Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)
Riv refers to the AHH as a Country Bike. Intended for dirt fire roads as well as smooth pavement. Lighter loads as you say. You can read Riv's comparison of the two models on Cyclofiend at the link below: (The article refers to Saluki, which is the same bike in smaller sizes as AHH) http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr37_pg14.jpg On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: The Bleriot and SH were/are built with thicker tubes than the AHH, correct? My AHH felt very springy/lively, just like my Romulus did. I would say both are more road-only lighter-load biased than the Bleriot and Hillborne. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nifty Swiftys
These tires are no longer available. Thanks for looking, Steve On Saturday, July 7, 2012 5:07:06 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: One pair of Nifty Swiftys (650b). These tires have 152 miles on them. Reason for sale: I got a great deal on some Pari Motos and I don't foresee needing the Nifty Swiftys. Also, I need to finance framing for my Poster. How about $55 plus actual shipping? Attentiion East Coasters: I live in Maryland, shipping will be less than to the West Coast. Local delivery to the DC metro area is a possibillity. Please email off-list, I think it will work. If not, respond here. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ypL12GwKV78J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?
Honestly, I don't get conversions like this. Canti posts add complication to any conversion so that's one issue. Also, the original intent of 650b conversions of road bikes was to add fat tire and fender versatility to an otherwise limited 700c-equipped bike, ie a low clearance, high BB racy/crit bike--trying to add versatility to a bike as versatile as the Atlantis seems an exercise in futility. And messing about with something so perfectly suited to its intent and function, and designed by GP to boot seems almost sacrilege. There are plenty of bikes out there that can be improved by a conversion like this, but the Atlantis doesn't seem like one of them to me. What's that old saw about just because you can does not mean you should...? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?
In my case it was not so dire nor malicious. I really wanted to try Hetres and the Atlantis was the only one ( of around 10 bikes) that would fit them. Short of obtaining another frame, it was the choice. I have often thought and said that if I had to live with only one bike ( oh my!), it would be the Atlantis with several wheelsets. My Atlantis is amazingly versatile and useful and I love it even more now that I can play with it as a 659b bike. On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Steven Frederick wrote: Honestly, I don't get conversions like this. Canti posts add complication to any conversion so that's one issue. Also, the original intent of 650b conversions of road bikes was to add fat tire and fender versatility to an otherwise limited 700c-equipped bike, ie a low clearance, high BB racy/crit bike--trying to add versatility to a bike as versatile as the Atlantis seems an exercise in futility. And messing about with something so perfectly suited to its intent and function, and designed by GP to boot seems almost sacrilege. There are plenty of bikes out there that can be improved by a conversion like this, but the Atlantis doesn't seem like one of them to me. What's that old saw about just because you can does not mean you should...? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
Most Riv customs have a lot drop 80mm like mine a long low not built for me, but it is the best riding bike I ever rode. Conversions with low bottom brackets are not recommended see… http://www.freewebs.com/650b/conversions.htm. Rivendell models are very stoutly built, for someone at 135 pounds they would not be a good bike, way too stiff, unless you want to carry over 100 pounds of stuff then the Homer would be a good choice. But with the custom they may have been made lighter. Contact Rivendell and see if you can find out how much the person weighted the bike was built for. Good luck Tom Dusky Huntington Woods, MI On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:53:12 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: So a friend of mine (seriously, not me!) wants to know if this custom on ebay will take a 650b/hetre conversion. I am not too familiar with these older Rivs so thought I would ask if anyone here has done this kind of thing. I would think the Dia-compe Mod 750s would get you the reach but again, will the bb drop be too much and will it even fit the Hetres or is this guy dreaming? He really wants a 650b/Hetre bike but wants something more roady than the AHH/SH since he is only 135lbs. Just spitballing here, thanks all. Link to bike on the Bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Rivendell-Road-custom-57-cm-/120947913999?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item1c290eb50f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PB2SiR0qrYoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.
Nice story Mikei was wondering what tires you have on the Hilsen, and how do they work on those trails/pavement? On Jul 10, 3:28 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: The weather here in Portland has been beautiful lately. Downright exceptional over the past three days while I was at work. I woke up this morning and it was cooler but could tell it would burn off. My wife is out of town and we have a puppy so I can't get away for all day rides but I did get in a 3hr ramble passing through Forest Park twice. When I first entered Forest Park and ended up taking Fire Rd 1 which I had never ridden before. It's quite steep in parts and so I just dismounted and just walked a few sections which was fine. I was on my Hilsen and one area where it doesn't do so great is steep scrabbly climbs. I guess I could have muscled up the climb but that just didn't seem fun. I exited Forest Park and headed up to Skyline on the pavement and took that for a little ways before dropping back down into Forest Park via Saltzman and made my way down to Hwy 30 and across the St Johns Bridge and back home, stopping for tacos and ice cream along the way. It was just a really great ride. I was on my Hilsen with platform pedals and wearing some Musa shorts and an LL Bean seersucker/hiking shirt I recently purchased on sale. The shirt worked well except for on descents where it tends to flap in the wind a bit too much for my taste. I guess I could tuck it in and the problem would be solved. After spending so much time focused on randonneuring for the past couple of months it was really nice to just get out for a ramble. I'll do some variation on the ride tomorrow and the next day. When my wife returns I'll hopefully get out for an overnight camping trip. Here's a photo set:http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157630519177722/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)
Hi Joan, It was fun riding with you today, and I'm glad you like my AHH. I think the Bleriot has slightly heavier tubing, more in line with the Atlantis or Sam H, than the AHH. This might account for some of the ride differences you described. My very happy with the AHH and look forward to doing some touring later this summer. I'm planning a ride on the Great Allegheny Passage as soon as I receive and install some racks on the bike. Richard On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:32:37 PM UTC-4, Joan wrote: I led a group ride this morning for one of the local bike clubs. Richard showed up with his brand new A Homer Hilsen. He's very excited about the bike, has posted here about his excitement (blueride2). It's a pretty standard Riv build. I took my Bleriot to the ride - another standard Riv build. Differences are: Bleriot has Hetres (45 front, 50 rear), AHH has Jack Browns (at 70 front and rear) Bleriot has SKS fenders, AHH is fenderless (though he is waiting for the fenders). Bleriot is a 53, AHH is a 55. Bleriot has a trunk bag and rack(multi-tool, spare, patch kit) and rack, AHH had just a tiny seatbag. Since I can ride a 55, I took Richard's bike for a short spin. Wow, was I impressed. It felt - sprightly, lively. Definitely different than the Bleriot. I'm wondering why. There's maybe a slight difference in weight between the two bikes, by feel. Is it the tires? the tubeset? Joan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0D4wsYofUJsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)
From the Rivendell website; The Sam Hillborne is the replacement for the* Bleriot,* with some differences. It's a cross between the Atlantis, our cantilever-braked touring bike, and the A. Homer HIlsen, our roadish country bike. It's a cross... means it has tubing halfway in between the two (in *wall thickness.*..) and the 40mm max tire clearance (and straight chainstays) of the A.Homer Hilsen. I imagine the AHH has slightly heavier tubing than the Roadeo, but thinner tubing than the Atlantis and the Sams. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:10:25 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: The Bleriot and SH were/are built with thicker tubes than the AHH, correct? My AHH felt very springy/lively, just like my Romulus did. I would say both are more road-only lighter-load biased than the Bleriot and Hillborne. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:10:16 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I've had the same experience in comparing a SH to an AHH: same fit, similar toptube, both set up with similar 36-spoke wheels, Brooks saddles, and typical Nitto Aluminum bits. Both with Jack Brown greens. The big difference in the frames was 60 cm SH with 6 degree toptube slope versus a 65 cm AHH with a 1.5 degree toptube slope, but the bar height relative to saddle was the same. AHH's chainstay was 0.5 cm shorter! There's faerie dust on those AHH's! - Jim On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Joan Oppel wrote: I led a group ride this morning for one of the local bike clubs. Richard showed up with his brand new A Homer Hilsen. He's very excited about the bike, has posted here about his excitement (blueride2). It's a pretty standard Riv build. I took my Bleriot to the ride - another standard Riv build. Differences are: Bleriot has Hetres (45 front, 50 rear), AHH has Jack Browns (at 70 front and rear) Bleriot has SKS fenders, AHH is fenderless (though he is waiting for the fenders). Bleriot is a 53, AHH is a 55. Bleriot has a trunk bag and rack(multi-tool, spare, patch kit) and rack, AHH had just a tiny seatbag. Since I can ride a 55, I took Richard's bike for a short spin. Wow, was I impressed. It felt - sprightly, lively. Definitely different than the Bleriot. I'm wondering why. There's maybe a slight difference in weight between the two bikes, by feel. Is it the tires? the tubeset? Joan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W_77gA3IquoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best 700c X FAT fenders?
Patrick,
In terms of sturdiness, I can vouch for the PBs by way of cutting them in
half, drilling multiple holes, then riveting together to form 4 inch wide
fenders! This is certainly not an original technique of mine but rather one
employed by several of us fat bike owners that desire the use of
fenders. http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/fatty-fenders-muk-742418.html
Seriously though, these things are tough!
Shifty
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:07:26 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
What are the widest 700c fenders available -- the 60 mm Planet Bike
ones? And of those available, which are the best in terms of value and
sturdiness? I don't need very long ones since I generally amputate the
rear to end just aft of the rack and, in front, prefer to use a long
flap that will not be damaged by hitting obstacles.
-- For the Fargo, now that our monsoon is here.
('Nother question: for your Fargo owners or former owners: what have
you found to be the best weight distribution, front vs rear, for loads
of 30 to 50 lb?)
Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.
I would check it out on Riv's say so, as they have a not steered me wrong yet. On a related note, I really wish Riv would set up an Amazon link to books they sell. That way I would be able to buy the Kindle version from the recommender and they could still get a small commission off them, at least. (and I could buy hard copies without having to wait for the pony express to walk them out to the east coast from RBWHQ). Is there any down side to this, other than sending business to the man? -Pete (needing instant gratification) in CT On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:01:56 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote: I saw that RBW is now selling What Now? I imagine it's gotta be pretty go for them to go to the trouble of carrying it. Anyone here read it or intent to read it? I've only ever read one book by Anne Patchett--State of Wonder. It was okay. I need to read Bel Canto as I've had a lot of people recommend it. Since this tends to be a time of year where people get away for bike camping and vacation, I'm wondering what people are reading or planning to read this summer? I just started Buried in the Sky and really like it. In fact, I need to pull myself away from the computer and spend some time reading it. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cSIkRW_8Lc8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best 700c X FAT fenders?
That is excessively cool! Please post photos of the naked chick flaps,
too (or was that MTBR post someone else's?).
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Shifty 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick,
In terms of sturdiness, I can vouch for the PBs by way of cutting them in
half, drilling multiple holes, then riveting together to form 4 inch wide
fenders! This is certainly not an original technique of mine but rather one
employed by several of us fat bike owners that desire the use of fenders.
http://forums.mtbr.com/fat-bikes/fatty-fenders-muk-742418.html Seriously
though, these things are tough!
Shifty
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:07:26 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
What are the widest 700c fenders available -- the 60 mm Planet Bike
ones? And of those available, which are the best in terms of value and
sturdiness? I don't need very long ones since I generally amputate the
rear to end just aft of the rack and, in front, prefer to use a long
flap that will not be damaged by hitting obstacles.
-- For the Fargo, now that our monsoon is here.
('Nother question: for your Fargo owners or former owners: what have
you found to be the best weight distribution, front vs rear, for loads
of 30 to 50 lb?)
Thanks.
--
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Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)
I don't think it's as simple as thick vs thin tubes. When the Hillborne first arrived, I was lucky enough to ride one over at the RBWHQL , as well as hear what Grant had come up with in terms of design and tube set choice. It is definitely a different selection of tubes - as one would expect from a different frame design. At the time I rode it, the ride seemed to land just where GP had said - between the Atlantis and the Hilsen (for some reason, light-framed Atlantis came to mind, even though I don't own an Atlantis for true comparison). I never really heard what choices were made with the Bleriot, but it was modeled after the Saluki. It would not surprise me that some allowances were made to keep the price down and work with the production facility (Maxway) and the needs of QBP, who was the partner in the project. And tires and pressures make a HUGE difference in any test ride. The first time I rode a Hilsen, it was actually fitted with Rolly Polly 28's (at the time the JB's had not yet arrived). Grant sent me off on the bike saying very specifically that the tires were not what the bike was designed for. It felt akin to my open-wheeled racer. When I rode it again before buying one, with the JB's, it felt like a Lamborghini with a Land Rover undercarriage. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: PM to me please: Santa Monica bike shop rec.
+1 for Victor at Bicycle Workshop, right by Bob's Market On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:11:16 PM UTC-7, grant wrote: For a customer. He'll get a bike and wants the shop to do final bit of reassembly. I'd like to be able to send him to a shop that can deal with, for example, a new Hunqapillar with Bosco bars and a threaded headset and not treat it like a fresh dinosaur. It's possible I'll get zero to fifteen responses. Thank you all in advance, and it's s busy/understaffed here I won't be able to muster more than a quick thanks, but I will mean it. Hmm? G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QNfZNUdbYyUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Devold Wool Boxer Briefs - at risk of imprisonment!
Dude, this is how zombie plagues are started. Still, if they were my size, I'd be tempted to buy them. --mike On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:30:03 AM UTC-7, Shifty wrote: According to the rivsite, I'll probably be arrested for this but have (FS) an unopened, unused *Devold Wool Boxer size XL neatly packaged in original box: $40 CONUS.* You'll save $9-10 (I think min. shipping at rivbike is $9, or will be soon). After several uses with an alternate pair, it's become apparent that you can, indeed, get multiple wearings so I really don't need two. They're a Cadillac of wool undies. Perhaps a Volvo, since they're from Norway. Also available for no extra shipping cost: New MUSA XL Blue Shorts that arrived from Rivendell yesterday. They're too big for me and will otherwise return to HQ with no laws broken. $45 if purchased with the, uh, thing I mentioned above. Now pretend you never read this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YjiIIgVzjOIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:47:07 AM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: On a related note, I really wish Riv would set up an Amazon link to books they sell. Is there any down side to this, other than sending business to the man? -Pete (needing instant gratification) in CT Agreed. I love Powell's here in Portland, and smaller bookstores but I do have a Kindle and some books I prefer to buy for it rather than a hard copy. Also, I really like getting the NY Review of Books on Kindle. And I love bringing my Kindle on bike camping trips. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ka_ciqFstZ4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?
I'm a regular reader and a rare poster, but here it goes... I've got my 53cm Atlantis set up with 650B's and Paul Motos. After ALOT of research it's really the only way I could figure out to do the conversion. My reasons were more because I like the ride of larger wheels. Personally, I think the feel of a larger tire is smoother and slightly faster. I also like to ride 32's and the bike was most probably (big assumptions here) intended for large 26s. When I ride the 32 650B's it's much like riding 2.5 26s. One problem I've had, however, is that once you put tires and fenders on it, the direct pull brake cross top part comes awfully close to the fenders, and even touches in the front. This completely eliminates trying larger tires on the bike. I couldn't imagine that Hetres with fenders would fit. Do they, anyone? Anyway,I've found that the Atlantis rides quite nicely when it rides a bit higher and the difference is hardly noticed, but noticed enough to change the ride. Eli On Monday, July 9, 2012 12:01:52 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: I'm pondering all sorts of things this afternoon... As anyone ever done a 650b conversion on an Atlantis? Either, a 56 (26-wheeled), or a 58 (700c-wheeled)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ACjlyrkUtSEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sackville TourSacks?
So what's the deal with these? How are people liking them? Do they attach firmly to the rack? Quiet? Easy to remove? I'm sorta thinking of getting some for my Hilsen. I previously had a Sackville SaddleSack (med) but just wasn't crazy about it. I wanted to like it and use but never really did. I hated the sway and didn't like the way my rack fit to support it. I ride a 63cm Hilsen and so having the weight so high also seemed to impact handling. But I did love the styling and material. I'm pretty sure that I could fit everything for a tentless s24o in those with a basket up front. I wish they mounted similar to Ortliebs and you could just use one at time. I'm not someone who minds riding with one pannier on the bike. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tdzYlUsiHEUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.
Reading now, Read Road to Valor, which got me interested in Italian topics, so just finished The Conformist by Alberto Moravia now reading Kaputt by Curzio Malaparte. I suggest reading Conformist, Kaputt then Valor, to end with a happy story. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DJoiTIewKo4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b Atlantis?
raising the bottom bracket a cm or so does not create much of a problem in my opinion. The braking situation is another matter, if you can't get good leverage with the brake set up you choose then I would not do it. Plenty of MTB bikes have been converted with many happy conclusions. Using a larger wheel helps with with rolling momentum and works better off pavement in my book. And you get to use a hetre...easy decision! ~mike On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:18:54 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote: Honestly, I don't get conversions like this. Canti posts add complication to any conversion so that's one issue. Also, the original intent of 650b conversions of road bikes was to add fat tire and fender versatility to an otherwise limited 700c-equipped bike, ie a low clearance, high BB racy/crit bike--trying to add versatility to a bike as versatile as the Atlantis seems an exercise in futility. And messing about with something so perfectly suited to its intent and function, and designed by GP to boot seems almost sacrilege. There are plenty of bikes out there that can be improved by a conversion like this, but the Atlantis doesn't seem like one of them to me. What's that old saw about just because you can does not mean you should...? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aelLpZlRMpYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.
there is another book with good route info published by Lonely Planet Cycling USA: West Coast I've used data from both this book and the Tom Kirkendall and Vicky Spring book. I've only done the Northern California section, and had a great time. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e9p8M-hug10J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: PM to me please: Santa Monica bike shop rec.
Sorry Grant, not sure how to PM. While not in SM, Topanga Creek Cycles is the most Riv-friendly (and overall great) shop within striking distance. They'd do a great job. Brad On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:11:16 PM UTC-7, grant wrote: For a customer. He'll get a bike and wants the shop to do final bit of reassembly. I'd like to be able to send him to a shop that can deal with, for example, a new Hunqapillar with Bosco bars and a threaded headset and not treat it like a fresh dinosaur. It's possible I'll get zero to fifteen responses. Thank you all in advance, and it's s busy/understaffed here I won't be able to muster more than a quick thanks, but I will mean it. Hmm? G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vEIBvkHOwdsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Impressed by an AHH (though I don't own one)
Agree with this assessment. Have an early Hillborne and used to own an Atlantis. The ride does seem to be similar. Closer than, say, my Simpleone to the Atlantis. Then again maybe my memory is all wrong as I haven't owned the Atlantis for a few years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 11, 2012 10:54 AM, Cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I don't think it's as simple as thick vs thin tubes. When the Hillborne first arrived, I was lucky enough to ride one over at the RBWHQL , as well as hear what Grant had come up with in terms of design and tube set choice. It is definitely a different selection of tubes - as one would expect from a different frame design. At the time I rode it, the ride seemed to land just where GP had said - between the Atlantis and the Hilsen (for some reason, light-framed Atlantis came to mind, even though I don't own an Atlantis for true comparison). I never really heard what choices were made with the Bleriot, but it was modeled after the Saluki. It would not surprise me that some allowances were made to keep the price down and work with the production facility (Maxway) and the needs of QBP, who was the partner in the project. And tires and pressures make a HUGE difference in any test ride. The first time I rode a Hilsen, it was actually fitted with Rolly Polly 28's (at the time the JB's had not yet arrived). Grant sent me off on the bike saying very specifically that the tires were not what the bike was designed for. It felt akin to my open-wheeled racer.When I rode it again before buying one, with the JB's, it felt like a Lamborghini with a Land Rover undercarriage. - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.
+1 for Mike's Crater Lk/ Klamath Lk idea. I like the ocean/coast ok but for some reason the inland route has more appeal to me. This Seattle to Portland through the backdoor http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/seattle-to-portland-through-the-backdoor/route looks interesting. Maybe some sort of east/west hopping over the Cascades. Another over the Cascades route that's been on my mind is McKenzie Passhttp://rideoregonride.com/inspiration/itineraries/mckenzie-pass-scenic-bikeway/ . --Andy On Monday, July 9, 2012 8:11:33 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Figure it's just about time to get ready for touring season. Tommy and I are planning to train/bus/drive/fly (we haven't really figured this part out) up to Washington and biking down to San Francisco. Looking to try to do it in a week and a half. Anyone have any suggestions on routes or things to see? Also curious about the weather while riding down, musa splat weather? Basically going off the fly and just winging it for this tour. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2xIEEfKbAxwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.
Hey Manny, once you've nailed down dates and a route (the coast is pretty straightforward), email me. I might be able to meet you out there for a night depending where you end up staying on the OR coast. Really anywhere between Astoria and Pacific City are reachable to me from Portland. I'd love to meet up for a night of camping if your touring schedule and my days off align. --mike On Monday, July 9, 2012 8:11:33 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Figure it's just about time to get ready for touring season. Tommy and I are planning to train/bus/drive/fly (we haven't really figured this part out) up to Washington and biking down to San Francisco. Looking to try to do it in a week and a half. Anyone have any suggestions on routes or things to see? Also curious about the weather while riding down, musa splat weather? Basically going off the fly and just winging it for this tour. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4v5rnooySs4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:22:44 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: +1 for Mike's Crater Lk/ Klamath Lk idea. I like the ocean/coast ok but for some reason the inland route has more appeal to me. This Seattle to Portland through the backdoor http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/seattle-to-portland-through-the-backdoor/route looks interesting. Maybe some sort of east/west hopping over the Cascades. Another over the Cascades route that's been on my mind is McKenzie Passhttp://rideoregonride.com/inspiration/itineraries/mckenzie-pass-scenic-bikeway/ . --Andy And yeah, McKenzie Pass is awesome. I should get to ride it next month when my wife and I are in Sisters. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/4845195996/in/set-72157623717584622 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MxGOH89GccEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras
Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I received it, see photos. Note the small sterling silver St. Christopher adhered to the downtube (no, I'm not Catholic, but Chris is a friend of mine). It is visible in the photos. I think I will not try to remove it. It's small and subtle. See photos here and adjacent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ Geometry per Sheldon: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/index.htm I will miss this bike. It's lively, well-mannered, fits 33's easily, and it's darn pretty. $750 plus shipping If desired with the frame (not for sale individually at these exceptional prices, but may be offered a bit later as I organize): Nitto lugged stem 10.5cm actual c-c $110 -- I think Nitto calls this a 10. Sugino Alpina compact crank 48x34 silver 175 with SKF BB. Crank is very presentable with light wear, BB has ratty mounting rings. $145 Thanks, Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iASNWtWxMYQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I received it, see photos. Note the small sterling silver St. Christopher adhered to the downtube (no, I'm not Catholic, but Chris is a friend of mine). It is visible in the photos. I think I will not try to remove it. It's small and subtle. See photos here and adjacent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ Geometry per Sheldon: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/index.htm I will miss this bike. It's lively, well-mannered, fits 33's easily, and it's darn pretty. $750 plus shipping If desired with the frame (not for sale individually at these exceptional prices, but may be offered a bit later as I organize): Nitto lugged stem 10.5cm actual c-c $110 -- I think Nitto calls this a 10. Sugino Alpina compact crank 48x34 silver 175 with SKF BB. Crank is very presentable with light wear, BB has ratty mounting rings. $145 You know there's a 60cm orange boo-yay on craiglist in asheville, nc right now: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3132072137.html No relation or affiliation - but it might be what you want. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...
I rode the gofast today after having neglected it for the Fargo and the Riv Commuter for a few weeks: sub-18-lb with new, skinny Michelin Pro Race 3s. Desperately trying to take it easy, I averaged a good 1 mph faster over the usual for the Commuter and 2 mph over the Fargo: this with a quartering headwind; AND I made it up the steep 2/5 mile hill up the West Mesa in the 75 despite telling myself I was gonna get off and walk and take it easy. Collect enough anecdotes and they become data ... -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Collect enough anecdotes and they become data ... Sorry, The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. It's 'stories'. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Collect enough anecdotes and they become data ... Sorry, The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. It's 'stories'. Good stories, mind you. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...
*My* anecdotes add up to *data*. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Collect enough anecdotes and they become data ... Sorry, The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. It's 'stories'. Good stories, mind you. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Just an isolated example, but FWIW ...
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: *My* anecdotes add up to *data*. You guys have all the best anecdotes out there in the west! :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras
Gang, my Rambouillet has found its new home. Seth -- thank you! I'll look into it. Cheers, Peter On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:39:59 PM UTC-7, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I received it, see photos. Note the small sterling silver St. Christopher adhered to the downtube (no, I'm not Catholic, but Chris is a friend of mine). It is visible in the photos. I think I will not try to remove it. It's small and subtle. See photos here and adjacent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ Geometry per Sheldon: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/index.htm I will miss this bike. It's lively, well-mannered, fits 33's easily, and it's darn pretty. $750 plus shipping If desired with the frame (not for sale individually at these exceptional prices, but may be offered a bit later as I organize): Nitto lugged stem 10.5cm actual c-c $110 -- I think Nitto calls this a 10. Sugino Alpina compact crank 48x34 silver 175 with SKF BB. Crank is very presentable with light wear, BB has ratty mounting rings. $145 You know there's a 60cm orange boo-yay on craiglist in asheville, nc right now: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3132072137.html No relation or affiliation - but it might be what you want. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SK_e7kkRW6cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58 Orange frameset plus extras
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:37:32 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I received it, see photos. Note the small sterling silver St. Christopher adhered to the downtube (no, I'm not Catholic, but Chris is a friend of mine). It is visible in the photos. I think I will not try to remove it. It's small and subtle. See photos here and adjacent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ Geometry per Sheldon: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/index.htm I will miss this bike. It's lively, well-mannered, fits 33's easily, and it's darn pretty. $750 plus shipping If desired with the frame (not for sale individually at these exceptional prices, but may be offered a bit later as I organize): Nitto lugged stem 10.5cm actual c-c $110 -- I think Nitto calls this a 10. Sugino Alpina compact crank 48x34 silver 175 with SKF BB. Crank is very presentable with light wear, BB has ratty mounting rings. $145 Thanks, Peter On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:37:32 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I received it, see photos. Note the small sterling silver St. Christopher adhered to the downtube (no, I'm not Catholic, but Chris is a friend of mine). It is visible in the photos. I think I will not try to remove it. It's small and subtle. See photos here and adjacent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ Geometry per Sheldon: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/index.htm I will miss this bike. It's lively, well-mannered, fits 33's easily, and it's darn pretty. $750 plus shipping If desired with the frame (not for sale individually at these exceptional prices, but may be offered a bit later as I organize): Nitto lugged stem 10.5cm actual c-c $110 -- I think Nitto calls this a 10. Sugino Alpina compact crank 48x34 silver 175 with SKF BB. Crank is very presentable with light wear, BB has ratty mounting rings. $145 Thanks, Peter On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:37:32 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I received it, see photos. Note the small sterling silver St. Christopher adhered to the downtube (no, I'm not Catholic, but Chris is a friend of mine). It is visible in the photos. I think I will not try to remove it. It's small and subtle. See photos here and adjacent: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pbridge1300/6764291787/in/photostream/ Geometry per Sheldon: http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/index.htm I will miss this bike. It's lively, well-mannered, fits 33's easily, and it's darn pretty. $750 plus shipping If desired with the frame (not for sale individually at these exceptional prices, but may be offered a bit later as I organize): Nitto lugged stem 10.5cm actual c-c $110 -- I think Nitto calls this a 10. Sugino Alpina compact crank 48x34 silver 175 with SKF BB. Crank is very presentable with light wear, BB has ratty mounting rings. $145 Thanks, Peter On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:37:32 PM UTC-7, pb wrote: Apologies for redundancy if you have laready seen this over on BOB. I have thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed this bike, but it's a tad smaller than I would prefer. I absolutely love the color. Orange Rambouillet 58, frame/fork/Campy NR headset (Tange top nut, as received from previous owner), Tektro brakes, and a fresh can of the Boyd's Roadstar Florida Orange Pearl which online sources say is the proper touch-up paint. It has the various beausage it had when I
[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.
To complement our trip to Normandy last spring, I'm reading Citizens of London, about American diplomats etc who lived in London during WWII -- strongly recommended if you'd like to know more than jingoist movies teach us about the history of US involvement in that war. Accessible, well written. Road to Valour is next in the line-up. Peter On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:01:56 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: I saw that RBW is now selling What Now? I imagine it's gotta be pretty go for them to go to the trouble of carrying it. Anyone here read it or intent to read it? I've only ever read one book by Anne Patchett--State of Wonder. It was okay. I need to read Bel Canto as I've had a lot of people recommend it. Since this tends to be a time of year where people get away for bike camping and vacation, I'm wondering what people are reading or planning to read this summer? I just started Buried in the Sky and really like it. In fact, I need to pull myself away from the computer and spend some time reading it. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oEWtevu5u9oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seattle Tour.
Manny: A week and a half is way too fast for Seattle to the Bay Area. Depending on routing and whether or not you visit the San Juan Islands, a week goes by quickly in Washington, and the Oregon coast is most of another week. The border to the Bay Area is worthy of 5-6 days as well. This assumes no days off and ticking off 50-60 miles per day. If you start island hopping, allow a couple of days per island. This is world class touring country so don't try to do too many miles and wind up skipping side trips. Heck, when you think about it, a bike tour is all one big side trip. Make sure you enjoy it. The Adventure Cycling maps are well routed, and combined with the guides others have mentioned you can come up with a great trip. For getting there, look into one-way rental cars. You can score great deals on rentals between major airports (e.g., SFO to SEATAC) but youu gotta be a bit careful what you get. During the summer they get lots of people flying in to one place and dropping the car off elsewhere. It just depends on who has cars stacking up when you want to go. Did the San Juans, Olympic Peninsula and Oregon coast down to Florence a couple of years ago in July August and had zero rain days. dougP On Jul 9, 8:11 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Figure it's just about time to get ready for touring season. Tommy and I are planning to train/bus/drive/fly (we haven't really figured this part out) up to Washington and biking down to San Francisco. Looking to try to do it in a week and a half. Anyone have any suggestions on routes or things to see? Also curious about the weather while riding down, musa splat weather? Basically going off the fly and just winging it for this tour. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.
I recently finished Joe Parkin's A Dog in a Hat. It's an interesting corollary to Just Ride, in that it's a detailed journal from inside pro bike racing in Europe and does not paint the picture as especially flattering or heroic. Actually seems quite a grim life. Intro by Bob Roll, begins I did tell Joe Parkin to go to Belgium. I did not, however, tell him to stay. dougP On Jul 11, 3:18 pm, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: To complement our trip to Normandy last spring, I'm reading Citizens of London, about American diplomats etc who lived in London during WWII -- strongly recommended if you'd like to know more than jingoist movies teach us about the history of US involvement in that war. Accessible, well written. Road to Valour is next in the line-up. Peter On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:01:56 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: I saw that RBW is now selling What Now? I imagine it's gotta be pretty go for them to go to the trouble of carrying it. Anyone here read it or intent to read it? I've only ever read one book by Anne Patchett--State of Wonder. It was okay. I need to read Bel Canto as I've had a lot of people recommend it. Since this tends to be a time of year where people get away for bike camping and vacation, I'm wondering what people are reading or planning to read this summer? I just started Buried in the Sky and really like it. In fact, I need to pull myself away from the computer and spend some time reading it. --mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
Peter, I have an ~1980 Gios race bike that I like a lot and is about as light as steel bikes get (light frame, light parts). Love that bike. Thanks to you, I also have a lovely 56 AHH currently sporting GB Cypres tires on velocity budget riv wheels. Love that bike too. Now the AHH is certainly perceptibly heavier than the Gios when I pick them up, but it feels quite light when I ride it. If he really wants to give something different than his race rig a try, he has missed a great opportunity by passing on your AHH. I think your friend could benefit from getting clear in his own mind what he really wants. Has he looked at how heavy those Hetre's and the big ol tubes that go in them are (tongue partly in cheek)? If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny race rigs, he should probably ease up on the frame weight goal. You also might point out that the frame and fork are probably about 1/4th (or less) of the total bike weight. To say an AHH is too heavy because of the frame overlooks the large roll components play in the all up weight of a bike. On Jul 10, 8:55 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you Joe, I tried to sell him the 54 AHH but he kept saying it was too heavy, he is a good friend but this whole heavy vs light argument does get old so looking for him to take the plunge and get a nice practical ride. He does have an older Peugeot PX10 we could convert but with its 'racing geometry it wont be nearly as comfortable as a nice AHH. Maybe a decent place to start though. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Your friend needs to be disabused of the notion that the AHH is not a road bike. My Romulus was a pure 700c road bike like that Ebay Riv, and my AHH rode like the Romulus. Hilsen can be used for medium-load touring and gravel treks, but it is not a touring bike. It's a 650b road bike. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Good points, issue is my friend is coming out of the cold of pure roadieism and although he has shed his praise of 23mm tires he still thinks of anything not made Columbus Zona or whatnot heavy, while wanting simultanously to jump on the 650b Bandwagon. He did ride the AHH I had and loved it so I think I just need to turn the screws a bit tighter. I am tired of carrying around his stuff since his CF rig has no capacity at all and is really only good for going fast over smooth pavement in perfect weather, haha. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I don't think any Rivendells have ever had less than 70mm of drop. Unless it was a very custom-custom, plan on 70, and don't be surprised to have it be 72 or 73. That's on the edge of 650b compatibility. The 750s should work fine and I see a cable hanger in the front, but Tektro 559s would be perfect as well. Fitting Hetres would would just be a guess... maybe, maybe not. It's going to be a chunk of change for a guess if you can't confirm measurements from the seller. I'd recommend getting a 650B AHH and build it up super-light if that's what he wants. It could be as roadie as he can afford! :-) On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: So a friend of mine (seriously, not me!) wants to know if this custom on ebay will take a 650b/hetre conversion. I am not too familiar with these older Rivs so thought I would ask if anyone here has done this kind of thing. I would think the Dia-compe Mod 750s would get you the reach but again, will the bb drop be too much and will it even fit the Hetres or is this guy dreaming? He really wants a 650b/Hetre bike but wants something more roady than the AHH/SH since he is only 135lbs. Just spitballing here, thanks all. Link to bike on the Bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-**Rivendell-Road-custom-57-cm-/** 120947913999?pt=Road_Bikes**hash=item1c290eb50fhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Rivendell-Road-custom-57-cm-/12094791399... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.** com rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscr i...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: PM to me please: Santa Monica bike shop rec.
+1 on Topanga Creek Cycles. They're super down to earth and they have a good shop. On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:33:25 PM UTC-7, Brad Gantt wrote: Sorry Grant, not sure how to PM. While not in SM, Topanga Creek Cycles is the most Riv-friendly (and overall great) shop within striking distance. They'd do a great job. Brad On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:11:16 PM UTC-7, grant wrote: For a customer. He'll get a bike and wants the shop to do final bit of reassembly. I'd like to be able to send him to a shop that can deal with, for example, a new Hunqapillar with Bosco bars and a threaded headset and not treat it like a fresh dinosaur. It's possible I'll get zero to fifteen responses. Thank you all in advance, and it's s busy/understaffed here I won't be able to muster more than a quick thanks, but I will mean it. Hmm? G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/taZ7ehBtSzQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
Maybe it's time to give up on him, tell him what he wants is a top of the line Domane with carbon wheels and tubular tires, and he should stop wasting his time looking at heavy old steel bikes. On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 16:01 -0700, ted wrote: If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny race rigs, he should probably ease up on the frame weight goal. You also might point out that the frame and fork are probably about 1/4th (or less) of the total bike weight. To say an AHH is too heavy because of the frame overlooks the large roll components play in the all up weight of a bike. On Jul 10, 8:55 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you Joe, I tried to sell him the 54 AHH but he kept saying it was too heavy, he is a good friend but this whole heavy vs light argument does get old so looking for him to take the plunge and get a nice practical ride. He does have an older Peugeot PX10 we could convert but with its 'racing geometry it wont be nearly as comfortable as a nice AHH. Maybe a decent place to start though. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Your friend needs to be disabused of the notion that the AHH is not a road bike. My Romulus was a pure 700c road bike like that Ebay Riv, and my AHH rode like the Romulus. Hilsen can be used for medium-load touring and gravel treks, but it is not a touring bike. It's a 650b road bike. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Good points, issue is my friend is coming out of the cold of pure roadieism and although he has shed his praise of 23mm tires he still thinks of anything not made Columbus Zona or whatnot heavy, while wanting simultanously to jump on the 650b Bandwagon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
It's not at all clear to me why he thinks a custom Rivendell Road frame would be appreciably lighter than a production Riv. You either want a Rivendell design or you don't. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:56:52 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: Maybe it's time to give up on him, tell him what he wants is a top of the line Domane with carbon wheels and tubular tires, and he should stop wasting his time looking at heavy old steel bikes. On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 16:01 -0700, ted wrote: If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny race rigs, he should probably ease up on the frame weight goal. You also might point out that the frame and fork are probably about 1/4th (or less) of the total bike weight. To say an AHH is too heavy because of the frame overlooks the large roll components play in the all up weight of a bike. On Jul 10, 8:55 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you Joe, I tried to sell him the 54 AHH but he kept saying it was too heavy, he is a good friend but this whole heavy vs light argument does get old so looking for him to take the plunge and get a nice practical ride. He does have an older Peugeot PX10 we could convert but with its 'racing geometry it wont be nearly as comfortable as a nice AHH. Maybe a decent place to start though. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Your friend needs to be disabused of the notion that the AHH is not a road bike. My Romulus was a pure 700c road bike like that Ebay Riv, and my AHH rode like the Romulus. Hilsen can be used for medium-load touring and gravel treks, but it is not a touring bike. It's a 650b road bike. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Good points, issue is my friend is coming out of the cold of pure roadieism and although he has shed his praise of 23mm tires he still thinks of anything not made Columbus Zona or whatnot heavy, while wanting simultanously to jump on the 650b Bandwagon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mmCN6yaIjioJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
FWIW the ebay seller is a good dude with a lot of nice bikes. I think it should be left as 700c. Ryan On Jul 10, 7:53 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: So a friend of mine (seriously, not me!) wants to know if this custom on ebay will take a 650b/hetre conversion. I am not too familiar with these older Rivs so thought I would ask if anyone here has done this kind of thing. I would think the Dia-compe Mod 750s would get you the reach but again, will the bb drop be too much and will it even fit the Hetres or is this guy dreaming? He really wants a 650b/Hetre bike but wants something more roady than the AHH/SH since he is only 135lbs. Just spitballing here, thanks all. Link to bike on the Bayhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Rivendell-Road-custom-57-cm-/12094791399... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
He would like that, haha! But he is a good riding buddy because he is always up for some nice midnight rides which is the only real time that is nice to ride around brooklyn in the summer I find. Like I said, he just needs to see that a bike can be both practical and fast. It does get old when he and some other friends let me know how much thier bikes weigh. Like there is any freaking difference between 19lbs and 23lbs that you could justify spending money on CF cranks, wheels and whatnot. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Maybe it's time to give up on him, tell him what he wants is a top of the line Domane with carbon wheels and tubular tires, and he should stop wasting his time looking at heavy old steel bikes. On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 16:01 -0700, ted wrote: If he wants to try an alternative to the weight weeny race rigs, he should probably ease up on the frame weight goal. You also might point out that the frame and fork are probably about 1/4th (or less) of the total bike weight. To say an AHH is too heavy because of the frame overlooks the large roll components play in the all up weight of a bike. On Jul 10, 8:55 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you Joe, I tried to sell him the 54 AHH but he kept saying it was too heavy, he is a good friend but this whole heavy vs light argument does get old so looking for him to take the plunge and get a nice practical ride. He does have an older Peugeot PX10 we could convert but with its 'racing geometry it wont be nearly as comfortable as a nice AHH. Maybe a decent place to start though. On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Your friend needs to be disabused of the notion that the AHH is not a road bike. My Romulus was a pure 700c road bike like that Ebay Riv, and my AHH rode like the Romulus. Hilsen can be used for medium-load touring and gravel treks, but it is not a touring bike. It's a 650b road bike. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:23:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Good points, issue is my friend is coming out of the cold of pure roadieism and although he has shed his praise of 23mm tires he still thinks of anything not made Columbus Zona or whatnot heavy, while wanting simultanously to jump on the 650b Bandwagon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about Riv Custom on Ebay
Back to the OP. To check any old steel bike for Hetre clearance you usually run out of room behind the BB, between the chainstays. Just glancing at the photos, my honest guess is 'no freaking way'. Maybe you could go pari motos, but even that might need some stay squishing. Have the seller measure for you. The fork crown also does not look wide enough for a Hetre, but there a Pari Moto might work without squishing anything. BB drop is an issue, and in general makes Rivendells bad candidates for 700-to-650 conversions, as everybody has already said. If the only deal-killer on a Hilsen is that it's too heavy, but he doesn't mind the $2000 pricetag, then he can get a really nice 650B racing frame for $2000 from any number of competent builders. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:53:12 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: So a friend of mine (seriously, not me!) wants to know if this custom on ebay will take a 650b/hetre conversion. I am not too familiar with these older Rivs so thought I would ask if anyone here has done this kind of thing. I would think the Dia-compe Mod 750s would get you the reach but again, will the bb drop be too much and will it even fit the Hetres or is this guy dreaming? He really wants a 650b/Hetre bike but wants something more roady than the AHH/SH since he is only 135lbs. Just spitballing here, thanks all. Link to bike on the Bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Rivendell-Road-custom-57-cm-/120947913999?pt=Road_Bikeshash=item1c290eb50f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-270bizaxjQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.
Every summer I see Mike's and others pictures of beautiful green forests and wonderful rides and I think I should move to Portland... and then winter comes and I change my mind. and maybe I'm in the minority but I wish Grant would talk less about the low carb diet and just ride. ~mike Carlsbad CA. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:28:44 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: The weather here in Portland has been beautiful lately. Downright exceptional over the past three days while I was at work. I woke up this morning and it was cooler but could tell it would burn off. My wife is out of town and we have a puppy so I can't get away for all day rides but I did get in a 3hr ramble passing through Forest Park twice. When I first entered Forest Park and ended up taking Fire Rd 1 which I had never ridden before. It's quite steep in parts and so I just dismounted and just walked a few sections which was fine. I was on my Hilsen and one area where it doesn't do so great is steep scrabbly climbs. I guess I could have muscled up the climb but that just didn't seem fun. I exited Forest Park and headed up to Skyline on the pavement and took that for a little ways before dropping back down into Forest Park via Saltzman and made my way down to Hwy 30 and across the St Johns Bridge and back home, stopping for tacos and ice cream along the way. It was just a really great ride. I was on my Hilsen with platform pedals and wearing some Musa shorts and an LL Bean seersucker/hiking shirt I recently purchased on sale. The shirt worked well except for on descents where it tends to flap in the wind a bit too much for my taste. I guess I could tuck it in and the problem would be solved. After spending so much time focused on randonneuring for the past couple of months it was really nice to just get out for a ramble. I'll do some variation on the ride tomorrow and the next day. When my wife returns I'll hopefully get out for an overnight camping trip. Here's a photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157630519177722/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1YTqk-9b-qoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sackville TourSacks?
I have a set of gray ones I used for a while but found I wasn't really in love with them. For me, the concern is that since there is no zipper or bag closure (like on the Carradice saddlebags) to close before closing the flap, dust from dirt trails gets inside. Also, their shape is not really laptop friendly. Still, they held very well to the rack and bike, didn't sway and didn't cause any problems. I still have them and will probably plan on giving them another try, possibly on the Betty. René On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the deal with these? How are people liking them? Do they attach firmly to the rack? Quiet? Easy to remove? I'm sorta thinking of getting some for my Hilsen. I previously had a Sackville SaddleSack (med) but just wasn't crazy about it. I wanted to like it and use but never really did. I hated the sway and didn't like the way my rack fit to support it. I ride a 63cm Hilsen and so having the weight so high also seemed to impact handling. But I did love the styling and material. I'm pretty sure that I could fit everything for a tentless s24o in those with a basket up front. I wish they mounted similar to Ortliebs and you could just use one at time. I'm not someone who minds riding with one pannier on the bike. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tdzYlUsiHEUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack
I have one with all the hardwares; in excellent cosmetic shape, willing to sell straight up or trade with an M12 or VO Pass Hunter (integrated decaleur preferred) rack. Franklyn On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:26:54 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: Mine is sold. On Monday, July 9, 2012 10:58:52 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: I have one--respond offline if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zVyPJRbHXB4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack
Franklyn, I am willing to trade an M12 for it even-up . Please contact me at mschw...@nmsu.edu if interested. Thanks, Marc From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of franklyn [sini...@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:27 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack I have one with all the hardwares; in excellent cosmetic shape, willing to sell straight up or trade with an M12 or VO Pass Hunter (integrated decaleur preferred) rack. Franklyn On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:26:54 AM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: Mine is sold. On Monday, July 9, 2012 10:58:52 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: I have one--respond offline if interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zVyPJRbHXB4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.
Pretty much every time you post a trip report, Mike, I add another place to my list. Even if it's a place I've been I feel like your pics capture something I missed when I was there. --Andy On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:28:44 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: The weather here in Portland has been beautiful lately. Downright exceptional over the past three days while I was at work. I woke up this morning and it was cooler but could tell it would burn off. My wife is out of town and we have a puppy so I can't get away for all day rides but I did get in a 3hr ramble passing through Forest Park twice. When I first entered Forest Park and ended up taking Fire Rd 1 which I had never ridden before. It's quite steep in parts and so I just dismounted and just walked a few sections which was fine. I was on my Hilsen and one area where it doesn't do so great is steep scrabbly climbs. I guess I could have muscled up the climb but that just didn't seem fun. I exited Forest Park and headed up to Skyline on the pavement and took that for a little ways before dropping back down into Forest Park via Saltzman and made my way down to Hwy 30 and across the St Johns Bridge and back home, stopping for tacos and ice cream along the way. It was just a really great ride. I was on my Hilsen with platform pedals and wearing some Musa shorts and an LL Bean seersucker/hiking shirt I recently purchased on sale. The shirt worked well except for on descents where it tends to flap in the wind a bit too much for my taste. I guess I could tuck it in and the problem would be solved. After spending so much time focused on randonneuring for the past couple of months it was really nice to just get out for a ramble. I'll do some variation on the ride tomorrow and the next day. When my wife returns I'll hopefully get out for an overnight camping trip. Here's a photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157630519177722/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mfx8d7PAdMsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Mid-week s24o
Most of my camping trips are closer to 36 than 24 hours, but this was a mid-week quickie. My going was contingent upon getting home before work on Wednesday. I woke with the sun and was rolling 20 minutes later. It was sort of fun to be coming home from camping when everyone else on the road is headed to work... like I was getting away with something. But the best part was the early am fog in the Sandy River valley. It's been warm lately and it felt good to feel cool. pics here http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7554045552/ --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O4IO0SRGPxQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: Mark's Rack
Looks like I'll be getting exactly what I need from a very accommodating group member. Thanks for the replies, everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XxSmyauKcAQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mid-week s24o
I've ridden by Dodge Park so many times. It looks like a nice close by place for just this kind of trip. We gotta coordinate something for going out to Alder Flat where Ed took us earlier this year. --mike On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:54:55 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Most of my camping trips are closer to 36 than 24 hours, but this was a mid-week quickie. My going was contingent upon getting home before work on Wednesday. I woke with the sun and was rolling 20 minutes later. It was sort of fun to be coming home from camping when everyone else on the road is headed to work... like I was getting away with something. But the best part was the early am fog in the Sandy River valley. It's been warm lately and it felt good to feel cool. pics here http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7554045552/ --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YuK0pZdSK4AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Today's ramble.
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 4:17:29 PM UTC-7, 3wheelin wrote: Nice story Mikei was wondering what tires you have on the Hilsen, and how do they work on those trails/pavement? I'm running standard Schwalbe Marathons 700x35. I really like them for all around riding. I wish they hadn't stopped making them. They were replaced with the Marathon Green Guards which are probably great for touring but for these kinds of rambles they're a bit much and a bit sluggish on the road. At some point I'll try 40mm Supremes or Duremes. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dwHO89_Lld0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
