Re: [RBW] Asymmetrical stays
One offs and rarities. Love it. On Saturday, February 11, 2012, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Look at what I stumbled across on Flickr... A Bombadil with asymmetrical stays... http://www.flickr.com/photos/catt1788/6820927595/in/photostream/lightbox/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vGAF1ychg3AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Asymmetrical stays
I remember reading somewhere that the stresses on the chain stays are unequal, so the asymmetrical stays make engineering sense, I think. I'm not an engineer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yh7Eluhrn8wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...
Thanks Charlie - I hear you on the damage and tubing concerns. I am lucky enough to have a frame builder local to me that is going to help me though this. We have discussed the possibility of making a new fork. If the frame has rust issues and other structural damage I will not move forward with it for sure. The cost of adding cantis to a nice frame is pretty cheap - at least in my neck of the woods. I was planning on painting it anyway, and have a resource to get that done on the cheap. The trucker is a pig for sure - at least the way I have it setup. Not sure if you looked at the pictures, but the Conti Contact 26 x 1.75 tires probably have something to do with that... but it was by design and I love the bike for it and what I use it for. I have beat that thing fire roads occasionally and pulled a home made crappy cart with it. It will stay as is. Make no mistake - handling, feel, quickness i.e. sprightly would be the LAST descriptive term I would use. Again - I love the bike and have pushed it thought a century or two. I hope to have a better experience on long rides little or no load. Maybe I am fixing my head, but my experience ridding other bikes has confirmed my belief of the rubenesque nature of the LHT. Hopefully that dispels any vagueness I have previously conveyed. Do I want a different bike - no revelation there. I would be lying if I said no. I am would have a garage full if my wife would not divorce me first. I really hope to wind up with something different that what I have. Perhaps something more special as it as hand built about 20 miles from where I live now. Or it will be an abomination and I will learn a valuable lesson. I am sure the jury here will let me know there thoughts on that :-) I like Grant and have leaned much about about bikes and subscribe to much his philosophy. So much so that I purchased an XO-1 frame because I wanted a piece of that history and design perspective. Riv undoubted makes wonderful bikes. I can even say that I will own one in the future when I can swing it financially. But that is not today. In terms of design, I wonder if there is any truth to the mystical nature of low trail 650B bikes. Riv's do not (in my uneducated opinion) fall into this category. There has been debate on this subject ad nausea already I will not pile on. However - I believe there may be some truth to the hoopla and I want to find out for myself on the cheap. Charlie - thanks for your sage advice. I appreciate your point of view. It may as well be a Rivendell they are pretty nice for quite a few good reasons. - no doubt about that. I envy you guys and your classy rides. Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ow8qqmcwhi0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 58cm Quickbeam FS
Timing is everything. I just purchased my QB used, when...a rare bike I've been searching for (over a fairly extended period) has unexpectedly become immediately available to me. I'm at that stage in life where if something comes into the garage, something else must go out. So, my recently acquired orange QB is FS. It's a mostly standard Riv build, with technomic stem and mustache bars. One very effective upgrade - I swapped out the stock canti's for Grafton Speed Controllers II (mine are magnesium, and a bike's worth run around $350 up if you can find 'em). No heelstrike problems in rear, and awesome stopping power with incredible modulation. The original owner purchased an additional larger front ring and appropriately sized chain, as well as a front rack (mounts to flat fork eyes) and canvas bag. It currently wears Ritchey cross tires. I'll leave the choice of saddle up to you. The paint is near-perfect, apart from showing signs of wheel mounts, and two mechanic-originated pinhead spots on the bb shell. I've got over $1650 into it; it can be yours for $1450. If you don't want the Grafton brakes, we can work out a substitute and price adjustment. If you'd like a nearly-perfect Brooks B17, add $65. If it has to be packaged and shipped, I'll have a great LBS do it for you at cost. Alistair -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
How is the chain line? Are you running a double chainring up front or a single? Does the bike coast in the stand better on one of the two cogs on the DOS? Are you sure you have the correct width chain (3/32 I believe)? Could you stick a fixed cog on the flop side, even just temporarily, to remove the freewheel from the equation? Others are probably correct that tires may be your cure, but I'd check the drive train as well. Good luck! - M On Feb 10, 1:48 pm, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I've really been loving the single speeding simplicity of my new-to-me QB, but it's not feeling particularly quick. I was expecting a slick, efficient, butter-smooth feel to the bike, but it seems a bit more like I'm riding through peanut butter. I'm finding I need to pedal on slight downhills that my Sam and LHT will accelerate while coasting down. Sluggish is about the only way to describe it. There are a couple of things I'm thinking, and would appreciate any advice: 1) This is my first experience with an Albatross bar and the upright posture may be increasing my (already considerable) wind resistance more than I'm used to. 2) I added a Dos Eno freewheel and it's got a pretty hefty amount of drag. When I have the bike in the stand, and spin the rear wheel in the forward, freewheeling, direction the cranks spin right along too. This doesn't happen with my cassette-equipped bikes. The wheel also doesn't coast (in the stand) nearly as long as my shimano cassette equipped bikes. Maybe this gets better over time? It's a brand new freewheel. I had a Shimano freewheel on it for a while, and the bike felt better, but could the Dos Eno really be that slow? 3) The Jack Brown Blue/Open Sport wheels on the QB are close enough in weight to the Kojak/Dyads on my Sam that I don't think I'm noticing a radical difference in inertia. Tire pressures are checked and fine. 4) This is my first ever single speed (if you don't count the Schwinn BMX bike I had when I was 12) - is there any trick to setting them up that I may not be aware of? I read all of Sheldon's advice on the topic... my chainline seems fine (wouldn't matter coasting anyway) and the tension seems OK. The wheel is straight Thanks in advance for any help, Pete in CT SingleSixtySidepullSam... and Quick-ish-beam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Green Ram touch-up paint
Looking to do some touch-up on the new-to-me green Ram and was looking for ideas on paint or nail polish that might work. The archives mention Testors #1530 (so-so match) and a Sally Hansen polish but the URL is dead. Any other good matches people have found? Thanks Dan San Rafael, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
First thing I do when a bike feels like a pig is start with the tires. On Feb 10, 1:48 pm, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: I've really been loving the single speeding simplicity of my new-to-me QB, but it's not feeling particularly quick. I was expecting a slick, efficient, butter-smooth feel to the bike, but it seems a bit more like I'm riding through peanut butter. I'm finding I need to pedal on slight downhills that my Sam and LHT will accelerate while coasting down. Sluggish is about the only way to describe it. There are a couple of things I'm thinking, and would appreciate any advice: 1) This is my first experience with an Albatross bar and the upright posture may be increasing my (already considerable) wind resistance more than I'm used to. 2) I added a Dos Eno freewheel and it's got a pretty hefty amount of drag. When I have the bike in the stand, and spin the rear wheel in the forward, freewheeling, direction the cranks spin right along too. This doesn't happen with my cassette-equipped bikes. The wheel also doesn't coast (in the stand) nearly as long as my shimano cassette equipped bikes. Maybe this gets better over time? It's a brand new freewheel. I had a Shimano freewheel on it for a while, and the bike felt better, but could the Dos Eno really be that slow? 3) The Jack Brown Blue/Open Sport wheels on the QB are close enough in weight to the Kojak/Dyads on my Sam that I don't think I'm noticing a radical difference in inertia. Tire pressures are checked and fine. 4) This is my first ever single speed (if you don't count the Schwinn BMX bike I had when I was 12) - is there any trick to setting them up that I may not be aware of? I read all of Sheldon's advice on the topic... my chainline seems fine (wouldn't matter coasting anyway) and the tension seems OK. The wheel is straight Thanks in advance for any help, Pete in CT SingleSixtySidepullSam... and Quick-ish-beam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 36t Hyperglide cog source?
Regarding the modification of the rear derailleur to accommodate a larger cassette / freewheel cog: Just this week I read about doing that on the bikeforums.net. A fellow was able to use a water jet cutter of some sort at his community college to cut a longer cage so he could use a vintage derailleur and a larger tooth freewheel. Not sure what measure of success with new set up yet or if he has even had a chance to test it out. A search should turn it up that discussion. Regards, Paul Dallas,TX area On Feb 10, 12:49 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I knew a Swedish rider (Olaf Stroh, nice guy) who drilled a 38 t TA outer chainring to bolt to the penultimate cog of a Shimano cassette, then made an extended mounting arm for his rd so that this could accomodate the new cog. Lessee: 24/38X27 = 17 whole gear inches. I hear that at least one, old SunTour rd could actually accomodate a 38 t big cog. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...
I was just in the EXACT SAME SPOT as you! I had an '08 Surly LHT that I rode constantly but was just finding it too sluggish. I wanted to run 700x32s with fenders and caliper brakes. I wanted something to fall in between my too-heavy LHT and my too twitchy/rough/unpleasant road bike. Guess what I bought. Go on, guess. My San Marcos arrived this Tuesday and I am building it up this weekend. It is gorgeous, and I cannot wait for her to be done. My advice is do what you think you'll be happier with in a year, even if it costs a few hundred dollars more. James On Feb 7, 7:05 am, trek610 tspin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am at a cross roads and need some help deciding on how best to spend my money... I am looking to get a nice all around bike for commuting, perhaps a century or two, 2 day bike overnight credit card, and light trail (crushed limestone/dirt) type riding. In the summer I wind up with 50 - 150 miles per week. I am currently using a Surly LHT for this type of riding, and really like it, but am longing for something a bit more .sprightly. Here is a picture of my current LHT to give you an idea of how I would like to setup this new ride. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b110/e_merlin/LHT%202010/IMG_0016.jpg I am not the tallest guy and ride a 50 - 53cm frame depending on the setup. I would outfit his new bike in a similar fashion with fenders, racks, rando bag etc... Here is my problem. I found a 531cs Trek 610 from 1984 that has (IMHO) nice geometry for my needs. Some specs - 430mm chain-stay, 52mm rake, 72mm bottom bracket drop, and i think 72 for so seat and head tube angles. Trek does not publish the geometry for anything but 22.5 frames that year... Trek Upgrade Path 1. 700C or 650B wheel conversion - bigger tire, better ride, more fender clearance (I already have a nice set of velocity 700c wheels for this project) 2. complete powder coat 3. Canti brake studs added 4. brazeons for various items 5. cold set the rear end 6. etc... I guess in the end this will require many new parts, some of which I have, but will be a considerable investment nonetheless. Now here comes the San Marcos It seems to be a nice solution as well and may very well similar in price to the trek by the time I am done with the frame parts. The San Marcos may be a bit more, but may be a better choice in the long run. The San Marcos seems to have perfect geometry for my kind of riding... What would you do if you were me? What bike will better serve me in the long run. I have to admit, since I live in Madison WI the Trek has some sentimental value to me. The San Marcos lugs look really nice however! I am torn with which direction to go, and since this is a big outlay of cash for me I am looking for some advice before going one way or the other... Thanks in a advance to any/all help. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
My 66cm QuickBeam is the first single-speed I've had in a long, long time. I'm riding it in a fixed-gear (40/16) with JackBrown Blues (85 psi) and I would not say it's slow or sluggish at all - in fact, just the opposite, and a delight to ride in every way. One thing that *could* make a bike feel sluggish is loose spokes - are the spokes properly tensioned on the OP's wheels? On chain tension (which is a negligible issue on bikes with derailers), I have found that there can be significant variability through the rotation of the cranks, if the chainring is not perfectly centered relative to the BB axle. With some patient adjusting, I've found it's possible to get the ring centered, just back off the bolts, then slowly snug a couple of them, rotate the cranks, and note where the chain gets tight. Then relax one or more bolts enough to nudge the ring to the rear a very small amount, snug back, and test again. It's an iterative process, but the chainring can be made to center around the BB with no discernable variation in chain tension. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Not So Quick Beam
Hmmm... something does sound a bit off in your description. I'd probably work from the ground up - I've actually not run the Kojaks, so I don't have an A/B comparison. But, I'd swap the tires over to see if it's more to your liking. Then I'd take careful look at the hubs. If your rear wheel is not coasting that long, you may have excessive load on the bearings. If you have cartridge bearings, make sure that you aren't compressing them when tightening the rear axle in the fork ends. With the bike in the stand, I would pull the chain off and see how it functions with no freewheel load. A lot of time, hubs can act fine until tightened into the frame. That freewheel sounds a little new - hopefully. The White fw has always felt like it has stronger engagement, but again, my first hand experience with one has been limited to not-on-the-bike futzing. I don't recall if there is a tension adjustment on those - you might give White a call. If it's new, I'd expect the factory grease to be part of the tension issue. I'd check side load on the bb as well. Those cranks should spin pretty much forever with no chain attached. Bear in mind that running a single speed freewheel bicycle is a bit different than a geared setup. You may find that your personally efficiency - the cadence and effort that you lapse into most often - is a bit different than the way the bicycle is geared. You may want to figure out what gearing you tend to end up in on the other bike, then see if you can match that with the QB. Also, minor differences in saddle and bars setup can be quite noticeable. My QB and my Hilsen are set up fairly closley, but when I go from one to the other, there's always a little feeling of inefficiency at first - the bikes have different saddles and slightly different positions. Quite simply, the more miles I put on one bike, the more noticible that is when I switch back over. Hope this helps, - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Asymmetrical stays
I am also not an engineer, but this is an interesting topic to me. If anyone has a link to an article or paper describing the different forces on the rear triangle in a traditional road bike please post it. Also, I wonder if assuming the forces are different would the asymmetrical stays create a noticeable effect to the rider? What about different sizes of chain stays or seat stays on each side? -Aaron Y. Rochester, NY On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Tom M tommil...@me.com wrote: I remember reading somewhere that the stresses on the chain stays are unequal, so the asymmetrical stays make engineering sense -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Phil Wood BB 116 JIS
Nearly new - installed once for a show bike. Never ridden. Stainless Steel axle version. No rings. $75 OBO shipped, or trade for a 110.5 ISO? Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/C0F4XoR8H6sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Green Ram touch-up paint
I used a Sally Hansen, Hard as Nails, Extreme Wear, nail polish that was a color called Emerald City, that I had my daughter pick up for me at Target. Close enough for me. Thing is, any touch-up is going to be 'on' the paint, so, you can tell, but, this is a metallic that blends in as well as I'd ever hope to. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-ylUkWesAJEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Not So Quick Beam
Thanks for all the great responses. I'm hoping to work methodically through the variables over the weekend, so I can identify the real issue and (hopefully) learn a thing or 2 in the process. Rather than my usual change a bunch of stuff and hope for an improvement method! I'll keep you posted. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kGNHN9P5IdcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Green Ram touch-up paint
Sally Hanson Hard as Nails Glow #3 is a pretty good match for my 1st generation green Sam. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00367KLR6/ref=oh_o06_s00_i00_details Jay On Feb 11, 3:53 am, danmc djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote: Looking to do some touch-up on the new-to-me green Ram and was looking for ideas on paint or nail polish that might work. The archives mention Testors #1530 (so-so match) and a Sally Hansen polish but the URL is dead. Any other good matches people have found? Thanks Dan San Rafael, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 58cm Quickbeam FS
People need to stop putting bikes in my size up for sale. Someone is going to be really happy with this one. Jay On Feb 11, 4:55 pm, ageorgestew...@gmail.com ageorgestew...@gmail.com wrote: Timing is everything. I just purchased my QB used, when...a rare bike I've been searching for (over a fairly extended period) has unexpectedly become immediately available to me. I'm at that stage in life where if something comes into the garage, something else must go out. So, my recently acquired orange QB is FS. It's a mostly standard Riv build, with technomic stem and mustache bars. One very effective upgrade - I swapped out the stock canti's for Grafton Speed Controllers II (mine are magnesium, and a bike's worth run around $350 up if you can find 'em). No heelstrike problems in rear, and awesome stopping power with incredible modulation. The original owner purchased an additional larger front ring and appropriately sized chain, as well as a front rack (mounts to flat fork eyes) and canvas bag. It currently wears Ritchey cross tires. I'll leave the choice of saddle up to you. The paint is near-perfect, apart from showing signs of wheel mounts, and two mechanic-originated pinhead spots on the bb shell. I've got over $1650 into it; it can be yours for $1450. If you don't want the Grafton brakes, we can work out a substitute and price adjustment. If you'd like a nearly-perfect Brooks B17, add $65. If it has to be packaged and shipped, I'll have a great LBS do it for you at cost. Alistair -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 36t Hyperglide cog source?
You know eventually Sunrace, or Sram will produce a 36t cassette for cheap. I think the smart thing to do is just wait for that. On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:48 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I think the people advising you to buy full cassettes are those that shop online and see the SRAM PG-950 11-34 9-speed cassette for as little as $30 shipped to your door, and see the Shimano HG61 12-36 9-speed cassette for as little as $48 shipped to your door. I think they are just cutting to the chase, since there is no readily available 36t cog. I'm with you on the notion of trying to do the minimum to achieve the particular goal. I try and do that, too. In this particular case, though, the minimum that has a high likelihood of success might just be to spend the $48, Bob's your uncle, low gears achieved. Not all that satisfying from a bike tinkering perspective, but your knees will love you. Best of luck whatever you choose. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3k-_Znw6uAsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Drive-Train Chirp
Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Drive-Train Chirp
Try lubing the rear derailer pulleys. On 2/11/12, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Drive-Train Chirp
On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 11:32 -0800, Darin G. wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. Most of the chirps when shifting I've heard seem to come from the derailleur pulleys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Drive-Train Chirp
My old style 105 rear der pulleys are worn so that lube doesn't help, especially when it gets cold and damp on night rides. Fortunately, the mail carrier delivered some replacements today On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 11:32 -0800, Darin G. wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. Most of the chirps when shifting I've heard seem to come from the derailleur pulleys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Need help deciding... Soma San Marcos or Revamp an 84 Trek 610...
Well written..I get ya on the LHT and the 'tanklike' nature of it. I have mine set up with some 700x47's now and it'll roll over pretty much anything.but its not super quick or lively feeling but then I'm not either. I've noticed a small but definite difference in certain machines and like others have said tires make a big difference. I used to run some 700x32's Urbanmax's on the Trucker and it felt closer to some of my other bikes. Finding a ride that fits your size, weight and strength to give the maximum durability and ease of riding is kind of a process. I'm finding that a frame about the weight and configuration of my SimpleOne with deraileur gearing and 37-38 mm wide tires works the best for me for the type of riding I mostly do. I seldom venture off road and I live in a hilly area with mostly decent pavement shoulders on the roads. I'm leaning toward an eventual Homer Hilsen (but maybe beefed up in the down tube) because I am not fond of cantilever brakes. I don't tour but do carry a saddle bag so the Rando style machine is more to my liking with gearing set up for my area and knees. Its taken me about ten bikes over the last ten years to figure out what works best for me... On Feb 11, 7:16 am, trek610 tspin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Charlie - I hear you on the damage and tubing concerns. I am lucky enough to have a frame builder local to me that is going to help me though this. We have discussed the possibility of making a new fork. If the frame has rust issues and other structural damage I will not move forward with it for sure. The cost of adding cantis to a nice frame is pretty cheap - at least in my neck of the woods. I was planning on painting it anyway, and have a resource to get that done on the cheap. The trucker is a pig for sure - at least the way I have it setup. Not sure if you looked at the pictures, but the Conti Contact 26 x 1.75 tires probably have something to do with that... but it was by design and I love the bike for it and what I use it for. I have beat that thing fire roads occasionally and pulled a home made crappy cart with it. It will stay as is. Make no mistake - handling, feel, quickness i.e. sprightly would be the LAST descriptive term I would use. Again - I love the bike and have pushed it thought a century or two. I hope to have a better experience on long rides little or no load. Maybe I am fixing my head, but my experience ridding other bikes has confirmed my belief of the rubenesque nature of the LHT. Hopefully that dispels any vagueness I have previously conveyed. Do I want a different bike - no revelation there. I would be lying if I said no. I am would have a garage full if my wife would not divorce me first. I really hope to wind up with something different that what I have. Perhaps something more special as it as hand built about 20 miles from where I live now. Or it will be an abomination and I will learn a valuable lesson. I am sure the jury here will let me know there thoughts on that :-) I like Grant and have leaned much about about bikes and subscribe to much his philosophy. So much so that I purchased an XO-1 frame because I wanted a piece of that history and design perspective. Riv undoubted makes wonderful bikes. I can even say that I will own one in the future when I can swing it financially. But that is not today. In terms of design, I wonder if there is any truth to the mystical nature of low trail 650B bikes. Riv's do not (in my uneducated opinion) fall into this category. There has been debate on this subject ad nausea already I will not pile on. However - I believe there may be some truth to the hoopla and I want to find out for myself on the cheap. Charlie - thanks for your sage advice. I appreciate your point of view. It may as well be a Rivendell they are pretty nice for quite a few good reasons. - no doubt about that. I envy you guys and your classy rides. Cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Asymmetrical stays
I'm no engineer either, but that is totally tentacular, tripendicular, and bombadilious... NICE BIKE!! BB On Feb 11, 11:26 am, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: I am also not an engineer, but this is an interesting topic to me. If anyone has a link to an article or paper describing the different forces on the rear triangle in a traditional road bike please post it. Also, I wonder if assuming the forces are different would the asymmetrical stays create a noticeable effect to the rider? What about different sizes of chain stays or seat stays on each side? -Aaron Y. Rochester, NY On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Tom M tommil...@me.com wrote: I remember reading somewhere that the stresses on the chain stays are unequal, so the asymmetrical stays make engineering sense -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Asymmetrical stays
Remember Grant posting that the stays on the new mystery bike were the result of a poorly interpreted sketch he'd sent the frame builder? Maybe that sketch was for a proto Bomba? Anyway, that's one Huge Bike! Scroll thru the rest of the photos you'll find Hilsen details (but not the whole bike) and a lot of photos that look European. Could there be some really large Rivendells wandering the back roads of the old continent? dougP On Feb 11, 1:52 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm no engineer either, but that is totally tentacular, tripendicular, and bombadilious... NICE BIKE!! BB On Feb 11, 11:26 am, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: I am also not an engineer, but this is an interesting topic to me. If anyone has a link to an article or paper describing the different forces on the rear triangle in a traditional road bike please post it. Also, I wonder if assuming the forces are different would the asymmetrical stays create a noticeable effect to the rider? What about different sizes of chain stays or seat stays on each side? -Aaron Y. Rochester, NY On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Tom M tommil...@me.com wrote: I remember reading somewhere that the stresses on the chain stays are unequal, so the asymmetrical stays make engineering sense- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Asymmetrical stays
Regarding the structural considerations of the stays, unless someone comes up with a compelling argument to the contrary, I'm going with just for the fun of it. They must be OK if that big guy can ride that big Bomba. And the cool factor cannot be denied. dougP On Feb 11, 1:52 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I'm no engineer either, but that is totally tentacular, tripendicular, and bombadilious... NICE BIKE!! BB On Feb 11, 11:26 am, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: I am also not an engineer, but this is an interesting topic to me. If anyone has a link to an article or paper describing the different forces on the rear triangle in a traditional road bike please post it. Also, I wonder if assuming the forces are different would the asymmetrical stays create a noticeable effect to the rider? What about different sizes of chain stays or seat stays on each side? -Aaron Y. Rochester, NY On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Tom M tommil...@me.com wrote: I remember reading somewhere that the stresses on the chain stays are unequal, so the asymmetrical stays make engineering sense- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
To remove any doubt, just temporarily throw on a set of skinny go-fast wheels (if you have em)... It's simply GOT to be the hubs or the rubber (unless the brakes are dragging)... those are the only 2 factors that would create a noticeable difference. Good luck BB On Feb 11, 12:25 pm, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the great responses. I'm hoping to work methodically through the variables over the weekend, so I can identify the real issue and (hopefully) learn a thing or 2 in the process. Rather than my usual change a bunch of stuff and hope for an improvement method! I'll keep you posted. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 46 Noodles swapped for 42s
I just swapped out the 46 cm Noodles for a pair of 42s (thanks, Dylan -- I'll mail the 46s this coming week) and I must say that I much prefer the narrower ones. I've got them at the same height and reach and feared that they would feel too close, but they feel just right. I've tried wide bars -- Noodles, all sorts of different dirt drop flares including the original WTBs and Salsas, but I keep coming back to more narrow ones. In fact, I put 38/42 -- or perhaps they are 37/41; forget -- Compass Bicycle Maes Parallels on the two Rivs and I must say those are the nicest road bars I've used. (And, they are made by NItto to an even nicer finish than the Noodles, etc). The only thing I miss -- slightly -- from the 46s is the additional room on the flats on either side of the rather wide tubular bar bag; but that is a minor price for the greater comfort otherwise. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 46 Noodles swapped for 42s
Funny - I am trying some older Nitto B115 olympiads in a 39 (from an 80's Soma - polished up nice with simichrome, BTW). So far I am finding them very nice. I have also used 46 noodles and wasn't enamored with them. I haven't done a longer ride with them yet, but I have a couple coming up. Brian Seattle On Feb 11, 2012, at 4:39 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just swapped out the 46 cm Noodles for a pair of 42s (thanks, Dylan -- I'll mail the 46s this coming week) and I must say that I much prefer the narrower ones. I've got them at the same height and reach and feared that they would feel too close, but they feel just right. I've tried wide bars -- Noodles, all sorts of different dirt drop flares including the original WTBs and Salsas, but I keep coming back to more narrow ones. In fact, I put 38/42 -- or perhaps they are 37/41; forget -- Compass Bicycle Maes Parallels on the two Rivs and I must say those are the nicest road bars I've used. (And, they are made by NItto to an even nicer finish than the Noodles, etc). The only thing I miss -- slightly -- from the 46s is the additional room on the flats on either side of the rather wide tubular bar bag; but that is a minor price for the greater comfort otherwise. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Medium shopsack is back!
Ah, it turns out they're not quite back in stock yet. I rode over to RBW this morning, and learned that they'll have the medium olive bags back, eventually. Their brief reappearance on the website was premature. And it's the grid-grey model that's been discontinued. But, no matter, it was a fine day for a ride. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 46 Noodles swapped for 42s
Wide bars are nice for off road but I find the narrower ones more comfy for road riding. I think Grants bias is due to having either long arms and wide shoulders or a preference for more control in off road situations.just mt guess. On Feb 11, 4:39 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just swapped out the 46 cm Noodles for a pair of 42s (thanks, Dylan -- I'll mail the 46s this coming week) and I must say that I much prefer the narrower ones. I've got them at the same height and reach and feared that they would feel too close, but they feel just right. I've tried wide bars -- Noodles, all sorts of different dirt drop flares including the original WTBs and Salsas, but I keep coming back to more narrow ones. In fact, I put 38/42 -- or perhaps they are 37/41; forget -- Compass Bicycle Maes Parallels on the two Rivs and I must say those are the nicest road bars I've used. (And, they are made by NItto to an even nicer finish than the Noodles, etc). The only thing I miss -- slightly -- from the 46s is the additional room on the flats on either side of the rather wide tubular bar bag; but that is a minor price for the greater comfort otherwise. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drive-Train Chirp
I would first make sure there's no bird caught in your derailleur cage... :) Seriously, are your gears indexed? If so, is the chain properly seated (centered) on the cogs when you hear the chirping? Can you micro-adjust the shifter/cable to see if this eliminates it? Also, do any of your cassette/freewheel cogs show excessive wear/deformity? The list of possibilities should be short... Good luck, BB On Feb 11, 2:47 pm, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: My old style 105 rear der pulleys are worn so that lube doesn't help, especially when it gets cold and damp on night rides. Fortunately, the mail carrier delivered some replacements today On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 11:32 -0800, Darin G. wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loud chirp (like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loud chirp (like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . No chirp on the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. Most of the chirps when shifting I've heard seem to come from the derailleur pulleys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?
Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy Record 10 group on my Ramouillet? And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?
Do it. On Feb 11, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Eric wrote: Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy Record 10 group on my Ramouillet? And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
