[RBW] Belated introduction
Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mg_YNP-fq88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns vs. Pasela vs. ??
I've ridden Jack Brown Blues about 6 days/week for around a year with only one flat... a one mm wide wire manage bend around the tread and puncture the sidewall. This bike is my work horse so I'd say they're pretty good tires. I don't have experience with the others but these are fun, cushy, durable and fast. Steven On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:20:35 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Hello All, I am interested in some reviews or insight about Jack Brown tires. I have plenty of experience with high volume 650b tires and not as much first hand knowledge about plumper 700c tires. I ride 700x28 Paselas (both TG and non) on a regular basis. Are Jack Browns a better ride and/or long life than the 32 or 35mm Paselas? Are there other tires that one should consider? Kojacks? GB Cypress? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/w0G2alQQM2gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Steel Bike Show - April 8, 2012 in Orange, CA
Beer and bikes, what's the downside? On 3/14/12, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: David Dan: We have the makings of Riv ride. Let's see if we can pull this off. dougP On Mar 14, 8:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That could be fun. On 3/13/12, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: Hope this isn't too OT, but there's a STEEL bike show coming up in less than a month in Southern California. I hope to attend and maybe we can even gets some Rivendells in the line up! (There were no Rivs in the last show!) Details Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012 Time: Noon Location: Old Orange Brewing Company, 1444 North Batavia, Orange, CA 92867 more info on Torellifan.com I'm cross posting this on BOB and Rawland lists, so sorry if you're reading this more than once! Best, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.”- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Steel Bike Show - April 8, 2012 in Orange, CA
Here's what the first one looked like: http://torellifan.com/torelli-bikes/show-of-steel-bikes-recap/ On 3/14/12, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Beer and bikes, what's the downside? On 3/14/12, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: David Dan: We have the makings of Riv ride. Let's see if we can pull this off. dougP On Mar 14, 8:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That could be fun. On 3/13/12, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote: Hope this isn't too OT, but there's a STEEL bike show coming up in less than a month in Southern California. I hope to attend and maybe we can even gets some Rivendells in the line up! (There were no Rivs in the last show!) Details Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012 Time: Noon Location: Old Orange Brewing Company, 1444 North Batavia, Orange, CA 92867 more info on Torellifan.com I'm cross posting this on BOB and Rawland lists, so sorry if you're reading this more than once! Best, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.”- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Belated introduction
Looking good! Nice that you picked it up directly from the source! On 3/14/12, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mg_YNP-fq88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
For coverage, it will be close. The hardware on the front fender might, or might not clear a 42. Have 700x40 Marathon Duremes on the Sam Hillborne and had to fiddle with the cream longboards to get everything to work. Tried to mount the front fender to the rack yesterday and threw everything out of line. Was able to get it back to normal, but now have a large hole in the top of the fender. And still no attachment to the rack. Sigh. But the fenders should just, barely, eke out coverage. IMO, the silvers are a touch better in that department than the creamboards. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:03:53 PM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bKWRHDswoFcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
Darin, I don't have pictures at hand but have Marathon Supreme 40's (42-622) / Longboards on my Atlantis for almost a year now. Oh. and the back rim is an A719 laced to a White MI5. Previously I used Marathon Plus 47's with Silver SKS. I still have a new set of orphaned 47's if interested ;) I appreciate the sturdiness of the Silver SKS and have them on other bikes but from a functional stand point the Long boards provide better coverage and although not quite as sturdy by compare are plenty sturdy. I like this set up enough that the Supreme's are wearing and I purchased another set for replacement when these demand change. One note is that this setup is for daily commute. I commute about 16 miles daily on surface streets and city roads. I can't opine on fully loaded touring. Finally, I do receive regular compliments about the bike when out and about. My stock response is and it's highly functional I like the fact that everything works well for me and that it's attractive is secondary. I'll try to get some pictures up in the next day or two. I vote for Longboard. Mitch Browne San Luis Obispo, CA On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:03:53 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YFQ4rDRro18J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
Here is a pic of the longboards over 700 x 40 Marathon Duremes: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/wy60R5EEhVK52RCNC89ByPBgKrmLWcThQVl2j-KPz0A?feat=directlink It's tight. i don't think you could get a bigger tire in there, at least with the sidepull brakes. Cantis will give you more room. Jim in Boulder On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rm7jXr7hrJAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike lust.
Tim - Just saw this; thanks. How does the Atlantis look for fenders with the 60s? What are the actual measurements between the fork legs and stays at max tire width? Anyone want to trade a trike for an Atlantis??? Used the Fargo with 35 mm Kojaks to go to Presanctified (ie, reserved Eucharist) liturgy last night -- 21 m rt including stop at PO -- as, with my middle finger knuckle sprained, I can't reliably operate the single right hand brake lever on the Riv with lights. The Fargo handles decently with that wheelset, but it is nothing like the magic of the Rivs. Tangent #2: Cyo R: I done heerd tell that these don't cast a beam far enough for'ard for anything but ambling. I have one on the Fargo and simply aim it high enough to barely catch stop signs a block away: the beam is fine, in fact quite good: long and broad and wider and more squared off than that of the regular Cyo. I chose the R for the Fargo thinking its beam might be better on dirt -- which I think is the case. Not sure I don't prefer the R to the regular. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:30 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 14, 5:19 pm, Tim Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, All I know is the Atlantis. I've got 60mm Big Apples on my 58 right now with plenty of clearance and I've run fairly knobby 2.2s or so. I can look in the am for clearance details with the BAs if you like. I think you would love the Atlantis for everything you do. Regards, Tim On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: So, ye of multiple Riv fat tire bike knowledge: compare ye the Hunq, the Bomb and the Atl and describe the ride differences on- and off-road in excruciating and unmitigated detail. I see that the Bomb takes 60s with room to spare and that the Atl don't; Hunq? Would love to have a Riv to replace the Fargo -- wld even forgo (he he) disk brakes -- but no g-d double tts!! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think the Hunqapillar has replaced the Atlantis as my ultimate goal. I don't know exactly why, maybe it's that extra bit of ruggedness + the Diagatube. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/5043949624/in/pool-1358127@... I know how you feel. On Monday, March 12, 2012 12:48:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/13kc-29ItTkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Belated introduction
Welcome! That Sam is a fine looking bike! Jim in Boulder On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:12:32 AM UTC-6, Steve wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pDjYAzMPgRQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Belated introduction
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:34:13 AM UTC-6, Jim wrote: Welcome! That Sam is a fine looking bike! Jim in Boulder On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:12:32 AM UTC-6, Steve wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7tb9t0pBtH0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Belated introduction
Thanks David and Jim, Living only a few hours away I am very lucky to have been able to make one visit to investigate and one to pick up. The Saturday team rocked. Harry and Vince spent quite a bit of time with me, talking bike/part talk. When I went to pick up, Jay was super helpful, and Keven let me see his bike to make comparisons. Oh how I wish RBW was my LBS :) Steven On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Looking good! Nice that you picked it up directly from the source! On 3/14/12, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mg_YNP-fq88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Looking good! Nice that you picked it up directly from the source! On 3/14/12, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mg_YNP-fq88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CapBmPoVJ8MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Belated introduction
Don't we all... :-) On Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:46:56 AM UTC-7, Steve wrote: Thanks David and Jim, Living only a few hours away I am very lucky to have been able to make one visit to investigate and one to pick up. The Saturday team rocked. Harry and Vince spent quite a bit of time with me, talking bike/part talk. When I went to pick up, Jay was super helpful, and Keven let me see his bike to make comparisons. Oh how I wish RBW was my LBS :) Steven On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Looking good! Nice that you picked it up directly from the source! On 3/14/12, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mg_YNP-fq88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:58:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Looking good! Nice that you picked it up directly from the source! On 3/14/12, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mg_YNP-fq88J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zJa7A3A2xpkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike lust.
Patrick: Hopefully you'll take this in good humor, but the answer to your question Anyone want to trade a trike for an Atlantis??? is the Olde English retort Not bloody likely! dougP On Mar 15, 7:33 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Tim - Just saw this; thanks. How does the Atlantis look for fenders with the 60s? What are the actual measurements between the fork legs and stays at max tire width? Anyone want to trade a trike for an Atlantis??? Used the Fargo with 35 mm Kojaks to go to Presanctified (ie, reserved Eucharist) liturgy last night -- 21 m rt including stop at PO -- as, with my middle finger knuckle sprained, I can't reliably operate the single right hand brake lever on the Riv with lights. The Fargo handles decently with that wheelset, but it is nothing like the magic of the Rivs. Tangent #2: Cyo R: I done heerd tell that these don't cast a beam far enough for'ard for anything but ambling. I have one on the Fargo and simply aim it high enough to barely catch stop signs a block away: the beam is fine, in fact quite good: long and broad and wider and more squared off than that of the regular Cyo. I chose the R for the Fargo thinking its beam might be better on dirt -- which I think is the case. Not sure I don't prefer the R to the regular. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:30 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 14, 5:19 pm, Tim Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, All I know is the Atlantis. I've got 60mm Big Apples on my 58 right now with plenty of clearance and I've run fairly knobby 2.2s or so. I can look in the am for clearance details with the BAs if you like. I think you would love the Atlantis for everything you do. Regards, Tim On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: So, ye of multiple Riv fat tire bike knowledge: compare ye the Hunq, the Bomb and the Atl and describe the ride differences on- and off-road in excruciating and unmitigated detail. I see that the Bomb takes 60s with room to spare and that the Atl don't; Hunq? Would love to have a Riv to replace the Fargo -- wld even forgo (he he) disk brakes -- but no g-d double tts!! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think the Hunqapillar has replaced the Atlantis as my ultimate goal. I don't know exactly why, maybe it's that extra bit of ruggedness + the Diagatube. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/5043949624/in/pool-1358127@... I know how you feel. On Monday, March 12, 2012 12:48:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/13kc-29ItTkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan *does* debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBsdp3jPkTcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: So jinx has me wondering--Homer Hilsen for Bombadil?
It's now discontinued by Burley, it seems, but it's still by far the best of it's kind, in my opinion. You can still find them online for ~$350. When it's time to sell mine, I expect to have no difficulty getting ~$275. The resale value on these things is spectacular. I was under the impression Burley was making them again. A quick Google search shows a current page on the Burley site and plenty of online retailers claim to have stock. -M -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/miNZSQZKqzQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just got a Soma San Marcos
How does that bike feel? The geometry is very similar to the Hunqaillar,I'm wondering if the San Marcos is more like a light road or cross bike. I would think so with the Tange Prestige tubing. Marc On Mar 13, 9:56 am, PatKendall revfirstsh...@gmail.com wrote: I am delighted to say that I just purchased my first Rivendell bicycle. Dick Denning and his father, Dick Senior, with the Country Bike Shop, Celina, Ohio, met me part way (I live in Memphis, Tennessee) to deliver the bike. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51857171@N04/sets/72157629209094990/ The entire process has been great. Dick was on top of things from beginning to end--even though I threw him a curve by switching my frame choice in the middle of things. My wife, who joined me for the pickup and fitting, was amazed at Dick's enthusiasm and expertise. (I was also, although my calls and emails had prepared me for our meeting.) Dick and his dad were great. I can't recommend them highly enough. (No, I don't own stock in the company.) :-) I've only had one ride so far--about 35 miles. Can't wait to get back on the bike. More later. I just wanted to get this post and photos up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike lust.
It's funny but the two bikes you picked, the dark green Atlantis and the Orange all rounder have both been on my favorites list for along time... ~mike On Monday, March 12, 2012 12:48:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/88057131@N00/5956828630/sizes/l/in/faves-42027576@N00/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xJmmhbCufKIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Belated introduction
Hi Steve, A belated welcome to the world of car-free Riv-ness. I'm car-free too but I ride a cargo bike most of the time. The Riv is my sports car that doesn't get driven as much as it should. Yer Sam's a beauty. The cream fenders go great with the green. I think you should get out and take those Monterey Bay Bike Trail pics this weekend. If nothing else it'll remind those of us west of the Cascades what sunny and warm looks like. --Smitty On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:12:32 PM UTC-7, Steve wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SPJQ8tTwmBoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large Sized Gunnar Sport FS in Denver
Well. I have close up shots and the paint and parts are very scratched and dinged. I'm glad I ride with fenders. I was thinking I could buy it, strip the parts and sell them and have a very inexpensive frame but in Seattle I would need to get it powder coated. It's that bad. It's still a great deal but not with shipping. Someone in Denver will be very happy with it. - Ryan P.S. Brifters just seem like such a bad idea. They are so expensive and get so beat up so easily. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:41:11 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You decide on the giving it away route, be sure to drop me a line! On 3/14/12, eflayer e@att.net wrote: i still have a 60 cm for sale. unfortunately, i am not giving mine awya: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2901779451.html On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:15:29 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/2901190469.html No affiliation w/ seller/have never seen the bike, I just like the Gunnar Sports a LOT and this is a really well priced one in a size that's hard to find. If it was a 60cm it would be mine right now!!! The Sports are pretty darn close to Rambouillet/Romulus but w/ threadless and tig welded. Good stuff! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/27L6LGuXqMgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5PmZOFDvmXUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Large Sized Gunnar Sport FS in Denver
It was a worthy attempt! On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:58:00 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote: Well. I have close up shots and the paint and parts are very scratched and dinged. I'm glad I ride with fenders. I was thinking I could buy it, strip the parts and sell them and have a very inexpensive frame but in Seattle I would need to get it powder coated. It's that bad. It's still a great deal but not with shipping. Someone in Denver will be very happy with it. - Ryan P.S. Brifters just seem like such a bad idea. They are so expensive and get so beat up so easily. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:41:11 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You decide on the giving it away route, be sure to drop me a line! On 3/14/12, eflayer e@att.net wrote: i still have a 60 cm for sale. unfortunately, i am not giving mine awya: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2901779451.html On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:15:29 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/2901190469.html No affiliation w/ seller/have never seen the bike, I just like the Gunnar Sports a LOT and this is a really well priced one in a size that's hard to find. If it was a 60cm it would be mine right now!!! The Sports are pretty darn close to Rambouillet/Romulus but w/ threadless and tig welded. Good stuff! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/27L6LGuXqMgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xGCxBRA21K0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike lust.
Codswollop! Everyone wants a trike! Patrick Moore iPhone On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:05 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: Hopefully you'll take this in good humor, but the answer to your question Anyone want to trade a trike for an Atlantis??? is the Olde English retort Not bloody likely! dougP On Mar 15, 7:33 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Tim - Just saw this; thanks. How does the Atlantis look for fenders with the 60s? What are the actual measurements between the fork legs and stays at max tire width? Anyone want to trade a trike for an Atlantis??? Used the Fargo with 35 mm Kojaks to go to Presanctified (ie, reserved Eucharist) liturgy last night -- 21 m rt including stop at PO -- as, with my middle finger knuckle sprained, I can't reliably operate the single right hand brake lever on the Riv with lights. The Fargo handles decently with that wheelset, but it is nothing like the magic of the Rivs. Tangent #2: Cyo R: I done heerd tell that these don't cast a beam far enough for'ard for anything but ambling. I have one on the Fargo and simply aim it high enough to barely catch stop signs a block away: the beam is fine, in fact quite good: long and broad and wider and more squared off than that of the regular Cyo. I chose the R for the Fargo thinking its beam might be better on dirt -- which I think is the case. Not sure I don't prefer the R to the regular. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:30 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: On Mar 14, 5:19 pm, Tim Whalen whalen...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, All I know is the Atlantis. I've got 60mm Big Apples on my 58 right now with plenty of clearance and I've run fairly knobby 2.2s or so. I can look in the am for clearance details with the BAs if you like. I think you would love the Atlantis for everything you do. Regards, Tim On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: So, ye of multiple Riv fat tire bike knowledge: compare ye the Hunq, the Bomb and the Atl and describe the ride differences on- and off-road in excruciating and unmitigated detail. I see that the Bomb takes 60s with room to spare and that the Atl don't; Hunq? Would love to have a Riv to replace the Fargo -- wld even forgo (he he) disk brakes -- but no g-d double tts!! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I think the Hunqapillar has replaced the Atlantis as my ultimate goal. I don't know exactly why, maybe it's that extra bit of ruggedness + the Diagatube. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/5043949624/in/pool-1358127@... I know how you feel. On Monday, March 12, 2012 12:48:32 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/13kc-29ItTkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns vs. Pasela vs. ??
A little late here but, I gotta say; The Green Jack Browns are the ticket. I've ridden Pasela Tour guards for years, and the Browns felt like a breath of fresh air. IME they can be run softer than the TGs without the squirmies that Aaron alludes to. I bought two pairs when they came out and three of the four are still rideable. I did add the Panaracer kevlar tire liners when new. Definitely got my money's worth. Another one to consider are the Grand Bois 700x30 Cypres, though that might be too skinny for this bunch. Phil B On Mar 14, 11:29 pm, Steve skakid8...@gmail.com wrote: I've ridden Jack Brown Blues about 6 days/week for around a year with only one flat... a one mm wide wire manage bend around the tread and puncture the sidewall. This bike is my work horse so I'd say they're pretty good tires. I don't have experience with the others but these are fun, cushy, durable and fast. Steven On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:20:35 PM UTC-7, JL wrote: Hello All, I am interested in some reviews or insight about Jack Brown tires. I have plenty of experience with high volume 650b tires and not as much first hand knowledge about plumper 700c tires. I ride 700x28 Paselas (both TG and non) on a regular basis. Are Jack Browns a better ride and/or long life than the 32 or 35mm Paselas? Are there other tires that one should consider? Kojacks? GB Cypress? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
If that were the case then steel leaf springs would always return to their original shape even after years of use. If Jan were able to to a before and after laser check of his 120,000 mile frame, he might be surprised. RGZ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan does debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBsdp3jPkTcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: new Bombadil clearance
WOW. That is a spectacular Bombadil!! And boy, they DID open it up a lot! Congrats on a stellar machine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/13NvohUfKgAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
I associate sagging leaf springs with plastic deformation and creep, not a reduction in Young's Modulus. Materials Science wasn't my major, though. The only studies I've seen that show Young's Modulus declining over time is at really high temperatures. On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:22:37 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote: If that were the case then steel leaf springs would always return to their original shape even after years of use. If Jan were able to to a before and after laser check of his 120,000 mile frame, he might be surprised. RGZ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan does debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBsdp3jPkTcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OQYfZvj79e0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
So this dude Young... is his Modulus a single or double TT? My unscientific observation is that I've ridden my wife's Stumpy in 1985 and in 2012... I can't feel any difference in how the frame flexes Still rides great. Bobby Materials Science NOT my bag Birmingham On Mar 15, 4:26 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I associate sagging leaf springs with plastic deformation and creep, not a reduction in Young's Modulus. Materials Science wasn't my major, though. The only studies I've seen that show Young's Modulus declining over time is at really high temperatures. On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:22:37 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote: If that were the case then steel leaf springs would always return to their original shape even after years of use. If Jan were able to to a before and after laser check of his 120,000 mile frame, he might be surprised. RGZ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan does debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBsdp3jPkTcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
Well, materials science WAS my major, and Jan is right on the bean in my opinion. I have some bike experience to back it up as well, as my pre-riv bike was a fillet-brazed Schwinn that I bought new in 1971, and still have today. No difference in the ride that i can see. The one way a frame COULD get flexier, is if you get a fatigue crack growing in a highly stressed joint, that will increase compliance and ultimately fail completely. So, if you ever do seem to think your bike isn't as stiff as you remember, better do a thorough check of the frame. The issue with leaf springs is that they operate very close to (and sometimes a bit past) the yield strength of the material, and over time and a few potholes you can permanently deform them. Steel bicycle frames don't operate anywhere near yield. Jim in Boulder On Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:25:53 AM UTC-6, William wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan *does* debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AsTAEQ4EBSkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
Well, one might not be able to ride one's bombadil forever, but certainly someone or other will be able to ride it forever. It's a bike for multiple geological ages, let alone lifetimes :) On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:25:53 PM UTC-4, William wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan *does* debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RZXDW9W0PgMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bleriot Love
First, the setting... I commute by bike. Commute bike is Bleriot, all done up with SS couplers, generator hub/light, Honjo fenders, sweet new Racktime rack, little front rack, panniers... I work at (but not FOR) Nike; my desk is in a building a long block off the main campus, about 1.5 miles from where I need to be to meet with my usability session participants. Clearly, I just ride over. Even if I didn't have my bike, Nike has a fleet of bicycles just for the purpose of moving one's self around. Bike parking is dead easy - anywhere you want, as long as it is not in the way. I take my bike everywhere I go, and NEVER have to lock it up. Today - usability session in the Mia Hamm building. Bike is parked along the outside window wall; I'm a few cubicles away. Toward the end of the session, some random stranger pokes his head in Is that your bike? Wow!. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTT - Black Swift Titanium for B17 titanium?
Hi All, I've got an excellent condition black titanium swift and am looking to trade it for a similar condition black or brown B17 titanium. If anyone's interested please let me know! Thanks, gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5bSY5kzBrIsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
Popping a fresh set of wheels onto an old bike can re-juvenate that new bike snap that Jan mentions. I'm not worried about wearing out my Atlantis in this lifetime. dougP On Mar 15, 4:28 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Well, one might not be able to ride one's bombadil forever, but certainly someone or other will be able to ride it forever. It's a bike for multiple geological ages, let alone lifetimes :) On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:25:53 PM UTC-4, William wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan *does* debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:05:41 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote: Well, materials science WAS my major, and Jan is right on the bean in my opinion. I have some bike experience to back it up as well, as my pre-riv bike was a fillet-brazed Schwinn that I bought new in 1971, and still have today. No difference in the ride that i can see. The one way a frame COULD get flexier, is if you get a fatigue crack growing in a highly stressed joint, that will increase compliance and ultimately fail completely. So, if you ever do seem to think your bike isn't as stiff as you remember, better do a thorough check of the frame. The issue with leaf springs is that they operate very close to (and sometimes a bit past) the yield strength of the material, and over time and a few potholes you can permanently deform them. Steel bicycle frames don't operate anywhere near yield. Jim in Boulder Not in 'materials science', but grad work in structural geology, and engineering geology, a lot of what we dealt with was in rock deformation (albeit not metal), stress versus strain, plastic deformation versus elastic deformation, tensile strength, etc.; my father was the one who was the machinist (and, aside from bicycles, another hobby of mine is dealing w/ rebuilding old Rovers, which involves working over sheet aluminum, annealing it, etc.), and also taught me a lot. With steel, there's an amount that you can bend it, within the elastic range, where it'll snap back. It can do this repeatedly, over and over. It's when you pass that point, into plastic deformation, that it won't recover. Aluminum, moves from elastic to plastic with much less movement; it's more 'brittle', or, sometimes described as fatigue. Steel, if you don't take it into the plastic range, just keep it within the elastic zone, and it'll remain flexible, and pretty much unphased. Steel tubing is designed to prevent the plastic deformation. Chromoly is alloyed to improve the modulus of elasticity, which would be into Jim's field. Anywho... if it's a good steel alloy, without any manufacturing defects, competently formed into appropriate tubing, skillfully assembled into a frame, and is painted/protected from corrosion, not neglected or left out in the rain for years on end, doesn't suffer any accidents that dent the tubing, well, it should be just fine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9amibSfAS5gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
Hah! -JImD On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:28 PM, newenglandbike wrote: Well, one might not be able to ride one's bombadil forever, but certainly someone or other will be able to ride it forever. It's a bike for multiple geological ages, let alone lifetimes :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
On Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:57:49 PM UTC-4, JimD wrote: Hah! -JImD On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:28 PM, newenglandbike wrote: Well, one might not be able to ride one's bombadil forever, but certainly someone or other will be able to ride it forever. It's a bike for multiple geological ages, let alone lifetimes :) Double Ha!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/t6cuOOMG_usJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
I guess both color and size,...but the consensus seems to be that the longboards will work and Im planning on running with the silvers. Other choice are the Planet Bike Cascadias I have on my Sam, but I think I'll keep them there as I re-build that bike. I'm going to be commuting and touring on the Atlantis. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with your suggestions always appreciated. D.G. On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:03:53 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: My build is basically set with the parts currently on my Sam (with the exception of the Phil Wood BB) and is typical Riv: Sugino cranks, Nitto Noodles, Nitto Big Rack rear, Mini-Front, Brooks B17, etc. I plan on running the 700 X 42 Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on Mavic A719s. S, my question for the group is Am I Making A Decision I Will Regret Forever if I run the silver 45 Longboard Fenders on this baby? My wife has the cream longboards on her green LHT and they seem to provide adequate coverage with the stock Conti 37s. Pics with
Re: [RBW] Bleriot Love
I've seen Lynne's bike and I say wow! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: First, the setting... I commute by bike. Commute bike is Bleriot, all done up with SS couplers, generator hub/light, Honjo fenders, sweet new Racktime rack, little front rack, panniers... I work at (but not FOR) Nike; my desk is in a building a long block off the main campus, about 1.5 miles from where I need to be to meet with my usability session participants. Clearly, I just ride over. Even if I didn't have my bike, Nike has a fleet of bicycles just for the purpose of moving one's self around. Bike parking is dead easy - anywhere you want, as long as it is not in the way. I take my bike everywhere I go, and NEVER have to lock it up. Today - usability session in the Mia Hamm building. Bike is parked along the outside window wall; I'm a few cubicles away. Toward the end of the session, some random stranger pokes his head in Is that your bike? Wow!. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
On Mar 15, 2012, at 12:25 PM, William wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan does debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ Is this still a popular notion in the cycling community? I haven't heard anyone claim this in years, having been debunked many times already. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jan Heine says I can ride my Bombadil forever!
Creep can be a cause of plastic deformation, but it tends to make materials stiffer through a mechanism called dislocation pile-up. If that is happening in a steel frame, it should become stiffer over time, not flexier. Of course, if there are micro-cracks, then material strength is less relevant, as the cracks can make the frame seem flexy. On Mar 15, 3:26 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I associate sagging leaf springs with plastic deformation and creep, not a reduction in Young's Modulus. Materials Science wasn't my major, though. The only studies I've seen that show Young's Modulus declining over time is at really high temperatures. On Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:22:37 PM UTC-7, z-man wrote: If that were the case then steel leaf springs would always return to their original shape even after years of use. If Jan were able to to a before and after laser check of his 120,000 mile frame, he might be surprised. RGZ On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, that's not a direct quote. He didn't say that specifically, but in today's blog post, Jan does debunk the notion that steel frames go soft with use. They don't. You can't break in a steel bike and make it get more flexible for comfort and planing, and you can't wear out a steel frame in terms of stiffness. It doesn't get flexier with use. You might break it with use, but you won't make it flexier. Good read and uncontroversial for many of us, but definitely counter to the popular notion in the cycling community in general. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/frames-going-soft/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TBsdp3jPkTcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650b tires on the bay...lots for little it seems.
not my ad. but i noticed it and it seems like a great deal for the 650b crowd. all 3 sets for that price! * http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-pairs-of-650b-tires-Schwalbe-fatty-middy-Nifty-Swifty-Panaracer-/330702405513?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4cff663f89 *http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-pairs-of-650b-tires-Schwalbe-fatty-middy-Nifty-Swifty-Panaracer-/330702405513?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item4cff663f89 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/exqJUgsE6ugJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Atlantis Frame is Shipping!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/6517875549/in/set-72157628434893689 700x40's w/ longboards on 61cm Atlantis Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T2c2K6mgGUsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Browns vs. Pasela vs. ??
I haven't tried Kojaks. Must resist the urge to add another tire to my pile. I have been riding the JB Greens and love them. If they are slow they don't seem to bother ex-world class racers http://www.bikeradar.com/gallery/article/pro-bike-andy-hampstens-cycles-strada-bianca-ti-16577?img=1pn=pro-bike-andy-hampstens-cycles-strada-bianca-timlc=news%2Farticle I took my JB Green shod Legolas out for a flattish 40 miler to sunset this evening. It was a great ride and the tires were pure pleasure on chip seal and bumps. Here is a picture of the Legolas from last spring http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/5598979996/in/set-72157607471577085/ I decided on this ride this would be the bike for the Ride the Rockies in early June, subject change of course. :) I thought I would add some cream Longboards for the showers that occur nearly every year. On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:20:35 PM UTC-6, JL wrote: Hello All, I am interested in some reviews or insight about Jack Brown tires. I have plenty of experience with high volume 650b tires and not as much first hand knowledge about plumper 700c tires. I ride 700x28 Paselas (both TG and non) on a regular basis. Are Jack Browns a better ride and/or long life than the 32 or 35mm Paselas? Are there other tires that one should consider? Kojacks? GB Cypress? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/unTbLuu34wAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
