[RBW] Re: 46 Noodles swapped for 42s
I've been thinking about going from 46 to 44. I just swapped out a 10cm stem for an 8 on the Hillborne and its like a new bike. I think a little narrower bar would bring it all together. I've also been checking out the Compass Randonneur bars but they seem to be 38.5 or something. They look interesting though. Regards, Ray On Feb 11, 4:39 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just swapped out the 46 cm Noodles for a pair of 42s (thanks, Dylan -- I'll mail the 46s this coming week) and I must say that I much prefer the narrower ones. I've got them at the same height and reach and feared that they would feel too close, but they feel just right. I've tried wide bars -- Noodles, all sorts of different dirt drop flares including the original WTBs and Salsas, but I keep coming back to more narrow ones. In fact, I put 38/42 -- or perhaps they are 37/41; forget -- Compass Bicycle Maes Parallels on the two Rivs and I must say those are the nicest road bars I've used. (And, they are made by NItto to an even nicer finish than the Noodles, etc). The only thing I miss -- slightly -- from the 46s is the additional room on the flats on either side of the rather wide tubular bar bag; but that is a minor price for the greater comfort otherwise. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?
...Campy from derailed on... Auto spell correction attacks again! Campy Front Derailleur. On Feb 12, 11:52 pm, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote: If you post pics on Flickr you ought to blur out the plastic...err...carbon bits but Campy is fine. I have a Campy from derailed on the Hillborne and that thing shifts fast! On Feb 11, 10:45 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy Record 10 group on my Ramouillet? And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B67 wanted for trade
Thanks for the offer, but it looks like I already made a swap with another member. Best, Clyde On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote: hey Clyde, i would be amenable to a trade. i have a newish honey-colored B-67. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8TJFXr2LsFgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Threadless Stem Adaptors
Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa: http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
I used a cheap Delta adaptor on an older Bianchi build for one of my sons. No issues, works great. On Feb 13, 9:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless... I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma:http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa:http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 70 km and 30 stream crossings
Today Paul (on his Rivendell Sam) and I (on my still new Rawland rSogn) decided to explore a road at the far point of our usual 50km mixed surface SW loop here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. We met up at 8:15 at the local market, had some hot fresh soymilk and tiny Thai- Chinese donuts (pa thong koh) from a street vendor, and headed south. Where the long dirt section dumps you back on tarmac past the halfway point, we have always gone left/downhill/back to town. Today we decided to go right, which on our GPS map meandered along a stream for perhaps 5km, and then seemed to dead-end. Sounded pretty, anyway. We had stopped at our usual watering-place, a Hmong village along the longest dirt section, where we were unable to buy liter bottles of water. Instead, not for the first time, our bottles were refilled from a big 20 liter jug, and payment was steadfastly refused, which gave me no choice but to buy a kilo of local mandarin oranges (for the even here ridiculous price of 30 cents) and stuff the bag in my handlebar bag. We would be glad to have them later. The new to us road took us over a ridge, and then dropped us along a narrow paved section into the next valley. The road was being widened, and the operator of an excavator blocking the entire road as it was chipping away at the cliff somehow saw us coming over his shoulder, suspended work and let us sneak by with a nod. No flagmen, here. Dropping down into the valley we found a merry creek and a lush valley floor, a welcome sight here at the height of the dry season. We began climbing up the valley past a couple of little villages and well- tended fields, and a few remaining forest giants above us on the lower slopes. The paved road ended at a little wat (Buddhist temple), where we took a brief rest and admired the plaster buddha statue under construction. Photos start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6870180197/in/photostream We continued along a dirt road into the remote upper reaches of the valley. After a couple of short steep climbs the valley flattened out again, and an occasional seepage of water from the slope to the left cooled the air and turned a section of road into rutted near-mud. This may not be a good ride in the wet season. As the road narrowed to a motorcycle trail, the creek started meandering like crazy from one side of the valley to the other, which meant that the trail, which ran more or less straight, crossed and re-crossed the stream every couple hundred meters on its way through orchards and tiny pastures. We counted 15 crossings before we had to turn around and recross them all. After making it through the first 3 or 4 unscathed (on 42mm Marathon Extremes and 42mm Grand Bois, respectively) we got cocky and really started to enjoy each crossing, Paul without fenders getting quite wet in the process, a welcome cool-down in the 90+ F / 30+ Centigrade heat. Some of the banks were quite steep and clay-y, which posed a bit of a challenge on the Hetres, especially since the water was deep enough that it was hard to maintain momentum all the way through the creek. So we didn't make it all the way up the far bank every time, but we did make it back onto dry ground every time. We started getting out our phone cameras to attempt some photography, but without too much success. We shall return with a real camera (and a dry bag, just in case). Having tarried, we needed to haul @ss back to town, as I had a yoga class to teach at 1 pm. Pushing hard climbing back over the ridge we got smiles and thumbs-up from the concrete-pouring crew. Somewhere along the way, running on empty, we made an emergency stop for a Coke, and had our water bottles forcibly refilled by the grandmotherly proprietor with water and ice. By the time we got back to the flat road home I was pretty bushed since I hadn't been riding much aside from my super short commute for the last couple of months, so Paul pulled us all the way back home in a mad 15km sprint. I got home, jumped in the shower, got on the scooter because my sit bones were hurting to the point where even sitting on the scooter was painful and riding a bike not to be contemplated. I got to the studio in time and taught my class basically without sitting down (I couldn't). A couple hours later the pain fortunately receded. I never had this happen quite this bad, and that even though I had swapped my most comfy B-17 from my own commuter/kid-hauler Sam Hillborne to my rSogn the night before. The sitbones (and attached hamstring tendons) felt mostly fine until the sprint, but during those last 30 minutes got progressively worse, slowing me down even more than the jello in my legs. Next time we'll take more time and add a few more stream crossings, hopefully following the creek all the way to the head of the valley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To
[RBW] FA: WTB Dirt Drop bars
All this talk of WTB bars got me to thinking, and then remembering, that I have some of these. Funny how that works! They're now on the 'Bay (item #300664015846), with free shipping to list members. Elton Pope-Lance Natick, MA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 46 Noodles swapped for 42s
Isn't the lean toward wide drop bars relative to saddle height?. IE.the higher the bars the narrower the feel. On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just swapped out the 46 cm Noodles for a pair of 42s (thanks, Dylan -- I'll mail the 46s this coming week) and I must say that I much prefer the narrower ones. I've got them at the same height and reach and feared that they would feel too close, but they feel just right. I've tried wide bars -- Noodles, all sorts of different dirt drop flares including the original WTBs and Salsas, but I keep coming back to more narrow ones. In fact, I put 38/42 -- or perhaps they are 37/41; forget -- Compass Bicycle Maes Parallels on the two Rivs and I must say those are the nicest road bars I've used. (And, they are made by NItto to an even nicer finish than the Noodles, etc). The only thing I miss -- slightly -- from the 46s is the additional room on the flats on either side of the rather wide tubular bar bag; but that is a minor price for the greater comfort otherwise. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 70 km and 30 stream crossings
Oh man, I can't believe it's been a year since my trip to Thailand. Your description those pics really make me want to return. What a country! Beautiful people and top notch riding. dougP On Feb 13, 8:30 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Today Paul (on his Rivendell Sam) and I (on my still new Rawland rSogn) decided to explore a road at the far point of our usual 50km mixed surface SW loop here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. We met up at 8:15 at the local market, had some hot fresh soymilk and tiny Thai- Chinese donuts (pa thong koh) from a street vendor, and headed south. Where the long dirt section dumps you back on tarmac past the halfway point, we have always gone left/downhill/back to town. Today we decided to go right, which on our GPS map meandered along a stream for perhaps 5km, and then seemed to dead-end. Sounded pretty, anyway. We had stopped at our usual watering-place, a Hmong village along the longest dirt section, where we were unable to buy liter bottles of water. Instead, not for the first time, our bottles were refilled from a big 20 liter jug, and payment was steadfastly refused, which gave me no choice but to buy a kilo of local mandarin oranges (for the even here ridiculous price of 30 cents) and stuff the bag in my handlebar bag. We would be glad to have them later. The new to us road took us over a ridge, and then dropped us along a narrow paved section into the next valley. The road was being widened, and the operator of an excavator blocking the entire road as it was chipping away at the cliff somehow saw us coming over his shoulder, suspended work and let us sneak by with a nod. No flagmen, here. Dropping down into the valley we found a merry creek and a lush valley floor, a welcome sight here at the height of the dry season. We began climbing up the valley past a couple of little villages and well- tended fields, and a few remaining forest giants above us on the lower slopes. The paved road ended at a little wat (Buddhist temple), where we took a brief rest and admired the plaster buddha statue under construction. Photos start here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6870180197/in/photostream We continued along a dirt road into the remote upper reaches of the valley. After a couple of short steep climbs the valley flattened out again, and an occasional seepage of water from the slope to the left cooled the air and turned a section of road into rutted near-mud. This may not be a good ride in the wet season. As the road narrowed to a motorcycle trail, the creek started meandering like crazy from one side of the valley to the other, which meant that the trail, which ran more or less straight, crossed and re-crossed the stream every couple hundred meters on its way through orchards and tiny pastures. We counted 15 crossings before we had to turn around and recross them all. After making it through the first 3 or 4 unscathed (on 42mm Marathon Extremes and 42mm Grand Bois, respectively) we got cocky and really started to enjoy each crossing, Paul without fenders getting quite wet in the process, a welcome cool-down in the 90+ F / 30+ Centigrade heat. Some of the banks were quite steep and clay-y, which posed a bit of a challenge on the Hetres, especially since the water was deep enough that it was hard to maintain momentum all the way through the creek. So we didn't make it all the way up the far bank every time, but we did make it back onto dry ground every time. We started getting out our phone cameras to attempt some photography, but without too much success. We shall return with a real camera (and a dry bag, just in case). Having tarried, we needed to haul @ss back to town, as I had a yoga class to teach at 1 pm. Pushing hard climbing back over the ridge we got smiles and thumbs-up from the concrete-pouring crew. Somewhere along the way, running on empty, we made an emergency stop for a Coke, and had our water bottles forcibly refilled by the grandmotherly proprietor with water and ice. By the time we got back to the flat road home I was pretty bushed since I hadn't been riding much aside from my super short commute for the last couple of months, so Paul pulled us all the way back home in a mad 15km sprint. I got home, jumped in the shower, got on the scooter because my sit bones were hurting to the point where even sitting on the scooter was painful and riding a bike not to be contemplated. I got to the studio in time and taught my class basically without sitting down (I couldn't). A couple hours later the pain fortunately receded. I never had this happen quite this bad, and that even though I had swapped my most comfy B-17 from my own commuter/kid-hauler Sam Hillborne to my rSogn the night before. The sitbones (and attached hamstring tendons) felt mostly fine until the sprint, but during those last 30 minutes got progressively worse, slowing me down even more than the jello in my legs. Next
[RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
San Francisco Randonneurs had their biggest turnout ever for a 200k yesterday, and I saw a whole gang of Rivendells. Too many to remember them all. I saw a Hunqapillar, a Protovelo, a couple Rambouillets, at least two Atlantis', a custom, a Hillborne, along with my Homer. I'm sure I'm missing more. There seemed to be a whole lot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DmSDUnLw6ukJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: B67 wanted for trade
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[RBW] FS: Phil, Sugino, Nitto, Acorn, Nigel Smythe...
-Phil Wood cartridge bottom bracket. 113mm. typical tight spin but not notchy/crunchy. came off my Atlantis..$75 shipped -Sugino XD2 triple crankset. 175mm. 110/74 BCD. crown logo. your choice of 3 rings (see pics). came off my Atlantis$75 shipped -Nitto Moustache bar. 26.0 clamp. heat treated. very minor scratches.$64 shipped -Sugino XD2 crank arms no rings, double. 175mm. 110 BCD. modern 9 speed crank. good tapers/threads..$40 shipped -Acorn olive small bar bag. unused. $72 shipped -Nigel Smythe tweed bag. 11.5 wide. $70 shipped mike goldman warwick,r.i. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f3960caec361131b4e7st05duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?
Or you could painstakingly gather silver Campy bits, at some expense. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ ~Peter On Feb 11, 10:45 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy Record 10 group on my Ramouillet? And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
On Feb 12, 4:31 pm, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Does anyone know a good web source for chain tension instruction? I haven't seen one. I run enough slack so I can shake the chain 3-4cm from top of shake to bottom. That may seem excessive to some - but my ride coasts like there's no tomorrow. Lurker here (who has a SimpleOne frame on order). This three-minute Park Tool instruction video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9la5VTbeQHofeature=youtube_gdata_player is nominally focused on the SRAM Torpedo fixed/free hub, but if you watch from the 1:23 mark the advice about chain tension is of general application and helped me to get the hang of tensioning the chains on my single speed and IGH bikes. With all good wishes, lexm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 50-32 crank option in silver
Is Rene Herse via Compass Bikes my only option for all silver cranks in 50-32? White Industries is close but they've black rings. Suggestions? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Threadless Stem Adaptors
I used to run them, made cockpit swaps nice and easy. Only complaint was the finish didn't match the bars I has so it looked a little funny but that is my ocd coming out, haha. On Feb 13, 2012 9:51 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa: http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Threadless Stem Adaptors
I've used both the VO adapters and the Nitto. Both were fine. I liked the look of the Nitto adapter better and the VO allows more room to raise the bars. Used both on heavily loaded touring Riv's. On a touring bike, I found that these stems made packing the bike for travel a bit easier. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9MBmmgEWDe0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nitto Dynamic 110mm Quill Stem
Just put this on my new build and it is too long for me, so it came right back off. Can't return it without a hefty restocking fee so I thought I'd see if anybody else wants it. 72 degree, 145mm stem height, 110mm quill. Looks brand new. $50 shipped or pick up in Denver. Thanks, James -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Rivendell Silver Hupe
This is basically a quick mounting rear saddle bag support that can mount on the rear of your frame. These are now discontinued at Rivendell, but can get one for the price of $25 shipped. E-mail me off list if interested! http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a35/modernfuturist/For%20Sale/15f043e7.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 46 Noodles swapped for 42s
on 2/13/12 9:41 AM, clyde canter at clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't the lean toward wide drop bars relative to saddle height?. IE.the higher the bars the narrower the feel. Never really heard that - the higher, the closer they physically move. -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] BQ / VBQ Issues - Free-ish to Good Home
These are sold. Payment has been received and they are staged to go today. Thanks for everyone who responded! - Jim PS - if anyone is interested in a nearly complete set of BIKE magazines dating back to Vol 1, No 1, I'm probably going to be moving those along in the next week or so. It's less an RBW thing (pretty MTB specific), and given the size of the collection, I think I'm going to push it onto a popular internet auction site. But, I'll give consideration on shipping to any list member who wins the auction - so if you are interested, drop me a direct email - cyclofiend either at earthlink which is dot net, or at gmail which is dot com. -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 5:02 PM, lexm alexei.marc...@gmail.com wrote: Lurker here (who has a SimpleOne frame on order). This three-minute Park Tool instruction video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9la5VTbeQHofeature=youtube_gdata_player is nominally focused on the SRAM Torpedo fixed/free hub, but if you watch from the 1:23 mark the advice about chain tension is of general application and helped me to get the hang of tensioning the chains on my single speed and IGH bikes. With all good wishes, lexm What a brilliant and simple test for whether a chain is too slack - use your handy Park Beer bottle opener to see if you can force the chain to derail. Just yesterday, after thinking about comments on this thread, I added a nudge of slack to the chain on my fixed-gear QuickBeam. Maybe it was too tight, for it pedals smoother now, with less noise. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
on 2/13/12 10:37 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: San Francisco Randonneurs had their biggest turnout ever for a 200k yesterday, and I saw a whole gang of Rivendells. Too many to remember them all. I saw a Hunqapillar, a Protovelo, a couple Rambouillets, at least two Atlantis', a custom, a Hillborne, along with my Homer. I'm sure I'm missing more. There seemed to be a whole lot. Photos? - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Asymmetrical stays
hey, i'm not the only one here with a triple digit PBH! Nice bike, and would be fun to swap a ride on this for one on my 72 AHH! Jim in Boulder -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yvRPTopt5BwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Phil, Sugino, Nitto, Acorn, Nigel Smythe...
I'm interested in the BB/XD2 triple (I assume they are compatible). What rings do you have? I didn't see a link to pics. Thanks, Toshi On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.com wrote: -Phil Wood cartridge bottom bracket. 113mm. typical tight spin but not notchy/crunchy. came off my Atlantis..$75 shipped -Sugino XD2 triple crankset. 175mm. 110/74 BCD. crown logo. your choice of 3 rings (see pics). came off my Atlantis$75 shipped -Nitto Moustache bar. 26.0 clamp. heat treated. very minor scratches.$64 shipped -Sugino XD2 crank arms no rings, double. 175mm. 110 BCD. modern 9 speed crank. good tapers/threads..$40 shipped -Acorn olive small bar bag. unused. $72 shipped -Nigel Smythe tweed bag. 11.5 wide. $70 shipped mike goldman warwick,r.i. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried consumerproducts.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
hi joe, 7 speed is all i run. shifts the best. but others will disagree. all you need is a 4mm spacer and a 7 speed cassette. sram's is good and cheap too. just install the spacer cassette, make a few adjustments on the hi low screws and off ye go. and i betcha you will be pleased as can be. oh and use whatever chain you have handy. if your 9 speed chain still has some life you won't need to replace it. should shift fine. jake On Feb 13, 12:56 pm, Joe S ddlttr...@verizon.net wrote: I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
i would also focus on chain tension as the culprit; it's easy, esp. when you're first riding SS or fixed, to focus on derailment to the point of getting it too tight for efficiency. The truth is, single cog drivetrains feel best with the absolute minimum amount of tension needed to prevent derailment. Tension is much more critical in off-road riding or fixed gear riding, where bumps or high-rpm pedaling increase the chances of derailment; for on-road SS riding, it's much easier to err on the side of too slack. But even with a fixed gear, you'd be surprised how slack you can run the chain without any real danger (assuming good chainline, of course); check out pictures of track racers' bikes at rest and you'll see what i mean. The chain should sag just enough to see it when it's at rest. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MEn76-_Zzd0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
Jeremy, Thanks. I read your email to my SS RedLine Monocog. It nodded its stem and bars in agreement, winked a brake lever at me and then responded by showing just that amount of chain slack as you have described. I caught it in a photo and I agree with you completely on not running a SS chain too taut. What a show-off that bike is. https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111838829033930119881/albums/5708720188748611345 -jb On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: i would also focus on chain tension as the culprit; it's easy, esp. when you're first riding SS or fixed, to focus on derailment to the point of getting it too tight for efficiency. The truth is, single cog drivetrains feel best with the absolute minimum amount of tension needed to prevent derailment. Tension is much more critical in off-road riding or fixed gear riding, where bumps or high-rpm pedaling increase the chances of derailment; for on-road SS riding, it's much easier to err on the side of too slack. But even with a fixed gear, you'd be surprised how slack you can run the chain without any real danger (assuming good chainline, of course); check out pictures of track racers' bikes at rest and you'll see what i mean. The chain should sag just enough to see it when it's at rest. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MEn76-_Zzd0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
This is really great, helpful, info for a SS newbie! Thanks all. I was REALLY running my chain too tight! I might even loosen it some more for the commute home. -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/asHVTQFQ_GAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 09:56 -0800, Joe S wrote: I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? This is a case where more is less, and less is more. Go to 8 and you probably won't be able to cross-chain large front large rear, whereas with a 7 speed you can do it just fine. That can, under some circumstances, be a huge asset. So, less is more. Going to 8 would give you a 12 or 11T small sprocket, which mated with the 46 will give you a uselessly high high gear in exchange for not being able to cross-chain to the largest sprocket. So, more is less. Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? If your RD works now with a 36, it will work with the 34. Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Mine work brilliantly. Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Yes. I believe it's a 4.5mm, goes behind the cassette. Your LBS will know for sure. This isn't an unknown thing. Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? There is no longer a 7-speed chain. They now call an 8-speed chain a 7-8 speed chain. Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? If you learned friction shifting back in the day, you may need to change your habits a little. Back then, you strived to unload the chain when shifting. With Hyperglide, I find shifting is a lot better if you maintain load: the shift goes in with a nice CLUNK and needs no trimming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Hoarding - Berthoud 2086 Front Bag (narrow) for sale
Hi JimD, Have you sold this yet? I'll take it for $150 including shipping. Thanks, Benz in Sunnyvale, CA94087 benz...@yahoo.com On Feb 12, 6:58 pm, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Bag has never been used is in brand new condition. I measure it at 270 w X 170 h X 145 d has shoulder strap and bar straps Price is $150.00 or best offer plus shipping Pictures are here:https://picasaweb.google.com/JimDgoog/JimDs_Bike_Stuff02 If interested please contact me off list. My hoarding anonymous sponsor will be so pleased. -JimD starting to feel better already -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
Sorry, only Homer: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3SkC3pWiVnI/TzmEfcRbUTI/AiU/PyoV0tcMTdc/s1600/6866855771_8a272028e1_z.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uS-FBmXEbgQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
My other photos from yesterday's brevet are on my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629296737963/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Um3AlnEYe4oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
The biggest gotcha is that you can't run a 22T chainring on a 74mm bolt circle. Are you changing out cranks to ones with a 94/58mm BCD? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/c-uT_6x6tMAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
As was pointed out, you'd need a new crank to run a 22t chainring. Most likely this means a semi-modern 104/64 mountain triple or an older/obsolete 94/58 microdrive-style crank. In either case, 46t rings aren't readily available (my research has not been exhaustive on this). Unless you already have one of these cranks, it seems like a big cash layout for the 2t difference on the low end, especially when you're sacrificing the 36t cog in back. If you're using friction shifters, the 9sp chain should work on a 7/8sp cassettes, but not vice versa. You can also buy a 8sp chain like the SRAM PC-870, etc, but f you're using 9sp derailleurs, especially in front, better to stick with the narrower 9sp chain. Frankly, I don't see the point of this exercise. Using older-series parts is ok if that's what you already have, but to spend perfectly good money to retrofit your bike with less widely available parts (and dwindling selections of cassettes/derailleurs/shifters) doesn't make sense to me. I understand Steve's 'less is more' argument, but it's not THAT much more, and in some ways it is, in fact, less. If you don't like the 12t cog, maybe go to a 44t big ring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8w799T-gLkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
I'm using a Nitto MTC-12 adapter, along with some spacers, and a VO Tall Stack Threadless stem. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a35/modernfuturist/1992%20Bridgestone%20RB-T/96d251f8.jpg It's a pretty seamless transition from the headset to the spacer to the stem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Silver Hupe
I'll take it if it's not taken already... Toshi On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Irv irvingp...@gmail.com wrote: This is basically a quick mounting rear saddle bag support that can mount on the rear of your frame. These are now discontinued at Rivendell, but can get one for the price of $25 shipped. E-mail me off list if interested! http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a35/modernfuturist/For%20Sale/15f043e7.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Joe S ddlttr...@verizon.net wrote: Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? None that I can see. I run 6 or 7 on my 8/9/10 sp hubs and haven't even bothered to change freehub bodies: I just stick two cog spacers between the flange and the biggest cog. The Silvers and the various derailleurs I've used, front and rear, work fine: just adjust the limit screws as needed. The only advantage to going with 8 is one more gear; likewise with 9, 10 and 11. I added one to the six I was at first using so that I could keep the range (in my case, 14, 15 or 16 to 34) while having a nice, relatively close cruising range in the roughly 55-70 range for road and 50 to 65 range for dirt, all on the big ring (46). You can use 10, 9, 8 or 7 (I don't think these are any different from 8 sp) speed chains for 7 unless you are -- as I am -- using 9 sp spacers between the seven cogs (I don't have anything else) in which case 10, 9 and (I am pretty sure) 8 will work. (Only 10 will work for 10 -- 9 sp chains just barely drag, IME.) Cobbling together your own cassettes is *so* liberating! I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
on 2/13/12 1:45 PM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, only Homer: Now, now... Never use only and Homer in the same sentance. :^) Congrats on your ride/and your ride. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com I had to ride slow because I was taking my guerrilla route, the one I follow when I assume that everyone in a car is out to get me. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: This is good to know. I fret slightly about the very modestly clumsy chain takeup when downshifting (ie, to bigger cog) certain of my HG cogs with friction, but I have never learned to shift and not back off the torque a bit. Must try this. your habits a little. Back then, you strived to unload the chain when shifting. With Hyperglide, I find shifting is a lot better if you maintain load: the shift goes in with a nice CLUNK and needs no trimming. Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 50-32 crank option in silver
TA Pro 5 Vis, as always. I hear that the new ones have a bit more gap between inside of right crankarm and spider so that modern (fatter) front derailleurs work without so much futzing. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote: Is Rene Herse via Compass Bikes my only option for all silver cranks in 50-32? White Industries is close but they've black rings. Suggestions? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
I agree with Jim Thill 300%. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WuGhte65H1kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:24 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Frankly, I don't see the point of this exercise. Using older-series parts is ok if that's what you already have, but to spend perfectly good money to retrofit your bike with less widely available parts (and dwindling selections of cassettes/derailleurs/shifters) doesn't make sense to me. I understand Steve's 'less is more' argument, but it's not THAT much more, and in some ways it is, in fact, less. If you don't like the 12t cog, maybe go to a 44t big ring. Well, one point is -- in my case, anyway -- I was unable to satisfactorily friction shift Hyperglide 8 without an unacceptable number of ghost shifts, but find friction shifting Hyperglide 7 to be very pleasant. Another point is, while 8 speed cassettes indeed have been dwindling, to the point that IMHO there are absolutely no worthwhile combinations available any longer [i.e., everything 28 comes with an 11 as the small sprocket] whereas the 14-32, 13-30 and 13-34 7 speed cassettes are all still available. 14-32, by the way, is the Bees Knees on a 650B when mated with a 39/53, and if you're looking for a cheap crank to set up a townie they're practically giving away 39/53s, they grow on trees. I've got a bike with a 20/32/44 I use with a 12-27 cassette. I won't go there again. The old microdrive bolt circle diameter's obsolete, as you said; and the new one is to be found in cranks of breathtaking ugliness and width of tread. I had the parts ready to convert that bike back to a 110/74 triple when the bike went in to have the bottom bracket bearings replaced, but I dodged the bullet for now: the rings, although showing wear, aren't worn to the point of needing replacement. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 14:41 -0800, CycloFiend wrote: Now, now... Never use only and Homer in the same sentance. :^) The one and only Homer Simpson... is found fairly often on the internet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Presumably Velo Orange will offer a 32 small ring (they only list 28 and 30 right now). Or you can get a TA 32 to fit the Velo Orange 50.4bcd cranks The Sugino OX801D comes stock in a 48/32 and a 50/34, but not a 50/32. The small ring is a 74mm bcd, so you could get any number of things for that. It is available 'all silver' but it's a very modern looking crank that you might not love. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2AlnODAeXn0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Campy Record 10 group on Rambouillet?
It's not *that* hard to build an all-alloy Campy-equipped bicycle. Here's my Riv Road on a brevet in 2010: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/4635857718/ Athena is nicely finished and offers almost all of the performance of Chorus at a lower price. --Eric N www.campyonly.com On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:25 AM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: Or you could painstakingly gather silver Campy bits, at some expense. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ ~Peter On Feb 11, 10:45 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Would I be breaking any RBW aesthetic rules by throwing on a Campy Record 10 group on my Ramouillet? And yes, carbon shifters/fd/rd but alloy cranks. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Phil, Sugino, Nitto, Acorn, Nigel Smythe...
toshi, the bb and cranks both came off my Atlantis. both chainline and small ring clearance were fine mike goldman warwick,r.i. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f399b322c879143bb79st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Does it need to be a double crank? I run a Ritchey Logic 110/74 triple, with a 46 (can fit a 50) in the middle position and a 32 inner. You can find the Ritchey's used, but Sugino makes a new 110/74 crank in silver. jim m wc ca On Feb 12, 5:15 pm, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote: Is Rene Herse via Compass Bikes my only option for all silver cranks in 50-32? White Industries is close but they've black rings. Suggestions? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 50-32 crank option in silver
TA Carmina On Monday, February 13, 2012, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Does it need to be a double crank? I run a Ritchey Logic 110/74 triple, with a 46 (can fit a 50) in the middle position and a 32 inner. You can find the Ritchey's used, but Sugino makes a new 110/74 crank in silver. jim m wc ca On Feb 12, 5:15 pm, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote: Is Rene Herse via Compass Bikes my only option for all silver cranks in 50-32? White Industries is close but they've black rings. Suggestions? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Asymmetrical stays
Sounds great, next time you're in Australia (or Germany), let me know! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KHM0EmDqgSAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Cejy2rxf34sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Asymmetrical stays
BTW, I love the cork spacer for the fender. I might just steal that idea next time I have my bike apart. :-) On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Tom twhar...@gmail.com wrote: No, not at all—I'm amused that you found it so quickly. Does that mean I'm not the only one who types Bombadil into Flickr every now and again? I was just waiting until we had photos of the completed bikes so I wasn't teasing people... Keven did ask me to hold off sharing, but I think he meant until the tentaculars had been revealed on the HS bike. Hope no-one is annoyed. It's an amazing bike to ride, on the weekend I loaded it down with a moderately stupid amount of stuff, just to see how it was. I wasn't able to discern any negative effects on the ride or handling. My previous bike was fine with a commuting load, but any more and it was 'noodly as'. Don't think that's going to be an issue with the Bomba! Cat really likes her AHH, too. More fullerer reports coming soon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bvX1gMtiNSoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Hoarding - Berthoud 2086 Front Bag (narrow) for sale
Hello Jim D, do you happen to have a Berthoud decaleur for sale as well? Thanks EJG (Jason) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qd2RZaXWsJYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
FWIW list, I have a 46 t **inner* TA Pro 5 Vis ring, used but still vg. Combine that with a 50 outer for a nice half-stepper. Prefer to trade for a much smaller inner, say a 36 or smaller. Tks. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Does it need to be a double crank? I run a Ritchey Logic 110/74 triple, with a 46 (can fit a 50) in the middle position and a 32 inner. You can find the Ritchey's used, but Sugino makes a new 110/74 crank in silver. jim m wc ca On Feb 12, 5:15 pm, Aaron Schmidt librar...@gmail.com wrote: Is Rene Herse via Compass Bikes my only option for all silver cranks in 50-32? White Industries is close but they've black rings. Suggestions? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
I have a Zoom stem adapter: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=23897 with a VO stem on my Riv Road. Used to have a Noodle bar, now a silver, 26.0, 42 cm SOMA Hwy 1. I went from an 8 cm extension to a 9 when I swapped the bars. Tried a 10 also, a front loading stem makes the swap a piece of cake. The combination of the Zoom adapter and VO stem is lighter than a Technomic Deluxe. The finish matches the stem and bar fairly well. It's also quite inexpensive. What's not to like? I have a 44 Cowbell 2 on another bike. Don't yet have enough miles on the SOMA to tell you which I prefer. The flare of the Cowbell is nice, not radical feeling (like a Woodchipper). I wish I had bought the 42 in the Cowbell, but I may change my mind if I can ever finally get it off road. Bill On Feb 13, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless... I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma:http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa:http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
I have two of the VO ones and they're great. I don't know of another with such a long quill. Used plenty of others in the past, no problems. Ryan On Feb 13, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless... I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma:http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa:http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hoarding - Berthoud 2086 Front Bag (narrow) for sale
No decaleur. -JImD On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:35 PM, ejg wrote: Hello Jim D, do you happen to have a Berthoud decaleur for sale as well? Thanks EJG (Jason) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qd2RZaXWsJYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 70 km and 30 stream crossings
What a bicycle ride! Seems to be a real country bike kinda bike ride. -JimD On Feb 13, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Earl Grey wrote: Today Paul (on his Rivendell Sam) and I (on my still new Rawland rSogn) decided to explore a road at the far point of our usual 50km mixed surface SW loop here in Chiang Mai, Thailand. We met up at 8:15 at the local market, had some hot fresh soymilk and tiny Thai- Chinese donuts (pa thong koh) from a street vendor, and headed south. Where the long dirt section dumps you back on tarmac past the halfway point, we have always gone left/downhill/back to town. Today we decided to go right, which on our GPS map meandered along a stream for perhaps 5km, and then seemed to dead-end. Sounded pretty, anyway. We had stopped at our usual watering-place, a Hmong village along the longest dirt section, where we were unable to buy liter bottles of water. Instead, not for the first time, our bottles were refilled from a big 20 liter jug, and payment was steadfastly refused, which gave me no choice but to buy a kilo of local mandarin oranges (for the even here ridiculous price of 30 cents) and stuff the bag in my handlebar bag. We would be glad to have them later. The new to us road took us over a ridge, and then dropped us along a narrow paved section into the next valley. The road was being widened, and the operator of an excavator blocking the entire road as it was chipping away at the cliff somehow saw us coming over his shoulder, suspended work and let us sneak by with a nod. No flagmen, here. Dropping down into the valley we found a merry creek and a lush valley floor, a welcome sight here at the height of the dry season. We began climbing up the valley past a couple of little villages and well- tended fields, and a few remaining forest giants above us on the lower slopes. The paved road ended at a little wat (Buddhist temple), where we took a brief rest and admired the plaster buddha statue under construction. Photos start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/6870180197/in/photostream We continued along a dirt road into the remote upper reaches of the valley. After a couple of short steep climbs the valley flattened out again, and an occasional seepage of water from the slope to the left cooled the air and turned a section of road into rutted near-mud. This may not be a good ride in the wet season. As the road narrowed to a motorcycle trail, the creek started meandering like crazy from one side of the valley to the other, which meant that the trail, which ran more or less straight, crossed and re-crossed the stream every couple hundred meters on its way through orchards and tiny pastures. We counted 15 crossings before we had to turn around and recross them all. After making it through the first 3 or 4 unscathed (on 42mm Marathon Extremes and 42mm Grand Bois, respectively) we got cocky and really started to enjoy each crossing, Paul without fenders getting quite wet in the process, a welcome cool-down in the 90+ F / 30+ Centigrade heat. Some of the banks were quite steep and clay-y, which posed a bit of a challenge on the Hetres, especially since the water was deep enough that it was hard to maintain momentum all the way through the creek. So we didn't make it all the way up the far bank every time, but we did make it back onto dry ground every time. We started getting out our phone cameras to attempt some photography, but without too much success. We shall return with a real camera (and a dry bag, just in case). Having tarried, we needed to haul @ss back to town, as I had a yoga class to teach at 1 pm. Pushing hard climbing back over the ridge we got smiles and thumbs-up from the concrete-pouring crew. Somewhere along the way, running on empty, we made an emergency stop for a Coke, and had our water bottles forcibly refilled by the grandmotherly proprietor with water and ice. By the time we got back to the flat road home I was pretty bushed since I hadn't been riding much aside from my super short commute for the last couple of months, so Paul pulled us all the way back home in a mad 15km sprint. I got home, jumped in the shower, got on the scooter because my sit bones were hurting to the point where even sitting on the scooter was painful and riding a bike not to be contemplated. I got to the studio in time and taught my class basically without sitting down (I couldn't). A couple hours later the pain fortunately receded. I never had this happen quite this bad, and that even though I had swapped my most comfy B-17 from my own commuter/kid-hauler Sam Hillborne to my rSogn the night before. The sitbones (and attached hamstring tendons) felt mostly fine until the sprint, but during those last 30 minutes got progressively worse, slowing me down even more than the jello in my legs. Next time we'll take more time and add a few more stream crossings, hopefully following the creek all the way to the head
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
Found a picture of one of Sheldon's (RIP) old fixed gears, which in my mind demonstrates just the proper amount of tension. http://sheldonbrown.org/images/ral-int-nospox-big.gif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QEvdDGuNkQIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Feeler - Bleriot Frame 61 cm
Bleriot frame has been sold. My Hoarders Anonymous sponsor (along with my wife) is pleased. -JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
On 2/13/12, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Found a picture of one of Sheldon's (RIP) old fixed gears, which in my mind demonstrates just the proper amount of tension. http://sheldonbrown.org/images/ral-int-nospox-big.gif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QEvdDGuNkQIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Found a picture of one of Sheldon's (RIP) old fixed gears, which in my mind demonstrates just the proper amount of tension. http://sheldonbrown.org/images/ral-int-nospox-big.gif Question for the group: Does a sagging bicycle chain follow the shape of a catenary? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary (fun reading there). - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Oops, that's what I get for thinking I know what I'm talking about. I went and checked. I'm actually running outer and middle. The middle is a 32, so my Ritchey Logic triple is one of the 94bcd ones, not the 110/74. Both rings are properly oriented. On Feb 13, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 36t Hyperglide cog source?
Here's some pics of my recently changed drive-train. I added the HG61 Shimano 12-36t cassette to my Hilsen and went all 9sp indexed. After a bit of fiddling, I have a pretty nice stump pulling setup with a 24 low to a 103.5 high on two chainrings. The Campy front derailleur is indeed a great catch. http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyGQPYx Brian H Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
Thanks for the info everyone. I think I'll give it a try, just not sure if I'll try the Soma bar or the Cowbell. The Soma is tempting because it comes in silver but the flare on the Cowbell is pretty sweet. I'll definitely go with one of those two bars. --mike On Feb 13, 5:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Zoom stem adapter: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=23897 with a VO stem on my Riv Road. Used to have a Noodle bar, now a silver, 26.0, 42 cm SOMA Hwy 1. I went from an 8 cm extension to a 9 when I swapped the bars. Tried a 10 also, a front loading stem makes the swap a piece of cake. The combination of the Zoom adapter and VO stem is lighter than a Technomic Deluxe. The finish matches the stem and bar fairly well. It's also quite inexpensive. What's not to like? I have a 44 Cowbell 2 on another bike. Don't yet have enough miles on the SOMA to tell you which I prefer. The flare of the Cowbell is nice, not radical feeling (like a Woodchipper). I wish I had bought the 42 in the Cowbell, but I may change my mind if I can ever finally get it off road. Bill On Feb 13, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless... I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma:http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa:http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
I love bars that flare some. Wouldn't want to use anything else. I would vote for the Salsas based on that. On 2/13/12, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info everyone. I think I'll give it a try, just not sure if I'll try the Soma bar or the Cowbell. The Soma is tempting because it comes in silver but the flare on the Cowbell is pretty sweet. I'll definitely go with one of those two bars. --mike On Feb 13, 5:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Zoom stem adapter: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=23897 with a VO stem on my Riv Road. Used to have a Noodle bar, now a silver, 26.0, 42 cm SOMA Hwy 1. I went from an 8 cm extension to a 9 when I swapped the bars. Tried a 10 also, a front loading stem makes the swap a piece of cake. The combination of the Zoom adapter and VO stem is lighter than a Technomic Deluxe. The finish matches the stem and bar fairly well. It's also quite inexpensive. What's not to like? I have a 44 Cowbell 2 on another bike. Don't yet have enough miles on the SOMA to tell you which I prefer. The flare of the Cowbell is nice, not radical feeling (like a Woodchipper). I wish I had bought the 42 in the Cowbell, but I may change my mind if I can ever finally get it off road. Bill On Feb 13, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless... I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma:http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa:http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
I'm using this kind of 94 BCD setup now with an older XC Pro crank. I've got a 46/32, but could easily have a 50 on there. Works great. http://flic.kr/p/bsV6ev Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, that's what I get for thinking I know what I'm talking about. I went and checked. I'm actually running outer and middle. The middle is a 32, so my Ritchey Logic triple is one of the 94bcd ones, not the 110/74. Both rings are properly oriented. On Feb 13, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
I don't have a close-up but here's mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5098361628/in/photostream/lightbox/ Same copper color as yours. On Feb 13, 9:44 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using this kind of 94 BCD setup now with an older XC Pro crank. I've got a 46/32, but could easily have a 50 on there. Works great. http://flic.kr/p/bsV6ev Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, that's what I get for thinking I know what I'm talking about. I went and checked. I'm actually running outer and middle. The middle is a 32, so my Ritchey Logic triple is one of the 94bcd ones, not the 110/74. Both rings are properly oriented. On Feb 13, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
I would personally skip the 8-speed cassettes if you're going to Silvers. The 7-speed is easier to shift, and I don't think one cog makes much difference. I originally migrated from 9 to 8 to 7 with the silvers. Same derailleur - works fine. I'm at the point where I friction one bike as a 7-sp and I index one as a 9 sp. The one that is most consistent is the 7, but I haven't had as much time with indexing... Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:13 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Joe: You mention you don't use the high ones much on your daily commute, and that's probably typical of most of us. You also mention using your Atlantis for loaded touring. My Atlantis is the only 8 speed bike I've owned I've fooled around with all sorts of cassette combinations. For loaded touring, I've observed that fairly closely spaced gearing (2 tooth differences) in the mid-range allows a forgiving choice of gears and shifts easy. My all time favorite cluster is the 13-28 7 speed but that's not quite low enough with a serious load. Adding a 32t or 34t big cog to make an 8 speed takes care of that issue. And I'm still running the standard 24/36/46 front rings. If you're really intrigued by 7s, and there's lots of people who swear by it love it, just get the 13-34 and the spacer, and don't mess with the chain rings for now. Ride ita lot. You may find out the 24 x 34 low is fine for your terrain loads, and the spacing works for you. All of this stuff is pretty forgiving easy to change back if something doesn't work out. If you're friction shifting 9 speed you won't have any issues with fewer cogs. While un-modified cassettes may shift better than customs, cogs spacers can be mixed'n'matched in surprising ways and still work. Be forwarned this exercise can be a black hole for time effort but it's a fun hobby. dougP On Feb 13, 9:56 am, Joe S ddlttr...@verizon.net wrote: I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Ooooh - I do love that copper Legolas! Brother from another mother! On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have a close-up but here's mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5098361628/in/photostream/lightbox/ Same copper color as yours. On Feb 13, 9:44 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using this kind of 94 BCD setup now with an older XC Pro crank. I've got a 46/32, but could easily have a 50 on there. Works great. http://flic.kr/p/bsV6ev Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, that's what I get for thinking I know what I'm talking about. I went and checked. I'm actually running outer and middle. The middle is a 32, so my Ritchey Logic triple is one of the 94bcd ones, not the 110/74. Both rings are properly oriented. On Feb 13, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Hey, it's a Legolas party up in here? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6630318915 I am running an old White Industries 94bcd with a 48x30, on a 103mm Phil bb. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 2/13/12, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Ooooh - I do love that copper Legolas! Brother from another mother! On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have a close-up but here's mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5098361628/in/photostream/lightbox/ Same copper color as yours. On Feb 13, 9:44 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using this kind of 94 BCD setup now with an older XC Pro crank. I've got a 46/32, but could easily have a 50 on there. Works great. http://flic.kr/p/bsV6ev Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, that's what I get for thinking I know what I'm talking about. I went and checked. I'm actually running outer and middle. The middle is a 32, so my Ritchey Logic triple is one of the 94bcd ones, not the 110/74. Both rings are properly oriented. On Feb 13, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
That settles it - 94 BCD. The perfect crank! It allows down to a 29t and up to a ... plenty! Why the heck did they go to 110??? Oh yeah - and bring back the Legolas, Grant!!! Brian On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, it's a Legolas party up in here? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/6630318915 I am running an old White Industries 94bcd with a 48x30, on a 103mm Phil bb. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 2/13/12, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Ooooh - I do love that copper Legolas! Brother from another mother! On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have a close-up but here's mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/5098361628/in/photostream/lightbox/ Same copper color as yours. On Feb 13, 9:44 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using this kind of 94 BCD setup now with an older XC Pro crank. I've got a 46/32, but could easily have a 50 on there. Works great. http://flic.kr/p/bsV6ev Brian Seattle, WA On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, that's what I get for thinking I know what I'm talking about. I went and checked. I'm actually running outer and middle. The middle is a 32, so my Ritchey Logic triple is one of the 94bcd ones, not the 110/74. Both rings are properly oriented. On Feb 13, 4:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jim M Do you run the chainring backwards? A ring machined to be a big-ring has the chainring bolt recesses on the outside and the shifting surface on the inside. Or do you run a 46 that is made to be a middle, like a half-step ring? Or do you let the chainring bolts stick out and act like ramps/pins? Just curious. I run that setup with a chainguard/42/30 on a 130/74mm triple, but my 42 was meant to be a middle ring, so I run it 'frontwards' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
