[RBW] Montana photos
Just got back from a memorable 6 days of riding and camping in NW Montana, in and around Glacier NP. No Rivendells on the trip, but you may enjoy some of the photos anyway: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/08/back-from-montana.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUkCRu39ecoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Montana photos
Love the photos, Jim! Glacier is one of my favorite places in the world. How was the riding? Did you find traffic to be a problem at this time of year? Brian Seattle, WA On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Just got back from a memorable 6 days of riding and camping in NW Montana, in and around Glacier NP. No Rivendells on the trip, but you may enjoy some of the photos anyway: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/08/back-from-montana.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUkCRu39ecoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm Romulus in Chicago - Nearly new!
Since the Rom wasn't made in 60 cm, perhaps the OP simply mis remembered, or mis measured. The asking price is high. Similarly, an overpriced blue 56 cm Ram did not sell in the past week either. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote: here's the poop. http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/romulus/rom_flyerannounce1scr.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 60cm Romulus in Chicago - Nearly new!
On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 21:12 -0500, John Blish wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote: On Friday, August 17, 2012 8:58:57 AM UTC-7, john blish wrote: The ad may be completely legit and the bike the property of the seller but Romulus did not come in a 60. They came in odd sizes - 57, 59, etc. Mine claims to be a 56 and I thought at the time, they came in 58 and other even sizes. I think I did buy mine nine years ago. :-) As much as I like mine, if some fool offered me $1,800 for it, it would probably be gone! Ya know, I shouldn't generalize based on too little information. I accept what Reid has said and apologize. You shouldn't; you are right and he is wrong. I remember from when the Ram and the Rom were both being sold, the Ram was on even and the Rom on odd sizing. And, the brochure (Rob posted a link earlier) proves it. I had two 59 Romulus bikes but I don't know what other sizes were made. I had thought there was a 57 but maybe not. I was just kind of assuming that Rambouillets were even sizes 54 (my wife has one), 56, 58, etc. and that Romulus bikes came in odd sizes but I could be mistaken. You are NOT mistaken. Maybe some Romulus bikes came in even sizes. I guess I spoke too soon. Actually not. You were spot on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Montana photos
Fantastic Jim, thanks for posting, WOW! Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:10:43 AM Subject: [RBW] Montana photos Just got back from a memorable 6 days of riding and camping in NW Montana, in and around Glacier NP. No Rivendells on the trip, but you may enjoy some of the photos anyway: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/08/back-from-montana.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUkCRu39ecoJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTT B68 for B67 (Brooks saddle)
Bobby, I sent you some pics of my saddle. Did they make it? Best, Clyde On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Clyde: I have a newish B68 Honey (in great shape) that I might consider trading, but would like to see a photo... I can provide a photo of the B68 Thanks, Bobby montclairbob...@gmail.com On Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:39:10 AM UTC-4, ccanter wrote: Greetings. A while back I wanted to try a B67. I swapped a B17 for one (here on the lists) and after a while of trying it out I find I like the shape of the saddle but alas the noise of the springs bothers me somewhat. I really do not need springs so I would like to trade with someone here for a B68 (the sprngless version of the 67). The one I have is brown. I would prefer to exchange for a brown or honey 68, but black would be okay as well. Mine is in good to excellant condition. If felt to me a bit saggy, so I drilled 3 holes in each side of the saddle right under the logo and laced her up. I did a good job of this( IMO). I am looking for a trade of similar condition. Anyone out there like to swap evens? Best, Clyde Canter in Virginia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yANWbmOkyJYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Montana photos
Nice shots!!! Beautiful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wMIHbzngc6YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
Wait, so is it possible then to just take off my 10-speed shimano cassette, and put on the 7-speed shimano cassette, and use it with the ultegra derailer I have in friction? I could set the limit screws so the derailer wouldn't move too far? Or would a 7-speed cassette be the same width as a 10-speed? Would it work on my 135 drop-out measurements? Does chain line factor in? Sorry for these questions, but I am new to drivetrain mechanics. Haven't messed wih 'em too much other than basics. On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims (confirmed 400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Tbg5sLC1Z7cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
I have not had any problem mating silver shifters with a good Shimano 9 speed cassette and a good conex chain. I ran into a lot of trouble with an inexpensive SRAM chain cassette. I do get occasional ghost shifts with the same set up on BE, but it always seems to be connected to a slightly loose D ring. Personally I think a hi quality 9 speed will give a better experience than a mid level 10 speed set up. What do you hope to get by going 10 speed? I know the steps can be a little smaller and I like that but the only time it seems to matter with 9 speed is between 14 16 or 15 17. There is no perfect solution here; it always about what compromise you are willing to make. When you're done with this project let us know how a lightweight 650 works out. I keep thinking about it for my Marinoni racing frame but never quite get to the point of wanting to spend the money. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims (confirmed 400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FxU7SD8qm4IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of pedals am I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but after a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on off when you want to. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote: Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It was a deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but incredibly happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking the bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much needed with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the purchase I have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake levers, rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left to do is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride! Through the process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you want them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this one). Here are some pics: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/ACs/sOQqlu3FpAM/s1600/IMG_1022%5B1%5D.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QiOsaZWu-EgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
You can replace your 10 speed cassette with a 7 speed. You will need to add a spacer like this: http://www.jensonusa.com/!dKSLZ62ZteeEKb6SVVR8ZA!/Cassette-Spacer You will also need to adjust your limit screws. David Charlotte, NC On Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:05:51 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: Wait, so is it possible then to just take off my 10-speed shimano cassette, and put on the 7-speed shimano cassette, and use it with the ultegra derailer I have in friction? I could set the limit screws so the derailer wouldn't move too far? Or would a 7-speed cassette be the same width as a 10-speed? Would it work on my 135 drop-out measurements? Does chain line factor in? Sorry for these questions, but I am new to drivetrain mechanics. Haven't messed wih 'em too much other than basics. On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims (confirmed 400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Iu1UwPreZZIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I?
That'll be a great build as is -- budget or no. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:32 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I? I'm taking the budget route now. 1. Mostly stock 2. Overhaul 3. 1.75 New Express tires and presta tubes 4. a Noodle/tech dlx/tektro bar cockpit I already have 5. a black B17 I already have 6. super secret Silver barcons built from the Riv-Silver Thumbies 7. Silver SKS P55s I already have 8. Nitto Big front and Rear racks that I already have Total cash outlay is under $100. That'll get it 100% useable for road-evaluation. Then I can think about justifying a nicer paint job (and a couple more braze-ons) On Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17:44 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Yes, Bill... we always knew where this was heading... Hey, what say we make this a group-build... Tom, you game I'll be out in San Francisco in October... Hmmm, let's see... a black and creme 2-tone paint job... new Stumpy decals... custom stainless S headbadge... Dyno hub with front and rear BM lights... 50mm Creme Fat Franks... Black fenders with creme pinstripingn and chevrons Brooks B17 Special... maybe etched??? killer front and rear racks... Oh yeah...a totally pimped out dream bike... I will go to sleep now... Peace, BB On Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:21:41 PM UTC-4, William wrote: MBB You know how this is going to turn out. :-P Of course I'm going to end up doing the conversion. It's particularly inevitable for me since I already have a fun drop bar cockpit ready to go. The cash out parts will be tires, tubes and brake pads. Maybe fenders. You also know that you and Tom are at fault for doing so many yummy conversions and sharing photos of them. I can't let you guys have all the fun. Bill On Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:28:38 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: BTW, my good friend and local (Sonoma) jeweler/cyclist from Healdsburg, Scott Kalkman crafted the headbadge, and I'm confident could craft one for this beauty... http://tinyurl.com/bmssvju BB On Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:04:04 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: William, you rascal...very tempting... I have a serious weakness for '85 Stumpies... but alas I already have my own (which I transformed into a kind of Atlantish tribute bike... http://tinyurl.com/8fu6kqx ) BUT TO ANYONE INTERESTED... THIS is an exceptional bike, and will make a lifetime keeper touring/grocery-getter/head-turner/just-plain-awesome RIDER!!!... Good luck, William, and it's for a good cause. BB On Monday, August 6, 2012 2:51:05 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I've gotten a hold of an early 80s Stumpjumper Sport that appears to be practically unridden. Deer head derailleurs, specialized cranks and hubs. Lugged at the headtube and lugged unicrown fork. Super long chainstays. I think it will make a great substitute for an Atlantis or Bombadil type of touring bike. I'm thinking the Compass 26 tires, or maybe Big Apples, with fenders, and drop bars. This came from the Harding Elementary School Dad's Club. I could do a conversion and then try to sell it, but first I wanted to float it here to see if anyone in the Bay Area was thinking of doing something like this and wanted to have the fun for themselves. Let me know if you think you'd like the shot at this. I'm thinking that $400 made out to Harding Elementary School would be enough to keep me from building a bombproof touring bike out of this. Let me know if you want a crack at it. Here's the photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/ I am especially interested in getting out of doing this conversion because I always get emotionally attached to these projects and want to keep them. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D2ACiidecukJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any
Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
You can use regular, inter-cog spacers. I squeeze two of them at the back end of the cassette so that I can use just seven at the for'ard end of the f/hub body. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:34 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: You can replace your 10 speed cassette with a 7 speed. You will need to add a spacer like this: http://www.jensonusa.com/!dKSLZ62ZteeEKb6SVVR8ZA!/Cassette-Spacer You will also need to adjust your limit screws. David Charlotte, NC On Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:05:51 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: Wait, so is it possible then to just take off my 10-speed shimano cassette, and put on the 7-speed shimano cassette, and use it with the ultegra derailer I have in friction? I could set the limit screws so the derailer wouldn't move too far? Or would a 7-speed cassette be the same width as a 10-speed? Would it work on my 135 drop-out measurements? Does chain line factor in? Sorry for these questions, but I am new to drivetrain mechanics. Haven't messed wih 'em too much other than basics. On Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:59:18 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I'm delighted at the shifting of Silver Downtube shifters with a 9-speed cassette. I'm running that setup on three bikes. I'm contemplating a lightweight 650B wheelset. I already have the Pacenti 650B road rims (confirmed 400g on my scale). I'm probably going to get a pair of White Industries hubs. I'm thinking about whether the super light and swanky SRAM cassettes will work with friction shifters. My question is: Are any list members using Silver downtube shifters with a 10-sp SRAM or Shimano cassette? What rear der? What chain? Do you like it? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Iu1UwPreZZIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: S240 To Half Moon Bay This Saturday 8/18- 8/19
What time? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry folks looks like I have to cancel this event. With school starting on monday, I have to go in tomorrow to set up my classroom. Still doing a ride to halfmoon bay for bbq but it's going to be on Sunday -Manny On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:29:09 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Lets say 1000ish at DC Bart. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/29KLd5Soc8AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 60cm Romulus in Chicago - Nearly new!
Are all sizes being discussed in this thread thought of as center-to-top? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2012, at 4:03 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 21:12 -0500, John Blish wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote: On Friday, August 17, 2012 8:58:57 AM UTC-7, john blish wrote: The ad may be completely legit and the bike the property of the seller but Romulus did not come in a 60. They came in odd sizes - 57, 59, etc. Mine claims to be a 56 and I thought at the time, they came in 58 and other even sizes. I think I did buy mine nine years ago. :-) As much as I like mine, if some fool offered me $1,800 for it, it would probably be gone! Ya know, I shouldn't generalize based on too little information. I accept what Reid has said and apologize. You shouldn't; you are right and he is wrong. I remember from when the Ram and the Rom were both being sold, the Ram was on even and the Rom on odd sizing. And, the brochure (Rob posted a link earlier) proves it. I had two 59 Romulus bikes but I don't know what other sizes were made. I had thought there was a 57 but maybe not. I was just kind of assuming that Rambouillets were even sizes 54 (my wife has one), 56, 58, etc. and that Romulus bikes came in odd sizes but I could be mistaken. You are NOT mistaken. Maybe some Romulus bikes came in even sizes. I guess I spoke too soon. Actually not. You were spot on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
Oh my! I'm kicking myself for not buying a Saluki when they first came out. I've been thinking about buying an AHH in butterschotch sometime next year. -Steve Seattle On Friday, August 17, 2012 9:06:12 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: Sorry, been having an amazing 18 months on this baby and just had to post this pin-up pic ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yOMIicv_YH8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Removing chain guard glue glunk from frame
Hello, I have a chain guard that I peeled of the chainstay and there is lotsa glue goo left behind. I tried water, alcohol, and degreaser (not intentional), but all I get is some paint tint on the rag. The goo wont go. Anything I can try next? Don't wanna damage the finish. I don't wanna put on another chain guard because I like seeing as much of the beautiful frame as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XsCWeeZK9wMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Removing chain guard glue glunk from frame
Try Goo Gone, which you can find at most any hardware store. --Eric N On Aug 18, 2012, at 8:44 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a chain guard that I peeled of the chainstay and there is lotsa glue goo left behind. I tried water, alcohol, and degreaser (not intentional), but all I get is some paint tint on the rag. The goo wont go. Anything I can try next? Don't wanna damage the finish. I don't wanna put on another chain guard because I like seeing as much of the beautiful frame as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XsCWeeZK9wMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Removing chain guard glue glunk from frame
I used denatured alcohol, worked nice and easy. You have to use the hardware store stuff, not the drug store stuff. On Aug 18, 2012 11:44 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a chain guard that I peeled of the chainstay and there is lotsa glue goo left behind. I tried water, alcohol, and degreaser (not intentional), but all I get is some paint tint on the rag. The goo wont go. Anything I can try next? Don't wanna damage the finish. I don't wanna put on another chain guard because I like seeing as much of the beautiful frame as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XsCWeeZK9wMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] How are Rivbikes painted?
What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/69Fv0mSYQrMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
Could you post some close ups of the headbadge, dt emblem, and st emblem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/heLU32-xEQ8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] How far to seat setback? Just Ride not clear on it.
Hello, In Just ride, Grant talks about many aspects of fit, but doesn't go into detail about reach fore/aft of saddle to bars. Also, about how far behind the center of crank the saddle should be. These two dimensions could have a big effect on comfort. How do you set yours up? How does Riv set the new bikes up for you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/moQtIXu3OzoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How are Rivbikes painted?
They have a video on the website showing the standard process On Aug 18, 2012 11:49 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/69Fv0mSYQrMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] ISO: Nitto Mark's Rack, Nitto Small Rack, Nitto Big Rear Rack
Someone on the BOB list was just selling one: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/internet-bob/-/Gy2Ef0D8sisJ On Aug 17, 2012 10:28 AM, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Interested in any of your not-being-used Nitto racks: Mark's, small, or big rear rack Let me know if you have one you'd like to turn into cash, Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lwNQYK1XSpUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Stolen simpleone in minneapolis
HI my 56 cm simple one was stolen off my porch last night if anyone sees it. It had a dura ace headset, phil bottom bracket, ta cranks, black sun tour xc pedals, phil track wheels, white industries dos freewheel, nitto post and stem albatross bars, paul levers and cantilevers, honey brooks b 17 special, a velo orange porteur rack, schwalbe kojak tires. Thanks Dylan 360-292-9126 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xrLXBOU-_ewJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike-y things to do in Mpls in the next few days?
Thanks for the suggestions; unfortunately I ended up just working the whole time. I'm sure I'll be back, though! Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Y3efvYGkzAQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hillborne review
Tried to post this to rivbike.com, but they only allow 1000 characters and this review is about 5X that. Hope it helps anyone looking at the Hillborne. This review is overdue, I have had the bike almost 2 years now, and its been through a few configurations. I didn't love it at first, but I really do appreciate it now, I guess I've grown into the bike. It might be good to first state that I don't fit the usual Riv customer profile. I've been riding XC since 13 (age 32 at time of writing), and more recently gotten into road riding. I love my go-fast kit, enjoy racing and train with a heart rate monitor. That's not to say that I don't ever Just Ride - I ride in a variety of ways. I first specced my Hillborne with moustache bars, a schmidt dynohub (powering BM lights front and rear) , phil rivy 7 speed rear hub, 42mm marathon extremes (knobby) , tektro 720 cantis, MKS Sylvan pedals and B17 saddle. I went to town on this build, thinking it'd be my bike to tour the world on. I didn't enjoy riding it so much, it felt slow on the road, and not nearly as much fun as my racing hardtail off road. The moustache bars have the cool XO look, but felt awkward to me - I could never settle into a position for long. I didn't start to really enjoy and appreciate the bike until after making several changes... which I would recommend to anyone who enjoys aggressive riding. - Noodle bars and technomic stem: this handlebar setup gave me enough positions to play with, both aggressive and relaxed. The only way to go, imho. Much more comfortable over a long trip, and easier to crank out power than on a moustache bar. - Jack Brown tires: The best 700c tire for this bike! These make it possible to keep up with slower roadies while being very comfortable and secure. For the same effort that I can keep my 23mm road racer going at 40 kph, I can keep these tires going at 35 kph, which is pretty darn good considering 50psi comfort and the Hillborne's significant heft. I feel that a fatter, knobby tire like the 42mm marathon extreme is overkill for this frame, and doesn't allow me to ride off road any faster anyway. - Crankbrothers 50/50 platform pedals : these were actually for my full suspension trail bike but were put on the Hillborne while the trail bike was out of service. Its much easier to put power down on the bike with a grippy platform pedal vs. a more slippery MKS Sylvan. It lets me charge over rough surfaces and accelerate with a great deal more conviction = more fun. I'd tried clipless pedals on the Hillborne too, but platforms allow you to embrace the Rivendell / Grant philosophy properly, and it works really well. I've not been a huge fan of the Silver friction shifters, and I am just about getting used to them now. I don't shift very often on this bike, whereas I am constantly shifting on my road racer to keep power output at a max. I prefer my dura-ace brifters, but I can appreciate that friction bar ends do work well for this bike's intended purpose. I ride this bike every where now. In any type of clothing, into any non-extreme terrain. Commuting, adventuring, training, its never a bad time to take the Riv out, especially when the terrain or weather is unexpected. Ridden at an easy pace, this bike is effortless. Ridden hard, its fast enough to feel fun and nimble. Not as quick as a road racer, but certainly quick enough. The ride is like most would rave about - supple, confident, secure. I agree wholeheartedly with Grant that if you had just one bike, you couldn't do better, though knowing what I know now, I might've sprung for a Roadeo instead, specced it with a full Ultegra 2x10 drivetrain, and reduced my stable by one bike. Complaints: I did have regular trouble with chain suck when the bike from new. It tends to be a problem when riding very muddy/dusty terrain. I generally don't ride so much dirt with the hillborne now, and also keep the drivetrain clean and well lubed, and the problem is not present then. Dirt roads are generally fine, singletrack tends to cause problems. I also managed to break the frame whilst riding some singletrack. Not a very big impact, riding up a river embankment, nothing that threw me off the bike, but I cracked the joints joining the headtube to downtube and lower top tube (56 cm, Waterford, double top tube model) This is not a strike against Riv or Waterford - these things happen, and no manufacturer is 100%. To Riv's credit, John handled the matter most graciously and offered me a chance to buy a shop model at a deeply discounted price w frame swap. My problem was that being based in South East Asia, shipping would be prohibitively expensive. Since one of the selling points of a steel bike is its repairability, I went with that route, and found a local builder to braze the joints back. Its probably stronger than new now. All said and done, I know I'll be keeping this bike forever. -- You received
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
That's absurdly yummy. Was it built originally with the bridge in the rear for a centerpull? Like, did it precede the existence of Silver sidepulls? I'm swooning over your fender clearances. On Friday, August 17, 2012 9:06:12 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote: Sorry, been having an amazing 18 months on this baby and just had to post this pin-up pic ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lVn3PfUZPWMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I?
Headset and BB overhauled. I'm taking the frame and rear wheel to the LBS for derailer hanger alignment. That's one too for which there is no substitute that I'll probably never buy. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:55:12 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: That'll be a great build as is -- budget or no. -- *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *William *Sent:* Friday, August 17, 2012 1:32 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I? I'm taking the budget route now. 1. Mostly stock 2. Overhaul 3. 1.75 New Express tires and presta tubes 4. a Noodle/tech dlx/tektro bar cockpit I already have 5. a black B17 I already have 6. super secret Silver barcons built from the Riv-Silver Thumbies 7. Silver SKS P55s I already have 8. Nitto Big front and Rear racks that I already have Total cash outlay is under $100. That'll get it 100% useable for road-evaluation. Then I can think about justifying a nicer paint job (and a couple more braze-ons) On Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17:44 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Yes, Bill... we always knew where this was heading... Hey, what say we make this a group-build... Tom, you game I'll be out in San Francisco in October... Hmmm, let's see... a black and creme 2-tone paint job... new Stumpy decals... custom stainless S headbadge... Dyno hub with front and rear BM lights... 50mm Creme Fat Franks... Black fenders with creme pinstripingn and chevrons Brooks B17 Special... maybe etched??? killer front and rear racks... Oh yeah...a totally pimped out dream bike... I will go to sleep now... Peace, BB On Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:21:41 PM UTC-4, William wrote: MBB You know how this is going to turn out. :-P Of course I'm going to end up doing the conversion. It's particularly inevitable for me since I already have a fun drop bar cockpit ready to go. The cash out parts will be tires, tubes and brake pads. Maybe fenders. You also know that you and Tom are at fault for doing so many yummy conversions and sharing photos of them. I can't let you guys have all the fun. Bill On Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:28:38 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: BTW, my good friend and local (Sonoma) jeweler/cyclist from Healdsburg, Scott Kalkman crafted the headbadge, and I'm confident could craft one for this beauty... http://tinyurl.com/bmssvju BB On Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:04:04 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: William, you rascal...very tempting... I have a serious weakness for '85 Stumpies... but alas I already have my own (which I transformed into a kind of Atlantish tribute bike... http://tinyurl.com/8fu6kqx ) BUT TO ANYONE INTERESTED... THIS is an exceptional bike, and will make a lifetime keeper touring/grocery-getter/head-turner/just-plain-awesome RIDER!!!... Good luck, William, and it's for a good cause. BB On Monday, August 6, 2012 2:51:05 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I've gotten a hold of an early 80s Stumpjumper Sport that appears to be practically unridden. Deer head derailleurs, specialized cranks and hubs. Lugged at the headtube and lugged unicrown fork. Super long chainstays. I think it will make a great substitute for an Atlantis or Bombadil type of touring bike. I'm thinking the Compass 26 tires, or maybe Big Apples, with fenders, and drop bars. This came from the Harding Elementary School Dad's Club. I could do a conversion and then try to sell it, but first I wanted to float it here to see if anyone in the Bay Area was thinking of doing something like this and wanted to have the fun for themselves. Let me know if you think you'd like the shot at this. I'm thinking that $400 made out to Harding Elementary School would be enough to keep me from building a bombproof touring bike out of this. Let me know if you want a crack at it. Here's the photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/ I am especially interested in getting out of doing this conversion because I always get emotionally attached to these projects and want to keep them. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D2ACiidecukJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --
Re: [RBW] How far to seat setback? Just Ride not clear on it.
One exceedingly important principle is: don't move your saddle to adjust reach to the bar. In fact, I agree with many that saddle position -- height, tilt and, especially, fore/aft situation -- is the starting point for everything else. See PJW's well known bike fit article: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm -- especially the section on fore/aft setup. Me, I like my Flites waaay back and wish I'd agreed to let Grant make my Rivs' seat tube angle shallower. As it is, an old last-gen-aluminum Dura Ace seatpost, with a lot of setback, just lets me get them back far enough. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:56 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, In Just ride, Grant talks about many aspects of fit, but doesn't go into detail about reach fore/aft of saddle to bars. Also, about how far behind the center of crank the saddle should be. These two dimensions could have a big effect on comfort. How do you set yours up? How does Riv set the new bikes up for you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/moQtIXu3OzoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How far to seat setback? Just Ride not clear on it.
The saddle should never be adjusted relative to the bars, but should be adjusted relative to the pedal. I use the traditional patella above the pedal spindle (pedal at 90 degrees horizontal and forward) as the starting point and then adjust for comfort from there. I realize that arguments have been made against that measurement, and that's fine. I consider it a helpful starting point, not a hard and fast rule. I always carry seat adjustment tools with me when riding, and I'll occasionally stop to make adjustments, both front-back and up-down. When I was fit and strong, my saddle steadily migrated further back, which I find offers superior power; in my current state of lack of fitness, my saddle has migrated forward, which I find offers superior spin. Cheers Peter On Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:56:52 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: Hello, In Just ride, Grant talks about many aspects of fit, but doesn't go into detail about reach fore/aft of saddle to bars. Also, about how far behind the center of crank the saddle should be. These two dimensions could have a big effect on comfort. How do you set yours up? How does Riv set the new bikes up for you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VqKtNsnySqsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How far to seat setback? Just Ride not clear on it.
Reflecting further on my own comments, maybe I should clarify -- when I was fit and strong and could climb seated in relatively big gears, my saddle was further back. Now I spin climbs rather than pounding them. My saddle is still further back than the patella-over-spindle starting point, but it's not nearly as far back as it used to be. My back and glutes are less involved in the power phase, and my sitting position is more comfort-oriented than power-oriented, and the combination of spin and comfort lets me finish long days despite marginal fitness. If I started riding with the local club again, fast pacelines, my bars would probably drop a bit, my saddle would move back a bit, and my back would be flatter than it is when riding liesurely solo rides. I also mess occasionally with my stem reach and rise. My fit on the bike is not static, but evolves with fitness, age, and the style of the ride that I'm doing. You've really got to listen to what your own body tells you. Discomfort is the most immediate signal; pedalling efficiency is a more subtle guide. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:42:19 AM UTC-7, pb wrote: The saddle should never be adjusted relative to the bars, but should be adjusted relative to the pedal. I use the traditional patella above the pedal spindle (pedal at 90 degrees horizontal and forward) as the starting point and then adjust for comfort from there. I realize that arguments have been made against that measurement, and that's fine. I consider it a helpful starting point, not a hard and fast rule. I always carry seat adjustment tools with me when riding, and I'll occasionally stop to make adjustments, both front-back and up-down. When I was fit and strong, my saddle steadily migrated further back, which I find offers superior power; in my current state of lack of fitness, my saddle has migrated forward, which I find offers superior spin. Cheers Peter On Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:56:52 AM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: Hello, In Just ride, Grant talks about many aspects of fit, but doesn't go into detail about reach fore/aft of saddle to bars. Also, about how far behind the center of crank the saddle should be. These two dimensions could have a big effect on comfort. How do you set yours up? How does Riv set the new bikes up for you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/627iWJpSSwkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How are Rivbikes painted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTGtoTlJyh0 - David G in SF On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:49 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I've got a project bike. Do you want to do the conversion, or should I?
That'll be a nice ride... You could also eBay the slingshot stem/bar combo and the Deore brake levers and shifters to virtually eliminate any cash outlay... Heck, I'll give you $100 for all three BB On Friday, August 17, 2012 1:31:52 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I'm taking the budget route now. 1. Mostly stock 2. Overhaul 3. 1.75 New Express tires and presta tubes 4. a Noodle/tech dlx/tektro bar cockpit I already have 5. a black B17 I already have 6. super secret Silver barcons built from the Riv-Silver Thumbies 7. Silver SKS P55s I already have 8. Nitto Big front and Rear racks that I already have Total cash outlay is under $100. That'll get it 100% useable for road-evaluation. Then I can think about justifying a nicer paint job (and a couple more braze-ons) On Thursday, August 16, 2012 9:17:44 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Yes, Bill... we always knew where this was heading... Hey, what say we make this a group-build... Tom, you game I'll be out in San Francisco in October... Hmmm, let's see... a black and creme 2-tone paint job... new Stumpy decals... custom stainless S headbadge... Dyno hub with front and rear BM lights... 50mm Creme Fat Franks... Black fenders with creme pinstripingn and chevrons Brooks B17 Special... maybe etched??? killer front and rear racks... Oh yeah...a totally pimped out dream bike... I will go to sleep now... Peace, BB On Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:21:41 PM UTC-4, William wrote: MBB You know how this is going to turn out. :-P Of course I'm going to end up doing the conversion. It's particularly inevitable for me since I already have a fun drop bar cockpit ready to go. The cash out parts will be tires, tubes and brake pads. Maybe fenders. You also know that you and Tom are at fault for doing so many yummy conversions and sharing photos of them. I can't let you guys have all the fun. Bill On Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:28:38 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: BTW, my good friend and local (Sonoma) jeweler/cyclist from Healdsburg, Scott Kalkman crafted the headbadge, and I'm confident could craft one for this beauty... http://tinyurl.com/bmssvju BB On Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:04:04 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: William, you rascal...very tempting... I have a serious weakness for '85 Stumpies... but alas I already have my own (which I transformed into a kind of Atlantish tribute bike... http://tinyurl.com/8fu6kqx ) BUT TO ANYONE INTERESTED... THIS is an exceptional bike, and will make a lifetime keeper touring/grocery-getter/head-turner/just-plain-awesome RIDER!!!... Good luck, William, and it's for a good cause. BB On Monday, August 6, 2012 2:51:05 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I've gotten a hold of an early 80s Stumpjumper Sport that appears to be practically unridden. Deer head derailleurs, specialized cranks and hubs. Lugged at the headtube and lugged unicrown fork. Super long chainstays. I think it will make a great substitute for an Atlantis or Bombadil type of touring bike. I'm thinking the Compass 26 tires, or maybe Big Apples, with fenders, and drop bars. This came from the Harding Elementary School Dad's Club. I could do a conversion and then try to sell it, but first I wanted to float it here to see if anyone in the Bay Area was thinking of doing something like this and wanted to have the fun for themselves. Let me know if you think you'd like the shot at this. I'm thinking that $400 made out to Harding Elementary School would be enough to keep me from building a bombproof touring bike out of this. Let me know if you want a crack at it. Here's the photo set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/ I am especially interested in getting out of doing this conversion because I always get emotionally attached to these projects and want to keep them. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7VjI_vyuKgAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Stolen simpleone in minneapolis
Sorry to hear of your loss. Do tell if it was locked what type of lock and to what it was locked. Keep a eye out for the components on craigslist. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oELE9LXnOmMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Want to trade racks?
I'm looking for a Mark's front rack for my Hillborne. I have a Nitto front rack (for cantis) but I need the sidepull version now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vf9_89gYMqwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Removing chain guard glue glunk from frame
Citra-solv is the best I've found. Stronger than goo-gone. Use outside if possible as the orange smell lingers a while! Best, joe broach portland, or On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a chain guard that I peeled of the chainstay and there is lotsa glue goo left behind. I tried water, alcohol, and degreaser (not intentional), but all I get is some paint tint on the rag. The goo wont go. Anything I can try next? Don't wanna damage the finish. I don't wanna put on another chain guard because I like seeing as much of the beautiful frame as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XsCWeeZK9wMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stolen simpleone in minneapolis
I'll be looking for it, Dylan. On Friday, August 17, 2012 2:15:43 PM UTC-5, dylan alverson wrote: HI my 56 cm simple one was stolen off my porch last night if anyone sees it. It had a dura ace headset, phil bottom bracket, ta cranks, black sun tour xc pedals, phil track wheels, white industries dos freewheel, nitto post and stem albatross bars, paul levers and cantilevers, honey brooks b 17 special, a velo orange porteur rack, schwalbe kojak tires. Thanks Dylan 360-292-9126 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4cmh4-Fbv10J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne review
Pics, pics!! Love to see it. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:23:08 PM UTC-4, Paul Yeoh wrote: Tried to post this to rivbike.com, but they only allow 1000 characters and this review is about 5X that. Hope it helps anyone looking at the Hillborne. This review is overdue, I have had the bike almost 2 years now, and its been through a few configurations. I didn't love it at first, but I really do appreciate it now, I guess I've grown into the bike. It might be good to first state that I don't fit the usual Riv customer profile. I've been riding XC since 13 (age 32 at time of writing), and more recently gotten into road riding. I love my go-fast kit, enjoy racing and train with a heart rate monitor. That's not to say that I don't ever Just Ride - I ride in a variety of ways. I first specced my Hillborne with moustache bars, a schmidt dynohub (powering BM lights front and rear) , phil rivy 7 speed rear hub, 42mm marathon extremes (knobby) , tektro 720 cantis, MKS Sylvan pedals and B17 saddle. I went to town on this build, thinking it'd be my bike to tour the world on. I didn't enjoy riding it so much, it felt slow on the road, and not nearly as much fun as my racing hardtail off road. The moustache bars have the cool XO look, but felt awkward to me - I could never settle into a position for long. I didn't start to really enjoy and appreciate the bike until after making several changes... which I would recommend to anyone who enjoys aggressive riding. - Noodle bars and technomic stem: this handlebar setup gave me enough positions to play with, both aggressive and relaxed. The only way to go, imho. Much more comfortable over a long trip, and easier to crank out power than on a moustache bar. - Jack Brown tires: The best 700c tire for this bike! These make it possible to keep up with slower roadies while being very comfortable and secure. For the same effort that I can keep my 23mm road racer going at 40 kph, I can keep these tires going at 35 kph, which is pretty darn good considering 50psi comfort and the Hillborne's significant heft. I feel that a fatter, knobby tire like the 42mm marathon extreme is overkill for this frame, and doesn't allow me to ride off road any faster anyway. - Crankbrothers 50/50 platform pedals : these were actually for my full suspension trail bike but were put on the Hillborne while the trail bike was out of service. Its much easier to put power down on the bike with a grippy platform pedal vs. a more slippery MKS Sylvan. It lets me charge over rough surfaces and accelerate with a great deal more conviction = more fun. I'd tried clipless pedals on the Hillborne too, but platforms allow you to embrace the Rivendell / Grant philosophy properly, and it works really well. I've not been a huge fan of the Silver friction shifters, and I am just about getting used to them now. I don't shift very often on this bike, whereas I am constantly shifting on my road racer to keep power output at a max. I prefer my dura-ace brifters, but I can appreciate that friction bar ends do work well for this bike's intended purpose. I ride this bike every where now. In any type of clothing, into any non-extreme terrain. Commuting, adventuring, training, its never a bad time to take the Riv out, especially when the terrain or weather is unexpected. Ridden at an easy pace, this bike is effortless. Ridden hard, its fast enough to feel fun and nimble. Not as quick as a road racer, but certainly quick enough. The ride is like most would rave about - supple, confident, secure. I agree wholeheartedly with Grant that if you had just one bike, you couldn't do better, though knowing what I know now, I might've sprung for a Roadeo instead, specced it with a full Ultegra 2x10 drivetrain, and reduced my stable by one bike. Complaints: I did have regular trouble with chain suck when the bike from new. It tends to be a problem when riding very muddy/dusty terrain. I generally don't ride so much dirt with the hillborne now, and also keep the drivetrain clean and well lubed, and the problem is not present then. Dirt roads are generally fine, singletrack tends to cause problems. I also managed to break the frame whilst riding some singletrack. Not a very big impact, riding up a river embankment, nothing that threw me off the bike, but I cracked the joints joining the headtube to downtube and lower top tube (56 cm, Waterford, double top tube model) This is not a strike against Riv or Waterford - these things happen, and no manufacturer is 100%. To Riv's credit, John handled the matter most graciously and offered me a chance to buy a shop model at a deeply discounted price w frame swap. My problem was that being based in South East Asia, shipping would be prohibitively expensive. Since one of the selling points of a steel bike is its repairability, I went with that route, and
Re: [RBW] Montana photos
on the gravel sections, part of which is the ACA Great Divide route, the main traffic issue was dust. On the Inside North Fork Road, the middle section of the road is closed to cars for various reasons. It was a very rustic wilderness experience, complete with large piles of grizzly poop! The Going to the Sun Road was high traffic, but we just pulled over whenever 5 or so cars piled up behind us, and they went around. We were also helped by a construction flagman who closed the road for about 20-30 minutes after we passed through! It was a terrific experience, but a person can only see a small portion of the mostly roadless park by bike. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:04:05 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Love the photos, Jim! Glacier is one of my favorite places in the world. How was the riding? Did you find traffic to be a problem at this time of year? Brian Seattle, WA On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Just got back from a memorable 6 days of riding and camping in NW Montana, in and around Glacier NP. No Rivendells on the trip, but you may enjoy some of the photos anyway: http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/08/back-from-montana.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qUkCRu39ecoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mPwplZRnVcwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot Attire
Don't forget the scarf!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hNd5j4l2EXYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stolen simpleone in minneapolis
Please tell us it was locked up. Bummer! I really hope you get your bike back. Theft is endemic in Winnipeg. I lock the commuters(X0-1, Peugeot PX-10 converted to SS) in the garage and the Rivs I keep in the house. Unfortunately, if thieves are determined,no security is completely foolproof but I'm sure you don't need to hear that. Good luck On Friday, August 17, 2012 2:15:43 PM UTC-5, dylan alverson wrote: HI my 56 cm simple one was stolen off my porch last night if anyone sees it. It had a dura ace headset, phil bottom bracket, ta cranks, black sun tour xc pedals, phil track wheels, white industries dos freewheel, nitto post and stem albatross bars, paul levers and cantilevers, honey brooks b 17 special, a velo orange porteur rack, schwalbe kojak tires. Thanks Dylan 360-292-9126 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pXo5gSFIzHcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which headbadge/DT/ST art set do you like best on Rivbik es?
Custom the best On Monday, August 13, 2012 7:43:57 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote: i have a copy of the headbadge poster so its easy to peruse...i like the second one mike goldman warwick,r.i. NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now.http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/q7ft3fMLu8MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 60cm Sam Hillborne $500 Seattle CL
Not mine, wish it was a 56! http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3214087117.html Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 60cm Sam Hillborne $500 Seattle CL
Sold! On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:23 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Not mine, wish it was a 56! http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3214087117.html Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How are Rivbikes painted?
Hobbits from Rivendell carefully paint each bike. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 18, 8:49 am, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne review
Great to hear the repair-ability part. We hear how steel is easily repairable, but never really hear of anyone doing it! On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Pics, pics!! Love to see it. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:23:08 PM UTC-4, Paul Yeoh wrote: Tried to post this to rivbike.com, but they only allow 1000 characters and this review is about 5X that. Hope it helps anyone looking at the Hillborne. This review is overdue, I have had the bike almost 2 years now, and its been through a few configurations. I didn't love it at first, but I really do appreciate it now, I guess I've grown into the bike. It might be good to first state that I don't fit the usual Riv customer profile. I've been riding XC since 13 (age 32 at time of writing), and more recently gotten into road riding. I love my go-fast kit, enjoy racing and train with a heart rate monitor. That's not to say that I don't ever Just Ride - I ride in a variety of ways. I first specced my Hillborne with moustache bars, a schmidt dynohub (powering BM lights front and rear) , phil rivy 7 speed rear hub, 42mm marathon extremes (knobby) , tektro 720 cantis, MKS Sylvan pedals and B17 saddle. I went to town on this build, thinking it'd be my bike to tour the world on. I didn't enjoy riding it so much, it felt slow on the road, and not nearly as much fun as my racing hardtail off road. The moustache bars have the cool XO look, but felt awkward to me - I could never settle into a position for long. I didn't start to really enjoy and appreciate the bike until after making several changes... which I would recommend to anyone who enjoys aggressive riding. - Noodle bars and technomic stem: this handlebar setup gave me enough positions to play with, both aggressive and relaxed. The only way to go, imho. Much more comfortable over a long trip, and easier to crank out power than on a moustache bar. - Jack Brown tires: The best 700c tire for this bike! These make it possible to keep up with slower roadies while being very comfortable and secure. For the same effort that I can keep my 23mm road racer going at 40 kph, I can keep these tires going at 35 kph, which is pretty darn good considering 50psi comfort and the Hillborne's significant heft. I feel that a fatter, knobby tire like the 42mm marathon extreme is overkill for this frame, and doesn't allow me to ride off road any faster anyway. - Crankbrothers 50/50 platform pedals : these were actually for my full suspension trail bike but were put on the Hillborne while the trail bike was out of service. Its much easier to put power down on the bike with a grippy platform pedal vs. a more slippery MKS Sylvan. It lets me charge over rough surfaces and accelerate with a great deal more conviction = more fun. I'd tried clipless pedals on the Hillborne too, but platforms allow you to embrace the Rivendell / Grant philosophy properly, and it works really well. I've not been a huge fan of the Silver friction shifters, and I am just about getting used to them now. I don't shift very often on this bike, whereas I am constantly shifting on my road racer to keep power output at a max. I prefer my dura-ace brifters, but I can appreciate that friction bar ends do work well for this bike's intended purpose. I ride this bike every where now. In any type of clothing, into any non-extreme terrain. Commuting, adventuring, training, its never a bad time to take the Riv out, especially when the terrain or weather is unexpected. Ridden at an easy pace, this bike is effortless. Ridden hard, its fast enough to feel fun and nimble. Not as quick as a road racer, but certainly quick enough. The ride is like most would rave about - supple, confident, secure. I agree wholeheartedly with Grant that if you had just one bike, you couldn't do better, though knowing what I know now, I might've sprung for a Roadeo instead, specced it with a full Ultegra 2x10 drivetrain, and reduced my stable by one bike. Complaints: I did have regular trouble with chain suck when the bike from new. It tends to be a problem when riding very muddy/dusty terrain. I generally don't ride so much dirt with the hillborne now, and also keep the drivetrain clean and well lubed, and the problem is not present then. Dirt roads are generally fine, singletrack tends to cause problems. I also managed to break the frame whilst riding some singletrack. Not a very big impact, riding up a river embankment, nothing that threw me off the bike, but I cracked the joints joining the headtube to downtube and lower top tube (56 cm, Waterford, double top tube model) This is not a strike against Riv or Waterford - these things happen, and no manufacturer is 100%. To Riv's credit, John handled the matter most graciously and offered me a chance to buy a shop model at a deeply discounted price w frame swap. My problem was that being based in South East Asia, shipping
RE: [RBW] Re: How are Rivbikes painted?
Trolls paint CF? -Anonymous- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Jim Cloud [cloud...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: How are Rivbikes painted? Hobbits from Rivendell carefully paint each bike. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 18, 8:49 am, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How are Rivbikes painted?
On Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:28:33 PM UTC-4, David G wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTGtoTlJyh0 - David G in SF On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:49 AM, lungimsam john1...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? Love that video... FWIW, if you get a custom, or opt for the paint upcharge, Joe Bell then does them. Interviews from the RR w/ Joe are here: http://www.campyonly.com/joebell/interview.html http://www.campyonly.com/joebell/How%20We%20Paint%20Bikes%20by%20Joe%20Bell%20and%20Crew.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9yzGJZYlflUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Removing chain guard glue glunk from frame
Goof Off. I've used it for this exact purpose and it works like a charm. I got it at Home Depot On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Citra-solv is the best I've found. Stronger than goo-gone. Use outside if possible as the orange smell lingers a while! Best, joe broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot Attire
I vote for a new model: The Dick Dastardly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Dastardly Ryan On Aug 14, 6:42 am, Marc Schwartz mschw...@nmsu.edu wrote: Hola! Does anyone know where to get a (Rocky the Flying Squirrel) leather aviator hatgoggles to wear when planing on my Bleriot? Note; hilarious relationship between Bleriot and Planing was pointed out by a prominent listmember a few months back. Kudos! It still cracks me up! Marc He swore at the Devil, Then he went for a ride. -Radney Foster- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Marc Schwartz [mschw...@nmsu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:28 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Huzzah! Huzzah! Roll bar behind Brooks Banana? 5 speed emascultor Hurst -type rear derailer shifter on top tube? I think Rat Fink is still copyrighted, but Rangutan is better. GREAT Is that coffee ready yet? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of lungimsam [john11.2...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:15 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! I would call it the Rivendell 'Rangutan. Brooks banana seat, Nitto Ape-Hangers, paint it Orangutan Rust (like their coats), and use Cocoanut husk to twine the bar tape/bamboo grips. The vine-like stays would finish off the jungle motif along with an Orangutan Headbadge and DT label of the word 'Rangutan with a vine running throughout the word, and a 'tan swinging on the end of the vine- a la Bleriot with the plane and its trail. (DT design could alternatively be a dust trail through the name, with the bike at one end with Grant and Orangutan riding in the banana seat - a la Bleriot design with plane and trail.) The name would also porvide an easy way to circumvent any TM's or R's or copyrights, as I think the Rivfolks could emerge from the naming meeting, satisfied that the term 'Rangutan is not used anywhere else for anything, worldwide. Seriously, this is a great looking bike, be sure to post pics of the build!! I wonder what the name really is? I like that green. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/I7b21YWAh40J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne review
7 years ago, I had to bend back my front dropout on the Ram fork. Good as new in just a few minutes for something that initially had made me gasp. I was happy to have steel then. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:49 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Great to hear the repair-ability part. We hear how steel is easily repairable, but never really hear of anyone doing it! On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:41 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Pics, pics!! Love to see it. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:23:08 PM UTC-4, Paul Yeoh wrote: Tried to post this to rivbike.com, but they only allow 1000 characters and this review is about 5X that. Hope it helps anyone looking at the Hillborne. This review is overdue, I have had the bike almost 2 years now, and its been through a few configurations. I didn't love it at first, but I really do appreciate it now, I guess I've grown into the bike. It might be good to first state that I don't fit the usual Riv customer profile. I've been riding XC since 13 (age 32 at time of writing), and more recently gotten into road riding. I love my go-fast kit, enjoy racing and train with a heart rate monitor. That's not to say that I don't ever Just Ride - I ride in a variety of ways. I first specced my Hillborne with moustache bars, a schmidt dynohub (powering BM lights front and rear) , phil rivy 7 speed rear hub, 42mm marathon extremes (knobby) , tektro 720 cantis, MKS Sylvan pedals and B17 saddle. I went to town on this build, thinking it'd be my bike to tour the world on. I didn't enjoy riding it so much, it felt slow on the road, and not nearly as much fun as my racing hardtail off road. The moustache bars have the cool XO look, but felt awkward to me - I could never settle into a position for long. I didn't start to really enjoy and appreciate the bike until after making several changes... which I would recommend to anyone who enjoys aggressive riding. - Noodle bars and technomic stem: this handlebar setup gave me enough positions to play with, both aggressive and relaxed. The only way to go, imho. Much more comfortable over a long trip, and easier to crank out power than on a moustache bar. - Jack Brown tires: The best 700c tire for this bike! These make it possible to keep up with slower roadies while being very comfortable and secure. For the same effort that I can keep my 23mm road racer going at 40 kph, I can keep these tires going at 35 kph, which is pretty darn good considering 50psi comfort and the Hillborne's significant heft. I feel that a fatter, knobby tire like the 42mm marathon extreme is overkill for this frame, and doesn't allow me to ride off road any faster anyway. - Crankbrothers 50/50 platform pedals : these were actually for my full suspension trail bike but were put on the Hillborne while the trail bike was out of service. Its much easier to put power down on the bike with a grippy platform pedal vs. a more slippery MKS Sylvan. It lets me charge over rough surfaces and accelerate with a great deal more conviction = more fun. I'd tried clipless pedals on the Hillborne too, but platforms allow you to embrace the Rivendell / Grant philosophy properly, and it works really well. I've not been a huge fan of the Silver friction shifters, and I am just about getting used to them now. I don't shift very often on this bike, whereas I am constantly shifting on my road racer to keep power output at a max. I prefer my dura-ace brifters, but I can appreciate that friction bar ends do work well for this bike's intended purpose. I ride this bike every where now. In any type of clothing, into any non-extreme terrain. Commuting, adventuring, training, its never a bad time to take the Riv out, especially when the terrain or weather is unexpected. Ridden at an easy pace, this bike is effortless. Ridden hard, its fast enough to feel fun and nimble. Not as quick as a road racer, but certainly quick enough. The ride is like most would rave about - supple, confident, secure. I agree wholeheartedly with Grant that if you had just one bike, you couldn't do better, though knowing what I know now, I might've sprung for a Roadeo instead, specced it with a full Ultegra 2x10 drivetrain, and reduced my stable by one bike. Complaints: I did have regular trouble with chain suck when the bike from new. It tends to be a problem when riding very muddy/dusty terrain. I generally don't ride so much dirt with the hillborne now, and also keep the drivetrain clean and well lubed, and the problem is not present then. Dirt roads are generally fine, singletrack tends to cause problems. I also managed to break the frame whilst riding some singletrack. Not a very big impact, riding up a river embankment, nothing that threw me off the bike, but I cracked the joints joining the headtube to downtube and lower top tube
Re: [RBW] How are Rivbikes painted?
My favorite part of that video is the seattube panel. He eyes it quickly, then..BAM. The decal is on perfectly. Amazing. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:01:38 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: On Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:28:33 PM UTC-4, David G wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTGtoTlJyh0 - David G in SF On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:49 AM, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote: What's the process? Is it powdercoat, or some other way? What type of clearcoat do they put on it? Love that video... FWIW, if you get a custom, or opt for the paint upcharge, Joe Bell then does them. Interviews from the RR w/ Joe are here: http://www.campyonly.com/joebell/interview.html http://www.campyonly.com/joebell/How%20We%20Paint%20Bikes%20by%20Joe%20Bell%20and%20Crew.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/la0S2q8-nmEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen simpleone in minneapolis
I'll also keep an eye open. Thought I had the only SimpleOne in the Twin Cities. Mine is a 60 if anyone sees me on it. Oh, and it has a Shimano Alfine crank which is about as not a TA crank as one can get. Bummer on the theft. Hopefully it'll turn up soon. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Please tell us it was locked up. Bummer! I really hope you get your bike back. Theft is endemic in Winnipeg. I lock the commuters(X0-1, Peugeot PX-10 converted to SS) in the garage and the Rivs I keep in the house. Unfortunately, if thieves are determined,no security is completely foolproof but I'm sure you don't need to hear that. Good luck On Friday, August 17, 2012 2:15:43 PM UTC-5, dylan alverson wrote: HI my 56 cm simple one was stolen off my porch last night if anyone sees it. It had a dura ace headset, phil bottom bracket, ta cranks, black sun tour xc pedals, phil track wheels, white industries dos freewheel, nitto post and stem albatross bars, paul levers and cantilevers, honey brooks b 17 special, a velo orange porteur rack, schwalbe kojak tires. Thanks Dylan 360-292-9126 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pXo5gSFIzHcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
I'll post some close ups next week... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D-Cew7CongYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
Yes, the bridge is original and the frame has a nice rear cable hanger welded in place as well ... this, I believe is because the first runs of these frames predate the silvers or Tektro calipers. I've run both and found a little more room for the fenders with the center pulls (particularly in front). Maybe the side pull calipers are a little nicer feeling ... but not enough to be bothered over. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IjWsgUDg6IMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make them work well. As much as I dont like the looks of v-brakes if I didnt have an attachmen to my standard levers I would go that way. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of pedals am I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but after a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on off when you want to. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote: Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It was a deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but incredibly happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking the bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much needed with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the purchase I have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake levers, rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left to do is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride! Through the process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you want them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this one). Here are some pics: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/ACs/sOQqlu3FpAM/s1600/IMG_1022%5B1%5D.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QiOsaZWu-EgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki porn
The badge is a modified version of one of two cast Saluki badges. You can see the original in this photo: *http://tinyurl.com/clmfjfy* Not sure which came first, but there were two versions of theSaluki badge. Who doesn't like dogs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W7LEgjJ9CEUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
I only skimmed over that write up, but I think its much simpler to stick with vertical and horizontal components at the cable attachment to the brake. The vertical component is independent of straddle wire angle, the horizontal part goes to infinity as the straddle wire becomes straight. I think there is a lot less trig to work through when you skip that whole tangent point on the straddle wire thing and since its not necessary why bother? On Aug 17, 3:26 pm, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to a cool document describing the MA for various brake profiles: http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf It even uses as an Paul Neo Retros as an example. -Matt On Friday, August 17, 2012 1:42:32 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote: Funny how canti brakes are so simple yet quite theoretically and operationally quite complicated. As I understand canti operations, I agree with Jeremy that you will gain some mechanical advantage from a lower straddle cable. You might also run fine sandpaper along the rim braking surface just to insure it is clean and 'open' to the brake pads. After you have ridden it for awhile, I would like to hear your comparison/contrast to the LHT, a bike with different tube diameters and thickness but very similar geometry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
I only skimmed over that write up, but I think its much simpler to stick with vertical and horizontal components at the cable attachment to the brake. The vertical component is independent of straddle wire angle, the horizontal part goes to infinity as the straddle wire becomes straight. I think there is a lot less trig to work through when you skip that whole tangent point on the straddle wire thing and since its not necessary why bother? On Aug 17, 3:26 pm, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to a cool document describing the MA for various brake profiles: http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/canti-geometry.pdf It even uses as an Paul Neo Retros as an example. -Matt On Friday, August 17, 2012 1:42:32 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote: Funny how canti brakes are so simple yet quite theoretically and operationally quite complicated. As I understand canti operations, I agree with Jeremy that you will gain some mechanical advantage from a lower straddle cable. You might also run fine sandpaper along the rim braking surface just to insure it is clean and 'open' to the brake pads. After you have ridden it for awhile, I would like to hear your comparison/contrast to the LHT, a bike with different tube diameters and thickness but very similar geometry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which headbadge/DT/ST art set do you like best on Rivbikes?
On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:29:56 PM UTC-5, Jim Cloud wrote: I think that an interesting variant of a Rivendell Saluki headbadge done as a custom by the owner (Ed Braley), for his personal Saluki bicycle is in this Flickr photostream set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25373440@N00/sets/72157600061466973/ Yeah - that badge mod is pretty nice. There were two different Saluki badges made. Not sure why, but here's the original version as reference: *http://tinyurl.com/clmfjfy* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JhZ_L-Iiia0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
What kind of brakes do you have? It took me a while to get the cr720s on my Bombadill to run quiet but they are fine now. On Aug 18, 6:45 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make them work well. As much as I dont like the looks of v-brakes if I didnt have an attachmen to my standard levers I would go that way. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of pedals am I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but after a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on off when you want to. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote: Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It was a deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but incredibly happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking the bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much needed with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the purchase I have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake levers, rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left to do is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride! Through the process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you want them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this one). Here are some pics: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/AC... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QiOsaZWu-EgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
Paul touring, I noticed now my cable straddle is pretty high but lowering
it means replacement on the cables. Will wait for a rainy day and see if I
can get it right. Front is pretty good but rear is somewhat tight.
On Aug 19, 2012 12:02 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
What kind of brakes do you have?
It took me a while to get the cr720s on my Bombadill to run quiet but
they are fine now.
On Aug 18, 6:45 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a
good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my
Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to
stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make
them work well. As much as I dont like the looks of v-brakes if I didnt
have an attachmen to my standard levers I would go that way.
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com
wrote:
Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of
pedals am
I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but
after
a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on
off when you want to.
Michael
On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote:
Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums
members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It
was a
deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but
incredibly
happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking
the
bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much
needed
with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This
allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the
purchase I
have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul
Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake
levers,
rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added
yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left
to do
is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride!
Through the
process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with
canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you
want
them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this
one). Here
are some pics:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/AC...
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[RBW] Re: Which headbadge/DT/ST art set do you like best on Rivbikes?
I guess I should weigh in as I was able to have every badge in hand for a while. I can narrow it down to two. Even though I own a Bombadil and a Quickbeam, it's a close race between the silver and blue Rivendell custom badge, and the Hunqapiller. Both seen here: *http://tinyurl.com/cwl2al7* * * *http://tinyurl.com/8u8az3s * * * Then again, the Legolas is really, really nice. And the Atlantis. And the Rambouillet. And the Bleriot... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/04-jYYvNE1oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
I mean replacing the brake wires, not the actual cables. Not the biggest
job I know but fiddling with brakes is tedious work. I like how the Pauls
have adjustable tension and i would like to acutally have more snap back
but then it really goes gorilla hand mode. Am I missing something to the
setup? I had the CR720s and they were easier to set up but didnt stop my
250lbs all that well, even with koolstop pads.
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:
Paul touring, I noticed now my cable straddle is pretty high but lowering
it means replacement on the cables. Will wait for a rainy day and see if I
can get it right. Front is pretty good but rear is somewhat tight.
On Aug 19, 2012 12:02 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:
What kind of brakes do you have?
It took me a while to get the cr720s on my Bombadill to run quiet but
they are fine now.
On Aug 18, 6:45 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a
good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my
Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to
stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make
them work well. As much as I dont like the looks of v-brakes if I didnt
have an attachmen to my standard levers I would go that way.
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com
wrote:
Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of
pedals am
I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but
after
a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them
on
off when you want to.
Michael
On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote:
Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums
members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It
was a
deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but
incredibly
happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking
the
bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much
needed
with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin.
This
allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the
purchase I
have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul
Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake
levers,
rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added
yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is
left to do
is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride!
Through the
process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking
with
canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where
you want
them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this
one). Here
are some pics:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/AC...
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[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
Sometimes it seems that cables are the bane of my existence. I've taken to leaving em as long as I can minimize the need to replace em if I decide to change something. I recently replaced an old stem with a taller one and now the front brake cable and housing are only barely long enough to permit dragging my feet over replacing them. g. On Aug 18, 9:05 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Paul touring, I noticed now my cable straddle is pretty high but lowering it means replacement on the cables. Will wait for a rainy day and see if I can get it right. Front is pretty good but rear is somewhat tight. On Aug 19, 2012 12:02 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: What kind of brakes do you have? It took me a while to get the cr720s on my Bombadill to run quiet but they are fine now. On Aug 18, 6:45 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make them work well. As much as I dont like the looks of v-brakes if I didnt have an attachmen to my standard levers I would go that way. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of pedals am I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but after a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on off when you want to. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote: Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It was a deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but incredibly happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking the bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much needed with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the purchase I have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake levers, rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left to do is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride! Through the process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you want them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this one). Here are some pics: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/AC... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QiOsaZWu-EgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
I have never used the Pauls, and you have a fair bit more mass to slow down than I do, so my experiences may not be relevant. If the straddle wire end of the brake is above the pivot point (when the pads are touching he rim) then the lower the straddle wire, the more leverage you are going to get. That leverage comes at the expense of greater bake lever travel which can limit how low you want to go with some brakes (particularly low profile ones). Some folks end up toeing in their pads a lot to stop squeel. That tends to make brakes perform poorly (though quietly). With the 720s I need to disengage the return springs when I set the pads. I hold both pads against the rim at the same time, and roll the wheel forward so everything is where it ends up under braking before tightening the bolt. The way the Pauls are built they probably don't rock as much at the 720s do so maybe thats not as big an issue with them. On Aug 18, 9:09 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I mean replacing the brake wires, not the actual cables. Not the biggest job I know but fiddling with brakes is tedious work. I like how the Pauls have adjustable tension and i would like to acutally have more snap back but then it really goes gorilla hand mode. Am I missing something to the setup? I had the CR720s and they were easier to set up but didnt stop my 250lbs all that well, even with koolstop pads. On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Paul touring, I noticed now my cable straddle is pretty high but lowering it means replacement on the cables. Will wait for a rainy day and see if I can get it right. Front is pretty good but rear is somewhat tight. On Aug 19, 2012 12:02 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: What kind of brakes do you have? It took me a while to get the cr720s on my Bombadill to run quiet but they are fine now. On Aug 18, 6:45 pm, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Nice stuff, did you hand paint that rear rack or find a spray that was a good match? I am this close to just admitting defeat and bringin in my Bombadi to the LBS to have them tweak the brakes. I finally got them to stop squeaking but feel like I need to grip them like a gorilla to make them work well. As much as I dont like the looks of v-brakes if I didnt have an attachmen to my standard levers I would go that way. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Very sweet looking. It reignites my Atlantis lust! What kind of pedals am I seeing? There is definitely a learning curve to Paul's cantis, but after a short while it will seem very easy to readjust them, or take them on off when you want to. Michael On Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:29:52 AM UTC-4, The Cripler wrote: Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It was a deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but incredibly happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking the bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much needed with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the purchase I have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake levers, rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left to do is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride! Through the process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you want them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this one). Here are some pics: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/AC... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QiOsaZWu-EgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
[RBW] Re: Silver Downtube shifters and 10-speed cassette?
I think I will ask my LBS if they can get it done for me 7-speed. I'll get a new chain to boot. Sounds like easier shifting. 10-speed is pretty tight spacing and I get spontaneous shifts if I am not careful. Wider spacing sounds easier. I'll go 7-speed. Less cogs the better I think for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/S-ghPmjNUZsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: fat tires for the Hillborne
Charlie, That's an awesome pic of your Green Sam with the cat in the back! Beautiful colors! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Q18mEDatbrMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
