[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Don't discount the White crank too easily. They are much better looking than the pictures on their web site. The finish is a highly polished black, not the matt black we associate with mt bike carbon cranks. I hesitated for a long, long time because of the black rings, but after buying them I found both the looks and performance outstanding. And the versitility is huge. I run a 44/30 with an 11-28 nine speed cluster. I then switched to the new Shimano Ultegra RD, which is designed for wide range, compact dbles. This is probably the best shifting bike I have had in 30 years of riding, which includes a number of highly regarded set ups. Here's mine: http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100094/IMG_1885bgcolor=black Take a look. michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fUh7siQZj68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
Great pic. If you lay a straight edge over the top of the chain you could measure the static sag and provide a very good rule-of-thumb for setting up single speeds. To be verified by the Park beer bottle opener test, of course! From the photo it looks like about 1/4 - 3/8 inch? This might be more reliable even than the up-down wiggle test, as the force of gravity is pretty constant. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2ZksteTlOtEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
Friction 9-speed is working delightfully for me on 3 bikes. 2 downtube, one barcon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iEnqC_P_yfUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
There's a fine line between slack and super-taut that I consider optimal. I mostly ride my single-speeds fixed-gear, and I find a loose chain unnerving when I'm transitioning from forward pedaling to back-pressuring and back to forward pedaling again. With a freewheel, I'd probably run a bit looser. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EsqRLEp-05wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Threadless Stem Adaptors
There are tons of very cool 31.8 bars available now, which to me makes a threaded steerer a huge drawback in the versatility department. Riv has to be the número uno customer for Nitto quill stems. Maybe Riv could use this clout to get us some technomic stems with a 31.8 clamp! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8FerVZzo_NcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Threadless Stem Adaptors
PS: I'm doing the Cowbell 46cm on my Goodrich reconfiguration. These bars have a great bend, and they don't cost much. Black/silver doesn't really matter if you plan to put tape on it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rIsZ7RrwdoIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
44/30 and 9-speed 11-28 is a super setup. Michael, stock up on 11-26 9-speed SRAM cassettes as well. 11,12,13,14,16,18,21,24,28 *11,12,13,15,17,19,21,23,26* The 11-26 has only one 3-tooth jump to the 26. Everything else is a 2-tooth jump, except at the 11,12,13. That 3-tooth jump from the 18 to the 21 and back is often a place where I wish I had the smaller jumps. I've stocked up on both the 11-28 and the 11-26. I'm totally going to give that Ultegra derailer a look. Which Shimano Model # is that one? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hHNOw3oAIUQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
Mine is close: VO spec Sugino Alpina 48/32. Love this crank. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fk1zPCkRa-UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
You managed to get a 32 on a Sugino Alpina? I thought the Alpina was 110mm BCD, and as such only goes down to a 34 with Sugino rings and maybe to a 33 if you buy a TA ring. My recollection of the VO Suginos was that they were all 48/34. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WvucCMm9x2UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Speaking of gearing: 8-speed Sachs Aris FW body for sale
I listed a few $1 auctions on ebay. Included there is a NEW Sachs-Aris 8-speed freewheel body. If you are running 135mm Phil FW hub, this might be just the thing. No cogs, though. I bought the freewheel new and took the cogs and the spacers for various 7-speed Aris freewheel projects. http://www.ebay.com/itm/260957141935?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_500wt_1361 There is other $1 stuff there as well, if you are inclined to shop competitively. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7yElJn-RmR4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
Andrew got all funicular on us. The eyeball says the chain is a tad short of chainette, but I'm an english major. That being said, my favorite bit was: This implies that Square wheels can roll perfectly smoothly if the road has evenly spaced bumps in the shape of a series of inverted catenary curves. On Feb 13, 10:33 pm, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Found a picture of one of Sheldon's (RIP) old fixed gears, which in my mind demonstrates just the proper amount of tension. http://sheldonbrown.org/images/ral-int-nospox-big.gif Question for the group: Does a sagging bicycle chain follow the shape of a catenary? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary(fun reading there). - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Feb 13, 4:24 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Frankly, I don't see the point of this exercise. Using older-series parts is ok if that's what you already have, but to spend perfectly good money to retrofit your bike with less widely available parts (and dwindling selections of cassettes/derailleurs/shifters) doesn't make sense to me. I understand Steve's 'less is more' argument, but it's not THAT much more, and in some ways it is, in fact, less. If you don't like the 12t cog, maybe go to a 44t big ring. I'd have to agree with Jim on this one. I have 7,8,9 speeds that I shift with friction (I happen to like it that way) and I wouldn't change my 9 speed setup for a 7 or 8, nor would I upgrade the other two for a nine just for the sake of change.I'm more of the type ..when something works fine I leave it alone because I'm also the type that can over think it and screw it up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
Exactly why I needed to ask the question. I wasn't planning on swapping the cranks out for a 94/58mm BCD (I didn't know that a 22T chainring did not come on a 74mm BCD). As I thought about making this change over the last few months, whenever I saw something interesting I made a note. Somewhere along the line I saw something that made me think a 22T chainring would make a nice low end for my triple. I still need to go back and pull together my notes, but this puts off the 22T chainring idea. And as was also noted the 2T really doesn't buy that much. Thanks! On Feb 13, 4:54 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The biggest gotcha is that you can't run a 22T chainring on a 74mm bolt circle. Are you changing out cranks to ones with a 94/58mm BCD? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
Based on the feedback here I am leaning now towards an 8-speed and given the incompatibility of a 22T BCD chainring, it may be best to stick with the 24/36/46 chainrings. I just did a quick search and it appears that there is a 13-34 8-speed. I'm not sure how readily available they are or the cost, but I think it's worth looking at. You hit the nail on the head, though, as I am intrigued by 7s and have found my 7 perfect for my purposes, excepting I have never toured with it. On Feb 13, 9:13 pm, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Joe: You mention you don't use the high ones much on your daily commute, and that's probably typical of most of us. You also mention using your Atlantis for loaded touring. My Atlantis is the only 8 speed bike I've owned I've fooled around with all sorts of cassette combinations. For loaded touring, I've observed that fairly closely spaced gearing (2 tooth differences) in the mid-range allows a forgiving choice of gears and shifts easy. My all time favorite cluster is the 13-28 7 speed but that's not quite low enough with a serious load. Adding a 32t or 34t big cog to make an 8 speed takes care of that issue. And I'm still running the standard 24/36/46 front rings. If you're really intrigued by 7s, and there's lots of people who swear by it love it, just get the 13-34 and the spacer, and don't mess with the chain rings for now. Ride ita lot. You may find out the 24 x 34 low is fine for your terrain loads, and the spacing works for you. All of this stuff is pretty forgiving easy to change back if something doesn't work out. If you're friction shifting 9 speed you won't have any issues with fewer cogs. While un-modified cassettes may shift better than customs, cogs spacers can be mixed'n'matched in surprising ways and still work. Be forwarned this exercise can be a black hole for time effort but it's a fun hobby. dougP On Feb 13, 9:56 am, Joe S ddlttr...@verizon.net wrote: I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
Thank you all for the information thus far. I'm leaning towards an 8- speed and the information from William and Jim and DougP is making think I should stay pat on the chainrings. The information you have provided on the chains is encouraging. I most likely will trade out my 9-speed chain for an 8-speed, though I am understanding the 9-speed should be ok. I neglected to say at the outset that an impetus for me in making the change (besides the fact that wear and tear is starting to dictate it is time) was that I had a problem with a dropped chain under load on my last tour. Fortunately I was able to extricate myself from the problem, but the more I thought about it afterwards, the more I thought that a narrower chain with more sprockets was more of a liability on the road than a wider chain (which in theory would be stronger and easier to maintain) and fewer sprockets. On Feb 13, 12:56 pm, Joe S ddlttr...@verizon.net wrote: I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
So many of the posts here cite Riv gatherings and sightings on the West Coast. I wonder if they are just more common there. I live in NYC but have strong connections to the Bay Area (and I favor Grant's bike philosophy) so I own a Riv custom. I get strong reactions here. People literally stop me on Manhattan streets and say, Wow, that's a beautiful bike! or I've heard about Rivendells but have never seen one. I'm the odd man out in the local club, but I think the Rivendell aesthetic has just not penetrated much here; nor has the notion of bicycles as other than mere fitness machines. It's probably my skewed perspective, but it seems that way at times. This local club is a bunch of hammerheads and equipment geeks, mostly very fast riders, yet they are bemoaning the fact that the club is not growing, that there are no C level riders. For the first time in years, I am considering volunteering as a ride leader. Not to serve as a conduit to bring entry-level riders into the A or B classes, but to validate the concept of casual riding as an end in itself. But I wonder if I'll have to stipulate that I'm not doing this to replenish the ranks of A and B riders. They would really have to alter their perspective to accept that. Well, I'm getting off-topic. Who's riding Rivendell-style bikes here in the East? I do know of the BOB-ish off-roady ride up the Hudson, but that sounds too off-roady for me. (I like pavement.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] ISO Grid Grey Slickersack and Platrack
Just throwing it out there to see if there are any takers but i was looking to get a slickersack and platrack to commute with my laptop. I currently have a grid grey barsack with F-15 rack and trunsack small, both in grid grey I could trade if there are any takers. I know this is a longshot but missed the rush during the sale and now feel like if I dont jump on this fast I might be out in the cold. Thanks guys and gals. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
I rode my Samuel Hillborne in yesterday's brevet as well as the SFR Point Reyes Lighthouse 200k last month. Here's a pic from the lighthouse parking lot. Aaron https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hFWIJfZ1qvM/Tzn1_pQ1EGI/AAg/4DHuRkn9lwQ/s1600/PRLH-Hillborne.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cjuFER6Utf0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam
As long as there's no stiff links, yessir. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Andrew [ashtab...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:33 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Not So Quick Beam On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.commailto:jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Found a picture of one of Sheldon's (RIP) old fixed gears, which in my mind demonstrates just the proper amount of tension. http://sheldonbrown.org/images/ral-int-nospox-big.gif Question for the group: Does a sagging bicycle chain follow the shape of a catenary? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenary (fun reading there). - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Threadless Stem Adaptors
I also use the VO stem adapter and like it. If a really tall one is needed Soma makes one. http://store.somafab.com/sohiristad.html I had the tall Soma adapter at one time and it was too tall and I could only get it to insert far enough to give me the correct height so I successfully cut off about 2 of it, used a shorter bolt thus achieving the right height. A buddy is now using the modified Soma and really likes it as well. Regards, Paul in Dallas On Feb 13, 8:55 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I have two of the VO ones and they're great. I don't know of another with such a long quill. Used plenty of others in the past, no problems. Ryan On Feb 13, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, who out there has experience with threadless stem adaptors like this one made by VO:http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/vo-threadless... I guess Nitto makes one also. I know this may be a little off-topic for the Riv list but I think there are people here with experience using these. My rando bike currently runs a quill stem but I'm considering using one of these adaptors paired with threadless stem that can accommodate 31.8 bars so that I can run Salsa Cowbell 3 bars. I have them on my Cross Check now and did a ride yesterday and they're just fantastic. The really seem like they'd make an excellent bar for randonneuring. The reach is short, the drop shallow and they flare out a bit in the drops. It's unfortunate the Salsa doesn't make a 26.0 version and in silver. Soma makes a similar bar in silver and 26.0 (and 31.8) so I might try that out first as they're in expensive and I could use them with my quill stem. The main issue with the Somas is that the widest size is 44cm. Are there any down sides or concerns with using an adaptor like this? Here are links for the bars if anyone is interested. Soma:http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar Salsa:http://salsacycles.com/components/cowbell_3/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nigel Smyth Big Loafer, Nitto R-15, Technomic Standard
Hello All, Just joined the group, but I have been a reader for some time. Sorry my first post is a for sale one. I promise to contribute more to the rbw-verse in the future. Here goes. https://picasaweb.google.com/116766706625339314401 -Nigel smythe big loafer rear trunk sack in green tweed $110. This is an older model with the zipper fully covered. I absolutely love this bag, and I think I would buy anything made out of this material. Unfortunately I never use it, and I want to get a rando-style handlebar bag. -Nitto R-15 rear rack $75 I recently replaced on of the lower struts because I bent it with an overloaded pannier. -Nitto technomic standard 26.0 clamp 5 cm extension $35 Never used or installed, just sitting in my parts bin. All prices above include shipping to the lower 48. We can discuss shipping to other locations. I am willing to consider trades for a handlebar bag like an acorn or berthoud. I will sell the bag and rack combined for $160. I use paypal. Please contact me off list if interested. Thanks -Matt Gilkey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:39:13 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Why the heck did they go to 110??? 110 came first, followed by 94. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GrxKZDExGVwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:50 -0800, Joe S wrote: I neglected to say at the outset that an impetus for me in making the change (besides the fact that wear and tear is starting to dictate it is time) was that I had a problem with a dropped chain under load on my last tour. Fortunately I was able to extricate myself from the problem, but the more I thought about it afterwards, the more I thought that a narrower chain with more sprockets was more of a liability on the road than a wider chain (which in theory would be stronger and easier to maintain) and fewer sprockets. You won't win anything in the dropped-chain department going from 9 to 8, as 9 is no more prone to dropping than 8. Dropped under load is more accurately described as dropped to the inside when shifting the front derailleur under load, yes? If so, the answer to your problem is a chain keeper, like the N-Gear Jump Stop. In my experience, 9 speed chains wear as well as 8 or narrower, and any differences you encounter are apt to be due to differences in maintenance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:39 -0800, Joe S wrote: I just did a quick search and it appears that there is a 13-34 8-speed. I would like to see a citation for this. I do not believe this is correct. I'm aware of the 7 speed 13-34 K cassette, and Harris sells a custom 9 speed 13-34, but I'm not aware of any 8 speed cassette that begins with a 13T sprocket. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Nigel Smyth Big Loafer, Nitto R-15, Technomic Standard
matt, im interested in the big loaf. i have a Nigel bag that sorta has a greenish tint. some of your pics have a blue tint and some green. is the loafer the greenish tint? mike goldman warwick,r.i. 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f3ad6278f6f314e4b0bst01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 36t Hyperglide cog source?
I notice that your Hilsen has indented chain stays. I don't think I've seen these on this model before. I wonder if that is due to which factory (Waterford?) it was made at. My Saluki (same bike, different head badge) doesn't have them. Neither does the Ram or the Road Standard. In fact the old Maruishi-for-Nashbar and Bridgestone MB-2 in the garage all have smooth (if tapered) stays. I know the crimping is done for clearance in certain sityations, but I like the un-crimped look better. The color scheme of your bike is very nice, btw. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Here's some pics of my recently changed drive-train. I added the HG61 Shimano 12-36t cassette to my Hilsen and went all 9sp indexed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ISO Grid Grey Slickersack and Platrack
Hi Peter. There are a few new Slickersacks available from Riv at a discounted price, but all the Platracks are gone. Best, Harry On Feb 13, 8:30 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Just throwing it out there to see if there are any takers but i was looking to get a slickersack and platrack to commute with my laptop. I currently have a grid grey barsack with F-15 rack and trunsack small, both in grid grey I could trade if there are any takers. I know this is a longshot but missed the rush during the sale and now feel like if I dont jump on this fast I might be out in the cold. Thanks guys and gals. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
I'm curious as well because 13-34 8speed is my preferred cassette, but I have to make it myself. To the best of my knowledge, the only readily available 8 speed with a 13 small cog is the 13-26. There is a 12-32 from I believe Sunrace, and numerous options with 11t small cogs from Shimano, SRAM, et al. dougP On Feb 14, 1:43 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 18:39 -0800, Joe S wrote: I just did a quick search and it appears that there is a 13-34 8-speed. I would like to see a citation for this. I do not believe this is correct. I'm aware of the 7 speed 13-34 K cassette, and Harris sells a custom 9 speed 13-34, but I'm not aware of any 8 speed cassette that begins with a 13T sprocket. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
One more option. If you like the White cranks but not the rings, then check out the DaVinci Cranks. These are actually made by White, but are designed much like the TA, with interchangeable spiders. You can buy the crank and either 110 or 94 spider and put whatever rings you want. The design is low Q, and can be either a dbl or triple. This is what I run on my Ebisu All Purpose and on my Touring Tandem. Nice cranks, US made, less $ than TA. I have done business with daVinci a few times and found them easy to deal with, although like RBW, they keep a tight inventory. http://www.davincitandems.com/ michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qvOUbtR8F0UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
I just noticed that the DaVinci web site now shows the crank with black spiders. Mine are both silver: https://www.me.com/gallery/#100076/IMG_1776 but I don't know if the silver spider is still available. michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vhDZzVR_ph8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
ugh, bad link, http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100076/IMG_1776bgcolor=black -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/z1VNoBwKrzMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drive-Train Chirp
Lubed the pulleys and the pivots. Chirp is gone. Thanks! D.G. On Feb 12, 10:20 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Will address the pulley wheels today and report back! D.G. On Feb 12, 2:31 am, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: I'm going with the pulley wheels. They have to rotate for a brief moment under a lateral load before the chain moves to the selected cog. Wear and/or lack of lube can create the situation for thatchirp. On a group ride last summer a rider had an intermittent suchchirpand disagreed on the pulley wheel, insisting it was deep trouble in his bottom shell. I pulled alongside him on his right and with his permission,squirted his pulley wheels with my water bottle quenching the chirps for the last six or eight miles. ANDY Pittsburgh On Feb 11, 2:32 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loudchirp(like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loudchirp(like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . Nochirpon the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50-32 crank option in silver
I didn't see 94mm spiders on the DaVinci site. But you can go down to a 32T in 104mm BCD 4-arm, which was what the OP was about. I think it's tricky finding 50T rings for 104mm, though. 104mm is a good option for a 48/32 double for sure. *Spiders Available* - Four Arm 104mm - 64mm - Standard 110mm - 74mm -Road 130mm (with 74mm triple option) -34 tooth Spider/Chainring. This is a replaceable one piece spider/34 tooth chainring. It is lighter, less expensive (no need to buy chainrings and chainring bolts) and perfectly concentric. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GNzhe13co-0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ISO Grid Grey Slickersack and Platrack
There's a Platrack on Ebay. Search Rivendell..there's a guy there parting out quite a bit of Rivvy stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/KY7qdhEo89EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ISO Grid Grey Slickersack and Platrack
There are only olive 'sacks on the website, right? I hope so since I wanted a grey but bought olive since I thought it was that or nothing! - Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iAARZ3DZv-4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
I run a Mountain triple 44x32x22 and a SRAM seven speed cassette 12-32 with a spacer...this gives me an 18 -100 inch gear range. I live in the hills and always carry a load (if you know what I mean) so it works for me. I think the new 12-36 nine speed coupled with the Sugino 46x36x24 is a set up to be envied and probably what I'll convert to eventually. On Feb 13, 9:56 am, Joe S ddlttr...@verizon.net wrote: I enjoy checking out the information here daily and have taken advantage of it and contributed once or twice in the past. Now I'm thinking about making some changes to my Atlantis, so I would like to take advantage of the knowledge and experience out there. I've been able to find some information here on this topic in the past, but thought I would ask again for any new insight/experiences, since this will be the first time I've converted cassettes. I like the low gears for loaded touring and am finding I don't use the high ones so much any more on my daily commute. I still ride an old 7-speed hybrid occasionally and think 7 would work even better on the Atlantis. My current setup on my Atlantis is pretty much stock Riv - Campy triple front derailleur Sugino XD2 crank 172.5 46/36/24 Shimano HG-61 9-speed 12-36 cassette Shimano XT hub Shimano XT long cage rear derailleur Bar end shifters - Shimano Dura Ace in friction mode I would like to go to a 7-speed cassette, 13-34; 46/34/22 chain rings I still have a good, workable - for me - gi range with the setup contemplated, but would there be an advantage to going with an 8-speed cassette instead? Other questions - Will this work without changing derailleurs? Would the Silver Shifters work well in this setup? Does the hub require a spacer for the 7-speed cassette? Any other spacers? What about chains for 7-speed?...8-speed? Are there any gotcha's anyone can think of in making this work smoothly? Thank you, Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] TONS of Rivendells at the SFR Two Rock 200k yesterday
Great photo! -JimD On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Aaron wrote: I took my Riv on yesterday's ride as well as last month's Point Reyes Lighthouse 200k. Here's a pic from the lighthouse parking lot. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4OMO6Sc6UXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. PRLH-Hillborne.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, charlie wrote: I think the new 12-36 nine speed coupled with the Sugino 46x36x24 is a set up to be envied and probably what I'll convert to eventually. It is. Great gearing. It's taking over my fleet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drive-Train Chirp
Don't you just love it when a great plan comes together? And it only costs 5 minutes? If it comes back soon, the upper (floating) pulley may be shot. I had similar found out the pulley runs on a bushing. The bushing had worn a shoulder on one side, which I think was what chirped. Mine was intermittent, generally only when shifting, and lube fixed it temporarily. I recall replacing it with an XTR or similar pulley that had a real bearing. dougP On Feb 14, 3:28 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Lubed the pulleys and the pivots. Chirp is gone. Thanks! D.G. On Feb 12, 10:20 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Will address the pulley wheels today and report back! D.G. On Feb 12, 2:31 am, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: I'm going with the pulley wheels. They have to rotate for a brief moment under a lateral load before the chain moves to the selected cog. Wear and/or lack of lube can create the situation for thatchirp. On a group ride last summer a rider had an intermittent suchchirpand disagreed on the pulley wheel, insisting it was deep trouble in his bottom shell. I pulled alongside him on his right and with his permission,squirted his pulley wheels with my water bottle quenching the chirps for the last six or eight miles. ANDY Pittsburgh On Feb 11, 2:32 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Here's a puzzler in the spirit of Car Talk for the mechanical gurus on the post. I get a very loudchirp(like a starling) when I shift into the smaller cogs, and a continuous loudchirp(like a flock of starlings) on the second smallest cog . Nochirpon the larger ones or the smallest. I can't replicate it in my repair stand, but it definitely seems to emanate from the smaller cluster. Cleaned and lubed chain to no avail.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Still gone.
Still holding on hope. If you see it. Let me know. Picture of the flyer. http://flic.kr/p/aVASGg One picture proved that I used the bike to it's fullest. http://flic.kr/p/b8epir -Manny Gone but not forgotten. Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions: 9-speed cassette to 7- or 8-speed switch
I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've used the 11 and 12 tooth cogs on my bikes EVER. Longing for the days of the 14-28/30 5 speed freewheel...wait, that's what's on half my fleet! On Feb 14, 7:39 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, charlie wrote: I think the new 12-36 nine speed coupled with the Sugino 46x36x24 is a set up to be envied and probably what I'll convert to eventually. It is. Great gearing. It's taking over my fleet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 36t Hyperglide cog source?
Waterford - first one in 2009 based on serial number. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: I notice that your Hilsen has indented chain stays. I don't think I've seen these on this model before. I wonder if that is due to which factory (Waterford?) it was made at. My Saluki (same bike, different head badge) doesn't have them. Neither does the Ram or the Road Standard. In fact the old Maruishi-for-Nashbar and Bridgestone MB-2 in the garage all have smooth (if tapered) stays. I know the crimping is done for clearance in certain sityations, but I like the un-crimped look better. The color scheme of your bike is very nice, btw. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Here's some pics of my recently changed drive-train. I added the HG61 Shimano 12-36t cassette to my Hilsen and went all 9sp indexed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Still gone.
Sorry to hear about this Manny. I hope you get her back somehow. On Feb 15, 11:55 am, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Still holding on hope. If you see it. Let me know. Picture of the flyer.http://flic.kr/p/aVASGg One picture proved that I used the bike to it's fullest.http://flic.kr/p/b8epir -Manny Gone but not forgotten. Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
