date:20130424

And there ya' go... that looks like a winner for the heavy duty crowd.

Cheers,
David

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Ken Yokanovich
reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote:

Looks like you can get the noBS version for about half the price.
http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/nobs-700c

Looks like the premium price on the Atlas is for the finish work.

On Friday, April 19, 2013 10:24:20 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

They sure look nice, but the $107 price tag (to me) is way over the
top... There are many great alternatives for MUCH less $...
What's so special about these rims to justify a price over $100 ???

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:54:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote:

Grant mentioned the new beefy touring Atlas rim again, to be made by
Velocity right here in the USA. This time I detected a tone like it was
already a reality.
Checked the Velocity website and it is now listed in 26, 650B and 700C.

http://velocity-dev.com/**index.php/product/rims/atlas-**584http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/atlas-584
Wide at 25.4 and beefy at 590 gms for the 650B size.
should be a great rim for big knobbies and heavy duty touring.

~mike

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-24 Thread Brent

 Cecily - the fact was since I had the Bleriot ( I had just built it up ) I 
was not even thinking of another Rivendell at the time but it has become a 
habit of checking Craigslist for the possibility of finding something 
worthwhile in a vintage touring or road bike, but when I saw the Romulus 
and had some extra money just could not pass it up given it was my size. 
There are enough people looking for something to flip that you almost have 
to be looking all the time to find a good deal. I really did not think I 
had a chance but the owner was moving so that might have helped. Hope you 
find something - I would even go to Seattle if  the right bike was for 
sale. If I was not semi retired it would be almost impossible to have the 
time to do it as well.

On Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:31:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:


I just picked up a 59 cm Romulus, alittle worse for wear but still in 
 good condition with some Honjo hammered fenders, Nitto front rack, Nitto 
 crystal seat post and Shimano side pull brakes - the headset is Shimano 
 105. All for 400.00. It seems like a decent price especially since I doubt 
 I will come across anything Rivendell locally here in Vancouver, B.C. The 
 owner also threw in some leather handlebar tape. Anyway, I guess I will be 
 looking for some parts to build it up. This makes it my second Rivendell 
 along with a Bleriot I purchased early this year.



   Brent Avery

Vancouver, B.C.


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[RBW] Re: New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-24 Thread Brent

 That is the great advantage to owing something like a Rivendell - you can 
enjoy looking at it almost as much as riding it. The seat lug in particular 
has a very vintage design to it. Isn't it great to find a Rivendell locally 
and just when you thought it could never happen? 

On Monday, April 15, 2013 8:56:35 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple 
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I 
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines. 
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a 
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a 97 
 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect 
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:



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[RBW] Re: Craigslist mistake delivers a new Bleriot.

2013-04-24 Thread Brent

  Always great to see some of the out of production models - I have a 59 cm 
so I suppose that makes me partial to Bleriots. I am still trying to find 
out how many were actually produced, perhaps 1200 or so in the two odd 
years they were made? I also imagine not too many were in your size.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:28:17 PM UTC-7, Phillip Hathaway wrote:

 One of the joys of lurking on this list is coming across local Riv owners 
 with bikes for sale. Last weekend I was trying to find the 64cm Atlantis 
 that recently sold in Superior and came across this 61cm Bleriot by 
 accident. I drove to Centennial and bought it on the spot! It was love at 
 first sight. I had a chance to ride it about 30 miles this past weekend 
 before our latest spring snow storm rolled in. I couldn't be happier! Well 
 maybe a little since Mike the seller refused to part with the Nigel Smythe 
 small trunksack in the picture. He also still has listed a very low mileage 
 60cm Quickbeam and doesn't seem to be getting much response locally. Here 
 is the link. http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/3716454142.html  . He takes 
 very good care of his bikes.

 Sadly, financing the sale is forcing the sale of my Nordavinden project 
 bike and build parts which I will list in a separate post. For the moment 
 I'm just thankful for this list and wanting to share.


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[RBW] Re: A new power option for touring and commuting. I really like this.

2013-04-24 Thread Jay Lonner

Cool idea, I just backed it. Thanks for the link.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:32:42 PM UTC-7, clayton wrote:

 Check this out. What does everyone think? I see lots of advantages over a 
 generator hub. It can be removed easily when not needed. All the 
 electronics are already dialed, no need for extra stuff. Light, simple and 
 hidden under your pannier

 http://www.gizmag.com/siva-cycle-atom-phone-charger/27224/

 Clayton 


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Romulus

2013-04-24 Thread Evan

Wow! Beautiful bike. And I don't even want to think about what a bargain 
you got. Congratulations!




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Re: [RBW] Re: speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

2013-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 23:27 -0700, Ken Yokanovich wrote:
 Looks like you can get the noBS version for about half the price.
 http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/nobs-700c

The NoBS rim seems to be 700C only.

Back a year ago when Velocity was replacing a cracked Synergy OC 650B
rim for me, they said a heavy duty rim was forthcoming.  This appears to
be it.  

 
 
 Looks like the premium price on the Atlas is for the finish work.
 
 On Friday, April 19, 2013 10:24:20 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
 They sure look nice, but the $107 price tag (to me) is way
 over the top...  There are many great alternatives for MUCH
 less $...
 What's so special about these rims to justify a price over
 $100 ??? 
 
 
 BB
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:54:58 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller
 wrote:
 Grant mentioned the new beefy touring Atlas rim again,
 to be made by Velocity right here in the USA. This
 time I detected a tone like it was already a reality.
 Checked the Velocity website and it is now listed in
 26, 650B and 700C.
   http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/atlas-584
 Wide at 25.4 and beefy at 590 gms for the 650B size.
   
 should be a great rim for big knobbies and heavy duty
 touring.
 

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

2013-04-24 Thread Leslie

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:14:00 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 23:27 -0700, Ken Yokanovich wrote: 
  Looks like you can get the noBS version for about half the price. 
  http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/nobs-700c 

 The NoBS rim seems to be 700C only. 

 Back a year ago when Velocity was replacing a cracked Synergy OC 650B 
 rim for me, they said a heavy duty rim was forthcoming.  This appears to 
 be it.   



Looks like the NoBS is also available as a 26, too.But not in 650b.
It says mill finish;  is the Atlas just a polished version of this rim?


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Re: [RBW] Spring Commutes

2013-04-24 Thread René Sterental

They're both looking great!

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013, Brian Hanson wrote:

 I've been riding the past few days in the nice sunny Seattle spring on my
 Hunqa and Homer with some new combos.  Here are some pics of the current
 iteration of the Hunqapillar with Midge bars and Resist Nomad tires.  I
 like the Midges so far, and the best thing is they allow room for the large
 Wald basket and large Shopsack combo that I was missing when I had the 42cm
 Noodles on it.  The tires are, as mentioned, a nice large volume tire that
 rolls well.  I took it down my favorite park dirt trail to test grip, and
 they grip about as well as Jack Browns - i.e. if you need reliable
 traction, look for more knobs.

 pics: http://flic.kr/p/edH52P

 On the Homer I put the GB Cypres tires back on.  Sublime...

 Brian
 Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

2013-04-24 Thread Matthew J

 Looks like you can get the noBS version
 
Just the wheel for your noBS Tig welded flat paint Riv.

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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread Matthew J

 This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money 
sucking car.
 
Car Free going on 9 years now.  Certainly healthier, couldn't be happier.
 
Ivory is a nice color on a lugged bike.  Course your will have to part with 
your ride for a while.

 

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Re: [RBW] Spring Commutes

2013-04-24 Thread WETH

Beautiful bikes; I really like the bar tape on the Hunqa.  The weather looks 
fabulous, too.  Thanks for sharing.

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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Paint it yourself!

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[RBW] Re: Spring Commutes

2013-04-24 Thread Edwin W



 What is the front rack under the basket?


Edwin 

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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread shawn

Paint it, it is a Rivendell Atlantis...

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 3:31:50 PM UTC-4, clayton wrote:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-efZlLQqhjok/UXbcQGpczaI/AAs/Tcrh6V91Frs/s1600/IMG_0219.JPGhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HQDeJayE4VA/UXbb-lQExgI/AAk/56HjmKs0MP8/s1600/IMG_0222.JPG
This is my Atlantis I bought new in '98 or so. I recently rebuilt it with
Deore XT 10 speed (9 speed rear derailleur to work with 10 speed bar end
shifters), Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Nitto M-12 front, Nitto H20 cages, Salsa
Woodchippers (my favorite bar yet, even though it took some dirt drop stem
modification to get the sharp curves through the stem), XT V-brakes with
Cane creek V-brake compatible brake levers and platform pedals that
Rivendell sells. Also honey B-17 and a White Brothers suspension seat post
(the best I have found yet, and I tried a BUNCH. Too bad they don't make
them anymore). Fenders are Planet Bikes which are polycarbonate and seem to
last much longer than the ESGs(?). The frame bag I made myself and is made
from heavy green canvas.

I had it built before with a proper Rivendell build, which was great for
the past 12 years or so. Thought I would try something new. I love the new
24-36 low gear for my bad knees and steep trails are easy now. Not too sure
about platforms yet. They are great everywhere but on long rides and off
road. I feel so naked on them, like I could get bucked off at the slightest
bump. Not being able to bunny hop is weird too.

This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money
sucking car. This sucks up my money insteadlol.

Now I ask the groups wisdom. Do I paint the head tube ivory? Now it is
solid powder coat gloss olive and looks utilitarian and off roady. I think
it needs to be classed up a bit.

I have had three back surgeries and three carpal tunnel surgeries, hence
the HIGH bars.

Thanks for looking and thanks for your head tube advice in advance...
Clayton

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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread john

Is there a way to test the wheel? Test the hub? A set of criteria a 
mechanic can focus on which would say: yes, this hub - or wheel - isn't 
quite right?

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:57:12 PM UTC-7, Reid wrote:

 I once replaced a front wheel with a similar professionally built wheel 
 on a road bike with 27 wheels. Suddenly the bike shimmied. After much 
 aggravation, I found that the newly built wheel had settled in, meaning 
 it had become the tiniest bit flexy. Another wheel builder tightened it 
 up to spec and all was well.
  
 Reid
  


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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread john

@Cyclofiend:

Thanks for the suggestions. I am in fact light (150#), rather tall, @5,11 
on a largish frame (60cm Sam), which has a tall head tube. I will try 
testing with concentration on COG and posture changes.

@Will:

Thank for that bit rom Jan H. I know that running fat tires on my Surly Big 
Dummy had the immediate effect of causing pronounced shimmy. I can't help 
but think that fat tires on a flexy frame, ridden by a light rider is the 
culprit. Nothing else changed in the equation! Just heavy, fat tires.

It's interesting that now, I'm on skinnier, lighter tires (albeit with a 
heavier wheel).

On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:46:47 PM UTC-7, john wrote:

 Hello All. 

 I thought I'd get some ideas on a recent shimmy development. Here is the 
 scenario:

 Rider specs:
 John
 Height: 5'11
 Weight: 150 soaking wet
 PBH: 88.9
 SH: apprx 78.5 cm

 I ride a 60 cm. Sam HIll. 

 I Never experienced shimmy with the stock build:  Shimano deore front and 
 rear hubs, Velocity synergy wheels, (35 cm panaracer pasella tires), noodle 
 handlebars, SKS Longboard fenders, etc.
 I ride with a nitto mini front rack,  nitro rear rack (the one for 
 saddlebag support, not panniers). I ride with a Baggins Adam saddlebag. 
 No front bag as yet because I haven't found one to fit the distance between 
 the front rack and handlebars (I'm not particularly interested in buying a 
 nitro F-15 rack, but instead covet a Berthoud rando bag - yet I don't know 
 if the 28cm size  will fill the gap. )

 Nothing unusual for a Rivendell.

 Now, for the recent developments:
 Swapped the old wheel (Velocity Synergy) for a newly built Velocity 
 Synergy with dynohub (Shimano Alfine). Have a lightweight BM Cyo light 
 attatched to the right (rider's right while riding) of the rack. Switched 
 from 35cm Panaracers to 33.3 Jack Brown Greens. Got the JBs to fit under 
 Hono  because I had issues with the Longboards on two different sets: 
 (rubbing, chattering, due to inherent fleibility) . I also shortened the 
 stem just a hair, to see if doing so would help alleviate some forearm 
 discomfort I'd been having. (The old setup was stem height equidistant to 
 saddle height.)  Now the stem height is slightly below saddle height. 
 That's it.


 Now: experiencing some shimmy (and less overall feeling of stability) 
 while riding no hands sitting upright. This does not occur all the time, 
 but it's noticeable. The response doesn't happen all the time, but still, 
 it's there, and unnerving when it does. 

 This response almost never happened with my old, original setup. 
 Frustrating! Because I much prefer dyno lighting for any number of reasons, 
 and wanted to run narrower tires to better fit underneath Honjo fenders, 
 which I much prefer to Longboards. My upgrades were plenty expensive, 
 too! And a pain in the neck, and time away from the bike. Still, I want 
 what I want: the best Riv ride possible. Is there an inherent compromise 
 here? Am I missing something? And if it is the new developments, where is 
 the problem? Stem height? Wheel weight? Tire width?

 Any comments? Clues? Suggestions? I'll continue to ride and see how it 
 goes, but honestly, as much as I like the changes I've made (except for the 
 need to run thinner tires with is not optimal for me), I'd go back to the 
 original set up if it meant the end to shimmy. I do not like to shimmy! 

 Yes, obviously I will start with the easy stuff first. As in, I'll raise 
 the stem and see what happens (or doesn't). After that, I'm frustrated. 
 Very frustrated.

 Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

 John


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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread Bryan

I wouldn't bother with painting the head tube, but I do think it looks a 
bit naked without a head badge or something up there. Even a sticker off a 
piece of fruit would work. I had a sticker from a package of strawberries 
on the head tube of my old bike for years, and it was awesome. Or you could 
write something like This is my car!

Bryan  

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RE: [RBW] Bombadil experiment

2013-04-24 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J

Definitely did.  I can barely fit 2.15s on my first gen Bomba.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Bombadil experiment

I am fairly sure the clearance increased with the second generation of 
Bombadils.

On Monday, April 22, 2013 9:33:03 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2013 7:42:59 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:

I have to admit, I'm now starting to wonder, just how big of a tire would 
fit I think Rock-n-Roads would easily enough (might have to remove the 
fenders though). But beyond that I'm now wondering if any 29er tires would 
go

I happen to have a set of 29er wheels for rim brakes sitting in the garage. 
I'll mount them up and see how they fit. Mine's a prototype so yours might have 
more clearance.
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[RBW] wtb: Riv Rambouillet 58cm frameset (any color other than orange!)

2013-04-24 Thread Steve

Hi Eric,
I have a blue 58 cm Ram which has been living alongside its AHH replacement 
for three years now. I've been enjoying it as my fair-weather road bike, but as 
my significant other keeps reminding me, it is a little redundant, not to say 
extravagant to keep both. So... I could be talked out of it.
Steve

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[RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I've rarely/never experienced a definite shimmy, but the closest I've come 
to it seems to have been on a Pugsley with 26x3.8 Black Floyd tires (think 
fatter Fat Franks). The huge contact patch of this tire serves as a large 
lever against the road surface. The effect is that when turning, the 
leverage against the road makes tire want to turn even more, and it take 
some effort to pull out of a turn. At speed, especially no-handed, the 
minor steering corrections got amplified, while the steering geometry wants 
to keep the bike stable and moving in a straight line. It's not terribly 
scary, but it's easy to reproduce and observe. I think, but can't prove, 
that this interplay between contact patch leverage and steering geometry is 
one potential reason why fatter tires tend to shimmy more. On the other 
hand, I've come to be acquainted with a lot of 1980s Treks with skinny 
tires that seem to have a shimmy (according to their owners).

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:45:02 AM UTC-5, john wrote:

 @Cyclofiend:

 Thanks for the suggestions. I am in fact light (150#), rather tall, @5,11 
 on a largish frame (60cm Sam), which has a tall head tube. I will try 
 testing with concentration on COG and posture changes.

 @Will:

 Thank for that bit rom Jan H. I know that running fat tires on my Surly 
 Big Dummy had the immediate effect of causing pronounced shimmy. I can't 
 help but think that fat tires on a flexy frame, ridden by a light rider is 
 the culprit. Nothing else changed in the equation! Just heavy, fat tires.

 It's interesting that now, I'm on skinnier, lighter tires (albeit with a 
 heavier wheel).

 On Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:46:47 PM UTC-7, john wrote:

 Hello All. 

 I thought I'd get some ideas on a recent shimmy development. Here is the 
 scenario:

 Rider specs:
 John
 Height: 5'11
 Weight: 150 soaking wet
 PBH: 88.9
 SH: apprx 78.5 cm

 I ride a 60 cm. Sam HIll. 

 I Never experienced shimmy with the stock build:  Shimano deore front and 
 rear hubs, Velocity synergy wheels, (35 cm panaracer pasella tires), noodle 
 handlebars, SKS Longboard fenders, etc.
 I ride with a nitto mini front rack,  nitro rear rack (the one for 
 saddlebag support, not panniers). I ride with a Baggins Adam saddlebag. 
 No front bag as yet because I haven't found one to fit the distance between 
 the front rack and handlebars (I'm not particularly interested in buying a 
 nitro F-15 rack, but instead covet a Berthoud rando bag - yet I don't know 
 if the 28cm size  will fill the gap. )

 Nothing unusual for a Rivendell.

 Now, for the recent developments:
 Swapped the old wheel (Velocity Synergy) for a newly built Velocity 
 Synergy with dynohub (Shimano Alfine). Have a lightweight BM Cyo light 
 attatched to the right (rider's right while riding) of the rack. Switched 
 from 35cm Panaracers to 33.3 Jack Brown Greens. Got the JBs to fit under 
 Hono  because I had issues with the Longboards on two different sets: 
 (rubbing, chattering, due to inherent fleibility) . I also shortened the 
 stem just a hair, to see if doing so would help alleviate some forearm 
 discomfort I'd been having. (The old setup was stem height equidistant to 
 saddle height.)  Now the stem height is slightly below saddle height. 
 That's it.


 Now: experiencing some shimmy (and less overall feeling of stability) 
 while riding no hands sitting upright. This does not occur all the time, 
 but it's noticeable. The response doesn't happen all the time, but still, 
 it's there, and unnerving when it does. 

 This response almost never happened with my old, original setup. 
 Frustrating! Because I much prefer dyno lighting for any number of reasons, 
 and wanted to run narrower tires to better fit underneath Honjo fenders, 
 which I much prefer to Longboards. My upgrades were plenty expensive, 
 too! And a pain in the neck, and time away from the bike. Still, I want 
 what I want: the best Riv ride possible. Is there an inherent compromise 
 here? Am I missing something? And if it is the new developments, where is 
 the problem? Stem height? Wheel weight? Tire width?

 Any comments? Clues? Suggestions? I'll continue to ride and see how it 
 goes, but honestly, as much as I like the changes I've made (except for the 
 need to run thinner tires with is not optimal for me), I'd go back to the 
 original set up if it meant the end to shimmy. I do not like to shimmy! 

 Yes, obviously I will start with the easy stuff first. As in, I'll raise 
 the stem and see what happens (or doesn't). After that, I'm frustrated. 
 Very frustrated.

 Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

 John



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[RBW] Re: 58 QB frame on CL (near-ish Seattle)

2013-04-24 Thread Robert Kirkpatrick

Hey so I ended up getting this frame. Thought ya'll might want to see what I 
ended up doing with it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/sets/72157633309416243/

and I wrote a bit about the process here:
http://www.spiralcage.com/rootless/?p=3184

I was trawling CraigsList daily at the time, but certainly the posts here were 
part of the whole decision making process.  

cheers,
Robert

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[RBW] FS: 1984 Trek 620

1984 Trek 620

Classic Trek Frame, Reynolds 531, in good condition. Never crashed, some
paint chips and some oxidation at cable guides.

ST, 61 C-T; TT, 58 C-C; CS 45.5;

This bike was originally sold as a touring frame with 27”whees and I can
ship a set of 27”wheels if buyer prefers, but the cantis will align with
700c. Today this would be called a sport-touring bike. The dimensions,
tire capacity, and handling are remarkably similar to my Rambouillet. It
might be a bit lighter quicker, both on handling and acceleration, but
that may be my imagination. Anyway it is very versatile, will handle 32mm
tires fenders, and is fun to ride. I have replaced it with a Saluki,
which is a better alternative to my Ram.

Bike $900; Frame Set with new Cane Creek HS and Tange BB $500

Components:

Nitto stem 12cm, Noodle bars 46cm, Nitto seat post al in excellent
condition.

Brakes - Original Di Comp Cantis and new Tektro Levers

Crank - Sugino triple (48/34/26) 175 mm with new rings.

Wheels - Arraya/105. These were the wheels supplied with my Ram.

Cassette - Ultegra 9 spd, 12-27

RD - Ultegra; FD - 105; Bar End Silver Shifters.

Tires 32 mm Tserv in good condition.

Pictures at:

https://plus.google.com/photos/110692344592863063357/albums/5854943142571386961/5854943370814286722?gpinv=AMIXal9e0mleDCNGoyXUV5CI1T60WYdBA8lzWsKsOiVDePoqvNWnu_FoWtJkaoqNd0YbTNq1mHDYMEMOI2-CykLtchc5-aX-aEhXY_rnPCZqu47N6jQwqnscfem=1authkey=CM3pooC459W75wE

Please respond off list

Michael

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[RBW] Tags?

Twice now I have tried to use the list transactions-sell-buy-trade tag 
and twice it has rejected it as non listed.  I've simply been clicking on 
it at the bottom of the page.   ??
Michael

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[RBW] Re: Tags?

2013-04-24 Thread Cyclofiend Jim

Yeah... that's how it _should_ work.  You are not the first person who has 
reported that. Don't know quite what the breakdown is.

I'll poke at it with a blunt stick and see what happens.  Thanks for trying 
to use that!

- Jim / list admin

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:47:36 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Twice now I have tried to use the list transactions-sell-buy-trade tag 
 and twice it has rejected it as non listed.  I've simply been clicking on 
 it at the bottom of the page.   ??
 Michael


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[RBW] Re: 58 QB frame on CL (near-ish Seattle)

2013-04-24 Thread David Spranger

Very nice! and good karma to take an abused Riv and give it new life.

David

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:34:47 PM UTC-4, SpiralCage wrote:

 Hey so I ended up getting this frame. Thought ya'll might want to see what 
 I ended up doing with it: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/sets/72157633309416243/ 

 and I wrote a bit about the process here: 
 http://www.spiralcage.com/rootless/?p=3184 

 I was trawling CraigsList daily at the time, but certainly the posts here 
 were part of the whole decision making process.   

 cheers, 
 Robert

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[RBW] Re: 58 QB frame on CL (near-ish Seattle)

2013-04-24 Thread Bryan

Great job, Robert! The Quickbeam is an oddly addictive bicycle. What 
gear(s) are you running? 

Bryan 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Tim McNamara

Check the spoke tension, trueness and roundness.  You can check relative 
tension by plucking the spokes like a harp.  In a front wheel all the spokes 
should ring out at the same pitch and should not be a dull thud- it should be a 
fairly bright note.  Tension can be checked with a tensiometer, as well, but an 
experienced wheelbuilder could check without very quickly.  Put the wheel in a 
truing stand or in the fork and sight along the brake pads as a guide to 
trueness and roundness as you spin it slowly.

Tim



On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:38 AM, john wrote:
 
 Is there a way to test the wheel? Test the hub? A set of criteria a mechanic 
 can focus on which would say: yes, this hub - or wheel - isn't quite right?
 
 On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:57:12 PM UTC-7, Reid wrote:
 I once replaced a front wheel with a similar professionally built wheel on 
 a road bike with 27 wheels. Suddenly the bike shimmied. After much 
 aggravation, I found that the newly built wheel had settled in, meaning it 
 had become the tiniest bit flexy. Another wheel builder tightened it up to 
 spec and all was well.
  
 Reid
  



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[RBW] Re: 58 QB frame on CL (near-ish Seattle)

2013-04-24 Thread WETH

Wow, that is a beautiful restoration! I really like the green saddle/bar tape 
with the orange frame. 
 It appears the powder coating did not obscure the lug details any more than a 
paint job would have.  Is that accurate when looking at the bike in person?  I 
ask because I am considering powder coating a lugged frame.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Tim McNamara

OK, the first shimmy anecdote of which I have two from personal experience.  I 
used to own a Gunnar Crosshairs, which after I stopped racing was set up as a 
randonneuse.  I rode that bike in the Alps and on PBP.  I tried mounting my 
Nitto mini front rack on it one day, since it had rack braze-ons on the 
upgraded Waterford fork.  The bike immediately developed a disconcerting shimmy 
while pedaling and coasting even with no load at all on the rack; removing the 
rack made the shimmy go away; putting the rack back on returned the shimmy and 
loading the rack with a couple of pounds made the shimmy much worse.  This was 
with 700 x 28 tires.  I decided this bike was a rear loader and used a 
saddlebag instead.

The second shimmy anecdote was back in my racing days.  I had a Bianchi Reparto 
Corsa which had the typical short chainstays and long top tube, which meant the 
bike popped wheelies on steep hills while climbing in the saddle.  It also 
meant the bike felt like it was plowing through corners.  I had two of those 
bikes and they were just not good-handling bikes; my Ritchey Road and my 
All-Rounder are much better handling bikes (and so was the Gunnar, which I used 
for road races and crits in between the Bianchis and the Ritchey).  

Anyway, that Bianchi scared the hell out of me when I was descending the High 
Bridge in St. Paul in a full aero tuck with my butt hanging way off the back of 
the saddle (there was a little trend for this started by Marco Pantani when he 
was descending that way and everyone thought if a pro is doing it, it must be 
the way to descend).  The shimmy felt different and I determined later that it 
was probably the 9 speed rear wheel shimmying- I had so much weight over it (I 
am 6'4 and was a skinny 200 lbs in my racing days) that I reduced the spoke 
tension to much too low in the load affected area between the contact patch and 
the hub, destabilizing the wheel.  When I got my weight forward, the shimmy 
stopped.  A 9 speed wheel has so much dish that only the drive side spokes are 
supporting the vertical load- the non-drive side spokes are nearly slack.  So, 
only two to four of the 16 spokes on that side were predominantly carrying my 
weight at any given time.

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[RBW] 5/2 Fast Diet?

2013-04-24 Thread doc

Since Paleo seems to be fair game as a topic, I'll ask if anyone else is 
trying the Michael Mosley 5/2 Fast Diet?  I've seen the PBS episodes, both 
on diet and on exercise, and read the diet book.  I find some of the 
science (not that I'm a scientist) to be similar to what Taubes advocates, 
but the methodology is quite different.  In essence, he is using fasting to 
achieve ketosis, rather than an exclusively protien rich diet.

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[RBW] Re: 5/2 Fast Diet?

2013-04-24 Thread Deacon Patrick

I've never read and am not familiar with the 5/2 Fast Diet. I follow the 
Perfect Health Diet, which is 70-80% fat by calories, the balance carbs and 
protein. In general I eat one meal a day, so do a 22-26 hour fast most 
days. My brain does much better when it enters ketosis regularly (much more 
stable brain energy, focus, etc.). Everything I've read cautions against a 
high protein diet. Also, source of fat and fish and meat, dairy, and eggs 
matters greatly -- wild caught or 100% grass fed or wild pastured 
(depending on what beastie it is). Also I'd suggest eating when you are 
hungry rather than following some arbitrary schedule. I have not been 
hungry in any of the fasting I do. My body simply burns fat stores and 
chugs along happily. Some days I have two meals. I've yet to go longer than 
32 hours fasting, and have no plans to try for longer unless it just 
happens. Oh, and I often ride 6-8 hours fasted. Feels great!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:01:38 PM UTC-6, doc wrote:

 Since Paleo seems to be fair game as a topic, I'll ask if anyone else is 
 trying the Michael Mosley 5/2 Fast Diet?  I've seen the PBS episodes, both 
 on diet and on exercise, and read the diet book.  I find some of the 
 science (not that I'm a scientist) to be similar to what Taubes advocates, 
 but the methodology is quite different.  In essence, he is using fasting to 
 achieve ketosis, rather than an exclusively protien rich diet.

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[RBW] Re: 5/2 Fast Diet?

2013-04-24 Thread doc

A lot of what you're saying is consistent with what Mosley has written, and 
his followers testimonials.  He's skittish about diets with too much 
protein, but warns that some protein is needed on fasting days (600 total 
calories for a male), because our bodies only store protein in muscle 
mass.  Typically a fast lasts 32 hours, but can be 24.  Like many of the 
current diet trends, he also advocates getting away from processed foods 
because of hidden calories/chemicals.  I find the fasting to be getting 
easier each time, and definitely easier than trying to limit my choices 
around a house and community filled with carbs; but admittedly, I haven't 
taken any longer rides on a fasting day to see how it might go.
On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:24:55 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 I've never read and am not familiar with the 5/2 Fast Diet. I follow the 
 Perfect Health Diet, which is 70-80% fat by calories, the balance carbs and 
 protein. In general I eat one meal a day, so do a 22-26 hour fast most 
 days. My brain does much better when it enters ketosis regularly (much more 
 stable brain energy, focus, etc.). Everything I've read cautions against a 
 high protein diet. Also, source of fat and fish and meat, dairy, and eggs 
 matters greatly -- wild caught or 100% grass fed or wild pastured 
 (depending on what beastie it is). Also I'd suggest eating when you are 
 hungry rather than following some arbitrary schedule. I have not been 
 hungry in any of the fasting I do. My body simply burns fat stores and 
 chugs along happily. Some days I have two meals. I've yet to go longer than 
 32 hours fasting, and have no plans to try for longer unless it just 
 happens. Oh, and I often ride 6-8 hours fasted. Feels great! 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:01:38 PM UTC-6, doc wrote: 

 Since Paleo seems to be fair game as a topic, I'll ask if anyone else is 
 trying the Michael Mosley 5/2 Fast Diet?  I've seen the PBS episodes, both 
 on diet and on exercise, and read the diet book.  I find some of the 
 science (not that I'm a scientist) to be similar to what Taubes advocates, 
 but the methodology is quite different.  In essence, he is using fasting to 
 achieve ketosis, rather than an exclusively protien rich diet.



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[RBW] OT: Cool old Nitto adjustable stem

2013-04-24 Thread Scot Brooks



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BLORMij3kCU/UXgp4m8IP6I/AI4/5l4XCZdQovo/s1600/Nitto+Adjustable+Stem+1a.jpg
I was messing about on the Ben's Cycle website and came across this oddball 
item for a whopping $399. Looks like they were manufactured up until 1990. 
Must have been for fitting I suppose. If they picture doesn't work, here's 
the link 
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=188_263_1332_1215products_id=6950

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[RBW] Re: 5/2 Fast Diet?

2013-04-24 Thread Deacon Patrick

Sounds reasonable from what I know. Have fun learning how your body works! 
here are a few thins I've learned:

-- Exercising aerobically (I follow Maffetone's definition, defined as 180 
beats per minute minus your age as the upper threshold, or simply so you 
can hold an easy conversation without being out of breath), we burn mostly 
fat, with some carbs used as kindling for the fat burning fire. So we 
need both. Our bodies store far more fat, and only some carbs, so it makes 
sense that we are supposed to be fat burners.

-- Ride food: If I know I'll be out for more than 4 hours, I take 
something. Usually pemmican (high fat, some protein) or equivalent. I have 
not needed carbs since I eat potatoes (white or sweet) or white rice with 
my meal. Untill you are comfortable without carrying carbs, dates are 
packed and can boost your ability to burn fat with their carb kindling.

-- The more your body gets familiar with being fat burning, the more you 
will eat to genuine hunger rather than a glucose crash. It was well over a 
year before I discovered I wasn't hungry for 24 hours. So ease into it.

-- If you start to feel a loss of energy, stop for 5-10 minutes. Don't eat 
anything. Drink some water. Your liver is very efficient at converting (I 
can't remember what) into carbs. You'll take off feeling quite refreshed. 
At least I do.

-- Consider eliminating all grains and veggie oils, and yes, certainly all 
processed foods. We get a lot of use out of our VitaMix blender, as well as 
our dehydrator (for camping food).

Have fun! If you want to talk further (now or down the road), feel free to 
write me off list so we don't clutter the group with stuff others aren't 
interested in.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:37:15 PM UTC-6, doc wrote:

 A lot of what you're saying is consistent with what Mosley has written, 
 and his followers testimonials.  He's skittish about diets with too much 
 protein, but warns that some protein is needed on fasting days (600 total 
 calories for a male), because our bodies only store protein in muscle 
 mass.  Typically a fast lasts 32 hours, but can be 24.  Like many of the 
 current diet trends, he also advocates getting away from processed foods 
 because of hidden calories/chemicals.  I find the fasting to be getting 
 easier each time, and definitely easier than trying to limit my choices 
 around a house and community filled with carbs; but admittedly, I haven't 
 taken any longer rides on a fasting day to see how it might go.
 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 2:24:55 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 I've never read and am not familiar with the 5/2 Fast Diet. I follow the 
 Perfect Health Diet, which is 70-80% fat by calories, the balance carbs and 
 protein. In general I eat one meal a day, so do a 22-26 hour fast most 
 days. My brain does much better when it enters ketosis regularly (much more 
 stable brain energy, focus, etc.). Everything I've read cautions against a 
 high protein diet. Also, source of fat and fish and meat, dairy, and eggs 
 matters greatly -- wild caught or 100% grass fed or wild pastured 
 (depending on what beastie it is). Also I'd suggest eating when you are 
 hungry rather than following some arbitrary schedule. I have not been 
 hungry in any of the fasting I do. My body simply burns fat stores and 
 chugs along happily. Some days I have two meals. I've yet to go longer than 
 32 hours fasting, and have no plans to try for longer unless it just 
 happens. Oh, and I often ride 6-8 hours fasted. Feels great! 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:01:38 PM UTC-6, doc wrote: 

 Since Paleo seems to be fair game as a topic, I'll ask if anyone else is 
 trying the Michael Mosley 5/2 Fast Diet?  I've seen the PBS episodes, both 
 on diet and on exercise, and read the diet book.  I find some of the 
 science (not that I'm a scientist) to be similar to what Taubes advocates, 
 but the methodology is quite different.  In essence, he is using fasting to 
 achieve ketosis, rather than an exclusively protien rich diet.



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[RBW] Re: 5/2 Fast Diet?

2013-04-24 Thread bobish

Although I consider Taubes a charlatan, I have read up and experimented with 
many types of intermittent fasting (including 5/2) and think that some sort of 
regular or semi-regular fasting is a great idea for many reasons. Usually, 
fasting conjures up images of hippies talking about life force and cleansing 
but there are many practical applications of it being practiced. Check out the 
true north clinic for one. They basically treat diseases by water fasts and 
have good success. For someone already healthy, it's good to remember that 
fasting has been around for a long time--forced at times of famine and 
voluntary at other times (usually religious in nature). We are well-suited to 
it. Who came up with 3 meals and 2 snacks a day anyway and why is that the best 
way to eat? I suspect that fasting played some role in the original 
Mediterranean diet study results which date back to the 1950s or 1960s (if I 
recall correctly). Much of the study was in Crete and Greek Orthodox practice 
regular fasting and woud have kept to it back then. Many of the older 
generation still do. 

What's important, if you're intrigued, is to try if for yourself and see. I've 
been doing fast-5 for like 2 years and like it very much. The PDF book is free* 
if you want to check it out. http://www.fast-5.com/

Basically, every 24 hours, I eat within an 8 hour window and don't eat for 16 
hours. Works for me.

* I have no affiliation with the fast-5 site or authors. 

Bar,
Perry

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[RBW] Re: 5/2 Fast Diet?

2013-04-24 Thread Deacon Patrick

Usually, fasting conjures up images of hippies...

I got a kick out of this. Yes indeed. And of millennia of fasting faithful 
of many kinds, including Catholics every Lent.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:14:38 PM UTC-6, bobish wrote:

 Although I consider Taubes a charlatan, I have read up and experimented 
 with many types of intermittent fasting (including 5/2) and think that some 
 sort of regular or semi-regular fasting is a great idea for many reasons. 
 Usually, fasting conjures up images of hippies talking about life force and 
 cleansing but there are many practical applications of it being practiced. 
 Check out the true north clinic for one. They basically treat diseases by 
 water fasts and have good success. For someone already healthy, it's good 
 to remember that fasting has been around for a long time--forced at times 
 of famine and voluntary at other times (usually religious in nature). We 
 are well-suited to it. Who came up with 3 meals and 2 snacks a day anyway 
 and why is that the best way to eat? I suspect that fasting played some 
 role in the original Mediterranean diet study results which date back to 
 the 1950s or 1960s (if I recall correctly). Much of the study was in Crete 
 and Greek Orthodox practice regular fasting and woud have kept to it back 
 then. Many of the older generation still do. 

 What's important, if you're intrigued, is to try if for yourself and see. 
 I've been doing fast-5 for like 2 years and like it very much. The PDF book 
 is free* if you want to check it out. http://www.fast-5.com/ 

 Basically, every 24 hours, I eat within an 8 hour window and don't eat for 
 16 hours. Works for me. 

 * I have no affiliation with the fast-5 site or authors. 

 Bar, 
 Perry

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[RBW] Re: Barefoot Friendly Pedals

I have followed this post but hesitant to chime in until today.

Last fall I toyed with the idea of buying a pair of the 5 finger shoe, but 
opted instead for a pair of new balance minimalist sneakers.  I wore them 
in the shop all winter and really liked them.  Today it finally got warm 
enough to try them on the bike.  I'm a pretty good tester because I had 
surgery on the ball of my right foot a couple of years ago and still get a 
hot spot after more than two hours in almost any cycle shoe.  I rode today 
on the White Urban pedal with Bruce Gordon Clips for about 1 1/4 hrs. and 
really liked the feel.  My size 13 shoes don't usually fit well on clipless 
pedals and my Austin sneakers just barely fit under the large boot clip, 
but these new balance fit perfectly, stayed put on the pedal and felt fine.

Michael

On Friday, April 19, 2013 9:27:37 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Question upfront: how barefoot friendly are the pedals you ride? I'd love 
 input on all pedals, but am specifically wondering about both the VP thin 
 Gripster and MKS Grip King Rivendell offers.

 Relavant détails:
 -- I ride barefoot or in thin leather moccasins (when cold requires) 
 because of the increased proprioception (feedback from the feet that lets 
 the body know where it is in space) I require due to brain stem damage and 
 resultant vertigo.
 -- I am possibly acquiring a second bike (fixie) and thus in need of a 
 second pair of barefoot friendly pedals.
 -- I have and love my oak woodie Bullseye Pedals on my Hunga. These are 
 perhaps the ideal barefoot pedal.
 -- I'm doubtful about the clip less platform pedal set up from Bike Tinker 
 because of the inherent, albeit slight, rotational play inherent to 
 clipless.
 -- I live and run mountain trails barefoot or moccasined, so my feet are 
 well acclimated to rough/uneven surfaces; however, my experience with 
 pedals tells me that on rides longer than 2-3 hours, the foot gets tender 
 from the same pressure points.
 -- The pedal to beat (aside from the oak woodies) is the MKS Touring pedal 
 with rubber blocks. I have a pair with the outer rings filed down a bit.
 -- I ride mostly midfoot on the pedal.

 -- One thought on possibly worth trying is the Gripster pedals with a 
 thin Vibram soling (which I have) somehow screwed into the cleat treads 
 with broad flathead screws. Any suggestions here greatly appreciated.

 Thanks for your input!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:42 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
 
 Anyway, that Bianchi scared the hell out of me when I was descending
 the High Bridge in St. Paul in a full aero tuck with my butt hanging
 way off the back of the saddle (there was a little trend for this
 started by Marco Pantani when he was descending that way and everyone
 thought if a pro is doing it, it must be the way to descend).  The
 shimmy felt different and I determined later that it was probably the
 9 speed rear wheel shimmying- I had so much weight over it (I am 6'4
 and was a skinny 200 lbs in my racing days) that I reduced the spoke
 tension to much too low in the load affected area between the contact
 patch and the hub, destabilizing the wheel.  When I got my weight
 forward, the shimmy stopped.  

This is pretty clearly not shimmy, but rather speed wobble.



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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Kelly -- no news on the wheel-and-a-half. Should I be looking for it? And
how much do I owe for shipping?

Thanks!

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick,

I have a Shimano cassette hub rear on a Dyad rim along with a new Dyad
Rim. You are welcome to both if they fit your needs. These are both
700c 36 hole. Silver.
Even has a 11-25 9 speed cassette on it.

Cost is whatever freight is

Kelly

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:52:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Ian -- Thanks for this. I remain unsure about selling the
Sun Rhino wheels and from this agree that it's probably prudent to keep
them -- at least, keep them as long as I have the Fargo. I was sorta hoping
to do a whole/part trade ...

Strategy for now: keep riding the borrowed rims as long as I can whileI
keep my eye out for a good deal on a used wheelset. There's a local bike
swap this Saturday -- damn, and I have volunteered for the cleanup at
church. We'll have to see which waits ...

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ian A atte...@gmail.com wrote:

IMO: -

Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of LED
lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal. The
tires probably have some life left. Probably, a wheelset like this new
would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at
Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost a
few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225? That could
be a pretty good deal for someone. Probably worth more to just keep the
wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:

Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo:
Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear)
black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160
mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up
with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined
to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two
pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as
they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's
a fair price for this one?

Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have
sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes,
hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could
respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine.

2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other
rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram,
silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and
they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero
profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to
hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they
are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer
service, price, in that order?
2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE

What is the difference?

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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread Matt Beebe

+1 Car Free.



On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:23:00 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote:

  This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money 
 sucking car.
  
 Car Free going on 9 years now.  Certainly healthier, couldn't be happier.
  
 Ivory is a nice color on a lugged bike.  Course your will have to part 
 with your ride for a while.

  


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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-24 Thread Kelly

Shows delivered .. left at your front door.

Tracking #610936715000572

Kelly

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:34:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Kelly -- no news on the wheel-and-a-half. Should I be looking for it? And
how much do I owe for shipping?

Thanks!

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kelly tksl...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

Patrick,

Cost is whatever freight is

Kelly

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:52:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ian A atte...@gmail.com wrote:

IMO: -

Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of
LED lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal.
The tires probably have some life left. Probably, a wheelset like this
new would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at
Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost a
few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225? That
could be a pretty good deal for someone. Probably worth more to just keep
the wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:

Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the
Fargo: Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to
(rear) black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid
BB7 160 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH
3DN72
set up with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie,
from
splined to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks
and two pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on
them as they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's
a fair price for this one?

Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would
have sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted
spokes, hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I
could respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine.

2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other
rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500
gram,
silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A
and
they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero
profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to
hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they
are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer
service, price, in that order?
2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Well, I must not be at home then!

I'll be by this evening. How much for shipping?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote:

Shows delivered .. left at your front door.

Tracking #610936715000572

Kelly

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:34:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Kelly -- no news on the wheel-and-a-half. Should I be looking for it? And
how much do I owe for shipping?

Thanks!

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kelly tksl...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick,

Cost is whatever freight is

Kelly

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:52:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ian A atte...@gmail.com wrote:

IMO: -

Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of
LED lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal.
The tires probably have some life left. Probably, a wheelset like this
new would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at
Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost a
few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225? That
could be a pretty good deal for someone. Probably worth more to just keep
the wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:

Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the
Fargo: Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to
(rear) black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid
BB7 160 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH
3DN72
set up with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie,
from
splined to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks
and two pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on
them as they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26).
What's a fair price for this one?

Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would
have sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted
spokes, hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I
could respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine.

2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what
other rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub
500
gram, silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the
ME14A and they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A
semi
aero profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As
to
hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they
are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer
service, price, in that order?
2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 14:33 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 What is the difference?

http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2011/03/speed-wobble-when-the-bike-shakes-its-head/

This is NOT the sort of thing you sometimes read about in BQ reviews,
hands off at a particular speed, that Jan suggested curing with a roller
bearing headset.





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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-24 Thread Kelly

I don't know the shipping yet.. I'll call the bike shop tomorrow.

Kelly

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:55:37 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Well, I must not be at home then!

I'll be by this evening. How much for shipping?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kelly tksl...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

Shows delivered .. left at your front door.

Tracking #610936715000572

Kelly

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:34:48 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Kelly -- no news on the wheel-and-a-half. Should I be looking for it?
And how much do I owe for shipping?

Thanks!

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kelly tksl...@gmail.com wrote:

Patrick,

Cost is whatever freight is

Kelly

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:52:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

Strategy for now: keep riding the borrowed rims as long as I can
whileI keep my eye out for a good deal on a used wheelset. There's a
local
bike swap this Saturday -- damn, and I have volunteered for the cleanup
at
church. We'll have to see which waits ...

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ian A atte...@gmail.com wrote:

IMO: -

Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of
LED lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal.
The tires probably have some life left. Probably, a wheelset like this
new would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at
Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost
a
few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225? That
could be a pretty good deal for someone. Probably worth more to just
keep
the wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:

Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the
Fargo: Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to
(rear) black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with
Avid
BB7 160 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH
3DN72
set up with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie,
from
splined to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm
Kojaks
and two pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles
on
them as they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26).
What's a fair price for this one?

Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would
have sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15
butted
spokes, hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that
I
could respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine.

2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what
other rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub
500
gram, silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the
ME14A and they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A
semi
aero profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro.
As to
hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and
they
are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer
service, price, in that order?
2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Barefoot Friendly Pedals

2013-04-24 Thread tarik saleh

There used to be some low end but possibly worth trying GT branded
barefoot pedals which were rounded solid rubberized block pedals, bigger
than normal rubber pedals, smaller than BMX pedals. I see that electra has
some, but they seem to have a hole in the center which may or may  not be a
good idea.  We used to sell tons of these at the shop I worked at in TN
when people would want to ride their cruisers barefoot on the beach on
their yearly carolina beach vacation. We also did lots of yearly chain
replacement for these bikes as they were ridden in the surf and put away
salty and sat for a year before doing it again.

Probably a bit lower end than you had in mind, but I seem to remember the
GT ones could be repacked to spin pretty nicely.

Tarik


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Question upfront: how barefoot friendly are the pedals you ride? I'd love
 input on all pedals, but am specifically wondering about both the VP thin
 Gripster and MKS Grip King Rivendell offers.

 Relavant détails:
 -- I ride barefoot or in thin leather moccasins (when cold requires)
 because of the increased proprioception (feedback from the feet that lets
 the body know where it is in space) I require due to brain stem damage and
 resultant vertigo.
 -- I am possibly acquiring a second bike (fixie) and thus in need of a
 second pair of barefoot friendly pedals.
 -- I have and love my oak woodie Bullseye Pedals on my Hunga. These are
 perhaps the ideal barefoot pedal.
 -- I'm doubtful about the clip less platform pedal set up from Bike Tinker
 because of the inherent, albeit slight, rotational play inherent to
 clipless.
 -- I live and run mountain trails barefoot or moccasined, so my feet are
 well acclimated to rough/uneven surfaces; however, my experience with
 pedals tells me that on rides longer than 2-3 hours, the foot gets tender
 from the same pressure points.
 -- The pedal to beat (aside from the oak woodies) is the MKS Touring pedal
 with rubber blocks. I have a pair with the outer rings filed down a bit.
 -- I ride mostly midfoot on the pedal.

 -- One thought on possibly worth trying is the Gripster pedals with a
 thin Vibram soling (which I have) somehow screwed into the cleat treads
 with broad flathead screws. Any suggestions here greatly appreciated.

 Thanks for your input!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] FS: 1984 Trek 620

Michael,

Just a gorgeous bike and I wish it was my size darn! I'm sure as I post this 
its already sold.

Best,

Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Tim McNamara

On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
 On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:42 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:
 
 Anyway, that Bianchi scared the hell out of me when I was descending
 the High Bridge in St. Paul in a full aero tuck with my butt hanging
 way off the back of the saddle (there was a little trend for this
 started by Marco Pantani when he was descending that way and everyone
 thought if a pro is doing it, it must be the way to descend).  The
 shimmy felt different and I determined later that it was probably the
 9 speed rear wheel shimmying- I had so much weight over it (I am 6'4
 and was a skinny 200 lbs in my racing days) that I reduced the spoke
 tension to much too low in the load affected area between the contact
 patch and the hub, destabilizing the wheel.  When I got my weight
 forward, the shimmy stopped.  
 
 This is pretty clearly not shimmy, but rather speed wobble.

A shimmy is a shimmy.  One was a front end shimmy, the other was a back end 
shimmy.

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram

Patrick, I have had a number of Mavic rims in my life and have gotten good 
service from all of them. ( The Ebisu I just sold has a front wheel of 
Campy NR  Mavic MA 40 which are ancient and going strong.) I have two sets 
of wheels with Open Pro rims one set is 36/32 and the other 32/28 and they 
have both held up very well for many years under general road riding, 
including lots of bad roads and dirt roads.  I have not tried to use them 
for loaded touring but it doesn't sound like that's your plan.  As for any 
decline in quality, I would talk to a professional wheel builder.  These 
guys can often spot a poorly made rim while building.

I think for the use you are talking about Phil Wood are over built, heavy, 
and expensive. Great for touring but overkill on day trips.  I have a pair 
of Open Pro on White Ind. Hubs - lighter, $100 cheaper, and a very well 
made hub.  Some people say they are noisy, but that is mostly in the shop. 
 Above 12 mph the coasting noise is a barely audible hum.

Michael

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:02:55 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: 
 Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) 
 black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 
 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up 
 with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined 
 to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two 
 pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as 
 they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

 I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's a 
 fair price for this one?

 Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have 
 sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, 
 hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could 
 respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 

 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other 
 rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, 
 silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and 
 they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero 
 profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to 
 hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they 
 are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer 
 service, price, in that order?
 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1984 Trek 620

2013-04-24 Thread Matt Beebe

Legendary! 620. That one and the 1985 model.I have an '82 614 and an
'89 520 myself. 80's Treks are such righteous bikes.Thanks for
posting the pics.

Matt

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1984 Trek 620

Classic Trek Frame, Reynolds 531, in good condition. Never crashed, some
paint chips and some oxidation at cable guides.

ST, 61 C-T; TT, 58 C-C; CS 45.5;

Bike $900; Frame Set with new Cane Creek HS and Tange BB $500

Components:

Nitto stem 12cm, Noodle bars 46cm, Nitto seat post al in excellent
condition.

Brakes - Original Di Comp Cantis and new Tektro Levers

Crank - Sugino triple (48/34/26) 175 mm with new rings.

Wheels - Arraya/105. These were the wheels supplied with my Ram.

Cassette - Ultegra 9 spd, 12-27

RD - Ultegra; FD - 105; Bar End Silver Shifters.

Tires 32 mm Tserv in good condition.

Pictures at:

Please respond off list

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[RBW] What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread Michael

I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see 
are super chunky.
Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
Thanks for any tips.

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Re: [RBW] What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread René Sterental

The cushiest tape I have used is the Cinelli cork gel tape. I may end up using 
it on all my bars, but currently have it on two. Brooks leather on the others, 
which isn't cushy. 


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 are super chunky.
 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
 Thanks for any tips.
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[RBW] My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

2013-04-24 Thread djbardwil

About a month ago, I was scouring the eBay listings and ran across a Nitto 
rack for sale but further in the listing, the owner noted that the Atlantis 
it was attached to was also for sale.  An e-mail or two and a day later I 
found myself in Brooklyn, NY loading up the car with this fantastic bike!   

The owner kept the original Brooks saddle and so I decided to try out the 
Electric Blue B17 which was actually a better tone in person than its 
name affords.  Add on the SKS fenders, BM Lighting, some Tressostar blue 
chainstay wrap with hemp ends, and a (simply awesome) Sackville SaddleSack 
XSmall and I have my holy grail bike!

I've been riding it as much as possible and pretty much everywhere to test 
out the all-rounder-ness and can confirm it is like no other road bike or 
mountain bike I have ever pedaled.

Some pictures taken today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8678528007/in/pool-rivendell

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yet another post on shimmy

2013-04-24 Thread Hiawatha Cyclery

Hilarious that the slang terms shimmy and speed wobble invite a 
discussion of semantics. We may require some more exact language.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:38:45 PM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote:

 On Apr 24, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
  On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:42 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: 
  
  Anyway, that Bianchi scared the hell out of me when I was descending 
  the High Bridge in St. Paul in a full aero tuck with my butt hanging 
  way off the back of the saddle (there was a little trend for this 
  started by Marco Pantani when he was descending that way and everyone 
  thought if a pro is doing it, it must be the way to descend).  The 
  shimmy felt different and I determined later that it was probably the 
  9 speed rear wheel shimmying- I had so much weight over it (I am 6'4 
  and was a skinny 200 lbs in my racing days) that I reduced the spoke 
  tension to much too low in the load affected area between the contact 
  patch and the hub, destabilizing the wheel.  When I got my weight 
  forward, the shimmy stopped.   
  
  This is pretty clearly not shimmy, but rather speed wobble. 

 A shimmy is a shimmy.  One was a front end shimmy, the other was a back 
 end shimmy.

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

Building up another lugged bike. Paypal works good for me plus I'll pay 
your transaction fee.

Best,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

What is this mysterious lugged bicycle?

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

2013-04-24 Thread PeterG

I have 46'S with brakes and interrupters if you are interested

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1984 Trek 620

2013-04-24 Thread Rich Parr

Second. I have a (much smaller) '85 with the original blackburn racks. Just
switched over the 700c wheels with 35s on there; love it.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:16:56 PM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

Legendary! 620. That one and the 1985 model.I have an '82 614 and
an '89 520 myself. 80's Treks are such righteous bikes.Thanks for
posting the pics.

Matt

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1984 Trek 620

Classic Trek Frame, Reynolds 531, in good condition. Never crashed, some
paint chips and some oxidation at cable guides.

ST, 61 C-T; TT, 58 C-C; CS 45.5;

Bike $900; Frame Set with new Cane Creek HS and Tange BB $500

Components:

Nitto stem 12cm, Noodle bars 46cm, Nitto seat post al in excellent
condition.

Brakes - Original Di Comp Cantis and new Tektro Levers

Crank - Sugino triple (48/34/26) 175 mm with new rings.

Wheels - Arraya/105. These were the wheels supplied with my Ram.

Cassette - Ultegra 9 spd, 12-27

RD - Ultegra; FD - 105; Bar End Silver Shifters.

Tires 32 mm Tserv in good condition.

Pictures at:

Please respond off list

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Re: [RBW] My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

2013-04-24 Thread René Sterental

Nice!

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013, djbardwil wrote:

 About a month ago, I was scouring the eBay listings and ran across a Nitto
 rack for sale but further in the listing, the owner noted that the Atlantis
 it was attached to was also for sale.  An e-mail or two and a day later I
 found myself in Brooklyn, NY loading up the car with this fantastic bike!

 The owner kept the original Brooks saddle and so I decided to try out the
 Electric Blue B17 which was actually a better tone in person than its
 name affords.  Add on the SKS fenders, BM Lighting, some Tressostar blue
 chainstay wrap with hemp ends, and a (simply awesome) Sackville SaddleSack
 XSmall and I have my holy grail bike!

 I've been riding it as much as possible and pretty much everywhere to test
 out the all-rounder-ness and can confirm it is like no other road bike or
 mountain bike I have ever pedaled.

 Some pictures taken today:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/45736724@N04/8678528007/in/pool-rivendell

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

Mr. Nolan,

No it's not the 850 :-) It's a 660 I got from Chris down Texas way. It may 
be my go speedy steed. The 850 is just hanging out till I figure out the 
money for that build.

Best,

Hugh

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:21:37 PM UTC-7, EGNolan wrote:

 What is this mysterious lugged bicycle?

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

Peter,

Let me consider that I run 44's on my Hilsen I believe and I thought about 
going a bit narrower? I'll get back to you shortly.

Best,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:25:44 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote:

 I have 46'S with brakes and interrupters if you are interested

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

660 should be fun. I just sold some 44's locally, damn the man. Good luck.

Best,
Eric

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Re: [RBW] My new (to me) Atlantis on a local ride in NJ

That rack seems slight overkill for the bag. But, really, beautiful bike, 
great set up.

Best,
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[RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread Kellie Stapleton

I use only cork tape.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:42:46 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see 
 are super chunky.
 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
 Thanks for any tips.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread Peter Morgano

Marshmallows, use Fluff in the bends.
On Apr 24, 2013 9:22 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I use only cork tape.

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:42:46 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I see
 are super chunky.
 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
 Thanks for any tips.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Silver brakes w/ salmon pads

Are the brakes nutted or recessed? 

Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread clayton

Thank you everyone! So far the Leave it, just put on the head badge group
is winning. It *would *be easier...

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 12:31:50 PM UTC-7, clayton wrote:

This is my car. I don't own a carbon spewing, children killing, money
sucking car. This sucks up my money insteadlol.

Now I ask the groups wisdom. Do I paint the head tube ivory? Now it is
solid powder coat gloss olive and looks utilitarian and off roady. I think
it needs to be classed up a bit.

I have had three back surgeries and three carpal tunnel surgeries, hence
the HIGH bars.

Thanks for looking and thanks for your head tube advice in advance...
Clayton

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[RBW] 64cm Rambouillet - Handlebar bag/decaleur combinations

2013-04-24 Thread Swza

Hello everyone,
I was hoping someone in the group could give me a recommendation on a tall 
handlebar bag and decaleur that will work on a frame this large (64cm).  My 
handlebar is high above the nitto front rack and I'm not sure if there is a 
decaleur that will reach down low enough to connect to a bag.  I was 
looking at the Berthoud 28 bag because it is so tall and was curious if the 
VO Decaleur fork receiver will reach down enough.  

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-218.html

Anyone have any experience with a larger Rivendell frame and  handlebar 
bag?  Thanks a lot.

Jeff
Denver 

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[RBW] Re: Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread clayton

Hi Reid,
I keep my cable lock and a skinny cable, to lock my panniers and seatseat 
post, in the largest part of the bag. I made that area large enough to hold 
both, coiled up. In the rear I keep my extra tube, patch kit, Park tool 
mini thingee, and a small pump. The pump is held to the inside top of the 
bag with a sewn in sheath, to leave room underneath. I also keep glass 
cleaner wipes and usually a bunch of napkins for my runny nose...(Still 
cold here, although this weekend is supposed to be warmYea!). If I was 
to make another one, I would make it a little larger to hold a couple of 
bungies too.

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:49:52 PM UTC-7, Reid wrote:

 Hey Clayton -- Curious about the long, relatively narrow frame bag that 
 you made. Is that just for as much general stuff as you can stuff in 
 there, or is it fitted for something specific?  Nice setup. I like it! A 
 real touring Atlantis.
  
 Reid
  


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Re: [RBW] Pictures of the worlds most perfect Atlantis (for me). Should I paint the head tube ivory?

2013-04-24 Thread clayton

Actually, my saddle is 12 years old. When I originally got it,  I treated 
it with snow seal, multiple times, and heating it to help it soak in. It 
didn't soften up for years!
 
Just in the past two years or so, with Obenaufs (sp?) it is softening. Much 
more comfortable.lol. 

On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 1:27:39 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 14:37 -0500, Bruce Herbitter wrote: 
  Why not try a headtube color that approximates the honey of the 
  saddle, the panniers or the bar tape? 

 That saddle isn't going to stay that color very long. 





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[RBW] Re: New Soma San Marcos owner and pictures

2013-04-24 Thread Fai Mao

I like the way this bike rides though I cannot yet really comment on it 
because it arrived with the wrong fork. It currently has the the fork for 
the smaller 650b frames and even though the 700c wheels and tires fit the 
lower trail makes the bike a bit of a squirrel.  Soma's customer service in 
this regard was tremendous in that all the bike shop here on Guam had to do 
was to call them to get a replacement. However, I am waiting for the mail. 
You may have heard of the Slow boat to China  Well the boat to Guam is 
slower!   So when the proper fork arrives that will have to be changed out. 
The only immediate issue with the fork is that I have to use a short reach 
brake caliper on the front and the rake looks a bit funny looking at the 
bike you can tell it has the wrong fork

I was expecting this bike to handle a lot slower than it does. Looking at 
the slack angles and low BB I assumed it would be more like a touring bike 
but that is not true at all. Maybe the shorter than normal front center is 
the reason. It has a smooth ride and despite the fork issue steers well has 
long as I pay attention. Indeed, I've a triathlon bike in Hong Kong that is 
far more squirrelly than the Soma and the Tri bike has no issue with the 
fork

Most of my components are pretty straight forward. Lots of bike have Veloce 
shifters. The only realy odd parts are the flat-bar shifters and I can 
really recommend those. They take an hour or so to get used to but once you 
figure them out they are really nice. The weird thing is that they are not 
a push/push setup where you only use your thumb but a push to go to a 
bigger sprocket/chain-ring and pull on a trigger behind the brake lever to 
go to a smaller sprocket/Chain-ring. This is kind of strange at first but 
easy to learn and now when I ride the other bike I find myself reaching for 
the Campagnolo downshift trigger. The harder thing is that you can shift 
more than one gear at a time and it takes a while to learn to push or pull 
just enough to shift only once; they take some technique. However, once you 
spend the time to get used to them I think you can shift faster (not that 
matters a whole lot to me) with them than with a push/push system.

Two other things that are notable about the shifters. First is that unlike 
Ergo versions they have no quick release so you need to use non-Campagnolo 
caliper brakes which on the Soma is not a big deal. Second Campagnolo got 
the location of the gear indicator exactly right. I have used 78-speed 
flat-bar shifters on other bikes and the gear indicator was generally 
worthless because you could never see it. By placing it in front of the bar 
rather than under the bar Campy made it useful and with 10 cogs in back it 
is nice to have the visual reference 
 
I am still a bit scared of the Vento Reaction CX Wheels. They just don't 
look like they have enough spokes but they are fairly light and seem to 
hold my weight. They are certainly light enough without being stupid light.

I've put about 200 miles on this bike in the 3 weeks or so I've had it just 
making loops around the university campus and riding to Tamuning for lunch 
on Fridays. Once I get the right fork on the bike I am planning to do what 
is called the South Island Loop which is about 60 miles around the hilly 
southern 1/2 of Guam
   



On Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:30:49 PM UTC+10, Fai Mao wrote:

 Greetings

 After a 5 week delay to get most of the parts the San Marcos is on the 
 road.

 I was looking for a less slow bike than the Mongoose grocery bike and the 
 Sam Hillborne is in Hong Kong with the family. When this contract is up in 
 18 months I'll take the Soma back with me.

 This is not a very retro build. 

 Frame and Fork: Soma San Marcos 54 CM

 Components
 Headset: Campagnolo Record
 Seat Post: Generic 
 Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal
 Stem: Dirt Drop 80 CM
 Shifters: Campagnolo Veloce Flat bar 10/speed
 Bars: Nitto flat  straight I do not know the number
 Crank: Centaur compact 170-50/34
 Cassette: Camagnolo 12-30 10/speed
 Derailleurs: Campagnolo Veloce medium cage rear QS front
 Chain KMC 10 speed
 Brakes Tektro long reach
 Wheels Campagnolo: Vento Reaction CX
 Tires: Continental Gator Skins 700X28 

 The bike weighs in at just over 22 pounds 
 At this point the only thing I'd change is to get a Campy triple up front. 
 I have a very bad knee and need a bit lower gears

 Notes: 
 1. The photos show a temporary crank that was installed until I got the 
 Campy one in
 2. The tires have also been replace with the 700X28's

 I am an awful photographer so excuse the poor pictures

 http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Phil_hk/slideshow/Bicycle/Soma




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[RBW] f.s. cleaning out the basement

2013-04-24 Thread dylan alverson

Hey everyone I've got a handful of things I thought I'd throw up here 
before dealing with the dreaded ebay please email me for pictures if your 
interested I'll get back to you promptly 

1. rivendell baggins saddle bag hole in one of the side pouches that is 
pretty substantial and missing one of the leather straps that close the 
bag.  $50 shipped
2. nitto promenade bars swept back with slight rise  $45 shipped
3. nitto promenade bars no rise round bend   $45 shipped
4. nitto periscope stem 26.0  $35 shipped
5. 26 inch phil wood front wheel mavic m400 rim 32 hole front hub in need 
of new bearings but wheel is in wonderful shape  75 shipped 
6 mercian vincitore sport touring frame black and gold beautiful lugs, 
eyelets for fenders and rear rack uses long reach nutted brakes will take 
32mm tire with fender comes with campagnolo headset.  beautiful frame. 
 $400 plus shipping
7 retro grouch cockpit  nitto technomic stem 70mm nitto randonneur bars 
with superbe pro brake levers with mirror sewn up vintage leather handlebar 
wrap $100
8 black sugino rd cranks 165 with 34 44 silver chainrings 60 shipped
9 mkls gr-9 platform pedals $25 shipped 
10 28.6 suntour superbe pro seat pillar  $55 shipped
11 bagman expedition saddle bag support 35 shipped
12 bridgestone mb-2 ritchey bi-plane fork with mid fork eyelets brazed. 
 lightly sprayed orange to keep rust off 65 shipped 
13 belleri rando bars small 38's I think very cool tho  25 shipped

thanks for looking ill take paypal or trade for a set of jitensha bars, 
primary dynamo light, rear 650b multi speed rear wheel.
thanks,
Dylan

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[RBW] Re: New Soma San Marcos owner and pictures

2013-04-24 Thread Fai Mao

I forgot to add that this bike was a hoot in the shop.
Hornet Sports on Guam deals mainly in race stuff. Carbon/Aluminum - bars to 
low - tires too skinny or monster downhill type stuff. They had customers 
asking about the bike as they built it up for me. It really drew a lot of 
attention. One of the men I work with wants one.   

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:30:49 PM UTC+10, Fai Mao wrote:

 Greetings

 After a 5 week delay to get most of the parts the San Marcos is on the 
 road.

 I was looking for a less slow bike than the Mongoose grocery bike and the 
 Sam Hillborne is in Hong Kong with the family. When this contract is up in 
 18 months I'll take the Soma back with me.

 This is not a very retro build. 

 Frame and Fork: Soma San Marcos 54 CM

 Components
 Headset: Campagnolo Record
 Seat Post: Generic 
 Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal
 Stem: Dirt Drop 80 CM
 Shifters: Campagnolo Veloce Flat bar 10/speed
 Bars: Nitto flat  straight I do not know the number
 Crank: Centaur compact 170-50/34
 Cassette: Camagnolo 12-30 10/speed
 Derailleurs: Campagnolo Veloce medium cage rear QS front
 Chain KMC 10 speed
 Brakes Tektro long reach
 Wheels Campagnolo: Vento Reaction CX
 Tires: Continental Gator Skins 700X28 

 The bike weighs in at just over 22 pounds 
 At this point the only thing I'd change is to get a Campy triple up front. 
 I have a very bad knee and need a bit lower gears

 Notes: 
 1. The photos show a temporary crank that was installed until I got the 
 Campy one in
 2. The tires have also been replace with the 700X28's

 I am an awful photographer so excuse the poor pictures

 http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Phil_hk/slideshow/Bicycle/Soma




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Re: [RBW] thoughts on the current state of the Riv-ish bicycle marketplace

2013-04-24 Thread Fai Mao

So does a Tom Collins become a Test Pilot or something?

On Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:26:57 AM UTC+10, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 For some reason, this thread reminds me of a college acquaintance who 
 enjoyed the cocktail known as the Old Fashioned. But since that sounds like 
 something an old geezer would drink, he took it upon himself to rename it 
 the Space Age.

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

2013-04-24 Thread Pondero

I'm pretty sure I've got 42s, if I'm wrong, they're 44s.  I'll measure soon and 
get back to you.

Chris

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[RBW] Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

2013-04-24 Thread Pondero

Yep, 42 it is.  Unless you already have another deal working, let's continue 
offline.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

2013-04-24 Thread Mike Schiller

... new speedy steed  ... planning on some fast road rides?  What size 
tires will that bike fit?  

~mike

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:54:59 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Mr. Nolan,

 No it's not the 850 :-) It's a 660 I got from Chris down Texas way. It may 
 be my go speedy steed. The 850 is just hanging out till I figure out the 
 money for that build.

 Best,

 Hugh

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:21:37 PM UTC-7, EGNolan wrote:

 What is this mysterious lugged bicycle?



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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

Unicorn tears.

Cheers,
David



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 Marshmallows, use Fluff in the bends.
 On Apr 24, 2013 9:22 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I use only cork tape.

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:42:46 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I
 see are super chunky.
 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
 Thanks for any tips.

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Re: [RBW] What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread Ron Mc

I like Brooks leather wrap with leather gloves.  

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:47:06 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

 The cushiest tape I have used is the Cinelli cork gel tape. I may end up 
 using it on all my bars, but currently have it on two. Brooks leather on 
 the others, which isn't cushy. 

 René 
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 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread Seth Vidal

That's funny - I always pad my bars with smartass answers. :)

-sv



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 Unicorn tears.

 Cheers,
 David



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 Marshmallows, use Fluff in the bends.
 On Apr 24, 2013 9:22 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I use only cork tape.

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:42:46 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I
 see are super chunky.
 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
 Thanks for any tips.

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

Ha Chris your the man! A great 660 and now the noodles. Noodlish joy :-)

Hugh

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:58:24 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:

 I'm pretty sure I've got 42s, if I'm wrong, they're 44s.  I'll measure 
 soon and get back to you.

 Chris


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[RBW] Re: Rivsters anyone have 42-44 cm noodles gathering dust?

Hey Mike,

Really figured they'd run 700c x 28 mm which will be plenty fine for the 
road around here and SD maybe a set of cross tires? and that's without 
fenders. Really just want a back up rig with just a medium saddle bag 
not necessarily a go fast bike. More of a bike to keep up with my younger 
Brother :-)

Hugh

On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:06:06 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 ... new speedy steed  ... planning on some fast road rides?  What size 
 tires will that bike fit?  

 ~mike

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:54:59 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Mr. Nolan,

 No it's not the 850 :-) It's a 660 I got from Chris down Texas way. It 
 may be my go speedy steed. The 850 is just hanging out till I figure out 
 the money for that build.

 Best,

 Hugh

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:21:37 PM UTC-7, EGNolan wrote:

 What is this mysterious lugged bicycle?



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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

Laterally stiff smartass answers?

Cheers,
David



On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's funny - I always pad my bars with smartass answers. :)

 -sv



 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Unicorn tears.

 Cheers,
 David



 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Peter Morgano 
 uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 Marshmallows, use Fluff in the bends.
 On Apr 24, 2013 9:22 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I use only cork tape.

 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:42:46 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I see lotsa M bar pics around here, and seems like alot of the bars I
 see are super chunky.
 Was wondering what everyone was using under the tape.
 Thanks for any tips.

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Re: [RBW] thoughts on the current state of the Riv-ish bicycle marketplace

2013-04-24 Thread Brewster Fong

On Monday, April 22, 2013 10:20:32 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:

She did wonder why no one at the bike store had told this before (a
bigbox retailer, not an LBS).

You should have told her that this *bigbox retailer* is not a bike store
and if she went to a real LBS, they would or at least should have fitted
her properly!

Then I casually said, You know, with the right saddle set up, you don't
need padding...

The ideas work for a lot of people.

So true! It is a good thing there was someone like you to help her out.
Too bad, they don't have the same at that bigbox retailer Good Luck!

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

I worked at a Trek dealer in 2005 before I started HC. Back then they had
the Pilot series of comfort-road bikes. These were a more upright geometry
with clearance for 700x28 (gasp). The trick to selling them was to
de-emphasize the comfort part of the category. In many cyclists' minds,
comfort = a geeky 50-lb Pee Wee Herman ballooner.

On Monday, April 22, 2013 10:55:49 AM UTC-5, ccanter wrote:

Similarly. Stumbled upon this at the Trek site a while back. Seems they
have a new fit system.
H2 Fit

H2 features a slightly higher head tube to put less strain on your back
and neck. It's the right way to get most riders, including many of our Pro
Team riders, in the right place. With no need for high-rise stems or spacer
stacks, the look is nothing but pro.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thil...@gmail.com wrote:

In the recent thread about SunTour's comeback, this quote was presented:

Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component
business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber,
electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the
enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to
nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of
cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and
randonneuring
components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday.

Of course, most of us Riv fans will note that this echoes Grant's
published opinions over the years, as well as the sales pitches of a few
brands who've tried, with varying success, to get into the Riv-ish segment
of the market. I discovered Riv almost 10 years ago because I wanted a
certain type of bike that didn't seem to exist at local shops. What I
wanted was a touring bike, and the Atlantis I bought filled that desire.
Had I been able to find a Trek 520 locally, or if the LHT existed back
then, my story may have taken some different turns. But it was certainly
true back then that any readily available higher quality bike was going to
be some kind of impractical skinny tire road bike. Not my style.

But things have changed drastically. Sure, many of us are baffled by
electronic shifting and seemingly delicate CF and 11-sp cassettes that
have
become available. But at the same time, a HUGE variety of touring and
adventure bikes, parts, and accessories have become not only available,
but mainstream. So while I wish Junzo and SunTour success, I thought his
rationale seemed hollow, or at least 5-10 years too late.

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[RBW] What'r you using for cush on your Moustache Bars under your tape?

2013-04-24 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I'm a mustache bar hater, so I kinda suspect the chunky padding is necessary to 
make the damned things minimally tolerable.

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