[RBW] Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Scotty
Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started 
decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and 
whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I 
just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was 
effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to 
lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity 
of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare 
essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for 
locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... 
Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble 
is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and 
more fun. 

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Re: [RBW] Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread robert zeidler
Good move. Something I often notice on Cyclofiend is that the bikes look
like platforms for accessory mfg's.
Somtimes less is more, and lighter is always better.

On Monday, March 26, 2012, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote:
 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately
started decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags
and whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided
that I just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even
think I was effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I
couldnt seem to lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the
load capacity of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the
the bare essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag
for locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc...
Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble
is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and
more fun.

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[RBW] Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
A few years ago, a couple came into the shop with matching new Atlantises, both 
decked out in matching bag kits from Berthoud, I think. They were just out for 
a day ride, so the extravagant baggage was excessive. If they like it that way, 
I get it, but it was over-the-top to me. I think it was probably a similar case 
of the new bike excitement fueling a bag-buying spree. If they kept riding the 
bikes, I assume they eventually reached an equilibrium bag configuration that 
was somewhat less comprehensive.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Leslie
I started w/ a med/lg Acorn bag on the Ram;  I downsized it to a RBW tool 
roll, and have moved the Acorn to the Bomba...

I know, eventually, I'm going to need more for the Bomba, when it comes 
into its camping roll, but for daily wear, the Acorn's more than enough, 
for my own needs...

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[RBW] Re: What eye protection do y'all use when riding?

2012-03-26 Thread Ginz
Smith Slider series sunglasses.  The lenses are interchangeable.  I
used to keep two pairs -- one with the dark lenses installed and one
with yellow or clear for the woods.  Then, I would eventually lose the
second pair.  At this point, I'm wearing whatever sporty plastic
sunglasses I have at the moment and I'm looking for inexpensive, clear
eye protection for the woods and the night. I want something better
than the hardware store glasses for power tool usage but not as pricey
as Gargoyles, etc.

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[RBW] Re: SimpleOne

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Pesce
My new-to-me Quickbeam had a similar effect on me. My LHT is still the 
hauler/grocery bike, and my Sam is still the long-rides-with-hills bike, 
but I commute mostly on the QB now, and try to find more and more reasons 
to ride it other times too.

My QB is set up with alba bars, and there's just something about the 
relaxed feel of my riding position combined with the simplicity of the one 
gear that makes it the most enjoyable ride..

-Pete in CT

On Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:27:32 PM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:

 After only a week of riding my SimpleOne, I find it is fast becoming my 
 favorite bike. I cannot pin down what quality it has that gives me such a 
 joy to ride. I own a Rambouillet and a Surly LHT and it would be easy to 
 make the argument that either one of those is way more practical for my 
 purposes than the SimpleOne. I do love both of those bikes and would not 
 easily give them up, but the SimpleOne has become my new best friend. I am 
 grateful that I bought one before they disappeared.

 David Spranger


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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Philip Williamson
Ha! I was just looking at the Quickbeam, feeling the same way. I think it's 
Spring. I'm tempted to trade the dynamo hub and S3X for regular fixed 
wheels and lighter tires, and keep the basket OR the bag, but not both. 
Maybe when i move back to California. 

 Philip


On Monday, March 26, 2012 3:07:58 AM UTC-7, Scotty wrote:

 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started 
 decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and 
 whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I 
 just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was 
 effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to 
 lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity 
 of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare 
 essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for 
 locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... 
 Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble 
 is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and 
 more fun. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Philip Williamson
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ha! I was just looking at the Quickbeam, feeling the same way. I think it's
 Spring. I'm tempted to trade the dynamo hub and S3X for regular fixed wheels
 and lighter tires, and keep the basket OR the bag, but not both. Maybe when
 i move back to California.


I have the hilsen outfitted kinda light. Just the mark's rack and the
little baileyworks rack bag for it and a the brand-v keven's bag off
the saddle.
The keven's bag carries the toolkit, tubes, etc

The front bag is personal items.

The rom has a basket on the front and a tool roll under the seat. The
basket normally doesn't carry much but my shoulder bag and a lock
since I use the rom for a lot of errands recently.

The lotus has a rear rack on it which I put in a grocery-bag pannier
on one side. and nothing else. though I must admit I do end up
dropping random things in there. When you have that open basket on the
back it's easy to just drop a pkg in there on the way and not really
think about it.

The only bike which seems over-bagged to me sometimes is our tandem.
The only problem is that, invariably, when I go out on the tandem with
the stoker we end up picking up more stuff than we anticipated and the
bags are full on the ride home. Most of the time they are full with
things like beer or milk or books. But still, necessary items :)

I do have lights on just about all of the bikes - so I've found the
small mark's rack to be a great place as, if nothing else, a light
mount :)

what crosses the line to too much?

-sv

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[RBW] OMG

2012-03-26 Thread ccanter
http://rivibike.com/

Scared the jeebers outa me.

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Re: [RBW] OMG

2012-03-26 Thread Peter Morgano
Haha, but dude, they have a picture of Carbon Fiber on the main page, it
must be awesome.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:47 AM, ccanter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://rivibike.com/

 Scared the jeebers outa me.

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[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop

2012-03-26 Thread David T.


...I frankly think a big barrier to
community is the dork factor that comes out.  I'm not talking bike
nerd
stuff - but seriously wonky dorky vehicular cyclists (often men) who
are
just turn-offs to so many new riders. 

Could you give an example of a dorky cyclist? I am starting to worry
now that if I look a little bit dorky, I might be turning off
potential cyclists. Am I part of the problem???

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[RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-26 Thread David T.


And I am *NEVER* going to get into an argument/shouting match with a
 motorist at a traffic light.

This sounds like an excellent policy, but seriously, how do you do it?
If someone honks at you and you are both sitting there, how do you
manage not to turn around and say a few choice words? I don't ask this
facetiously. What is your secret?

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Re: [RBW] OMG

2012-03-26 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Ha ha! I thought it was a brilliant April Fool's joke by the Riv gang
(perhaps in a collabo with BikeSnobNYC) until I realized it was
rivibike.cominstead of
rivbike.com.

- David G, Madison WI


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 http://rivibike.com/

 Scared the jeebers outa me.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting home on the Saluki raises bike etiquette question!

2012-03-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 09:31 -0700, David T. wrote:
 
 And I am *NEVER* going to get into an argument/shouting match with a
  motorist at a traffic light.
 
 This sounds like an excellent policy, but seriously, how do you do it?
 If someone honks at you and you are both sitting there, how do you
 manage not to turn around and say a few choice words? I don't ask this
 facetiously. What is your secret?

Say what?  If you want to insult me, young fella, you're going to have
to speak up...
;-)




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[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread Earl Grey
The honey B17 Special on my 2009 Sam now has 2.5 years on it (and
maybe 4000 miles?), and seems ready for a bit of tightening, as the
sag is getting quite noticeable. I remember thinking it took a while
to break in, at least 500-1000 miles (I am around 170 lbs). I have a
new brown B17 Titanium on my 2011 rSogn, and it seems to be more
comfortable right out of the box, though it hasn't broken in (changed
shape) noticeably yet, after perhaps 400 miles. The plain black B17 on
my tandem, which has been there since 2008 and a few thousand miles
still doesn't really seem broken in, but is reasonably comfortable.

Has someone come up with a standard for when to tighten Brooks, as
overtightening seems to be the surest way to kill one? It would be
easy to measure the sag relative to a straight line (string) from nose
to tail, so it would be nice to have a ball park figure, i.e. if more
than 2 cm of sag, tighten until reduced to 1cm.

Cheers,

Gernot


On Mar 26, 3:57 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just completed a 200k on a Specialized Avatar. 6'6, 230. Supreme comfort.
 I'm pretty sore but not where I sit.
 Plus I drove home with the bike on the roof rack, in a pretty good rain. No
 worries about it getting ruined.
 Just sayin'

 On Sunday, March 25, 2012, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd have loved to bring my opinion and say how bad my brooks felt under

 my butt for miles and miles but some bastard saved me from the pain of this
 useless hype and stole it downtown SF while i was at the movie theater for
 Tintin with the kid... I wish long long miles of butt pain to the one who  
 inheritated it...

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[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread Ryan Ray
I'm 6 ft 6 195 lbs and mine broke in too fast. It was slightly 
uncomfortable for about a day or two then really nice for about a year and 
just now is too soft for me.

I blame the Brooks saddle proof stuff and living in Seattle. The second I 
take off my saddle cover it starts raining every time.

Next saddle I won't proof at all and I will keep the serfas stretchy cover 
on all the time. It kind of looks like an Avocet and it only sightly less 
comfortable then riding bare.

- Ryan




On Saturday, March 24, 2012 3:07:06 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std at the 
 beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a 
 Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it a go for 
 a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept track of 
 break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free, although 
 they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std is a 
 wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't super 
 pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind of a 
 racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long chain stay 
 Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride.

 Bruce


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Re: [RBW] Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Good for you. I keep even my errand Riv relatively light: the rack can
hold large and small Ortliebs added to carry over 30 lb of groceries
at need (I do have other load carriers) but I like to have it light
for other rides.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote:
 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started
 decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and
 whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I
 just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was
 effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to
 lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity of
 a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare
 essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for locks
 and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... Gone! I
 swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble is gone
 too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and more
 fun.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Mojo
Spring cleaning? I like changing a few things on my bike to fit my mood and 
the season. But Scott, you gotta put the bell back on! And all of my bikes 
have one good size bag such as a Little Joe or a Carradice Barley. In the 
cold season they always have some clothes in them, that have been shed or 
carried as insurance. In the summer they often ride empty, but at times 
carry home a treat from the coffe shop, or a branch that may become a 
slingshot, etc. I just don't find a Barley overwhelming on a bike, but a 
Banana bag feels confining. Even my mountain bike carries a trunk bag so I 
can pick up some of the trash that gets left along my local trails.

On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:07:58 AM UTC-6, Scotty wrote:

 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started 
 decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and 
 whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I 
 just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was 
 effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to 
 lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity 
 of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare 
 essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for 
 locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... 
 Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble 
 is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and 
 more fun. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-26 Thread Randall Rupp
I'm using it on two bikes, both with Shimano LX long cage rapid rise rear
derailleurs.  Works fine.  For the front I found that the Powershift (not
Ultrashift) worked ok.  It can make your head hurt trying to figure out
what Campy is doing year to year with PowerShift, UltraShift, and even
group to group.  But Ergos are nice, that's the only reason I did it.


On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 On my tandem, I'm using a older (M952) XTR long cage derailleur and XTR
 12-32 cassette. shifts like a dream.

 ~mike


 On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:43:33 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:

 On Mar 24, 8:34 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:
  We did a 10--8 Shimergo conversion recently. If we set it up to
 shift in the middle of the cassette, indexing was suboptimal at the top and
 bottom of the range. The customer brought it back to us several times for
 fine-tuning before giving up on the idea. Maybe I missed some subtle nuance
 to making it work flawlessly, but in my experience it only kinda works.
 Probably voids any warranty.

 What kind of cassette/derailer, Jim?  Just curious.  I have the best
 results with a short-cage (Ultegra), currently shifting a 12-30t on a
 single ring set-up.  I also get really smooth precise shifting with a
 medium cage XTR rapid-rise (which I actually like for the ergo levers
 - lets me shift to higher gears from the drops, and sweep up to lower
 gears with a single big push of the thumb).  anyway, just wondering if
 longer cages are more finicky for shimergo.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Jim
I put a Nitto rack and a large saddlesack on the back of my Homer, and the 
platrack/slickersack combo on the front.  I'm not going back, this bike 
gets used mainly for commuting and errands, so surplus storage is a real 
blessing.  In combination with public transportation, Homer has replaced a 
car at our house and, well, cars need trunks!  Maybe i'll change it up if i 
start doing longer rides, but those opportunities haven't presented 
themselves yet.

Jim in Boulder

On Monday, March 26, 2012 11:37:22 AM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:

 Spring cleaning? I like changing a few things on my bike to fit my mood 
 and the season. But Scott, you gotta put the bell back on! And all of my 
 bikes have one good size bag such as a Little Joe or a Carradice Barley. In 
 the cold season they always have some clothes in them, that have been shed 
 or carried as insurance. In the summer they often ride empty, but at times 
 carry home a treat from the coffe shop, or a branch that may become a 
 slingshot, etc. I just don't find a Barley overwhelming on a bike, but a 
 Banana bag feels confining. Even my mountain bike carries a trunk bag so I 
 can pick up some of the trash that gets left along my local trails.

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:07:58 AM UTC-6, Scotty wrote:

 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately 
 started decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags 
 and whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided 
 that I just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even 
 think I was effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I 
 couldnt seem to lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the 
 load capacity of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the 
 the bare essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag 
 for locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... 
 Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble 
 is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and 
 more fun. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread Bruce Baker
I also have a B17 Special on my Sam and I would say no less than 500
miles.  Probably have about 2000 on it at present

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

 The honey B17 Special on my 2009 Sam now has 2.5 years on it (and
 maybe 4000 miles?), and seems ready for a bit of tightening, as the
 sag is getting quite noticeable. I remember thinking it took a while
 to break in, at least 500-1000 miles (I am around 170 lbs). I have a
 new brown B17 Titanium on my 2011 rSogn, and it seems to be more
 comfortable right out of the box, though it hasn't broken in (changed
 shape) noticeably yet, after perhaps 400 miles. The plain black B17 on
 my tandem, which has been there since 2008 and a few thousand miles
 still doesn't really seem broken in, but is reasonably comfortable.

 Has someone come up with a standard for when to tighten Brooks, as
 overtightening seems to be the surest way to kill one? It would be
 easy to measure the sag relative to a straight line (string) from nose
 to tail, so it would be nice to have a ball park figure, i.e. if more
 than 2 cm of sag, tighten until reduced to 1cm.

 Cheers,

 Gernot


 On Mar 26, 3:57 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just completed a 200k on a Specialized Avatar. 6'6, 230. Supreme
 comfort.
  I'm pretty sore but not where I sit.
  Plus I drove home with the bike on the roof rack, in a pretty good rain.
 No
  worries about it getting ruined.
  Just sayin'
 
  On Sunday, March 25, 2012, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'd have loved to bring my opinion and say how bad my brooks felt under
 
  my butt for miles and miles but some bastard saved me from the pain of
 this
  useless hype and stole it downtown SF while i was at the movie theater
 for
  Tintin with the kid... I wish long long miles of butt pain to the one
 who  inheritated it...
 
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[RBW] Quick question about Tektro CR720 Replacement Pads

2012-03-26 Thread Zack
Which Yokozuna brake pads fit the Tektro CR720?

I believe it's the threaded version of these: 
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpm1.htm

But I am not sure!  

Anyone know for certain?

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[RBW] Re: Quick question about Tektro CR720 Replacement Pads

2012-03-26 Thread David Spranger
Yes, those would work. You can also just get the insert for the cartridges 
that come with the CR720s:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpr2.htm

On Monday, March 26, 2012 2:37:00 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

 Which Yokozuna brake pads fit the Tektro CR720?

 I believe it's the threaded version of these:  
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpm1.htm

 But I am not sure!  

 Anyone know for certain?


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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Michael Hechmer
This makes sense to me.  If you do road riding and can afford more than one 
bike it makes sense to have one station wagon and one sport.  However I 
have found having a small front rack (mine have small pieces of handlebars 
mounted to the front for lights) and an SQR release on the seat post covers 
about 99% of my riding.  I can mount my Acorn on the front for very light 
loads or go with either  Barley or Long Flap on any of my bikes.  I have a 
nice rear rack for my Ebisu but last year it sat in the basement waiting to 
be needed.  I will put it back on this year, along with a basket, and try 
to teach Sam, our mini dachsund, to ride in it.  The Rambouillet always 
travel light.

Michael

  

On Monday, March 26, 2012 6:07:58 AM UTC-4, Scotty wrote:

 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started 
 decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and 
 whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I 
 just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was 
 effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to 
 lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity 
 of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare 
 essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for 
 locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... 
 Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble 
 is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and 
 more fun. 

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[RBW] Re: Quick question about Tektro CR720 Replacement Pads

2012-03-26 Thread Mojo
I like the inserts. They are quick and easy to insert and you don't have to 
readjust your pads. And you are reusing the Tektro frames and not just 
throwing them away (or in the parts box which for me often is the same 
thing).

On Monday, March 26, 2012 12:45:08 PM UTC-6, David Spranger wrote:

 Yes, those would work. You can also just get the insert for the cartridges 
 that come with the CR720s:
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpr2.htm

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 2:37:00 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

 Which Yokozuna brake pads fit the Tektro CR720?

 I believe it's the threaded version of these:  
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpm1.htm

 But I am not sure!  

 Anyone know for certain?



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[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone X0-3 55cm

2012-03-26 Thread jinxed


Bumping this up. Lots of questions and interest...no takers.

To clarify, this will come with the pictured cockpit AND with the 
additional mustache bar, barend shifters, and a set of brake levers. I may 
have a dirt drop style stem too to go with it.

hit me up!

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[RBW] Re: Quick question about Tektro CR720 Replacement Pads

2012-03-26 Thread Zack
solid, thanks guys!  I got the inserts.

On Monday, March 26, 2012 3:00:34 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote:

 I like the inserts. They are quick and easy to insert and you don't have 
 to readjust your pads. And you are reusing the Tektro frames and not just 
 throwing them away (or in the parts box which for me often is the same 
 thing).

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 12:45:08 PM UTC-6, David Spranger wrote:

 Yes, those would work. You can also just get the insert for the 
 cartridges that come with the CR720s:
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpr2.htm

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 2:37:00 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

 Which Yokozuna brake pads fit the Tektro CR720?

 I believe it's the threaded version of these:  
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpm1.htm

 But I am not sure!  

 Anyone know for certain?



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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread charlie
I have my SimpleOne set up with a banana bag and that works okay in
the warmer months or when I don't plan on taking off layers. My long
range bike is currently my Long Haul Trucker outfitted with a
Carradice Nelson and generator lighting system. Its my go anywhere,
anytime and any weather, bike. I think however that I may put a front
rack on the SO and use a simple drawstring stuff sack with bungees for
the odd rain jacket or whatever. The stuff sack thing seems very
practical and flexible and still keeps the weight down and clutter
minimalised.

On Mar 26, 3:07 am, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote:
 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started
 decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and
 whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I
 just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was
 effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to
 lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity
 of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare
 essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for
 locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc...
 Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble
 is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and
 more fun.

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[RBW] Re: Quick question about Tektro CR720 Replacement Pads

2012-03-26 Thread William
Those are probably the right part.  Those are the ones IF your CR720s have 
the long pads.  I have seen CR720s come with the short stubby pads as well. 
 The benefit of the shorter ones is that they can clear your 
seatstays/forkblades when you QR them open for easier wheel removal with 
your chubby tires.  So, if your current CR720 brakepads are LONG, then 
those are the right inserts.  It'll be obvious when you go to switch them 
out.  

On Monday, March 26, 2012 1:29:47 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:

 solid, thanks guys!  I got the inserts.

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 3:00:34 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote:

 I like the inserts. They are quick and easy to insert and you don't have 
 to readjust your pads. And you are reusing the Tektro frames and not just 
 throwing them away (or in the parts box which for me often is the same 
 thing).

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 12:45:08 PM UTC-6, David Spranger wrote:

 Yes, those would work. You can also just get the insert for the 
 cartridges that come with the CR720s:
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpr2.htm

 On Monday, March 26, 2012 2:37:00 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

 Which Yokozuna brake pads fit the Tektro CR720?

 I believe it's the threaded version of these:  
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bpm1.htm

 But I am not sure!  

 Anyone know for certain?



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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread dougP
Let's face it, Rivendellians.  We selected bikes with beautiful lines,
nice lugwork, and cool paint details like the creme head tube.  Then
we cover it all up with enough accessories the basic bike gets lost in
the rackage'n'baggage.  Personally I'm a bit bi-polar on this as I
like the versatility all the extra stuff allows, and continually lose
arguments with myself on the subject.

When I get back from a trip where I've had to dis-assemble my
Atlantis, I often leave the Nitto Big Bag Rack off until it's really
needed.  The bike looks so much nicer without it, but it's not usually
long before reality intrudes.  The little mini front rack for the
Acorn Boxy Rando is a permanent fixture, however.  Just can't leave
home without it.

dougP

On Mar 26, 3:07 am, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote:
 Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately started
 decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and
 whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided that I
 just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I was
 effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem to
 lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load capacity
 of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare
 essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for
 locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc...
 Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The wobble
 is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility and
 more fun.

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[RBW] Vintage Riv Like downunder - Sun at last

2012-03-26 Thread Brevivelo
I have an Atlantis that was a wedding present to myself, which via a
quick visit to HQ was picked up and brought back saving the
extraordinary cost of shipping to Australia. I have had it for a while
and it is the one bike in my quiver that never gets stale. So
versatile- But I could never bring myself to put a baby seat on it.
Then I came accross a pair of Apollo 650b mountian tourers , mens and
a mixte. Fully fendered and in great condition for age. I am guessing
nearly 30 years old?
I think they look a little Bombadil like and like old Raleigh Mountian
Tourers -
 I'd love a SAM though

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32789456@N08/sets/72157629675374719/

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[RBW] Re: That Ebay Thing

2012-03-26 Thread William
Yet another instance of delusional ebay selling.  

New ($132 and you are really close to free shipping):   
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r3.htm 

Ebay used ($149 with shipping):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Rack-Japan-rivendell-rear-MTB-26-nickel-Very-Nice-/180848847119?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2a1b6e690f#ht_649wt_1344
 

More proof that crack don't smoke itself

On Friday, March 23, 2012 10:34:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Not riding related but def rivendell related. I usually troll 
 craigslist, ebay, etc. for any deals out there and have noticed a 
 trend that while the bikes on ebay seem to be reasonable the 
 accessories usually go for far more than I would expect to pay.  Take 
 for example this hat for sale 

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-Cycling-Cap-brand-new-/260983293520?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cc3d10650
  
 it is currently selling  $27 with shipping, you can get the same hat 
 for $16.00 on the rivbike site. Even if that is the only thing you get 
 and you pay the shipping its only $24.00, a 3 dollar savings and the 
 ebay auction isnt even over yet.  I doubt rivendell has any problem 
 moving bikes because they are amazing and known nationwide for thier 
 bikes but having worked in retail the smalls as we knew them can 
 also generate a huge amount of revenue and let some people who cant 
 afford the bikes at least get some rivendellian swag. I have rarely if 
 ever seen an ad for Rivendell accessories and clothing and I am not 
 sure if this is on purpose or due to lack of funds for advertising but 
 it seems like when I see the stuff on ebay and CL it goes for more 
 than new which means people greatly desire it so one has to wonder if 
 it was better advertised could it generate more revenue for rivendell 
 in general. Sorry for the rambloings, just thinking out loud here.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread EricP
My bikes always have racks, fenders, dynohubs and big bags.  This gives me 
flexibility to pick any one for comuting.  Just plop on a pannier and on my 
way.
 
Yes, I could probably lose fenders in summer.  And a smaller saddlebag.  
But to my eye, it makes the bike look nekkid.
 
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
 
 

On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:13:05 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:

 Let's face it, Rivendellians.  We selected bikes with beautiful lines, 
 nice lugwork, and cool paint details like the creme head tube.  Then 
 we cover it all up with enough accessories the basic bike gets lost in 
 the rackage'n'baggage.  Personally I'm a bit bi-polar on this as I 
 like the versatility all the extra stuff allows, and continually lose 
 arguments with myself on the subject. 

 When I get back from a trip where I've had to dis-assemble my 
 Atlantis, I often leave the Nitto Big Bag Rack off until it's really 
 needed.  The bike looks so much nicer without it, but it's not usually 
 long before reality intrudes.  The little mini front rack for the 
 Acorn Boxy Rando is a permanent fixture, however.  Just can't leave 
 home without it. 

 dougP 

 On Mar 26, 3:07 am, Scotty bongos...@verizon.net wrote: 
  Last year I made my dream bike purchase of a Homer and immediately 
 started 
  decking it out with all of the bells and baskets and racks and bags and 
  whistles I could think of. I was looking at it yesterday and decided 
 that I 
  just went way overboard. It just looked silly to me, and I even think I 
 was 
  effecting the ride quality, including a front end wobble I couldnt seem 
 to 
  lose. I already have a Surly Long Haul Trucker that has the load 
 capacity 
  of a mule. I made the decision to Strip Mr. Hilsen down the the bare 
  essentials. Keeping the rear rack on just in case, and a small bag for 
  locks and tools, but the front rack, baskets, fenders, computer, etc... 
  Gone! I swear its like a whole new bike, dare I say, even quick. The 
 wobble 
  is gone too. I should have done this months ago. Now it is less utility 
 and 
  more fun.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting back on the clutter

2012-03-26 Thread Minh

Funny i was thinking about this over the weekend, i think you have to come 
to your own equilibrium on this.  It depends on whether you have other 
bikes to be your mules, my SH is my camping bike so i think the only 
overkill is the big nitto front rack, i'd keep the dynohub, back rack, 
fenders, etc.  But it's not the bike i reach for when i just want to ramble 
around for a few hours in town, for that i'd grab the quickbeam.  Oh the 
'pain' of having too many bikes to choose from, a good problem to have!

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Re: [RBW] OMG

2012-03-26 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Looks like the lone wolf shops there.

http://rivibike.com/bikes.html

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david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 H April Fool's joke by the Riv gang (perhaps in a collabo with
 BikeSnobNYC)

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[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop

2012-03-26 Thread Michael_S
I would agree that San Diego has a large cycling community, but my rough 
estimate is that 80% are wearing team kits and ridding CF bikes, at least 
in North County. I'm sure in the city there are more commuters/urban 
riders.   It's certainly many times greater than in the LA 'burbs where I 
(and Velo Cult's owner Sky) came from.  

Where I live in north San Diego County the City of Carlsbad  has done a 
fabulous job with bike lanes and cyclist friendly traffic lights. There 
also many multi-user dirt bile trails that cover the hills. With 
the proximity to the ocean it's certainly an idealistic place for a cyclist 
to live.

~mike

On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:15:47 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote:

 I attended the grand opening of Velo Cult here in Portland last night. 
 I have a feeling this is going to be my new favorite bike shop. Heavy 
 emphasis on Riv-ish and classic bike lore, with nary a carbon racing 
 bike in sight. In fact, when you walk in the door you have to look 
 around a bit to find any merchandise - parts and bikes are all towards 
 the back. Lots of Nitto, Brooks, Velo-Orange, and On One (who also 
 just moved to Portland). New bikes appear to be Surly, Raleigh, and 
 All City cycles. The main attraction, though, is the space. Appears 
 designed more as a shrine to the classic mountain and road bikes owner 
 Sky Boyer has on display, including an original Steve Potts, early 
 Bontrager cross bike, a beautiful Follis tandem, and lots of stuff I'm 
 forgetting. The place is seems designed more to hang out and talk 
 bikes than to sell you something - though there's plenty to buy. 
 Surprisingly, Portland doesn't really have a shop like this - most of 
 our shops seem either race obsessed, fixie focused, or a hodge-podge 
 of everything on 2 wheels. I think they will do well here. And there's 
 microbrews on tap. Coffee and food coming soon, I hear. 
 Pictures here: 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpening 


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[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop

2012-03-26 Thread Michael_S
I would agree that San Diego has a large cycling community, but my rough 
estimate is that 80% are wearing team kits and ridding CF bikes, at least 
in North County. I'm sure in the city there are more commuters/urban 
riders.   It's certainly many times greater than in the LA 'burbs where I 
(and Velo Cult's owner Sky) came from.  

Where I live in north San Diego County the City of Carlsbad  has done a 
fabulous job with bike lanes and cyclist friendly traffic lights. There 
also many multi-user dirt bike trails that cover the hills. With 
the proximity to the ocean it's certainly an idealistic place for a cyclist 
to live.

~mike

On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:15:47 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote:

 I attended the grand opening of Velo Cult here in Portland last night. 
 I have a feeling this is going to be my new favorite bike shop. Heavy 
 emphasis on Riv-ish and classic bike lore, with nary a carbon racing 
 bike in sight. In fact, when you walk in the door you have to look 
 around a bit to find any merchandise - parts and bikes are all towards 
 the back. Lots of Nitto, Brooks, Velo-Orange, and On One (who also 
 just moved to Portland). New bikes appear to be Surly, Raleigh, and 
 All City cycles. The main attraction, though, is the space. Appears 
 designed more as a shrine to the classic mountain and road bikes owner 
 Sky Boyer has on display, including an original Steve Potts, early 
 Bontrager cross bike, a beautiful Follis tandem, and lots of stuff I'm 
 forgetting. The place is seems designed more to hang out and talk 
 bikes than to sell you something - though there's plenty to buy. 
 Surprisingly, Portland doesn't really have a shop like this - most of 
 our shops seem either race obsessed, fixie focused, or a hodge-podge 
 of everything on 2 wheels. I think they will do well here. And there's 
 microbrews on tap. Coffee and food coming soon, I hear. 
 Pictures here: 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpening 


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[RBW] WTT Tektro 559 for 539

2012-03-26 Thread JL
I have a pair new of Tektro 559 (55-73mm) brakes . I am interested in
a trade for a pair of 539 (47-57mm) brakes.

Any takers?  contact me offlist.

JL

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Re: [RBW] OMG

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Gee, I wonder what that bike is called..

On Monday, March 26, 2012 5:25:22 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

 Looks like the lone wolf shops there.

 http://rivibike.com/bikes.html

 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:33 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 H April Fool's joke by the Riv gang (perhaps in a collabo with 
 BikeSnobNYC) 

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RE: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-26 Thread John Speare
It's worth getting the Ultrashift versions, which are harder to find now in 
10sp, which makes the 11spd/9spd option perhaps a better choice if you're not a 
hunter and seeker type.

Ultra shift gives you the ability to sweep multiple shifts on the rear 
derailleur in one operation - powershift makes you step through it.

But probably more importantly is that ultra-shift gives you trim on the FD...

IMO, it's worth seeking out the ultra-shift stuff for 10 spd. All 11 speed is 
ultrashift, so you're ok there.

I have 10sp ergo set up on three bikes: two with old XTR derailleurs and one 
with a 9 spd Dura-Ace... works great in all cases with zero fussery.

Seems to me the best option for brifter set ups - you get super nice shifting 
and easy/cheap replacement parts along the drive train.



John Speare
Spokane, WA
http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

I'm using it on two bikes, both with Shimano LX long cage rapid rise rear 
derailleurs.  Works fine.  For the front I found that the Powershift (not 
Ultrashift) worked ok.  It can make your head hurt trying to figure out what 
Campy is doing year to year with PowerShift, UltraShift, and even group to 
group.  But Ergos are nice, that's the only reason I did it.

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Michael_S 
mikeybi...@rocketmail.commailto:mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
On my tandem, I'm using a older (M952) XTR long cage derailleur and XTR 12-32 
cassette. shifts like a dream.

~mike


On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:43:33 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
On Mar 24, 8:34 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.commailto:thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 We did a 10--8 Shimergo conversion recently. If we set it up to shift in 
 the middle of the cassette, indexing was suboptimal at the top and bottom of 
 the range. The customer brought it back to us several times for fine-tuning 
 before giving up on the idea. Maybe I missed some subtle nuance to making it 
 work flawlessly, but in my experience it only kinda works. Probably voids any 
 warranty.

What kind of cassette/derailer, Jim?  Just curious.  I have the best
results with a short-cage (Ultegra), currently shifting a 12-30t on a
single ring set-up.  I also get really smooth precise shifting with a
medium cage XTR rapid-rise (which I actually like for the ergo levers
- lets me shift to higher gears from the drops, and sweep up to lower
gears with a single big push of the thumb).  anyway, just wondering if
longer cages are more finicky for shimergo.
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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-26 Thread RonLau
Jim,

This is the reason why Campy 10s Ergo with Shimano 8 issue.

10s Campy pulls are 2.5mm five times, 3mm twice and 3.5mm twice. 

IMO, one is better off using Ergo 9s with Shiftmate for Shimano 9.

I am a Campy Ergo user, they are nice, easy to work with for me.  Just 
replace the g  e springs on a set of 10 years old shifter, good as new now 
in terms of shifting.  Their chain are pain but I use KMC and it works just 
fine.  If you use Veloce cassette, they are steel cog, they last a good 
long time, and you can swap out one at the time, namely 16-17-18-29 
usually.  My cassette of choice still 13-26 and 13-29 for long climbs.

I have another friend Chorus group works well without issue after 10 years, 
just replace the springs and keep an eye on the chain wear.  

You do want to use all 10s parts, mix and match doesn't make happy marriage 
with Campy. 

Just my 2c.

Ron

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 5:34:29 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 We did a 10--8 Shimergo conversion recently. If we set it up to shift 
 in the middle of the cassette, indexing was suboptimal at the top and 
 bottom of the range. The customer brought it back to us several times for 
 fine-tuning before giving up on the idea. Maybe I missed some subtle nuance 
 to making it work flawlessly, but in my experience it only kinda works. 
 Probably voids any warranty.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-26 Thread RonLau
Steve is correct, those Racing T FD are super at 48-38-28 DT or Barend 
shifting for me as well.


I bought a Campy FD from Rivendell before, it works very well and looks 
like my Racing T.

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/d10.htm

I will double check it tomorrow and make sure they are the same shape.

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:39:11 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:01 -0700, Mojo wrote:
Campy will always have that glorious history, and still has prestige
  for some reason. And Campy certainly has some impressive prices! oh
  and the 11 cogs!  I will say their brifters are nice and the Athena 11
  speed brifter will shift a 9 speed Shimano drivetrain nicely.   But in
  my mind's eye putting Campy parts on an Atlantis is like putting a
  designer spoiler on a Jeep. Not that there is anything wrong with
  that!

 You can keep your brifters and your eleven speeds, but trust me, the
 Campagnolo Racing T is the best front derailleur ever made for typical
 Riv-style compact triple wide range drive trains, the sort of thing you
 would expect to find on an Atlantis.



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[RBW] FS: 56cm SS Coupled Saluki in Portland-East

2012-03-26 Thread cyclotourist
Oh my, someone buy this so I can live vicariously through you...

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/2923936121.html

No affiliation, etc..

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[RBW] Best rain cover for a Brooks?

2012-03-26 Thread JL
What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain?  I
know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a
plastic bag over their seats.  What about the underside?  Do fenders
stop the water spray well enough?

Thanks
JL

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[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread Marc Irwin
Mine have both been comfortable from the start and got more comfortable as 
time went on.

Marc

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:07:06 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std at the 
 beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a 
 Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it a go for 
 a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept track of 
 break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free, although 
 they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std is a 
 wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't super 
 pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind of a 
 racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long chain stay 
 Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride.

 Bruce


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

2012-03-26 Thread Chris
I just picked one up on eBay.  Thanks for the recommendation!  

I read somewhere that for 8/9 speed front derailers Chorus is of the same 
quality as Racing T.  Is that right?  Chorus components seem to be more 
available than Racing T.  

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 15:36 -0700, eddie...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  I really like their triple front derailleurs with all non-STI setups. 
  

 Let me echo this.  The Campagnolo Racing T front derailleur is the best
 thing I've ever used on 24/36/46 and 26/36/48 compact triples shifted
 with Shimano bar end shifters.  It continues to amaze me, because
 Campagnolo has never had the slightest interest in this sort of gearing;
 but the derailleurs are simply fantastic.



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[RBW] New Betty Foy

2012-03-26 Thread Jamie


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-X6LTl1BJPeo/T2_YhJGC9dI/AgM/Vm6_xgpaG58/s1600/IMAG0060.jpg
I thought I would introduce myself and show off a photo of my recently 
purchased 62 cm Betty Foy. The bike and I reside in Berkeley and our 
much-needed rain has kept me from doing a great deal of riding in it during 
the last 2 weeks. The few trips I've taken around town and up the bay trail 
have been fantastic; I'm hoping to get a lot more riding time soon. 

--Jamie

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Re: [RBW] My Grilver AHH

2012-03-26 Thread cyclotourist
Success! And the color looks great, especially with that handlebar color!

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 Had this for just about a year now and have tried to post here many times
 to no avail. Quit the group, re-did my settings and hope this does it.

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[RBW] Re: New Portland bike shop

2012-03-26 Thread Eric
I was in Portland for a class at UBI and I was was tooling around the
North East side of Portland (or Southeast) Sunday and found myself in
Hollywood area and just happened to stumble upon the party!

I walked around the shop and mingled, it's such a beautiful space!

Just so happens I saw Chris King walk in just as I was leaving. So
cool!


On Mar 26, 7:35 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 I would agree that San Diego has a large cycling community, but my rough
 estimate is that 80% are wearing team kits and ridding CF bikes, at least
 in North County. I'm sure in the city there are more commuters/urban
 riders.   It's certainly many times greater than in the LA 'burbs where I
 (and Velo Cult's owner Sky) came from.

 Where I live in north San Diego County the City of Carlsbad  has done a
 fabulous job with bike lanes and cyclist friendly traffic lights. There
 also many multi-user dirt bike trails that cover the hills. With
 the proximity to the ocean it's certainly an idealistic place for a cyclist
 to live.

 ~mike







 On Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:15:47 AM UTC-7, velomann wrote:

  I attended the grand opening of Velo Cult here in Portland last night.
  I have a feeling this is going to be my new favorite bike shop. Heavy
  emphasis on Riv-ish and classic bike lore, with nary a carbon racing
  bike in sight. In fact, when you walk in the door you have to look
  around a bit to find any merchandise - parts and bikes are all towards
  the back. Lots of Nitto, Brooks, Velo-Orange, and On One (who also
  just moved to Portland). New bikes appear to be Surly, Raleigh, and
  All City cycles. The main attraction, though, is the space. Appears
  designed more as a shrine to the classic mountain and road bikes owner
  Sky Boyer has on display, including an original Steve Potts, early
  Bontrager cross bike, a beautiful Follis tandem, and lots of stuff I'm
  forgetting. The place is seems designed more to hang out and talk
  bikes than to sell you something - though there's plenty to buy.
  Surprisingly, Portland doesn't really have a shop like this - most of
  our shops seem either race obsessed, fixie focused, or a hodge-podge
  of everything on 2 wheels. I think they will do well here. And there's
  microbrews on tap. Coffee and food coming soon, I hear.
  Pictures here:
 https://picasaweb.google.com/116897251123335733984/VeloCultGrandOpening

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[RBW] Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike

2012-03-26 Thread SeanMac
I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam 
Hillborne's.  They look like really wonderful bikes.  Strong, versatile, 
attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike.  These 
are qualities that I find attractive.  However, I also like to go fastish.  
Can I do this with a Sam as well?

I'm pushing 45 years old.  A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike 
built for me.  That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do.  I 
also have a Trek 520 Touring bike.  This bike, obviously, is built for 
touring.  Its not very fast, nor very lively.  In short, my Trek isn't much 
fun to ride.  I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- 
one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths 
(such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride 
(like my Trek).

Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to 
be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks.  I want to be 
able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first 
place).  However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club 
and recreational rides as well.  In fact, the vast majority of rides will 
be  20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides.  Is the Sam well suited 
to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520?  Most likely 
I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack 
Browns.

I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will 
be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride.  
However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less 
expensive alternative.  I don't think that my body has any proportions that 
would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 
35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is 
fun to do so!).

Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated.

Sean

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Re: [RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread Pam Ellen Hudson
I bought a Brooks B17 (regular not women's) with titanium rails from a  
few years ago.  Whew!
I biked about 200 miles - still a rock.  Before moving it to my  
Brompton - I soaked it in Lexol (per Sheldon Brown)
knowing that I may destroy the longevity of the saddle - butter, pure  
button. It's since been absolutely no problems - when
I loaned my bike to someone else - they still think it's a rock.  But  
to me - butter.


Interested in getting a women's version or maybe a B67 at some point  
too.


On Mar 25, 2012, at 9:56 AM, charlie wrote:


I had a Champion Flyer that broke in on a 50 mile ride. My black B17
took 500 miles and I have another B17 (Honey color) that still feels a
little stiff after more than 500 miles (I lost count). I am currently
riding a VO springer (similar to a Champion Flyer) on my geared
bicycle and its stiff as a board. I think the new high mileage B17's
with the undyed leather are better especially if you are over about
180 pounds. I don't remember ever breaking in my old B17 when I
weighed 170 lbs., 30 years ago.

On Mar 24, 3:07 pm, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std  
at the

beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a
Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it  
a go for
a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept  
track of
break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free,  
although
they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std  
is a
wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't  
super
pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind  
of a
racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long  
chain stay

Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride.

Bruce


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[RBW] Re: After-school bike rides

2012-03-26 Thread SeanMac
Manny,

I'm really impressed.  My students look at me like a crazy man when I tell 
them that I ride my bike 20 + miles, for fun! 

Are you leading an official group, or just an informal ride?  Is this 
something that you do often?

Sean
EA, NY

On Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:43:01 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Battling a nasty cough I'm glad that my students can always make me 
 feel better (albeit spiritually not physically). One of 
 many( hopefully) after-school bike rides. 

 Picture proved it happened: 
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzg1Z5B 

 -Manny  Did I mention I like being a teacher? Acosta

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[RBW] Re: What eye protection do y'all use when riding?

2012-03-26 Thread Bill
I wear and love Oakley Radars. 

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:13:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 You long distance riders: what do you wear, if anything, to protect
 your eyes from sun, wind, dust and pollen? I dislike glasses intensely
  because I sweat all over them so that in very short order they become
 largely opaque -- as even the very well designed -- the frames sit
 away from the face -- R Projects got smeared today in 12 miles at 74F,
 11% humidity.

 I generally just wear a cycling cap for the shade (from wind as well
 as sun) and to act as a sweat reservoir, but then I don't ride 100
 miles at a stretch. I used to give myself headaches as a lad wearing
 heavy glass lenses in slippery, ill fitting, blacl plastic frames when
 I tried to hold them on my Asian nose with my face muscles.

 Interesting: Armstrong, Indurain -- mostly in shades. Hinault, Merckx,
 Anquetil, Coppi, Bartali, Maes, Christophe, Garin -- rarely despite
 the much more dirt; ditto 12 time Tour winner Beryl Burton, the best
 cyclist in history. What gives -- Rudy P and Bolle sponsorships?

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[RBW] Re: That Ebay Thing

2012-03-26 Thread kavalk
I prefer to watch cycling groups such as RBW and others to
see who is offering goods for sale.  We share a common
interest here and when a group member offers an item for
sale, I feel a greater degree of certainty that the item is
as described.  I choose a high water mark as an opening
bid and never raise that bid.  I have won a few items,
lost out on others and never overpaid (in my opinion).
I would love to come into contact with these sellers at
a later date to share updates on the frames and components
I purchased.  I would like to think we share a greater
camaraderie than simply buyer and seller.

On Mar 23, 1:28 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey quiet!  I'm paying for my kid's college tuition by buying Riv stuff at
 retail and reselling on ebay for retail-plus!

 OK, just kidding.  It is amusing when people will pay more than retail on
 ebay for an item that is readily available elsewhere.  The seller started
 the auction at $5, so it's likely just one of those weird micro economic
 anomalies.







 On Friday, March 23, 2012 10:34:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

  Not riding related but def rivendell related. I usually troll
  craigslist, ebay, etc. for any deals out there and have noticed a
  trend that while the bikes on ebay seem to be reasonable the
  accessories usually go for far more than I would expect to pay.  Take
  for example this hat for sale

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/​Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-​Cycling-Cap-brand-new-/​260983293520?pt=LH_​DefaultDomain_0hash=​item3cc3d10650http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-Cycling-Cap-brand-new...
  it is currently selling  $27 with shipping, you can get the same hat
  for $16.00 on the rivbike site. Even if that is the only thing you get
  and you pay the shipping its only $24.00, a 3 dollar savings and the
  ebay auction isnt even over yet.  I doubt rivendell has any problem
  moving bikes because they are amazing and known nationwide for thier
  bikes but having worked in retail the smalls as we knew them can
  also generate a huge amount of revenue and let some people who cant
  afford the bikes at least get some rivendellian swag. I have rarely if
  ever seen an ad for Rivendell accessories and clothing and I am not
  sure if this is on purpose or due to lack of funds for advertising but
  it seems like when I see the stuff on ebay and CL it goes for more
  than new which means people greatly desire it so one has to wonder if
  it was better advertised could it generate more revenue for rivendell
  in general. Sorry for the rambloings, just thinking out loud here.

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[RBW] Re: What eye protection do y'all use when riding?

2012-03-26 Thread bikecg
I wear prescription glasses so wearing glasses is never a second
thought.  I keep a pair or two of my old prescription glasses (wire
rims) and use use clip-on sun glasses.  That approach is helpful for
two reasons: 1.  keeps the sun out, and 2. if I take a stone or a big
bug, the clip-on can take the first impact.  I would not feel not at
home not wearing some sort of eye protection.

Carl Gonzalez
Bay Village, OH

On Mar 24, 7:13 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 You long distance riders: what do you wear, if anything, to protect
 your eyes from sun, wind, dust and pollen? I dislike glasses intensely
  because I sweat all over them so that in very short order they become
 largely opaque -- as even the very well designed -- the frames sit
 away from the face -- R Projects got smeared today in 12 miles at 74F,
 11% humidity.

 I generally just wear a cycling cap for the shade (from wind as well
 as sun) and to act as a sweat reservoir, but then I don't ride 100
 miles at a stretch. I used to give myself headaches as a lad wearing
 heavy glass lenses in slippery, ill fitting, blacl plastic frames when
 I tried to hold them on my Asian nose with my face muscles.

 Interesting: Armstrong, Indurain -- mostly in shades. Hinault, Merckx,
 Anquetil, Coppi, Bartali, Maes, Christophe, Garin -- rarely despite
 the much more dirt; ditto 12 time Tour winner Beryl Burton, the best
 cyclist in history. What gives -- Rudy P and Bolle sponsorships?

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[RBW] Re: What eye protection do y'all use when riding?

2012-03-26 Thread Matthew J
I am nearsighted and overly sensitive to light.  RX sunglasses are not 
optional.  For the past three years, been wearing the Oakley Jackknife 
model.

Long rides on sunny days will also wear my Tilley long brim cap with 
Legionnaire style flaps in the back to keep the sun off my neck as well.  

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:13:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 You long distance riders: what do you wear, if anything, to protect
 your eyes from sun, wind, dust and pollen? I dislike glasses intensely
  because I sweat all over them so that in very short order they become
 largely opaque -- as even the very well designed -- the frames sit
 away from the face -- R Projects got smeared today in 12 miles at 74F,
 11% humidity.

 I generally just wear a cycling cap for the shade (from wind as well
 as sun) and to act as a sweat reservoir, but then I don't ride 100
 miles at a stretch. I used to give myself headaches as a lad wearing
 heavy glass lenses in slippery, ill fitting, blacl plastic frames when
 I tried to hold them on my Asian nose with my face muscles.

 Interesting: Armstrong, Indurain -- mostly in shades. Hinault, Merckx,
 Anquetil, Coppi, Bartali, Maes, Christophe, Garin -- rarely despite
 the much more dirt; ditto 12 time Tour winner Beryl Burton, the best
 cyclist in history. What gives -- Rudy P and Bolle sponsorships?

 -- 
 Patrick Moore
 Albuquerque, NM
 For professional resumes, contact
 Patrick Moore, ACRW
 http://resumespecialties.com/​index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html



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[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread Ablejack


 Um, trick question. The real question is:

 Q. How long does it take your butt to break in while riding a Brooks 
saddle?
 A. Somewhere between your 50th and 100th mile, you own it. 

I'm curious about the Berthoud touring saddle too, but my Brooks is 
currently in such a sweet spot.


 

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[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread BCDrums
Was ready to go right out of the box. It's your keester that breaks
in, not the saddle.

BC
saddled

On Mar 24, 6:07 pm, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std at the
 beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a
 Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it a go for
 a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept track of
 break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free, although
 they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std is a
 wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't super
 pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind of a
 racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long chain stay
 Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride.

 Bruce

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[RBW] Re: Steel Bike Show - April 8, 2012 in Orange, CA

2012-03-26 Thread Daniel
Unfortunately, the Steel Bike Show is postponed till June.
I'll post more details when I learn more. Right now, this is all I
know: http://torellifan.com/torelli-bikes/bike-show-postponed/
Daniel

On Mar 14, 11:52 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's what the first one looked 
 like:http://torellifan.com/torelli-bikes/show-of-steel-bikes-recap/

 On 3/14/12, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:









  Beer and bikes, what's the downside?

  On 3/14/12, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
  David  Dan:

  We have the makings of Riv ride.  Let's see if we can pull this off.

  dougP

  On Mar 14, 8:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  That could be fun.

  On 3/13/12, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hope this isn't too OT, but there's a STEEL bike show coming up in
   less than a month in Southern California.

   I hope to attend and maybe we can even gets some Rivendells in the
   line
   up! (There were no Rivs in the last show!)

   Details
   Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012
   Time: Noon
   Location: Old Orange Brewing Company, 1444 North Batavia, Orange, CA
   92867
   more info on Torellifan.com

   I'm cross posting this on BOB and Rawland lists, so sorry if you're
   reading this more than once!

   Best,

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Re: [RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?

2012-03-26 Thread cyclotourist
My experience is similar. They always feel just right on first ride. I
never understood the idea of breaking them in.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mine have both been comfortable from the start and got more comfortable as
 time went on.

 Marc


 On Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:07:06 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std at the
 beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a
 Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it a go for
 a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept track of
 break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free, although
 they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std is a
 wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't super
 pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind of a
 racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long chain stay
 Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride.

 Bruce

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Re: [RBW] Re: Steel Bike Show - April 8, 2012 in Orange, CA

2012-03-26 Thread cyclotourist
Bummer, that date worked perfectly for me. I wonder what would be different
with the property owners/management in June that isn't in place now.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, the Steel Bike Show is postponed till June.
 I'll post more details when I learn more. Right now, this is all I
 know: http://torellifan.com/torelli-bikes/bike-show-postponed/
 Daniel

 On Mar 14, 11:52 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here's what the first one looked like:
 http://torellifan.com/torelli-bikes/show-of-steel-bikes-recap/
 
  On 3/14/12, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Beer and bikes, what's the downside?
 
   On 3/14/12, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
   David  Dan:
 
   We have the makings of Riv ride.  Let's see if we can pull this off.
 
   dougP
 
   On Mar 14, 8:45 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
   That could be fun.
 
   On 3/13/12, Daniel datadatadan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Hope this isn't too OT, but there's a STEEL bike show coming up in
less than a month in Southern California.
 
I hope to attend and maybe we can even gets some Rivendells in the
line
up! (There were no Rivs in the last show!)
 
Details
Date: Sunday, April 8, 2012
Time: Noon
Location: Old Orange Brewing Company, 1444 North Batavia, Orange,
 CA
92867
more info on Torellifan.com
 
I'm cross posting this on BOB and Rawland lists, so sorry if you're
reading this more than once!
 
Best,
 
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