Re: [RBW] ebay Atlantis 61 cm

2014-01-22 Thread IanA
The original Atlantis was a Bridgestone bike.  When RBW released the 
Atlantis, it was named Atlantis 2.  It was the first and only Rivendell 
Atlantis and was always called the Atlantis 2.  Since its release 
 towards the end of 1999, it's had a few changes (mid fork braze ons, 
kickstand plate and maybe others), but it's always been the one and only 
marque.  

I could be wrong on all counts.

Ian A/Canada.

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:14:50 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 It remind me of Vegetable Korma color. Nice.

 Did the original Atlantii have a 1 on the seat tube?


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Re: [RBW] ebay Atlantis 61 cm

2014-01-22 Thread Eric Platt
My size, and I love the color.  No way I can rationalize buying it.  Pretty
sure I've seen that bike in person.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 AM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote:

 The original Atlantis was a Bridgestone bike.  When RBW released the
 Atlantis, it was named Atlantis 2.  It was the first and only Rivendell
 Atlantis and was always called the Atlantis 2.  Since its release
  towards the end of 1999, it's had a few changes (mid fork braze ons,
 kickstand plate and maybe others), but it's always been the one and only
 marque.

 I could be wrong on all counts.

 Ian A/Canada.


 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:14:50 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 It remind me of Vegetable Korma color. Nice.

 Did the original Atlantii have a 1 on the seat tube?

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot!?

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP1070006.jpg

Don't remember what I was looking for, but I was shuffling through cigar 
boxes just the other day.  Came across all those little segments of chain 
and wondering why I kept them.  Now I know.  


On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:00:16 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Actually, if you have to splice two chains together, it is, by definition, 
 a biggie. I made a joke!
  
 Joe tip your waiter Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:18:46 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Two bad jokes!  I love it.  That's a double raspberry!  It's believable 
 that a normal length chain would work with a 40t big ring with the 
 long-a-stays.  People that decide to go with a 48t big ring will most 
 likely have to splice something together.  No biggie.  

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:06:30 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:

 We nailed it at 117 links! Bad joke. It's 116, as I recall. That's with 
 a 28 x 24 double up front and an 11 x 26 rear. Another bad joke.
 I believe it really is 116. Mark was putting together the first one and 
 called us around to see. But that is with a 40t big ring, which makes sense 
 on a bike like this. 

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:53:28 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 You mentioned the longer chainstays in the blug, Grant.  You didn't 
 mention that only the two larger sizes were getting the longer stays prior 
 to this post, but people noticed the difference with the build pics of the 
 50 came up on the BLUG.  

 Will the long-a-stay sizes need a longer-than-standard chain?  116links 
 is the normal size, right?   

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:32:17 AM UTC-8, grant wrote:

 Too many guys wanted the mixte but not  the Betty, so we renamed the 
 Betty, and then for the fun of it, lengthened the chainstays on the two 
 larger models (part of the longer chainstays are better craze around 
 here 
 lately). The diaga-stay angle varies with the frame size because  of the 
 tricky lower seat tube intersection. The 60 has a diff lug than the 50, 
 55. 

 On an anally faux-French level there would be no variation, but to me 
 (whose vote counts, I can't help that part), 1/4 of the beauty--the deep 
 inner secret beauty--of the Cheviot/Betty is something that is hard to 
 describe in words without seeming to sound like---that's not what I 
 MEANT!

 But some of the ingredients of the description are here: *It is as 
 good a bike as I can design, it has crazy unnecessary flourishes (the 
 seat 
 lug in particular, and the fork crown), and the graphics are spectacular 
 and unique, and yet it is (the hard part to describe) slightly rough 
 around 
 the edges in a way that would be unacceptable for a showstopper that 
 costs 
 2.5x as much, but is not just ACceptable for a bike of this price, but 
 actually adds to it in a humility kind of way.*

 A critic would call that a cop-out, but would be wrong. We're not out 
 to appeal to the wannabe 1950's  professor with a pipe. We want, and I 
 want, the Cheviot to be under the butts of super normal people who are 
 open 
 to a new world of bikes and a way of looking at them. I am probably too 
 involved in the bike to try to describe it at this emotional level, but 
 it 
 is something like that. I think it should be the most popular bike we've 
 ever made, but I also know diagatube and stays represent a high hurdle to 
 many, and that's OK, too. It's not like it's a high-volume bike. We're 
 getting in about 2.2 per state, early March. I hope we can sell that many 
 before August, and then the nexties might be in January.

 I can't believe I didn't mention the longer chainstays, but I'm glad 
 it came up. It was a can't see the forest for the trees thing.

 G

 G

 On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:50:33 PM UTC-8, Christopher Mungioli 
 wrote:

 So what's the story with the new Cheviot?  There still isn't a 
 description up on the site, and just from looking at pictures its hard 
 to 
 tell what makes it that much different from a betty foy, so why the 
 change?   Anyone have the details? 



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[RBW] Bikes for sale-Michigan area listers please take note

2014-01-22 Thread Steven Frederick
I'm trying to thin the herd, as they say--listing some of my bikes for
sale.  52-54cm sized road bikes, including a classic Bianchi, a Heron Road,
a Bridgestone XO-1, a nice CoMotion tandem and a Rans recumbent.  Ad with
pics and description here:

http://mmba.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=122634p=846745#p846745

Really prefer not to ship at this point but would be willing to travel and
meet up with interested buyers within a reasonable distance of Lansing, MI.

Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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Re: [RBW] Re: Now this is something we should bring back!!

2014-01-22 Thread Bruce Baker
Nice!!  Beautiful bike wouldn't mind having that one in my stable!!


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 It has been brought back.  Sure it'd cost you about $8000 to get it, but
 it's back!

 Tony P did it!http://www.cycleexif.com/pereira-cycles-gentlemans-bicycle


 http://www.cycleexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pereira-cycles-gentlemans-bike-10.jpg



 On Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:40:59 AM UTC-8, Bruce Baker wrote:

 Now here is something I wouldn't mind retrofitting on my Sam!!

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Raleigh-Locking-Fork-
 with-2-Keys-60s-70s-Bike-Excellent-Condition-Rare-/
 141167346581?pt=US_Forkshash=item20de3ac395

 I have never seen this before but is certainly a nice concept.
 Bruce

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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Michael Hechmer
Looks great, I can hardly wait to see it painted.  Since you went fat tire 
 and cantis I heartily recommend you spring for a set of Paul's Neo Retros. 
 hey are fabulous brakes.  What kind of riding do you plan to do on this 
bike?

Michael
In Westford VT where it is 22 below this morning.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:46:04 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:

 Behold!

 The Riv Chica Warhorse just arrived at Riv HQ and is heading immediately 
 out to JB for paint!  This will be an exquisite bike; real life is better 
 than imagination. I am stunned by how oddly sleek she looks; a little like 
 a sea creature!  It is perhaps because the chainstays are so long and the 
 midstays are so elegant.  Diagatubelettes at the headtube are also a thing 
 of beauty.  

 You can imagine how giddy I am.  Glad it's 12 below today as it helps 
 greatly with patience.




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[RBW] Another RBBH Visit

2014-01-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Woohoo!  I got in a visit to the mothership last week...  Thanks to Keven 
for the conversation and information.  Cool to put a face with the helpfull 
email.  As part of the visit I got a demo ride on a 58cm TT Sam w/ the new 
albastache bars.  My favorite part of the store was actually the ceiling 
grid of bells.  Amazingly quirky and beautiful.  My attempt at a 650B frame 
discussion was very quickly poo-pohed unfortunately, and as there wasn't a 
58/650B AHH around for a demo anyway it was a mute point. Maybe next time 
I'll swing into the HQ and check that out instead.  I bought one of the 
medium shopsacks and a t shirt, that shopsack is my new favorite bag!

Pictures prove it happened:
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/rivendell-bike-book-and-hatchet-visit.html

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lZPRFMDNX00/Ut--_jtgV1I/DKU/VqUkuv_Zwu4/s1600/140116%2B-%2BTonyDPhoto%2B-%2BRBBH%2B%25288%2Bof%2B10%2529.jpg

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RE: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
As a lifelong churchgoer who often struggles internally with questions of faith 
and religion, I had some long and lively cyber-discussions with Seth, in which 
he articulated (forcefully but respectfully) his atheism. That doesn’t mean he 
was right.  But somehow I feel respect for Seth must involve respect for his 
beliefs, or at the very least his right to hold them.

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Virgil
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

It isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. Seth Vidal

Seth is riding in heaven.  I am certain of it.  And experiencing the glory of 
being in the presence of God.  As to our dogs...


Most of us can't picture a paradise of unspeakable beauty without flowers, 
trees, and animals. Would it be heaven for an avid birdwatcher if there are no 
birds? Would a fisherman want to spend eternity with no fish? And would it be 
heaven for a cowboy without horses?

While theologians may be stubborn in classifying animals' souls as inferior 
to those of humans, those learned scholars must admit that descriptions of 
heaven in the Bible are sketchy at best. The Bible does not give a definitive 
answer on the question of whether we will see our pets in heaven, but it does 
say, ... with God, all things are possible. (Matthew 19:26, 
NIVhttp://christianity.about.com/od/faqhelpdesk/p/newinternationa.htm)

My Cairn Terrier, Charlie, is an important part of my life and I often feel he 
is a gift God has given me. You probably feel the same way about your pet.

That’s why I like the story about the elderly widow whose beloved little dog 
died after fifteen faithful years. Distraught, she went to her pastor.

Parson, she said, tears streaming down her cheeks, the vicar said animals 
have no souls. My darling little dog Fluffy has died. Does that mean I won’t 
see her again in heaven?

Madam, said the old priest, God, in his great love and wisdom has created 
heaven to be a place of perfect happiness. I am sure that if you need your 
little dog to complete your happiness, you will find her there.
Take care dear friend,

Tom




On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:35:13 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or RBW HQ 
doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― 
Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
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RE: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
This is my favorite bike story of the new year.  Partly because it’s not only 
(or even mostly!) a bike story.  Well done, Bubba.

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Subject: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!



I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it around 
the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is that the 40 
year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking power.  I'm 
really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the racks and fenders 
are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The racks ought to be in 
soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the rack and fender install.  
Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, so this bike is S24O ready.  
It's full Alba-smile worthy.

Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with clear 
shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  They were 
down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged up.  It had 
splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  Whatever.  I 
bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's looking more 
amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks lighter than the side 
that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, we're making memories (as 
my mom always says)!

[http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg



Tons of 
Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/

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[RBW] Re: ebay Atlantis 61 cm

2014-01-22 Thread Kieran J
Sorry about the strong feelings, but not into that colour at all! Reminds 
me of feeling ill :-(
 
KJ
 
 
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:34:39 PM UTC-5, rcnute wrote:

 Someone get this!  Sweet color! 


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frame-Set-61cm-700c-wheels-/261380396092?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item3cdb7c543c

 Ryan


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Re: [RBW] ebay Atlantis 61 cm

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:55:52 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:

 Argh, wife convinced me to buy a couch instead of a new bike. I tried to 
 explain that they are polar opposites, haha

careful, that argument is too good - women keep score when they lose
 

  On Jan 21, 2014 9:34 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Someone get this!  Sweet color!


 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frame-Set-61cm-700c-wheels-/261380396092?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item3cdb7c543c

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RE: [RBW] ebay Atlantis 61 cm

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
My size, too –but I HAVE to get into deaccession mode…

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Someone get this!  Sweet color!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frame-Set-61cm-700c-wheels-/261380396092?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item3cdb7c543c

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RE: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Here’s why I cling to the posts from this group like Tom Hanks to his Wilson:  
The next message in my inbox right after Patrick’s spiritual post was an 
advertisement for the gripping page turner The Lawyers Guide to Strategic 
Practice Management.  Oh, and “chirality”.  Thanks to you all for helping keep 
me sane and awake.  Simultaneously.


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Enter now deeply and all moments open wide their arms and embrace you.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or RBW HQ 
doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― 
Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Mojo
Congratulations Bill. Enjoy the rides with your Dad. Thank you for posting.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:29:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/



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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Shoji Takahashi
This is terrific, Bill. I'm inspired by the flickr set, and it's a great 
how-to. Can't wait to see how it all comes together with fenders and racks. 
Many thanks for sharing.

Shoji

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:25:22 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote:

 Congratulations Bill. Enjoy the rides with your Dad. Thank you for posting.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:29:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/



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RE: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Definitely -- the flat wood fenders are fine in a drizzle, especially with a 
flap to catch the run off, but not terribly effective in a hard rain.  They can 
be really beautiful, though, and they're very easy to install.

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

On 01/21/2014 03:26 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Wood fenders would probably work, I'm guessing they are a bit thicker 
 than plastic/metal but not wrapping around the edges would keep the 
 sizing pretty easy.

Also cuts back on their effectiveness, I think.

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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread EGNolan


 The bike looks amazing. Am I the only one that LOVES the fact it has both 
 a kickstand plate AND a chainstay bridge?

  
Best,
Eric 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread EGNolan
Hugh,
Thanks for sharing, it's necessary to put your thoughts down sometimes and 
to remember everybody goes through something. Your message reminds me of 
some lyrics by Townes; 
 
Spring only sighed
summer had to be satisfied
fall is a feelin' that I just can't lose.
I'd like to stay
maybe watch a winter day
turn the green water
to white and blue
 
Days full of rain
skys comin' down again
I get so tired
of these same old blues
same old song
Baby, it won't be long
'fore I'll be tyin' on
my flyin' shoes
 
Keep on living, Hugh, near as I can tell, it's what it's all about.
 
Best,
Eric
 
 

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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread EGNolan


 Beautiful story, beautiful bike. Looks like a great ride, thanks for all 
 the updates. 

  
Best,
Eric 

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Re: [RBW] Bleriot Bling

2014-01-22 Thread EGNolan
My son was pretty excited about Bleriot a coupla years ago, here's his 
bling (my wife helped, but the boy made the flags...)
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/12068102244/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/12067994913/in/photostream/

Your bike looks great, btw. 
 
Best,
Eric

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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Shoji Takahashi
A few more pics on the Blug:
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/74111526410/riv-chica-warriors-frame



On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:15:00 AM UTC-5, EGNolan wrote:

 The bike looks amazing. Am I the only one that LOVES the fact it has both 
 a kickstand plate AND a chainstay bridge?

  
 Best,
 Eric 


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[RBW] Re: Another RBBH Visit

2014-01-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Nice photos!

When I visited, GP had yet to add the ceiling rope grid.  He spoke about 
the bells and the web-to-be.

Ok then, gotta get back over to see this in person.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Indeed.  

Rides and thoughts like that is one of the main reason this list exists. 

Thanks for putting that down and sharing it.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: ISO 51-52cm used touring Riv, Heron, Soma or 80s touring

2014-01-22 Thread JimM
Thanks for the post Kellie, we're reviewing it now.
Jim

On Monday, January 20, 2014 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, Kellie Stapleton wrote:

 There's a great deal on a Soma at Riv *right now*. Look on the BLUG.

 On Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:20:13 AM UTC-8, JimM wrote:

 Greetings,
 I joined this group a while ago, but have never posted.  Anyway, I'm 
 looking for a touring machine for my financee (51-52cm) and haven't seen 
 much on ebay or the local craigslist, so thought I'd give this forum a try. 
 While it would be ideal to get an Atlantis or Sam, we're also interested in 
 a Bleriot, canti Saluki, or even some of the cantilevered touring bikes of 
 the mid 80s.

 Thanks,
 Jim



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[RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Cecily Walker
Hugh, I love your writing style. It's conversational, but you can tell that 
a great deal of thought goes into the words you choose. Thanks for sharing 
your words with us.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:35:13 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or 
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/


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Re: [RBW] Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Cecily Walker
Ditto on Squiddy. Hi, Squiddy!

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:50:04 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Wow, just wow. It DOES look like a swimming Cephlapod! I'm gonna call it 
 squiddy.

 Is this style called a Maxte?


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org javascript:wrote:

 Behold!

 The Riv Chica Warhorse just arrived at Riv HQ and is heading immediately 
 out to JB for paint!  This will be an exquisite bike; real life is better 
 than imagination. I am stunned by how oddly sleek she looks; a little like 
 a sea creature!  It is perhaps because the chainstays are so long and the 
 midstays are so elegant.  Diagatubelettes at the headtube are also a thing 
 of beauty.  

 You can imagine how giddy I am.  Glad it's 12 below today as it helps 
 greatly with patience.


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[RBW] Wanted: Tektro R559 brakes and a handlebar

2014-01-22 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Wanted for a mixte build:


1.  Tektro R559 brakes, silver, recessed/allen version. I have a set of the
nutted version if you want to trade.

2.  Handlebar for 22.2mm (MTB) diameter grips/shifters/brakes: Albatross,
Bosco, Jitensha flat bar, VO Porteur, whatcha got?

3.  9-speed Shimano MTB cassette like 11-34 or 12-32.


Thanks,

David G in San Diego

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[RBW] Re: Another RBBH Visit

2014-01-22 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Thanks for the pics! I'll need to make a trip to Walnut Creek next time I'm 
out that a ways. The rope grid +bells is awesome.

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:57:03 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Nice photos!

 When I visited, GP had yet to add the ceiling rope grid.  He spoke about 
 the bells and the web-to-be.

 Ok then, gotta get back over to see this in person.

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com


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[RBW] Unracing from a non-Riv bike seller

2014-01-22 Thread Cecily Walker
Though I don't live in Atlanta anymore, I still like to keep up with bikey 
doings in my hometown. Houndstooth Road is a local bike shop that sells 
euro-styled sensible city cycles - Bobbin bikes, Bella Ciaos, Pilen, Royal 
Dutch, Linus and the like - and they seem to be doing a pretty good 
business. 

I follow them on Facebook and noticed that they mentioned they'd started a 
series of coffee shop rides around town, and suggested that people go to 
the URL unracing.com to find out more. That URL redirects to their website. 
 Now, I'm not sure if Grant has a patent on the whole unracer idea, and I'm 
not even sure it would be a big enough deal for him to even consider it, 
but I found it interesting that the concept seems to be catching on and 
spreading.

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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread RoadieRyan
Beautiful resurrection job Bill!  that is one sweet looking ride.  I agree 
on the Center-pull brakes, I have become such a fan that when I build my 
next dream steel bike I am thinking going with the Modern Dia-Compe 610s. 
 Enjoy the ride

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:29:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/



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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Thanks everyone for the kind words.  This really has been fun.  The racks 
and fenders setup has really got me excited.  Local (SF) retailer BoxDog 
Bikes has a 20% discount on all fenders through February, in part because 
we've had no rain.  I bought some smooth 700x50 Berthoud Stainless Steel 
jobbies from them.  The front and rear racks are the Velo Orange 
Constructeur models.  The rear attaches at the dropout and then twice to 
the fender and that's all!  Super clean look.  Since these steel fenders 
feel totally bomber I expect it'll be plenty solid.  It will be my first 
time to do an install like this, but it will be so old school and cool. 
 The front attaches at the dropout, once to the fender, and once through 
the fork crown daruma.  So, on a bike that has zero rack braze-ons, and no 
canti posts, I'll have front and rear racks with zero P-clamps.  I think 
that's so hot.  Anyway, stay tuned.  

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:28:56 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 This is terrific, Bill. I'm inspired by the flickr set, and it's a great 
 how-to. Can't wait to see how it all comes together with fenders and racks. 
 Many thanks for sharing.

 Shoji

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:25:22 AM UTC-5, Mojo wrote:

 Congratulations Bill. Enjoy the rides with your Dad. Thank you for 
 posting.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:29:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg


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[RBW] Re: Unracing from a non-Riv bike seller

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
I bet if Grant knows about it, it's because somebody else told him.  :-) 
 If he does know about it, I expect he's thrilled.  

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:47:13 AM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:

 Though I don't live in Atlanta anymore, I still like to keep up with bikey 
 doings in my hometown. Houndstooth Road is a local bike shop that sells 
 euro-styled sensible city cycles - Bobbin bikes, Bella Ciaos, Pilen, Royal 
 Dutch, Linus and the like - and they seem to be doing a pretty good 
 business. 

 I follow them on Facebook and noticed that they mentioned they'd started a 
 series of coffee shop rides around town, and suggested that people go to 
 the URL unracing.com to find out more. That URL redirects to their 
 website.  Now, I'm not sure if Grant has a patent on the whole unracer 
 idea, and I'm not even sure it would be a big enough deal for him to even 
 consider it, but I found it interesting that the concept seems to be 
 catching on and spreading.


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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread dougP
Noticed that  figured it was to keep a proper fender line.  It does give 
an idea of how lg those chainstays are!

dougP

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:15:00 AM UTC-8, EGNolan wrote:

 The bike looks amazing. Am I the only one that LOVES the fact it has both 
 a kickstand plate AND a chainstay bridge?

  
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[RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Shawn Granton
Eric-

My educated guess is that it's a Mountie model. Here's the 1967 catalog 
page:
http://www.kurtkaminer.com/1967raleighcat_us_05_lg.jpg
The Mountie was a 20 wheeled bike, and it's hard to tell from your photo 
what size wheels/how big the bike is. And in the catalog the Mountie was a 
single-speed/coaster braked model, whereas the one in your photo has 
caliper brakes and a S-A three-speed hub. So I don't know for sure.

In any case, the photo set looks like a good candidate for the Society of 
Three Speeds flickr group! (cough, cough)
;-)

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Re: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc
a little bit of shellac goes a long way - two coats is all you ever want.  
looking forward to seeing the final version - not that these things are 
ever quite finished - that is, unless you put them on a shelf.  
Keep riding.  


On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:03:37 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:

  This is my favorite bike story of the new year.  Partly because it’s not 
 only (or even mostly!) a bike story.  Well done, Bubba.

  

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 *Subject:* [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

  
  
  

 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg

  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Eric Norris
Shawn:

Very close, but the bike I saw has 26 wheels and was clearly designed for an 
adult. Do you have the rest of that catalog?

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 On Jan 22, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eric-
 
 My educated guess is that it's a Mountie model. Here's the 1967 catalog 
 page:
 http://www.kurtkaminer.com/1967raleighcat_us_05_lg.jpg
 The Mountie was a 20 wheeled bike, and it's hard to tell from your photo 
 what size wheels/how big the bike is. And in the catalog the Mountie was a 
 single-speed/coaster braked model, whereas the one in your photo has caliper 
 brakes and a S-A three-speed hub. So I don't know for sure.
 
 In any case, the photo set looks like a good candidate for the Society of 
 Three Speeds flickr group! (cough, cough)
 ;-)
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc
Eric, it's on the late Sheldon Browns Retro Raleighs website 
 http://sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/index.html#catalogues

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:44:57 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 Shawn:

 Very close, but the bike I saw has 26 wheels and was clearly designed for 
 an adult. Do you have the rest of that catalog?

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 urbanadven...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 Eric-

 My educated guess is that it's a Mountie model. Here's the 1967 catalog 
 page:
 http://www.kurtkaminer.com/1967raleighcat_us_05_lg.jpg
 The Mountie was a 20 wheeled bike, and it's hard to tell from your photo 
 what size wheels/how big the bike is. And in the catalog the Mountie was a 
 single-speed/coaster braked model, whereas the one in your photo has 
 caliper brakes and a S-A three-speed hub. So I don't know for sure.

 In any case, the photo set looks like a good candidate for the Society of 
 Three Speeds flickr group! (cough, cough)
 ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Shawn Granton
Yep, there. Also, the Headbadge has a larger repository of Raleigh catalogs:
http://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleigh_catdata.html
This is the 1967 one, but the Mountie is the only model that has a frame
that looks like the one in Eric's photos:
http://www.kurtkaminer.com/TH_raleigh_cat_us67.html

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Eric, it's on the late Sheldon Browns Retro Raleighs website
 http://sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/index.html#catalogues


 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:44:57 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 Shawn:

 Very close, but the bike I saw has 26 wheels and was clearly designed
 for an adult. Do you have the rest of that catalog?

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 Eric-

 My educated guess is that it's a Mountie model. Here's the 1967 catalog
 page:
 http://www.kurtkaminer.com/1967raleighcat_us_05_lg.jpg
 The Mountie was a 20 wheeled bike, and it's hard to tell from your photo
 what size wheels/how big the bike is. And in the catalog the Mountie was a
 single-speed/coaster braked model, whereas the one in your photo has
 caliper brakes and a S-A three-speed hub. So I don't know for sure.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-01-22 Thread dougP
tony:

I've never taken photos but it's pretty easy.  I just make a template from 
cardboard since it usually takes me a couple of shots to get it right.  
Then I cut the HDPE with a box cutter (this stuff is tough, use a new 
blade).  When I've gotten it properly fit, then drill holes where the zip 
ties need to be, and tie it in place.  I installed a Tubus Cosmo a while 
back but with our lack of rain haven't been motivated to make one for it.  
I'll take a photo when I do.

dougP

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:26:12 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Doug,

 Great suggestion about the HPDE, I am not sure that tires this size will 
 be a long term solution for my Atlantis but if it ends up being a regular 
 occurance I'll look into this stuff. I think I've seen something similar on 
 some of the fat-bike blogs actually.  Do you have any pictures of your 
 setup?

 Michael,

 Wood fenders would probably work, I'm guessing they are a bit thicker than 
 plastic/metal but not wrapping around the edges would keep the sizing 
 pretty easy.  I'm going to hold off on fenders for now and just ride it 
 around while we keep this colder weather w/ threat of snow.  We've got a 
 couple inches out there now so I may give it a go before it gets dark...

 Tony



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 I never knew Atlantii had those swirly curves on their chainstays until I 
 saw your Atlantis last month. I can see the curves in the pic. Very cool.

  
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RE: [RBW] ebay Atlantis 61 cm

2014-01-22 Thread Edwin W
If that frame sells for that price (and why not?), after 10 years of good and 
hard (not abusive) use, it will sell for more than its original price. 
Which was what?

Not to use original price to value it. It is worth less than a new Atlantis, 
and priced accordingly. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot!?

2014-01-22 Thread dougP
Chain bits are the last word in defensive parts hoarding, right up there 
with old cogs  short bits of cable.  

dougP

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:52:53 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP1070006.jpg

 Don't remember what I was looking for, but I was shuffling through cigar 
 boxes just the other day.  Came across all those little segments of chain 
 and wondering why I kept them.  Now I know.  


 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:00:16 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Actually, if you have to splice two chains together, it is, by 
 definition, a biggie. I made a joke!
  
 Joe tip your waiter Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:18:46 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Two bad jokes!  I love it.  That's a double raspberry!  It's believable 
 that a normal length chain would work with a 40t big ring with the 
 long-a-stays.  People that decide to go with a 48t big ring will most 
 likely have to splice something together.  No biggie.  

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:06:30 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:

 We nailed it at 117 links! Bad joke. It's 116, as I recall. That's with 
 a 28 x 24 double up front and an 11 x 26 rear. Another bad joke.
 I believe it really is 116. Mark was putting together the first one and 
 called us around to see. But that is with a 40t big ring, which makes 
 sense 
 on a bike like this. 

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:53:28 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 You mentioned the longer chainstays in the blug, Grant.  You didn't 
 mention that only the two larger sizes were getting the longer stays 
 prior 
 to this post, but people noticed the difference with the build pics of 
 the 
 50 came up on the BLUG.  

 Will the long-a-stay sizes need a longer-than-standard chain? 
  116links is the normal size, right?   

 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:32:17 AM UTC-8, grant wrote:

 Too many guys wanted the mixte but not  the Betty, so we renamed the 
 Betty, and then for the fun of it, lengthened the chainstays on the two 
 larger models (part of the longer chainstays are better craze around 
 here 
 lately). The diaga-stay angle varies with the frame size because  of the 
 tricky lower seat tube intersection. The 60 has a diff lug than the 50, 
 55. 

 On an anally faux-French level there would be no variation, but to me 
 (whose vote counts, I can't help that part), 1/4 of the beauty--the deep 
 inner secret beauty--of the Cheviot/Betty is something that is hard to 
 describe in words without seeming to sound like---that's not what I 
 MEANT!

 But some of the ingredients of the description are here: *It is as 
 good a bike as I can design, it has crazy unnecessary flourishes (the 
 seat 
 lug in particular, and the fork crown), and the graphics are spectacular 
 and unique, and yet it is (the hard part to describe) slightly rough 
 around 
 the edges in a way that would be unacceptable for a showstopper that 
 costs 
 2.5x as much, but is not just ACceptable for a bike of this price, but 
 actually adds to it in a humility kind of way.*

 A critic would call that a cop-out, but would be wrong. We're not out 
 to appeal to the wannabe 1950's  professor with a pipe. We want, and I 
 want, the Cheviot to be under the butts of super normal people who are 
 open 
 to a new world of bikes and a way of looking at them. I am probably too 
 involved in the bike to try to describe it at this emotional level, but 
 it 
 is something like that. I think it should be the most popular bike we've 
 ever made, but I also know diagatube and stays represent a high hurdle 
 to 
 many, and that's OK, too. It's not like it's a high-volume bike. We're 
 getting in about 2.2 per state, early March. I hope we can sell that 
 many 
 before August, and then the nexties might be in January.

 I can't believe I didn't mention the longer chainstays, but I'm glad 
 it came up. It was a can't see the forest for the trees thing.

 G

 G

 On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:50:33 PM UTC-8, Christopher Mungioli 
 wrote:

 So what's the story with the new Cheviot?  There still isn't a 
 description up on the site, and just from looking at pictures its hard 
 to 
 tell what makes it that much different from a betty foy, so why the 
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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Liesl
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:37:08 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 A few more pics on the Blug:
 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/74111526410/riv-chica-warriors-frame

 On the Blug:  Goodness, what a pleasure to read and see more pictures.  
Glad to know I'm not perceived as a pest as I know it was a true challenge 
to design.  As Grant put it to me, it was like trying to fit four balls 
into  three-anda-half holes.  What an outa-the-ballpark hit, eh?  I'm still 
astounded!  Every picture just gets better! (And thanks to Keven for 
talking about his Appaloosa and for saying, Stick with saying you want 55 
tires; Grant can do it.)

On the not-a-mixte point:  I am a fan of mixtes to be sure, but being a 
died-in-the-wool (where did that expression come from anyway?) tomboy all 
my life, I just couldn't do it.  Hats off to all the mixte-riding men out 
there (in addition to the women).

On the color scheme:  as I've previously written, it'll be a beautiful warm 
green (matched to my 1940-era BSA wool shirt) that had input from all the 
present Rivsters when I was out in March.  We looked at color chips in nice 
bright sun and I'm trusting Mark and JB to dial it in.  And, as per Grant, 
any color headtube as long as it's cream.  I also elected to have a 
fancy paint job meaning cream accents in nice luggy places.  As a side 
note, my protobleriot is a sandblasted clearcoat and is beautiful; I've 
just always wanted this color of a bike.

You can be sure that I will keep y'all posted with posts.

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Re: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
After the racks and fenders are done, it will go into full daily rider 
service.  Meanwhile, the real emotional part of the project can kick off. 
 Some of you will remember that my father and I were collaborating on the 
Grip King Supreme.  These were extra pedal cages that augment the Grip 
King.  We did the design, and made and sold a prototype batch here to the 
group.  If you search the archives or my flickr for Grip King Supreme 
you'll see them.  

When I picked up the bike over Christmas, I also picked up all the tooling 
my father had been working on to help get me into production.  The setup is 
not complete, and I'll have to reverse engineering the procedure, but I 
have a general idea of what he had in mind.  The real topper for the 
Windsor will be when I put on the Grip King Supremes.  Hopefully I will 
finally get into production, and the 20 or so emails I've saved from 
prospective customers will finally be returned.  

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:44:05 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 a little bit of shellac goes a long way - two coats is all you ever want.  
 looking forward to seeing the final version - not that these things are 
 ever quite finished - that is, unless you put them on a shelf.  
 Keep riding.  


 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:03:37 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:

  This is my favorite bike story of the new year.  Partly because it’s 
 not only (or even mostly!) a bike story.  Well done, Bubba.

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
 *On Behalf Of *Bill Lindsay
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:30 AM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

  
  
  

 I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
 around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
 that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
 power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
 racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
 racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
 rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
 so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.

 Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
 clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
 They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
 up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
 Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's 
 looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
 lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
 we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg

  

 Tons of 
 Photoshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157638367153736/

  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Shawn Granton
Here's another catalog from Three Speed Hub. This is 1962 UK catalog(ue).
Go down to page 34 and 35 and check out models 45L and 49L.
http://threespeedhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Raleigh-Catalog-1962-UK1.pdf
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot!?

2014-01-22 Thread sameness
I ♥ Short Bits of Cable

Jeff Hagedorn
San Diego, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot!?

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
Defensive parts hoarding!  I love this.  I need to hold on to this, 
because if I ever need it, then I'll need it, and I'll have it

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:57:54 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

 Chain bits are the last word in defensive parts hoarding, right up there 
 with old cogs  short bits of cable.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Eric Norris
Again, close but not exactly the same. The bike in my photos has a twin top 
tube, and a very 1960s-ish chrome fin on the top of the chainguard. It also 
apparently came with the rear rack built it. Not shown in the photos is a 
matching Raleigh seat bag that the owner took off so it wouldn't get stolen.

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Here's another catalog from Three Speed Hub. This is 1962 UK catalog(ue). Go 
 down to page 34 and 35 and check out models 45L and 49L.
 http://threespeedhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Raleigh-Catalog-1962-UK1.pdf
 -Shawn
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc
The half chain guard and cable brakes say it ought to be a Light Roadster 

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 1:28:57 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:

 Again, close but not exactly the same. The bike in my photos has a twin 
 top tube, and a very 1960s-ish chrome fin on the top of the chainguard. It 
 also apparently came with the rear rack built it. Not shown in the photos 
 is a matching Raleigh seat bag that the owner took off so it wouldn't get 
 stolen.

 --Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 22, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Shawn Granton 
 urbanadven...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 Here's another catalog from Three Speed Hub. This is 1962 UK catalog(ue). 
 Go down to page 34 and 35 and check out models 45L and 49L.

 http://threespeedhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Raleigh-Catalog-1962-UK1.pdf
 -Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
The IGH curious folks will approve of your mostly horizontal dropouts. 
 Just like the Appaloosa

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:02:21 AM UTC-8, Liesl wrote:

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:37:08 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 A few more pics on the Blug:
 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/74111526410/riv-chica-warriors-frame

 On the Blug:  Goodness, what a pleasure to read and see more pictures.  
 Glad to know I'm not perceived as a pest as I know it was a true challenge 
 to design.  As Grant put it to me, it was like trying to fit four balls 
 into  three-anda-half holes.  What an outa-the-ballpark hit, eh?  I'm still 
 astounded!  Every picture just gets better! (And thanks to Keven for 
 talking about his Appaloosa and for saying, Stick with saying you want 55 
 tires; Grant can do it.)

 On the not-a-mixte point:  I am a fan of mixtes to be sure, but being a 
 died-in-the-wool (where did that expression come from anyway?) tomboy all 
 my life, I just couldn't do it.  Hats off to all the mixte-riding men out 
 there (in addition to the women).

 On the color scheme:  as I've previously written, it'll be a beautiful 
 warm green (matched to my 1940-era BSA wool shirt) that had input from all 
 the present Rivsters when I was out in March.  We looked at color chips in 
 nice bright sun and I'm trusting Mark and JB to dial it in.  And, as per 
 Grant, any color headtube as long as it's cream.  I also elected to have 
 a fancy paint job meaning cream accents in nice luggy places.  As a side 
 note, my protobleriot is a sandblasted clearcoat and is beautiful; I've 
 just always wanted this color of a bike.

 You can be sure that I will keep y'all posted with posts.


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RE: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
A huge testimonial from here for the Grip King Supremes.  I have a set on my 
Mystery Bike, and there is no more comfortable pedal anywhere.  Here:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8366365230/in/set-72157630957672582/

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:04 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!

After the racks and fenders are done, it will go into full daily rider service. 
 Meanwhile, the real emotional part of the project can kick off.  Some of you 
will remember that my father and I were collaborating on the Grip King Supreme. 
 These were extra pedal cages that augment the Grip King.  We did the design, 
and made and sold a prototype batch here to the group.  If you search the 
archives or my flickr for Grip King Supreme you'll see them.

When I picked up the bike over Christmas, I also picked up all the tooling my 
father had been working on to help get me into production.  The setup is not 
complete, and I'll have to reverse engineering the procedure, but I have a 
general idea of what he had in mind.  The real topper for the Windsor will be 
when I put on the Grip King Supremes.  Hopefully I will finally get into 
production, and the 20 or so emails I've saved from prospective customers will 
finally be returned.

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:44:05 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
a little bit of shellac goes a long way - two coats is all you ever want.
looking forward to seeing the final version - not that these things are ever 
quite finished - that is, unless you put them on a shelf.
Keep riding.


On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 9:03:37 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
This is my favorite bike story of the new year.  Partly because it’s not only 
(or even mostly!) a bike story.  Well done, Bubba.

From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:30 AM
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] The Windsor Rides!



I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it around 
the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is that the 40 
year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking power.  I'm 
really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the racks and fenders 
are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The racks ought to be in 
soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the rack and fender install.  
Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, so this bike is S24O ready.  
It's full Alba-smile worthy.

Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with clear 
shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  They were 
down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged up.  It had 
splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  Whatever.  I 
bought it and have done a couple more coats of clear.  It's looking more 
amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks lighter than the side 
that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, we're making memories (as 
my mom always says)!

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg

 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg

Tons of Photoshttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg
 http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5506/12080685874_d8a0ba4d48_z.jpg
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RE: [RBW] Wanted: Tektro R559 brakes and a handlebar

2014-01-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
David:  I have a VO Porteur set of bars new, and several new Shimano cassettes 
in that kind of range, either or both of which I'd be happy to part with.  I 
can scout out the exact ranges on the cassettes tonight.  Tom

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To: internet-bob; rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Wanted: Tektro R559 brakes and a handlebar



Wanted for a mixte build:


1.  Tektro R559 brakes, silver, recessed/allen version. I have a set of the 
nutted version if you want to trade.

2.  Handlebar for 22.2mm (MTB) diameter grips/shifters/brakes: Albatross, 
Bosco, Jitensha flat bar, VO Porteur, whatcha got?

3.  9-speed Shimano MTB cassette like 11-34 or 12-32.


Thanks,

David G in San Diego


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Shawn Granton
In my not-that-educated knowledge of Raleigh of that era, it's hard to
pinpoint some of these off models, as the online record of catalogs (US,
UK, etc) are spotty and have several year gaps. Also, since Raleigh was the
800 pound gorilla of the industry of that era who did what they wanted to
and made lots of different bikes, there are some not-in-catalog varieties
out there.

Eric, if you want, I could forward this over to the Gentleman Cyclist list
and see if they come up with anything. They're pretty knowledgeable about
this stuff.

yours,
Shawn

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Eric Norris
Shawn:

That would be great. Defining characteristics are the twin top tube, 3-speed 
hub, full generator lighting, factory rack, seat bag, chrome fenders.

The owner will be very happy if we can find out what she's got.

--Eric N
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 On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 In my not-that-educated knowledge of Raleigh of that era, it's hard to 
 pinpoint some of these off models, as the online record of catalogs (US, UK, 
 etc) are spotty and have several year gaps. Also, since Raleigh was the 800 
 pound gorilla of the industry of that era who did what they wanted to and 
 made lots of different bikes, there are some not-in-catalog varieties out 
 there.
 
 Eric, if you want, I could forward this over to the Gentleman Cyclist list 
 and see if they come up with anything. They're pretty knowledgeable about 
 this stuff.
 
 yours,
 Shawn
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[RBW] FS: Noodle 46s $50 + SH

2014-01-22 Thread Conway Bennett
FS: Noodle 46s $50 + SH.  Just ordered Albatrosses.  No need for noodles on two 
bikes.

- Captain Conway 

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Re: [RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Rambouillet - 58cm blue

2014-01-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Please post further ride reports and photos!

Patrick Moore, who owns a 58 Ram in ABQ, NM


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:44 PM, MoVelo jlpoul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Eric

 I finally got the Ram built up and have taken it for a few rides. I have
 to say it lives up to the Rivendell reputation.


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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1450 + shipping

2014-01-22 Thread Dan McNamara
Well, it appears the link it not working. Checking what is wrong.

Sorry


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm
 Ram for sale.

 Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months
 or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either.

 It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too
 much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move
 it forward with a few upgrades.

 Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the
 bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave
 the brake cables  bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am
 including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural
 cork tape from RBW to complete things. The housing run from the TT
 stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is.

 Here are the build details:

 58 cm Rambouillet:

 Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs
 Grand Bois Cypres tires - recent
 Ultegra headset
 Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new
 Tektro R539 brakes - recent
 Shimano 105 triple front Der
 Deore LX rear der
 Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26
 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent
 Shimano 9-speed chain - recent
 Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way.
 Nitto Noodles 46cm
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem  8cm
 Nitto 65 seatpost

 Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages.

  I am including an extra pair of GB Cypres tires. So 4 tires total.

 If you are interested in a 650B conversion let me know as I might have
 a set of appropriate brakes to throw in.

 A local SF Bay Area sale is the easiest of course but I can pack the
 bike to ship for the cost of shipping plus whatever RBW wants for a
 bike box.

 Link to some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk

 Let me know if there are problems accessing the images. First time
 trying Dropbox for this type of thing.

 Questions? Ask away.

 Dan

 -Marin / Berkeley


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Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1450 + shipping

2014-01-22 Thread Peter Morgano
Worked for me..
On Jan 22, 2014 4:35 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm
 Ram for sale.

 Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months
 or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either.

 It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too
 much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move
 it forward with a few upgrades.

 Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the
 bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave
 the brake cables  bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am
 including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural
 cork tape from RBW to complete things. The housing run from the TT
 stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is.

 Here are the build details:

 58 cm Rambouillet:

 Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs
 Grand Bois Cypres tires - recent
 Ultegra headset
 Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new
 Tektro R539 brakes - recent
 Shimano 105 triple front Der
 Deore LX rear der
 Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26
 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent
 Shimano 9-speed chain - recent
 Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way.
 Nitto Noodles 46cm
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem  8cm
 Nitto 65 seatpost

 Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages.

  I am including an extra pair of GB Cypres tires. So 4 tires total.

 If you are interested in a 650B conversion let me know as I might have
 a set of appropriate brakes to throw in.

 A local SF Bay Area sale is the easiest of course but I can pack the
 bike to ship for the cost of shipping plus whatever RBW wants for a
 bike box.

 Link to some photos: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk

 Let me know if there are problems accessing the images. First time
 trying Dropbox for this type of thing.

 Questions? Ask away.

 Dan

 -Marin / Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Tektro R559 brakes and a handlebar

2014-01-22 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Thanks very much for the replies, I'm getting some brakes and an
Ahearne/MAP bar from Dan.

Best,

David G in SD


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:39 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:



 Wanted for a mixte build:


 1.  Tektro R559 brakes, silver, recessed/allen version. I have a set of
 the nutted version if you want to trade.

 2.  Handlebar for 22.2mm (MTB) diameter grips/shifters/brakes: Albatross,
 Bosco, Jitensha flat bar, VO Porteur, whatcha got?

 3.  9-speed Shimano MTB cassette like 11-34 or 12-32.


 Thanks,

 David G in San Diego




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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Tektro R559 brakes and a handlebar

2014-01-22 Thread Dan McNamara
PayPal no fee is great. da...@jps.net is the address to use.

I'll try to get them out tomorrow.

Dan



On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:58 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks very much for the replies, I'm getting some brakes and an
 Ahearne/MAP bar from Dan.

 Best,

 David G in SD


 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:39 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:



 Wanted for a mixte build:


 1.  Tektro R559 brakes, silver, recessed/allen version. I have a set of
 the nutted version if you want to trade.

 2.  Handlebar for 22.2mm (MTB) diameter grips/shifters/brakes: Albatross,
 Bosco, Jitensha flat bar, VO Porteur, whatcha got?

 3.  9-speed Shimano MTB cassette like 11-34 or 12-32.


 Thanks,

 David G in San Diego



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Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1450 + shipping

2014-01-22 Thread Dan McNamara
Thanks Peter.

Dan




On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 Worked for me..
 On Jan 22, 2014 4:35 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 After lots of pondering I have decided to offer up my green 2006 58cm
 Ram for sale.

 Need to thin the herd and prep for an unexpected arrival in 6.5 months
 or so. Not a bicycle arrival, either.

 It is a great bike. Nice but not perfect shape. Beausage but not too
 much. No dents. I bought the bike from the first owner - time to move
 it forward with a few upgrades.

 Some original and some new parts. I had just gotten into replacing the
 bar tape and brake levers when I made the decision so decided to leave
 the brake cables  bar wrap for the new owner to complete. I am
 including new brake cables/ black housing and a package of the natural
 cork tape from RBW to complete things. The housing run from the TT
 stop to the rear brake is fine and recent so I am leaving that as is.

 Here are the build details:

 58 cm Rambouillet:

 Mavic Open Pro / Ultegra hubs
 Grand Bois Cypres tires - recent
 Ultegra headset
 Origin 8 brake levers (Tektro R340) - new
 Tektro R539 brakes - recent
 Shimano 105 triple front Der
 Deore LX rear der
 Sugino triple crankset 48/36/26
 Shimano HG-61 11-34 cassette - recent
 Shimano 9-speed chain - recent
 Shimano 9-speed bar ends - indexes properly if you want to go that way.
 Nitto Noodles 46cm
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem  8cm
 Nitto 65 seatpost

 Not including the saddle, pedals/clips, or bottle cages.

  I am including an extra pair of GB Cypres tires. So 4 tires total.

 If you are interested in a 650B conversion let me know as I might have
 a set of appropriate brakes to throw in.

 A local SF Bay Area sale is the easiest of course but I can pack the
 bike to ship for the cost of shipping plus whatever RBW wants for a
 bike box.

 Link to some photos:
 https://www.dropbox.com/sc/3owvcanep0srgok/BC5eyQrHXk

 Let me know if there are problems accessing the images. First time
 trying Dropbox for this type of thing.

 Questions? Ask away.

 Dan

 -Marin / Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Tektro R559 brakes and a handlebar

2014-01-22 Thread Dan McNamara
Oh - and that should have been $100 including the VO bars. oops.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 1:58 PM, David Yu Greenblatt 
david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks very much for the replies, I'm getting some brakes and an
 Ahearne/MAP bar from Dan.

 Best,

 David G in SD


 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:39 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
 david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote:



 Wanted for a mixte build:


 1.  Tektro R559 brakes, silver, recessed/allen version. I have a set of
 the nutted version if you want to trade.

 2.  Handlebar for 22.2mm (MTB) diameter grips/shifters/brakes: Albatross,
 Bosco, Jitensha flat bar, VO Porteur, whatcha got?

 3.  9-speed Shimano MTB cassette like 11-34 or 12-32.


 Thanks,

 David G in San Diego



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Anne Paulson
It's DYED in the wool. That is, rather than cloth that is made and
then colored, dyed-in-the-wool cloth is made from wool that was
already dyed before the yarn was made into fabric.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:37:08 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 A few more pics on the Blug:
 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/74111526410/riv-chica-warriors-frame

 On the Blug:  Goodness, what a pleasure to read and see more pictures.  Glad
 to know I'm not perceived as a pest as I know it was a true challenge to
 design.  As Grant put it to me, it was like trying to fit four balls into
 three-anda-half holes.  What an outa-the-ballpark hit, eh?  I'm still
 astounded!  Every picture just gets better! (And thanks to Keven for talking
 about his Appaloosa and for saying, Stick with saying you want 55 tires;
 Grant can do it.)

 On the not-a-mixte point:  I am a fan of mixtes to be sure, but being a
 died-in-the-wool (where did that expression come from anyway?) tomboy all my
 life, I just couldn't do it.  Hats off to all the mixte-riding men out there
 (in addition to the women).

 On the color scheme:  as I've previously written, it'll be a beautiful warm
 green (matched to my 1940-era BSA wool shirt) that had input from all the
 present Rivsters when I was out in March.  We looked at color chips in nice
 bright sun and I'm trusting Mark and JB to dial it in.  And, as per Grant,
 any color headtube as long as it's cream.  I also elected to have a
 fancy paint job meaning cream accents in nice luggy places.  As a side
 note, my protobleriot is a sandblasted clearcoat and is beautiful; I've just
 always wanted this color of a bike.

 You can be sure that I will keep y'all posted with posts.

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[RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread David Hays



Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's Windsor 
I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick up some 
more things from their townhouse.
They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home 
with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and 
sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my 
siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th 
birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see 
them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is 
a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is 
made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
David Hays
Kenmore, New York
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg


  

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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-22 Thread Philip Williamson
A bit more work on the poster/graphic in the last two days. 
Black Block 
version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082803183/
Bright Color 
version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082799903/ 

I approached my friend to print us some posters 
(http://peternevins.bigcartel.com/), but quantity/price/interest are all 
TBD. I think the black block with a bright color on the bicycle would make 
a nice poster.
Someone on the list recommended a semi-local screenprinter, and I pinged 
them about tee-shirts, as well. I want to use water-soluble inks for the 
soft hand and low eco impact. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:18:21 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Aw, shucks! Thanks for the enthusiasm, it made my afternoon. Honestly, I 
 didn't think through the project any further than make cool graphic. I'll 
 put some effort into making tangible things (if only I still had that 
 screen press...).   

 Is there a printer in the house? 

 Philip 
 www.biketinker.com


 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:06:58 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:

 Well done!  And I too will sign up for whatever you choose to print it 
 on; T-shirt, poster, etc.  

 dougP

 On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:38:07 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Never mind: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12064611616/ 

 Philip
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sneak preview of the Riv Chica Warhorse

2014-01-22 Thread Liesl

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:27:49 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 It's DYED in the wool. That is, rather than cloth that is made and 
 then colored, dyed-in-the-wool cloth is made from wool that was 
 already dyed before the yarn was made into fabric. 


Anne, you save me again! I am an impossible speller and was thinking in my 
mind dyed-as-opposed-to-dead wool, but still wasn't sure of its origins.  
So in this context, I guess I'd have to say I'm a tomboy right down to the 
yarn, way before I was fabric!  Ha!  Steel before I was a bike frame!

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Re: [RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Eric Norris
David:

Looks like you have Valentino derailleurs (see the 1969 Campagnolo catalog 
here: http://campyonly.com/history/catalogs/catalog_16.pdf). Valentino gear is 
not particularly unusual or collectible, like Bill's bike they may hold more 
sentimental value.

Interesting side note: the Valentino gruppo was named for Tullio Campagnolo's 
son, who now heads the company. It's ironic that one of the company's 
lowest-priced and least desirable gruppos was chosen to carry Valentino's name.

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:31 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's Windsor I 
 took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick up some 
 more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home with 
 nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and sell what 
 hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my siblings 
 gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th birthday it 
 would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see them. It's 
 about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is a 
 Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is made 
 in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York
 
 
 
   
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rare Early 60s Raleigh - a set on Flickr

2014-01-22 Thread Eric Norris
Excellent! Thanks!

--Eric N
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CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
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 On Jan 22, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Eric, done! I also posted it to my blog and to tumblr. Let's see if we get 
 any other opinions.
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Re: [RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Peter Morgano
Not if you have Italian parents, haha
On Jan 22, 2014 7:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 David:

 Looks like you have Valentino derailleurs (see the 1969 Campagnolo catalog
 here: http://campyonly.com/history/catalogs/catalog_16.pdf). Valentino
 gear is not particularly unusual or collectible, like Bill's bike they may
 hold more sentimental value.

 Interesting side note: the Valentino gruppo was named for Tullio
 Campagnolo's son, who now heads the company. It's ironic that one of the
 company's lowest-priced and least desirable gruppos was chosen to carry
 Valentino's name.

 --Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:31 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:


 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's
 Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick
 up some more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home
 with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and
 sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my
 siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th
 birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see
 them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is
 a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is
 made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg




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[RBW] Re: Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm flattered that my project inspired you.  I think it's a great idea, 
depending on what you mean by worthy.  It's definitely a horrible 
investment.  My dad's windsor might have been worth $100 before I worked on 
it.  Now it's totally non-stock, but it's a rideable bike.  It's probably 
worth a tiny bit more, maybe $150, but I've probably put $600 and 50 hours 
of work into it.  Think about it like car people think about car 
restorations.  Do it if you'll enjoy doing it and if it will mean something 
to you.  The most enjoyable part about cycling for me is doing builds.  I 
enjoy doing builds more than I enjoy cycling (but I enjoy cycling a lot). 
 I would have a build in progress constantly if I could afford it and had 
the space.  My father gave me that love for working in the shop, and that's 
part of why I relished my rebuild of his bike.  

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:31:23 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote:


 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's 
 Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick 
 up some more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home 
 with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and 
 sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my 
 siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th 
 birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see 
 them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is 
 a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is 
 made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg


   


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
thats a sweet old bike and well worth the time and little money for new 
tires/cables/housing ect to get it up and running...ive spent time on a lot 
worse and have not regretted it much

mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

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Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night.
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[RBW] Re: Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Frank Brose
I'd restore it. Maybe not full on back to looking like new but repack the 
bearings,elbow grease to clean and polish,new cables,bar tape,a few parts 
and pieces,lube it and make it a rider. My guess is it has the potential to 
be a nice one.Hard to tell without more detailed pics but seeing what I see 
I'd say go for it.

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:31:23 PM UTC-6, David Hays wrote:


 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's 
 Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick 
 up some more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home 
 with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and 
 sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my 
 siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th 
 birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see 
 them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is 
 a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is 
 made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg


   


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Re: [RBW] Re: The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
Deacon,

My Brother...I understand and am touched by your deep understanding of the
seen and unseen.

Peace,

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Enter now deeply and all moments open wide their arms and embrace you.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:35:13 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

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 moving. -- Albert Einstein

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Re: [RBW] The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
Cocochen,

To a point.

~Hugh

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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 Wait this is about a righteous ride, isn't that the point?!

 Approved.


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 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
Chris,

You nailed it! I have noticed you are an insightful and curious individual
and enjoy your wit.

With regards to impermanence and attachment I practice an Eastern
Philosophy and admire the Buddha' wisdom.

Looking forward to meeting you this coming Summer.

~Hugh

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moving. -- Albert Einstein

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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 Hugh:

 Regarding mortality and passing: In a buddhist way of thinking, there's
 always the concept of impermanence, and of attachment, the desire for
 permanence and the suffering that occurs when things pass, people pass,
 friends and beloved animals pass.

 One natural reaction is to grab tighter, to become more afraid of loss,
 but I can see from your post that you've come to live in the moment and
 look with clear eyes and an open heart.

 And that makes me glad.

 cc


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
St. Ignatius describes something similar: holy equipoise. Holy equipoise is 
the ability to detach oneself from any particular outcome in order to see 
the options of a given moment more clearly. In essence, loving deeply can 
often best achieve right relationship through detachment.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:51:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 You nailed it! I have noticed you are an insightful and curious individual 
 and enjoy your wit.

 With regards to impermanence and attachment I practice an Eastern 
 Philosophy and admire the Buddha' wisdom.

 Looking forward to meeting you this coming Summer. 

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




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 cc...@nougat.orgjavascript:
  wrote:

 Hugh:

 Regarding mortality and passing: In a buddhist way of thinking, there's 
 always the concept of impermanence, and of attachment, the desire for 
 permanence and the suffering that occurs when things pass, people pass, 
 friends and beloved animals pass.

 One natural reaction is to grab tighter, to become more afraid of loss, 
 but I can see from your post that you've come to live in the moment and 
 look with clear eyes and an open heart.

 And that makes me glad.

 cc


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts or 
 RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
 .

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 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
  
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Re: [RBW] The why post? You decide.

2014-01-22 Thread Patrick Moore
In one word: *Bhagavad Gita*. Action without desire for the fruits of
action. In Christian, and more anthropomorphic terms, doing all for the
will of God. A hard lesson indeed! But the result will be the return to
the source (Taoist phrase) where all opposition finds its natural
resolution in perfect equilibrium.

Most of our fretting is based on illusion.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 St. Ignatius describes something similar: holy equipoise. Holy equipoise
 is the ability to detach oneself from any particular outcome in order to
 see the options of a given moment more clearly. In essence, loving deeply
 can often best achieve right relationship through detachment.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 6:51:09 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Chris,

 You nailed it! I have noticed you are an insightful and curious
 individual and enjoy your wit.

 With regards to impermanence and attachment I practice an Eastern
 Philosophy and admire the Buddha' wisdom.

 Looking forward to meeting you this coming Summer.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.orgwrote:

 Hugh:

 Regarding mortality and passing: In a buddhist way of thinking, there's
 always the concept of impermanence, and of attachment, the desire for
 permanence and the suffering that occurs when things pass, people pass,
 friends and beloved animals pass.

 One natural reaction is to grab tighter, to become more afraid of loss,
 but I can see from your post that you've come to live in the moment and
 look with clear eyes and an open heart.

 And that makes me glad.

 cc


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sort of off topic...not so much about specific Rivendell bikes, parts
 or RBW HQ doings but there were two Hilsen's involved isn't that enough?

 So read a rambling report about a recent ramble 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
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[RBW] Re: Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread hsmitham
Bill,

Well stated...my wife comes home and finds me wrenching in the garage and 
later tells me I have a huge smile on my face. I think I'm a freak but I 
love the smell of Phil Wood grease it's a comfort smell maybe it should be 
my new cologne?

In terms of worth and building a bike up I realize while I rebuild this 
Trek 850 it's a losing proposition in terms of money spent, however it's 
how I choose to spend my time and I rationalize that it'll be a family  
friends loaner bike. Plus I'm learning and honing my skills so when I build 
up the next bike I'll be better prepared, nothing like doing to learn. And 
when out on the road or in the outback one can make repairs and not get 
stuck.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 4:17:43 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I'm flattered that my project inspired you.  I think it's a great idea, 
 depending on what you mean by worthy.  It's definitely a horrible 
 investment.  My dad's windsor might have been worth $100 before I worked on 
 it.  Now it's totally non-stock, but it's a rideable bike.  It's probably 
 worth a tiny bit more, maybe $150, but I've probably put $600 and 50 hours 
 of work into it.  Think about it like car people think about car 
 restorations.  Do it if you'll enjoy doing it and if it will mean something 
 to you.  The most enjoyable part about cycling for me is doing builds.  I 
 enjoy doing builds more than I enjoy cycling (but I enjoy cycling a lot). 
  I would have a build in progress constantly if I could afford it and had 
 the space.  My father gave me that love for working in the shop, and that's 
 part of why I relished my rebuild of his bike.  

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:31:23 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote:


 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's 
 Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick 
 up some more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home 
 with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and 
 sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my 
 siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th 
 birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see 
 them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, 
 is a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is 
 made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg


   



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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-22 Thread Mike Williams
Absolutely wonderful Philip!  Thanks so much for sharing

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 A bit more work on the poster/graphic in the last two days. 
 Black Block version: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082803183/
 Bright Color version: 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082799903/ 
 
 I approached my friend to print us some posters 
 (http://peternevins.bigcartel.com/), but quantity/price/interest are all TBD. 
 I think the black block with a bright color on the bicycle would make a nice 
 poster.
 Someone on the list recommended a semi-local screenprinter, and I pinged them 
 about tee-shirts, as well. I want to use water-soluble inks for the soft hand 
 and low eco impact. 
 
 Philip
 www.biketinker.com
 
 
 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:18:21 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
 Aw, shucks! Thanks for the enthusiasm, it made my afternoon. Honestly, I 
 didn't think through the project any further than make cool graphic. I'll 
 put some effort into making tangible things (if only I still had that screen 
 press...).   
 
 Is there a printer in the house? 
 
 Philip 
 www.biketinker.com
 
 
 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:06:58 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
 Well done!  And I too will sign up for whatever you choose to print it on; 
 T-shirt, poster, etc.  
 
 dougP
 
 On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:38:07 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
 Never mind: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12064611616/ 
 Philip
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Re: [RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Photos of the Bianchi? It's a respectable marque (unlike, say, Scattante).


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:31 PM, David Hays 23writ...@gmail.com wrote:


 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's
 Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick
 up some more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home
 with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and
 sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my
 siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th
 birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see
 them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, is
 a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is
 made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg




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Re: [RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Edwin W
Bars turned up like that is Rivish before Riv existed. 

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Re: [RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc
certainly a worthwhile project, whether you simply rub it and restore the 
bearings or treat it as a frame and Riv-ize it. Either way, a classy ride. 
 Not so much an investment, but a labor of love.  
It's a beautiful lugged frame - I'm sure you can get decals for it.   

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:28:47 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Photos of the Bianchi? It's a respectable marque (unlike, say, Scattante).


 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:31 PM, David Hays 23wr...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:


 Inspired by Bill Lindsey's restoration/resurrection of his Father's 
 Windsor I took another look at my Father's old Bianchi as I stopped to pick 
 up some more things from their townhouse.
 They are ninety and just last November moved into in a retirement  home 
 with nursing care for my Mother. We are about to have an estate sale and 
 sell what hasn't been picked up by family members.
 I certainly have more bikes than I need but was thinking as I and my 
 siblings gave bicycles-including this Bianchi-to my parents on their 60th 
 birthday it would be nice to bring this back to life and ride it out to see 
 them. It's about 16 miles roundtrip from my house to their residence.
 Besides the sentimental drive which would probably carry for me anyway, 
 is a Bianchi of this age and condition a worthy candidate for restoration?
 I don't know how to identify the model but it is lugged and the frame is 
 made in Italy. The front derailleur and DT shifters are Campagnola.
 Any advice would be appreciated.
 Thanks.
 David Hays
 Kenmore, New York

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5AgU54Fh8Ro/UuBUaAqXNWI/AR0/OZswjz2iTP0/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-1.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T6ea1rjYIGk/UuBUizNZMqI/AR8/Gz9jqPzm9IY/s1600/Dad%27s-Bianchi-2.jpg


   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot!?

2014-01-22 Thread cyclotourist
Oh, they laughed then, but there would be no laughing when they needed
three extra chain links. Oh no, then we would see who would be laughing...
muah-haha-ha, muah-HA-HA-HA!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot!?

2014-01-22 Thread Ron Mc
I didn't say I threw mine away...God bless power links

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 Oh, they laughed then, but there would be no laughing when they needed 
 three extra chain links. Oh no, then we would see who would be laughing... 
 muah-haha-ha, muah-HA-HA-HA!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/12095983995/ 



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Re: [RBW] Bianchi

2014-01-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Weird: on the first go-'round, the photo did not come through on my screen.


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[RBW] Re: Another RBBH Visit

2014-01-22 Thread hsmitham
Tony,

Nice write up with interesting insights. I'll make it up there soon. And I 
really wish the best for Rob as he's a nice guy with a great product.

~Hugh

On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:09:46 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Woohoo!  I got in a visit to the mothership last week...  Thanks to Keven 
 for the conversation and information.  Cool to put a face with the helpfull 
 email.  As part of the visit I got a demo ride on a 58cm TT Sam w/ the new 
 albastache bars.  My favorite part of the store was actually the ceiling 
 grid of bells.  Amazingly quirky and beautiful.  My attempt at a 650B frame 
 discussion was very quickly poo-pohed unfortunately, and as there wasn't a 
 58/650B AHH around for a demo anyway it was a mute point. Maybe next time 
 I'll swing into the HQ and check that out instead.  I bought one of the 
 medium shopsacks and a t shirt, that shopsack is my new favorite bag!

 Pictures prove it happened:

 http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/rivendell-bike-book-and-hatchet-visit.html


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[RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-01-22 Thread hsmitham
Tony,

Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right. And 
those Kenda's look great. Here's a 
DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for 
studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for 
studs...on the matter of snow and fenders I've seen never experienced the 
jam up and it seems like not running with them in snow sort of makes sense, 
and what Steve P. said about the flat fender I believe is correct  perhaps 
wear something to protect against the wet strip up the back.

~Hugh

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in 
 session till July 4th at this rate!  Supposedly we're in for our biggest 
 snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it.  I don't have true 
 snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block 
 Eight tires at the co-op recently and had been hoping to try them out on my 
 Atlantis.  700Cx54mm tires!  I need to measure the actuals on my 23mm Dyad 
 rims but they fit just fine once the fenders came off.  I also finally got 
 around to moutning my front Nitto rack/basket/light setup.  Peter White can 
 rest assured that I've maintained the centerline, above tire location of 
 the light but he'll be upset that I don't have fender coverage for the 
 beastie...  I'll keep an eye on it and possibly add some kind of splash 
 protection.  It's a sweet light, and I can see based on the light pattern 
 why keeping it center and over tire is desireable.  Stand over w/ the 
 monster tires is not improved for me... predictably, but it is fun.  I'm 
 going to take it for a spin this morning before the snow comes in then 
 we'll see about later!  More pix on the blog - 
 http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/monster-snow-cross-atlantis.html

 Tony


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Re: [RBW] Re: Another RBBH Visit

2014-01-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Thanks guys!  I was lucky to squeeze in a visit, I really want to get back
there and get the chance to spend some more time and explore the HQ as
well.  Oh and I'm sizing up all the rooms in my house for which one is
getting the ceiling bell grid treatment... guest bathroom...? :)

Tony



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 Tony,

 Nice write up with interesting insights. I'll make it up there soon. And I
 really wish the best for Rob as he's a nice guy with a great product.

 ~Hugh

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:09:46 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Woohoo!  I got in a visit to the mothership last week...  Thanks to Keven
 for the conversation and information.  Cool to put a face with the helpfull
 email.  As part of the visit I got a demo ride on a 58cm TT Sam w/ the new
 albastache bars.  My favorite part of the store was actually the ceiling
 grid of bells.  Amazingly quirky and beautiful.  My attempt at a 650B frame
 discussion was very quickly poo-pohed unfortunately, and as there wasn't a
 58/650B AHH around for a demo anyway it was a mute point. Maybe next time
 I'll swing into the HQ and check that out instead.  I bought one of the
 medium shopsacks and a t shirt, that shopsack is my new favorite bag!

 Pictures prove it happened:
 http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/rivendell-bike-book-
 and-hatchet-visit.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-01-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Hugh,

I'm with you, I haven't ridden that much since the new tires are on but I
love the look of the bike... rough and ready...  I did take it out in the
snow tonight for my shift at the bike co-op.  Really short ride but on my
way home I strayed into a small park with plenty of snow on grass with tree
roots.  I felt like a little kid, lots of fun!  Not going anywhere, not
logging miles, only spending about 10 min really...

The tires did great on the streets which are still a bit of a mess in my
neighborhood, hardpack snow, salt, black ice, and clear pavement all in
random patches.  On the snowy park I was definitely able to loose traction
with some turns but for such small tread they gave me more confidence than
I had anticipated.  Enough that I'm actually contemplating commuting
tomorrow. Going to be mighty cold, I'll make the call in the morning.

The DIY studs are intriguing! Might be a fun project though I'm not sure
these tires are a good candidate.  I'm definitely jealous of your
snow-less, moderate to amazing constant weather patterns!

Tony


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:03 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tony,

 Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right. And
 those Kenda's look great. Here's a 
 DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for 
 studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for
 studs...on the matter of snow and fenders I've seen never experienced the
 jam up and it seems like not running with them in snow sort of makes sense,
 and what Steve P. said about the flat fender I believe is correct  perhaps
 wear something to protect against the wet strip up the back.

 ~Hugh


 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
 session till July 4th at this rate!  Supposedly we're in for our biggest
 snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it.  I don't have true
 snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block
 Eight tires at the co-op recently and had been hoping to try them out on my
 Atlantis.  700Cx54mm tires!  I need to measure the actuals on my 23mm Dyad
 rims but they fit just fine once the fenders came off.  I also finally got
 around to moutning my front Nitto rack/basket/light setup.  Peter White can
 rest assured that I've maintained the centerline, above tire location of
 the light but he'll be upset that I don't have fender coverage for the
 beastie...  I'll keep an eye on it and possibly add some kind of splash
 protection.  It's a sweet light, and I can see based on the light pattern
 why keeping it center and over tire is desireable.  Stand over w/ the
 monster tires is not improved for me... predictably, but it is fun.  I'm
 going to take it for a spin this morning before the snow comes in then
 we'll see about later!  More pix on the blog - http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/
 2014/01/monster-snow-cross-atlantis.html

 Tony


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7RiNKo6Y7qQ/Ut5sIUqO9SI/DGQ/RuEQK8JVgD8/s1600/RAD_1040.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G_p7K346CpU/Ut5sIcpa1PI/DGk/7zjswNk1ajo/s1600/RAD_1042.jpg



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[RBW] Re: Bikes for sale-Michigan area listers please take note

2014-01-22 Thread Evan
Beautiful bikes, Steve! I'll be surprised (and a bit confused) if they 
don't sell quickly. Orange X0-1!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!

2014-01-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
Tony,

Don't be jealous, were in major a drought I can't remember the last time we
had rain?? And the high pressure pushing the jet stream North and East has
created an inversion layer which  traps nitrogen oxide and carbon
particulates close to the ground making breathing a bummer. Yeah it's nice
to have Sunny days in the 80's but then there's the too much of a good
thing issue.

I'm about to do a medicine dance to summon the rain Gods.

So bundle up and take a short ride in that blustery weather my friend.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hugh,

 I'm with you, I haven't ridden that much since the new tires are on but I
 love the look of the bike... rough and ready...  I did take it out in the
 snow tonight for my shift at the bike co-op.  Really short ride but on my
 way home I strayed into a small park with plenty of snow on grass with tree
 roots.  I felt like a little kid, lots of fun!  Not going anywhere, not
 logging miles, only spending about 10 min really...

 The tires did great on the streets which are still a bit of a mess in my
 neighborhood, hardpack snow, salt, black ice, and clear pavement all in
 random patches.  On the snowy park I was definitely able to loose traction
 with some turns but for such small tread they gave me more confidence than
 I had anticipated.  Enough that I'm actually contemplating commuting
 tomorrow. Going to be mighty cold, I'll make the call in the morning.

 The DIY studs are intriguing! Might be a fun project though I'm not sure
 these tires are a good candidate.  I'm definitely jealous of your
 snow-less, moderate to amazing constant weather patterns!

 Tony


 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:03 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tony,

 Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right. And
 those Kenda's look great. Here's a 
 DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for
  studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for
 studs...on the matter of snow and fenders I've seen never experienced the
 jam up and it seems like not running with them in snow sort of makes sense,
 and what Steve P. said about the flat fender I believe is correct  perhaps
 wear something to protect against the wet strip up the back.

 ~Hugh


 On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
 session till July 4th at this rate!  Supposedly we're in for our biggest
 snowfall since 2011 but I'll believe it when I see it.  I don't have true
 snow tires, but I did pick up some sweet used 29x2.1 Kenda Small Block
 Eight tires at the co-op recently and had been hoping to try them out on my
 Atlantis.  700Cx54mm tires!  I need to measure the actuals on my 23mm Dyad
 rims but they fit just fine once the fenders came off.  I also finally got
 around to moutning my front Nitto rack/basket/light setup.  Peter White can
 rest assured that I've maintained the centerline, above tire location of
 the light but he'll be upset that I don't have fender coverage for the
 beastie...  I'll keep an eye on it and possibly add some kind of splash
 protection.  It's a sweet light, and I can see based on the light pattern
 why keeping it center and over tire is desireable.  Stand over w/ the
 monster tires is not improved for me... predictably, but it is fun.  I'm
 going to take it for a spin this morning before the snow comes in then
 we'll see about later!  More pix on the blog -
 http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/monster-snow-cross-atlantis.html

 Tony


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