[RBW] FS Nitto Moustache bar etc
Sorry if this is a repost. Here's the link to the pictures for those who have asked. https://www.flickr.com/photos/125844435@N04/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS Nitto Moustache bar etc
Updated to add Sugino chain rings 48/36/26, inscribed SP-46, SP-36, and XP-PJ 24. Used but in great condition. $25 shipped Velox handle bar plugs ends 1 pair, used. $5 shipped Link to see all items. https://www.flickr.com/photos/125844435@N04/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Silver Gruppo
Silver hubs with Large Flanges with radiused cutout (what Riv called Phil Woood Eisenhower hubs) in a rear with free hub (no freewheel) would be nice. My 70's Shimano 333's hubs are beautiful with the large flanges and cutouts (1975 Schwinn Voyageur II). VO seems to have good support of their hubs, 1 or 2 different models. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr?
I've heard its supposed to be in a price range comparable to surly stuff. sold as a complete with no front derailer... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique
My singles now all have silver DT shifters but the tandem has Shimano BE, used in friction mode. The biggest problem I have, in going back and forth, is that they move in opposite directions. It took me quite awhile in going from older Campy shifters to new Silvers. Or maybe it was really freewheels to cassettes. The older ones had a definite over shift and back a little. Modern shifting seems to happen quickly and then require another mm of movement to hit the sweet spot. It sounds a bit like that is what you are experiencing when you think you are being gingerly. One of the things I like about friction is that it actually requires some skill, which adds to my riding pleasure. Don't waste your energy getting frustrated, just treat each shift as a learning experience and soon you will be very proficient. Keep the rubber side down, Michael On Sunday, July 6, 2014 3:28:00 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Finding the precise chain alignment required by 9 cogs fiddly with the Simplexes, I swapped (thanks, Daniel) for Silvers thinking that they would shift more precisely. After 40 miles or so yesterday and today of shifting with the Silvers I've realized that: 1. It is technique. 2. I've forgotten the technique for dt shifters. 3. I retain the proper technique for bar end shifters (also Silvers). My mistake has been to pull or push too gingerly when smooth, accurate shifting requires, even with 9 cogs, a firm, confident movement. I retain that for bar end shifters, since I've used those over the years, but I have to learn it again for dt shifters -- the action is different enough because of the way your hand grabs the levers: instead of your fist, you (or at least I) pinch the lever between thum and forefinger, using the thumb to shover forward or (for the bigger cogs) push backward. I had thought it very odd that shifting 9 -- and mismatched 9 at that -- was so easy and precise with the Silvers on bar end pods while, with the same model of chain, it seemed harder with the dt Silvers. Now I know the reason. Both bikes (Ram, Fargo): Silvers, 9 speed close ratio cogsets made from odds and sods from The Box; the same chain (the cheapest 9 sp SRAM), and for the Ram a DA 7400 rd, for the Fargo a road Microshift (short cage) rd. 13-27 on the Fargo, 16-26 on the Ram. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Country Bikes
pretty much all of the 19th century bicycle advancements were made as part of military contracts http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/1-welcome-to-the-bsa-museum/ On Sunday, July 6, 2014 7:58:21 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: A riding companion mentioned this article while we were pedaling the weekly Sunday Social ride today. It's a fast read, but evidence that people were riding precursors to RBW bikes way back when.. http://tubulocity.com/?p=64 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique
Was it really 2011? Time flies. The buyer, a woman in Atlanta, was thrilled to get it. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick's Herse looked like this: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/fine-bikes/1958-rene-herse-for-sale/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique
You describe what I feel: pull or push the lever with authority, then add a mm of tension. You are right, too, about the skill required being a plus and not a minus. But I was surprised, when I figured out what was wrong, to realize that I'd really lost the art with down tubers. (For the first year of riding the Ram the drivetrain was Dura Ace 7 speed indexed, so I learned nothing there.) On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: My singles now all have silver DT shifters but the tandem has Shimano BE, used in friction mode. The biggest problem I have, in going back and forth, is that they move in opposite directions. It took me quite awhile in going from older Campy shifters to new Silvers. Or maybe it was really freewheels to cassettes. The older ones had a definite over shift and back a little. Modern shifting seems to happen quickly and then require another mm of movement to hit the sweet spot. It sounds a bit like that is what you are experiencing when you think you are being gingerly. One of the things I like about friction is that it actually requires some skill, which adds to my riding pleasure. Don't waste your energy getting frustrated, just treat each shift as a learning experience and soon you will be very proficient. Keep the rubber side down, Michael On Sunday, July 6, 2014 3:28:00 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Finding the precise chain alignment required by 9 cogs fiddly with the Simplexes, I swapped (thanks, Daniel) for Silvers thinking that they would shift more precisely. After 40 miles or so yesterday and today of shifting with the Silvers I've realized that: 1. It is technique. 2. I've forgotten the technique for dt shifters. 3. I retain the proper technique for bar end shifters (also Silvers). My mistake has been to pull or push too gingerly when smooth, accurate shifting requires, even with 9 cogs, a firm, confident movement. I retain that for bar end shifters, since I've used those over the years, but I have to learn it again for dt shifters -- the action is different enough because of the way your hand grabs the levers: instead of your fist, you (or at least I) pinch the lever between thum and forefinger, using the thumb to shover forward or (for the bigger cogs) push backward. I had thought it very odd that shifting 9 -- and mismatched 9 at that -- was so easy and precise with the Silvers on bar end pods while, with the same model of chain, it seemed harder with the dt Silvers. Now I know the reason. Both bikes (Ram, Fargo): Silvers, 9 speed close ratio cogsets made from odds and sods from The Box; the same chain (the cheapest 9 sp SRAM), and for the Ram a DA 7400 rd, for the Fargo a road Microshift (short cage) rd. 13-27 on the Fargo, 16-26 on the Ram. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going
Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bikes
Ron, sorry, not true If you read the usual histories, notably Herlihy, the technology developed tremendously over 3/4 of a century before reaching the pneumatic tire, chain driven, equal-wheeled vehicle adopted by the military, and further advances to this dominant type of safety were largely made by tinkerers, tourists (and racers) as Jan Heine points out. Military use was relatively minor, take all in all. BSA was in fact better known for and probably even produced more bikes, buses, motor bikes, and cars than its muskets, rifles, other guns, and ammunition. But they did develop the military bicycle: In 1941 BSA was approached to produce a new pedal cycle with a maximum weight allowance of only 22 lb especially for airborne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_forces use. This required a new concept in frame design which BSA found, producing a machine which weighed 21 lb, one pound less than the design specification and which also exceeded the design requirement for an effective life of 50 miles many times over. Over 60,000 folding bicycles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding_bicycle were produced, a figure equal to half the total production of military bicycles during World War II. Aside: interesting to me is the ferment in the middle of the 19th century with McMillan and all the other backyard tinkerers in ironmongery who made bi-s, tri-s, and quads pedaled by a variety of linkages. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: pretty much all of the 19th century bicycle advancements were made as part of military contracts http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/1-welcome-to-the-bsa-museum/ On Sunday, July 6, 2014 7:58:21 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: A riding companion mentioned this article while we were pedaling the weekly Sunday Social ride today. It's a fast read, but evidence that people were riding precursors to RBW bikes way back when.. http://tubulocity.com/?p=64 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?
Thanks, Don. If you ever decide that your switch from Ram to Roadeo was mistaken, drop me a line. (Add smiley face to indicate that I am kidding.) Actually, don't bother, because I need a 57. You're safe. Seriously, the Ram is a wonderful bike. I does encourage me to push, unlike other bikes that seem to mute one's efforts. But I think to myself that, even more desirable would be a similarly fitting bike that is several lbs lighter and slightly more nimble in handling. The Ram is an excellent all rounder -- if our dirt around here wasn't so sandy as to require 2+ tires, it would be a wonderful, more road-like country bike with 35 mm or fatter tires -- 35 mm Kojaks leave considerable space between tire and metal. We'll see about that Bertin. I'd build it up as a stripped down gofast with a 1XN drivetrain or perhaps this would be the one to build up with a S3X hub run with a freewheel. Actually, I'd do better to fret less and ride the bikes I have more. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I hope you find your Roadeo. I used to own a 60cm Ram and always regretted selling it. I eventually bought a 59cm Roadeo and it's my favorite bike. Only slightly lighter and the handling is just a little more responsive without losing the Rivendell stable feel that I really like on fast, bumpy, curvy downhills. Good luck. On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:15:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 handles those duties. I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
Minus the rack, I've used the Large... https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8684988096/ They're nice bags, but I imagine a bag that opens from the back would work a bit better on the front. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bikes
not to offend, friend, but a 1941 reference completely ignores 3/4-century of military bicycles http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/beginnings-of-war-machines/ On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:15:58 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Ron, sorry, not true If you read the usual histories, notably Herlihy, the technology developed tremendously over 3/4 of a century before reaching the pneumatic tire, chain driven, equal-wheeled vehicle adopted by the military, and further advances to this dominant type of safety were largely made by tinkerers, tourists (and racers) as Jan Heine points out. Military use was relatively minor, take all in all. BSA was in fact better known for and probably even produced more bikes, buses, motor bikes, and cars than its muskets, rifles, other guns, and ammunition. But they did develop the military bicycle: In 1941 BSA was approached to produce a new pedal cycle with a maximum weight allowance of only 22 lb especially for airborne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_forces use. This required a new concept in frame design which BSA found, producing a machine which weighed 21 lb, one pound less than the design specification and which also exceeded the design requirement for an effective life of 50 miles many times over. Over 60,000 folding bicycles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding_bicycle were produced, a figure equal to half the total production of military bicycles during World War II. Aside: interesting to me is the ferment in the middle of the 19th century with McMillan and all the other backyard tinkerers in ironmongery who made bi-s, tri-s, and quads pedaled by a variety of linkages. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: pretty much all of the 19th century bicycle advancements were made as part of military contracts http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/1-welcome-to-the-bsa-museum/ On Sunday, July 6, 2014 7:58:21 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: A riding companion mentioned this article while we were pedaling the weekly Sunday Social ride today. It's a fast read, but evidence that people were riding precursors to RBW bikes way back when.. http://tubulocity.com/?p=64 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I use the Large shopsack. It fits great when it is full, and folds up nice and flat when it's empty https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Cw2_noeBSFk/U7qupInlbZI/Gow/cUWkDtBwdIo/s1600/IMG_0539.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-R3_MpZYEtdU/U7qufii0kdI/Goo/h1-5ubZivtM/s1600/IMG_0538.JPG Marc . On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:32:39 AM UTC-4, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
Not a saddlesack, but here is my Carridice Barley rear bag. https://www.flickr.com/photos/skenry/14318169940/ Its being held by a VO headset decaleur and a Marks Rack.Works like a champ. Scott On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:32 AM, SJB sjbrau...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?
Patrick, To your benefit, I think the 57's and smaller sizes use lighter tubing than the 59's and up. Also, threadless headsets save quite a bit of weight and are stiffer. I have a conventional quill stem, but I have lighter bikes if I feel the need. On Monday, July 7, 2014 6:29:58 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks, Don. If you ever decide that your switch from Ram to Roadeo was mistaken, drop me a line. (Add smiley face to indicate that I am kidding.) Actually, don't bother, because I need a 57. You're safe. Seriously, the Ram is a wonderful bike. I does encourage me to push, unlike other bikes that seem to mute one's efforts. But I think to myself that, even more desirable would be a similarly fitting bike that is several lbs lighter and slightly more nimble in handling. The Ram is an excellent all rounder -- if our dirt around here wasn't so sandy as to require 2+ tires, it would be a wonderful, more road-like country bike with 35 mm or fatter tires -- 35 mm Kojaks leave considerable space between tire and metal. We'll see about that Bertin. I'd build it up as a stripped down gofast with a 1XN drivetrain or perhaps this would be the one to build up with a S3X hub run with a freewheel. Actually, I'd do better to fret less and ride the bikes I have more. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Don Compton dpc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Patrick, I hope you find your Roadeo. I used to own a 60cm Ram and always regretted selling it. I eventually bought a 59cm Roadeo and it's my favorite bike. Only slightly lighter and the handling is just a little more responsive without losing the Rivendell stable feel that I really like on fast, bumpy, curvy downhills. Good luck. On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:15:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 handles those duties. I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
Stonehog/Brian Hanson has a saddlesack on a porteur rack (Pass-n-Stow rack, I think): https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/10339803905/in/set-72157636675892804 On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:32:39 AM UTC-4, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Country Bikes
What I think is most fantastic here is the intersection of these beautiful, timeless bikes with a squadron of 8 African American soldiers who biked 1,900 miles from Missoula to St. Louis. Friends, this was in 1896. The photograph is stunning and if you click on it, it opens up into a huge jpg file. My goodness, the strength. Oh to have a poster of that photograph. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I believe that's a haulin colin rack, attaches to mid fork braze ons rather than dropout eyelets. It has a slightly smaller footprint than a pass and stow or vo porteur. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique
No kidding! Tempus fugit. This year itself is blowing away. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:46:24 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Was it really 2011? Time flies. The buyer, a woman in Atlanta, was thrilled to get it. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Patrick's Herse looked like this: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/fine-bikes/1958-rene-herse-for-sale/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Country Bikes
not a bad job, either - getting paid to bike 1900 miles. On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:08:35 AM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: What I think is most fantastic here is the intersection of these beautiful, timeless bikes with a squadron of 8 African American soldiers who biked 1,900 miles from Missoula to St. Louis. Friends, this was in 1896. The photograph is stunning and if you click on it, it opens up into a huge jpg file. My goodness, the strength. Oh to have a poster of that photograph. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Downtube shifting 9 cogs: Retrofrictions versus Silvers versus Technique
I should have bought that bike. --Eric N. www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.BlogSpot.com @CampyOnlyGuy From: Philip Williamson Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 8:55 PM To: 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch Patrick's Herse looked like this: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/fine-bikes/1958-rene-herse-for-sale/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs: PAUL Thumbies (22.2 / Shimano / Silver)
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[RBW] Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree (Hard option) July 12. 9am @ the Ferry Building.
Did a pre-ride last Sunday. Route actually worked pretty well. Kinda longest, hot after Mt.Tam. Hats are important and water also snacks because theres only two places to actually eat. I started at 10 finished around 6ish at San Anselmo thats with a flat and a couple of long snack breaks and one lunch near Samuel P Taylor. What I'll say about the route. Lovely views, hard climbs, pretty fun single track near the end. There's a good walking section along a trail called Gunfire Fire Rd but I like to call it the Soul Crusher. There is a secret waterhole half way into the trail which is magical after bonking. Here's the route info. 6000+ ft of climbing 60+ Miles 7ish hours https://goo.gl/maps/AMJS8 July 12 Meet at the Ferry Building @ 9 am Bring food and water and your camp stuff. Manny Don't think about it just come Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] You are your own Enemy.
Two pretty good rides this last weekend. One with the future wifey to get her brooks saddle tattooed at RivBBH. Weather was good until the afternoon. 89 to 92 degrees of stupid hot. Future wifey wasn't having it so we took Bart one stop over to shorten the distance but Jamba Juice emergencies made me to runner to get the car. Still pretty good ride. Her saddle tattoo turned out well. Solo Ride that wasn't suppose to be a solo ride. Pre-Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree had to be done. Funny how sometimes having people will keep you from doing stupid things. 30 minutes into the ride I ended up with wet feet for the rest of the ride. Finally rode Bolinas Ridge which was eh but ended up at a secret watering hole so it pretty much worth it. Found out that the route that was suppose to go through was actually a private road, had to back track and after some walk/hiking finally found the route to the 680 trail. Then I flatted. Which took 45 minutes to try to fix. At this point darkness was seeming in and had to take the bus back from the city. Not until I had lunch/dinner at Sol Food. Long day in the saddle was totally worth it. Route is pretty much dialed in will post this soon. Pictures Proved that saddle tattoos are forever: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZtm2Gm Manny Food emergencies are important to stop for Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] You are your own Enemy.
89 degrees stupid hot?? What is it that Kurt Vonnegut said about Northern California in his famous graduation speech? ;) In your defense though, I'd probably say that a 59 degree morning in the summertime was stupid cold ;) I'm coming out there in August for the 3CR 1200K. My wife is from Mobile and I told her to bring at least two sweaters or sweatshirts. She complains when it's under 70. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Two pretty good rides this last weekend. One with the future wifey to get her brooks saddle tattooed at RivBBH. Weather was good until the afternoon. 89 to 92 degrees of stupid hot. Future wifey wasn't having it so we took Bart one stop over to shorten the distance but Jamba Juice emergencies made me to runner to get the car. Still pretty good ride. Her saddle tattoo turned out well. Solo Ride that wasn't suppose to be a solo ride. Pre-Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree had to be done. Funny how sometimes having people will keep you from doing stupid things. 30 minutes into the ride I ended up with wet feet for the rest of the ride. Finally rode Bolinas Ridge which was eh but ended up at a secret watering hole so it pretty much worth it. Found out that the route that was suppose to go through was actually a private road, had to back track and after some walk/hiking finally found the route to the 680 trail. Then I flatted. Which took 45 minutes to try to fix. At this point darkness was seeming in and had to take the bus back from the city. Not until I had lunch/dinner at Sol Food. Long day in the saddle was totally worth it. Route is pretty much dialed in will post this soon. Pictures Proved that saddle tattoos are forever: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZtm2Gm Manny Food emergencies are important to stop for Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I believe that is a Haulin' Colin rack. Pass-n-Stow racks attach at the fork dropouts. Dan On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Stonehog/Brian Hanson has a saddlesack on a porteur rack (Pass-n-Stow rack, I think): https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/10339803905/in/set-72157636675892804 On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:32:39 AM UTC-4, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bikes
Good to see. My wife is African-American, and some of her friends have derided road bike riding as WPF which is to mean, White People Fun. Thankfully, my wife enjoys it. Not quite to the extent I do, but we have ridden up to 47 miles together. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: What I think is most fantastic here is the intersection of these beautiful, timeless bikes with a squadron of 8 African American soldiers who biked 1,900 miles from Missoula to St. Louis. Friends, this was in 1896. The photograph is stunning and if you click on it, it opens up into a huge jpg file. My goodness, the strength. Oh to have a poster of that photograph. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Blug bike....sweet Roadeo
That's the first Roadeo I can recall ever seeing that has mid-fork braze-ons. That's a big plus in my book. On Friday, July 4, 2014 7:55:45 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote: There is a brilliant blue Roadeo on the Blug now that is just awesome looking. If I ever thought I would need another Roadeo to go with my orange one...this color is totally the one I would pick. cool dog too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I haven't done the setup yet, but one configuration on my list of things to try is running my Saddlesack Large on the Nitto Platrack. The two little leather straps that normally go through the Brooks saddle loops will be hanging there with nothing to grab onto. For loopless saddles, there's the Nitto Saddlebag Grip http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r13.htm but for up front, you'd need something else. I bought a couple of these Nitto accessory mounts https://www.benscycle.com/p-1565-nitto-lamp-holder-1-260mm.aspx? to do the job. Clamp one (or two) of these to a sacrificial length of handlebar and I should be good to go. I admit I bought them when they were closer to $30 each and Ben's had a 20% coupon. $43 apiece is kind of steep for experimentation. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:32:39 AM UTC-7, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] You are your own Enemy.
Here's the quote Jim Bronson refers to: Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard. Live in Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft. Travel. It's not a Kurt Vonnegut speech, though. That was the urban myth. The speech was originally a Chicago Tribune column, and then became a spoken word song that was popular on the radio in the late 90's. On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:40:25 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: 89 degrees stupid hot?? What is it that Kurt Vonnegut said about Northern California in his famous graduation speech? ;) In your defense though, I'd probably say that a 59 degree morning in the summertime was stupid cold ;) I'm coming out there in August for the 3CR 1200K. My wife is from Mobile and I told her to bring at least two sweaters or sweatshirts. She complains when it's under 70. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Two pretty good rides this last weekend. One with the future wifey to get her brooks saddle tattooed at RivBBH. Weather was good until the afternoon. 89 to 92 degrees of stupid hot. Future wifey wasn't having it so we took Bart one stop over to shorten the distance but Jamba Juice emergencies made me to runner to get the car. Still pretty good ride. Her saddle tattoo turned out well. Solo Ride that wasn't suppose to be a solo ride. Pre-Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree had to be done. Funny how sometimes having people will keep you from doing stupid things. 30 minutes into the ride I ended up with wet feet for the rest of the ride. Finally rode Bolinas Ridge which was eh but ended up at a secret watering hole so it pretty much worth it. Found out that the route that was suppose to go through was actually a private road, had to back track and after some walk/hiking finally found the route to the 680 trail. Then I flatted. Which took 45 minutes to try to fix. At this point darkness was seeming in and had to take the bus back from the city. Not until I had lunch/dinner at Sol Food. Long day in the saddle was totally worth it. Route is pretty much dialed in will post this soon. Pictures Proved that saddle tattoos are forever: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZtm2Gm Manny Food emergencies are important to stop for Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: NITTO ~ Bullmoose bars + levers/cork grips/bell
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[RBW] Re: fs: IRD Alpina-D Triple front derailleur + CLAMP + phil wood BB tool (package deal)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bikes
Liesl is getting at what I liked about the article and the picture. And note the riding kit On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: What I think is most fantastic here is the intersection of these beautiful, timeless bikes with a squadron of 8 African American soldiers who biked 1,900 miles from Missoula to St. Louis. Friends, this was in 1896. The photograph is stunning and if you click on it, it opens up into a huge jpg file. My goodness, the strength. Oh to have a poster of that photograph. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I have been using a Saddlesack Large with a Nitto Saddlebag Grip mounted to a Cetma 5-rail front rack, it works wonderfully. The Saddlebag Grip mount that usually mounts to saddle rails just barely mounts to the back of the Cetma Rack if you use small enough bolts. I have been using this combination for about 3 months and it's been great. I usually load up the bag with so much that if I used it as a traditional saddlebag it would flex the frame too much and affect handling more than I cared for. For a carry-everything commuter bag set up I couldn't be happier. On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:32:39 AM UTC-7, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS Nitto Moustache bar etc
The cable stops and pods are sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: 26 rear wheel w/phil wood hub; stem shifter mount; MKS sneaker pedals; moustache bar
Cleaning out extra parts from a bike rebuilt (prices do not include shipping) Bontrager Clyde 26 wheel, 36 hole, with Phil Wood hub and Shimano MF-TZ21 7 speed freewheel (used - wheel and hub are of unknown age and freewheel has less than 10 miles on it): Sold! IRD Stem Quill Shifter Mount (nearly new -- used for less than 10 miles): Sold! Moustache bar (used): $20 MKS sneaker pedals (used -- used for less than 100 miles): $10 Items will be shipped via USPS from Germany (equivalent of shipping from New York). Cost of shipping is dependent on size of item. - Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: HAR!!
I received mine this morning. It's a beautiful rack (pair of racks?). The torque specifications for the M5 bolts have me puzzled though. I don't understand the kgfcm/lbfft even after converting to Nm's. If anyone can explain this to me I would greatly appreciate it: *Bolt Torque Specifications:M5: 40-60kgfcm/88-132lbf* The 40-60kgfcm makes sense to me, but the /88-132lbf part throws me. I spoke to Scott at Riv on Saturday who mentioned Riv might be recommending lock washers instead of the Nitto supplied lock ring washers for the installation. He said he found the M5 bolts had started to back out on him after a S24o with about 2-3lbs carried in each bag. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Country Bikes
Ron, sorry, but Patrick is correct. Military contracts were not the impetus of the invention of the boneshaker, of the ordinary, of the safety cycle, or of the pneumatic tire. Herlihy is an excellent history of 19th Century bicycle development from an author well-versed in the primary sources. Publications of The Wheelman and the Veteran-Cycle Club constitute the major English-language journal literature. Authors in these publications, some academic, many amateur, tend to follow proper scholarly practice in citing sources. Bartleet is considered the most reliable earlier source, although not without reservations. The V-CC publishes corrections pamphlets for many histories. The BSA Museum is an enthusiast site, so far as I can see assembled anonymously. Wording in the contact details suggests one person is responsible - no editor, no peer review (real peer review, where the author does not choose or know the reviewers). It would have no merit whatsoever as a source for serious research. In contrast, the publisher of David Herlihy's book is Yale University Press. I recommend it highly. Chris Near Boston On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:12:24 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: pretty much all of the 19th century bicycle advancements were made as part of military contracts http://bsamuseum.wordpress.com/1-welcome-to-the-bsa-museum/ On Sunday, July 6, 2014 7:58:21 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: A riding companion mentioned this article while we were pedaling the weekly Sunday Social ride today. It's a fast read, but evidence that people were riding precursors to RBW bikes way back when.. http://tubulocity.com/?p=64 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: HAR!!
He said he found the M5 bolts had started to back out on him after a S24o with about 2-3lbs carried in each bag. Whenever there's space, I use a long enough bolt to go all the way thru with enough length for a nut, and use nylok nuts. I've toured with plenty of weighty bags for a long time never had a rack come loose. Admittedly a bit belt'n'suspenders. dougP On Monday, July 7, 2014 1:38:46 PM UTC-7, jphil...@icloud.com wrote: I received mine this morning. It's a beautiful rack (pair of racks?). The torque specifications for the M5 bolts have me puzzled though. I don't understand the kgfcm/lbfft even after converting to Nm's. If anyone can explain this to me I would greatly appreciate it: *Bolt Torque Specifications:M5: 40-60kgfcm/88-132lbf* The 40-60kgfcm makes sense to me, but the /88-132lbf part throws me. I spoke to Scott at Riv on Saturday who mentioned Riv might be recommending lock washers instead of the Nitto supplied lock ring washers for the installation. He said he found the M5 bolts had started to back out on him after a S24o with about 2-3lbs carried in each bag. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Saluki 58cm - custom color + SS coupled!
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[RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?
26 wheel bikes like your customs have a feel all there own that you won't be able to duplicate with ANY 700c wheel bike. How much is the weight difference between the frames anyway? a half pound? -Dave J On Sunday, July 6, 2014 4:15:27 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 handles those duties. I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Saluki 58cm - custom color + SS coupled!
Eric, Text me as I can't reply directly from my phone. 239.877.4119. I'm on Chicago and may just want to come shopping at your place. Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett On Jul 7, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Bump..$1425 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/n5Gp3nB8aB4/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: 26 rear wheel w/phil wood hub; stem shifter mount; MKS sneaker pedals; moustache bar
I will buy the MKS sneaker pedals! I live in Zip code 94133. Please send me your PayPal info and I'll pay you. Thanks! Evan E. SF, CA On Monday, June 30, 2014 12:15:02 PM UTC-7, Jenny wrote: Cleaning out extra parts from a bike rebuilt (prices do not include shipping) Bontrager Clyde 26 wheel, 36 hole, with Phil Wood hub and Shimano MF-TZ21 7 speed freewheel (used - wheel and hub are of unknown age and freewheel has less than 10 miles on it): $100 IRD Stem Quill Shifter Mount (nearly new -- used for less than 10 miles): $30 Moustache bar (used): $20 MKS sneaker pedals (used -- used for less than 100 miles): $10 Items will be shipped via USPS. Cost of shipping is dependent on size of item. - Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] You are your own Enemy.
nope, that's the best part about summer vacations in dry climates - cool mornings, and the afternoons are so dry who cares how hot it gets. On Monday, July 7, 2014 12:40:25 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: 89 degrees stupid hot?? What is it that Kurt Vonnegut said about Northern California in his famous graduation speech? ;) In your defense though, I'd probably say that a 59 degree morning in the summertime was stupid cold ;) I'm coming out there in August for the 3CR 1200K. My wife is from Mobile and I told her to bring at least two sweaters or sweatshirts. She complains when it's under 70. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Two pretty good rides this last weekend. One with the future wifey to get her brooks saddle tattooed at RivBBH. Weather was good until the afternoon. 89 to 92 degrees of stupid hot. Future wifey wasn't having it so we took Bart one stop over to shorten the distance but Jamba Juice emergencies made me to runner to get the car. Still pretty good ride. Her saddle tattoo turned out well. Solo Ride that wasn't suppose to be a solo ride. Pre-Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree had to be done. Funny how sometimes having people will keep you from doing stupid things. 30 minutes into the ride I ended up with wet feet for the rest of the ride. Finally rode Bolinas Ridge which was eh but ended up at a secret watering hole so it pretty much worth it. Found out that the route that was suppose to go through was actually a private road, had to back track and after some walk/hiking finally found the route to the 680 trail. Then I flatted. Which took 45 minutes to try to fix. At this point darkness was seeming in and had to take the bus back from the city. Not until I had lunch/dinner at Sol Food. Long day in the saddle was totally worth it. Route is pretty much dialed in will post this soon. Pictures Proved that saddle tattoos are forever: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZtm2Gm Manny Food emergencies are important to stop for Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: 26 rear wheel w/phil wood hub; stem shifter mount; MKS sneaker pedals; moustache bar
Oops. Sorry, all. I could've sworn I hit the reply privately to author button. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?
I want a bike that handles a bit more nimbly than the Ram. It need not handle like my 26-inch wheeled bikes which, however, handle in a very normal way, with the Rivendell signature straight line stability but nice turn in. They are so normal that I don't even consider their wheel size when considering handling. Their own feel is simply Rivendelian. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: 26 wheel bikes like your customs have a feel all there own that you won't be able to duplicate with ANY 700c wheel bike. How much is the weight difference between the frames anyway? a half pound? -Dave J On Sunday, July 6, 2014 4:15:27 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 handles those duties. I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?
Where I *do* notice a difference with the smaller-wheeled bikes is in the sense of momentum, be this fixed or free. The Ram, for instance, just feels like it wants to keep on going once it is up to speed; the smaller, lighter wheels (with the weight closer to the axis of rotation, too) don't give that wonderful feeling. The '95 did feel different, at least with 22 mm tires. It felt too quick, though with 32 mm Paselas it felt fine. But Grant got the '99 and the '03 just right; their geometry is considerably different -- much longer stays, slacker head, possibly other tweaks as well. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I want a bike that handles a bit more nimbly than the Ram. It need not handle like my 26-inch wheeled bikes which, however, handle in a very normal way, with the Rivendell signature straight line stability but nice turn in. They are so normal that I don't even consider their wheel size when considering handling. Their own feel is simply Rivendelian. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: 26 wheel bikes like your customs have a feel all there own that you won't be able to duplicate with ANY 700c wheel bike. How much is the weight difference between the frames anyway? a half pound? -Dave J On Sunday, July 6, 2014 4:15:27 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 handles those duties. I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere
[RBW] ACW Mugs back in stock!
For those that contacted me from the list, I have completed another small batch of ACW mugs for the store. This time NOS from Poland! New buttons too. Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen http://bradclick.bigcartel.com/ Caffeinate early and often! Thanks again for the awesome support and stories of Rivendell ridden coffee fueled adventuring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!
I'll drink to that! On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:02:42 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: For those that contacted me from the list, I have completed another small batch of ACW mugs for the store. This time NOS from Poland! New buttons too. Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen http://bradclick.bigcartel.com/ Caffeinate early and often! Thanks again for the awesome support and stories of Rivendell ridden coffee fueled adventuring. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bikes
YES!!! And check out the frame bags the Buffalo Soldiers are stylin... RESPECT!!! On Monday, July 7, 2014 4:21:13 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: Liesl is getting at what I liked about the article and the picture. And note the riding kit On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org javascript: wrote: What I think is most fantastic here is the intersection of these beautiful, timeless bikes with a squadron of 8 African American soldiers who biked 1,900 miles from Missoula to St. Louis. Friends, this was in 1896. The photograph is stunning and if you click on it, it opens up into a huge jpg file. My goodness, the strength. Oh to have a poster of that photograph. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: HAR!!
40-60kgfcm equates to approximately 4-6N-m which is pretty tight for an M5. 88-132lbf is not a torque unit. There's no length in it. 88 is just 40*2.2 and 132 is 60*2.2, so somebody converted kilogram force to pound force, but that's the right conversion only if you want your torque units to be pound force x cm. Who would want that? At any rate, that torque spec is pretty tight for an M5. If you've got a torque wrench try to get there. I don't have a torque wrench, but I do trust my mechanic hands, and I'd do it tight for an M5. Tighter than a water bottle or a fender M5. Tighter than an M5 threaded into aluminum. Not as tight as a seatpost M6. On Monday, July 7, 2014 1:38:46 PM UTC-7, jphil...@icloud.com wrote: I received mine this morning. It's a beautiful rack (pair of racks?). The torque specifications for the M5 bolts have me puzzled though. I don't understand the kgfcm/lbfft even after converting to Nm's. If anyone can explain this to me I would greatly appreciate it: *Bolt Torque Specifications:M5: 40-60kgfcm/88-132lbf* The 40-60kgfcm makes sense to me, but the /88-132lbf part throws me. I spoke to Scott at Riv on Saturday who mentioned Riv might be recommending lock washers instead of the Nitto supplied lock ring washers for the installation. He said he found the M5 bolts had started to back out on him after a S24o with about 2-3lbs carried in each bag. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
Nice. Could you send me a picture of your set-up? Thanks On Jul 7, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Michael Ullmer mjull...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using a Saddlesack Large with a Nitto Saddlebag Grip mounted to a Cetma 5-rail front rack, it works wonderfully. The Saddlebag Grip mount that usually mounts to saddle rails just barely mounts to the back of the Cetma Rack if you use small enough bolts. I have been using this combination for about 3 months and it's been great. I usually load up the bag with so much that if I used it as a traditional saddlebag it would flex the frame too much and affect handling more than I cared for. For a carry-everything commuter bag set up I couldn't be happier. On Monday, July 7, 2014 5:32:39 AM UTC-7, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/bxA3iOm-iYk/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Country Bikes
Indeed. That photo made my heart swell with such pride. On Monday, July 7, 2014 8:08:35 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: What I think is most fantastic here is the intersection of these beautiful, timeless bikes with a squadron of 8 African American soldiers who biked 1,900 miles from Missoula to St. Louis. Friends, this was in 1896. The photograph is stunning and if you click on it, it opens up into a huge jpg file. My goodness, the strength. Oh to have a poster of that photograph. -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ACW Mugs back in stock!
Great mugs! Here's what happened to one of my new Hilsen blue beauties: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14394798499/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Swap: Heron Wayfarer 59 for 57
i have a minto 59cm silver Heron Warfarer touring frameset that i would like swap for a 57cm.or something equivalent57cm AHH ect mike goldman warwick,r.i. NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs: IRD Alpina-D Triple front derailleur + CLAMP + phil wood BB tool (package deal)
Bump! $40 shipped (PayPal okay as long as fees are covered) On Sunday, July 6, 2014 2:00:03 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: Here's an IRD Alpina-D Triple front derailleur + clamp (28.6mm) Also included is a Phil Wood bottom bracke tool. Front D clamp are in great working order and BB tool is spotless! $50 shipped (PayPal okay as long as fees are covered) http://s23.postimg.org/s8bn2qm4b/image.jpg http://s23.postimg.org/3p9llfhq3/image.jpg http://s23.postimg.org/iz9gsmd8b/image.jpg http://s23.postimg.org/blu2tnt6j/image.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs: Nitto Albatross bars (55cm) + shim!
These are SOLD! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Saluki 58cm - custom color + SS coupled!
Still available! I threw it on the 'bay but would love to have this go to a RBW Owner's Bunch member. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack is in!
I am in, Liesl. Ordered mine over the weekend and got that UPS Quantum View email this afternoon. I will have to engage in delayed gratification for the olive bags, though. Hope the Appalossa is cutting through Minnesota like a knife through butter. ~TOM On Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:47:47 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hey friends, the rack and bags are up on the site! Just got back from up north but might I be the first to spot them? ANyway, they looks swell! A small wait if you want the green canvas bag, but tan are in stock! might have to lose self control in minneapolis, RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack is in!
Mine arrived today but I didn't even have a chance to open the box before I had to head out. Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to put them on. Aloha. Bob On Jul 7, 2014 5:56 PM, Tom Virgil tevir...@gmail.com wrote: I am in, Liesl. Ordered mine over the weekend and got that UPS Quantum View email this afternoon. I will have to engage in delayed gratification for the olive bags, though. Hope the Appalossa is cutting through Minnesota like a knife through butter. ~TOM On Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:47:47 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Hey friends, the rack and bags are up on the site! Just got back from up north but might I be the first to spot them? ANyway, they looks swell! A small wait if you want the green canvas bag, but tan are in stock! might have to lose self control in minneapolis, RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: You are your own Enemy.
Congratulations, Manny. Nuptials on Shell Ridge? - Andrew, Berkeley On Monday, July 7, 2014 10:32:33 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Two pretty good rides this last weekend. One with the future wifey to get her brooks saddle tattooed at RivBBH. Weather was good until the afternoon. 89 to 92 degrees of stupid hot. Future wifey wasn't having it so we took Bart one stop over to shorten the distance but Jamba Juice emergencies made me to runner to get the car. Still pretty good ride. Her saddle tattoo turned out well. Solo Ride that wasn't suppose to be a solo ride. Pre-Ride to the Rivendell Jamboree had to be done. Funny how sometimes having people will keep you from doing stupid things. 30 minutes into the ride I ended up with wet feet for the rest of the ride. Finally rode Bolinas Ridge which was eh but ended up at a secret watering hole so it pretty much worth it. Found out that the route that was suppose to go through was actually a private road, had to back track and after some walk/hiking finally found the route to the 680 trail. Then I flatted. Which took 45 minutes to try to fix. At this point darkness was seeming in and had to take the bus back from the city. Not until I had lunch/dinner at Sol Food. Long day in the saddle was totally worth it. Route is pretty much dialed in will post this soon. Pictures Proved that saddle tattoos are forever: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZtm2Gm Manny Food emergencies are important to stop for Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?
I recently built up a Roadeo (purchased here from a list member) and it's about the most fun I've ever had on a road bike. It's as fast and responsive on the road as any bike I've owned, but if I decide to take a left turn and do some light trail/gravel/dirt riding – well, it handles that just fine too (riding Jack Browns). Only taken it on day rides so far, but it seems as comfortable as my Atlantis (it is set up very similarly – noodle bars, roughly the height of my saddle). We'll see how it does on longer rides – looking forward to some brevets and maybe some superlight (hammock/credit card) touring. If you are into the Rivendell philosophy but still enjoy riding fast, pushing yourself a bit, etc – I think the Roadeo would be a really great fit. William On Monday, July 7, 2014 4:35:19 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Where I *do* notice a difference with the smaller-wheeled bikes is in the sense of momentum, be this fixed or free. The Ram, for instance, just feels like it wants to keep on going once it is up to speed; the smaller, lighter wheels (with the weight closer to the axis of rotation, too) don't give that wonderful feeling. The '95 did feel different, at least with 22 mm tires. It felt too quick, though with 32 mm Paselas it felt fine. But Grant got the '99 and the '03 just right; their geometry is considerably different -- much longer stays, slacker head, possibly other tweaks as well. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I want a bike that handles a bit more nimbly than the Ram. It need not handle like my 26-inch wheeled bikes which, however, handle in a very normal way, with the Rivendell signature straight line stability but nice turn in. They are so normal that I don't even consider their wheel size when considering handling. Their own feel is simply Rivendelian. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Dave Johnston jdi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 26 wheel bikes like your customs have a feel all there own that you won't be able to duplicate with ANY 700c wheel bike. How much is the weight difference between the frames anyway? a half pound? -Dave J On Sunday, July 6, 2014 4:15:27 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 handles those duties. I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build. My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com
[RBW] RBW Jamboree Entmoot website up
Semi-operational. Probably most interesting for people attending but I'll try to cross-link any pic collections or blogs in there. It will be growing as I have time to add stuff and get input. https://sites.google.com/site/rbwjamboree2014/ Send comments and suggestions my way. Some limits on what is possible due to our friends at google but I'll try. Apologies in advance for the look. Needed to do it fast. Dan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone using a Saddlesack on a porteur rack?
I've used my small Saddlesack on my Pass Stow porter. It was OK. Great rack and great bag, but I like the bag a lot better back on the saddle where it was made to go. A medium would fit for sure. I've considered a shop sack more than a few times, so I'm glad that's an option. You might also consider the Swift Polaris https://www.builtbyswift.com/products/19 or Pelican https://www.builtbyswift.com/products/6--they're huge and roomy and nicely built. I've seen a Polaris in person and was really impressed. I have other items by Swift (panniers, tool roll) that are excellent. You can get them in waxed cotton. Freight Baggage also has a bag made for porter racks. Here. http://www.freightbags.com/products/porteur-rack-bag-working On Monday, July 7, 2014 7:32:39 AM UTC-5, SJB wrote: I've been looking for the right bag to mount to my VO porteur rack and haven't found it yet. Last night I had the idea that a Riv saddlesack might just fit my needs. Has anyone used a saddle sack as a front bag? A medium saddlesack pretty much has the same footprint as my VO rack. I'm thinking if I secure it from the bottom with zip ties it will be pretty secure. Any thoughts? Steve Tucson PS- and if anyone in Tucson has a medium saddlesack, I'd love a chance to meet up so I can see how the bags looks in real life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
