[RBW] Re: 650B Question
Here's one of the test articles. You would have to purchase the back issue to see all the results I guess. Don't know if they tested the Col de la vie after all, but they mention the Swifty tire here as being 20% slower than the fastest tire. Of course, that only matters if you race, or are concerned about ease of turning the wheels. The upside is that Swiftys are cushy and stable and have puncture protected sidewalls and tread and have one of the coolest looking treads around. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/bicycle-quarterly-performance-of-tires/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Question
650B is in the 26 family. 26 x 1 3/8 size tubes work well. Also 27.5 MTB. An example here: http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/kenda-standard-weight-650b-275-inch-tube On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: My first 650B bike is on the way, and I'm getting everything ready for its arrival (saddle, bar tape, bags, etc,). The only stumbling block so far has been innertubes. Even the best-stocked bike shop in town (we have seven here in Davis) doesn't carry tubes specifically for 650B. So ... If 650B tubes aren't available, what flavor of 26 or 700 should I get? Is there a brand/size that works better? I'll be riding tires somewhere around 38 in width. Thanks in advance! –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bridgestone motorcycle
Those were built by Bridgestone in the late '60s. They were kinda sorta popular for a while, but Bridgestone gave up on their little two-stroke dream shortly after the four-stroke Honda CB750 took over the world. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, December 19, 2013 9:17:24 AM UTC-8, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote: Hey All, I was perusing the local CL yesterday and came upon this http://redding.craigslist.org/mcy/4248714400.html Who knew? Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB-Bleroit 51/53cm
Was the long low a preview of what became the Atlantis? That is a good looking bike, I love the RBW head badge! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Have a great ride! Curtis On Thursday, December 19, 2013, Coconutbill wrote: Feel better, BigSchill ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: WTB-Bleroit 51/53cm
On 12/20/2013 07:15 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Was the long low a preview of what became the Atlantis? That is a good looking bike, I love the RBW head badge! No, that was the All-Rounder; the Rambouillet had Long-Low geometry. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Question
On 12/20/2013 05:31 AM, Bruce Herbitter wrote: 650B is in the 26 family. 26 x 1 3/8 size tubes work well. I've never seen a Presta version of a 26 x 1 3/8 tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Question
Wouldn’t this work: http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/continental-26-x-1-25-1-75-42mm-presta-valve-tube On Dec 20, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 12/20/2013 05:31 AM, Bruce Herbitter wrote: 650B is in the 26 family. 26 x 1 3/8 size tubes work well. I've never seen a Presta version of a 26 x 1 3/8 tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Question
On 12/20/2013 12:42 AM, Michael wrote: Welcome to the wonderland of 650b wheels/tires! My first 650b was a Bleriot, too! I'll save you a lot of time and boil it down for you. I,too, live in a 650b-free LBS zone and have had to forage for tubes. 1. Just get the tubes from rivbike.com or compasscycle.com. It is worth it to just get them. Throw one into each order you make in the future to keep them in stock. *To save you time in the inevitable search for better tires:* *This is the state of 650b tires as of 12/20/2013 (as far as I have researched):* 1. Regarded as the fastest and comfortablest 650b tires: Grand Bois Hetres and Grand Bois Cypress. Sold at compasscycle.com. Pari-Motos may be a close second, but I hear they have a bad flatting record? In my experience, the Pari Moto is a fast, comfortable tire. It is considered an event tire, i.e. made to be fast but not to last very long. The tread is quite thin and will wear out quickly compared to tires with a thicker tread. It's hard to generalize from one person's experience, but my track record with flats with the Pari Moto is quite good, especially for a thin-treaded event tire. Similar tires such as the Parigi-Roubaix and the Cerf Extra Leger had many more flats per mile than the Pari Moto. The Hutchinson 32mm tires at compasscycle.com may be just as fast, too? Others can chime in. 2. For the most puncture protected 650b tires that are probably still going to fit on a Bleriot: I'm not sure what you mean by probably still going to fit on a Bleriot, because Hetres fit on a Bleriot -- as you note. Schwalbe Marathon HS420, sold at rivbike.com. It is pure overkill, but a delight to ride and not have to worry much after you plow through fields of glass on your rides. I ahev them under Longboard fenders on my Sam Hillborne. I would guess that they would fot on a Bleriot, but haven't tried. The Hetres and Marathons both measure 40.5 on my 650b rims at 55psi, last I checked. So, widthwise, they should work on a Bleriot. But the Marathon may have a taller profile because of its massive tread. Hetres fit great on my Bleriot under SKS P45 fenders. I have Tektro R559 brakes and also works with Paul Centerpull brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Question
On 12/20/2013 08:46 AM, David Hays wrote: Wouldn’t this work: http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/continental-26-x-1-25-1-75-42mm-presta-valve-tube I've never seen a Continental 26 tube. I'd suspect it would, since it claims to fit 1.25, but you never know. 650B tires typically are 1 1/2 wide, so you'd think a 1.5/1.75 would be fine; and in some brands (e.g., the Maxxis Ultralight) it is; but the Specialized tube in the 1.5/1.75 size is so wide it makes tire installation very, very difficult. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 650B Question
Generally speaking, tubes are very stretchable. In a pinch, you can use almost any tube somewhat smaller than the size of the tire (within reason - I am not sure you could get away with using a 20 kid's bike tube in a 650B wheel). High-quality tubes have more uniform walls and can be stretched more. (I often use 700C tubes intended for 19-28 mm tires in 32 mm tires.) So for 650B, almost any 26 tube will work, and those are pretty widely available. Most of all, you are unlikely to need more tubes than you carry - wide 650B tires get very, very few flats. I've had only 2 flats on Grand Bois Hetres in more than 20,000 miles on all kinds of roads, from urban commuting in Seattle to gravel roads in the Cascades. Both were on very worn tires... I have had as many flats from faulty tubes on test bikes, so make sure you get high-quality tubes! On big rides, I carry two superlight spare tubes plus a glueless patch kit, but even that appears to be overkill. Still, it's better than having to walk for a day or two – in many places we ride, there is no bike shop within 50 miles, so it doesn't matter which tube I ride. Overall, as 650B is becoming the most popular mountain bike wheel size, you can expect the availability of tubes to increase rapidly. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Thanks Curtis. Wish you could make it. Merry Christmas. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Have a great ride! Curtis On Thursday, December 19, 2013, Coconutbill wrote: Feel better, BigSchill ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS or FT: $90 Nitto Mini Rack - $90. Would Trade for Nitto M12+$20 (obo)
Price is OBO. Thanks! Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Question
I've used, for short periods, 1 tubes in 2 tires (571 X 23 mm or 559 X 1 in standard 2 mtb tire), and 559 tubes in 622 tires (559X2 in 60 mm 29er tire. Have not tried a 559X1 or 650CX23 mm tube in a 29er tire, yet. But they do stretch. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: Generally speaking, tubes are very stretchable. In a pinch, you can use almost any tube somewhat smaller than the size of the tire (within reason - I am not sure you could get away with using a 20 kid's bike tube in a 650B wheel). High-quality tubes have more uniform walls and can be stretched more. (I often use 700C tubes intended for 19-28 mm tires in 32 mm tires.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Question
On 12/20/2013 09:28 AM, Jan Heine wrote: Generally speaking, tubes are very stretchable. In a pinch, you can use almost any tube somewhat smaller than the size of the tire (within reason - I am not sure you could get away with using a 20 kid's bike tube in a 650B wheel). High-quality tubes have more uniform walls and can be stretched more. (I often use 700C tubes intended for 19-28 mm tires in 32 mm tires.) I am entirely certain, based on personal experience, that it is entirely impossible to use a 32-369 tube in a 622 tire. I tried, and I was in such a befuddled state at that point that it took me several minutes to figure out exactly what the problem was (since the tube had -7x1 1/4 printed on it). So for 650B, almost any 26 tube will work, and those are pretty widely available. Most of all, you are unlikely to need more tubes than you carry - wide 650B tires get very, very few flats. I've had only 2 flats on Grand Bois Hetres in more than 20,000 miles on all kinds of roads, from urban commuting in Seattle to gravel roads in the Cascades. Both were on very worn tires... I have had as many flats from faulty tubes on test bikes, so make sure you get high-quality tubes! But a tube that is too wide is exceptionally difficult to install, as it's almost impossible to avoid pinching the tube under the tire bead. On big rides, I carry two superlight spare tubes plus a glueless patch kit, but even that appears to be overkill. Still, it's better than having to walk for a day or two – in many places we ride, there is no bike shop within 50 miles, so it doesn't matter which tube I ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 650B Question
Further demonstrating the general flexibility of tubes, QBP now sells tubes that are marked as fitting both 559 and 584 wheels. I expect they're just the same as the old 559 tubes with the added clarification that you're okay running them in 584 wheels. Didn't guys run wide 559 tubes on 622 wheels in the early days of 29ers? On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:28:14 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote: Generally speaking, tubes are very stretchable. In a pinch, you can use almost any tube somewhat smaller than the size of the tire (within reason - I am not sure you could get away with using a 20 kid's bike tube in a 650B wheel). High-quality tubes have more uniform walls and can be stretched more. (I often use 700C tubes intended for 19-28 mm tires in 32 mm tires.) So for 650B, almost any 26 tube will work, and those are pretty widely available. Most of all, you are unlikely to need more tubes than you carry - wide 650B tires get very, very few flats. I've had only 2 flats on Grand Bois Hetres in more than 20,000 miles on all kinds of roads, from urban commuting in Seattle to gravel roads in the Cascades. Both were on very worn tires... I have had as many flats from faulty tubes on test bikes, so make sure you get high-quality tubes! On big rides, I carry two superlight spare tubes plus a glueless patch kit, but even that appears to be overkill. Still, it's better than having to walk for a day or two – in many places we ride, there is no bike shop within 50 miles, so it doesn't matter which tube I ride. Overall, as 650B is becoming the most popular mountain bike wheel size, you can expect the availability of tubes to increase rapidly. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650B Question
On 12/20/2013 12:08 PM, Jeremy Till wrote: Further demonstrating the general flexibility of tubes, QBP now sells tubes that are marked as fitting both 559 and 584 wheels. I expect they're just the same as the old 559 tubes with the added clarification that you're okay running them in 584 wheels. Back in 2006 I posted to the 650B list the following list of sizes the tube fit, taken from the documentation accompanying the Schwalbe 650B tube: 47-559 (26x1.75) 47-571 37-584 44-584 32-590 37-590 44-590 32-597 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Question
when I get home I'll double check and send you a pic iirc. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 12/20/2013 05:31 AM, Bruce Herbitter wrote: 650B is in the 26 family. 26 x 1 3/8 size tubes work well. I've never seen a Presta version of a 26 x 1 3/8 tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole
I've seen alot broken cables in STI shifters for years, sometimes resulting in the need for a new brifter. Jim (in icy Madison, WI been wrenching for 25+ years) On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:28:32 PM UTC-6, Brewster Fong wrote: On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:20:23 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: We're seeing a lot of broken right hand shift cables these days: there's some sort of fatigue point inside many Shimano STI units. But when the cable breaks, it's always at the shifter. Yup, it appears that ever since Shimano decided to put their cabling under the handlebar tape, there's been problems with the head of the shifter cable breaking inside the STI lever: http://jimlangley.blogspot.com/2007/09/q-cable-stuck-inside-shimano-sti.html This didn't seem to happen when Shimano had their STI cables outside of the handlebar tape. That leaves lots of perfectly good cable attached to the rear derailleur. So unscrew the bolts on a water bottle cage. With your thumb push the rear derailleur in so that the chain lines up with a sprocket that will give you a couple of usable gears on your two chain rings, and put tension on the derailleur cable to hold it in place. Catch the cable under the water bottle cage and screw the bolts back down to hold the tension. Great advice! Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] BikeRumor mentions an S24O
Hey All, Check out http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/12/20/bikerumor-pic-of-the-day-ride-sleep-ride/ Do we know these folks? And seeing as how I grew up on Mt Diablo, I can say that the photo looks alot like Diablo. Cheers, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness
Good Luck, Cecily. Surely that Betty Foy is meant to be, and though the healing may be hard, my hope is that you and your medical team will make it happen so you can ride your Betty again. It's hard for a bike lover to be off the bike. Merry Christmas and a healthier New Year Ryan in Winnipeg On Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:38:31 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote: Thank you, Tom. Over the last 10 years my medical team and I have tried everything. I lost -- and regained -- weight so many times, I've decided it's one battle I'm not going fight. Besides: fat ladies don't get wrinkles. ;-) You're exactly right that life happens. That's generally the attitude I try to take these days. Everyone has a burden: osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis just happen to be mine, and surgery's the remedy. It won't be easy or fun, but once I've healed I'll be a brand new me. That thought keeps me going. Cheers, Cecily On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:53:53 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote: Dearest Cecily, I am adding you to my prayers for recovery, restoration, revitalization, and resumption of you use of Betty Foy. Stop the self punishment and recrimination right now. I am no expert on medical, diet or any other therapy for this, but there are some good comments in here. I am a math/engineering type of person who has somehow found himself in charge of a rather large group of people. Many of them have increased their responsibility and investment of time to do their jobs. And, as in your case, life happens. They go into the recrimination mode because they are not running ten miles a day or working out. It becomes a trap. We recommend setting minimums. Rather than just let her set idle, what is the minimum you could do with Betty Foy and not blame yourself for doing nothing? The blame yourself is the problem thing. In one case, a former runner at my work agreed to at least set her running shoes at the door every morning. That's a minimum. After a few mornings of that, she put them on and went for a walk. Walking led to running again. Running a small amount has been growing slowly back to her previous level of performance while still meeting her work responsibilities. It takes time. What could you do with Betty Foy? Go and look at her in her station in your home. Work on her (install the rack). Ride 1 block and get the mail. Grab her handlebars and walk her to a nearby destination. Use he basket to portage some purchase home. You don't have to do it all at once. Step by step, dear. Best Regards, Tom On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:46:45 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote: My osteoarthritis has become so bad in the last few weeks that it's nearly impossible to ride my Betty Foy. Even after a professional bike fitting, I simply don't have enough flexibility in the knee to make pedaling possible. Part of me feels like it's punishment for buying such an expensive bike in the first place, but the thing that hurts the most is I'll have to take *public transit* to work until things improve/until surgery, whichever comes first. But at least I'll finally have time to put the Nitto front rack on the bike. *heavy sigh* Cecily -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: BikeRumor mentions an S24O
I rode with Tony on the SFR Davis Night 200k in 2012. Good dude, and he has some pretty flippin' cool bikes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Nitto Rear rack
My name is Doug I have a serious luggage rack problem.now, I think I need another one. In today's BLUG post, check out the rear rack on the 51 cm Sam in the last photo. It's got the lower pannier mounting bars that allow easy access to the top platform with panniers attached. It looks like the front hoop is either really low or gone, so there is more useful area on the platform. This really looks like a good evolution. If the lower mounts are nice long tabs that can be cut to fit, one of these may wind up on the mini-Lantis. This is the rack that's been mentioned somewhere (here? BLUG?) as one of Mark's projects. I recall something about Rivendell wanting to replace the 2 different sizes of Big Back Rack with a single version, which makes a lot of sense. This looks like it. ETA from Nitto is soon. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New Nitto Rear rack
I wish Mark's other project rack (the HUB area rack) would be sooner than later too. Seems like it's been forever. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
The hidden chainring bolt, while a pain in the ass and kind of ugly, is a result of getting rid of a pair of stress risers - on cranks where two of the spider arms straddle the crank arm, there's a small angle where cracks can start, because the web is thin and is subject to constant stress cycles (see old Campy cranks for a popular example). When one of the spider arms is moved under the crank arm, those angles are opened way up and the stress risers are greatly reduced. Sort of like the point on the bb end of the Ritchey logic crank - it looks weird, but prevents the crank from cracking from one corner of the square tapered hole. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New Nitto Rear rack
Dang, you're right, that rear rack is HOT On Friday, December 20, 2013 12:02:34 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: My name is Doug I have a serious luggage rack problem.now, I think I need another one. In today's BLUG post, check out the rear rack on the 51 cm Sam in the last photo. It's got the lower pannier mounting bars that allow easy access to the top platform with panniers attached. It looks like the front hoop is either really low or gone, so there is more useful area on the platform. This really looks like a good evolution. If the lower mounts are nice long tabs that can be cut to fit, one of these may wind up on the mini-Lantis. This is the rack that's been mentioned somewhere (here? BLUG?) as one of Mark's projects. I recall something about Rivendell wanting to replace the 2 different sizes of Big Back Rack with a single version, which makes a lot of sense. This looks like it. ETA from Nitto is soon. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] A moment of sadness
Cecily, As someone who has, from time to time, been physically prohibited from riding, I can feel your frustration. Almost every time I thought my cycling days were over, my body healed itself and allowed me to have another season of riding. I hope you have the same outcome. Keep your thoughts positive and keep reading this wonderful blog. There is a lot of inspiration here and a lot of people who care...Merry Christmas Cecily... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness
Peter: Almost every time... so you aren't able to ride now? With abadnon, Patrick On Friday, December 20, 2013 3:37:37 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: Cecily, As someone who has, from time to time, been physically prohibited from riding, I can feel your frustration. Almost every time I thought my cycling days were over, my body healed itself and allowed me to have another season of riding. I hope you have the same outcome. Keep your thoughts positive and keep reading this wonderful blog. There is a lot of inspiration here and a lot of people who care...Merry Christmas Cecily... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
I believe this is more a product of certain manufacturer failures, rather than the design itself. Sugino makes many cranks, and the XD is the only 1 that uses the hidden bolt design ! This includes the 75, RD , Alpina and Mighty series of cranks ... all traditional or whatever we can call that design. The 75's have been around a long long time . On Friday, December 20, 2013 3:56:25 PM UTC-5, Andrew Drummond wrote: The hidden chainring bolt, while a pain in the ass and kind of ugly, is a result of getting rid of a pair of stress risers - on cranks where two of the spider arms straddle the crank arm, there's a small angle where cracks can start, because the web is thin and is subject to constant stress cycles (see old Campy cranks for a popular example). When one of the spider arms is moved under the crank arm, those angles are opened way up and the stress risers are greatly reduced. Sort of like the point on the bb end of the Ritchey logic crank - it looks weird, but prevents the crank from cracking from one corner of the square tapered hole. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Nitto Rear rack
Where is the 68 cm Sam? On Friday, December 20, 2013, dougP wrote: My name is Doug I have a serious luggage rack problem.now, I think I need another one. In today's BLUG post, check out the rear rack on the 51 cm Sam in the last photo. It's got the lower pannier mounting bars that allow easy access to the top platform with panniers attached. It looks like the front hoop is either really low or gone, so there is more useful area on the platform. This really looks like a good evolution. If the lower mounts are nice long tabs that can be cut to fit, one of these may wind up on the mini-Lantis. This is the rack that's been mentioned somewhere (here? BLUG?) as one of Mark's projects. I recall something about Rivendell wanting to replace the 2 different sizes of Big Back Rack with a single version, which makes a lot of sense. This looks like it. ETA from Nitto is soon. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Nitto Rear rack
I don't believe they offer the Sam Hillborne in 68cm. The Sam only takes us up to 96cm PBH. ~100cm PBH folks and taller are forced to go Hilsen nowadays. On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:45:40 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: Where is the 68 cm Sam? On Friday, December 20, 2013, dougP wrote: My name is Doug I have a serious luggage rack problem.now, I think I need another one. In today's BLUG post, check out the rear rack on the 51 cm Sam in the last photo. It's got the lower pannier mounting bars that allow easy access to the top platform with panniers attached. It looks like the front hoop is either really low or gone, so there is more useful area on the platform. This really looks like a good evolution. If the lower mounts are nice long tabs that can be cut to fit, one of these may wind up on the mini-Lantis. This is the rack that's been mentioned somewhere (here? BLUG?) as one of Mark's projects. I recall something about Rivendell wanting to replace the 2 different sizes of Big Back Rack with a single version, which makes a lot of sense. This looks like it. ETA from Nitto is soon. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 650B Question
In my 650X47B tires (Vee Speedsters), I am happily using Q-Bike 700X28-32C tubes. They fit perfect. Before that I tried a Specialized 26X1.00 tube and it failed at the seam. It was not the Epic Roubaix of tubes. On 12/20/13, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: when I get home I'll double check and send you a pic iirc. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 12/20/2013 05:31 AM, Bruce Herbitter wrote: 650B is in the 26 family. 26 x 1 3/8 size tubes work well. I've never seen a Presta version of a 26 x 1 3/8 tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
If RBW makes their own crankset, I hope they design it so that all the chainrings can be taken off and reinstalled without having to pull of the crank arm. That would be handy for un-mechanics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
If Rivendell makes its own cranks, how many say 110/74 and how many say smaller -- 86 or 54 or whatever the old Cyclotourist is? The virtue of the smaller BCD is that you can run very compact doubles in the outer two positions; 54 down to 26 and, IIRC, 86 down to 26. I use a XD2 as a 38/24, but I have to run the rings in the middle and innermost positions -- not that this is a huge hardship, but it would be nice to have 1 BCD for all 3 rings. My vote, fwiw, is a budget alternative to the Compass Herse cranks, but with a bit of flare to the arms so that they can accomodate frames that themselves accommodate 60 mm tires, at least, while keeping Q to a minimum. That -- small bcd, minimum Q for mtb frames, silver, silver, silver -- is, I think, a real and valuable niche, and I'd love something like it for the Fargo. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: If RBW makes their own crankset, I hope they design it so that all the chainrings can be taken off and reinstalled without having to pull of the crank arm. That would be handy for un-mechanics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
That should read: ... 86 down to *28* On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The virtue of the smaller BCD is that you can run very compact doubles in the outer two positions; 54 down to 26 and, IIRC, 86 down to 26. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Half link, NO! File, SI!
I've bitched and moaned on this list about the annoying position of the retrofit Campy 1010s on the '03 Curt (installed by local builder Dave Porter some 6-7 years ago), that, with my preferred ring-and-cog combos, leave the axle at the 1/2 or even the 3/5 point along the dropouts in the cruising cog, so that I am limited to another 2 teeth before I run out of dropout room. Since I lika-da-Dingle, this has limited me to a 17/19 instead of the 17/20. (Tho' I found after grudgingly installing the 17/19 that the 19/63 is the perfect chugging-along gear for extended hills and headwinds when I am carrying a heavy load.) I talked to other local builder Chauncey Matthews about re-positioning the dropouts, but he was reluctant to undertake the job, so after much fretting and internal anguish, today I took big and small rattails and a flat file to them and laboriously filed them back by a couple of mm. Lo and behold, a very little horizontal distance takes up a heckuvalotta chain slack. The axle is now within a mm of the back-end of the dropout in the 48/17, and there is ample room for, not only a 20, but, I daresay, even a 22 or 23. Not that my mighty quads need such piddling gears. I may have to file the dropouts back another mm or so to take up chain slack as the chain stretches, but that should be no problem. The backend of the dropouts is noticeably thinner now, but there is ample metal to support the axle. I had to do the same thing to the '99 Joe gofast when I got it in '99, since I had -- thou fool! -- neglected to specify long dropouts and got Riv's then-current short horizontals. But the file did its work and the gofast can take a 5-tooth jump: I've installed a 20 t (or was it a 21?); the crusing 75 is a 46/15. All of this leading up to a couple of questions: 1. How much linear stretch constitutes sufficient chain wear to require replacing the chain? (I use a Park tool, and I've found that, on the '99 Joe, when I just begin to notice that I cannot any longer take up sufficient slack, the tool measures close to 100% worn. So the dropouts make up a kind of on-bike chain check setup.) It can't be more than a very few mm. 2. Is it true, or is it false, that the lateral movement of the axle as you move it back and forth to accommodate smaller and bigger cogs, is 1/2 the distance that would be required if the chain were a mere single run, instead of being the double run it is? My head can't wrap around this one enough to picture the results of looping the chain versus a single line of chain. (That question makes sense to me, buddy.) 3. Is there a formula to convert linear axle movement to vertical chain deflection? That is: if I measure 1 3/4? of chain sag from the horizontal, then pull the axle back so that the chain is now horizontal (I know that this term is inexact), is there a formula that will tell me how much the axle will move laterally? (For Steve P.: Steve: it's *great* fun filing away energetically with crude hand tools at a $3,500 custom frame!) Patrick Moore, who would be at a total loss if he hadn't such trivial esoterica to fret about, in Burque, NM. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Half link, NO! File, SI!
Patrick, you are an inspiration for me... to keep buying IGH hubs and learn nothing about gear inches, haha.! :-D On Dec 20, 2013 7:50 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've bitched and moaned on this list about the annoying position of the retrofit Campy 1010s on the '03 Curt (installed by local builder Dave Porter some 6-7 years ago), that, with my preferred ring-and-cog combos, leave the axle at the 1/2 or even the 3/5 point along the dropouts in the cruising cog, so that I am limited to another 2 teeth before I run out of dropout room. Since I lika-da-Dingle, this has limited me to a 17/19 instead of the 17/20. (Tho' I found after grudgingly installing the 17/19 that the 19/63 is the perfect chugging-along gear for extended hills and headwinds when I am carrying a heavy load.) I talked to other local builder Chauncey Matthews about re-positioning the dropouts, but he was reluctant to undertake the job, so after much fretting and internal anguish, today I took big and small rattails and a flat file to them and laboriously filed them back by a couple of mm. Lo and behold, a very little horizontal distance takes up a heckuvalotta chain slack. The axle is now within a mm of the back-end of the dropout in the 48/17, and there is ample room for, not only a 20, but, I daresay, even a 22 or 23. Not that my mighty quads need such piddling gears. I may have to file the dropouts back another mm or so to take up chain slack as the chain stretches, but that should be no problem. The backend of the dropouts is noticeably thinner now, but there is ample metal to support the axle. I had to do the same thing to the '99 Joe gofast when I got it in '99, since I had -- thou fool! -- neglected to specify long dropouts and got Riv's then-current short horizontals. But the file did its work and the gofast can take a 5-tooth jump: I've installed a 20 t (or was it a 21?); the crusing 75 is a 46/15. All of this leading up to a couple of questions: 1. How much linear stretch constitutes sufficient chain wear to require replacing the chain? (I use a Park tool, and I've found that, on the '99 Joe, when I just begin to notice that I cannot any longer take up sufficient slack, the tool measures close to 100% worn. So the dropouts make up a kind of on-bike chain check setup.) It can't be more than a very few mm. 2. Is it true, or is it false, that the lateral movement of the axle as you move it back and forth to accommodate smaller and bigger cogs, is 1/2 the distance that would be required if the chain were a mere single run, instead of being the double run it is? My head can't wrap around this one enough to picture the results of looping the chain versus a single line of chain. (That question makes sense to me, buddy.) 3. Is there a formula to convert linear axle movement to vertical chain deflection? That is: if I measure 1 3/4? of chain sag from the horizontal, then pull the axle back so that the chain is now horizontal (I know that this term is inexact), is there a formula that will tell me how much the axle will move laterally? (For Steve P.: Steve: it's *great* fun filing away energetically with crude hand tools at a $3,500 custom frame!) Patrick Moore, who would be at a total loss if he hadn't such trivial esoterica to fret about, in Burque, NM. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Half link, NO! File, SI!
Yeah, if one is uptight enough to worry about gears when all you ride is fixed/ss, then one does have a problem. Back in the day, I used (he blushingly admitted) to print out little gear charts and tape them to my stem, and stare at them lovingly as I rode. In boring staff meetings, I'd manually work out gear combos on my doodle pads. Seriously, if you can believe that, a knowledge of gearing, if you care to take the trouble to acquire it, makes cycling just a little bit more fun. I know, in a very bodily-conscious way, what 70 gear inches means for a given bike, tires, load, incline, wind, surface, etc etc etc. And, if you bother to use multiple gears, you can multiply this satisfaction by N, where N is the number of usable and non-duplicate gears on your drivetrain. My brother, Peter, is just the opposite: he slings on a cassette that he picked up cheap and slings on a crankset that he picked up cheap and just rides what feels comfortable until it is no longer comfortable, then changes. He gives no damn at all about what cog combos he has. We are complete opposites in so many different ways -- he a hoarder and a slob, me a throw it away goddammit! and a fussbudget. O Freud, where is thy slip? On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, you are an inspiration for me... to keep buying IGH hubs and learn nothing about gear inches, haha.! :-D On Dec 20, 2013 7:50 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've bitched and moaned on this list about the annoying position of the retrofit Campy 1010s on the '03 Curt (installed by local builder Dave Porter some 6-7 years ago), that, with my preferred ring-and-cog combos, leave the axle at the 1/2 or even the 3/5 point along the dropouts in the cruising cog, so that I am limited to another 2 teeth before I run out of dropout room. Since I lika-da-Dingle, this has limited me to a 17/19 instead of the 17/20. (Tho' I found after grudgingly installing the 17/19 that the 19/63 is the perfect chugging-along gear for extended hills and headwinds when I am carrying a heavy load.) I talked to other local builder Chauncey Matthews about re-positioning the dropouts, but he was reluctant to undertake the job, so after much fretting and internal anguish, today I took big and small rattails and a flat file to them and laboriously filed them back by a couple of mm. Lo and behold, a very little horizontal distance takes up a heckuvalotta chain slack. The axle is now within a mm of the back-end of the dropout in the 48/17, and there is ample room for, not only a 20, but, I daresay, even a 22 or 23. Not that my mighty quads need such piddling gears. I may have to file the dropouts back another mm or so to take up chain slack as the chain stretches, but that should be no problem. The backend of the dropouts is noticeably thinner now, but there is ample metal to support the axle. I had to do the same thing to the '99 Joe gofast when I got it in '99, since I had -- thou fool! -- neglected to specify long dropouts and got Riv's then-current short horizontals. But the file did its work and the gofast can take a 5-tooth jump: I've installed a 20 t (or was it a 21?); the crusing 75 is a 46/15. All of this leading up to a couple of questions: 1. How much linear stretch constitutes sufficient chain wear to require replacing the chain? (I use a Park tool, and I've found that, on the '99 Joe, when I just begin to notice that I cannot any longer take up sufficient slack, the tool measures close to 100% worn. So the dropouts make up a kind of on-bike chain check setup.) It can't be more than a very few mm. 2. Is it true, or is it false, that the lateral movement of the axle as you move it back and forth to accommodate smaller and bigger cogs, is 1/2 the distance that would be required if the chain were a mere single run, instead of being the double run it is? My head can't wrap around this one enough to picture the results of looping the chain versus a single line of chain. (That question makes sense to me, buddy.) 3. Is there a formula to convert linear axle movement to vertical chain deflection? That is: if I measure 1 3/4? of chain sag from the horizontal, then pull the axle back so that the chain is now horizontal (I know that this term is inexact), is there a formula that will tell me how much the axle will move laterally? (For Steve P.: Steve: it's *great* fun filing away energetically with crude hand tools at a $3,500 custom frame!) Patrick Moore, who would be at a total loss if he hadn't such trivial esoterica to fret about, in Burque, NM. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from
[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!
I envision RBW's crankset with tentacular arms, perhaps with a diagacrank for 172.5 and up. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
You rascals have a great time. Tom On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Hunqapillar and Jones bars set up question(s)
Hi All, So, I'm thinking of getting a Jones bar for my Hunq. http://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html Currently, it's a set up with Noodles--which I love--but I want something more trail oriented. Yes, I can ride trails with my Noodles. I have Albatross bars on my LHT so I am familiar with those too. And I'm aware of Rivendell's Nitto Bullmoose--cool bars, but the Jones are even wider with more hand positions. What I'm really wondering about is experience folks might have with 1 to 1 1/8 conversions using either a stem adapter like this http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/threadless-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html or using a quill stem with an open face 31.8 clamp diameter like this: http://www.origin-8.com/product-description/?prod_model_uid=7262 Pro of the stem adapter is that I can then whatever stem I want; pro of a quill open face is that it's cheaper and perhaps slightly (but ever so) more elegant. Are folks aware of other quill open face 31.8 stems--something NOS? Salsa made an open face quill for sometime but I'm pretty it was only in 25.4--maybe 26. Thanks for any advice. I think I've got it covered, but thought I'd run it by this always helpful bunch. Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar and Jones bars set up question(s)
I have a stem adapter on our tandem, and it works great. I'd recommend the Nitto one over the VO one. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, So, I'm thinking of getting a Jones bar for my Hunq. http://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html Currently, it's a set up with Noodles--which I love--but I want something more trail oriented. Yes, I can ride trails with my Noodles. I have Albatross bars on my LHT so I am familiar with those too. And I'm aware of Rivendell's Nitto Bullmoose--cool bars, but the Jones are even wider with more hand positions. What I'm really wondering about is experience folks might have with 1 to 1 1/8 conversions using either a stem adapter like this http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/threadless-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.htmlor using a quill stem with an open face 31.8 clamp diameter like this: http://www.origin-8.com/product-description/?prod_model_uid=7262 Pro of the stem adapter is that I can then whatever stem I want; pro of a quill open face is that it's cheaper and perhaps slightly (but ever so) more elegant. Are folks aware of other quill open face 31.8 stems--something NOS? Salsa made an open face quill for sometime but I'm pretty it was only in 25.4--maybe 26. Thanks for any advice. I think I've got it covered, but thought I'd run it by this always helpful bunch. Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bridgestone motorcycle
I knew Bridgestone as a motorcycle company before tires even. They were know for being fair bikes with really strong running motors. I remember a particularly nasty little minibike called the Cibie that was really crap except it had a Bridgestone 180cc motor that was awesome fast. Dangerously fast. It was much later that I came to understand they also made pretty good bicycles. I wonder what other waters they dipped their toes into? On Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:03:17 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:37:05 AM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Wondering whether that was all Bridgestone, or whether Honda had any hand in manufacturing for them??? That's a 2-stroke motor. Honda only did 4-stroke back then. Except for the upswept pipe, it looks almost exactly like a Yamaha 90 from the era: And my apologies for going far OT but that was an era when I started motorcycling. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
By now, they should be well out of wifi range. There should be some good pix a story by late Sat or Sunday. Stay tuned! Hopefully we can organize a repeat in the future, as I would love to do this. dougP On Friday, December 20, 2013 5:36:29 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote: You rascals have a great time. Tom On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Half link, NO! File, SI!
Patrick: So you've given up the Dremel for hand files? Good call! To your questions, I'm clueless. Why not just ride it until your Park tool says replace? dougP On Friday, December 20, 2013 5:03:22 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Yeah, if one is uptight enough to worry about gears when all you ride is fixed/ss, then one does have a problem. Back in the day, I used (he blushingly admitted) to print out little gear charts and tape them to my stem, and stare at them lovingly as I rode. In boring staff meetings, I'd manually work out gear combos on my doodle pads. Seriously, if you can believe that, a knowledge of gearing, if you care to take the trouble to acquire it, makes cycling just a little bit more fun. I know, in a very bodily-conscious way, what 70 gear inches means for a given bike, tires, load, incline, wind, surface, etc etc etc. And, if you bother to use multiple gears, you can multiply this satisfaction by N, where N is the number of usable and non-duplicate gears on your drivetrain. My brother, Peter, is just the opposite: he slings on a cassette that he picked up cheap and slings on a crankset that he picked up cheap and just rides what feels comfortable until it is no longer comfortable, then changes. He gives no damn at all about what cog combos he has. We are complete opposites in so many different ways -- he a hoarder and a slob, me a throw it away goddammit! and a fussbudget. O Freud, where is thy slip? On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Patrick, you are an inspiration for me... to keep buying IGH hubs and learn nothing about gear inches, haha.! :-D On Dec 20, 2013 7:50 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I've bitched and moaned on this list about the annoying position of the retrofit Campy 1010s on the '03 Curt (installed by local builder Dave Porter some 6-7 years ago), that, with my preferred ring-and-cog combos, leave the axle at the 1/2 or even the 3/5 point along the dropouts in the cruising cog, so that I am limited to another 2 teeth before I run out of dropout room. Since I lika-da-Dingle, this has limited me to a 17/19 instead of the 17/20. (Tho' I found after grudgingly installing the 17/19 that the 19/63 is the perfect chugging-along gear for extended hills and headwinds when I am carrying a heavy load.) I talked to other local builder Chauncey Matthews about re-positioning the dropouts, but he was reluctant to undertake the job, so after much fretting and internal anguish, today I took big and small rattails and a flat file to them and laboriously filed them back by a couple of mm. Lo and behold, a very little horizontal distance takes up a heckuvalotta chain slack. The axle is now within a mm of the back-end of the dropout in the 48/17, and there is ample room for, not only a 20, but, I daresay, even a 22 or 23. Not that my mighty quads need such piddling gears. I may have to file the dropouts back another mm or so to take up chain slack as the chain stretches, but that should be no problem. The backend of the dropouts is noticeably thinner now, but there is ample metal to support the axle. I had to do the same thing to the '99 Joe gofast when I got it in '99, since I had -- thou fool! -- neglected to specify long dropouts and got Riv's then-current short horizontals. But the file did its work and the gofast can take a 5-tooth jump: I've installed a 20 t (or was it a 21?); the crusing 75 is a 46/15. All of this leading up to a couple of questions: 1. How much linear stretch constitutes sufficient chain wear to require replacing the chain? (I use a Park tool, and I've found that, on the '99 Joe, when I just begin to notice that I cannot any longer take up sufficient slack, the tool measures close to 100% worn. So the dropouts make up a kind of on-bike chain check setup.) It can't be more than a very few mm. 2. Is it true, or is it false, that the lateral movement of the axle as you move it back and forth to accommodate smaller and bigger cogs, is 1/2 the distance that would be required if the chain were a mere single run, instead of being the double run it is? My head can't wrap around this one enough to picture the results of looping the chain versus a single line of chain. (That question makes sense to me, buddy.) 3. Is there a formula to convert linear axle movement to vertical chain deflection? That is: if I measure 1 3/4? of chain sag from the horizontal, then pull the axle back so that the chain is now horizontal (I know that this term is inexact), is there a formula that will tell me how much the axle will move laterally? (For Steve P.: Steve: it's *great* fun filing away energetically with crude hand tools at a $3,500 custom frame!) Patrick Moore, who would be at a total loss if he hadn't such trivial esoterica to fret about, in Burque, NM.
Re: [RBW] Half link, NO! File, SI!
I want some idea in advance of how much more I need to file the dropouts. On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:41 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Patrick: So you've given up the Dremel for hand files? Good call! To your questions, I'm clueless. Why not just ride it until your Park tool says replace? dougP On Friday, December 20, 2013 5:03:22 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Yeah, if one is uptight enough to worry about gears when all you ride is fixed/ss, then one does have a problem. Back in the day, I used (he blushingly admitted) to print out little gear charts and tape them to my stem, and stare at them lovingly as I rode. In boring staff meetings, I'd manually work out gear combos on my doodle pads. Seriously, if you can believe that, a knowledge of gearing, if you care to take the trouble to acquire it, makes cycling just a little bit more fun. I know, in a very bodily-conscious way, what 70 gear inches means for a given bike, tires, load, incline, wind, surface, etc etc etc. And, if you bother to use multiple gears, you can multiply this satisfaction by N, where N is the number of usable and non-duplicate gears on your drivetrain. My brother, Peter, is just the opposite: he slings on a cassette that he picked up cheap and slings on a crankset that he picked up cheap and just rides what feels comfortable until it is no longer comfortable, then changes. He gives no damn at all about what cog combos he has. We are complete opposites in so many different ways -- he a hoarder and a slob, me a throw it away goddammit! and a fussbudget. O Freud, where is thy slip? On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, you are an inspiration for me... to keep buying IGH hubs and learn nothing about gear inches, haha.! :-D On Dec 20, 2013 7:50 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: I've bitched and moaned on this list about the annoying position of the retrofit Campy 1010s on the '03 Curt (installed by local builder Dave Porter some 6-7 years ago), that, with my preferred ring-and-cog combos, leave the axle at the 1/2 or even the 3/5 point along the dropouts in the cruising cog, so that I am limited to another 2 teeth before I run out of dropout room. Since I lika-da-Dingle, this has limited me to a 17/19 instead of the 17/20. (Tho' I found after grudgingly installing the 17/19 that the 19/63 is the perfect chugging-along gear for extended hills and headwinds when I am carrying a heavy load.) I talked to other local builder Chauncey Matthews about re-positioning the dropouts, but he was reluctant to undertake the job, so after much fretting and internal anguish, today I took big and small rattails and a flat file to them and laboriously filed them back by a couple of mm. Lo and behold, a very little horizontal distance takes up a heckuvalotta chain slack. The axle is now within a mm of the back-end of the dropout in the 48/17, and there is ample room for, not only a 20, but, I daresay, even a 22 or 23. Not that my mighty quads need such piddling gears. I may have to file the dropouts back another mm or so to take up chain slack as the chain stretches, but that should be no problem. The backend of the dropouts is noticeably thinner now, but there is ample metal to support the axle. I had to do the same thing to the '99 Joe gofast when I got it in '99, since I had -- thou fool! -- neglected to specify long dropouts and got Riv's then-current short horizontals. But the file did its work and the gofast can take a 5-tooth jump: I've installed a 20 t (or was it a 21?); the crusing 75 is a 46/15. All of this leading up to a couple of questions: 1. How much linear stretch constitutes sufficient chain wear to require replacing the chain? (I use a Park tool, and I've found that, on the '99 Joe, when I just begin to notice that I cannot any longer take up sufficient slack, the tool measures close to 100% worn. So the dropouts make up a kind of on-bike chain check setup.) It can't be more than a very few mm. 2. Is it true, or is it false, that the lateral movement of the axle as you move it back and forth to accommodate smaller and bigger cogs, is 1/2 the distance that would be required if the chain were a mere single run, instead of being the double run it is? My head can't wrap around this one enough to picture the results of looping the chain versus a single line of chain. (That question makes sense to me, buddy.) 3. Is there a formula to convert linear axle movement to vertical chain deflection? That is: if I measure 1 3/4? of chain sag from the horizontal, then pull the axle back so that the chain is now horizontal (I know that this term is inexact), is there a formula that will tell me how much the axle will move laterally? (For Steve P.: Steve: it's *great* fun filing away energetically with crude hand tools at a $3,500 custom frame!) Patrick Moore, who would be at a total loss if he
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar and Jones bars set up question(s)
I used a Nitto adapter on my tandem also (now sold) and it worked great. I've never found any quill stem that uses a 31.8 clamp. So just get the adapter and a threadless stem. I'm curious about the Jones bars, maybe when I get my 29+ bike I'll try one. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Quickbeam or Simple One for my needs?
Which of the RBW single speeds is for me based on my personal and need based info below? 1. PBH = 82 2. Longest TT I can bear = 55.5cm c-c (would require 6 or 7 cm stem extension for me with Noodles, but I am ok with that). 3. Prefer sidepulls. 4. Like either 650b or 700c. 5. Need fenderable with tires at least 32 mm wide. The hard part is picking a gear ratio because I live in rolling terrain area. Thanks for any help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bike #1
I finally found the source of all my madness. Bike #1 of who knows how many. I don't think it's lugged but check out that fork crown and fenders...are those Bosco bars?!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/11474239905/ Rob Markwardt Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.