Re: [RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Robert F. Harrison
Hahaha is right.

I swear I was okay till I rode the Hunq. Sure it's lovely, but I can resist
all sorts of lovely things. I was even okay after riding the Sam. Don't get
me wrong, the Sam is a great bike. I'd love to own one. I just didn't want
to pay for one.

And yes, I'm one of those folks who forget about the expense in a few (not
one or two, but not dozens either) of paychecks. That's why when Vince said
I could put money down on the frame and pay the rest when it came in I
declined and got the whole thing over with. By July it'll be like getting a
free bike after an expensive vacation.

And the only bike I regret buying was fat-tubed, but too small road bike
about 25+ years ago. I was riding a too big Schwinn road bike  and got
talked into buying a new bike that was the right size. I wish I'd kept
the Schwinn...with any luck it's still on the road. As for it's too big
size - probably smaller than my Quickbeam. My regrets are mostly in
hindsight though, the bike was okay - sold it to a friend a couple of years
later and it did, in fact, fit him better.

Aloha!


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.comwrote:

 Hahaha. Congratulations Bob!

 For everyone else, I'm laughing because one of the topics on the ride back
 from points hinter, was that Bob was going to stop at Riv to look at a new
 Hunq, but *hopefully* not buy one because, hey, obviously one needs a new
 hole in their wallet like new hole in their head. Well, we all had the good
 manners not to voice it, but at the same time we all knew he was going home
 with one, because when the strongest protestation you can muster is
 hopefully, umm, yeah. Good luck with that.

 If it helps, I've NEVER heard someone make the old saw about the two best
 days of owning a bike are the day you buy it and the day you sell it. To
 the contrary, most  (not all, but most) folks forget about the expense
 within a paycheck or two. As my brother is wont to say, women's made for
 lovin', money's made for spendin'.

 Best wishes for you and your new Hunq,
 -Allan


 On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 5:27:14 PM UTC-7, Statrixbob wrote:

 I just happened to be in Walnut Creek today and...

 Okay, I actually had planned my vacation this year to include San
 Francisco and Walnut Creek. I arrived yesterday after spending the last 12
 days or so biking the Oregon coast and spending time with family in
 Portland. I'd added a leg to SF when I discovered it wasn't very expensive
 to add the leg to my ticket and I got a great deal at The Mosser in SF that
 made an extra 5 days possible. Admittedly it's a tiny little room, but
 holds me and my bike so there you go.

 Today I took the BART out to Walnut Creek thinking that Grant would be
 off on his book tour but he was in town, actually doing some other
 publicity stuff. I got to meet him in person, get a copy of his book, and
 then worked with Vince on a little something else.

 I had my PBH remeasured and sure enough, I'm still mostly leg, at least
 95.5 (and I'd thought I was 94).

 I test rode the 64 Sam and the 62 Hunq.

 Both were fantastic. The Hunq was just slightly more fantastic for me. I
 stress the for me bit because it could easily be the other way around for
 someone else. I just like really fat tires and riding on the Big Apples
 they had attached showed me just how comfortable that bike can be.

 I went with the stock build kit for a couple of reasons. First it's good
 stuff and does save me a bit on the build. In a perfect world I might have
 toyed with a few things but that would have added unnecessarily to the
 cost. In the future I'll upgrade when things wear out.

 The only thing that concerns me is the Alba bars. They were really nice
 on the test Hunq I rode, though I'm a moustache guy. I'm thinking that I
 may swap the Albas on the Hunq with the M-bars on my QB. I use the QB
 around town for the most part. That'll be like getting two new bikes. :-)

 After spending all that money I spent the afternoon on the trails leading
 up to Mount Diablo. I didn't go up because it was hot and late in the day,
 I hadn't eaten much today, and I only had one bottle of water. That and I
 didn't want to climb 2,000 feet after all the climbing in Oregon. It was
 still a lovely day for a ride and next time I'm in the Bay Area I know
 exactly how to get there. :-)

 All in all it was great to meet Grant, Vince is a great guy, the Hunq is
 a super bike, and I'm still a bike short, I only have 'n' bikes.

 My arsenal now includes (as of July)

 62 Hunq
 66 Quickbeam
 ?? RB-1 (in Hilo)
 Bike Friday New World Tourist
 Fujiyama (a house brand for McCully Bicycle back in the day) single speed
 beater (freshly powder coated and shod with Big Apples)


 That'll do it for a while.


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Re: [RBW] Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Brian Hanson
Rob - great story, and I can relate!  I received my 54cm Hunqapillar
today.  It's gorgeous!  The packing job was impeccable, and I got some
doodle art on the box, as well.

I am in between sizes, so I originally rode a 54 and 58 while visiting Riv
HQ last summer.  Since I will be primarily using this for camping/off-road
as a foil for my AHH, I decided on the smaller frame size.  I really liked
the 54 with a moustache setup, so when I heard they were nearly out of the
original color, I had to pick one up.  Brian Tester helped out (he has a
54cm Hunq too).  I started the build today, but am waiting on a few parts.
Here's the pics so far:

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzeCUFj

BTW - I put a Haulin' Colin rack (http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html)
that was originally designed for the newish Rawland rSogn on it.  It fits
just right, and makes a really solid mount the front.  He is doing another
batch soon, and was wondering if he should market this rack to Rivendell
owners.  I would say yes at this point - no modification is necessary on
the Hunqapillar, and if the hourglass mounts are in the same place on the
other Riv canti models, it should be a go for them, as well.

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just happened to be in Walnut Creek today and...

 Okay, I actually had planned my vacation this year to include San
 Francisco and Walnut Creek. I arrived yesterday after spending the last 12
 days or so biking the Oregon coast and spending time with family in
 Portland. I'd added a leg to SF when I discovered it wasn't very expensive
 to add the leg to my ticket and I got a great deal at The Mosser in SF that
 made an extra 5 days possible. Admittedly it's a tiny little room, but
 holds me and my bike so there you go.

 Today I took the BART out to Walnut Creek thinking that Grant would be off
 on his book tour but he was in town, actually doing some other publicity
 stuff. I got to meet him in person, get a copy of his book, and then worked
 with Vince on a little something else.

 I had my PBH remeasured and sure enough, I'm still mostly leg, at least
 95.5 (and I'd thought I was 94).

 I test rode the 64 Sam and the 62 Hunq.

 Both were fantastic. The Hunq was just slightly more fantastic for me. I
 stress the for me bit because it could easily be the other way around for
 someone else. I just like really fat tires and riding on the Big Apples
 they had attached showed me just how comfortable that bike can be.

 I went with the stock build kit for a couple of reasons. First it's good
 stuff and does save me a bit on the build. In a perfect world I might have
 toyed with a few things but that would have added unnecessarily to the
 cost. In the future I'll upgrade when things wear out.

 The only thing that concerns me is the Alba bars. They were really nice on
 the test Hunq I rode, though I'm a moustache guy. I'm thinking that I may
 swap the Albas on the Hunq with the M-bars on my QB. I use the QB around
 town for the most part. That'll be like getting two new bikes. :-)

 After spending all that money I spent the afternoon on the trails leading
 up to Mount Diablo. I didn't go up because it was hot and late in the day,
 I hadn't eaten much today, and I only had one bottle of water. That and I
 didn't want to climb 2,000 feet after all the climbing in Oregon. It was
 still a lovely day for a ride and next time I'm in the Bay Area I know
 exactly how to get there. :-)

 All in all it was great to meet Grant, Vince is a great guy, the Hunq is a
 super bike, and I'm still a bike short, I only have 'n' bikes.

 My arsenal now includes (as of July)

 62 Hunq
 66 Quickbeam
 ?? RB-1 (in Hilo)
 Bike Friday New World Tourist
 Fujiyama (a house brand for McCully Bicycle back in the day) single speed
 beater (freshly powder coated and shod with Big Apples)


 That'll do it for a while.

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 statrix.com

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Re: [RBW] AHH standover-57, 59cm frames?

2012-05-09 Thread Brian Hanson
33 or about 83.5cm on my 59cm AHH with 700x33s.  Jack Browns...  The tube
goes from about 83-84 cm from back to front.

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:24 PM, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.comwrote:

 im curious what owners of 57 and 59cm Hilsens have for a standover
 measured midway across toptube to the top of the toptube. tire size would
 be helpful too

 mike goldman

 warwick,r.i.


 
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[RBW] Re: Frame Pumps for a 64 Hillborne

2012-05-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Any thoughts on whether the HPX-4 would work equally well on a 60cm Sam 
Hillborne? Effective top tube is 3cm shorter than the 64's, which I think means 
the actual top tube is slightly more than 3cm shorter.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Book Tour Adventures!

2012-05-09 Thread kevin lindsey
Has anyone seen his tour schedule?  Specifically, is he planning to
sign books here in the Washington, D.C. area?
Kevin

On May 9, 1:38 am, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is he coming to Chicago!?

 On May 8, 9:00 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote:







  Manny - I truly agree with you about the book.  I would go so far as to say
  it has made an immediate impact on the fun that i have while riding (and i
  have been a reader of riv readers and blugs for quite some time).  The
  heavy rider big hill tip alone has been worth the price of admission for
  me.

  On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:05:38 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

   It was funny because I was just thinking about how his book touring was
   going and pop there goes a new blug. Looks like he's having a grand old
   time. His new book is good btw. Things that you get after years of
   experience from riding a bike all in one book. Lots of interesting things.
   If your an avid cycling or even a new to cycling this book would be good 
   to
   read. Chapters are set up in a way where if you don't want to read certain
   sections you don't have to. Skip em and read them later. Being a fairly 
   new
   cyclist I'm just finally branching out to different subgroups of cycling.
   I'm coming to realizations about cycling that were already written in the
   book. Not only is the book a good reconfirmation on things that I do
   while biking that I always felt uncomfortable about but it's helping me
   getting over certain aspects of my riding now that will save me some grief
   in the long run. Makes me feel better about Just Riding. (--This was
   intentional) Also the drawings in the book a swanky. Anyone know the
   artist?

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[RBW] Tandem Transport?

2012-05-09 Thread GeorgeS
I have a nice tandem I want to take to Vt this summer.  I have a
medium size SUV (Honda Pilot) but with all my other stuff, there's not
enough room in the car for the bike.  I don't want to put it on the
rear rack because that's got all the regular bikes which leaves the
roof.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a roof rack for a tandem?
GeorgeS
New Orleans, La.

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Re: [RBW] Tandem Transport?

2012-05-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:52 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a nice tandem I want to take to Vt this summer.  I have a
 medium size SUV (Honda Pilot) but with all my other stuff, there's not
 enough room in the car for the bike.  I don't want to put it on the
 rear rack because that's got all the regular bikes which leaves the
 roof.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a roof rack for a tandem?


Kinda off-topic (sadly riv doesn't make a tandem :()

 but thule and yakima make a tandem-specific roof rack component.

we have one - it is giant - and somewhat expensive but it works well.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Tandem Transport?

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
I use the Thule tandem attachment. It works fine, although a bit pricey.
They pop up used on CL occasionally

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:52 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a nice tandem I want to take to Vt this summer.  I have a
 medium size SUV (Honda Pilot) but with all my other stuff, there's not
 enough room in the car for the bike.  I don't want to put it on the
 rear rack because that's got all the regular bikes which leaves the
 roof.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a roof rack for a tandem?
 GeorgeS
 New Orleans, La.

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Re: [RBW] Tandem Transport?

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
Jinx.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:52 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have a nice tandem I want to take to Vt this summer.  I have a
  medium size SUV (Honda Pilot) but with all my other stuff, there's not
  enough room in the car for the bike.  I don't want to put it on the
  rear rack because that's got all the regular bikes which leaves the
  roof.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a roof rack for a tandem?


 Kinda off-topic (sadly riv doesn't make a tandem :()

  but thule and yakima make a tandem-specific roof rack component.

 we have one - it is giant - and somewhat expensive but it works well.

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: Grant's Book Tour Adventures!

2012-05-09 Thread Zack
tour schedule (from riv site):

*Sun April 29 *

*NYC, The New Amsterdam Bike Show http://newambikeshow.com/.* There’s a 
room for speakers, and BSNYC will talk about his book, The Enlightened 
Cyclist, too. I hope not at the same time, because he’s the Sandy 
Koufaxhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDgMXFBHLP0 of 
this stuff.

I’ll remain in NYC a few days, and then I’m off to Alabama.

*Sun May 6*

*Page  Palette http://www.pageandpalette.com/ (bookstore) *32 S. Section 
Street  Fairhope, AL 36532

6:00 – 7:00 PM: Talk, QA, Book Signing, Ride.  I’m bringing a folding 
bike, if I can figure out how to get it into the case, and that has not 
been made clear yet.

*THURS MAY 10:*

*Idaho, BOISE*

*Boise Bicycle Projec*t 1027 Lusk St.   Boise, ID 83706

7:00 – 8:00 PM: Talk, QA, Book signing, Ride. I like riding in Idaho. I’ll 
practice my “Idaho Stop http://vimeo.com/4140910” here in California, 
just so I’m up to speed when I’m there.

*Friday May 11 *

*SEATTLE, WA.
*

*FreeRange http://www.freerangecycles.com/ Cycles*  3501 Phinney Ave S 
Seattle 98103

(206) 547-8407  

TALK, SIGNING, ONE-HOUR RIDE

*Saturday May 12*

*PORTLAND, ORE*

*Powell’s http://www.powells.com/events/ (bookstore)* 1005 W Burnside  
2:00 – 3:00 PM: Talk, QA, Book SigningPortland, OR 97209   
Website: http://www.powells.com/

*2:00 PM BOOKTALK, SIGNING.   3PM RIDE*

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 1:05:38 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 It was funny because I was just thinking about how his book touring was 
 going and pop there goes a new blug. Looks like he's having a grand old 
 time. His new book is good btw. Things that you get after years of 
 experience from riding a bike all in one book. Lots of interesting things. 
 If your an avid cycling or even a new to cycling this book would be good to 
 read. Chapters are set up in a way where if you don't want to read certain 
 sections you don't have to. Skip em and read them later. Being a fairly new 
 cyclist I'm just finally branching out to different subgroups of cycling. 
 I'm coming to realizations about cycling that were already written in the 
 book. Not only is the book a good reconfirmation on things that I do 
 while biking that I always felt uncomfortable about but it's helping me 
 getting over certain aspects of my riding now that will save me some grief 
 in the long run. Makes me feel better about Just Riding. (--This was 
 intentional) Also the drawings in the book a swanky. Anyone know the 
 artist?  



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[RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Mike
Brian, definitely looking forward to pictures of your build. It looks
like it's gonna be a winner.

--mike

On May 8, 11:18 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rob - great story, and I can relate!  I received my 54cm Hunqapillar
 today.  It's gorgeous!  The packing job was impeccable, and I got some
 doodle art on the box, as well.

 I am in between sizes, so I originally rode a 54 and 58 while visiting Riv
 HQ last summer.  Since I will be primarily using this for camping/off-road
 as a foil for my AHH, I decided on the smaller frame size.  I really liked
 the 54 with a moustache setup, so when I heard they were nearly out of the
 original color, I had to pick one up.  Brian Tester helped out (he has a
 54cm Hunq too).  I started the build today, but am waiting on a few parts.
 Here's the pics so far:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzeCUFj

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[RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Kayakguy
I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these
double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found
nothing.

Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and
single tubes.

Thanks for filling me in.

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread newenglandbike
The double top-tube thing has been available on Rivendells for a long time 
I think, going way back to larger-sized customs, but first appearing on 
standard models with the AHH in larger sizes (67cm and up) if I'm not 
mistaken. Then around 2009 the Bombadil came standard with it, to 
're-triangulate' the frame due to the expanded geometry and tall head 
tube.  



On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:35:33 AM UTC-4, Kayakguy wrote:

 I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these 
 double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found 
 nothing. 

 Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and 
 single tubes. 

 Thanks for filling me in.

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Kayakguy
I knew about the Bombadil having a double, but I gues you are saying
all the medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
cause I don't much dig the double look.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Uhh, not to be a jerk but when was the last time you were on the site? I
believe this has been the norm for at least the 4 years I have been poking
around.  You could call RBW and see if they have your size in a singe TT,
the old attic is full of surprises.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I knew about the Bombadil having a double, but I gues you are saying
 all the medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
 cause I don't much dig the double look.

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Re: [RBW] wtt: 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet ~ orange for blue

2012-05-09 Thread Me
Hi Eric,

I have a 58 blue Rambouillet and am definitely interested.  I am second owner 
and bought it from a list member last year but have hardly ridden it. He bought 
it new from Harris Cyclery.  It has one flaw, a small double ding in the top 
tube, and came that way to the original owner.  Neither he nor I found it 
noticeable.  I will be home Friday and can send pics then if you are interested.
Tim





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 I have a minty 58cm orange Rivendell Rambouillet (frame/fork/headset)
 and I'm looking to find someone with a a 58cm Rambo in blue who'd like
 to trade.
 
 Let's talk!
 
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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Kayakguy
Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.

 Now I kind of want an Atlantis, or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.

On May 9, 11:06 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 Uhh, not to be a jerk but when was the last time you were on the site? I
 believe this has been the norm for at least the 4 years I have been poking
 around.  You could call RBW and see if they have your size in a singe TT,
 the old attic is full of surprises.



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  all the medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
  cause I don't much dig the double look.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
 enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
 Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.

  Now I kind of want an Atlantis, or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
 light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
 That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.


- Hilsens have optional double top tubes
- Atlantises  don't have them at all
- Hillbornes in the larger sizes have them

If you don't like them you can get frames without them

If you do like them you're all set, too.

Riv gives you great options.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
Even rarer is the diaga-tube  These will be collectors items one day.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
 enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
 Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.

  Now I kind of want an Atlantis, or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
 light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
 That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.


 - Hilsens have optional double top tubes
 - Atlantises  don't have them at all
 - Hillbornes in the larger sizes have them

 If you don't like them you can get frames without them

 If you do like them you're all set, too.

 Riv gives you great options.

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Well I know there is no double TT on the Atlantis because it only goes so
big, after that you are in Bomba/Hunqa country. The Sam's get double TT at
what I would describe as a medium size, the 56 but the Hilsen doesnst go
double TT until the huge sizes so depending on your size you might be stuck
looking at the higher end stuff or hell go Yves Gomez and no TT!

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
 enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
 Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.

  Now I kind of want an Atlantis, or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
 light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
 That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.

 On May 9, 11:06 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
  Uhh, not to be a jerk but when was the last time you were on the site? I
  believe this has been the norm for at least the 4 years I have been
 poking
  around.  You could call RBW and see if they have your size in a singe TT,
  the old attic is full of surprises.
 
 
 
  On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:
   I knew about the Bombadil having a double, but I gues you are saying
   all the medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
   cause I don't much dig the double look.
 
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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
I think that trying to apply logic to it is an exercise in futility.

And I like that.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Peter Morgano wrote:

 Well I know there is no double TT on the Atlantis because it only goes so
 big, after that you are in Bomba/Hunqa country. The Sam's get double TT at
 what I would describe as a medium size, the 56 but the Hilsen doesnst go
 double TT until the huge sizes so depending on your size you might be stuck
 looking at the higher end stuff or hell go Yves Gomez and no TT!

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Kayakguy 
 beeho...@hotmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'beeho...@hotmail.com');
  wrote:

 Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
 enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
 Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.

  Now I kind of want an Atlantis, or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
 light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
 That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.

 On May 9, 11:06 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 
 'cvml', 'uscpeter11...@gmail.com');
 wrote:
  Uhh, not to be a jerk but when was the last time you were on the site? I
  believe this has been the norm for at least the 4 years I have been
 poking
  around.  You could call RBW and see if they have your size in a singe
 TT,
  the old attic is full of surprises.
 
 
 
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  beeho...@hotmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'beeho...@hotmail.com');
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   I knew about the Bombadil having a double, but I gues you are saying
   all the medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
   cause I don't much dig the double look.
 
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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Z-Man: the line about logic/futility gave me a good chuckle. As a bicycle 
professional, who frequently tries new bikes, new component setups, new 
accessories, etc, I often have people ask me why did you do it THAT way? as 
if they expect a sophisticated response that will be logically infallible and 
revolutionary to all cycling wisdom hereafter. I just kinda like it, or I 
like to try new things, are disappointing responses to those who prefer rigid 
categories of everything.

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Re: [RBW] Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Allan in Portland
Congratulations to you too, Brian. I sooo wanted to get in on one of those. 
You are the envy of my domain.

I can't help but wonder if those will go down as the last gratuitously 
extravagant frame before the Fed  Congress beggared (ahem, buggared) us 
all.

-Allan

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:18:18 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 Rob - great story, and I can relate!  I received my 54cm Hunqapillar 
 today.  It's gorgeous!  The packing job was impeccable, and I got some 
 doodle art on the box, as well.  

 I am in between sizes, so I originally rode a 54 and 58 while visiting Riv 
 HQ last summer.  Since I will be primarily using this for camping/off-road 
 as a foil for my AHH, I decided on the smaller frame size.  I really liked 
 the 54 with a moustache setup, so when I heard they were nearly out of the 
 original color, I had to pick one up.  Brian Tester helped out (he has a 
 54cm Hunq too).  I started the build today, but am waiting on a few parts.  
 Here's the pics so far:

 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzeCUFj 

 BTW - I put a Haulin' Colin rack (http://www.haulincolin.com/porteur.html) 
 that was originally designed for the newish Rawland rSogn on it.  It fits 
 just right, and makes a really solid mount the front.  He is doing another 
 batch soon, and was wondering if he should market this rack to Rivendell 
 owners.  I would say yes at this point - no modification is necessary on 
 the Hunqapillar, and if the hourglass mounts are in the same place on the 
 other Riv canti models, it should be a go for them, as well.

 Brian 
 Seattle, WA


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[RBW] Re: Tandem Transport?

2012-05-09 Thread Smitty
I used an Atoc tandem roof rack http://www.atoc.com/tandemtopper.php with 
the side brace to cart my Surly Big Dummy on the roof of my car. It worked 
well. Even if you go with the Thule rack (which is the Atoc rack with a 
different sticker)  I'd recommend tracking down an Atoc side brace to 
stabilize the bike... especially if you plan to drive on  dirt roads. 

--Andy
 

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:52:51 AM UTC-7, GeorgeS wrote:

 I have a nice tandem I want to take to Vt this summer.  I have a 
 medium size SUV (Honda Pilot) but with all my other stuff, there's not 
 enough room in the car for the bike.  I don't want to put it on the 
 rear rack because that's got all the regular bikes which leaves the 
 roof.  Does anyone have a recommendation for a roof rack for a tandem? 
 GeorgeS 
 New Orleans, La.

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Smitty
Warning: Do not click this 
link...https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/32ZjPdesS2aeLkpWIS0SJtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkhideous
 double top tube inside.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:

 I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these 
 double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found 
 nothing. 

 Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and 
 single tubes. 

 Thanks for filling me in.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Allan in Portland


On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:15:59 PM UTC-7, Statrixbob wrote:

 And the only bike I regret buying was fat-tubed, but too small road bike 
 about 25+ years ago. I was riding a too big Schwinn road bike  and got 
 talked into buying a new bike that was the right size. I wish I'd kept 
 the Schwinn...with any luck it's still on the road. As 


At the risk of taking this off-topic, I find it incredibly hard not to 
comment when someone is beaming over their new bike that is 2 to 4 _inches_ 
too small. Just yesterday my neighbor, that had been talking about getting 
a new Kona all winter long pulled up on what looked to be 56 Honky Tonk. 
He is about 6', maybe even 6'1. WTH? He's got 2 or 3 inches on me, and I'm 
riding a 59.

Believe me, I'll never be a downer over anyone's new bike, but aye, they 
sure make it hard don't they.

-Allan

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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
It's my fondest hope that, if asked, GP will say, ...because I felt like
it.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

 Z-Man: the line about logic/futility gave me a good chuckle. As a bicycle
 professional, who frequently tries new bikes, new component setups, new
 accessories, etc, I often have people ask me why did you do it THAT way?
 as if they expect a sophisticated response that will be logically
 infallible and revolutionary to all cycling wisdom hereafter. I just kinda
 like it, or I like to try new things, are disappointing responses to
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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread BSWP
A great thing about a 2TT bike is how easily one can mount two pumps. Or, 
fit a trapezoidal bag in the space between the 2TT, for carrying cucumbers 
and salami.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] 'Nother question; chain suck

2012-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've been scoring up the outside front end of my right chainstay on
the Fargo when shifts from the 36 to the 46 end with the big ring
dragging the bottom run of chain up between the stay and the inside of
the ring. The chain is only about 50% worn per my Park chain checker
and it is reasonably clean and lubed -- reasonably meaning that I
don't clean it after every ride in the dirt (dust and sand) but do so
after every few such rides. One of the cheaper SRAM chains, original
46/36/24 rings on the Sugino XD2; bastard home-made cassette if it
matters, which it probably does not. 8-sp XT rd, LX fd. 7 cogs
positioned in the 1-7 spots with two spacers at the back end.

I know I can install a bolt-on device to prevent this, but I want to
find the problem and fix it, not install a work around. I've ridden
doubles and triples on the same dirt for years without this happening.

So, what gives? Is it a chain issue? Time to buy some of those higher
quality KMCs? (Again, the current chain on the Fargo is a low level
SRAM.)

Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Smitty
My last comment was kind of snarky, so in an effort to redeem myself... 
here's an actual sincere response... 

I went with 2TT on a whim. I was placing my order on the phone and Grant 
said something like You can get 2tt on a 65 if you want. And I said 
something like uuu... sure but only if I get a 2nd head badge 
too. He said sure and I think I heard him smile over the phone. 

2 things I've found about the under tube that I really like... it provides 
a place to rest the palm of my hand when I shift (DT shifters). And it 
gives a solid place to lift/shoulder the bike even with a pump under the 
upper top tube. 

This is sort of anecdotal and its just an n of 1 so it might just be 
wishful thinking on my part... I've heard hilsen owners talk about their 
bikes being flexy when carrying a load. I've had weekend size loads on my 
2tt and it was solid. Mine got noticeably squirely when I had 60 pounds on 
the rear rack and 20 or so on the front but that was more me loading it up 
just to see what happened. Unloaded, I notice no stiffness difference 
between my 2tt and a friend's 1tt of the same size. But I buy into the idea 
that it adds stiffness when the bike is loaded.   

--Andy

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:

 I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these 
 double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found 
 nothing. 

 Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and 
 single tubes. 

 Thanks for filling me in.

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Re: [RBW] What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
I already hold the patent on those functions. So if you mention them again,
I'll have your legs broken.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Smitty 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:

 My last comment was kind of snarky, so in an effort to redeem myself...
 here's an actual sincere response...

 I went with 2TT on a whim. I was placing my order on the phone and Grant
 said something like You can get 2tt on a 65 if you want. And I said
 something like uuu... sure but only if I get a 2nd head badge
 too. He said sure and I think I heard him smile over the phone.

 2 things I've found about the under tube that I really like... it provides
 a place to rest the palm of my hand when I shift (DT shifters). And it
 gives a solid place to lift/shoulder the bike even with a pump under the
 upper top tube.

 This is sort of anecdotal and its just an n of 1 so it might just be
 wishful thinking on my part... I've heard hilsen owners talk about their
 bikes being flexy when carrying a load. I've had weekend size loads on my
 2tt and it was solid. Mine got noticeably squirely when I had 60 pounds on
 the rear rack and 20 or so on the front but that was more me loading it up
 just to see what happened. Unloaded, I notice no stiffness difference
 between my 2tt and a friend's 1tt of the same size. But I buy into the idea
 that it adds stiffness when the bike is loaded.

 --Andy

 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:

 I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these
 double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found
 nothing.

 Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and
 single tubes.

 Thanks for filling me in.

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Re: [RBW] Tandem Transport?

2012-05-09 Thread Leslie
On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:00:27 AM UTC-4, Seth Vidal wrote:

 Kinda off-topic (sadly riv doesn't make a tandem :() 


 
Doesn't make one YET!   Grant will, eventually, methinks...   


Just bummed my other half kinda gave up on riding... I'm enthralled w/ the 
idea of a Riv tandem, but, would be kinda under-utilized for me.. :(

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Kayakguy
Well I did talk to Rivendell and the response was it is definately for
function in that Grant felt the bikes need to be a bit stiffer.

I don't know, it's growing on me. Being a vegetarian I am not sure I
could carry a salami there, but maybe I could get by with a cucumber
or Zuchinni!

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Leslie
A fly rod. Every time I see a 2TT bike, I want to slip a fly rod in its 
tube in there.  

(Catch-n-release, since you're a vegetarian.)   (Well, I catch-n-release 
too, and am not.)




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 Well I did talk to Rivendell and the response was it is definately for 
 function in that Grant felt the bikes need to be a bit stiffer. 

 I don't know, it's growing on me. Being a vegetarian I am not sure I 
 could carry a salami there, but maybe I could get by with a cucumber 
 or Zuchinni! 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I earned the ire and exasperation of a shop employee when said
employee was trying to persuade a young man at least 6'4 tall that he
needed a -- wait for it! -- 56 cm. I snorted and growled and
spluttered and finally broke out in tones of dismay and disgust that,
hell, even I at at short-legg'd 5'10 had a very comfortable 60 cm
bike. I think the customer walked.

(Psst! Don't tell anyone, but my first custom Riv Road was a 54 c-c! I
told Grant I wanted to try to get it on the Riv gallery and he said,
Don't you dare!)

Patrick comfortable on 60s as long as the tts are short Moore, who
loves his Fargo because it has a road-bike-like 57 cm effective tt.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Allan in Portland
allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:


 On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:15:59 PM UTC-7, Statrixbob wrote:

 And the only bike I regret buying was fat-tubed, but too small road bike
 about 25+ years ago. I was riding a too big Schwinn road bike  and got
 talked into buying a new bike that was the right size. I wish I'd kept the
 Schwinn...with any luck it's still on the road. As


 At the risk of taking this off-topic, I find it incredibly hard not to
 comment when someone is beaming over their new bike that is 2 to 4 _inches_
 too small. Just yesterday my neighbor, that had been talking about getting a
 new Kona all winter long pulled up on what looked to be 56 Honky Tonk. He
 is about 6', maybe even 6'1. WTH? He's got 2 or 3 inches on me, and I'm
 riding a 59.

 Believe me, I'll never be a downer over anyone's new bike, but aye, they
 sure make it hard don't they.

 -Allan

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[RBW] Re: Finally hit the sweet spot with my Sam

2012-05-09 Thread Scot Brooks
Let me know how you like them, Minh. I have maybe 60 miles on mine so far and 
I'm really loving them. Possible Jack Brown competitor but I couldn't say 
myself. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Brian Hanson
I ride a 59 AHH and am about 5'11.  I've had a number of close bike-crazy
friends who think I'm nuts and on a frame that is too big.  Everyone has an
opinion.  I find it comfy, and would guess that I could easily go with a
61cm on a relatively flat top tube bike.  Getting the handlebars high
without having to use a really long stem height is more important to me
that worrying about how close the top tube is to my junk.  I'm of the
opinion that wanting to keep a low top tube is something the industry
legals did to minimize the new biker injury claims rather than educating
folks on how to ride a properly sized bike without hurting yourself.  The
problem is that your injury on a too small bike just takes longer to
manifest, but will definitely happen, whereas a bump on the junk only takes
one time to get folks in the mindset on how to avoid it in the future.

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.comwrote:



 On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:15:59 PM UTC-7, Statrixbob wrote:

 And the only bike I regret buying was fat-tubed, but too small road bike
 about 25+ years ago. I was riding a too big Schwinn road bike  and got
 talked into buying a new bike that was the right size. I wish I'd kept
 the Schwinn...with any luck it's still on the road. As


 At the risk of taking this off-topic, I find it incredibly hard not to
 comment when someone is beaming over their new bike that is 2 to 4 _inches_
 too small. Just yesterday my neighbor, that had been talking about getting
 a new Kona all winter long pulled up on what looked to be 56 Honky Tonk.
 He is about 6', maybe even 6'1. WTH? He's got 2 or 3 inches on me, and I'm
 riding a 59.

 Believe me, I'll never be a downer over anyone's new bike, but aye, they
 sure make it hard don't they.

 -Allan

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Re: [RBW] Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread robert zeidler
How about the article in the latest BQ where the 6'4 guy is on the 59cm
bike riding 171 mm cranks!

No way Jose!

RGZ

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

 I earned the ire and exasperation of a shop employee when said
 employee was trying to persuade a young man at least 6'4 tall that he
 needed a -- wait for it! -- 56 cm. I snorted and growled and
 spluttered and finally broke out in tones of dismay and disgust that,
 hell, even I at at short-legg'd 5'10 had a very comfortable 60 cm
 bike. I think the customer walked.

 (Psst! Don't tell anyone, but my first custom Riv Road was a 54 c-c! I
 told Grant I wanted to try to get it on the Riv gallery and he said,
 Don't you dare!)

 Patrick comfortable on 60s as long as the tts are short Moore, who
 loves his Fargo because it has a road-bike-like 57 cm effective tt.

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Allan in Portland
 allan_f...@aracnet.com javascript:; wrote:
 
 
  On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:15:59 PM UTC-7, Statrixbob wrote:
 
  And the only bike I regret buying was fat-tubed, but too small road bike
  about 25+ years ago. I was riding a too big Schwinn road bike  and got
  talked into buying a new bike that was the right size. I wish I'd
 kept the
  Schwinn...with any luck it's still on the road. As
 
 
  At the risk of taking this off-topic, I find it incredibly hard not to
  comment when someone is beaming over their new bike that is 2 to 4
 _inches_
  too small. Just yesterday my neighbor, that had been talking about
 getting a
  new Kona all winter long pulled up on what looked to be 56 Honky Tonk.
 He
  is about 6', maybe even 6'1. WTH? He's got 2 or 3 inches on me, and I'm
  riding a 59.
 
  Believe me, I'll never be a downer over anyone's new bike, but aye, they
  sure make it hard don't they.
 
  -Allan
 
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[RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Zack
Riding a frame that fits (and figuring out what that actually means) is a 
total revelation.

I am 6'3 with a 94 PBH.  When I first got into riding, it was on a 56cm 
Trek 520 that someone gave me. Needless to say, my 64cm Sam is much easier 
on my neck, back, shoulders, and even my legs/knees.  

Congrats on the Hunq.  

I rode both the 62 Hunq and the 64 Sam myself, and loved both.  I went with 
the Sam as I figured I would mostly be riding around town and haven't done 
much off-road exploring on the bike in VT.  Both felt better than any bike 
I had ever ridden.


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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Kelly
Stop it Smitty .. every time I see that gorgeous AHH with the 2TT I think 
of buying one.. I don't need it.. and I don't have a 68 cm Atlantis yet.. 
damn that was pretty.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:37:11 AM UTC-5, Smitty wrote:

 Warning: Do not click this 
 link...https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/32ZjPdesS2aeLkpWIS0SJtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkhideous
  double top tube inside.

 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:

 I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these 
 double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found 
 nothing. 

 Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and 
 single tubes. 

 Thanks for filling me in.



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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread William
Why'd Grant do it?

A.  He felt like it
B.  It's functional
C.  He felt like it was functional

I'm sticking with C.  

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:11:46 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:

 Stop it Smitty .. every time I see that gorgeous AHH with the 2TT I think 
 of buying one.. I don't need it.. and I don't have a 68 cm Atlantis yet.. 
 damn that was pretty.

 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:37:11 AM UTC-5, Smitty wrote:

 Warning: Do not click this 
 link...https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/32ZjPdesS2aeLkpWIS0SJtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkhideous
  double top tube inside.

 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:

 I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these 
 double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found 
 nothing. 

 Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and 
 single tubes. 

 Thanks for filling me in.



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[RBW] Re: Finally hit the sweet spot with my Sam

2012-05-09 Thread RoadieRyan
Ryan

All those dudes on Madones will be shaking their heads sadly as you
pass them on your nifty Mecier on the way to Longview on day 2 of
STP ;-)

On May 7, 11:26 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 You want nerdy?  Here's my STP bike (I 
 think):http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684316@N08/6828676862/in/photostream/

 Ryan

 On May 7, 4:04 pm, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote:







  Pardon the instagram quality; cameras are at the 
  office.http://imgur.com/GFvrj

  I was messing around with a dry-run setup for the Seattle to Portland ride
  and I think I've hit my own personal Sam Hillborne nirvana. Of course, this
  only applies to the 6 day per week Seattle city stuff, but the camping
  stuff can go on without much fuss. It goes like this:

  700x35 Schwalbe Marathon Racer HS366 (hardly any mention of these anywhere,
  but they're exceptionally good AND on sale from Schwalbe for $19.99 each at
  the moment). I have the 700x38 Greenguard, but I prefer these. They just
  feel right.

  11-30 cassette, 8 speed. I love the 12-36 Riv standard, but it's now on the
  camping rear wheel (Rhyno Lite 27mm, super gnarly)

  SKS Longboards will be back on soon, but I'm just treating myself this week
  while the weather's nice.

  Salsa Delgado Cross 36h wheels from Jim Thill. Absolutely fantastic skill
  from Jim of course. The dynohub front wheel gets to hang out in the closet
  till next winter.

  VO Model 6 saddle. Love it now that it's started to break in.

  Medium shopsack and saddlesack xs is the best combo I've found as an every
  day set up. The saddlesack large (and big rack) is just too much to mess
  with as an every day thing. This is better for me. Looks good too.

  Finally, my Sugino crank started life as a triple, transformed into a 36/24
  double with a guard, and has now transformed into a 40/24 double with a
  guard. Now I love it.

  If you've made it this far, thanks for reading my rambles. There's really
  only one group of people I can share this without feeling nerdy (and who
  will actually know what I'm going on about).

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[RBW] couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread Addison Wilhite
Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I
don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

But when I read this description on the website:

Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame
design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube
slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it.
As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where
it's comfortable.

If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the 60.
Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most 6-4ers
ride the 64.

**

It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of
things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the
production models.

45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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Re: [RBW] couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Soo how tall are you?  I just take those to be rough figures,  not a manual
per se.
On May 9, 2012 3:29 PM, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it.
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where
 it's comfortable.

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most
 6-4ers ride the 64.

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Scot Brooks
With the racing and want-to-look-racy world of bike fitment, it seems like they 
had a weird line of thinking that went a little like this: better get the stem 
way down, that's racy. Bike doesn't fit now that the stem is like that? Better 
get a smaller frame to bring the bars closer, don't even think about raising 
that stem, mister. Sort of a cart following the horse moment. Really weird. 

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Re: [RBW] couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread Addison Wilhite
5'6...sorry, I didn't mention that.  Pretty evenly proportioned (not a
long torso with monkey arms).  :)

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 Soo how tall are you?  I just take those to be rough figures,  not a
 manual per se.
 On May 9, 2012 3:29 PM, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it.
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where
 it's comfortable.

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most
 6-4ers ride the 64.

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
The four cm jump is at least consistent, I wouldn't take it personally :-)

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:29:27 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I 
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame 
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube 
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it. 
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where 
 it's comfortable. 

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the 
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most 
 6-4ers ride the 64. 

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of 
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the 
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread Kayakguy
Haha...That's probably it to a T!

On May 9, 3:18 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why'd Grant do it?

 A.  He felt like it
 B.  It's functional
 C.  He felt like it was functional

 I'm sticking with C.



 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:11:46 PM UTC-7, Kelly wrote:

  Stop it Smitty .. every time I see that gorgeous AHH with the 2TT I think
  of buying one.. I don't need it.. and I don't have a 68 cm Atlantis yet..
  damn that was pretty.

  On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 11:37:11 AM UTC-5, Smitty wrote:

  Warning: Do not click this 
  link...https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/32ZjPdesS2aeLkpWIS0SJtMTjNZETYm...hideous
   double top tube inside.

  On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Kayakguy wrote:

  I haven't been to the Rivendell site for awhile and I see all these
  double tubes. I looked for a post on here or on the site but found
  nothing.

  Is this standard now? I see pictures of the same model with double and
  single tubes.

  Thanks for filling me in.- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread Peter Morgano
Well that is on the Sam, the budget bike for tweeners like you and I at a
short legged 5 10 you have to go whole hog and get the AHH or go Big Riv
and get the 52 and a short riser stem like the periscopa or dirt drop.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com 
cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 The four cm jump is at least consistent, I wouldn't take it personally :-)


 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:29:27 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it.
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where
 it's comfortable.

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most
 6-4ers ride the 64.

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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Re: [RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread Addison Wilhite
I totally was taking it personally when reading the Sam H description!  :)

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com 
cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 The four cm jump is at least consistent, I wouldn't take it personally :-)


 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:29:27 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it.
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where
 it's comfortable.

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most
 6-4ers ride the 64.

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread TSW
Sorry if this is a repeat.  I'm looking for a way to carry a 13 laptop 
(Macbook Pro 13 to be exact) in something like a Sackville Medium 
saddlebag.  I'd like to protect it as well as possible, and am considering 
a hardshell case, such as a Pelican case (1085CC or equivalent).  Anyone 
have any experience in securely shlepping a laptop in a saddlebag? 
 According to the dimensions, the Sackville Medium is nominally narrower 
than the outside dimensions of the Pelican 1085.  But I figure there's some 
give, no?

And, my commute will be multi-modal: I'll want to be able to pull it out 
easily for the motorized leg of my trip.

I'd like to hear any other solutions and experience.

TIA,
TSW
Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I think Rivendell's past discrimination against 5'6 individuals is well 
documented by this point :-)

It's along the lines of the No-Homers fraternal organization.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 1:09:00 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 I totally was taking it personally when reading the Sam H description!  :)

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 The four cm jump is at least consistent, I wouldn't take it personally :-)


 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:29:27 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I 
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame 
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube 
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it. 
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where 
 it's comfortable. 

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the 
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most 
 6-4ers ride the 64. 

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of 
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the 
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Surly Karate Monkey for sale...though I would mention this on here.

2012-05-09 Thread jinxed
I am selling my Karate Monkey which I guess is lo-fi for a mountain bike. 
Not sure if it peaks any interest here, but surly seems to get some love.

It's set up geared 1x9, but will *also* ship with a SS wheelset. I'll pick 
up shipping for list members in the states. Alaska, Hawaii??? probably some 
additional.

Any questions, hit me up.

Here's my Denver craigs ad:

http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/3004174212.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The 52 should be just fine.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:09:00 PM UTC-5, Addison wrote:

 I totally was taking it personally when reading the Sam H description!  :)

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com 
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 The four cm jump is at least consistent, I wouldn't take it personally :-)


 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 12:29:27 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I 
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame 
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube 
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it. 
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where 
 it's comfortable. 

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the 
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most 
 6-4ers ride the 64. 

 **

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of 
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the 
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Harrop
I do it lots. I carry a 15″ MBP in a Large SaddleSack in one of these 
Crumpler 
sleeveshttp://www.crumpler.com/AU/Laptop-Bags/Laptop-Carrying-Cases/School-Hymn-L.html?LanguageCode=ENSKU=SHN001-G00170
.

My girlfriend carries her 15″ MBP in a Medium SaddleSack in one of these Ron 
D. Swan 
sleeveshttp://www.rondswan.com/products.php?p=29desc=Ron-D-Swan-Padded-Laptop-Sleeve-Padded-ipad-Sleeve-Macbook-Case.
 
The sleeve only just fits flat in the bottom of the SaddleSack.

In case it's not clear the laptop sits in the sleeve on the bottom of the 
SaddleSack, then you pile your other stuff on top. I've been doing it twice 
a day for well over a year now with no problems. I far prefer having it sit 
flat on the rack in a saddle bag to my previous arrangement, which was to 
carry it in an Ortlieb pannier where it was able to bounce around 
vertically and laterally (if you see what I mean).

I take the SaddleSack off when I park my bike and carry it into my office. 
It takes about 10 seconds to get it off and maybe 30 to put back on again. 
Ortliebs may be quicker but lose out big time on shape and size to the 
SaddleSacks, in my humble IMHO.

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread Tom Harrop
Oops, I meant the 15″ Crumpler 
sleevehttp://www.crumpler.com/AU/Laptop-Bags/Laptop-Carrying-Cases/School-Hymn-M.html?LanguageCode=ENSKU=SHN001-B00150.
 
But I'm confident the 17″ would fit in a large SaddleSack...

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread Zack
I carry a laptop in my large saddlesack (17 Macbook Pro).

I have it in an incase sleeve, and generally put a jacket or something else 
soft underneath the sleeved laptop to help with bumps. 

may be a tight fit in the medium, but the 13 would fit in the large (as 
pretty much anything can fit in the large, lol). 

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:27:16 PM UTC-4, TSW wrote:

 Sorry if this is a repeat.  I'm looking for a way to carry a 13 laptop 
 (Macbook Pro 13 to be exact) in something like a Sackville Medium 
 saddlebag.  I'd like to protect it as well as possible, and am considering 
 a hardshell case, such as a Pelican case (1085CC or equivalent).  Anyone 
 have any experience in securely shlepping a laptop in a saddlebag? 
  According to the dimensions, the Sackville Medium is nominally narrower 
 than the outside dimensions of the Pelican 1085.  But I figure there's some 
 give, no?

 And, my commute will be multi-modal: I'll want to be able to pull it out 
 easily for the motorized leg of my trip.

 I'd like to hear any other solutions and experience.

 TIA,
 TSW
 Berkeley


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[RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness

2012-05-09 Thread RJM
I'm 5-6.5 tall, have a PBH of 79 and am riding a taiwan orange canti 
post 48cm Sam.  It fits wonderfully and that is the size they told me to 
get.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:29:27 PM UTC-5, Addison wrote:

 Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I 
 don't know when I'll be getting another Riv...

 But when I read this description on the website:

  Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame 
 design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube 
 slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it. 
 As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where 
 it's comfortable. 

 If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the 
 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most 
 6-4ers ride the 64. 

 ** 

 It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of 
 things.  Anybody else in the same boat as I am?   At least in terms of the 
 production models.

 45 and still a tween apparently.  :(

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[RBW] Re: What is the deal with the double top tubes?

2012-05-09 Thread dougP
Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.
No, you've got your priorities straight. We've discussed the 2TT
subject ad nauseum here,  I doubt anyone changed their mind as a
result.

Now I kind of want an Atlantis,...  The Atlantis is ...unchanged
since 1999.75  There have been reports of additional rack
mounting eyelets on later versions but that's about it.

Get an Atlantis; you will not regret it.  Grant hit the bullseye  is
unlikely to change his aim.

dougP

On May 9, 8:16 am, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Well I guess it has been awhile since I have been there. I have been
 enjoying riding my Rambouillet too much to feel the need to shop.
 Probably should have spent less time riding and more time surfing.

   or maybe a Hilborn or I don't know. A
 light tourer I guess for commuting and dreaming about longer rides.
 That way I can strip the rack off the Rambouillet and keep her slim.

 On May 9, 11:06 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:



  Uhh, not to be a jerk but when was the last time you were on the site? I
  believe this has been the norm for at least the 4 years I have been poking
  around.  You could call RBW and see if they have your size in a singe TT,
  the old attic is full of surprises.

  On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Kayakguy beeho...@hotmail.com wrote:
   I knew about the Bombadil having a double, but I gues you are saying
   all the medium sizes like 58 or 60 would still be single? I hope
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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread Burton
I carry my 15 laptop in a medium and have for years with no sleeve at
all. I just added a lyer of foam above the stiffener in the bottom of
the sackville. I also have a Nitto quick release handle which makes
taking it on and off the bike incredibly easy.

On May 9, 6:02 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote:
 I carry a laptop in my large saddlesack (17 Macbook Pro).

 I have it in an incase sleeve, and generally put a jacket or something else
 soft underneath the sleeved laptop to help with bumps.

 may be a tight fit in the medium, but the 13 would fit in the large (as
 pretty much anything can fit in the large, lol).







 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 5:27:16 PM UTC-4, TSW wrote:

  Sorry if this is a repeat.  I'm looking for a way to carry a 13 laptop
  (Macbook Pro 13 to be exact) in something like a Sackville Medium
  saddlebag.  I'd like to protect it as well as possible, and am considering
  a hardshell case, such as a Pelican case (1085CC or equivalent).  Anyone
  have any experience in securely shlepping a laptop in a saddlebag?
   According to the dimensions, the Sackville Medium is nominally narrower
  than the outside dimensions of the Pelican 1085.  But I figure there's some
  give, no?

  And, my commute will be multi-modal: I'll want to be able to pull it out
  easily for the motorized leg of my trip.

  I'd like to hear any other solutions and experience.

  TIA,
  TSW
  Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread Jim
I have an older version of this REI briefcase:

http://www.rei.com/product/809169/rei-quantum-checkpoint-brief

I use the detachable sleeve and put it in my large Sackville saddlesack, 
where it fits with plenty of room.  It very well may work with the medium

Jim in Boulder

On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:27:16 PM UTC-6, TSW wrote:

 Sorry if this is a repeat.  I'm looking for a way to carry a 13 laptop 
 (Macbook Pro 13 to be exact) in something like a Sackville Medium 
 saddlebag.  I'd like to protect it as well as possible, and am considering 
 a hardshell case, such as a Pelican case (1085CC or equivalent).  Anyone 
 have any experience in securely shlepping a laptop in a saddlebag? 
  According to the dimensions, the Sackville Medium is nominally narrower 
 than the outside dimensions of the Pelican 1085.  But I figure there's some 
 give, no?

 And, my commute will be multi-modal: I'll want to be able to pull it out 
 easily for the motorized leg of my trip.

 I'd like to hear any other solutions and experience.

 TIA,
 TSW
 Berkeley


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[RBW] Re: Ordered a Hunq today....

2012-05-09 Thread Jim
When I started looking for a new bicycle last year (for the first time in a 
lonnng time), I got put on some spectacularly small frames (i'm 6-8), 
including a Specialized Crosstrail, and some Giant bike that was around 
60cm.  And they would have happily sold me those bikes.  I think it was the 
third LBS i entered where someone finally told me dude, we got nothing, 
you need a custom.  Fortunately I found Riv and the AHH.

Jim in Boulder

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:27:14 PM UTC-6, Statrixbob wrote:

 I just happened to be in Walnut Creek today and...

 Okay, I actually had planned my vacation this year to include San 
 Francisco and Walnut Creek. I arrived yesterday after spending the last 12 
 days or so biking the Oregon coast and spending time with family in 
 Portland. I'd added a leg to SF when I discovered it wasn't very expensive 
 to add the leg to my ticket and I got a great deal at The Mosser in SF that 
 made an extra 5 days possible. Admittedly it's a tiny little room, but 
 holds me and my bike so there you go.

 Today I took the BART out to Walnut Creek thinking that Grant would be off 
 on his book tour but he was in town, actually doing some other publicity 
 stuff. I got to meet him in person, get a copy of his book, and then worked 
 with Vince on a little something else.

 I had my PBH remeasured and sure enough, I'm still mostly leg, at least 
 95.5 (and I'd thought I was 94). 

 I test rode the 64 Sam and the 62 Hunq.

 Both were fantastic. The Hunq was just slightly more fantastic for me. I 
 stress the for me bit because it could easily be the other way around for 
 someone else. I just like really fat tires and riding on the Big Apples 
 they had attached showed me just how comfortable that bike can be.

 I went with the stock build kit for a couple of reasons. First it's good 
 stuff and does save me a bit on the build. In a perfect world I might have 
 toyed with a few things but that would have added unnecessarily to the 
 cost. In the future I'll upgrade when things wear out.

 The only thing that concerns me is the Alba bars. They were really nice on 
 the test Hunq I rode, though I'm a moustache guy. I'm thinking that I may 
 swap the Albas on the Hunq with the M-bars on my QB. I use the QB around 
 town for the most part. That'll be like getting two new bikes. :-)

 After spending all that money I spent the afternoon on the trails leading 
 up to Mount Diablo. I didn't go up because it was hot and late in the day, 
 I hadn't eaten much today, and I only had one bottle of water. That and I 
 didn't want to climb 2,000 feet after all the climbing in Oregon. It was 
 still a lovely day for a ride and next time I'm in the Bay Area I know 
 exactly how to get there. :-)

 All in all it was great to meet Grant, Vince is a great guy, the Hunq is a 
 super bike, and I'm still a bike short, I only have 'n' bikes.

 My arsenal now includes (as of July)

 62 Hunq 
 66 Quickbeam
 ?? RB-1 (in Hilo)
 Bike Friday New World Tourist
 Fujiyama (a house brand for McCully Bicycle back in the day) single speed 
 beater (freshly powder coated and shod with Big Apples)


 That'll do it for a while.

 -- 
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 statrix.com

  
On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:27:14 PM UTC-6, Statrixbob wrote:

 I just happened to be in Walnut Creek today and...

 Okay, I actually had planned my vacation this year to include San 
 Francisco and Walnut Creek. I arrived yesterday after spending the last 12 
 days or so biking the Oregon coast and spending time with family in 
 Portland. I'd added a leg to SF when I discovered it wasn't very expensive 
 to add the leg to my ticket and I got a great deal at The Mosser in SF that 
 made an extra 5 days possible. Admittedly it's a tiny little room, but 
 holds me and my bike so there you go.

 Today I took the BART out to Walnut Creek thinking that Grant would be off 
 on his book tour but he was in town, actually doing some other publicity 
 stuff. I got to meet him in person, get a copy of his book, and then worked 
 with Vince on a little something else.

 I had my PBH remeasured and sure enough, I'm still mostly leg, at least 
 95.5 (and I'd thought I was 94). 

 I test rode the 64 Sam and the 62 Hunq.

 Both were fantastic. The Hunq was just slightly more fantastic for me. I 
 stress the for me bit because it could easily be the other way around for 
 someone else. I just like really fat tires and riding on the Big Apples 
 they had attached showed me just how comfortable that bike can be.

 I went with the stock build kit for a couple of reasons. First it's good 
 stuff and does save me a bit on the build. In a perfect world I might have 
 toyed with a few things but that would have added unnecessarily to the 
 cost. In the future I'll upgrade when things wear out.

 The only thing that concerns me is the Alba bars. They were really nice on 
 the test Hunq I rode, though I'm a moustache guy. I'm thinking that I may 
 swap the Albas on the 

[RBW] Re: Saddlebags for carrying a laptop?

2012-05-09 Thread Blindrobert
+! on the sackville saddlesack.  Just put it in a padded sleeve of
some kind and go for it. Never had any problem.

On May 9, 7:44 pm, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have an older version of this REI briefcase:

 http://www.rei.com/product/809169/rei-quantum-checkpoint-brief

 I use the detachable sleeve and put it in my large Sackville saddlesack,
 where it fits with plenty of room.  It very well may work with the medium

 Jim in Boulder







 On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:27:16 PM UTC-6, TSW wrote:

  Sorry if this is a repeat.  I'm looking for a way to carry a 13 laptop
  (Macbook Pro 13 to be exact) in something like a Sackville Medium
  saddlebag.  I'd like to protect it as well as possible, and am considering
  a hardshell case, such as a Pelican case (1085CC or equivalent).  Anyone
  have any experience in securely shlepping a laptop in a saddlebag?
   According to the dimensions, the Sackville Medium is nominally narrower
  than the outside dimensions of the Pelican 1085.  But I figure there's some
  give, no?

  And, my commute will be multi-modal: I'll want to be able to pull it out
  easily for the motorized leg of my trip.

  I'd like to hear any other solutions and experience.

  TIA,
  TSW
  Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Badge Poster - Now in High Res

2012-05-09 Thread Marty
Thanks! Honestly, I hope there is always another nameless bike in 
development, and that the poster will never be complete. I will, however, 
update it when the newest bike (badge and all) is complete. FYI - for those 
interested, shipping costs have outpaced my estimates, (I'm using USPS 
Priority) as have production costs, so I need to bump the price up to $30 
to cover all that. Can't pull the trigger on a large enough batch to get 
better pricing. I do offer multiple discounts though, and may be in the 
mood for a trade+$ or two, (still looking for a good five speed freewheel, 
a large Sackville trunksack in black, a Paul silver Gino mount, or ?) just 
send me a note off list. 

Marty

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[RBW] Help me choose my next Riv!

2012-05-09 Thread Tim
Ok, please help me out. I had to send my fork to Waterford to have the
stuck stem removed and the gravity of not having a second Riv has sunk
in. I'm stuck riding a way too small Cannondale or an old
Specialized Rockhopper which is, although a decent bike, also too
small (and not a Riv.) So, now it's time to choose. Right now I have a
63cm AHH with noodle bars and longboard fenders. At least 90% or more
of my riding is on the road. I did a supported Southern Tier tour last
summer and would like to do at least one, unsupported (though lightly
loaded) tour this year and more in the future. I like the occasional
fast club ride. In fact, I really, really like them, but I'm not as
fast as I used to be (51 with 2 artificial knees.) I bought the old
MTB for single track last year and found it to be a blast.

So my dilemma: Which should be my next Riv? Hunqa or Rodeo? I will
eventually have both but I'll order one of them probably very soon. By
the time I get Homer's fork back I'll have been without it for 3 weeks
and that, my friends, is unacceptable. I love the fast riding and I
actually was planning on the Rodeo when I got the AHH but changed my
mind after talking with Keven and Grant. Do you guys think the Rodeo
is too close to the Homer and too limited? I guess if I got it I would
probably go with racks and more of a touring setup for Homer. Or if I
got the Hunqa, maybe I could strip down Homer and use it for the
clubbish rides. But where does that leave the occasional single track
foray? What say ye all?

Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] 63cm romulus?

2012-05-09 Thread Seth Vidal
Does anyone on the list have a 63cm romulus? I'm curious about
something - so if you have one and would be willing to talk to me
about it, drop me a line.

thanks
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[RBW] Re: Help me choose my next Riv!

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I'd get a Roadeo for fast club rides, deck out the AHH for touring,
and use the Rockhopper for singletrack.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On May 9, 7:06 pm, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:
 Ok, please help me out. I had to send my fork to Waterford to have the
 stuck stem removed and the gravity of not having a second Riv has sunk
 in. I'm stuck riding a way too small Cannondale or an old
 Specialized Rockhopper which is, although a decent bike, also too
 small (and not a Riv.) So, now it's time to choose. Right now I have a
 63cm AHH with noodle bars and longboard fenders. At least 90% or more
 of my riding is on the road. I did a supported Southern Tier tour last
 summer and would like to do at least one, unsupported (though lightly
 loaded) tour this year and more in the future. I like the occasional
 fast club ride. In fact, I really, really like them, but I'm not as
 fast as I used to be (51 with 2 artificial knees.) I bought the old
 MTB for single track last year and found it to be a blast.

 So my dilemma: Which should be my next Riv? Hunqa or Rodeo? I will
 eventually have both but I'll order one of them probably very soon. By
 the time I get Homer's fork back I'll have been without it for 3 weeks
 and that, my friends, is unacceptable. I love the fast riding and I
 actually was planning on the Rodeo when I got the AHH but changed my
 mind after talking with Keven and Grant. Do you guys think the Rodeo
 is too close to the Homer and too limited? I guess if I got it I would
 probably go with racks and more of a touring setup for Homer. Or if I
 got the Hunqa, maybe I could strip down Homer and use it for the
 clubbish rides. But where does that leave the occasional single track
 foray? What say ye all?

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose my next Riv!

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
My $.02:  Keep the AHH as is, get a properly sized Cannondale CAAD10 for
the fast club rides (when in Rome...) and then get the Hunq which could be
for most of your dirt rides and loaded touring. You can ride the AHH in
everything in between included mixed-surface rides and supported touring,
even some light self-contained. Depending on how fast you ride in the dirt,
keep the RH or sell depending on what you find yourself riding (slow dirt =
less need for suspension).



On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd get a Roadeo for fast club rides, deck out the AHH for touring,
 and use the Rockhopper for singletrack.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On May 9, 7:06 pm, Tim tki...@comcast.net wrote:
  Ok, please help me out. I had to send my fork to Waterford to have the
  stuck stem removed and the gravity of not having a second Riv has sunk
  in. I'm stuck riding a way too small Cannondale or an old
  Specialized Rockhopper which is, although a decent bike, also too
  small (and not a Riv.) So, now it's time to choose. Right now I have a
  63cm AHH with noodle bars and longboard fenders. At least 90% or more
  of my riding is on the road. I did a supported Southern Tier tour last
  summer and would like to do at least one, unsupported (though lightly
  loaded) tour this year and more in the future. I like the occasional
  fast club ride. In fact, I really, really like them, but I'm not as
  fast as I used to be (51 with 2 artificial knees.) I bought the old
  MTB for single track last year and found it to be a blast.
 
  So my dilemma: Which should be my next Riv? Hunqa or Rodeo? I will
  eventually have both but I'll order one of them probably very soon. By
  the time I get Homer's fork back I'll have been without it for 3 weeks
  and that, my friends, is unacceptable. I love the fast riding and I
  actually was planning on the Rodeo when I got the AHH but changed my
  mind after talking with Keven and Grant. Do you guys think the Rodeo
  is too close to the Homer and too limited? I guess if I got it I would
  probably go with racks and more of a touring setup for Homer. Or if I
  got the Hunqa, maybe I could strip down Homer and use it for the
  clubbish rides. But where does that leave the occasional single track
  foray? What say ye all?
 
  Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Help me choose my next Riv!

2012-05-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Presumably you're not interested in doing what I did: I love my 60cm Hillborne 
so much I got a second one (different color). Now I'll likely never be without 
my dream bike. But if you feel your AHH isn't perfect for any potential 
touring, well...

My vote: Get the Hunqapillar if the 62 fits. Get a 60 Hillborne if it doesn't. 
If you stay on road virtually all the time, either will sub for the AHH should 
it be on hiatus in future. And either will tour lightly (or not-so-lightly, for 
that matter) loaded. The Roadeo is limited as a sub for the AHH. Spend any 
savings on Nitto and Sackville finery. And/or really good lights.

After you have for redundancy needs taken care of (and also have probably 
expanded your capabilities a bit) *then* get the Roadeo. Then a Brompton. 
Then a Betty. ... :)

Enjoy!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Romulus 59cm ~ frame/fork/105 headset/wheels/bb

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
Eric, just saw the CL
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/3005629023.htmlposting, looks like
a great bike!

Roms were one of the best bikes Rivendell sold IMHO. Someone needs to buy
this!



On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bump...$800 + shipping. I have a LOAD of photos, email me if you'd
 like to see 'em.

 - Eric

 On May 4, 6:31 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:
  fs: RivendellRomulus59cm. No dents. Includes frame/fork and 105
  headset.
  Also included is a Shimano 105/Araya RC540 wheelset. The rear rim has
  a very slight dent in the edge, that was there when I got the bike.
  Makes no difference functionally. Wheel rolls true. All parts included
  are parts the bike originally came with. BB also included. $900 plus
  shipping to conus only.
 
  My only two photos at the current time:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/78eyze8http://tinyurl.com/7o2ypxb

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Re: [RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Romulus 59cm ~ frame/fork/105 headset/wheels/bb

2012-05-09 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eric, just saw the CL posting, looks like a great bike!

 Roms were one of the best bikes Rivendell sold IMHO. Someone needs to buy
 this!


I concur. I will go a while without riding mine (riding the hilsen
instead) and then when I go back to it I sometimes thing hmmm, I
should spend more time on this bike.


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Re: [RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Romulus 59cm ~ frame/fork/105 headset/wheels/bb

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
The bike:$$$ ratio was pretty amazing on them. The San Marcos now fills
that role. But this was a Rivendell, not a third party bike. Pretty cool!

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Eric, just saw the CL posting, looks like a great bike!
 
  Roms were one of the best bikes Rivendell sold IMHO. Someone needs to buy
  this!
 

 I concur. I will go a while without riding mine (riding the hilsen
 instead) and then when I go back to it I sometimes thing hmmm, I
 should spend more time on this bike.


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[RBW] Re: Help me choose my next Riv!

2012-05-09 Thread Mike
I've had my 63cm Hilsen for almost 4yrs and feel it makes an excellent
all round road bike. I've used it for road riding, brevets, s24o's,
and even a 9 day tour. Having different tires can really impact the
way it feels. I felt it performed the most poorly as a touring bike.
With summer coming, and plans for possible touring, it sounds like the
Hunqa is the bike for you. As others pointed out, if you're gonna tour
on the road consider the SH. Or why not just see if RBW will make you
a 64cm Atlantis? I'd pass on the Roadeo for the time being.

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[RBW] New Bike = 64 Rambouillet Frame F/S

2012-05-09 Thread rob markwardt
Greetings,
My Rambouillet has been replaced so I'm seeking a new home for
it.  It's been a great bike but the garage is small and it hasn't been
getting many miles recently.  It's a 64, green, no dents, some paint
rub and a few scratches.  Comes with a logoless Shimano headset
(Ultegra I believe).  I've had the bike for about 3.5 years, 2nd
owner have had some great rides on it.  It's been ridden but
certainly not crazy mileage...(the beauty of a garageful is that the
miles get spread around).  I can pack and will ship FedEx from
Seattle.  Pics below...more available...questions let me know.  $775
plus shipping.

Rambouillet  frame  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157629660723644/

The NEW bike http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157629660677592/


Thanks,
Rob Markwardt
Seattle, Wa

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Re: [RBW] New Bike = 64 Rambouillet Frame F/S

2012-05-09 Thread cyclotourist
The only thing better than a Rom is a Ram!!!

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:34 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Greetings,
My Rambouillet has been replaced so I'm seeking a new home for
 it.  It's been a great bike but the garage is small and it hasn't been
 getting many miles recently.  It's a 64, green, no dents, some paint
 rub and a few scratches.  Comes with a logoless Shimano headset
 (Ultegra I believe).  I've had the bike for about 3.5 years, 2nd
 owner have had some great rides on it.  It's been ridden but
 certainly not crazy mileage...(the beauty of a garageful is that the
 miles get spread around).  I can pack and will ship FedEx from
 Seattle.  Pics below...more available...questions let me know.  $775
 plus shipping.

 Rambouillet  frame
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157629660723644/

 The NEW bike
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157629660677592/


 Thanks,
 Rob Markwardt
 Seattle, Wa

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