Re: [RBW] Re: A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems

2011-12-18 Thread René Sterental
Thanks Kelly,

I too have reconsidered the info on that website after re-reading it
carefully. I can't feel anything when riding my SON28 wheel on the
Atlantis, but just for the sake of it will try riding a regular front wheel
to see if I can tell them apart. Today I picked up a new SON28 Dyad 36
front wheel for the Hunqapillar and will go with another Edelux on it as
well. The new SON28 hub is so nice to look at... seems to be asking to be
matched to a shiny rear hub as well... Will need to sell some stuff...

Thanks again for the feedback,

René


 On Dec 15, 10:49 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
  @Rene  Ok so I wasn't real impressed with that site.  First I have three
 SON28's and through I do feel it at times it's on high speed downhills.
  Also to me the drag is less at lower speeds and the author indicated that
 higher speeds the hub was had less drag.


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[RBW] Betty Fever...

2011-12-18 Thread René Sterental
Tonight I got Betty fever and decided to pay her some attention. My
daughters are home from Berkeley for a week, before going to meet with
their grand-parents and I'm going to see if they'll come on a ride with me
and give the Betty a try.

Poor Betty had been hanging in a corner with a flat front tire and the
Nitto Touring (trekking) bars I was experimenting with. Decided to bring
her down, fix the flat and reconsider the bars. All of a sudden, I found
myself swapping the black Marathon tires for a pair of red Hetres I had
ordered a long time ago and was thinking of returning but never had, to
dress her up a bit. They look wonderful on the bike and with thus inspired,
I again found myself putting the 150 Bullmoose bars and giving them a try
in my backyard. The result was very surprising. Still haven't taken it out
on the street, but I found myself fitting on the bike on an extremely
comfortable upright position with the bar at its maximum height. Riding on
the backyard/patio is not very realistic, so tomorrow morning I'm going to
give her a try. If the ride is as nice as I'm envisioning, I may not even
allow my daughters to ride her! And... I'm testing those bars on the
Atlantis as well.

It also seems that the 47mm Honjo fenders I had never returned will
actually fit on the Betty with the Hetres... While they never seemed they
would fit, tonight was too much to resist and I took them out of their bags
to actually test fit them around the Silver brakes. Will do some more
checking tomorrow, but it does seem they'll fit.

Photos will be posted tomorrow during the test ride...

René

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[RBW] For reference, the new Sackville darker grid grey color . . .

2011-12-18 Thread Forrest
 . . . complements titanium nicely.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/6531190595/in/photostream

Most components/accessories on this Salsa La Cruz Ti came from RBW (Jim 
Thill built the wheels, though), which I think shows how two different 
aesthetic styles (and functional types) can blend. That is, if you do think 
they blend at all. Apart from aesthetics, the blend sure works well and 
feels good while I'm riding. Just wanted to show the strong influence of 
RBW even on my non-Riv bike.

-- Forrest (Iowa City)

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Re: [RBW] For reference, the new Sackville darker grid grey color . . .

2011-12-18 Thread Ray Shine
Beautiful build. Dressed as it is, one can hardly tell it from a Riv frame .





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Subject: [RBW] For reference, the new Sackville darker grid grey color . . .

 . . . complements titanium nicely.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10076072@N03/6531190595/in/photostream


Most components/accessories on this Salsa La Cruz Ti came from RBW (Jim Thill 
built the wheels, though), which I think shows how two different aesthetic 
styles (and functional types) can blend. That is, if you do think they blend at 
all. Apart from aesthetics, the blend sure works well and feels good while I'm 
riding. Just wanted to show the strong influence of RBW even on my non-Riv bike.

-- Forrest (Iowa City)

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[RBW] Re: 3 pictures of my beautiful Redwood

2011-12-18 Thread newenglandbike
NICE!Couple questions: What color is that-it looks like the 
original Redwood color but I am not sure. Also, what size tires are 
those?Bike looks great with them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3 pictures of my beautiful Redwood

2011-12-18 Thread Derek Simmons
Thanks. The color is NOT the original,which was a much lighter
greensort of like the color of the New Beetle a couple of years back.
Now the color I picked is Imron #44420 (Med. Olive metallic). I had to
choose it from a swatch and had a great deal of trepidation until the
finished bike finally arrived. I think it looks fantastic---especially set
off by the traditional Rivendell cream headtube and detailing.
The tires are Schwalbe Marathon Supremes. My first ride on it yesterday was
almost as much fun as the first time I rode without my Dad running along
side.

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 NICE!Couple questions: What color is that-it looks like the
 original Redwood color but I am not sure. Also, what size tires are
 those?Bike looks great with them.

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[RBW] Re: OK -

2011-12-18 Thread Philip Williamson
It was imaginary.

On Dec 17, 8:05 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dang, missed it all, apparently

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[RBW] Tis The Season - Wretched Excess

2011-12-18 Thread jimD
During the dark times of the year I find myself adding to the lighting on my 
Saluki to make myself more visible on my commute.

Plus it can be entertaining to have the bike masquerading as some sort of alien 
conveyance.

I'm fond of passive and active lighting. Reflective gear is excellent for 
taking advantage of car lighting to help
highlight the bike. Active lights are good for getting recognized and honored 
by cars exiting driveways, cars on 
intersecting roads, cars entering or exiting street side parking, along with 
ninja pedestrians, joggers, cyclists, and dogs.

The Saluki is my choice for 'dark and stormy night' rides. Over the years, 
during winter, I've gradually added to the bike's lighting arsenal.

There's a short video of this seasonably festive and pretty darn alien photon 
distributor in action on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/6532264723/in/photostream

JimD
Purveyor of rolling hallucinations

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[RBW] Re: Tis The Season - Wretched Excess

2011-12-18 Thread islaysteve
Jim, I'm sending this to my daughter, she's a bike commuter and visibility 
fan.  She'll want some of those.  Thanks, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tis The Season - Wretched Excess

2011-12-18 Thread Jim Mather
That is awesome! Would you mind listing the parts?

jim m
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Re: [RBW] Re: These cranks stink so good!

2011-12-18 Thread Ryan Ray
How can it make a good double? By leaving the outer ring position empty and 
using single speed bolts?

- Ryan

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[RBW] A few parts FS

2011-12-18 Thread b hamon
A few items to clear out. prices include shipping in conus.
1. Deore LX rear derailleur, 7-speed, long cage, Model RD-M550. Good used 
condition with some scuffing, here's a photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/6532937975/
$20.00
2. Suntour XC Sport 7000 front derailleur for touring triple. Good condition. 
$12.00
3. Ergon handlebar grips series WP-1. Good for small-to-medium hands. $20.00
If you want all three items you can have them together for $45.00 
shipped.Please reply offlist. 
Music - http://beth-hamon.blogspot.com/

Bicycles - http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] Half-Mittens Gone?

2011-12-18 Thread Eric Norris
Are the new half-mittens gone already? Can't find them on the web site.

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[RBW] Re: Half-Mittens Gone?

2011-12-18 Thread Leslie
Yup, Grant's most recent note said this batch was gone;  would have more on 
the way

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[RBW] Re: Half-Mittens Gone?

2011-12-18 Thread Leslie
His quote:  SOLD OUT OF HALFMITTS. Yay and dang. Scrambling to get more 
soon.

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[RBW] Re: Betty Fever...

2011-12-18 Thread René
Here are some photos from today's test ride: http://tinyurl.com/7fr7pda.

Some initial notes:
- The 150 Bullmoose bars feel great and I believe are the most comfortable 
bars I've tried on the Betty. They are at maximum height and I could 
probably have them a bit higher still, but this was an extremely nice and 
comfortable setup to ride the Betty. I like them so much I'm going to try 
them on the Atlantis as well, where I can't yet get a perfect set of bars 
for me.
- These thick Brooks grips, that I had originally tried on the Hunqapillar 
(that's why they're black) are a bit too thick, but did feel much better on 
the Betty than they did on the Hunqapillar. They are most comfortable to 
ride without gloves, so if they stay, they are likely going to be ridden as 
such. Might try some better matching thinner leather grips.
- The Hetres ride very nice, but it seems to me so did the original 
Marathon tires. I'm going to be adding the 47mm Honjo fenders to finish 
dressing her up and making her truly versatile now that the rains are on 
their way.
- My butt can't really get used to the Brooks saddles; might try a B67 I 
have lying around, but will try to get all my Brooks saddles organized and 
offered for sale so I can get another Berthoud touring saddle for the Betty.
- Got my oldest daughter to test ride it in front of the house; she doesn't 
like the saddle and said she felt a bit stretched out but looked great. All 
the women in my house love how the Betty looks now, but I'll have to get 
them to ride it more.

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tis The Season - Wretched Excess

2011-12-18 Thread jimD

I'll get a listing together later today.

Maybe I can come up with a 'marked up' Flickr pic.

-JimD

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 That is awesome! Would you mind listing the parts?
 
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[RBW] All Racing - All The Time

2011-12-18 Thread jimD
and now for something completely different.
This video gives a clear depiction of the true essence of cycling.

(warning - not for folks who are easily offended)


 http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12674956/cycling-explained
 

Not sure if BikeSnob was consulted in this effort but after viewing this
I now understand everything.

-JimD

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Re: [RBW] All Racing - All The Time

2011-12-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That is very funny! -- thanks for posting this! The robot carriage and
voice make it all the more amusing.

Best line: I mean this in the nicest way: You are **g nuts.

But! As Aristotle and everyone else says -- to paraphrase thru the mouth of
Peter Wimsey: The Golden Mean keeps you from being a Golden Ass. You *can*
enjoy pushing yourself; I particularly enjoy climbing, even more
particularly on a fixed gear. I just do it in moderation.

And I don't see that any normal person would be offended at this!

Patrick otherwise, I'd rather drive a stake through my skull Moore

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 and now for something completely different.
 This video gives a clear depiction of the true essence of cycling.

 (warning - not for folks who are easily offended)


 http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12674956/cycling-explained



 Not sure if BikeSnob was consulted in this effort but after viewing this
 I now understand everything.

 -JimD

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Re: [RBW] All Racing - All The Time

2011-12-18 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Not only funny but accurate.

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Re: [RBW] Tis The Season - Wretched Excess

2011-12-18 Thread jimD
Lights
Front Wheel - Three Cateye Orbit Spoke Lights  available on Amazon
Back Wheel - N-Vision Wheel Light  available from 
http://www.bicyclenightlight.com (not sure how this will hold up
in rain.)
Tail Light/s - Dinotte 140R (only ever run it on low) two old Planet 
Bike blinkys
Head Light/s - Light and Motion Vega  - Older Princeton Tec fixed light 
with dedicated battery
On Helmet  -  Planet Bike Superflash Turbo (back) - headlight Plane 
Bike Blaze 2W

The wheel lights are fun but the Dinotte taillight and the lights on the helmet 
are what are for me,  the important aspects of this setup.

Though not  depicted well in the video, having a bright, direct-able, headlight 
on my helmet has been great for getting the attention of intersecting 
vehicles/creatures. 

A light I'm trying on another bike is a: '14 led bicycle wheel spoke light 
reflector set blue' available on Amazon.
At $8.00 it has amazing functionality. The hardware is sorta funky, not sure 
how it will hold up, but it produces a 
veritable light show.

Finally maybe for next winter there's this:
http://www.revolights.com/

JimD 

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 That is awesome! Would you mind listing the parts?
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Fever...

2011-12-18 Thread René Sterental
Went for a third longer ride this afternoon, home to downtown Palo Alto to
meet my wife and daughters who were doing some shopping, and then when I
left them, took the Betty on a ride around Stanford. I have to say that the
current configuration is probably the most comfortable of all my bikes,
rivaling that of the Hunqapillar which also happens to be a 58... I think
I'll have to have some more extended swapping between the 150/200 Bullmoose
bars on the Hunqa...

The ride was fabulous, the Betty feels perfect, nimble, agile and very
steady. Here are some photos: *http://tinyurl.com/6vjtl8m*
*
*
The fenders are definitely going to be added and I'm testing the Bullmoose
bars on the Atlantis. Have done some dry runs with the 150 Bullmoose bars
on it with no brakes or grips and the fit feels surprisingly nice. It's
more of a hassle to re-cable the breaks, but I think I'm going to do it.

Happy riding!

René

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Re: [RBW] Re: Half-Mittens Gone?

2011-12-18 Thread Eric Norris
Thanks, all.  I'll have to wait 'til they're back in stock. Could have used a 
pair this morning.

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 His quote:  SOLD OUT OF HALFMITTS. Yay and dang. Scrambling to get more 
 soon.
 
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[RBW] parts fs update

2011-12-18 Thread b hamon
A few items to clear out. prices include shipping in conus.
1. Deore LX rear derailleur, 7-speed, long cage, Model RD-M550. Good used 
condition with some scuffing, here's a 
photo:http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/6532937975/
$20.00
2. Suntour XC Sport 7000 front derailleur SOLD
3. Ergon handlebar grips SOLD
Music - http://beth-hamon.blogspot.com/

Bicycles - http://bikelovejones1.blogspot.com/

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[RBW] parts fs - all gone now

2011-12-18 Thread b hamon
Everything is sold, thanks for your interest.

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Re: [RBW] Half-Mittens Gone?

2011-12-18 Thread Peter Morgano
On the latest blug grant mentions they are sold out... guess the weren't so
goofy after all.
On Dec 18, 2011 3:08 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 Are the new half-mittens gone already? Can't find them on the web site.

 --Eric
 campyonly...@me.com
 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org

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[RBW] 80's Lotus

2011-12-18 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Saw this bike on eBay.. Anyone know about these... 

Fender clearence 

Anything?

K

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[RBW] Re: A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems

2011-12-18 Thread Anthony King
I'm almost certain the author of that site didn't have his SON28
skewer tightened properly. In this case you'll feel excessive
vibration. If he built the wheel he was testing this should have been
obvious, since the SON28 (like all dynohubs) must be clamped tightly
in the truing stand to spin smoothly. When not clamped adequately the
SON hub are more notchy than inadequately tightened Shimano dynes. But
secured properly the SON spins more smoothly.

Discloser: I sell SON and Shimano dynohubs, as well as others.

On Dec 18, 3:52 am, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Kelly,

 I too have reconsidered the info on that website after re-reading it
 carefully. I can't feel anything when riding my SON28 wheel on the

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar: crotch-worried

2011-12-18 Thread Marc Irwin
I would follow their recommendations.  I would be riding a larger if
my legs would grow.  I've been riding a 54 all year but I have an
85pbh(after raising my voice an octave).That's complicated by the fact
that I'm 6' tall.  I used drops and a regular stem (rather than the
recommended dirt drop) to compensate.  Take a look

http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2011/10/re-review-hunq.html?m=0

You'd have your seat even higher.  I would definitely have gone bigger
if I could, but just couldn't stretch my legs.
All that being said, it's by far the most comfortable bike I've ever
ridden.  I love my Hunq, order now before she changes her mind!

Marc

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[RBW] Re: A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems

2011-12-18 Thread Matthew J
Same here.  Have a SONs twice.  Current bike never vibrates that I
notice.  Earlier bike was the smoothest rider I ever owned (sadly
destroyed while parked on a sidewalk by an out of control truck).

On Dec 18, 2:52 am, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Kelly,

 I too have reconsidered the info on that website after re-reading it
 carefully. I can't feel anything when riding my SON28 wheel on the
 Atlantis, but just for the sake of it will try riding a regular front wheel
 to see if I can tell them apart. Today I picked up a new SON28 Dyad 36
 front wheel for the Hunqapillar and will go with another Edelux on it as
 well. The new SON28 hub is so nice to look at... seems to be asking to be
 matched to a shiny rear hub as well... Will need to sell some stuff...

 Thanks again for the feedback,

 René







  On Dec 15, 10:49 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:
   @Rene  Ok so I wasn't real impressed with that site.  First I have three
  SON28's and through I do feel it at times it's on high speed downhills.
   Also to me the drag is less at lower speeds and the author indicated that
  higher speeds the hub was had less drag.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar: crotch-worried

2011-12-18 Thread cbone97
Thanks again -what a helpful group. I should have mentioned in my
original post that I intend to go with Albatross bars.  This sounds
like another vote for the 58 as long as I'm not using drop bars; I
don't think there have been any standover-related contraindications so
far.  Love those pics of your bike in the snow, btw.

On Dec 18, 1:43 am, Ian Dickson iandicks...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm 5'11 and also have an 87 PBH, and Rich strongly recommended that I get
 the 54. I love it, though I'm pretty sure I could have set up a 58 so I'd
 love that, too. Do you know what kind of bars you plan to use? If you want
 to use Albatross bars or something like that, I'd go for the 58. With drop
 bars, maybe lean towards the 54. Here are some pictures of my bike, so you
 can get an idea of what your saddle and bar height might look like on a 54:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/54529677@N07/sets/72157624965806797/

 There are pictures there of the bike with noodles and with mustache bars.
 I've settled on the noodles with a 10cm dirt drop stem.

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Re: [RBW] Re: A great link to the best overview I've seen on lighting systems

2011-12-18 Thread Michael Richters
Interesting info  reviews, but still quite subjective.  Regarding the
dynohub vibrations, it's important to keep in mind that he's not just
comparing different hubs in isolation.  The hub interacts with the
rest of the wheel and the fork (and possibly even the rest of the
frame).  Anecdotes like this do not constitute anything like
scientific data, and regardless of claims of objectivity, the author's
observations are just as subjective as anyone else's.  It might be
possible for an individual to compare different wheels (not just the
hubs) on a given bicycle, as long as precautions were taken to ensure
that he couldn't identify them.  Even then, to make a really fair
comparison, you'd have to build several wheels on each hub to control
for variations in rims, et cetera.  And even that wouldn't tell you
how much vibration *your* hub will cause, and under what conditions,
on *your* bike.  It's a very hard problem, but a single anecdotal
comparison is not very useful for determining which hub will cause the
most vibration on a given bicycle.

  --MR

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[RBW] Some QB - LL frame differences

2011-12-18 Thread Andrew Johnson
I got in a nice shopping ride on the LongLow this morning, after riding
only the QuickBeam for a few weeks. Apart from the freaky feeling when I
stopped pedaling and coasted along, the main difference I noticed was more
relaxed handling, maybe less quick steering is the way to describe it.
Anyway, it prompted me to take some side-by-side measurements. Here they
are, if anyone is interested (all in cm)

Measurement, LL, QB
Head Tube, 23.7, 24.7
Top Tube, 62.1, 62.3 (center of HT to center of ST)
Seat Tube, 65.0, 66.0 (BB to top of TT)
BB Height, 27.1, 28.0 (above ground, similar tires on 700c rims)
Chainline, 4.3, 4.5 (middle ring, Ritchey Logic on LL, Sugino XD2 on QB)
Wheelbase, 108.5, 108.5 (both are adjustable, happen to be same)
Chainstay, 45.4, 44.5 (BB to axle)
Seatstay, 58.9, 60.0 (axle to top of TT)
Seat Height, 84.6, 86 (BB to top of saddle)
Seat, 19.5, 20.0 (top of T to top of Saddle)
Front Reach, 60.0, 56.5 (center of clamp to front of saddle)
Rear Reach, 88.5, 85 (center of clamp to rear of saddle)
Pedal Height, 9.2, 10.0 (spindle center above ground)
Bar Height, 104.3, 113.5 (clamp center above ground)
Cranks, 175, 175
Q-factor, 150, 160

Funny thing, they both feel right even though the LL has its bars further
forward and lower than the QB. Same moustache bars on both, with an old
Nitto Pearl on the LL and a non-name dirt drop on the QB. Some obvious
differences, the frame height is a clean 1 cm largwer on the QB, and the
chainstays are longer on the LL. TopTube is only 2 mm longer on the QB.I
could probably stand to adjust my stem and seat on the LongLow, they have
not been changed in several years and maybe would feel better after
adjustment. And I'm going to try the Qb again with a lower and longer stem,
to see if duplicating the LL seat reach  is useful. But they're different
bikes, for very different purposes.

The other obvious difference between them is that the LL was custom built
by Joe Stark to Grant's specs, based on all my measurements, back in 1998.
Not that I've gotten any taller, or grown longer arms, but RBW's design
criteria may have changed between the custom-frame LongLow era, and the QB
introduction.

And yes, I have hit pedals to ground on the LongLow, but not yet on the
QuickBeam. The higher BB is working out fine.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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