[RBW] Re: Anyone mounted a rear fender on rear brake bridge bottom screw hole?
Thanks for the help everyone. I just love this Sam frame with all the cool eyelets, etc. I hope to try it this weekend. Thanks for all the help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Need Cycling Safety Statistic for newspaper article
Aaron Lowenstein's observation is my favorite: Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:07:56 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Lies, damned lies, and statistics. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: 37% of all statistics are made up. On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:24 AM UTC+3, bo richardson wrote: I wrote an article for the Bellingham Herald about who pays for roads and that Chuckanut Drive was built for bicycles and wagons and not for cars. In the article I cited an old statistic that ninety percent of all cycling crashes happen in the first two years of cycling. I have been quoting the statistic for years and cant remember where I picked it up. I got called on it and the closest I could come to backing it up was that novices crash at a rate of five times that of experienced cyclists in spite of novices almost never riding in bad weather or at night or other dangerous times. Can anyone help me out or correct me on this point of fact? Thanks Bo Richardson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Anyone mounted a rear fender on rear brake bridge bottom screw hole?
How wide is this fender? There is a lot of space around it. David On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:22 AM, Mattt mattto...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Here is the picture. Sorry I am late. Life gets in the way. See the other hole. This is advise to not drill in the wrong spot. Matt On Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:50:51 PM UTC-5, Mattt wrote: I did this on my Sam. I did use a pan head screw I found at the hardware store. I am using honjo fenders. However concept is the same. I will take a picture and post in the morning to make sure we are talking about the same place for the screw. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. IMG_20130724_072105_0231.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Am using them on the Sam Hillborne and Long Haul Trucker. Really enjoy them. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Bought a pair for my wife' Betty so she'd have a solid platform. I took them out for a spin and well I'll be purchasing a pair for my Hilsen. ~Hugh On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:14:30 PM UTC-7, William wrote: I'm running my first pair of Thin Gripsters. I like them a lot so far. They really do grab well. The MKS Sneakers and the Grip Kings both have kind of a concave area in the middle that I had gotten used to, so the Thin Gripsters being MUCH flatter almost felt convex at first, but I've grown accustomed. I might drop my saddle a couple mm. They are so thin they made my saddle feel higher. So far, thumbs up! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Free new single speed bikes!
Dang, and I here I was getting pretty serious about downsizing my bike fleet. Oh well. Unbuilt frames don't count, right? Then I only have five... now. Eric On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:46 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: OK, *practically *free. REI just put their minimalist singlespeed the Buzz 1 on clearance. It's got 700xchubby tire clearance. $220 for a whole bike? 50% off, not bad. They also put their cargo-ish single speed on 50% off. Riv content: great vessel to add thin gripsters, longboard fenders, and a pair of Big Ben tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Colorado Trail with Eldest Daughter
Andy, I think the big challenge with kids is to have a good idea of what they can do (even if they don't know it yet) as a minimum distance. On tour of any sort there are certain distance requirements a route demands (getting to water, campsite, etc.). I carried enough water for 1.67 days should we have needed to dry camp. The only times I pushed her were on day one (threatening thunderstorms with a 5-7 second count between lightening and thunder. It never got closer, though rain did hit us, but exposed on the tundra, you don't want to mess around), and going through the motorbike small boulder chewed up swamp. Other than that, she decided when stops were, pace, etc. I taught her about mini-breaks of 10-15 seconds on long climbs (pedaling or LCG), so you can keep moving but give your body time to catch up. Then about wee 3-5 minute breaks. No need to teach about 20-60 minute breaks as she had those down. Grin. We talked a lot about how life tosses things your way and attitude is 90% of how the day goes. Yes, the going may be tough, but take one step, one pedal stroke at a time and you are moving forward. Amazing training for life. My wife commented (and I've seen as well) how much more confidence and self awareness and ownership she has after returning. I saw it grow on the trail. Beautiful to witness. She was stunned that she did 30+ miles on the last day (packed rocky dirt road, paved, mostly downhill, milage for the day all four previous days combined). Though she was challenged by the last 10 miles of paved that was relatively flat with some mild rollers, she kept a great attitude and simply downshifted and pedaled through it. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:44:39 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: I love seeing the 6, 8, 7, 5 mileage days. That's how you know it's an adventure... when the mileage isn't impressive at all. Low miles by necessity means there's a lot going on. Cool comment about the daughter and the milky way. Seeing the 10 year old boy riding his own bike on tour was a revelation to me regarding trips in the near-dstant future. Hearing about your 12 y.o. is more fuel on that fire. Rivs and kids... they just go together. --Smitty On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:48:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Our intrepid eldest daughter (12) joined me for 5 days of wild wonder on this bikepacking trip that included some of the most well known, quintessential single-track Colorado has to offer. The Monarch Crest trail is spectacular, alpine tundra and forest mountain biking at its very best. Then theres what comes after Silver Creek trail intersection (where most MC riders return to lower elevations). Miles of the trails are so chewed up by motorbike as to be devastating to travel up, flat, or down. It's all LCG (lowest common gear, walk-a-bike), which is fine when the trail is passable, but not when it's essentially turned into a quagmire of brain sized rocks, massive ruts, and loose torn up dirt. We later learned this section and the next one are the worst sections for such travesties. Learning the trail ahead was the same as what we'd taken to get the Sargents Mesa, we decided to head out from there, down a great county road in near complete seclusion for the 3,700 foot, 30 miles descent to Saguache. All camping was stunning and the motorbike trail, while frustrating, helped us appreciate the beauty of where we ended up all the more. We traveled 6, 8, 7, 5, and 30 miles (can you guess which day was the downhill, dirt and paved road day?) So, how did bikepacking fairly technical single-track with my 12 year old daughter go? Wonderfully! She set the pace. We talked about the importance of taking breaks when needed, but also balancing that with the need to get to a campsite with water. She chose to push herself, and learned all kinds of new skills for riding rocky trails, narrow trails slightly rutted, steep rocky descents (except for the motorbike area, she rode all the descents. I was amazed!). She had a fantastic attitude and we were both wide-eyed with wonder at this incredible plea we were blessed to be. One casualty: her wicker basket did not survive the second day's descent to Marshall Pass. It bounced right off it's top hoop save for a few tenacious wicker bits. It is now a future bird or squirrel nest at Marshall Pass. The test a a trip is would she want to go again. Absolutely! Wonderful! Here are the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634780609741/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikepacking Colorado Trail with Eldest Daughter
Or, ideally Peter, Yejuda's grow-a-bike that grows with your kids. I'd love to see what Grant came up with for that concept. One bike quality bike to buy from the time they can ride a geared bike until they are fully grown and it's time for an adult bike. Put on quality, hearty components and it would last through all the loving abuse. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:15:58 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Awesome pics and adventure. Speaking of Rivs and kids how much arm twisting would it take to get a small run of the Bosco Rubbe? Come on! On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love seeing the 6, 8, 7, 5 mileage days. That's how you know it's an adventure... when the mileage isn't impressive at all. Low miles by necessity means there's a lot going on. Cool comment about the daughter and the milky way. Seeing the 10 year old boy riding his own bike on tour was a revelation to me regarding trips in the near-dstant future. Hearing about your 12 y.o. is more fuel on that fire. Rivs and kids... they just go together. --Smitty On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:48:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Our intrepid eldest daughter (12) joined me for 5 days of wild wonder on this bikepacking trip that included some of the most well known, quintessential single-track Colorado has to offer. The Monarch Crest trail is spectacular, alpine tundra and forest mountain biking at its very best. Then theres what comes after Silver Creek trail intersection (where most MC riders return to lower elevations). Miles of the trails are so chewed up by motorbike as to be devastating to travel up, flat, or down. It's all LCG (lowest common gear, walk-a-bike), which is fine when the trail is passable, but not when it's essentially turned into a quagmire of brain sized rocks, massive ruts, and loose torn up dirt. We later learned this section and the next one are the worst sections for such travesties. Learning the trail ahead was the same as what we'd taken to get the Sargents Mesa, we decided to head out from there, down a great county road in near complete seclusion for the 3,700 foot, 30 miles descent to Saguache. All camping was stunning and the motorbike trail, while frustrating, helped us appreciate the beauty of where we ended up all the more. We traveled 6, 8, 7, 5, and 30 miles (can you guess which day was the downhill, dirt and paved road day?) So, how did bikepacking fairly technical single-track with my 12 year old daughter go? Wonderfully! She set the pace. We talked about the importance of taking breaks when needed, but also balancing that with the need to get to a campsite with water. She chose to push herself, and learned all kinds of new skills for riding rocky trails, narrow trails slightly rutted, steep rocky descents (except for the motorbike area, she rode all the descents. I was amazed!). She had a fantastic attitude and we were both wide-eyed with wonder at this incredible plea we were blessed to be. One casualty: her wicker basket did not survive the second day's descent to Marshall Pass. It bounced right off it's top hoop save for a few tenacious wicker bits. It is now a future bird or squirrel nest at Marshall Pass. The test a a trip is would she want to go again. Absolutely! Wonderful! Here are the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**32311885@N07/sets/**72157634780609741/http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634780609741/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Colorado Trail with Eldest Daughter
I meant to add that the Hunqapillar did amazingly. Since I haven't figured out ho to carry gear on the front on my Mark's Mini without messing with my vertigo, all weight was on the back. That's food for 10 days (we weren't sure how long we'd be out), clothing, stove, tent, sleeping bag, oddities, and a 100 oz water bladder. Not sure what it weighed, but it was relatively compact and rode amazingly. Descents included a lot of rocks and roots and weaving your way through the path of least resistance. Everything was solid and balanced the entire way. Before the trip, I'd wondered if my and the Hunqapillars capacity were up for the CT. No doubt about it now. Having done the most challenging sections of the trail for bikes (in terms of the motorbike swamp), the whole trail is available and waiting for when I want to give it a go. That is freeing. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 7/19 BLUG broken Sam
Yeah, scary pic. I wonder if the stick or whatever actually got stuck in the spokes rather than under the fender? On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:36:37 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: I may be naive, but just can't see how a *stick* could do such damage. I haven't had the displeasure, but imagine it going something like... stick gets sucked, front wheel locks, rapid deceleration, rider over bars and the bike probably leaves the ground relieving the force on the fork. Perhaps the extensive fork damage is the result of a post-stick, high speed impact? http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride, with photos
Philip: what's the problem with Flickr? A month or so ago there was much anguish on the CR list due to a new interface, but I hear it is still less messed-with than Google+/ex-Picassa. Someone suggested Ipernity -- any comments on that one? On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Signing up for Flickr now is like attending UC Santa Cruz in the early Nineties. Withered old men of 45 riding expensive mountain bikes will tell you how great things were in the old days. Do it, but be prepared. Gird your loins. Philip (ask me how I know) www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:08:09 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, fu*k Google+. I'll sign up for flickr. Photos attached; all deleted from G. Google: please snoop my emails and find my comments about G+. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:52 PM, bobish bob...@gmail.com wrote: Page says I can't see pics unless I join g+. This isn't the first time. Not joining so I guess I'll learn to do without. It's become a bone of contention now. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bikepacking Colorado Trail with Eldest Daughter
great adventure, Patrick. That's a lucky 12 yo. On Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:15:58 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Awesome pics and adventure. Speaking of Rivs and kids how much arm twisting would it take to get a small run of the Bosco Rubbe? Come on! On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love seeing the 6, 8, 7, 5 mileage days. That's how you know it's an adventure... when the mileage isn't impressive at all. Low miles by necessity means there's a lot going on. Cool comment about the daughter and the milky way. Seeing the 10 year old boy riding his own bike on tour was a revelation to me regarding trips in the near-dstant future. Hearing about your 12 y.o. is more fuel on that fire. Rivs and kids... they just go together. --Smitty On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:48:51 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Our intrepid eldest daughter (12) joined me for 5 days of wild wonder on this bikepacking trip that included some of the most well known, quintessential single-track Colorado has to offer. The Monarch Crest trail is spectacular, alpine tundra and forest mountain biking at its very best. Then theres what comes after Silver Creek trail intersection (where most MC riders return to lower elevations). Miles of the trails are so chewed up by motorbike as to be devastating to travel up, flat, or down. It's all LCG (lowest common gear, walk-a-bike), which is fine when the trail is passable, but not when it's essentially turned into a quagmire of brain sized rocks, massive ruts, and loose torn up dirt. We later learned this section and the next one are the worst sections for such travesties. Learning the trail ahead was the same as what we'd taken to get the Sargents Mesa, we decided to head out from there, down a great county road in near complete seclusion for the 3,700 foot, 30 miles descent to Saguache. All camping was stunning and the motorbike trail, while frustrating, helped us appreciate the beauty of where we ended up all the more. We traveled 6, 8, 7, 5, and 30 miles (can you guess which day was the downhill, dirt and paved road day?) So, how did bikepacking fairly technical single-track with my 12 year old daughter go? Wonderfully! She set the pace. We talked about the importance of taking breaks when needed, but also balancing that with the need to get to a campsite with water. She chose to push herself, and learned all kinds of new skills for riding rocky trails, narrow trails slightly rutted, steep rocky descents (except for the motorbike area, she rode all the descents. I was amazed!). She had a fantastic attitude and we were both wide-eyed with wonder at this incredible plea we were blessed to be. One casualty: her wicker basket did not survive the second day's descent to Marshall Pass. It bounced right off it's top hoop save for a few tenacious wicker bits. It is now a future bird or squirrel nest at Marshall Pass. The test a a trip is would she want to go again. Absolutely! Wonderful! Here are the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**32311885@N07/sets/**72157634780609741/http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634780609741/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bikepacking Colorado Trail with Eldest Daughter
Wow, spectacular adventure, Patrick... Good for you (and especially your daughter). I've ridden a few great trails in the US, and Monarch Crest ranks right up there with the finest. I rode it with a friend (on mountain bikes) a few years back (in early October). After getting shuttled to the top of Monarch Pass in the early AM (with a little lingering snow for added drama), we rode 35 miles of mostly downhill singletrack back into Poncha Springs, a most epic and exciting ride. My only regret was that we covered way too much ground way too fast... your method (ie savoring it over several days) is much-preferred. But we were on a 5-day tear through Colorado and had several places to see (again, too much, too fast)... Thanks for sharing those awesome pictures. Peace, Bobby On Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:22:02 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I meant to add that the Hunqapillar did amazingly. Since I haven't figured out ho to carry gear on the front on my Mark's Mini without messing with my vertigo, all weight was on the back. That's food for 10 days (we weren't sure how long we'd be out), clothing, stove, tent, sleeping bag, oddities, and a 100 oz water bladder. Not sure what it weighed, but it was relatively compact and rode amazingly. Descents included a lot of rocks and roots and weaving your way through the path of least resistance. Everything was solid and balanced the entire way. Before the trip, I'd wondered if my and the Hunqapillars capacity were up for the CT. No doubt about it now. Having done the most challenging sections of the trail for bikes (in terms of the motorbike swamp), the whole trail is available and waiting for when I want to give it a go. That is freeing. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
You guys are inspiring. I can't wait for my kids (3 yo, 1 yo) to get a little older for these types of trips. We're in the car camping phase, which is great fun, but it'd be nice to explore a bit more. Keep the pics (and adventures) coming! Shoji On Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:44:31 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Andy, What Aaron said, great images which inspire. You're really exploring the region. Best, ~Hugh On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv Powerboost
Great story. I wish more of my rides included berry-picking. The Powerboost is interesting though. Maybe the Quickbeam induced planing in your AHH It's possible, right? :) Aaron Young -Vancouver, WA On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Riding my AHH home from work yesterday, completely spent due to having a very light lunch consisting of only fruit, barely able to make another pedal stroke, when I see a bike cross my path in the distance that looks like it might be a Riv. Suddenly I found a reserve of energy that I had no idea existed and managed to catch up with the rider somewhat quickly, and sure enough it was a beautiful green Quickbeam! We parted ways after a few miles of riding together and little did I know we were actually going the same was, just via a different route. I'd stopped to pick eat some blackberries on the side of the trail (my favorite part of my commute, plus blackberry stains make for great beausage!) when he rode by again. I don't want to ID the rider in case he wants his location to remain anonymous, but it was very nice meeting you and riding with you if you're reading this now! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Fwd: [BOB] Early Rivendell on Boston Craigslist
Hey Gang, I saw this on the iBOB list and didn't see it here yet. Thought it might be interesting to members of this bunch as well. See Below. Also, no relation... Aaron Young Vancouver, WA -- Forwarded message -- From: Elton Pope-Lance velomer...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM Subject: [BOB] Early Rivendell on Boston Craigslist To: BOB iBOB List internet-...@googlegroups.com http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/3954089903.html No relation. . . Elton Pope-Lance Natick, MA -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, group rules and how to contact the moderation team, visit this group at https://groups.google.com/d/forum/internet-bob?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/8A8B7B1B-04C7-403E-AD4A-E9B33797A588%40gmail.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Fancy modern nitto rack
FWIW, Be s cycle on eBay is selling these for $149 w/ free shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
Absolutely fantastic! How was the campground? Quiet enough, what with I-84 and the UPRR close by? cc On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
Shoji, 1 and 3 years old are great ages to get them started bike camping. We had a couple 14 month olds on the Kidical Mass trip last weekend (22 miles one way via bike). And we were quite fortunate to know about the Suiattle River Road north of Seattle for this triphttp://smittyagogo.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/suiattle-kidspedition-2011/... a couple years ago. 3 car-free miles one way to the CG and 8 more miles of car-free country road to explore without gear. Happy to pass along pointers or answer Qs about camping with little kids. Send me a message. Chris, I-84 traffic was a gentle hum that was easily drowned out by the breeze and/or ambient CG sounds. The train was more obvious. But the CG has no illusion of wildrness to begin with and I like trains, so it was fine. I could imagine train noise being a nuisance to some. Manny, I didn't realize you were such a smooth operator. Aaron, U-Pick Riv Ride... coming to an orchard near you. Hugh, Let us know when you're coming and we'll plan something. --Smitty On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Need Cycling Safety Statistic for newspaper article
On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:34:24 PM UTC-7, bo richardson wrote: I wrote an article for the Bellingham Herald about who pays for roads and that Chuckanut Drive was built for bicycles and wagons and not for cars. In the article I cited an old statistic that ninety percent of all cycling crashes happen in the first two years of cycling. I have been quoting the statistic for years and cant remember where I picked it up. I got called on it and the closest I could come to backing it up was that novices crash at a rate of five times that of experienced cyclists in spite of novices almost never riding in bad weather or at night or other dangerous times. Can anyone help me out or correct me on this point of fact? Thanks Bo Richardson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
Have I mentioned how much I love the northwest? Looking forward to Me-picking my way through the orchards of Hood River County. cc On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: Shoji, 1 and 3 years old are great ages to get them started bike camping. We had a couple 14 month olds on the Kidical Mass trip last weekend (22 miles one way via bike). And we were quite fortunate to know about the Suiattle River Road north of Seattle for this triphttp://smittyagogo.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/suiattle-kidspedition-2011/... a couple years ago. 3 car-free miles one way to the CG and 8 more miles of car-free country road to explore without gear. Happy to pass along pointers or answer Qs about camping with little kids. Send me a message. Chris, I-84 traffic was a gentle hum that was easily drowned out by the breeze and/or ambient CG sounds. The train was more obvious. But the CG has no illusion of wildrness to begin with and I like trains, so it was fine. I could imagine train noise being a nuisance to some. Manny, I didn't realize you were such a smooth operator. Aaron, U-Pick Riv Ride... coming to an orchard near you. Hugh, Let us know when you're coming and we'll plan something. --Smitty On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv Powerboost
Blackberry picking rides are some of the best ones! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5994776455/in/photostream/ On 7/25/13, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: Great story. I wish more of my rides included berry-picking. The Powerboost is interesting though. Maybe the Quickbeam induced planing in your AHH It's possible, right? :) Aaron Young -Vancouver, WA On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Riding my AHH home from work yesterday, completely spent due to having a very light lunch consisting of only fruit, barely able to make another pedal stroke, when I see a bike cross my path in the distance that looks like it might be a Riv. Suddenly I found a reserve of energy that I had no idea existed and managed to catch up with the rider somewhat quickly, and sure enough it was a beautiful green Quickbeam! We parted ways after a few miles of riding together and little did I know we were actually going the same was, just via a different route. I'd stopped to pick eat some blackberries on the side of the trail (my favorite part of my commute, plus blackberry stains make for great beausage!) when he rode by again. I don't want to ID the rider in case he wants his location to remain anonymous, but it was very nice meeting you and riding with you if you're reading this now! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
Shoji, We bikepack with our family of six, including a 7-month old and 3-year old. Depending on the terrain, my wife hikes in with a pack and our 7-mo. old (4 or fewer miles) and I ride with the rest. But it gets us all out together, away from anyone else and works great. Here's a picture of the bike setup on a day ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8953217299/in/set-72157633937237638 In fact, the plan is to escape the next town event with a 2-3 night family bikepacking trip. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:27:32 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: You guys are inspiring. I can't wait for my kids (3 yo, 1 yo) to get a little older for these types of trips. We're in the car camping phase, which is great fun, but it'd be nice to explore a bit more. Keep the pics (and adventures) coming! Shoji On Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:44:31 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Andy, What Aaron said, great images which inspire. You're really exploring the region. Best, ~Hugh On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Need Cycling Safety Statistic for newspaper article
If I were looking for information like this the first place I'd be inclined to start would be with John Forester. You can begin at http://www.johnforester.com/Articles/Facilities/Pucher%20Revs.htm and then look at his bibliography. There should be references to the stats you're looking for someplace there. On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:34:24 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote: I wrote an article for the Bellingham Herald about who pays for roads and that Chuckanut Drive was built for bicycles and wagons and not for cars. In the article I cited an old statistic that ninety percent of all cycling crashes happen in the first two years of cycling. I have been quoting the statistic for years and cant remember where I picked it up. I got called on it and the closest I could come to backing it up was that novices crash at a rate of five times that of experienced cyclists in spite of novices almost never riding in bad weather or at night or other dangerous times. Can anyone help me out or correct me on this point of fact? Thanks Bo Richardson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Need Cycling Safety Statistic for newspaper article
Many reading this have no doubt googled for resources (http://www.bicyclinginfo.org/ ; http://www.nhtsa.gov/Bicycles ; IIHS). I don't think you'll find precisely what you're after, because all crashes are not reported and cataloged, and I don't think crash reports comprehensively include how long someone has been cycling as a usual question. Many bicycle falls are not reported, because they don't result in injury serious enough to report or be logged.This is one of the challenges with helmet safety statistics, riding/collision statistics, etc. One of the resources (can't remember which one) looked at the changing demographics of bicycle collisions. (I'll have to revisit that one, but it seems like information from older sources may not reliably be applied to the present given the shifts in collision demographics.) On Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:01:35 PM UTC-4, George Schick wrote: If I were looking for information like this the first place I'd be inclined to start would be with John Forester. You can begin at http://www.johnforester.com/Articles/Facilities/Pucher%20Revs.htm and then look at his bibliography. There should be references to the stats you're looking for someplace there. On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:34:24 PM UTC-5, bo richardson wrote: I wrote an article for the Bellingham Herald about who pays for roads and that Chuckanut Drive was built for bicycles and wagons and not for cars. In the article I cited an old statistic that ninety percent of all cycling crashes happen in the first two years of cycling. I have been quoting the statistic for years and cant remember where I picked it up. I got called on it and the closest I could come to backing it up was that novices crash at a rate of five times that of experienced cyclists in spite of novices almost never riding in bad weather or at night or other dangerous times. Can anyone help me out or correct me on this point of fact? Thanks Bo Richardson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
Thanks Andy Patrick... I'm feeling the pressure to take the kids bike camping! Maybe I'll start small and take just the 3 yo out with me. On Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:58:32 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Shoji, We bikepack with our family of six, including a 7-month old and 3-year old. Depending on the terrain, my wife hikes in with a pack and our 7-mo. old (4 or fewer miles) and I ride with the rest. But it gets us all out together, away from anyone else and works great. Here's a picture of the bike setup on a day ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8953217299/in/set-72157633937237638 In fact, the plan is to escape the next town event with a 2-3 night family bikepacking trip. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:27:32 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: You guys are inspiring. I can't wait for my kids (3 yo, 1 yo) to get a little older for these types of trips. We're in the car camping phase, which is great fun, but it'd be nice to explore a bit more. Keep the pics (and adventures) coming! Shoji On Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:44:31 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Andy, What Aaron said, great images which inspire. You're really exploring the region. Best, ~Hugh On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
If you're starting small, wouldn't you take the 1 year old? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:26:47 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Thanks Andy Patrick... I'm feeling the pressure to take the kids bike camping! Maybe I'll start small and take just the 3 yo out with me. On Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:58:32 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Shoji, We bikepack with our family of six, including a 7-month old and 3-year old. Depending on the terrain, my wife hikes in with a pack and our 7-mo. old (4 or fewer miles) and I ride with the rest. But it gets us all out together, away from anyone else and works great. Here's a picture of the bike setup on a day ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8953217299/in/set-72157633937237638 In fact, the plan is to escape the next town event with a 2-3 night family bikepacking trip. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:27:32 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: You guys are inspiring. I can't wait for my kids (3 yo, 1 yo) to get a little older for these types of trips. We're in the car camping phase, which is great fun, but it'd be nice to explore a bit more. Keep the pics (and adventures) coming! Shoji On Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:44:31 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Andy, What Aaron said, great images which inspire. You're really exploring the region. Best, ~Hugh On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 6:34:49 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: No pics to back up that claim, and I'm not even sure if it's true, but it seemed like a good title. My kids have been on fire about bike camping since we returned from a 6-day family bike tour a couple weeks ago. List member Tommy put out the feelers for a mid-week overnighter to the Columbia River Gorge. I was available as long as I could bring my kids (age 5 and 6). Tommy offered to tow one of them on a tag along bike. I'd only ever been out the gorge via a car on the interstate. Our pedaling route would be on the Historic Columbia River Highway. Low traffic mid-week made for nice riding once we got beyond the suburbs. We stopped at all the waterfalls and roadside rests to make the most of our time getting out to the campground. We slept out cowboy/cowgirl style. The kids saw their first satellite not too long before I fell asleep. Apparently my daughter was up quite late talking about the sky with Tommy. Didn't stop quite as much on the return trip. One of our few stops was to talk to a father/son duo who were on a PNW bike tour. The dad was on a Box Dog Pelican and the son was 10 years old and carrying is own load. It sounded like they were having a blast. They had gone south along the coast and were going to head north through the mtns. Twenty-Nine hours and 70 miles... overall duration/distance. Pics prove that just 'cause a kid has pedals, doesn't mean they're going to add to forward momentum. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157634786759618/I imagine Tommy will post some pics as well. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So. Cal Vs North Cal. Rivendell Rumble. July 27- 28
Hope sausage is okay with everyone. Imma bring some Keven's coffee. UnderWater for the morning some extra oatmeal stuff that I detest, but will eat. Looking forward to meeting everyone -Manny On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:20:43 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: After a couple of weeks of hashing out the details looks like we have come to a consensus of what's going on. Rivendell Rumble (Cali Edition) July 27-28 Meet at El Chorro campgrounds around 12ish. Various of folks are coming earlier or later feel free to do what cha want. Ride somewhere on that Sunday. Bring food, stories, and your bikes to share. Should be a blast! Anyone want to make a poster of the event I am more then happy to donate one of my photos for a event poster. Also someone needs to add this to the RBW owners bunch calendar. (Totally forgot the link) Let me know if this looks right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rumor is... Manny can break dance.
What a great trip. My 11yo is getting close to wanting this sort of outing. Can't wait. Funny you mention the father-son duo doing a PNW tour. I spoke with them briefly one morning a couple weeks ago while preparing to board the ferry in Port Angeles. I'd noticed them coming down the hill toward the piers, the father's Pelican fishtailing like crazy with a considerable rear load. The son was on a fully-loaded Kona Sutra, if I recall, and looked game for riding cross-country. -- Bob Iowa City -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: unique hand made recycled leather saddles
Interesting idea, Bo! But I don't think it would work. Worn out leather is worn out. And it's too thick to make a good wallet anyway. On Friday, July 19, 2013 9:20:34 PM UTC-4, bo richardson wrote: I have been looking for someone to make wallets out of worn out saddle leather great quality leather and it could be a person's own seat returned to them as a wallet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Looking for Adirondack route suggestions.
I would like to second this request, as I'm also interested in doing some Adirondacks and other upstate NY riding. Kieran Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar
Thanks for the info. Are you saying that the bike is better suited to carry weight on the rear rack, rather than front? I notice that Velo Orange (low trail) shows its Polyvalent with a front rack or basket. Just curious. Thanks for the pics. On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:22:00 AM UTC-5, shawn m. wrote: Peter, Your resurrection of this thread is timely, in a way. This past weekend I took the Hunqapillar on an overnight trip from Seattle to Port Townsend. My route was a conscious choice of more climbing for less traffic, so I became pretty intimate with how it climbs, and how I climb, too. I had spinal neurosurgery in June and this was the first big ride since, and given that recovery had compromised some of my fitness there was some concern that all those hill might very well wear me out. And they mostly did, too, but I made it. The bike was very comfortable and stable climbing, and with a couple of exceptions I was able to stay in the middle ring. I was carrying approximately 10 lbs. in the front basket and that load up high made for a noticeable wobble when climbing out of the saddle; nothing unpredictable or overly flexy, but you could feel it's effect on handling. Descents were pretty much all grins and wahoos, though. Overall, I love the Hunqapillar. We're carfree so it gets ridden daily for transportation/utility, and it's always a joy. Living in Seattle I can't go anywhere without climbing a hill, and frankly if my beat-up physiognomy can ride it up the hills, I'm confident that you won't be disappointed either. For context, I'm 47, 5'9, 175, lifetime unracer, recovered mountain biker, infrequent tourer. If you're on the fence about a Hunqapillar, I say dive in. As the others here can attest, it's a wonderful bicycle. A couple pics of my 'camping' trip to Port Townsend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157634765980946/ I should mention that I didn't actually DO any camping. I ran into old friends in PT who took me to dinner, bought me beers, and made me a warm bed for the night. That's a first-class campout in my book! Cheers, Shawn M. Seattle, WA (Fremont) On Monday, July 22, 2013 1:57:25 PM UTC-7, Peter wrote: Shawn, Thanks for these great looking photos. How's the bike working out for you? How is it on hills? I love looking at your photos, very tempted to buy one, but concerned if I'm strong enough to ride it on steep hills, whether it would wear me out or not. Would appreciate a report if you see this and have time to respond. All best, Peter D. On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:22 PM UTC-5, shawn m. wrote: While I'm still smarting from the loss of my beloved Hillborne (long story, things happen, ends well), I'm more than a little consoled by the addition of a 54cm Hunqapillar in my life. It's built up from the parts from my Sam; virtually everything moved right over, right down to the Honjos (an aside: fenders took longer than the rest of the build all together and the front fender line is still a work in progress). I rode out to Golden Gardens to snap some pix of it's virginal purity, which if you're interested you can find here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157631600410033/ It's a lovely riding bicycle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 7/19 BLUG broken Sam
Hello, I am immensely relieved to hear that this worked. I had SKS fenders installed on my build at Rivendell (Jared assured me they are quite precise about this installation) and, having researched this, I was glad to know that SKS fenders have the QR feature. I do have the Secu-Clip on the front fender (went directly to the bike garage to check this upon reading these posts and verify), The fronts are close hauled at the rear flap and have more generous spacing as they circle the wheel toward the front. That being said, and having seen the images on the BLUG, I am now somewhat concerned when I hear anything ride up between fender and wheel. I am almost considering removing the fenders altogether. Best regards, Tom On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:23:53 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: A month or two ago I was piddling along on my bike with SKS fenders with the little QR thingies. I picked up a stick somehow that got slammed into the stays, which popped out of the QR and no problem. Surprised the heck out of me and I had to stop and put the stays back into the QR, but that beats getting tossed over the bars any day! Tim On Jul 23, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Will waller@gmail.com javascript: wrote: It can. It happened to me. Stick followed the tire into the fender. Fender collapsed into fork crown. Immediate endo. Landed on head. Helmets definitely help once in a while. Both blades deformed. Top and down tube deformed. Major pain in rear. Do not ride fenders without release engineering. It's expensive. And no I was not going fast. Will On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:36:37 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: I may be naive, but just can't see how a *stick* could do such damage. I haven't had the displeasure, but imagine it going something like... stick gets sucked, front wheel locks, rapid deceleration, rider over bars and the bike probably leaves the ground relieving the force on the fork. Perhaps the extensive fork damage is the result of a post-stick, high speed impact? http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar
Many thanks for answering. I live in the midwest and would like to have just one do it all bike in all kinds of weather and this might be it . . . or the Same, but I really like the looks of your bike. What tires do you use for all that rain you get? all best. PD On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:22:00 AM UTC-5, shawn m. wrote: Peter, Your resurrection of this thread is timely, in a way. This past weekend I took the Hunqapillar on an overnight trip from Seattle to Port Townsend. My route was a conscious choice of more climbing for less traffic, so I became pretty intimate with how it climbs, and how I climb, too. I had spinal neurosurgery in June and this was the first big ride since, and given that recovery had compromised some of my fitness there was some concern that all those hill might very well wear me out. And they mostly did, too, but I made it. The bike was very comfortable and stable climbing, and with a couple of exceptions I was able to stay in the middle ring. I was carrying approximately 10 lbs. in the front basket and that load up high made for a noticeable wobble when climbing out of the saddle; nothing unpredictable or overly flexy, but you could feel it's effect on handling. Descents were pretty much all grins and wahoos, though. Overall, I love the Hunqapillar. We're carfree so it gets ridden daily for transportation/utility, and it's always a joy. Living in Seattle I can't go anywhere without climbing a hill, and frankly if my beat-up physiognomy can ride it up the hills, I'm confident that you won't be disappointed either. For context, I'm 47, 5'9, 175, lifetime unracer, recovered mountain biker, infrequent tourer. If you're on the fence about a Hunqapillar, I say dive in. As the others here can attest, it's a wonderful bicycle. A couple pics of my 'camping' trip to Port Townsend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157634765980946/ I should mention that I didn't actually DO any camping. I ran into old friends in PT who took me to dinner, bought me beers, and made me a warm bed for the night. That's a first-class campout in my book! Cheers, Shawn M. Seattle, WA (Fremont) On Monday, July 22, 2013 1:57:25 PM UTC-7, Peter wrote: Shawn, Thanks for these great looking photos. How's the bike working out for you? How is it on hills? I love looking at your photos, very tempted to buy one, but concerned if I'm strong enough to ride it on steep hills, whether it would wear me out or not. Would appreciate a report if you see this and have time to respond. All best, Peter D. On Saturday, September 22, 2012 11:35:22 PM UTC-5, shawn m. wrote: While I'm still smarting from the loss of my beloved Hillborne (long story, things happen, ends well), I'm more than a little consoled by the addition of a 54cm Hunqapillar in my life. It's built up from the parts from my Sam; virtually everything moved right over, right down to the Honjos (an aside: fenders took longer than the rest of the build all together and the front fender line is still a work in progress). I rode out to Golden Gardens to snap some pix of it's virginal purity, which if you're interested you can find here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157631600410033/ It's a lovely riding bicycle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB Skewers
A minor complaint, but the skewers on my Rambouillet have black plastic nuts. They're completely functional, but I'm tired of looking down and seeing the plastic. I though of replacing them with some vintage Campy NR/SR skewers, but figure that they would not fit the Ram's 132.5 cm rear spacing. Does anybody have a recommendation for a well-built metal skewer? There are none listed on Riv's store. Anybody have a set for sale? Please reply offline. Thanks, John lindbergj...@hotmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: RAGBRAI
Just ride! Spotted so far -- the Soma, a big orange Ram, a blue Long Low and a stunning deep red Atlantis. And of course our Rams. Lots of 'nice bike' which I think is code for 'your bike is pretty but how can you ride that thing so far?' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: brooks tetkro shimano nitto paul
What's the clamp size on the nitto stem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Bar End Shifter Pods Mounts
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[RBW] Re: Dawn of the Hunqapillar
A really nice build and re-purposing of your components. Now that you have had it for a while, can you tell us more about your impressions of your Hunqapillar? I am a fairly new Sam owner and not about to change it out any time soon, but I am curious about the differences. Best regards, Tom On Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:35:22 PM UTC-7, shawn m. wrote: While I'm still smarting from the loss of my beloved Hillborne (long story, things happen, ends well), I'm more than a little consoled by the addition of a 54cm Hunqapillar in my life. It's built up from the parts from my Sam; virtually everything moved right over, right down to the Honjos (an aside: fenders took longer than the rest of the build all together and the front fender line is still a work in progress). I rode out to Golden Gardens to snap some pix of it's virginal purity, which if you're interested you can find here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45524179@N08/sets/72157631600410033/ It's a lovely riding bicycle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Fancy modern nitto rack
dougP and others, Can anyone say if there is a natural or built-in way to attach a tail light to the R26? I have no direct experience with the Nitto racks, but in the pictures I have seen, there has not been an obvious mount point. All help appreciated, Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem 100/26.0
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[RBW] Re: So. Cal Vs North Cal. Rivendell Rumble. July 27- 28
Och, Manny! Just eat/cook once a day. It makes camping/life so much easier. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, July 25, 2013 5:20:47 PM UTC-6, Manuel Acosta wrote: Hope sausage is okay with everyone. Imma bring some Keven's coffee. UnderWater for the morning some extra oatmeal stuff that I detest, but will eat. Looking forward to meeting everyone -Manny On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:20:43 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: After a couple of weeks of hashing out the details looks like we have come to a consensus of what's going on. Rivendell Rumble (Cali Edition) July 27-28 Meet at El Chorro campgrounds around 12ish. Various of folks are coming earlier or later feel free to do what cha want. Ride somewhere on that Sunday. Bring food, stories, and your bikes to share. Should be a blast! Anyone want to make a poster of the event I am more then happy to donate one of my photos for a event poster. Also someone needs to add this to the RBW owners bunch calendar. (Totally forgot the link) Let me know if this looks right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride, with photos
Not totally sure, but since the upgrade, Flickr doesn't work well with my laptop and often freezes the machine. In generally I don't post much there anymore because of this. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Philip: what's the problem with Flickr? A month or so ago there was much anguish on the CR list due to a new interface, but I hear it is still less messed-with than Google+/ex-Picassa. Someone suggested Ipernity -- any comments on that one? On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Signing up for Flickr now is like attending UC Santa Cruz in the early Nineties. Withered old men of 45 riding expensive mountain bikes will tell you how great things were in the old days. Do it, but be prepared. Gird your loins. Philip (ask me how I know) www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:08:09 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, fu*k Google+. I'll sign up for flickr. Photos attached; all deleted from G. Google: please snoop my emails and find my comments about G+. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:52 PM, bobish bob...@gmail.com wrote: Page says I can't see pics unless I join g+. This isn't the first time. Not joining so I guess I'll learn to do without. It's become a bone of contention now. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone mounted a rear fender on rear brake bridge bottom screw hole?
I was also quite confused with how to go about installing metal fenders, until I read an article on BQ by Jan Heine and Peter Weigle. It was published in Bicycle Quarterly Vol. 9, No. 2 (Winter 2010). Definitely read it through before undertaking the project. It's really by far the best fender installation guide I've seen. Chris On Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:32:54 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Thanks for the help everyone. I just love this Sam frame with all the cool eyelets, etc. I hope to try it this weekend. Thanks for all the help! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Wanted: Bicycle Times Issue 1
Anyone have the first issue of Bicycle Times. It is unavailable via the company and it is the only issue I am missing. I have crazy bad OCD and the missing issue is driving me nuts. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Just got my Hillborne today and spent a few hours on it. It's rocking the new thin Gripsters and I was instantly impressed. As a long time Grip Kings user I am shocked to find a pedal I actually like a little more. I had my bike originally spec'd to have the Gip Kings but changes my mind at the last second. I am very glad that I did. On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:14:30 PM UTC-4, William wrote: I'm running my first pair of Thin Gripsters. I like them a lot so far. They really do grab well. The MKS Sneakers and the Grip Kings both have kind of a concave area in the middle that I had gotten used to, so the Thin Gripsters being MUCH flatter almost felt convex at first, but I've grown accustomed. I might drop my saddle a couple mm. They are so thin they made my saddle feel higher. So far, thumbs up! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Once in a while, due to bad bump or a wildly missed shift, my feet come off the thin gripsters. I think I'll try a set of the FRS straps, just to see... http://holdfastordie.com/store/foot-retention-system - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Aha -- from the shoes ruse to no retention to missed footing to retention! Patrick Moore, loyally using SPDs and Looks with nary a foot wrong in ABQ, NM. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Once in a while, due to bad bump or a wildly missed shift, my feet come off the thin gripsters. I think I'll try a set of the FRS straps, just to see... http://holdfastordie.com/store/foot-retention-system - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Thin gripsters are great. Unless I am riding fixed gear its really not that huge a deal if my foot comes off on a big bump or errant gear change. On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Aha -- from the shoes ruse to no retention to missed footing to retention! Patrick Moore, loyally using SPDs and Looks with nary a foot wrong in ABQ, NM. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Once in a while, due to bad bump or a wildly missed shift, my feet come off the thin gripsters. I think I'll try a set of the FRS straps, just to see... http://holdfastordie.com/store/foot-retention-system - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Patrick Moore, challenging the conventional orthodoxy with SPDs and Looks in ABQ, NM ... On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Homer Simpson uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Thin gripsters are great. Unless I am riding fixed gear its really not that huge a deal if my foot comes off on a big bump or errant gear change. On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Aha -- from the shoes ruse to no retention to missed footing to retention! Patrick Moore, loyally using SPDs and Looks with nary a foot wrong in ABQ, NM. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Once in a while, due to bad bump or a wildly missed shift, my feet come off the thin gripsters. I think I'll try a set of the FRS straps, just to see... http://holdfastordie.com/store/foot-retention-system - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Thin Gripsters are cool
Why did google plus change my actual name to Homer Simpson? God I hate google. On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Moore, challenging the conventional orthodoxy with SPDs and Looks in ABQ, NM ... On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Homer Simpson uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Thin gripsters are great. Unless I am riding fixed gear its really not that huge a deal if my foot comes off on a big bump or errant gear change. On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Aha -- from the shoes ruse to no retention to missed footing to retention! Patrick Moore, loyally using SPDs and Looks with nary a foot wrong in ABQ, NM. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:52 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: Once in a while, due to bad bump or a wildly missed shift, my feet come off the thin gripsters. I think I'll try a set of the FRS straps, just to see... http://holdfastordie.com/store/foot-retention-system - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
