Re: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[Kelly Sleeper]

Recheck size though.  My wife is 5' 10" and has a 61 Atlantis..  Rides great 
..looks great...but then they all do.

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[RoadieRyan]

Allan based on your flickr set there is absolutely zero that is
"second hand" about your AHH - a really beauty

On Sep 30, 8:58 am, Allan in Portland  wrote:
> Literally heard that last night in regards to my still-new-to-me AHH. Look,
> I know the tires are a little shabby, and the saddle doesn't fit the
> aesthetic (but it does fit me), but really, "that thing?"
>
> :-) OK, as it was coming from a young 20-something on a crabon looking
> Scattante bike with skinny tires and not much else, I figured it was a
> compliment.
>
> I should start a blog of unprompted comments Rivendells bring. So far, in
> less than 2 months I've had the usual "how old is it" on two different
> occasions. Some guy who looks like he doesn't ride bikes asked if I could go
> over 40 mph on it (was happy to show him the computer's max speed was
> currently recorded as 39.55). And not quite a comment, but the train rider
> in the seat next to me very conspicuously doing a web search on "A. Homer
> Hilsen" Not that I can blame any of them, (OK, I do hold it against the "how
> old is?" guys), it _is_ a great looking bike. In fact, as I often thing to
> myself, much better looking than it should considering it's built up almost
> entirely from second-hand accumulation.
>
> And finally, something (IMO) so cliched (no offense intended) I thought I'd
> _never_ do, before, well..., getting my own put together, the flickr photo
> set .
>
> Best regards & hats off to Grant P,
> -Allan

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Re: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[Tim McNamara]

Make it simple.

I'd say make the choice based on tires.  What are the widest tires you are 
likely to use?  If it's 2" tires, go with an Atlantis or a Hunq.  If it's 45 mm 
you can go with any of them except maybe the Hunq.

Then consider purpose.  If you're going to load up and go on tour, probably go 
with the Atlantis.  If you're riding across the Pamir Highway, maybe the Hunq 
although I've have no doubt about the Atlantis.  For loads up to (pulling a 
number out of thin air) 25 lbs then any of them will do fine.

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Re: [RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[René Sterental]

Forth utmost versatility, today I'd tell you to go for the Hinqapillar. You
cannot go wrong with the Atlantis either, but for higher bars, greater loads
and do it all, I just love my Hunqapillar a tiny bit more than I love my
Atlantis... Especially with Bullmoose bars...

I'm 5'11" and ride a 61 Atlantis/Homer and a 58 Hunqapillar.

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Oct 4, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

Leslie makes some excellent points. You also may want to talk to
Grant/Mark/John, et al, about weight limits for each bike. I know the
Atlantis is built a little stouter than the Sam, but I doubt you exceed the
limits of either. Other than that and Leslie's advice about tire preference,
I say, pick the one you like staring at the longest.

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[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[dougP]

Peter:

That's a pleasant problem to have:  which Rivendell?  I'll encourage
the Atlantis idea, since I have over 8 years & well over 30,000 miles
experience with mine.

I'm 5'11" with a PBH of 85 cm, and a seat height of 77 cm, and ride a
58 cm Atlantis with 10 cm stem.  It's the most comfortable bike I've
owned. There's a chart of sizes, PBHs & saddle heights.  According to
that, I could ride either a 58 or 61 but IMHO the 58 is perfect.  I
wouldn't want anything larger.  I know stand-over height is a bit
controversial but I like being able to plant both feet flat and not
worry about clearance.

The versatility was one of the main attractions.  When I bought mine
in '03, my intended primary use was loaded touring but since then it's
become the bike I ride 96% of the time.  It was a standard Riv build,
including 35 mm Pasela tires.  I've gradually gone to heavier duty and
wider tires and currently use 40 mm Schwalbe Marathon Supremes.  They
are noticably better in soft dirt than 35s and are decent on gravel.
I've fitted 50 mm and it has lots of clearance but for now the 40s are
fine for what I do (mostly paved).  50s would be better for riding a
lot of gravel, soft dirt, etc.

You can't go wrong with an Atlantis.heck, with any Rivendell!
Hope this helps, & let us know what you decide.

dougP

On Oct 4, 1:07 pm, Peter M  wrote:
> So finally have the funds and approval from the wife to go ahead and
> buy a new riv frameset only really cannot decide which one. I was
> leaning towards the Hillborne but now looking at the Atlantis I really
> like the finish and the fact I could go to huge tires if I wanted to
> one day. I currently live in NYC but am moving back upstate soon so
> need something I can take on gravel roads and not wipe out. IThe
> question is, is the Atlantis overkill? I know it is twice the price
> but that is not really a concern (well it is but I am willing to spend
> the extra if it means having the best bike out there).  I was also
> looking at the Hunqapillar but it seems to be more of MTB with a short
> headtube and I really want to get the bars nice and high for my
> Albatross bars. Also can someone who owns a 58cm Atlantis let me know
> how it fits? I am 5'11" with a PBH of 85.5, most definitely not a
> racer at 250lbs. The geometry at Riv is currently down so not sure how
> the 58 would fit but would really like to stick with 700c wheels since
> I already have an MB-2 with 26ers. Thanks for any words of wisdom out
> there on the group.

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[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[Joe Bernard]

Leslie makes some excellent points. You also may want to talk to 
Grant/Mark/John, et al, about weight limits for each bike. I know the 
Atlantis is built a little stouter than the Sam, but I doubt you exceed the 
limits of either. Other than that and Leslie's advice about tire preference, 
I say, pick the one you like staring at the longest. 

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[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[Leslie]

Okay, thinkin' a little more, scratch the Bombadil off your list if you're 
wanting to stick w/ 700c wheels, as it'd be getting a bit tall.  But for 
your PBH, the others would work.   I suppose, maybe the quote off the bottom 
of the models page might summarize it:

"*All of our bikes ride the same way. Nicely neutral. They all allow you to 
raise the handlebar good & high. The biggest difference is tire capacity and 
brake type. If you ride mostly huge tires, get a bike like the Hunqapillar 
or Atlantis or Bombadil, made for V-brakes or cantilevers. If you ride 32s 
to 40s almost always, get one of the others.*"

So, how big of a tire are you really wanting to ride?   The Hunq or the 
Atlantis if BIG, the Hilborne or the Hilsen if not quite huge but still 
comfy.  

FWIW

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[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide

[Leslie]

A) Cyclofiend's site makes a great backup when looking for sizes, etc.:  
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/index.html

B) The Hunq is a Riv, you'll be able to get the bars high w/ an Albatross, 
too, I'd expect;  no worries there, I don't think.

C) You can't go wrong w/ an Atlantis.

D) Either would be great.  I'd lean towards the Atlantis, I think, maybe, 
but, either will work, and well.

E) Actually, I think the Hilborne would work well too, and the Hilsen.  And 
a Bombadil.  


I know, not much help.   I just think, any of them will be fine, you should 
be able to set any of them up in a suitable fashion for your needs.   It's 
not like you're trying to put 50's on a Ram (something that wouldn't 
happen), but the Atlantis is *the* versatile bike, but the Hillborne and the 
Hilsen are both right there with it; the Hunq is more of a MTB, but it's not 
like suspension bike, it'd be fine for your use, as would the Bomba...   

You can't make a 'bad' choice here.   

Good luck...


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[RBW] So Torn, Cannot Decide

[Peter M]

So finally have the funds and approval from the wife to go ahead and
buy a new riv frameset only really cannot decide which one. I was
leaning towards the Hillborne but now looking at the Atlantis I really
like the finish and the fact I could go to huge tires if I wanted to
one day. I currently live in NYC but am moving back upstate soon so
need something I can take on gravel roads and not wipe out. IThe
question is, is the Atlantis overkill? I know it is twice the price
but that is not really a concern (well it is but I am willing to spend
the extra if it means having the best bike out there).  I was also
looking at the Hunqapillar but it seems to be more of MTB with a short
headtube and I really want to get the bars nice and high for my
Albatross bars. Also can someone who owns a 58cm Atlantis let me know
how it fits? I am 5'11" with a PBH of 85.5, most definitely not a
racer at 250lbs. The geometry at Riv is currently down so not sure how
the 58 would fit but would really like to stick with 700c wheels since
I already have an MB-2 with 26ers. Thanks for any words of wisdom out
there on the group.

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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Touring Video

[robert zeidler]

Pretty good, Jim.  Thanks!!

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Jim Cloud  wrote:
> I found this link - http://vimeo.com/27646423 - on a website today.
> For an interesting perspective on making a bike related video, I
> thought this was very good.  Changing the POV, some scripting, adding
> sound and editing really makes the video really worth watching.  In
> addition, the two riders seem to obviously be having a damn good time!
>
> Jim Cloud
> Tucson, AZ
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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Way Rebb]

My favorite comment was "..wow; look at those welds!".

-Ray

On Sep 30, 8:58 am, Allan in Portland  wrote:
> Literally heard that last night in regards to my still-new-to-me AHH. Look,
> I know the tires are a little shabby, and the saddle doesn't fit the
> aesthetic (but it does fit me), but really, "that thing?"
>
> :-) OK, as it was coming from a young 20-something on a crabon looking
> Scattante bike with skinny tires and not much else, I figured it was a
> compliment.
>
> I should start a blog of unprompted comments Rivendells bring. So far, in
> less than 2 months I've had the usual "how old is it" on two different
> occasions. Some guy who looks like he doesn't ride bikes asked if I could go
> over 40 mph on it (was happy to show him the computer's max speed was
> currently recorded as 39.55). And not quite a comment, but the train rider
> in the seat next to me very conspicuously doing a web search on "A. Homer
> Hilsen" Not that I can blame any of them, (OK, I do hold it against the "how
> old is?" guys), it _is_ a great looking bike. In fact, as I often thing to
> myself, much better looking than it should considering it's built up almost
> entirely from second-hand accumulation.
>
> And finally, something (IMO) so cliched (no offense intended) I thought I'd
> _never_ do, before, well..., getting my own put together, the flickr photo
> set .
>
> Best regards & hats off to Grant P,
> -Allan

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Re: [RBW] jaxed and craigslist

[cyclotourist]

This works ok:  http://www.searchtempest.com/

Nothing is as good as Jaxed, especially as they had the pictures which let
me screen quickly through all the junk postings.


On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:08 PM, andrew hill  wrote:

> Yeah that's good one.
>
> I use crazedlist to create a list of RSS feeds that I then import into a
> reader.
>
> Works a bit better than inside a webpage, and doesn't break b/c it just
> recreates CL's regular RSS for you.
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Bruce Baker wrote:
>
> Here is a search engine that I use now that there is no JaXed
> http://www.crazedlist.org/
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I found a '94 XO-3 through JaXed..a very hard to find model which I was
>> looking for to replace one that was stolen many years ago. No JaXed, no
>> Bstone. It sucks that Craigslist freaked out.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

[Ken Mattina]

Sorry to be confusing.  No I haven't ridden the compassessess.

I do have Hetres on my Lyon camping bike.  Also very nice tires.

Ken

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> Have you ridden the Compsses?
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ken Mattina  wrote:
> > I've ridden those 26 x 1.75 paselas on my Atlantis and they are fine
> tires.
> > I really have a hard time rationalizing spending the extra money on the
> > compass tires.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jan answered this question, perhaps on the iBoblist. They are a very
> >> different and much higher quality tire, per his response.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Tim McNamara 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:25 PM, johnb wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled
> >> >> the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons
> which
> >> >> are bombproof but...
> >> >
> >> > In the photos they look pretty much exactly like the 26" Panaracer
> >> > Pasela which can be had for about half the price.  If there is a
> difference-
> >> > and their may be- I don't know what it is.  Perhaps someone can
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

[PATRICK MOORE]

Have you ridden the Compsses?

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ken Mattina  wrote:
> I've ridden those 26 x 1.75 paselas on my Atlantis and they are fine tires.
> I really have a hard time rationalizing spending the extra money on the
> compass tires.
>
> Ken
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>>
>> Jan answered this question, perhaps on the iBoblist. They are a very
>> different and much higher quality tire, per his response.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>> >
>> > On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:25 PM, johnb wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled
>> >> the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons which
>> >> are bombproof but...
>> >
>> > In the photos they look pretty much exactly like the 26" Panaracer
>> > Pasela which can be had for about half the price.  If there is a 
>> > difference-
>> > and their may be- I don't know what it is.  Perhaps someone can enlighten
>> > me.
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

[Ken Mattina]

I've ridden those 26 x 1.75 paselas on my Atlantis and they are fine tires.
I really have a hard time rationalizing spending the extra money on the
compass tires.

Ken

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Jan answered this question, perhaps on the iBoblist. They are a very
> different and much higher quality tire, per his response.
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:25 PM, johnb wrote:
> >
> >> I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled
> >> the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons which
> >> are bombproof but...
> >
> > In the photos they look pretty much exactly like the 26" Panaracer Pasela
> which can be had for about half the price.  If there is a difference- and
> their may be- I don't know what it is.  Perhaps someone can enlighten me.
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Re: [RBW] jaxed and craigslist

[andrew hill]

Yeah that's good one.

I use crazedlist to create a list of RSS feeds that I then import into a 
reader.   

Works a bit better than inside a webpage, and doesn't break b/c it just 
recreates CL's regular RSS for you.


On Oct 4, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Bruce Baker wrote:

> Here is a search engine that I use now that there is no JaXed
> http://www.crazedlist.org/
> 
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> I found a '94 XO-3 through JaXed..a very hard to find model which I was 
> looking for to replace one that was stolen many years ago. No JaXed, no 
> Bstone. It sucks that Craigslist freaked out.
>  
>  
> 
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

[PATRICK MOORE]

Jan answered this question, perhaps on the iBoblist. They are a very
different and much higher quality tire, per his response.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:25 PM, johnb wrote:
>
>> I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled
>> the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons which
>> are bombproof but...
>
> In the photos they look pretty much exactly like the 26" Panaracer Pasela 
> which can be had for about half the price.  If there is a difference- and 
> their may be- I don't know what it is.  Perhaps someone can enlighten me.
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

[Tim McNamara]

On Oct 4, 2011, at 12:25 PM, johnb wrote:

> I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled
> the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons which
> are bombproof but...

In the photos they look pretty much exactly like the 26" Panaracer Pasela which 
can be had for about half the price.  If there is a difference- and their may 
be- I don't know what it is.  Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: jaxed and craigslist

[Bruce Baker]

Here is a search engine that I use now that there is no JaXed
http://www.crazedlist.org/

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> I found a '94 XO-3 through JaXed..a very hard to find model which I was
> looking for to replace one that was stolen many years ago. No JaXed, no
> Bstone. It sucks that Craigslist freaked out.
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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone Atlantis with Watanabe bags

[Michael Hechmer]

That's the kind of bike that beckons me to ride off into Brigadoon and never 
look back.  Wow, a veritable Mercedes Benz Grand Tourer.

Michael

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[RBW] Re: jaxed and craigslist

[Joe Bernard]

I found a '94 XO-3 through JaXed..a very hard to find model which I was 
looking for to replace one that was stolen many years ago. No JaXed, no 
Bstone. It sucks that Craigslist freaked out.
 
 

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[RBW] Craigslist find

[William]

I see a pair of wirebead 700x60 Big Apples for only $40.  Scotts Valley. 
 Pretty good buy if that's what you need.  No connection to the seller.  

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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone Atlantis with Watanabe bags

[Liesl]

Whoa, every detail is stunning!

But I had to giggle at one of the images of the beautiful red and
white panniers --at first glance, from the back, the white laces on
red canvas looks just like the top of a Converse All-star tennis shoe.

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[RBW] New site

[johnb]

Looks great! Different yes but in a good way. 

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[RBW] Re: Big Apples and Sams

[Philip Williamson]

I have a really big Crescent wrench I use as "calipers" to measure
tire width, then measure the jaws' opening with a mm ruler.

 Philip

On Oct 3, 8:42 am, jandrews_nyc  wrote:
> I don't ,
> I don't have the appropriate tool.
> I do have a small millimeter ruler that I can try to approximate.
> They are on Synergy rims.  I'll let you know what I come up with.

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[RBW] Bicycle Touring Video

[Jim Cloud]

I found this link - http://vimeo.com/27646423 - on a website today.
For an interesting perspective on making a bike related video, I
thought this was very good.  Changing the POV, some scripting, adding
sound and editing really makes the video really worth watching.  In
addition, the two riders seem to obviously be having a damn good time!

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

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[RBW] Has anyone tried the Compass 26" tires

[johnb]

I have a small (52) Atlantis and was wondering if anyone has pulled
the trigger on these and had thoughts. I have Schwalbe Marathons which
are bombproof but...

john

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Re: [RBW] Everything in my online shop is for sale

[Eric Norris]

I have one of Joe's wool caps, and it's great.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/5464653479/in/set-72157626102598194

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> All,
> 
> I thought I'd mention that everything in my shop is on sale and I am offering 
> free shipping on everything with the exception of the bikes. There are a few 
> L/XL Walz wool caps available and one or two S/M cotton Walz caps. Also 
> jerseys and wind vests for those not newfangled material-aversive.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Joe
> 
> Joe Bartoe
> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
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[RBW] FW: Everything in my online shop is for sale (now with the link-sorry!)

[Joe Bartoe]

http://shop.synapticcycles.com/

Joe Bartoe

Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
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Twitter: @synapticcycles

phone: 949-374-6079

From: jbar...@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:20:12 -0700








All,

I thought I'd mention that everything in my shop is on sale and I am offering 
free shipping on everything with the exception of the bikes. There are a few 
L/XL Walz wool caps available and one or two S/M cotton Walz caps. Also jerseys 
and wind vests for those not newfangled material-aversive.

Best,

Joe

Joe Bartoe

Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
email: j...@synapticcycles.com
website: www.synapticcycles.com
Twitter: @synapticcycles

phone: 949-374-6079 
  

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[RBW] Everything in my online shop is for sale

[Joe Bartoe]

All,

I thought I'd mention that everything in my shop is on sale and I am offering 
free shipping on everything with the exception of the bikes. There are a few 
L/XL Walz wool caps available and one or two S/M cotton Walz caps. Also jerseys 
and wind vests for those not newfangled material-aversive.

Best,

Joe

Joe Bartoe

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Twitter: @synapticcycles

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County (Michigan) Ride Report and Photos

[tdusky]

Good Job Admit!
Thanks for inviting me!

Tom Dusky (on the Atlantis)

On Oct 4, 8:25 am, Steven Frederick  wrote:
> The book is on sale (reduced shipping) if anyone wants to have a
> copy--just ordered mine!
>
> http://dirtroadwashtenaw.com/?tx=9M0645351V785505V&st=Completed&amt=2...
>
> Patrick, come in the summer, to gain a true appreciation for the term
> "humidity."  B-)
>
> Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Ken Freeman  wrote:
> > Patrick, you should come up here sometime, Michigan has great places to
> > ride, and Amit knows a lot more of them than I do!
>
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> >> Beautiful scenery and bikes. This is Michigan, right?
>
> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Amit Singh  wrote:
> >> > Dear Rivendell Owners Bunch;
>
> >> > Dad and I were supposed to go bicycle camping in Traverse City this
> >> > weekend,
> >> > but when I came down with an upper-respiratory infection we decided it
> >> > was
> >> > best if the trip was cancelled and I was given a chance to rest.  I
> >> > didn't
> >> > take that chance, and besides this terrible cough, runny/congested nose
> >> > and
> >> > a slight fever, overall, I felt pretty good!  So it was decided to ride
> >> > Friday and Sunday.  Both were spectacular rides, but Sunday's was
> >> > perhaps
> >> > most memorable.
>
> >> > I was tired up of roads and traffic and wanted to do something
> >> > different, so
> >> > I suggested trying out the Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County.  Dad is all
> >> > about
> >> > efficiency, so he wanted to take a more local route - something we could
> >> > get
> >> > to without driving.  He's also flexible and up for adventure, so he
> >> > agreed
> >> > to letting me drive us to the WashCo Dirt Road ride.  I also invited
> >> > Tom,
> >> > thinking that he'd enjoy the morning air and it would be good for him
> >> > and
> >> > dad to hang out.
>
> >> > We started packing and preparing around 8 am Sunday morning, each
> >> > wearing 4
> >> > or 5 layers of wool, and boy, did we need it.  The temperature was
> >> > around
> >> > 42* when we left, but warmed to about 47* by the time we arrived.
> >> > Thankfully, this was a short commute, maybe 25 minutes away from home,
> >> > but
> >> > because of searching for an enigmatic Kinko's to make copies (which we
> >> > never
> >> > found) of our map, it ended up taking us close to an hour.  Thankfully,
> >> > Tom
> >> > is an artist and works quickly, so we had a detailed working map to ride
> >> > by.  We parked the Land Rover at a local cafe and had our morning intake
> >> > of
> >> > fresh mushroom and spinach quiche.  It was delicious, just what we
> >> > needed to
> >> > get our engines going.
>
> >> > We picked a 40-ish mile route, made up almost entirely dirt roads and
> >> > started our journey in the town of Dixboro, riding almost immediately
> >> > into
> >> > densely wooded forests mixed with golden farm country and spattered with
> >> > crystal-clear lakes.  The foliage created beautiful and vibrant scenery
> >> > and
> >> > coupled with the crisp wind, we could feel and see the beginnings of
> >> > fall.
>
> >> > There's more to see and be a part of, including huge wild llamas,
> >> > catch-me-if-you-can deer and foraging for the most delicious apples I've
> >> > ever tasted.  There's also a Rivendell Atlantis, Saluki and an A. Homer
> >> > Hilsen.
>
> >> > Photos here.
>
> >> > I hope you enjoy :)
>
> >> > Amit
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Re: [RBW] Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County (Michigan) Ride Report and Photos

[Steven Frederick]

The book is on sale (reduced shipping) if anyone wants to have a
copy--just ordered mine!

http://dirtroadwashtenaw.com/?tx=9M0645351V785505V&st=Completed&amt=23.27&cc=USD&cm=&item_number=DRW2010

Patrick, come in the summer, to gain a true appreciation for the term
"humidity."  B-)

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Ken Freeman  wrote:
> Patrick, you should come up here sometime, Michigan has great places to
> ride, and Amit knows a lot more of them than I do!
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful scenery and bikes. This is Michigan, right?
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Amit Singh  wrote:
>> > Dear Rivendell Owners Bunch;
>> >
>> > Dad and I were supposed to go bicycle camping in Traverse City this
>> > weekend,
>> > but when I came down with an upper-respiratory infection we decided it
>> > was
>> > best if the trip was cancelled and I was given a chance to rest.  I
>> > didn't
>> > take that chance, and besides this terrible cough, runny/congested nose
>> > and
>> > a slight fever, overall, I felt pretty good!  So it was decided to ride
>> > Friday and Sunday.  Both were spectacular rides, but Sunday's was
>> > perhaps
>> > most memorable.
>> >
>> > I was tired up of roads and traffic and wanted to do something
>> > different, so
>> > I suggested trying out the Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County.  Dad is all
>> > about
>> > efficiency, so he wanted to take a more local route - something we could
>> > get
>> > to without driving.  He's also flexible and up for adventure, so he
>> > agreed
>> > to letting me drive us to the WashCo Dirt Road ride.  I also invited
>> > Tom,
>> > thinking that he'd enjoy the morning air and it would be good for him
>> > and
>> > dad to hang out.
>> >
>> > We started packing and preparing around 8 am Sunday morning, each
>> > wearing 4
>> > or 5 layers of wool, and boy, did we need it.  The temperature was
>> > around
>> > 42* when we left, but warmed to about 47* by the time we arrived.
>> > Thankfully, this was a short commute, maybe 25 minutes away from home,
>> > but
>> > because of searching for an enigmatic Kinko's to make copies (which we
>> > never
>> > found) of our map, it ended up taking us close to an hour.  Thankfully,
>> > Tom
>> > is an artist and works quickly, so we had a detailed working map to ride
>> > by.  We parked the Land Rover at a local cafe and had our morning intake
>> > of
>> > fresh mushroom and spinach quiche.  It was delicious, just what we
>> > needed to
>> > get our engines going.
>> >
>> > We picked a 40-ish mile route, made up almost entirely dirt roads and
>> > started our journey in the town of Dixboro, riding almost immediately
>> > into
>> > densely wooded forests mixed with golden farm country and spattered with
>> > crystal-clear lakes.  The foliage created beautiful and vibrant scenery
>> > and
>> > coupled with the crisp wind, we could feel and see the beginnings of
>> > fall.
>> >
>> > There's more to see and be a part of, including huge wild llamas,
>> > catch-me-if-you-can deer and foraging for the most delicious apples I've
>> > ever tasted.  There's also a Rivendell Atlantis, Saluki and an A. Homer
>> > Hilsen.
>> >
>> > Photos here.
>> >
>> > I hope you enjoy :)
>> >
>> > Amit
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Re: [RBW] Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County (Michigan) Ride Report and Photos

[Ken Freeman]

Patrick, you should come up here sometime, Michigan has great places to
ride, and Amit knows a lot more of them than I do!

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Beautiful scenery and bikes. This is Michigan, right?
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Amit Singh  wrote:
> > Dear Rivendell Owners Bunch;
> >
> > Dad and I were supposed to go bicycle camping in Traverse City this
> weekend,
> > but when I came down with an upper-respiratory infection we decided it
> was
> > best if the trip was cancelled and I was given a chance to rest.  I
> didn't
> > take that chance, and besides this terrible cough, runny/congested nose
> and
> > a slight fever, overall, I felt pretty good!  So it was decided to ride
> > Friday and Sunday.  Both were spectacular rides, but Sunday's was perhaps
> > most memorable.
> >
> > I was tired up of roads and traffic and wanted to do something different,
> so
> > I suggested trying out the Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County.  Dad is all
> about
> > efficiency, so he wanted to take a more local route - something we could
> get
> > to without driving.  He's also flexible and up for adventure, so he
> agreed
> > to letting me drive us to the WashCo Dirt Road ride.  I also invited Tom,
> > thinking that he'd enjoy the morning air and it would be good for him and
> > dad to hang out.
> >
> > We started packing and preparing around 8 am Sunday morning, each wearing
> 4
> > or 5 layers of wool, and boy, did we need it.  The temperature was around
> > 42* when we left, but warmed to about 47* by the time we arrived.
> > Thankfully, this was a short commute, maybe 25 minutes away from home,
> but
> > because of searching for an enigmatic Kinko's to make copies (which we
> never
> > found) of our map, it ended up taking us close to an hour.  Thankfully,
> Tom
> > is an artist and works quickly, so we had a detailed working map to ride
> > by.  We parked the Land Rover at a local cafe and had our morning intake
> of
> > fresh mushroom and spinach quiche.  It was delicious, just what we needed
> to
> > get our engines going.
> >
> > We picked a 40-ish mile route, made up almost entirely dirt roads and
> > started our journey in the town of Dixboro, riding almost immediately
> into
> > densely wooded forests mixed with golden farm country and spattered with
> > crystal-clear lakes.  The foliage created beautiful and vibrant scenery
> and
> > coupled with the crisp wind, we could feel and see the beginnings of
> fall.
> >
> > There's more to see and be a part of, including huge wild llamas,
> > catch-me-if-you-can deer and foraging for the most delicious apples I've
> > ever tasted.  There's also a Rivendell Atlantis, Saluki and an A. Homer
> > Hilsen.
> >
> > Photos here.
> >
> > I hope you enjoy :)
> >
> > Amit
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[RBW] Re: Dirt Roads of Washtenaw County (Michigan) Ride Report and Photos

[stevef]

Nice!  I need to get that map book and do some of them rides

Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Worn out Chainrings?

[Kerry Kunsman]

Rob,

Actually, from your picture, your rings don't appear that worn.  The 
different heights of the teeth is a function of the indexed shifting, 
not wear.  A worn ring will exhibit an elongated valley area, usually 
also with a sloped surface on the tension side of the ring.  Your 
valleys still appear to have a nice "U" shape.


If you have some concerns about wear, I'd start with the chain.  12 
links should measure exactly 12".  As the chain wears it will 
"stretch" (get longer).  When the 12 links measure 12 1/16" it's time 
to replace the chain.  If the chain has "stretched" more than that it 
may have damaged your chainrings and/or cassette.


If your chain is worn, but not too badly, replace it, then check for 
skipping.  If there is no skipping with the new chain you are 
probably in good shape.  If you have skipping, try to narrow down 
under what conditions it skips.  If it only skips while in your 
middle ring, then your middle ring is worn.  If it only skips while 
on, say your 14 tooth cog in the rear, then it's time for a new cassette.


Sheldon Brown has a good article on drivetrain wear at 
.


Kerry Kunsman
San Diego, CA


At 08:29 PM 10/3/2011, charlie wrote:

I'd get some stainless steel rings.that is what I'm doing. Of
course a new chain and cassette too..

On Oct 2, 9:34 pm, rob markwardt  wrote:
> Greetings,
>   I went for a wonderful long, wet, cold ride up to Snoqualmie summit
> yesterday (it's definitely fall in the PNW).  Cleaning up a very dirty

> Bleriot today I noticed this one tooth on my middle ring giving me the
> finger.  Pretty certain it means replace me idiot but wanted to get a
> second opinion.  What about the other rings?
>
> Bike...http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6202709226
>
> Very dirty ringshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/6206511186

>
> Thanks,
> Rob Markwardt
> Seattle, WA

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