[RBW] Re: Small Saddlesack for Carrying a Laptop?

2013-09-27 Thread Philip Williamson
I have a basket on an M12, which is fantastic, but if I wanted to carry a 
laptop, I'd probably hang a saddlebag off the handlebars. I do put my iPad 
in a saddlebag-on-the-bars, but also in a Grab Sack in the basket. I have 
tallish (60cm) bikes, so there's lots of room to suspend a bag without it 
hitting a rack or fender. 

The other answer for sluggish steering on a porteur setup is to re-rake the 
fork, but I only know about that through the internet.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, jar351 wrote:

 Hmm. I'm thinking that even if the laptop's in a protective sleeve, 
 repeated bumping is still a bad thing. I thought that if the strap 
 attaching the saddlesack to the seatpost were tight enough, there'd be no 
 bumping, but it seems I was wrong, eh? Now that I look more closely at the 
 photos on the Riv site, it does seem as if that strap is too high on the 
 bag to keep anything in the very bottom from swinging back and forth a 
 little.

 I might be with CoconutBill here in thinking that a pannier is perhaps a 
 more stable place for a laptop. It's just that that would require me to get 
 a rear rack *as well as* a pannier. I'm trying to keep costs reasonable 
 here.

 I'm also starting to wonder whether an M-12 rack + basket might be a good 
 option. It'll be similar to the porteur rack setup but with two possibly 
 significant differences: 1) it'll be a little lighter than the porteur 
 rack, and 2) it'll bring the load back a little toward the headtube. I 
 believe that both of these differences are good in terms of steering 
 quality, no?

 Lastly, it occurred to me that some of the unwieldiness might be due to 
 the shape of the stem on the bike (a high-rise, dirt drop model). Maybe 
 switching out the stem for a Technomic would help things in that regard? 
 I'm lucky enough to have a 100mm one lying around.

 Andre

 On Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:23:16 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote:

 I've carried a 13 macbook air in a small saddlesack and it works out 
 provided you've got a nice protective sleeve around the laptop.  Depending 
 on your bike's geometry and saddle position it can repeatedly bump against 
 the seatpost or the top lip of a rear rack.  Space wise however it's 
 fantastic as it just lies flat against the plastic coroplast at the bottom 
 and leaves plenty of space for clothes, food, random things

 On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:52:52 PM UTC-7, Coconutbill wrote:

 If I am carrying the laptop up front, it's on my platrack (in the 
 slickersack), and it feels OK, but maybe it would feel sluggish just like 
 her porteur rack set-up.
 Only yesterday did I realize that the inner sleeve of my Carsick 
 panniers can fit a 13' macbook . It feels much better to me having the 
 macbook's weight lower and in the back.

 -Evan



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[RBW] Re: Randonnerding totally loaded in Vermont and New Hampshire

2013-09-27 Thread Matt Beebe
Bobby, if you end up planning another trip to NH and VT next year count me 
in.


On Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:42:31 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Actually,Norm I had a great ride to the Kingdom planned for late 
 September/early October with a good friend from Sonoma, but he couldn't 
 make it back East. We even planned a stop at the Hill Farmstead in 
 Greensboro Bend, where Shaun Hill is brewing up some world-class beers, *(and 
 we all know beer and bike culture go together so well)*.  I also planned 
 to take advantage of the great snowmobile trails; it's such a gorgeous 
 area, definitely future Riv Rally territory... For now I'll have to 
 experience it (vicariously) through Matt B. Thanks for sharing the great 
 photos, Matt!!!

 It hasn't been a total bust, however... I did make it up to Grand Isle 2 
 weeks ago, where I enjoyed some great riding and had the pleasure of 
 attending a beer event at my brother's house, co-hosted by local beer hero 
 Sean Lawson (Lawson's Finest Liquids)... *a most righteous brewer is he...
 *

 Peace,
 Bobby 

 On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:38:27 PM UTC-4, Norman R wrote:

 Thanks for the report and photos.  I rode in that area for about a week 
 20-25 years ago and it was/is a perfect bike riding location.  Perhaps 
 Montclair Bobby B. or someone else more local could think about putting 
 together a Riv.RideEast?
 Norman

 On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:02:17 AM UTC-4, Matt Beebe wrote:

 Hi All, just thought I'd share some photos from a recent ride to 
 Vermont.I went to the Northeast Kingdom to visit friends not far from 
 the Canadian border, and took a nice route to get there and back.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/43029278@N07/sets/72157635839369194/

 There are many, many miles of dirt road and snowmobile/ATV trails on the 
 way up there, some smooth, some rocky, but all fun.   Even the paved roads 
 are nice.   The scenery was gorgeous, and the leaves had begun to change 
 already, especially north of White River Junction.The small towns and 
 nice people in Vermont are the best.

 The bike handled perfectly, and the only thing that rattled loose was my 
 mudflap(!) toward the end of the trip on a particularly bumpy section. 
 You may notice I only have one water bottle, but that's because I prefer 
 dromedary bags for carrying most of my water-  the bottle is just a more 
 convenient vessel to drink from :)  

 This was my first fully loaded ride using moustache bars and the Nitto 
 Large back rack, which I bought from Riv a while ago-I had been using a 
 Tubus Cargo prior to this.I found the M-bars to be fantastic for 
 all-day riding.  I had used them before for ~2 hour rides on my QB and 
 reckoned they'd be good for touring, but have always just stuck with 
 Noodles since I know they work well for me. This ride convinced me that 
 M-bars give plenty of hand positions for comfort and work well on bumpy 
 terrain when riding somewhat heavily loaded.   You do need a short stem 
 with M-bars though.

 My only (minor) complaint about the Nitto rack is that platform is much 
 too far back behind the rear axle, and it is difficult to get weight far 
 enough forward with it due to the tombstone being so far back.Sliding 
 the mounting points forward at the top results in the rack tilting forward 
 at an odd angle.   This is strange to me since I ride relatively large 
 frames, and most racks (especially non-adjustable ones) end up tilting 
 backward because of the steep angle of my seat-stays.  The Nitto seems more 
 geared toward frames with ultra-short chainstays, or super-tall frames.
 BUT it is still a ridiculously nice rack though, and I have like 5 inches 
 of heel clearance with it (size 10's) so if you have large feet/ heel 
 clearance issues with your rack it would be a good option.I may go back 
 to the Tubus for future loaded riding, as it seems ideally suited to frames 
 in my size in terms of where the platform is located.I also really like 
 an R14 with the large saddlesack when not riding with panniers.

 Anyway hope you enjoy the photos.

 Matt



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[RBW] Re: Sweet - Good Thing

2013-09-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Heeyy! Why don't I ever get to be the mild-mannered writer with 
hair? Huh?

With abandon,
Patrick, who has to wear a hat to protect air traffic from blinding 
signal-mirror-like-forehead-reflection and considers flying overrated 
because it's for the birds. And this suit? Man, the pressure (literal and 
social) to not have another __ to eat is wounding me and possibly 
stunting my kid's growth AND it's not even a wool blend (I have to wash it 
EVERY day).

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:17:13 PM UTC-6, IanA wrote:

 What if they're the same person?  Deacon Patrick could be the 
 alter-superhero-opposite-hair-parting-ego of ABQ Patrick??  

 Ian A
 Capeless in Edmonton AB Canada

 On Thursday, September 26, 2013 6:04:52 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 You can tell them apart by their sign-offs:

 Deacon Patrick always signs off:

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 Patrick Moore signs off in more *varied* ways, like for instance:

 sincerely,

 Patrick-who-in-the-drops-which-are-parallel-to-terra-ferma-as-God-decreed-on-the-curt-build-joe-modified-custom-rode-the-four-tenths-mile-hill-despite-the-stiff-headwind-nevermind-the-G-D-goatheads-in-the-76-inch-gear-in-true-meditative-tempo-out-of-the-saddle-which-is-a-new-old-stock-turbo-at-13.43mph-average-which-is-3.43mph-faster-than-the-newly-svelte-fargo-despite-17.3lbs-of-groceries-and-books-biased-65%-front-35%-rear-Moore
  

 On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:14:41 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I've only ever had a Hunqapillar. That is ABQ Patrick. We look alike, at 
 least by text. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick



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[RBW] Re: Night ride, with glasses and encounters with animals

2013-09-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic, me! In my Greenspeed trike days I loved riding the early morning 
(3-4 am) for the quiet that existed then on the roads. But now I have a 
bike that does single track, I'm happy as a pig in mud on the trails in 
daylight (and wouldn't consider riding these puppies at night). Glad your, 
er, our, lights are working out!

I don't wear glasses either, but probably should, bolstering the rummers 
that are starting to spread. I sure hope they only take it as internet 
chatter, because if they every knew the truth...! Now this was just a 
reply to sender post, right? Google is my Kryptonite, as you know.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:27:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I took my first real night ride in quite a while -- full, moonless 
 night as opposed to dusk. I was very pleased to reacquaint myself with 
 the SON 20R/Edeluxe combination -- enough light for normal cruising 
 speeds on a sometimes twisting path even for my poor night vision. 

 But I did wear prescription glasses to ride for the first time in, 
 what, 12 years? Not a current prescription, but certainly better than 
 nothing (I will eventually get around to seeing an optometrist). It's 
 a good thing I did wear them, since at about mile 7 I found myself 
 rapidly closing on a trundling mammal of some sort -- a slow, bulky 
 raccoon is my guess, unless it was Ryan Watson's cat on the run. 

 Then at mile ~ 11 I scared off a small, probably young -- it looked 
 less battered than most -- coh YOH teh; again, it would have been a 
 closer encounter without the lenses. 

 Patrick Moore, 18.84 miles on the '03 Curt in a 70 gear, never 
 straying much from a flat 5,000 feet while alternately battling and 
 enjoying a SSW wind gusting to 20 mph at roughly 35* N and 107* W in 
 ABQ, NM. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Night ride, with glasses and encounters with animals

2013-09-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Greenspeed?? You mean Ken Rogers!

With abandon, Patrick (grin)

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
 Fantastic, me! In my Greenspeed trike days I loved riding the early morning
 (3-4 am) for the quiet that existed then on the roads. But now I have a bike
 that does single track, I'm happy as a pig in mud on the trails in daylight
 (and wouldn't consider riding these puppies at night). Glad your, er, our,
 lights are working out!

 I don't wear glasses either, but probably should, bolstering the rummers
 that are starting to spread. I sure hope they only take it as internet
 chatter, because if they every knew the truth...! Now this was just a reply
 to sender post, right? Google is my Kryptonite, as you know.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:27:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I took my first real night ride in quite a while -- full, moonless
 night as opposed to dusk. I was very pleased to reacquaint myself with
 the SON 20R/Edeluxe combination -- enough light for normal cruising
 speeds on a sometimes twisting path even for my poor night vision.

 But I did wear prescription glasses to ride for the first time in,
 what, 12 years? Not a current prescription, but certainly better than
 nothing (I will eventually get around to seeing an optometrist). It's
 a good thing I did wear them, since at about mile 7 I found myself
 rapidly closing on a trundling mammal of some sort -- a slow, bulky
 raccoon is my guess, unless it was Ryan Watson's cat on the run.

 Then at mile ~ 11 I scared off a small, probably young -- it looked
 less battered than most -- coh YOH teh; again, it would have been a
 closer encounter without the lenses.

 Patrick Moore, 18.84 miles on the '03 Curt in a 70 gear, never
 straying much from a flat 5,000 feet while alternately battling and
 enjoying a SSW wind gusting to 20 mph at roughly 35* N and 107* W in
 ABQ, NM.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Sam H. pinched dropout repair advice?

2013-09-27 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
The Mystery Bike arrived with a bent drive side dropout (I think UPS gave it a 
too-healthy whack at some point in its voyage from Walnut Creek to Wilmington.  
Anyway, I just put a towel over it, saddled up a big pipe wrench on the dropout 
over the towel, and bent it back slowly.  Didn't even disturb the paint, and 
everything works and shift swimmingly.

Because it's steel

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:35 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Sam H. pinched dropout repair advice?

All good advice, I'd say. Also, way to go, Eric, for the crowbar fix.

On this one, if it's not even eyeballable, measure the difference, and consider 
a file.
G

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:16:25 PM UTC-7, cbone97 wrote:
I'm preparing to build up the Sam H. I bought used here now that my tires, 
cables n' stuff are in from Riv.

Some time after the frame was delivered I noticed I could slide the rear hub in 
because the drive side is pinched shut just a tiny amount.  You can't
tell by looking at it.  Could've happened in shipping, I don't think the seller 
knew, and it really doesn't matter.  I just want it fixed.

In harnessing the power of allmighty google, it looks like most folks suggest 
just gently leveraging the dropout back open.

Any experience or advice with this?  I'm not afraid to try, primarily just 
wondering if I should apply heat or if there's a better method.  I wanna be 
careful not to open the  dropout too much.

Thanks in advance. Hopefully I'll post pics of my first Riv beautifying the 
Katy trail soon.
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RE: [RBW] Sam H. pinched dropout repair advice?

2013-09-27 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I should have said that I did use the DAG-2 to make sure I had gotten it back 
where it belonged

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Sam H. pinched dropout repair advice?

You will want to use the Park Tool DAG-2 to align the hanger after gently 
spreading the dropout to spec. Probably a job for a good shop.The dropout is 
malleable and will be fine, done right.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Eric Daume 
ericda...@gmail.commailto:ericda...@gmail.com wrote:
I had a custom frame that came with a dropout that was pretty severely 
pinched--maybe down to 7mm or so, where it should be 10. I just took a prybar, 
padded it with a rag, and went at it:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/frNJ7s6ARvifc5kfr3C8UNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
Eric
Dublin, OH

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:16 PM, cbone97 
cbon...@gmail.commailto:cbon...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm preparing to build up the Sam H. I bought used here now that my tires, 
cables n' stuff are in from Riv.

Some time after the frame was delivered I noticed I could slide the rear hub in 
because the drive side is pinched shut just a tiny amount.  You can't
tell by looking at it.  Could've happened in shipping, I don't think the seller 
knew, and it really doesn't matter.  I just want it fixed.

In harnessing the power of allmighty google, it looks like most folks suggest 
just gently leveraging the dropout back open.

Any experience or advice with this?  I'm not afraid to try, primarily just 
wondering if I should apply heat or if there's a better method.  I wanna be 
careful not to open the  dropout too much.

Thanks in advance. Hopefully I'll post pics of my first Riv beautifying the 
Katy trail soon.
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[RBW] Fenders, dammit!

2013-09-27 Thread Patrick Moore
It must be a supernatural truth: removing fenders brings rain, adding
them brings sunshine.

Last night, after 2 weeks of sun and the calendar end of the monsoon
at the end of September, not to mention no forecast of any real
chancer of rain in the forseable future,I removed the fenders from the
Curt. Had that nice night ride.

Today: rain threatening.

Earlier: after almost record breaking rains in late July and August
(after a 3 year severe drought -- my mother's west side of the city
got exactly 0.1 between Jan and June of this year; av citywide
something like 1), we had 2 weeks of sun in early Sept. Removed
fenders. Immediately got a week of record breaking rain. Put them back
on. Two weeks of sun as mentioned above.k

Sheesh!

Patrick no I will *not* simply leave the fenders all on year Moore
in clouding up ABQ, NM.

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Re: [RBW] Fenders, dammit!

2013-09-27 Thread Lee Chae
Glass half full, it seems like you might have a nice little side business
there.

Lee


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 It must be a supernatural truth: removing fenders brings rain, adding
 them brings sunshine.

 Last night, after 2 weeks of sun and the calendar end of the monsoon
 at the end of September, not to mention no forecast of any real
 chancer of rain in the forseable future,I removed the fenders from the
 Curt. Had that nice night ride.

 Today: rain threatening.

 Earlier: after almost record breaking rains in late July and August
 (after a 3 year severe drought -- my mother's west side of the city
 got exactly 0.1 between Jan and June of this year; av citywide
 something like 1), we had 2 weeks of sun in early Sept. Removed
 fenders. Immediately got a week of record breaking rain. Put them back
 on. Two weeks of sun as mentioned above.k

 Sheesh!

 Patrick no I will *not* simply leave the fenders all on year Moore
 in clouding up ABQ, NM.

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Re: [RBW] Fenders, dammit!

2013-09-27 Thread Tom Virgil
Removing your fenders, cleaning your bike, and washing your car will bring 
on a deluge.  

On Friday, September 27, 2013 9:39:13 AM UTC-7, Lee Chae wrote:

 Glass half full, it seems like you might have a nice little side business 
 there.

 Lee


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  wrote:

 It must be a supernatural truth: removing fenders brings rain, adding
 them brings sunshine.

 Last night, after 2 weeks of sun and the calendar end of the monsoon
 at the end of September, not to mention no forecast of any real
 chancer of rain in the forseable future,I removed the fenders from the
 Curt. Had that nice night ride.

 Today: rain threatening.

 Earlier: after almost record breaking rains in late July and August
 (after a 3 year severe drought -- my mother's west side of the city
 got exactly 0.1 between Jan and June of this year; av citywide
 something like 1), we had 2 weeks of sun in early Sept. Removed
 fenders. Immediately got a week of record breaking rain. Put them back
 on. Two weeks of sun as mentioned above.k

 Sheesh!

 Patrick no I will *not* simply leave the fenders all on year Moore
 in clouding up ABQ, NM.

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[RBW] Re: Barefoot Friendly Pedals

2013-09-27 Thread Deacon Patrick
The VP Vice were waiting patiently for me when I got back yesterday from a 
S30O (I'll post pics later). Removing all the pins was a job that gave me 
my manual dexterity therapy for a year. That's a lot of un-screwing around 
I had to do!

Rode them my short ride up to the falls (3 miles round trip, hefty 
climb/descent mostly on paved roads). Wow. They feel really good as is 
without adding any leather. I may need to file down some edges a a wee bit 
if that reveals itself a problem on longer rides or with more extreme 
climbing, but I may have found a barefoot friendly pedal that doesn't need 
altering. After getting them, I also realized there is more support for the 
outside of the foot vs. 001s because the axel runs all the way through.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] PORTLAND: Eastside Triple Bump Tour, 10am

2013-09-27 Thread Christopher Chen
Tomorrow's Eastside Triple Bump Ride will also be a wet one! Bring your
rain gear! 10am, in front of Palio on Ladd Circle.

This ride is not a loop.

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[RBW] Re: Fenders, dammit!

2013-09-27 Thread Michael Hechmer
Patrick, I'm sure that many people in NM are happy for the sacrifices you 
are willing to make. I for one am in awe of your generosity and 
perseverance.  In Vt all I need to do to bring on rain is wash the car. 
This year just riding a bike, with or without fenders, has been enough to 
gather clouds together.

Michael
Westford, VT

On Friday, September 27, 2013 12:34:58 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 It must be a supernatural truth: removing fenders brings rain, adding 
 them brings sunshine. 

 Last night, after 2 weeks of sun and the calendar end of the monsoon 
 at the end of September, not to mention no forecast of any real 
 chancer of rain in the forseable future,I removed the fenders from the 
 Curt. Had that nice night ride. 

 Today: rain threatening. 

 Earlier: after almost record breaking rains in late July and August 
 (after a 3 year severe drought -- my mother's west side of the city 
 got exactly 0.1 between Jan and June of this year; av citywide 
 something like 1), we had 2 weeks of sun in early Sept. Removed 
 fenders. Immediately got a week of record breaking rain. Put them back 
 on. Two weeks of sun as mentioned above.k 

 Sheesh! 

 Patrick no I will *not* simply leave the fenders all on year Moore 
 in clouding up ABQ, NM. 

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Re: [RBW] Fenders, dammit!

2013-09-27 Thread Ron Mc
fender bike; fast bike - of course, it never rains

On Friday, September 27, 2013 11:46:53 AM UTC-5, Tom Virgil wrote:

 Removing your fenders, cleaning your bike, and washing your car will bring 
 on a deluge.  

 On Friday, September 27, 2013 9:39:13 AM UTC-7, Lee Chae wrote:

 Glass half full, it seems like you might have a nice little side business 
 there.

 Lee


 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote:

 It must be a supernatural truth: removing fenders brings rain, adding
 them brings sunshine.

 Last night, after 2 weeks of sun and the calendar end of the monsoon
 at the end of September, not to mention no forecast of any real
 chancer of rain in the forseable future,I removed the fenders from the
 Curt. Had that nice night ride.

 Today: rain threatening.

 Earlier: after almost record breaking rains in late July and August
 (after a 3 year severe drought -- my mother's west side of the city
 got exactly 0.1 between Jan and June of this year; av citywide
 something like 1), we had 2 weeks of sun in early Sept. Removed
 fenders. Immediately got a week of record breaking rain. Put them back
 on. Two weeks of sun as mentioned above.k

 Sheesh!

 Patrick no I will *not* simply leave the fenders all on year Moore
 in clouding up ABQ, NM.

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[RBW] Re: Gold Fish Ride, Mt.Diablo 9/29

2013-09-27 Thread allenmichael
Regrettably I won't be able to make it. Have a great ride.

Michael Allen

On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:11:26 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 So I called and Gap Fire road a private road that DOESN't connect to 
 Prospector Gap. 
 So instead. Doing the Gold Fish Ride.

 9/29 930ish at Walut Creek Bart.
 Proposed route.
 http://goo.gl/maps/ZEPaS

 Jenny Oh did a great write up and took pictures a couple of months ago, 
 maybe a year.
 http://www.plattyjo.com/dirty-diablo-revisited-with-ride-on/

 Hope to see yall there.


 On Monday, September 16, 2013 10:27:38 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Looking to do a mixed terrain ride from Concord BART through Morgan 
 Territory and over the backside of DIablo.
 This ride is stemming from wanting to see the damage done by the recent 
 fire on Mt.Diablo and later on hoping to take pictures of the recovery.

 Pretty much everything from the new article makes me want to do this ride.

 http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wildlife-winners-losers-in-Mt-Diablo-fire-4807527.php

 Going into unknown territory (pun intended) but what I have heard the 
 backside of Diablo is stupid steep and rutty. 

 Theres a reason why the backside of Diablo isn't really well ridden but 
 alas that doesn't matter to me. 
 Looks to be a tough ride with good amount of elevation with no food to 
 buy for lunch time. 
 Which means somewhere in the rumble or maybe the top of somewhere there 
 will be some communal food sharing.

 Again pretty sure this counts as a hard ride. Maybe. I don't know
 Here's the proposed route for those that are interested.
 http://goo.gl/maps/vpqa2

 Proposed time would 830amish. To beat the heat.

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[RBW] September SoCal Riv Ride Santa Monica -- Tomorrow --

2013-09-27 Thread cyclotourist
I'm sick and under-slept, but my bike is ready!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/9725959335/
Seriously though, still getting over a cold that everyone in SoCal
seems to have or have had, and spend the night with a sick kid 
cleaning up the contents of said kid's g-i system. Took today off to
recuperate from both! Did strip down mi bici and put on the
knobbies... can't go wrong with knobbies. Plus this wheelset has a 34T
cog in the back I'm sure to use!

Looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow and riding what I consider
to be my favorite ride in the Southland!

On 9/21/13, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi James,

 Glad to hear you're in.

 Couple of things, I spoke with Aaron a West side local and he explained
 that the climb is rigorous with some technical sections, he said there is a

 bail out point if needed. I personally have never ridden this ride but am
 game what ever the ride is..  *This is a no rider left behind relaxed lots
 of stops for water, snacks, breather, bike geeking and of course photo
 opportunities Riv ride.*.DISCLAIMER: *This ride will most likely take
 approximately 5-6 hours to complete not that that's a bad thing just
 saying.
 *

 Where to meet up? At Peets' on *14th  Montana in Santa Monica @ 9 am with
 a soft ride out at 9:30 am* . This is street parking so check the signs. We

 can always find a parking garage as a last resort.

 Aaron  James can you shoot me an email with your phone numbers.

 ~Hugh

 On Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:58:29 AM UTC-7, chocotaco wrote:

 Good Morning Team:

 I might have missed it, but have a final starting point and departure time

 been chosen? I have no strong preference, but I am hoping to join you.

 Thanks,

 James Black
 Los Angeles, CA

 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:47:00 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 SoCal Rivsters,

 Created a poll for date and time for the Santa Monica Palisades dirt
 ride. I included Sunday's so as to include Bryan. If we do a choose a
 Sunday, I will need to start early like 8 am and be done by 12
 noon...food
 for me but I'll be brew fasting, of course not you.

 Here's the poll:

 http://doodle.com/9rwysqgz8bkudhft

 Looking forward to another awesome ride.

 ~Hugh



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[RBW] Re: September SoCal Riv Ride Santa Monica -- Tomorrow --

2013-09-27 Thread hsmitham
David,

Glad to hear you're making it. And glad you posted a refresher to remind 
all those so inclined that were meeting Saturday at 14th  Montana Peet's 
coffee @ 9am with a ride out at 9:30ish Most of you have my number so if 
you're running late give me a ring and we'll wait. Look forward to riding 
with you all.

~Hugh




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[RBW] Re: September SoCal Riv Ride Santa Monica -- Tomorrow --

2013-09-27 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm going to miss out. I ran a fever until yesterday and am still feeling 
wiped out.   There must be some bad karma on this route as I've missed it 
once before.

~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: September SoCal Riv Ride Santa Monica -- Tomorrow --

2013-09-27 Thread cyclotourist
We've gotta' get you healthy so you can start enjoying those bikes!!!
Will miss you tomorrow, but hopefully we can have a SD ride in the
near future!

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 I'm going to miss out. I ran a fever until yesterday and am still feeling
 wiped out.   There must be some bad karma on this route as I've missed it
 once before.

 ~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: September SoCal Riv Ride Santa Monica -- Tomorrow --

2013-09-27 Thread Esteban
I'll be there. Only thing that could stand in my way is the reliability of my 
'93 240. That's two-four-zero as in Volvo, not the camping o variety. 
Bringing the Protovelo! You will be dropped by me and my camping bike. Kids are 
sick and I had a weird work week  - who cares!?

Esteban

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