date:20130102



 Definitely feel you on this one.

 

 When I first got into cycling I tried to go fast all the time. But I never 
 could.
 I guess it takes serious training to get those 20mph average speeds.
 But I never was interested enough to train.
  

I like my 13-16 mph commuting and I go for metric century/long rides with a 
pal who is my speed. When I go out to restaurants for casual lunches with 
my family, I tell them See you there in 30 minutes.. And I use that as an 
opportunity to ride. My wife likes cycling so she gets it. She encourages 
me to ride.
I like cycling for the fun of it and seeing the beauty of God's creation.
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread Peter Morgano

I only average about 11mph but in South Brooklyn there is a headwind of
about 15mph on one leg of my trips 99% of the time and I am not
aerodynamic, haha.

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Definitely feel you on this one.



 When I first got into cycling I tried to go fast all the time. But I
 never could.
 I guess it takes serious training to get those 20mph average speeds.
 But I never was interested enough to train.


 I like my 13-16 mph commuting and I go for metric century/long rides with
 a pal who is my speed. When I go out to restaurants for casual lunches with
 my family, I tell them See you there in 30 minutes.. And I use that as an
 opportunity to ride. My wife likes cycling so she gets it. She encourages
 me to ride.
 I like cycling for the fun of it and seeing the beauty of God's creation.



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[RBW] Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

One potential custom idea that I think would be cool would be a proper 
touring bike with really long chainstays.  I'm thinking an Atlantis front 
end with maybe 50-52cm chainstays.  Virtually everybody who's tried to fit 
a pannier knows that the downside to too-short chainstays on a touring bike 
is that your feet hit the panniers and you may have insufficient clearance 
for the tires you want to run.  What's the downside to too-long chainstays 
on a touring bike?  I cannot think of one.  Before riding the Appaloosa I 
would have speculated that maybe it would be too flexy or maybe the 
handling would be too weird.  Now that I have ridden the Appaloosa, I know 
first-hand that both of those fears are 100% misplaced.  

The longest chainstays I know of on traditional touring bikes are in the 
47-48cm range, but I'm not an expert on the topic.  Another full inch or 
two of heel room might be perfect for everything touring-related EXCEPT 
packing the bike.  Eventual lucky-raffle-winner, consider it!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Citroens and Hetres

2013-01-02 Thread Joe Bunik

On 1/2/13, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
 great photo of the rando.  not particularly fond of the car - no offense
 thought I always like the movie gag where they tear them in half and the
 front end keeps running

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/paint.jpg


 On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:09:49 PM UTC-6, IanA wrote:

 I was looking at Citroen pics on flickr when I came across this shot.
  Thought it might appeal to the group.

 http://www.flickr.com/groups/citroen/pool/with/7508017116/lightbox/


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Re: [RBW] Slow Riding

Ditto for the 10-11 mph average... Although my 2013 goal is to do those
more often...

René

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, Peter Morgano wrote:

 I only average about 11mph but in South Brooklyn there is a headwind of
 about 15mph on one leg of my trips 99% of the time and I am not
 aerodynamic, haha.

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 john11.2...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'john11.2...@gmail.com');
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 Definitely feel you on this one.



 When I first got into cycling I tried to go fast all the time. But I
 never could.
 I guess it takes serious training to get those 20mph average speeds.
 But I never was interested enough to train.


 I like my 13-16 mph commuting and I go for metric century/long rides with
 a pal who is my speed. When I go out to restaurants for casual lunches with
 my family, I tell them See you there in 30 minutes.. And I use that as an
 opportunity to ride. My wife likes cycling so she gets it. She encourages
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 I like cycling for the fun of it and seeing the beauty of God's creation.



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[RBW] Re: Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread Garth


If you really Love what you're doing  What's the hurry ? ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Slow Riding

I feel you.  I still have the memories of my youth when I took it personal 
every time somebody passed me or dropped me, and when I'd feel a little 
alpha dog surge whenever I passed someone else.  I've let that all go for 
the most part.  

During brevets I am a little bit conflicted.  I'm under some pressure to 
put in a good time, to minimize riding time after dark.  My wife and kids 
worry quite a bit.  So I sometimes try to hang with the faster riders, 
staying on a wheel to speed me along.  But when I get dropped I always find 
plenty of pleasure in enjoying the countryside, and I like my own company 
just fine, so pacelining holds only the appeal of finishing faster, which 
is a very limited appeal.  

Some of the truly legendary Randonneurs and Randonneuses are among the slow 
riders.  It's a huge treat riding with them to hear their stories, riding 
at a pace that encourages conversation.  It's all fun, and it's all 
cycling.  

On Monday, December 31, 2012 1:35:20 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote:

 Perhaps because I didn't cut my teeth on a high performance road bike and 
 I've always been more of a commuter/errand runner, I've noticed riding with 
 other cyclist friends (who are in much better fitness than I) I am always 
 falling off the back-

 yet I don't really mind. Since getting my Hilborne, I'm content to chug 
 along in my plain clothes at 13-15 mph, stop at the library, ride to work 
 etc... I feel no motivation or ambition to perform on a bike. Maybe it 
 would be different if I lived in a warmer climate and purchased a Tarmac?

 Anybody else feel me on this? 

 Tim/Seattle


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[RBW] Re: New Year's Day Ride

2013-01-02 Thread Montclair BobbyB

I DID get out to enjoy a New Years Day ride.  I rode solo, and didn't have 
views quite like San Francisco or Mt Ranier, but I did take advantage of 
the local trails up and down the beautiful Delaware River.  Here are a few 
shots:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461051@N04/8337655687/in/set-72157632415133754

Happy New Year.

On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 7:12:42 PM UTC-5, Andy Williams wrote:

 A great day to ride around Seattle.30 miles around the Magnolia Bluff. 
   Pictures prove it happened

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[RBW] FS: Salsa Stem, VO + Nitto Bars, Turbo saddle

2013-01-02 Thread Jeremy Till

(x post from iBOB, apologies if you see it twice)

Clearing out some items I'm not likely to use. There may be more coming.
Pictures here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/sets/72157632416300758/Reasonable
offers accepted, especially if you buy more than one item or pick up
locally in the SF Bay Area.

-Salsa CroMoto 1 1/8 threadless stem. 100mm, 110 degree, 26.0mm clamp.
Original canvas bag included. The person I bought it from said it had been
made by Waterford, but I never confirmed that. AFAIK, this was not one of
the recalled stems from a few years ago. I rode it for maybe 1k miles?
Classy looking and hard to find! $50 shipped.
-Velo Orange Grand Cru Course Round Bend handlebar, 46cm width, 26.0mm
clamp. Installed once, ridden for very few miles (200?) before I figured
out the shape didn't work on my bike. Never wrapped. More info here.
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/handlebars/grand-cru-course-handlebar-classic-round-bend.html$30

shipped.
-Nitto Trekking Handlebar. Bought on a whim at a Rivendell Garage Sale,
never ridden by me (not sure if they rode it before me). Just want to
recover the $15 I bought it for. My wife threatens to leave me if I ever
install this on my bike.
-Cool Selle Italia Turbo Bernard Hinault Special Edition saddle, with
badger logos on the sides of the nose! Came on a used Della Santa acquired
by a friend, given to me as a finder's fee. I rode it briefly before
discovering I don't like the shape. The Turbo logo on the nose is worn
but otherwise in good shape, maybe a little faded. $50 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread cyclotourist

That's my average speed, no matter if I want to go faster or not!


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ditto for the 10-11 mph average... Although my 2013 goal is to do those
 more often...

 René


 On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, Peter Morgano wrote:

 I only average about 11mph but in South Brooklyn there is a headwind of
 about 15mph on one leg of my trips 99% of the time and I am not
 aerodynamic, haha.

 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Definitely feel you on this one.



 When I first got into cycling I tried to go fast all the time. But I
 never could.
 I guess it takes serious training to get those 20mph average speeds.
 But I never was interested enough to train.


 I like my 13-16 mph commuting and I go for metric century/long rides
 with a pal who is my speed. When I go out to restaurants for casual lunches
 with my family, I tell them See you there in 30 minutes.. And I use that
 as an opportunity to ride. My wife likes cycling so she gets it. She
 encourages me to ride.
 I like cycling for the fun of it and seeing the beauty of God's creation.



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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Probably not a deal breaker for everyone, but perhaps worth considering... 
one downside of a longer than normal bike is that it won't fit on 
transit. My 65cm Homer barely fits on the bus/light rail racks here in 
Portland. Another cm in wheelbase length or fatter tires would make it 
incompatible with the front racks on the busses. I have 2-3 cm wiggle room 
on the light rail.  

I haven't had any issues with heel strike on my Homer. Size 12 shoes + 
large-ish Arkel/Ortlieb bags.  

A Surly Big Dummy is my daily driver. It has an effective chain stay length 
(BB-DO) of about 82cm. Long bikes are great. 

The Appaloosa makes me thing of the stretched-out beach cruisers that were 
popular in Southern CA around the turn of the most recent century (not sure 
if they still are-- I'm in Portland now) They were fun to ride. I imagine 
the Appaloosa to be a better/ more functional version of that. 

--Smitty



On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:52:55 AM UTC-8, William wrote:

 One potential custom idea that I think would be cool would be a proper 
 touring bike with really long chainstays.  I'm thinking an Atlantis front 
 end with maybe 50-52cm chainstays.  Virtually everybody who's tried to fit 
 a pannier knows that the downside to too-short chainstays on a touring bike 
 is that your feet hit the panniers and you may have insufficient clearance 
 for the tires you want to run.  What's the downside to too-long chainstays 
 on a touring bike?  I cannot think of one.  Before riding the Appaloosa I 
 would have speculated that maybe it would be too flexy or maybe the 
 handling would be too weird.  Now that I have ridden the Appaloosa, I know 
 first-hand that both of those fears are 100% misplaced.  

 The longest chainstays I know of on traditional touring bikes are in the 
 47-48cm range, but I'm not an expert on the topic.  Another full inch or 
 two of heel room might be perfect for everything touring-related EXCEPT 
 packing the bike.  Eventual lucky-raffle-winner, consider it!




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Re: [RBW] Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Interesting. On my errand rides my iPhone Cyclemeter app usually records
~12 mph clock running over largely residential streets, but there are so
many variables that average is not a useful tool. Eg, yesterday's 12 mile
return leg recorded 11.9 but that included a 5-to-10 minute stop to adjust
a cleat on the first-time-this-year-broken-out Lake winter boots, as well
as 3 1/2 miles of climbing against a stiff N wind in a 75 gear on the
gofast (didn't walk on the very steep 4/10 mile hill up the Rio Rancho
mesa! Light wheels **climb*! Whoo hoo!). Outbound, with the wind behind me
and 500 feet of elevation drop, 15.5 average with a stop at the PO to use
the machine to send a Priority Mail package, this on the '03's 72 gear
(switched Rivs at turnaround point).

OTOH, back in 2008 -- 2005, when I commuted on the '03 Riv fixed across
town 15 miles, ~12 mph average by computer was the standard, clock running
-- urban blocks and 7 miles uphill, most gradual, 70 gear. (OTOH again,
return home was also about 12 mph thanks to headwinds and traffic and fixed
gear.) Back when I was a young 40-something, I'd do a slightly longer 16
mile cross-town commute but, instead of back roads, I'd go straight up
Central/Route 66, lights a mile apart, and routinely break 60 minutes --
best time 18; liked to pass and stay ahead of the #66 bus; and it wasn't
really fun because I felt tired all the time and caught cold easily. ~67
fixed.

For me, it is important to find a good mean between riding slowly enough to
stay aerobic and riding energetically for fun. At almost-58 I am getting to
the point where I can find and maintain this, particularly for climbing
hills while standing. I do really love, love, love at least short steep (=
1 mile) or gradual longer hills on a fixed gear. Downhill, meh.



On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:26 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's my average speed, no matter if I want to go faster or not!


 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ditto for the 10-11 mph average... Although my 2013 goal is to do those
 more often...

 René


 On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, Peter Morgano wrote:

 I only average about 11mph but in South Brooklyn there is a headwind of
 about 15mph on one leg of my trips 99% of the time and I am not
 aerodynamic, haha.

 On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Definitely feel you on this one.



 When I first got into cycling I tried to go fast all the time. But I
 never could.
 I guess it takes serious training to get those 20mph average speeds.
 But I never was interested enough to train.


 I like my 13-16 mph commuting and I go for metric century/long rides
 with a pal who is my speed. When I go out to restaurants for casual lunches
 with my family, I tell them See you there in 30 minutes.. And I use that
 as an opportunity to ride. My wife likes cycling so she gets it. She
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 I like cycling for the fun of it and seeing the beauty of God's
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Re: [RBW] Slow Riding

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 12:47 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 Interesting. On my errand rides my iPhone Cyclemeter app usually
 records ~12 mph clock running over largely residential streets, but
 there are so many variables that average is not a useful tool. Eg,
 yesterday's 12 mile return leg recorded 11.9 but that included a
 5-to-10 minute stop to adjust a cleat on the
 first-time-this-year-broken-out Lake winter boots, as well as 3 1/2
 miles of climbing against a stiff N wind in a 75 gear on the gofast
 (didn't walk on the very steep 4/10 mile hill up the Rio Rancho mesa!
 Light wheels **climb*! Whoo hoo!). Outbound, with the wind behind me
 and 500 feet of elevation drop, 15.5 average with a stop at the PO to
 use the machine to send a Priority Mail package, this on the '03's 72
 gear (switched Rivs at turnaround point).

This is why moving average is generally used.  The only circumstance I
know of where overall average, i.e., counting time not moving, matters
is in randonneuring events.



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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Leslie

Since I've got a curvy-stay Bombadil already, as much as I like the name 
Appaloosa and might see a 'need' for it as an alternate bike, I really 
think, what I'd 'spec' for myself would be, a 650b Legolas



On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 12:52:55 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

 One potential custom idea that I think would be cool would be a proper 
 touring bike with really long chainstays.  I'm thinking an Atlantis front 
 end with maybe 50-52cm chainstays.  Virtually everybody who's tried to fit 
 a pannier knows that the downside to too-short chainstays on a touring bike 
 is that your feet hit the panniers and you may have insufficient clearance 
 for the tires you want to run.  What's the downside to too-long chainstays 
 on a touring bike?  I cannot think of one.  Before riding the Appaloosa I 
 would have speculated that maybe it would be too flexy or maybe the 
 handling would be too weird.  Now that I have ridden the Appaloosa, I know 
 first-hand that both of those fears are 100% misplaced.  

 The longest chainstays I know of on traditional touring bikes are in the 
 47-48cm range, but I'm not an expert on the topic.  Another full inch or 
 two of heel room might be perfect for everything touring-related EXCEPT 
 packing the bike.  Eventual lucky-raffle-winner, consider it!




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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Rick

On Jan 2, 4:17 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since I've got a curvy-stay Bombadil already, as much as I like the name
 Appaloosa and might see a 'need' for it as an alternate bike, I really
 think, what I'd 'spec' for myself would be, a 650b Legolas

Now that's also an attractive option.

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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

Leslie

650B Legolas!  

You already know that's what I'll be ordering if I win.  Marc's racing 
cross custom with 650B wheels.  Lower BB, and the lightest skinniest tubing 
I can get away with.  1threadless steerer.  

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:17:40 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:

 Since I've got a curvy-stay Bombadil already, as much as I like the name 
 Appaloosa and might see a 'need' for it as an alternate bike, I really 
 think, what I'd 'spec' for myself would be, a 650b Legolas



 On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 12:52:55 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

 One potential custom idea that I think would be cool would be a proper 
 touring bike with really long chainstays.  I'm thinking an Atlantis front 
 end with maybe 50-52cm chainstays.  Virtually everybody who's tried to fit 
 a pannier knows that the downside to too-short chainstays on a touring bike 
 is that your feet hit the panniers and you may have insufficient clearance 
 for the tires you want to run.  What's the downside to too-long chainstays 
 on a touring bike?  I cannot think of one.  Before riding the Appaloosa I 
 would have speculated that maybe it would be too flexy or maybe the 
 handling would be too weird.  Now that I have ridden the Appaloosa, I know 
 first-hand that both of those fears are 100% misplaced.  

 The longest chainstays I know of on traditional touring bikes are in the 
 47-48cm range, but I'm not an expert on the topic.  Another full inch or 
 two of heel room might be perfect for everything touring-related EXCEPT 
 packing the bike.  Eventual lucky-raffle-winner, consider it!




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[RBW] Re: Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread Swza

Hello Tim,
As I've gotten older I've definitely slowed down.  I feel as fit as I did 5 
to 10 years ago yet I don't feel the need to push it as I once did.  I get 
to work 5 minutes later but smelling better and in one piece.  I cringe 
thinking of the risks I used to take in traffic.  I feel fortunate I've 
never been hit so I show more respect to cycling and commuting now.
(Someone in Seattle is currently selling his 61.5cm 1971 Singer touring 
bike, might be on Craigslist)

Jeff
Denver

On Monday, December 31, 2012 2:35:20 PM UTC-7, Tim Tetrault wrote:

 Perhaps because I didn't cut my teeth on a high performance road bike and 
 I've always been more of a commuter/errand runner, I've noticed riding with 
 other cyclist friends (who are in much better fitness than I) I am always 
 falling off the back-

 yet I don't really mind. Since getting my Hilborne, I'm content to chug 
 along in my plain clothes at 13-15 mph, stop at the library, ride to work 
 etc... I feel no motivation or ambition to perform on a bike. Maybe it 
 would be different if I lived in a warmer climate and purchased a Tarmac?

 Anybody else feel me on this? 

 Tim/Seattle


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[RBW] Re: New Years Day PDX Ride?

2013-01-02 Thread Christopher Chen

Looks fantastic! Was in Astoria watching ships sail by.

Looking forward to the next ride!

cc

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle breathes ... sort of.

2013-01-02 Thread Johan Larsson

On Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:31:33 AM UTC+1, Michael wrote:

 At least, in this colder weather, I am pretty sure I can feel it 
 breathing through the 3 holes in my B17 saddle.
 Maybe this is what they mean by breathing.
 Grant wrote that he puckered up and blew on a saddle and couldn't feel any 
 air go through.
 But perhaps Brooks means the air passes through the three holes of the B17?


Breathing when it concerns materials is about transportation of water 
molecules, not air. A leather saddle breathes because it can take up, and 
distribute the moisture from your behind and let it evaporate through the 
saddles surface. It has nothing to do with transportation or exchange of 
air, even though air in practice is the transportation medium of the water 
vapor outside the leather.

As an example and clarification of an discussion I've seen about this, 
treating the underside of a leather saddle would indeed make it breathe 
worse. The vapor/steam pressure between your behind and saddle is 
comparatively high, and water is forced into the leather. If the saddle is 
untreated on the underside the water can evaporate more easily from there, 
beacuse the fat and waxes in leather treatment is designed to stop water 
from passing through, doesn't matter if it's coming from the outside or 
inside. If you should or should not treat the underside of the saddle 
however, is another question - but very far from an important one - as it 
works well both ways.

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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread EGNolan



 I like the idea of a mid-tail as well. I have my '84 Trek 850 set up in 
 a similar fashion, but could definitely use some extra chainstay length... 
 My thoughts are similar to yours, basically the Appaloosa  Atlantis 
 combined, for something similar to this: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahearnecycles/6918163949/

 
Best,
Eric (Indpls)
 

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[RBW] Re: [GoneRiding] For Sale: 57.5cm 1993 Bridgestone RB-1/7

2013-01-02 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

As someone who is a ride buddy of JimG, I can attest to the quality of this 
bicycle and the care which it has received.

- Jim (not JimG) 

cyclofi...@gmail.com


 -- Forwarded message -- 
 From: jim g ji...@yojimg.net javascript: 
 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:38:13 -0800 

 Finally getting around to selling my RB-1/7.  57.5cm size.  Awesome, near 
 original condition!  Asking $900.  Details at the CL post... 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/3513452547.html 

 More photos are at http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDqvsa2 

 Please forward to iBOB and RBW -- I'm not on either of those lists these 
 days. 

 Thanks! 
 -Jim G 

 -- 
 from jimg at yojimg dot net 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Slow Riding

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 06:10 -0800, Swza wrote:
 As I've gotten older I've definitely slowed down.  I feel as fit as I
 did 5 to 10 years ago yet I don't feel the need to push it as I once
 did.  I get to work 5 minutes later but smelling better and in one
 piece.  I cringe thinking of the risks I used to take in traffic.  I
 feel fortunate I've never been hit so I show more respect to cycling
 and commuting now. (Someone in Seattle is currently selling his 61.5cm
 1971 Singer touring bike, might be on Craigslist)

Obviously, age has brought greater wisdom.



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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Speaking of mid-tails... there was a Kinn Bike http://www.kinnbikes.comat the 
PDX Fiets of Parenthood this year. I got to ride it both as the 
driver and as the passenger. It was fun from both seats. The one I rode was 
set up as an around-town kid/grocery hauler but they mention on the site 
that it can be set up as an adventure tourer with fat tires. I don't know 
the story but it looks A LOT like the Ahearn in Eric's link.

I think Allan in PDX rode it too. 

--Smitty



On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:30:53 AM UTC-8, EGNolan wrote:

 I like the idea of a mid-tail as well. I have my '84 Trek 850 set up in 
 a similar fashion, but could definitely use some extra chainstay length... 
 My thoughts are similar to yours, basically the Appaloosa  Atlantis 
 combined, for something similar to this: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ahearnecycles/6918163949/

  
 Best,
 Eric (Indpls)
  


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[RBW] Re: [GoneRiding] For Sale: 57.5cm 1993 Bridgestone RB-1/7

It's got the stock tires on it!  That's pretty amazing20 years later.  

I've got a 1992, 56cm RB1, similarly unridden and stock.  Like Jim G I've 
concluded in my older age I prefer a larger bike.  I hope he gets his 
price, suggesting I might be able to get close to that when I sell.  Mine 
doesn't have the bi-plane fork, but the 1992 had a couple special things 
going for it.  

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:59:49 PM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 As someone who is a ride buddy of JimG, I can attest to the quality of 
 this bicycle and the care which it has received.

 - Jim (not JimG) 

 cyclo...@gmail.com javascript:


 -- Forwarded message -- 
 From: jim g ji...@yojimg.net 
 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:38:13 -0800 

 Finally getting around to selling my RB-1/7.  57.5cm size.  Awesome, near 
 original condition!  Asking $900.  Details at the CL post... 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/3513452547.html 

 More photos are at http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDqvsa2 

 Please forward to iBOB and RBW -- I'm not on either of those lists these 
 days. 

 Thanks! 
 -Jim G 

 -- 
 from jimg at yojimg dot net 



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[RBW] Re: Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread Mike Schiller

my solution is to ride with people who go at the pace you want to ride. 
 I'm also still struggling with not staying with the fastest riders in any 
group rides I do.  Even on a solo ride I catch myself pushing harder and 
have to consciously remind myself to slow down and enjoy the ride.  I think 
it's a leftover from working full time when every second seem to count more.

~mike
Carlsbad Ca.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Salsa Stem, VO + Nitto Bars, Turbo saddle

2013-01-02 Thread Ryan Ray

Haha. My wife threatens to leave me if I ever buy a pair of Keens.

- Ryan

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:25:53 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:

(x post from iBOB, apologies if you see it twice)

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[RBW] One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)

2013-01-02 Thread Joan Oppel

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8340027626/in/photostreamHmmm, can't figure out what MLK is saying about us! I am standing with the Bleriot (of course) - that's Steve Palincsar to my right with his George Longstaff (very handsome lugged bike).We rode from near National Harbor in Maryland, across the Wilson Bridge to Old Town Alexandria in Virginia, then along the Potomac River, crossing over to D.C. and regrouping at the Jefferson Memorial. Our group of 12 then toured some of the sites of DC: Martin Luther Kiing Memorial, World War !! memorial, White House, Capitol (where the House of Representatives flag was flying because they were debating the fiscal cliff bill). We passed many of the Smithsonian museums, and the Washington Monument, too. A fun time but a tour, not a fast ride.Joan



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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Trevor saxton

650b legolas/roadeo+horizontal dropouts=dream bike. 

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[RBW] Re: One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)

Is that photo-documentation of Steve Palinscar smiling?  Or is his 
balaclava just smooshing the sides of his face upwards?  I had Steve pegged 
as one of those 19th century souls who prefers not to smile for the camera. 
 

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 2:47:06 PM UTC-8, Joan wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8340027626/in/photostream

 Hmmm, can't figure out what MLK is saying about us!  I am standing with 
 the Bleriot (of course) - that's Steve Palincsar to my right with his 
 George Longstaff (very handsome lugged bike).

 We rode from near National Harbor in Maryland, across the Wilson Bridge to 
 Old Town Alexandria in Virginia, then along the Potomac River, crossing 
 over to D.C. and regrouping at the Jefferson Memorial.  Our group of 12 
 then toured some of the sites of DC:  Martin Luther Kiing Memorial, World 
 War !! memorial, White House, Capitol (where the House of Representatives 
 flag was flying because they were debating the fiscal cliff bill).  We 
 passed many of the Smithsonian museums, and the Washington Monument, too. 
  A fun time but a tour, not a fast ride.

 Joan



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Re: [RBW] One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 16:47 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/8340027626/in/photostream
 
 
 Hmmm, can't figure out what MLK is saying about us!  

I assume he's saying what the Park Ranger told us when he kicked us out
of the memorial:  No bikes allowed!  You can tell he meant it by the
stern expression on his face...

 I am standing with the Bleriot (of course) - that's Steve Palincsar to
 my right with his George Longstaff (very handsome lugged bike).

 We rode from near National Harbor in Maryland, across the Wilson
 Bridge to Old Town Alexandria in Virginia, then along the Potomac
 River, crossing over to D.C. and regrouping at the Jefferson Memorial.
 Our group of 12 then toured some of the sites of DC:  Martin Luther
 King Memorial, World War II memorial, White House, Capitol (where the
 House of Representatives flag was flying because they were debating
 the fiscal cliff bill).  We passed many of the Smithsonian museums,
 and the Washington Monument, too.  A fun time but a tour, not a fast
 ride.

My first time on the Cycletracks in downtown DC, too: they implemented
them after I retired  quit commuting to downtown DC.  I'd ridden on
those streets before, of course, but it was rather strange riding in the
left-most lane on Pennsylvania Ave.  Of course, there was almost no
traffic, either bicycle or motor vehicle.

Joan neglected to mention another of the highlights of the ride: two
chain breaks (same rider, same chain, broke twice) with accompanying
roadside repairs.  Joan had a multi-tool with a decent chain tool
attachment that saved the day.







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[RBW] Re: Riding in San Diego

2013-01-02 Thread pb

Greg,
 
You'll have a bike with you?  Where will you be staying?  WIll you have a 
car, will you want to use it, or do you want to ride out the door?  What 
style of ride(s)?
 
Peter
sd

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:53:15 PM UTC-8, Greg J wrote:

 It looks like I'll be in San Diego for a week, and I am hoping to get in a 
 few 2-3 hour rides.  Can someone suggest some routes? Feel free to contact 
 me offlist.

 thanks, Greg 


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Re: [RBW] Re: One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)

On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 14:57 -0800, William wrote:
 Is that photo-documentation of Steve Palinscar smiling?  

No, it's me, not my evil twin PalinSCar.  He never smiles.


 Or is his balaclava just smooshing the sides of his face upwards?  

The balaclava I'm wearing is so old and worn from use it's no longer is
capable of smooshing anything.  It's taken years to get it this
comfortable.  

I got a new one a couple of years ago, but it's so tight I can't wear my
sunglasses when I have it on, so it stays unworn in the bike box.  


 I had Steve pegged as one of those 19th century souls who prefers not
 to smile for the camera.  

Actually, those 19th century souls were holding still for very long
exposures (20 seconds to 5 minutes).  The neck braces that held their
heads still were artfully concealed in the photos.  Those collodion wet
plates had an ISO speed of 6 - 10, and Daguerreotype was even slower.

  


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[RBW] FS: Park Frame and Fork-end alignment tools

2013-01-02 Thread Marty

Nice old-style set, with heavy-duty real-steel awesomeness. I've had them 
for years and never used them, and right now they're hanging right next to 
my Campagnolo pedal dust-cap/lock-nut tool that has seen almost as much use 
over the years. Shop wear as seen in the photo below from a dozen moves 
over those same years. I'm sure I'll need them as soon as they're gone, and 
regret selling them for many more years, but take 'em off my hands for 
$55.00 shipped and I'm a happy camper this year. 

*http://tinyurl.com/bkvj4om*
*
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How to use 'em here:
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*http://tinyurl.com/bkpfksc*
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Marty

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[RBW] Re: FS: Park Frame and Fork-end alignment tools

2013-01-02 Thread Marty

Already sold! Wow! Thanks for playing.

Marty

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:22:49 PM UTC-6, Marty wrote:

 Nice old-style set, with heavy-duty real-steel awesomeness. I've had them 
 for years and never used them, and right now they're hanging right next to 
 my Campagnolo pedal dust-cap/lock-nut tool that has seen almost as much use 
 over the years. Shop wear as seen in the photo below from a dozen moves 
 over those same years. I'm sure I'll need them as soon as they're gone, and 
 regret selling them for many more years, but take 'em off my hands for 
 $55.00 shipped and I'm a happy camper this year. 

 *http://tinyurl.com/bkvj4om*
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[RBW] WTT Moustache Bars for Albatross or Boscos

2013-01-02 Thread Frank Brose

Title sums it up. Would prefer the wider Albas. M bars are in great
shape. Clamp is 26.

Thanks,

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Re: [RBW] Re: One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)

Hey!  Can we use that as a slow-riding adjective?  As in:

I did the SFR Two-Rock 200k last weekend.  It was a lovely day.  I rode it 
slowly, not Daguerreotype-slow, but pretty slow nonetheless


On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:14:36 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 14:57 -0800, William wrote: 
  Is that photo-documentation of Steve Palinscar smiling?   

 No, it's me, not my evil twin PalinSCar.  He never smiles. 


  Or is his balaclava just smooshing the sides of his face upwards?   

 The balaclava I'm wearing is so old and worn from use it's no longer is 
 capable of smooshing anything.  It's taken years to get it this 
 comfortable.   

 I got a new one a couple of years ago, but it's so tight I can't wear my 
 sunglasses when I have it on, so it stays unworn in the bike box.   


  I had Steve pegged as one of those 19th century souls who prefers not 
  to smile for the camera.   

 Actually, those 19th century souls were holding still for very long 
 exposures (20 seconds to 5 minutes).  The neck braces that held their 
 heads still were artfully concealed in the photos.  Those collodion wet 
 plates had an ISO speed of 6 - 10, and Daguerreotype was even slower. 

   




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[RBW] Re: Slow Riding



 Now that I am letting go of the concern for fast speeds, I am having fun 
 working on track stands at traffic signals and stop signs where I have to 
 stop (trashes anyone's average speed on cyclometer).
  

I still can't stop totally and balance, but I sorta do this thing where I 
do a very slow 1/8th rotation of the pedal to keep me slowly moving forward 
to stay upright.
Hopefully one day I'll be able to just balance motionless.

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Re: [RBW] One More New Year's Day celebration ride (slow)

I'll call them Kodachrome 25 rides... Incredibly beautiful but slow...

René

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013, William wrote:

 Hey!  Can we use that as a slow-riding adjective?  As in:

 I did the SFR Two-Rock 200k last weekend.  It was a lovely day.  I rode
 it slowly, not Daguerreotype-slow, but pretty slow nonetheless


 On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 3:14:36 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 14:57 -0800, William wrote:
  Is that photo-documentation of Steve Palinscar smiling?

 No, it's me, not my evil twin PalinSCar.  He never smiles.


  Or is his balaclava just smooshing the sides of his face upwards?

 The balaclava I'm wearing is so old and worn from use it's no longer is
 capable of smooshing anything.  It's taken years to get it this
 comfortable.

 I got a new one a couple of years ago, but it's so tight I can't wear my
 sunglasses when I have it on, so it stays unworn in the bike box.


  I had Steve pegged as one of those 19th century souls who prefers not
  to smile for the camera.

 Actually, those 19th century souls were holding still for very long
 exposures (20 seconds to 5 minutes).  The neck braces that held their
 heads still were artfully concealed in the photos.  Those collodion wet
 plates had an ISO speed of 6 - 10, and Daguerreotype was even slower.




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[RBW] ISO pannier capable back rack

2013-01-02 Thread Dave

Hey folks, anyone have a back rack they're looking to sell?  I've been looking 
at the nitto r-15, but am open to suggestions.   Going on a bleriot

Thanks for any leads!
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Re: [RBW] ISO pannier capable back rack

Dave,

I have a brand new never used, never unpackaged Tubus Cargo silver rear
rack. I'm asking $100 + shipping. It's the 700c version.

René

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 looking at the nitto r-15, but am open to suggestions.   Going on a
 bleriot

 Thanks for any leads!
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[RBW] WTB: Cockpit parts: Alu Albatross, Silver levers, 110 stem

2013-01-02 Thread justinaugust

Hey folks
Changing up the cockpit. Wondering if anyone has the aforementioned parts:
aluminum Albatross bars
Silver levers (not the VO city levers, want something more substantial)
110 quill stem!

Contact off list!
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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread charlie

A beefier version of a Hilsen (to better handle my weight) with internal 
wiring braze ons for a generator light system.

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:52:55 AM UTC-8, William wrote:

 One potential custom idea that I think would be cool would be a proper 
 touring bike with really long chainstays.  I'm thinking an Atlantis front 
 end with maybe 50-52cm chainstays.  Virtually everybody who's tried to fit 
 a pannier knows that the downside to too-short chainstays on a touring bike 
 is that your feet hit the panniers and you may have insufficient clearance 
 for the tires you want to run.  What's the downside to too-long chainstays 
 on a touring bike?  I cannot think of one.  Before riding the Appaloosa I 
 would have speculated that maybe it would be too flexy or maybe the 
 handling would be too weird.  Now that I have ridden the Appaloosa, I know 
 first-hand that both of those fears are 100% misplaced.  

 The longest chainstays I know of on traditional touring bikes are in the 
 47-48cm range, but I'm not an expert on the topic.  Another full inch or 
 two of heel room might be perfect for everything touring-related EXCEPT 
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[RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Doug Magney

A beefy Hilsen - love it!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread James Warren

Would another name for that be Sidepull Bombadil?

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[RBW] Re: New Year's Day in the Napa Valley 2013

2013-01-02 Thread dougP

I love the California green; it doesn't take much rain to make the place 
look wonderful.  I've taken people thru that area who've toured in Europe  
been impressed with how scenic the area is.  Dry Creek Rd is a whole lot 
nicer than Provence was one comment.  

dougP

On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 5:12:25 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 My Riv Road and I spent part of the day in the Napa Valley. Here are a few 
 photos:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632404827465/show/ 

 I could have spent a lot more time stopping to take waaay more photos. 
 It's such a scenic place.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Suggestions for the Jan 3 winner

2013-01-02 Thread Peter Morgano

I thought it would the the level TT Sam Hillborne

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[RBW] FS: Gary Fisher Triton 57cm Single Speed

2013-01-02 Thread Christopher Murray

Howdy!

Bought this bike when I was thinking about getting a SimpleOne. Long story 
short- wife surprised me with the last SO frame and now this has to go to 
make some room and so I can buy some wheels. The bike has less than 100 
sunny Tucson miles on it and is in like new condition. Currently set up as 
a single speed but flip flop rear hub make change to fixie simple (if that 
is your thing). Computer and water bottle cages included. Cages are 
Bontrager and look like the King Iris. Computer is a basic wired model. 
Great winter bike, training, or cruising. No Pedals. Bike is stock except I 
replaced the white bar tape with black. $350 shipped CONUS. 

Details and specs:
http://www.bikepedia.com/Quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?Year=2009Brand=Gary+FisherModel=TritonType=bike#.UOJbG-SUai0

I know this isnt a Riv but it led to my new Riv and the sale will fund Riv 
parts- does that count? close enough? 

Cheers!
Chris

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[RBW] Only ourselves to blame?

For no more 5 speed or 6 speed freewheels in production?
 
Been reading Rivreaders and less gears on the back wheel sounds great. But 
I have seen the readers talking about the dwindling availabilty of these.
 
I am guessing that as racers needed more narrow jumps, it has grown to 
11-speed cassettes.
I guess that as the bike companies are pushing racing gear for regular 
cyclists at shops, un-racers riders are taking the bait so all the demand 
is for the latest racing tech stuff, causing the demise of the 5/6/7 speed 
freewheels/cassettes?

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[RBW] Re: Slow Riding

2013-01-02 Thread IanA

Yep - and it's not the lack of speed that slows you down so much as the 
chats at controls!  It makes me think of golf and trying to get the longest 
drive, but scoring better if the drivers are left at home.

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:59:09 AM UTC-7, William wrote:

 I feel you.  I still have the memories of my youth when I took it personal 
 every time somebody passed me or dropped me, and when I'd feel a little 
 alpha dog surge whenever I passed someone else.  I've let that all go for 
 the most part.  

 During brevets I am a little bit conflicted.  I'm under some pressure to 
 put in a good time, to minimize riding time after dark.  My wife and kids 
 worry quite a bit.  So I sometimes try to hang with the faster riders, 
 staying on a wheel to speed me along.  But when I get dropped I always find 
 plenty of pleasure in enjoying the countryside, and I like my own company 
 just fine, so pacelining holds only the appeal of finishing faster, which 
 is a very limited appeal.  

 Some of the truly legendary Randonneurs and Randonneuses are among the 
 slow riders.  It's a huge treat riding with them to hear their stories, 
 riding at a pace that encourages conversation.  It's all fun, and it's all 
 cycling.  

 On Monday, December 31, 2012 1:35:20 PM UTC-8, Tim Tetrault wrote:

 Perhaps because I didn't cut my teeth on a high performance road bike and 
 I've always been more of a commuter/errand runner, I've noticed riding with 
 other cyclist friends (who are in much better fitness than I) I am always 
 falling off the back-

 yet I don't really mind. Since getting my Hilborne, I'm content to chug 
 along in my plain clothes at 13-15 mph, stop at the library, ride to work 
 etc... I feel no motivation or ambition to perform on a bike. Maybe it 
 would be different if I lived in a warmer climate and purchased a Tarmac?

 Anybody else feel me on this? 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?



 I coulda gone even higher, but the original owner bought the bike at 
 somewhere other than Riv, I am guessing, because of the low height of the 
 steerer. Doesn't have the 2 finger stack of spacers like I have seen on the 
 Riv-built bikes in pics.
  

Also, lost a cm of height on my new Technomic stem since they have raised 
the MAX height line 1 cm higher on their Technomic stems now.

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Re: [RBW] Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?