[RBW] Re: GAH! It was the ______?!?
The worst shifting I have ever experienced was with a brand new SRAM 9 spd cassette and chain. First I swapped the cassette for a good but used Ultegra and got only a marginal improvement. Then I replaced the chain with a wipperman conex and kazam, great shifting. Later I tried the new chain with the original SRAM cassette and found it worked OK. I would never again use either an SRAM or a Shimano chain. michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-Zg2szR3tmMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?
Thank you, Jan and Ryan! I will try the Deluxe method on my next fender installation. - David G, Madison WI On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: On Dec 23, 10:15 am, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't fully understand how the Deluxe Honjo hardware works. Does it replace the standard R-clips to attach the stays to the dropouts? http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-389/Honjo-Hardware-Deluxe-A...http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/honjo-r-cl. .. The Deluxe hardware is a copy of the hardware on 1980s Rene Herse bikes. It replaces the eyebolts on the (unthreaded) dropout eyelets, where the stays attach to the frame. Instead of clamping the stay between eyebolt and cup, the stay is held in the eyebolt with a set screw. You can use the Deluxe hardware with threaded eyelets: You put a little rubber (or leather) washer underneath the head of the eyebolt, screw it in as far as you can, then back off a little until the hole lines up with the stay. Insert the stay and tighten the set screw. I did that on my new Herse, which did not have room for a nut on the other side of the eyebolt. Traditional French bikes did not use R clips. (Since the stay is off- center with the clip, you have a greater tendency to loosen. In practice, however, that rarely happens.) Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?
On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:15, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the detailed reply, Ryan. I don't fully understand how the Deluxe Honjo hardware works. Does it replace the standard R-clips to attach the stays to the dropouts? http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-389/Honjo-Hardware-Deluxe-Allen/Detail http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/honjo-r-clips-4mm-single-771.html Or do you use it to attach the fenders to the stays? Do you have a photo of the deluxe hardware in use on a bike? Here you go! http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556426@N06/5391774863/in/photostream I already have a set of VO 650Bx58mm fluted fenders, and yesterday I ordered a set of Honjo 650Bx50mm hammered fenders from VO (taking advantage of their sale and free shipping), so I will have at least two options for my future bike, which I think I am going to mostly use with 38mm Lierre or Pari-Moto tires. The VO Zepellin fenders do look cool, though. Are you using two darumas per stay, and covering the pre-drilled hole with aluminum tape? That's exactly what I did :-) The latest batch of Zeppelins now use two bolts per stay. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 2011 Rebates, Membership
My understanding is that accumulated 2011 rebates will be awarded as a lump sum in early 2012 and that the new next day rebate policy goes into effect after the new year. There's a lot of assumption on my part though. As a mostly unrelevant but sort of vaguely related side note... gotta love those procrastinating family members who live across the country. I got an early Xmas present last night from just such a relative. It was an email Riv gift certificate the gift that keeps on giving. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g1tAd29DGhAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fishy EBay posting
I'd say it was a mistake on the sellers part, with no harm meant. The Pro's Closet is a very respected eBay seller and I'm sure that they would have changed the ad if they were made aware. They are great sellers and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase anything from them. Either way, the buyer got a great deal on a good fork. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: http://bit.ly/sMRKYI Road fork? Cantis? 1 1/8? Curious. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z9Y__PKBgYoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Fishy EBay posting
I'm about 88% sure that's the Rawland dSogn fork. Which would make it a 650b fork. Hopefully the buyer knew that. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Henry Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 12:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Fishy EBay posting I'd say it was a mistake on the sellers part, with no harm meant. The Pro's Closet is a very respected eBay seller and I'm sure that they would have changed the ad if they were made aware. They are great sellers and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase anything from them. Either way, the buyer got a great deal on a good fork. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.commailto:justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: http://bit.ly/sMRKYI Road fork? Cantis? 1 1/8? Curious. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z9Y__PKBgYoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Fishy EBay posting
Oops. I mean cSogn. Dar. From: John Speare Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 9:31 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [RBW] Fishy EBay posting I'm about 88% sure that's the Rawland dSogn fork. Which would make it a 650b fork. Hopefully the buyer knew that. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com]mailto:[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Henry Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 12:09 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Fishy EBay posting I'd say it was a mistake on the sellers part, with no harm meant. The Pro's Closet is a very respected eBay seller and I'm sure that they would have changed the ad if they were made aware. They are great sellers and I wouldn't hesitate to purchase anything from them. Either way, the buyer got a great deal on a good fork. Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.commailto:justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: http://bit.ly/sMRKYI Road fork? Cantis? 1 1/8? Curious. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z9Y__PKBgYoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?
on 12/21/11 5:48 PM, William Pustow at bpus...@aol.com wrote: Jesus, Sleeper, relax. Find another list or stop drinking. Bill Louisville. Ky Hey there Bill - Because work demands have me only periodically on the list right now, I have to apologize that I didn't see and respond to this when you made the post. But, could you please moderate your tone. Personal comments such as this are not appropriate to this list. If you meant this to go directly to the poster, rather than to the list at large, or if you guys have a back-channel relationship where this tone is fine, that's one thing, but it just shouldn't go to the list at large. Thanks - Jim / List admin -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mannybike
Grant, Fantastic and very sane. And how often have you been accused of the latter? Best wishes and Merry Christmas, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/R2k7MDxtNi4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What does a light set of metal fenders actually weigh?
Depending on the alloy stainless teel work hardens pretty easily and forming the fender in a press would work harden it. Phil Brown On Dec 22, 6:31 am, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: On Dec 21, 5:17 pm, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I also went to Vol 2 #1 and saw no actual testing of the Berthoud steel fender in that article under metal fenders. Back then, the Berthoud fenders were sold under the Cagnion brand, and you could only get them in France. We simply labeled them French stainless steel. They are the same fenders. We have had several test bikes with cracked Berthoud fenders, but on the other hand, I know riders who have ridden for years with Berthoud fenders with no problems. It may be an installation issue (see below), or occur during shipping, if the rear fender is pushed forward in the box. The longest-lasting fenders appear to be the aluminum fenders. I have seen bikes with 100,000+ miles on the same set of fenders. The Honjo fenders on my Alex Singer now have lasted for 6 years and at least 40,000 miles. (I only replaced the 1973 originals because I wanted to use wider tires, not because they were failing.) With Honjo fenders (and probably Berthoud), it is crucial that they are shaped as desired before installation. Pulling the fenders into position with the stays puts constant stresses on the fenders and will lead to premature failure. (The same probably applies to plastic fenders, but you cannot reshape them easily, which may be why they only last a few years.) Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterlyhttp://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog athttp://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv ATB photos
Marty's poster had a bad photo of my ATB, so I decided it was time to do a better set. Results are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7627416@N06/sets/72157628554831513/ Not exactly a white christmas in southeast Wisconsin this year. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv ATB photos
Beautiful. What color is that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BjUQOKVGSUsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Growing my moustache (bars)
I miss the bar-ends on my Quickbeam, where I'm used to gripping and resting my hands on the other bikes. So I made some plugs out of aluminum, to give back the extra length that you get with bar-end shifters. They match the external diameter of the bars (24.0) and have a very snug hand fit inside. These aren't done - I need to hollow them out, and I haven't decided whether just to use strong Loctite, or to rig a screw cone internal stopper. I figured out flikker: http://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/6566387189/in/photostream But still prefer SmugMug: diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/M-Bar-plugs/ Once I get them attached, I'll finish up the rest of the cockpit (stem, tape, brake cable routing, VO bell mount). But for now, they stay in, and they ride great! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stolen Bleriot.
Fortunately, Jim... The 61 cm Bleriot isn't too big for ME Shame that your Bleriot is stashed... Set it free... build it up for God's sake send it to ME Peace, BB On Dec 23, 3:27 pm, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: I'm in but not for a frame (I have a 61 cm Bleriot stashed and that's too big). If this gets rolling I'll go check out the parts stash and see what I've got. Off the top of my head this is what I recollect about the collection: I know I have chainrings, I've got some cranksets but those are 175's. I have some 9 speed brifters for double chain rings. A mighty fine idea, Happy Holidays! -JimD On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Joe Broach wrote: Surely we can find Manny another 49 Bleriot? If not us, who? Then build it up with parts sent from all of our stashes. Who's in? Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Stolen Bleriot.
Bobby, Sorry I have dreams for it. -JimD On Dec 24, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Fortunately, Jim... The 61 cm Bleriot isn't too big for ME Shame that your Bleriot is stashed... Set it free... build it up for God's sake send it to ME Peace, BB On Dec 23, 3:27 pm, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: I'm in but not for a frame (I have a 61 cm Bleriot stashed and that's too big). If this gets rolling I'll go check out the parts stash and see what I've got. Off the top of my head this is what I recollect about the collection: I know I have chainrings, I've got some cranksets but those are 175's. I have some 9 speed brifters for double chain rings. A mighty fine idea, Happy Holidays! -JimD On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Joe Broach wrote: Surely we can find Manny another 49 Bleriot? If not us, who? Then build it up with parts sent from all of our stashes. Who's in? Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Lowrider Front Rack for Samuel Hillborne
Greetings all and happy holidays. I am looking to find a good lowrider front rack for my 52cm Hillborne. It would be in addition to a mini front rack with basket in front and a full rack in back for a long tour coming up. I am curious if anyone on this list has some recommendations or perhaps a used set-up they'd like to sell. Cheers, Adam Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
