date:20140521

Yet another post raving about the GAP... this trail is truly a national
treasure! My Dad and I did the trip from Frostburg, MD to Pittsburgh, PA
over 3 days last Thurs-Sat. Through some really fantastic luck we actually
avoided getting drenched till a random cloudburst near Mckeesport finally
got us on Saturday. The tremendous deluge on Thursday hit Rockwood
literally as we rolled into our guest house accommodations and the storm
passed early the next morning making Friday a chilly but wonderful riding
day. I took alot of pictures along the way and I'm splitting them up into
segments on my blog, I should probably edit a little deeper but for anyone
trying to get a feel for the trail I think more pictures might be helpful
so I'm indulging in a pretty heavy dose of photos! I'll post up here as I
get them up.

Riv Content - The purple-luki handled the trail with every bit of grace you
would expect. We were pretty lightly loaded given that we were BB or
guest housing it for accommodations. I only needed clothes, personal
electronics, spares, tools, water and snacks. I need to weigh the kit but
my guess is less than 30 lbs. I'll put up some more gear related thoughts
soon once I've had a bit more time to think about it. My cargo carrying
was accomplished with a Carradice longflap in the back over a Nitto R-14
and a Sackville Medium in a Wald 137 up front. That did put most of my
weight carried up hi but as it is my general commuting setup I didn't
notice any handling issues. I'd like to try a lower riding pannier setup
sometime to compare. One piece of gear I wish I'd had - An Axe! :) or a
folding saw anyway, we came across a number of downed trees that we could
mostly get the bikes up and over easily but I just saw on the GAP Facebook
page that a landslide caused a more serious blockage just after we'd gone
by. Mostly I'm bemoaning missing the opportunity to strap a hatchet to the
bike... next time!

I'm already three posts deep in my GAP retrospective on the blog so here
you go;

Previewhttp://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/farther-son-gap-trip-preview.html

Frostburg - Mason Dixon Line
Galleryhttp://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/gap-trip-gallery-1-frostburg-mason.html

Mason Dixon Line - Rockwood Gallery
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/gap-trip-gallery-2-mason-dixon-line.html

I'll leave off w/ some more Riv Content... I rode the Purple-Luki all the
way to Pittsburgh but I returned with a Fairway Green-Luki courtesy of Bill
E. The Purple torch has been passed, I enjoyed my time with her very much
and I'm really looking forward to getting the Fairway Green Saluki built
up. In the end the agapanthus purple just wasn't for me but I can't wait
to see what Bill does with her. I've got some stripped down side by side
frame shot's coming soon from our meet up and swap.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3mQx9gOy7_A/U3niuXgp59I/D_4/LNF6rj0rdUQ/s1600/DSC_3258.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Mirrors and gadgets (was Why Wear a Helmet?)

2014-05-21 Thread Ron Mc

Our - hang in there, bro and be careful out there.

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:25:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

Dear Jim,

My deep condolences for the senseless loss of your friend.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:03:32 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Doug Williams sal...@minbaritm.comwrote:

Now I have a handlebar mount for my phone! Is there any hope for me? Can
I escape this gadget addiction?

Doug

*JimD*

I wear a helmet as insurance. Besides it's where I mount my mirror.

I'd ride without the helmet before I rode without the mirror but, as it
is, they are inextricably linked.

Maybe we can have a 'discussion' about the use of mirrors?

As to helmets and horses go watch the cross country portion of a 3 day
trials. Those folks wear helmets some of them still get killed.

-JimD

I'm with you Jim, I can't ride without my mirror

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Re: [RBW] Pedal Strike - LongLow

2014-05-21 Thread Patrick Moore

I have the opposite problem: I ride fixed so much that even on coasters I
corner very delicately -- in fact, I've lost many of such bike handling
skills I once had for this reason. But I have clipped a fixed gear pedal
once or twice, fortunately not falling.

My advice: be mindful. I do have something to keep in mind on the (coaster)
Ram that I don't have to mind on my other bikes (2 26 roads, Fargo): toe
overlap. It's not a big deal, but I have to keep it in mind.

In fact, one benefit of riding fixed is this sort of anticipatory
mindfulness that becomes a habit and -- one hopes -- carries over to other
bikes and other conditions.

One great pleasure of a former fixie, a high-bb Diamond Back mtb shod with
tall 60 mm Big Apples, was that I could lean into corners with little
danger of hitting a pedal.


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:44 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, winter has finally passed and the road grit has mostly been swept
 away, so the LongLow came out of storage (the livingroom - where else?) and
 I was enjoying whipping along at speeds I'd all but forgotten about on my
 80's mountain bike that continues reliably in all conditions, but is dogged
 about it.  The problem is that the mountain bike has a high bottom bracket
 and will not pedal strike even when pedaling during tight lean through turn.

 First day out on the LL this year and I hit speeds of 55km/h (downhill),
 but even on the flats the computer told me 40 km/h once or twice.  Such
 fun.  Sadly, at quite low speed thankfully, I turned sharply, pedaling
 through grounding my pedal and stalling the bike.  The pannier saved the
 bike from scratches and I was unscathed.  A little rubber shaved off the
 bar end shifter.

 It used to be my habit to coast through hard turns with the pedal in the
 12 o clock position on the lean side.  I'm concerned that I've been
 retrained by my mountain bike.  I'm worried that I'll forget one time too
 many.  Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, does the body remember when
 the mind is absent?  The LL has such a low bb that if one forgets pedal
 strike is to be expected.

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“Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was
there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where
is there a place for you to be? No place.

Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look
at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it.
You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
in your time and your body can they be?
Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show
me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus
had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you
can find it?”
― Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood

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Re: [RBW] Pedal Strike - LongLow

2014-05-21 Thread Tim Gavin

I ride a similar setup to Jim, a Riv Road converted to 650b, and I scrape a
pedal occasionally.  Never catastrophically, just the light scrape when
pedaling around a curve with uneven or up-sloping terrain on the inside.

Like Patrick, I usually try to take care.  I didn't ride enough this winter
to start any bad habits, even with studs on my KOM; Iowa was pretty frozen
too.

IYou can always swap on a shorter crank for a bit more clearance.  I
swapped my 175 Campy Racing T crank for a 170 Stronglight 99 and like the
change.

Pedals can make a big difference in clearance, too.

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the opposite problem: I ride fixed so much that even on coasters I
 corner very delicately -- in fact, I've lost many of such bike handling
 skills I once had for this reason. But I have clipped a fixed gear pedal
 once or twice, fortunately not falling.

 My advice: be mindful. I do have something to keep in mind on the
 (coaster) Ram that I don't have to mind on my other bikes (2 26 roads,
 Fargo): toe overlap. It's not a big deal, but I have to keep it in mind.

 In fact, one benefit of riding fixed is this sort of anticipatory
 mindfulness that becomes a habit and -- one hopes -- carries over to other
 bikes and other conditions.

 One great pleasure of a former fixie, a high-bb Diamond Back mtb shod with
 tall 60 mm Big Apples, was that I could lean into corners with little
 danger of hitting a pedal.


 On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:44 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, winter has finally passed and the road grit has mostly been swept
 away, so the LongLow came out of storage (the livingroom - where else?) and
 I was enjoying whipping along at speeds I'd all but forgotten about on my
 80's mountain bike that continues reliably in all conditions, but is dogged
 about it.  The problem is that the mountain bike has a high bottom bracket
 and will not pedal strike even when pedaling during tight lean through turn.

 First day out on the LL this year and I hit speeds of 55km/h (downhill),
 but even on the flats the computer told me 40 km/h once or twice.  Such
 fun.  Sadly, at quite low speed thankfully, I turned sharply, pedaling
 through grounding my pedal and stalling the bike.  The pannier saved the
 bike from scratches and I was unscathed.  A little rubber shaved off the
 bar end shifter.

 It used to be my habit to coast through hard turns with the pedal in the
 12 o clock position on the lean side.  I'm concerned that I've been
 retrained by my mountain bike.  I'm worried that I'll forget one time too
 many.  Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, does the body remember when
 the mind is absent?  The LL has such a low bb that if one forgets pedal
 strike is to be expected.

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 was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it.
 Where is there a place for you to be? No place.

 Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to
 look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind
 it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into
 somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your
 daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is
 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was
 any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there,
 because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where
 in your time and your body can they be?
 Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show
 me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus
 had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you
 can find it?”
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[RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

2014-05-21 Thread blakcloud

That was a nice read, thanks for sharing it. Looking forward to more 
photos. 


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[RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

2014-05-21 Thread Deacon Patrick

Fantastic, Tony! That's a lot of tunnels. Those wind turbines drive me 
nuts, with their visual motion and mostly their infrasound they put out. 
You describe it well when you say you can feel the vibration they make. 
Green energy is not pollution free.

To reveal my ignorance, I had no idea there was an Eastern Continental 
Divide. Makes sense, given the mountain ranges.

What a wonderful gift to get to spend time with your Dad that way! That is 
the most beautiful thing about the trip report, and there was a lot of 
beauty to be seen.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-21 Thread Shoji Takahashi

Hi Mark,
Did you try Keven or Brian at Riv? They both run VBC cranks.
Brian's Hunqapillar http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff10.htm
Keven's Appaloosa http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff3.htm

Good eye on the Radavist-- it seems like Jared (at Riv) may have insight 
into the BB length.

Keep me/us posted!
Shoji


On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:37:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Since this has been a topic on my mind, I just noticed that the 
 hunqapillar on the Radavist has the White Industries *road* VBC cranks, 
 which have a very narrow Q factor, plus 46/36 rings, which should be even 
 harder to fit than my situation. Confounding!
 http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#8

 So far emailing back and forth with W.I. and Riv hasn't turned up a 
 solution. Confusion continues. 

 On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:34:21 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Well it's still a mystery. I used some callipers to measure the BB in my 
 frame, it's 114 from end-to-end and my rings bottom out on the frame before 
 the BB taper even starts to make full contact. Using the instructions on 
 the white industries website, they'd have me running a spindle over 140, 
 which cannot be right. I've emailed them as well as Mark at Riv for advice. 
 My local shop doesn't have square taper BB's past 125, which I would have 
 thought would be adequate. 

 There are enough photos of Atlantis' with VBC cranks to make me know this 
 is a doable combination, but many of them seem to have smaller inner rings 
 - usually around 30 or smaller. I'm wondering if the size of my inner ring 
 is too large with the Atlantis flared chain stays. I hope to have this 
 sorted out soon, the remaining parts for the bike are arriving this week 
 and this is all that will hold me back.

 On Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:02:48 PM UTC-5, bicyc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm rolling a 40x24, for climbing infinity and maximum clearance. I'm 
 within a few mm of rubbing 60s. Not sure if I have a 113 or 118 down there, 
 been a year or so since I replaced it.


 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.t...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wow, really? Erik of Bikenoir/Cosmic Country mentioned 113mm BB on the 
 Hunqapillar. I have a VBC Mountain and 113mm waiting for installation in 
 the box... maybe I'll need to plan on a longer time window before 
 venturing.

 Here's the link to the thread on 113/VBC/Hunqapillar: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!starred/rbw-owners-bunch/jE_W_ff3RSU
  

 Good luck, Mark. 
 shoji

 On Friday, May 16, 2014 7:39:33 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just got a pair of White Industries mountain VBC cranks with a 46/36 
 ring combination for my Atlantis build. There is a 113mm BB in the frame 
 currently and it is way too short to run these cranks, which isn't that 
 surprising. I followed the instructions on the WI website and it looks 
 like 
 I'll need a BB somewhere in the 130mm range, which seems very long to me.


 Is anyone out there running the VBC cranks on an Atlantis? Care to 
 share the inner ring size and BB length for comparison please?

 Thanks!

 Mark

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[RBW] Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

2014-05-21 Thread jphillip...@icloud.com

Hi,

   Has anyone used a Tanaka decaleur? Know anyone who has? It looks pretty 
easy to mount and rather adjustable:

http://store.somafab.com/tadeforth11.html

I would just like a little more info than what I could see on the Soma 
website before I pull the trigger  buy one.

Thanks much,

John  (who wears a helmet or his wife will hit him and make him wish he did)

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[RBW] Re: sun sleeves?

2014-05-21 Thread allroy71

I use these ones from Voler. Not cheap, but very durable material. I too 
hate sunscreen and I was getting tired of the increasing arm freckles!!

http://www.voler.com/browse/product/li/1240182

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Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?

2014-05-21 Thread OS125

Patrick,

I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it 
to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version 
in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a 
Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine. 
The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over 
sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the 
flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found 
wanting. 

Chris 
near Boston

On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:56:57 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I wish the '03 would fit the Compass tires with fenders, but it won't -- 
 ~32 mm is the maximum with adequate gap. 

 I find that if I run the Kojaks a wee bit higher than I'd like to (~60/65 
 versus 55/60) they roll well enough. I am presently doubting whether the 
 Primo Racers would add enough to earn the cost and hassle of replacement.

 Note: all pavement, and generally pretty decent pavement; no dirt.


 On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires.  They are 
 smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires.  

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 “Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never 
 was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. 
 Where is there a place for you to be? No place.

 Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to 
 look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
 it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
 somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
 daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is 
 all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
 any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, 
 because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
 in your time and your body can they be? 

 Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show 
 me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus 
 had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you 
 can find it?” 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Albatross Bars

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Ullmer

I just wanted to bump this once more, my build is nearing completion minus 
these bars. Anyone have a pair sitting around you want put to good use? 
I've got the bike for the job.

Mike never too many U
Seattle

On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:14:54 PM UTC-7, Michael Ullmer wrote:

 Hello all!

 I just acquired a Trek 620 that is going to be built into an awesome 
 commuter as soon as time permits. It is just begging for a pair of 
 Albatross bars on it though. Does anyone have a pair they need to get rid 
 of? Reply off-list please, thanks!

 Mike
 Seattle


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Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?

2014-05-21 Thread Mark Reimer

Great call, Just sent Brian an email about it. He's also running the road 
VBC cranks like the Hunq on the Radavist. Very curious how that works.

Last night I bought a super cheap 127.5mm BB just to try it out. Turns out 
it does work, despite the White Ind calculations pointing me to a much 
longer spindle length. I have about 3-4mm clearance at the chainring bolts, 
which would be the first thing to contact the frame. That suggests I could 
get away with a shorter spindle, maybe a 125, which still seems very long 
to me, but so it goes. I'll update when it's finally resolved!



On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:54:53 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 Did you try Keven or Brian at Riv? They both run VBC cranks.
 Brian's Hunqapillar http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff10.htm
 Keven's Appaloosa http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff3.htm

 Good eye on the Radavist-- it seems like Jared (at Riv) may have insight 
 into the BB length.

 Keep me/us posted!
 Shoji


 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:37:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Since this has been a topic on my mind, I just noticed that the 
 hunqapillar on the Radavist has the White Industries *road* VBC cranks, 
 which have a very narrow Q factor, plus 46/36 rings, which should be even 
 harder to fit than my situation. Confounding!
 http://theradavist.com/2014/05/allans-hunqapillar-dirt-tourer/#8

 So far emailing back and forth with W.I. and Riv hasn't turned up a 
 solution. Confusion continues. 

 On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:34:21 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Well it's still a mystery. I used some callipers to measure the BB in my 
 frame, it's 114 from end-to-end and my rings bottom out on the frame before 
 the BB taper even starts to make full contact. Using the instructions on 
 the white industries website, they'd have me running a spindle over 140, 
 which cannot be right. I've emailed them as well as Mark at Riv for advice. 
 My local shop doesn't have square taper BB's past 125, which I would have 
 thought would be adequate. 

 There are enough photos of Atlantis' with VBC cranks to make me know 
 this is a doable combination, but many of them seem to have smaller inner 
 rings - usually around 30 or smaller. I'm wondering if the size of my inner 
 ring is too large with the Atlantis flared chain stays. I hope to have this 
 sorted out soon, the remaining parts for the bike are arriving this week 
 and this is all that will hold me back.

 On Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:02:48 PM UTC-5, bicyc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm rolling a 40x24, for climbing infinity and maximum clearance. I'm 
 within a few mm of rubbing 60s. Not sure if I have a 113 or 118 down 
 there, 
 been a year or so since I replaced it.


 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.t...@gmail.comwrote:

 Wow, really? Erik of Bikenoir/Cosmic Country mentioned 113mm BB on the 
 Hunqapillar. I have a VBC Mountain and 113mm waiting for installation in 
 the box... maybe I'll need to plan on a longer time window before 
 venturing.

 Here's the link to the thread on 113/VBC/Hunqapillar: 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!starred/rbw-owners-bunch/jE_W_ff3RSU
  

 Good luck, Mark. 
 shoji

 On Friday, May 16, 2014 7:39:33 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Hi all,

 I just got a pair of White Industries mountain VBC cranks with a 
 46/36 ring combination for my Atlantis build. There is a 113mm BB in the 
 frame currently and it is way too short to run these cranks, which isn't 
 that surprising. I followed the instructions on the WI website and it 
 looks 
 like I'll need a BB somewhere in the 130mm range, which seems very long 
 to 
 me.


 Is anyone out there running the VBC cranks on an Atlantis? Care to 
 share the inner ring size and BB length for comparison please?

 Thanks!

 Mark

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[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow

2014-05-21 Thread Jan Heine

I'd consider getting different pedals. The lean angle allowed by pedals 
varies significantly, and if you have some wide pedals with big cages, you 
can pick up a lot of clearance...

If you have pedals that allow a decent lean angle and still strike your 
pedals, then I'd consider coasting instead. Pedaling around fast corners is 
not a good habit. I learned this when racing, on a criterium course in 
Portland on wide streets. I broke away and was hoping to stay away until 
the finish. In a few corners, my pedals lightly touched the ground during 
every lap, until, with one lap to go, I touched a little harder and crashed.

I think it was Greg LeMond who said that if you can pedal through a corner, 
it means you weren't going fast enough on the straights.

At slow speeds, you often have to pedal around corners just to stay 
upright. In those situations, you aren't leaning much, and toe overlap is 
your big problem, not pedal strike.

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Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?

2014-05-21 Thread Patrick Moore

Many thanks, Chris, I'd not heard of these. If it is obviously better than
the Pasela, then it's certainly worth investigating. I'll check them out.


OS125 cbarb...@ase.tufts.edu said:

I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it
to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version
in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a
Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine.
The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over
sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the
flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found
wanting.

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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

2014-05-21 Thread Manuel Acosta

They are good.
A couple months back Evan from Merry Sales had this idea of creating a stem 
mounted decaleur
Here's early drawing of it.

https://flic.kr/p/eWRaKs

Since getting the prototype Evan has taken it on some stupid stuff. Early 
prototype Evan found out early that the attachment point was to thin.

https://flic.kr/p/kpyKvC

The last prototype is solid and continues to be solid despite the abused 
Evan puts it through.

https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=41060758@N07q=evan

I haven't used this but I would say it's a winner.

Hope this helps.
Manny

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 Hi,

Has anyone used a Tanaka decaleur? Know anyone who has? It looks pretty 
 easy to mount and rather adjustable:

 http://store.somafab.com/tadeforth11.html

 I would just like a little more info than what I could see on the Soma 
 website before I pull the trigger  buy one.

 Thanks much,

 John  (who wears a helmet or his wife will hit him and make him wish he 
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[RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Jeremy Till

650b version should be called the Manny.

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1

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[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow

2014-05-21 Thread 'Jonathan Poor' via RBW Owners Bunch



 On one of my bikes, I have stiff plastic toe-straps. (I think they are 
 actually Campy straps) The ends of the straps sort of point downward from 
 the end of the pedal. They work sort of like a pedal-strike warning 
 whisker. I know to back off if the strap starts brushing the road...


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Re: [RBW] Mirrors and gadgets (was Why Wear a Helmet?)

2014-05-21 Thread Anton Tutter

My deepest sympathies to you and the loss of your friend.

Five years ago, my daughter and I, on my bike, were hit from the rear by a
negligent driver of a motor scooter who tried using the bike lane to pass
cars on the right. We were lucky we sustained nothing more than scratches
when we fell.

Since then I've worn a helmet mirror. I would find it difficult to ride
without one now. My eyes have been trained to focus on the road in front of
me, but catch oncoming traffic in the mirror, with peripheral vision, much
like I use the rearview mirror in a car. I consider the mirror an
indispensable component of my cycling gear.

Anton

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:03:32 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

http://kxan.com/2014/05/18/friends-remember-avid-cyclist-killed-in-crash/

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Doug Williams
sal...@minbaritm.comjavascript:
wrote:

Now I have a handlebar mount for my phone! Is there any hope for me? Can
I escape this gadget addiction?

Doug

*JimD*

I wear a helmet as insurance. Besides it's where I mount my mirror.

I'd ride without the helmet before I rode without the mirror but, as it
is, they are inextricably linked.

Maybe we can have a 'discussion' about the use of mirrors?

As to helmets and horses go watch the cross country portion of a 3 day
trials. Those folks wear helmets some of them still get killed.

-JimD

I'm with you Jim, I can't ride without my mirror

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[RBW] FS: Riv stuff Nitto, Gripsters, Surly ECR frameset camping bike

2014-05-21 Thread bo richardson

i need it for the non folding side 
of my brompton
compact is kinda crucial

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[RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

I promised I'd give him a set after he gets his Riv fixed.

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:42:25 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote:

 650b version should be called the Manny.

 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1

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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

The only downside to these that I've found is you really want to strap it 
down to keep the bag from bouncing if you ride it on super bumpy 
trails/roads. If your bag has a loop for the tombstone that's less of an 
issue, but mine doesn't so I put one of the included ostrich straps on when 
I ride trails. I haven't had the linkage move on me at all. I wrote a post 
about it on the Soma blog.

http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/02/tanaka-decaleur-and-ostrich-f-104n.html

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:30:49 PM UTC-7, jphil...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi,

Has anyone used a Tanaka decaleur? Know anyone who has? It looks pretty 
 easy to mount and rather adjustable:

 http://store.somafab.com/tadeforth11.html

 I would just like a little more info than what I could see on the Soma 
 website before I pull the trigger  buy one.

 Thanks much,

 John  (who wears a helmet or his wife will hit him and make him wish he 
 did)


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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

Oh, and according to Prolly they're too heavy. But that describes pretty 
much everything on my bike so take that for what you will. I do my best to 
break everything they give me, and so far these are still hanging in there.

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 Hi,

Has anyone used a Tanaka decaleur? Know anyone who has? It looks pretty 
 easy to mount and rather adjustable:

 http://store.somafab.com/tadeforth11.html

 I would just like a little more info than what I could see on the Soma 
 website before I pull the trigger  buy one.

 Thanks much,

 John  (who wears a helmet or his wife will hit him and make him wish he 
 did)


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[RBW] Re: Soma's Tanaka Decaleurs???

Help Computer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eA3XCvrK90

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Re: [RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

Thanks Guys!

Patrick I was thinking after my post that I didn't emphasize enough how
special getting to spend 4+ days straight almost one on one with my Dad
was.  That is probably the longest continuous time I've spent with him
mostly solo in 10 years or more so it really was incredible.  I never would
have thought that bicycling would give me the avenue to make something like
this happen, what a bonus!

Tony

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv stuff Nitto, Gripsters, Surly ECR frameset camping bike

2014-05-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv

I bought MKS folding pedals for mine. Work great and much less bulky than 
the OEM ones.

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:44:04 PM UTC+3, bo richardson wrote:

 i need it for the non folding side 
 of my brompton
 compact is kinda crucial

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Re: [RBW] Mirrors and gadgets (was Why Wear a Helmet?)

2014-05-21 Thread Doug Williams

Jim,

Watched the video. So sorry for your loss; which is a loss for the entire
bicycle community. Don't know what else to say. Take care!

Doug

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:03:32 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

http://kxan.com/2014/05/18/friends-remember-avid-cyclist-killed-in-crash/

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Doug Williams
sal...@minbaritm.comjavascript:
wrote:

Now I have a handlebar mount for my phone! Is there any hope for me? Can
I escape this gadget addiction?

Doug

*JimD*

I wear a helmet as insurance. Besides it's where I mount my mirror.

I'd ride without the helmet before I rode without the mirror but, as it
is, they are inextricably linked.

Maybe we can have a 'discussion' about the use of mirrors?

As to helmets and horses go watch the cross country portion of a 3 day
trials. Those folks wear helmets some of them still get killed.

-JimD

I'm with you Jim, I can't ride without my mirror

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[RBW] Re: Stuffs for sale!

2014-05-21 Thread rcnute

Mike, I don't know if you got my email offlist but I'm interested in the 
Pro.  Thanks!

Ryan

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:28:51 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey group,   just have a couple items for sale.   They are all slightly 
 used but still in really good condition.   Slight discounts for combined 
 items.   Contact off list pleez.  Prices dont include shipping.   thanks!   
 -Mike

 Nitto Noodle bar w/ Shimano brake levers   48cm wideLotsa tape residue 
   $70
 Nitto  Dirt drop Stem   26.0 clamp,  8cm reach $45
 Nitto '65 seatpost   27.2   $30
 Brooks Champion Flyer sprung saddle,  brown   $70
 Brooks Professional saddle,  light brown   $50
 Velo Orange Rear constructeur rack   $50
 Velo Orange Quill stem   26.0 clamp  80mm reach   $20


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[RBW] 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

I have 9, want to go to 8. But am thinking for better friction shifting go 
whole hog and get a 7 speed cassette and chain.

Can I do that on a Sam with XT front derailer and Deore rear?

Does chainline factor in, or is a shimano 7 speed cassette the same width 
as an 8 speed? Will the 7 speed chain fit the derailer cages?

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[RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Brewster Fong


On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1

 
Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires on 
the market 


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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe Bunik

+1... That'd be a damn fine name in fact.

On 5/21/14, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 650b version should be called the Manny.

 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed Single Track

2014-05-21 Thread Ryan

Patrick, I know you want to keep costs of tweaking this bike 
reasonable...but , I have to say, the Shimano CX70 cantilevers Riv sells 
 are superb.
 
  
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brc3.htm
 
 So good that I might want to have them on my all-rounder. I've used these 
on my X0-1 with  the Tiagra levers that I believe you're using and the 
braking is all I could ask for. I understand that you want to make what you 
already have work, though and these are a bit spendy.
 
Regards and enjoy the new QBgood looking bike
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:12:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Thanks, Ryan. The brakes are OK, and the initial adjustments I did to them 
 helped. Still haven't done the brake pads or straddle cable adjustments 
 yet. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:15:32 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote: 

 Your bike is shaping up really nicelyare your brakes working better? 
 I  really actually like the silver QBs...nice with the white saddle and 
 pedals and very nice tape job...cheers
 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:49:42 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 Today I was wondrously surprised to feel well enough to try a ride 
 (yesterday was a hard brain day). I improved enough as I went, especially 
 once I was heading away from the “big city” of Woodland Park after 6 miles. 

 There is an amazing flow to single speed not found with a derailured 
 bike. Silent running. Smooth. Efficient. Poser mode gives a nice taste, but 
 it’s like the difference between Dewar’s and 24 year old Ardbeg.

 I made the back dirt road that winds its way on the ridge north of 
 Rampart Reservoir, then dropped down to the Reservoir where we often camp, 
 and took the single track around the reservoir. Again, the flow of single 
 speed, not having to think about shifting or the drivetrain, but just 
 pedal, is wondrously freeing.

 Went around to the Waldo Canyon burn area on the South side of the 
 Reservoir. We were evacuated for 10 days nearly two years ago for that fire 
 and it hits literally close to home just how hot it was and how close it 
 came to our wee town (and so many in the Springs did lose their homes).  I 
 fitting contemplative ride through the burn area on a single speed on 
 single track that invites contemplative prayer.

 Photos: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644352669548/
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Bill Lindsay

Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires on 
the market 

You are 100% correct that there are plenty of 27.5 knobby tires out 
there.  There are not many (any?) with a width less than 45mm, though.  
That's why there are a few of us eagerly waiting for this tire.  

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:21:37 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1

  
 Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires on 
 the market 


 ~Hugh



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[RBW] 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread brian feltovich

Which reminds me, I have some of the Pacenti 650b knobbies for sale. Never 
mounted, never used. Contact off list if you want info or photos. 

Brian
Feltovich at geemail dot com

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Hugh Smitham

The Holden will be shod with knobbiest soon. Big cheer!

-Hugh
On May 21, 2014 1:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires
 on the market 

 You are 100% correct that there are plenty of 27.5 knobby tires out
 there.  There are not many (any?) with a width less than 45mm, though.
 That's why there are a few of us eagerly waiting for this tire.

 On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:21:37 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1


 Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires
 on the market


 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Hugh Smitham

That's Hilsen.

-Hugh
On May 21, 2014 2:02 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Holden will be shod with knobbiest soon. Big cheer!

 -Hugh
 On May 21, 2014 1:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires
 on the market 

 You are 100% correct that there are plenty of 27.5 knobby tires out
 there.  There are not many (any?) with a width less than 45mm, though.
 That's why there are a few of us eagerly waiting for this tire.

 On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:21:37 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:06:22 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

 Here's the details.

 http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-other-cazadero-tire.html?m=1


 Interesting, and here I thought there were plenty of 27.5 knobby tires
 on the market


 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Bertin753

Try shifting 9 with friction before you buy anything new. It might work for 
you. It certainly works for me.

Patrick just went to *8* in back!!!Moore

Patrick Moore
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 I have 9, want to go to 8. But am thinking for better friction shifting go 
 whole hog and get a 7 speed cassette and chain.
 
 Can I do that on a Sam with XT front derailer and Deore rear?
 
 Does chainline factor in, or is a shimano 7 speed cassette the same width as 
 an 8 speed? Will the 7 speed chain fit the derailer cages?
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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

My Saluki is going to get a pair as well.  As well as the hetres did on the GAP 
trail i'm sure they'd handle the CO easy as well but I like the idea of trying 
out a small knobby like this.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Chen

This won't be a problem for very long...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/14240429505/


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[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow

2014-05-21 Thread Joe Bernard

My habit is to pedal all my bikes according to the one with the least 
clearance. You're never going to train your brain to 'remember' which bike 
you're on.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA. 

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:44:52 PM UTC-7, IanA wrote:

 Well, winter has finally passed and the road grit has mostly been swept 
 away, so the LongLow came out of storage (the livingroom - where else?) and 
 I was enjoying whipping along at speeds I'd all but forgotten about on my 
 80's mountain bike that continues reliably in all conditions, but is dogged 
 about it.  The problem is that the mountain bike has a high bottom bracket 
 and will not pedal strike even when pedaling during tight lean through turn.

 First day out on the LL this year and I hit speeds of 55km/h (downhill), 
 but even on the flats the computer told me 40 km/h once or twice.  Such 
 fun.  Sadly, at quite low speed thankfully, I turned sharply, pedaling 
 through grounding my pedal and stalling the bike.  The pannier saved the 
 bike from scratches and I was unscathed.  A little rubber shaved off the 
 bar end shifter.

 It used to be my habit to coast through hard turns with the pedal in the 
 12 o clock position on the lean side.  I'm concerned that I've been 
 retrained by my mountain bike.  I'm worried that I'll forget one time too 
 many.  Does this happen to anyone else?  If so, does the body remember when 
 the mind is absent?  The LL has such a low bb that if one forgets pedal 
 strike is to be expected.

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[RBW] Owning an AHH and an Atlantis

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Fleischman

I was curious if anyone on the boards own both the Atlantis and an AHH?  

If so, do you feel like you get sufficient use out of both bikes?  What do you 
enjoy, in terms of use, about owning both of the models?  As an owner, do you 
ever feel as if there is too much overlap to justify owning both these models?

Thanks for your insights.

Michael

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Re: [RBW] 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Evan

FWIW, I, too, have a blue Sam and 9 works for me--in friction mode, with 
old Suntour ratcheting thumb shifters. My RD is a Deore LX, model M581, 
which works with 9, 8, or 7 speeds. Regarding your chain: I'm pretty sure 
you can use an 8-speed chain on your 7-speed cassette with no problems at 
all. And some folks claim that 8-speed chains are better-made than 7-speed 
chains, although I haven't seen any detailed support of that claim.

Evan E.
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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Deacon Patrick

I went from 8 to 9 only Hunqapillar and it friction shifts fantastically. 
Why do you want to make the change?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:53:22 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 I have 9, want to go to 8. But am thinking for better friction shifting go 
 whole hog and get a 7 speed cassette and chain.

 Can I do that on a Sam with XT front derailer and Deore rear?

 Does chainline factor in, or is a shimano 7 speed cassette the same width 
 as an 8 speed? Will the 7 speed chain fit the derailer cages?


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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Bill Lindsay

That combination will only work well on a Sage Green Sam.  On a Blue Sam it 
would be a disaster.  Blue is incompatible with 7-speed. 

KIDDING!!

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:53:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I have 9, want to go to 8. But am thinking for better friction shifting go 
 whole hog and get a 7 speed cassette and chain.

 Can I do that on a Sam with XT front derailer and Deore rear?

 Does chainline factor in, or is a shimano 7 speed cassette the same width 
 as an 8 speed? Will the 7 speed chain fit the derailer cages?


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Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?

2014-05-21 Thread Pete Olson

I put the 26x1.25 New Express Tires on my wife's small frame Rambouillet 
last season.  They are listed as 330 grams on the Soma paper strip that 
held them together.  They measure about 28.5mm wide on the stock, road 
oriented rims, which is just about the same as the previous 1.25 Paselas.  
No flats so far.  -Pete

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:25:44 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Many thanks, Chris, I'd not heard of these. If it is obviously better than 
 the Pasela, then it's certainly worth investigating. I'll check them out.


 OS125 cbar...@ase.tufts.edu javascript: said:

 I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found 
 it to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 
 version in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire 
 and a Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different 
 machine. The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight 
 over sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures 
 the flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found 
 wanting. 
  

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[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow

2014-05-21 Thread IanA

Thank you for this insight - the pedals are wide, so I've now got a 
narrower set - I think it will make quite a big difference.  I'm never 
going fast enough on the straights, so I have no excuse for pedaling 
through corners, but hopefully the new pedals will go some way to mitigate 
my sloth.

IanA. 



On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:15:06 AM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote:

 I'd consider getting different pedals. The lean angle allowed by pedals 
 varies significantly, and if you have some wide pedals with big cages, you 
 can pick up a lot of clearance...

 If you have pedals that allow a decent lean angle and still strike your 
 pedals, then I'd consider coasting instead. Pedaling around fast corners is 
 not a good habit. I learned this when racing, on a criterium course in 
 Portland on wide streets. I broke away and was hoping to stay away until 
 the finish. In a few corners, my pedals lightly touched the ground during 
 every lap, until, with one lap to go, I touched a little harder and crashed.

 I think it was Greg LeMond who said that if you can pedal through a 
 corner, it means you weren't going fast enough on the straights.

 At slow speeds, you often have to pedal around corners just to stay 
 upright. In those situations, you aren't leaning much, and toe overlap is 
 your big problem, not pedal strike.

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[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow



 I think for proper analysis we are going to need extensive postings of 
 pictures of this long low...:)


 

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[RBW] Re: Pedal Strike - LongLow



 I have scraped bottom a coupla times.


Now I just keep the inboard foot up when I go into the turn, and I have my 
mind focused on doing that and not pedaling through the turn.
Sometimes I do pedal, but I know that is a no-no. 

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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?



 I want to lose cogs because, though 9 is fine, I hear that 8 is great.

 
But RBW is outta stock on those $30 8's and so I am pondering 7.

I get some auto-shifts with 10 and 9, so I thought I would go to 8 or 7 for 
the wider spacing between cogs (better frictioning), which has been 
confirmed that there is wider spacing on another thread about this, as well 
as by an RBW employee.

So this thread is mainly asking if a 7 chain and cassette will work with my 
derailers, and on the Blue 2013 Sam. I mention Blue and the year in case 
the bb and stays are spec'd different from previous models, if anyone knows.



 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b knobby coming soon.

2014-05-21 Thread Peter Morgano

Sweet frameset, the brazing is so clean.  The tires look like a really
tempting alternative to hetres when riding more offroady stuff. The issue
now is a set of tires leads to a new wheel purchase since i am too lazy to
swap tires, haha.


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 This won't be a problem for very long...

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/14240429505/


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 My Saluki is going to get a pair as well.  As well as the hetres did on
 the GAP trail i'm sure they'd handle the CO easy as well but I like the
 idea of trying out a small knobby like this.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 05/21/2014 09:20 PM, Michael wrote:


So this thread is mainly asking if a 7 chain and cassette will work 
with my derailers, and on the Blue 2013 Sam. I mention Blue and the 
year in case the bb and stays are spec'd different from previous 
models, if anyone knows.





There is no such thing as a 7 speed chain any more; all there is is 8 
speed chains, and surprise, they work perfectly well on 7 speed cassettes.




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Re: [RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Mike Schiller

whatta you call these Steve?  
http://kmcchain.us/chaintype/7-speed-below/http://kmcchain.us/chaintype/7-speed-below/

~mike

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:07:20 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 05/21/2014 09:20 PM, Michael wrote: 


 There is no such thing as a 7 speed chain any more; all there is is 8 
 speed chains, and surprise, they work perfectly well on 7 speed cassettes. 





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[RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

2014-05-21 Thread Bill

Wow. Someone traded a to-die-for green and cream Saluki for the same sized
one in lavender. He must have really been smitten with that
lily-of-the-Nile shade of purple to do such a thing. Of course when you're
riding along looking where you're going and not gawking at the frame you
can't even see what color the bike is.

Your Dad and you should do the GAP again from the other direction.
Besides, the Greenaluki is going to want to have its own turn too. Add
family members; make it an annual event. This could be just the beginning
of a great tradition.

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:51:53 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

Riv Content - The purple-luki handled the trail with every bit of grace
you would expect. We were pretty lightly loaded given that we were BB or
guest housing it for accommodations. I only needed clothes, personal
electronics, spares, tools, water and snacks. I need to weigh the kit but
my guess is less than 30 lbs. I'll put up some more gear related thoughts
soon once I've had a bit more time to think about it. My cargo carrying
was accomplished with a Carradice longflap in the back over a Nitto R-14
and a Sackville Medium in a Wald 137 up front. That did put most of my
weight carried up hi but as it is my general commuting setup I didn't
notice any handling issues. I'd like to try a lower riding pannier setup
sometime to compare. One piece of gear I wish I'd had - An Axe! :) or a
folding saw anyway, we came across a number of downed trees that we could
mostly get the bikes up and over easily but I just saw on the GAP Facebook
page that a landslide caused a more serious blockage just after we'd gone
by. Mostly I'm bemoaning missing the opportunity to strap a hatchet to the
bike... next time!

I'm already three posts deep in my GAP retrospective on the blog so here
you go;

Previewhttp://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/farther-son-gap-trip-preview.html

Frostburg - Mason Dixon Line
Galleryhttp://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/gap-trip-gallery-1-frostburg-mason.html

Mason Dixon Line - Rockwood Gallery
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/05/gap-trip-gallery-2-mason-dixon-line.html

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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?

2014-05-21 Thread Zack

Michael - 

I actually did a very similar switch recently, and love it.  You will need 
a spacer for the cassette, I think it's the 4.5mm one.  

I had lots of ghost shifting, always, on both my sam and my hunq.  I 
started with 9, went to 8 and it was a little better, and now am at 7 and 
it's really really good/stable.  highly recommend.

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[RBW] Owning an AHH and an Atlantis

2014-05-21 Thread bo richardson

i have an atlantis and a rambouillet
i like the ramboullet better
and dont feel there is much i can do with the atlantis 
i cant also do with the rambouillet
i may turn loose of the atlantis

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Re: [RBW] Owning an AHH and an Atlantis

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Williams

I have both as well,   I have to say I like them almost equal, but the
Atlantis is a little better for the riding style I like.  It takes fatter
tires, handles loads better, better for camping and such.   Dont get me
wrong,  the AHH is good at a lot of things.   but if I have a load and
bumping around on trails,   Im gonna grab the Atlantis.Hope this offers
some insight!   -Mike


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:18 PM, bo richardson borus...@gmail.com wrote:

 i have an atlantis and a rambouillet
 i like the ramboullet better
 and dont feel there is much i can do with the atlantis
 i cant also do with the rambouillet
 i may turn loose of the atlantis

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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?



 Zack, which cassette are you using?


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[RBW] Stuffs for sale V.3

2014-05-21 Thread Michael Williams

Hey group   still have some stuff Im trying to thin out.  Prices dont 
include shipping.   thank you!!discounts for multiple items
Nitto noodles with Shimano brake levers,  48cm wide  $70
VO rear constructeur rack $50
Sugino XD2 crank arms   175mm $35
Panaracer Fatty Rumpkins,  the originals,  well used but lots of life   
$15/pair
Vee Rubber XCX 650Bx1.95,   used but lots of life   $20/pair

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[RBW] Re: 7-speed cassette with XD@ cranks and Deore derailers ok to run on a Blue Sam?



 @ Bill:


Oh No! I knew I should have asked for the Sage Green Ha ha!

Actually, I think I read that they are coming out with a metallic Red Sam 
soon - not kidding.

If it is a nice dark ruby red, that would look awesome!! But I bet its only 
compatible with new 11-speed groups. (chortle, chortle).

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[RBW] Dark wine red metallic Sams coming out in July.

Unless its a joke.
I put nothing past those jokesters at both BQ and RBW.

But it does say on the Blug:
 This July round of Sams will be the stock blue color, but also available 
in a nice dark wine red metallic

That would be a very cool color if it is really dark, and really metallic.
My wife's favorite color for bikes.
Maybe now I can convince her to get a RBW bike!
They need to put up some pics soon so I can show the wife!!

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[RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

Thanks for sharing.
Sounds like a wonderful time!

1. What is this GAP, and where does it start and end?


 2. How did you find out about Bill and his Greenluki and work a deal? Very 
interesting.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip

Hey Michael,

The GAP is the Great Allegheny Passage, a rails to trails project 150 miles
long between Cumberland, MD and Pittsburgh, PA.

Bill and I started talking about our common XO-3's and he mentioned the
Green Saluki as a potential solution if I ended up not getting used to the
purple-luki... Another connection made possible by this great community.
Good luck on my part!

Tony

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[RBW] Re: Father-Son GAP Trip



 Wow! I just saw the write up on your blog.

Looks like so much fun!
That was great you got to do it with your Dad. What a special time.

Thanks for the info on the GAP.
That is great that the deal worked out so well for the green saluki.
Please post pics of it soon.
Would love to see it.

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[RBW] A Tale of Two Saluki's

By Bill and Tony (and Amy and Steve)

Almost ten years later two Saluki's get dragged into a garage to compare
life story's and go home with new riders! My Purple-Luki (#0017, via Amy)
and Bill's Green-Luki (#008, via Steve) are two great looking bikes. Both
size 60cm Saluki's and the only noticeable frame delta is the lower
placement of the low rider braze on's for the Green-Luki. How cool is it
to see these two side by side as bare frames!?! I couldn't be happier with
my 'fairway green' bike and it sounds like Bill is looking forward to
building up a striking Moustache Bar'd rig with the Agapanthus Purple...
seems like a win win!

Bill wanted to poll the list on personal color preferences between the
two... obviously he and I have already cast our votes but we're curious
where the RBW-OB's are on the Green vs Purple. What say you?!?

Regardless it is cool to know a bit about the history behind a used frame
('rolling art' as Bill said on Sunday)...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lcYZ1SSDjoc/U31_qAUq2yI/ECQ/rCJDtJ4sFdM/s1600/DSC_3602.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Jt9AEcNucJY/U31_wIXqPMI/ECY/kL8awEmtsUQ/s1600/DSC_3606.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TY2rrX-DPSM/U31_1z3FpBI/ECg/auH0xpH6r7s/s1600/DSC_3610.jpg

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[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Saluki's



 I like the green better for my personal preference.

 
But both are just as beautiful.
One doesn't have anything less on looks than the other.
Lovely bikes.

I am jealous of your all's bike building know-how.

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 55 Bleriot