Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-07 Thread Evan
Why is that orange Riv still available on San Francisco Craigslist? I don't 
understand. (Must resist. Not need. But . . . )

Evan E.
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Jason Leach
I'll chime in:

54cm Quickbeam
170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard
Albatross
Suzue Free/Free wheelset
B17
Mini Front/ wald/ shopsack
Big Back Rack/ canvas panniers
Planet Bike fenders
700x32mm Wire Bead Paselas
bungee chords, two tubes, a few tools

28lbs

Jason
SF,CA



On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Corwin ernf...@gmail.com wrote:

 My bike/weight:

 62cm Quickbeam

 Built as follows:

 Front wheel - PJW built Shimano 3N80 Dynamo laced to a Velocity Dyad
 Rear wheel - Rich built Phil double sided single speed hub laced to a
 Velocity A23
 Schwalbe 38mm Marathon Supremes
 SKS P45 fenders
 Cantilever brakes
 Sugino XD cranks, 40, 32 chainrings
 Cane Creek hoods
 MKS track pedals
 Nitto Jaguar seat post
 Fizik saddle
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe 11cm stem
 Nitto Noodle bars
 Nitto mini front rack
 Nitto Platrack
 Slickersack
 Schmidt Edelux dynamo light
 Portland Design Cygolite Hot Shot taillight
 Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit lock

 34.8 pounds

 If we leave out the lock (as I sometimes do riding to Downtown Berkeley),
 the weight is 30.6 pounds.

 We won't talk about the 50 - 60 pounds of groceries in the trailer I pull
 home several times a week.

 Regards,


 Corwin


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Tom Harrop
Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my 
unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the 
booze...?

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew J
That is too bad. With the rise of 1x8/9/10 and now 11, I think they could 
really expand their customer base with a good wide-narrow option. Hopefully 
they change their mind in time. 

Agreed to a point.  I like WI stuff.  The more reasons to buy the better.  
I would love to have a WI crank on my 1X bike.

However, product lines are always a challenge for a small manufacturing 
operation like WI.  In order to join the 1X wave it is possible WI would 
need new equipment and employees.  If their product misses or the trend 
dies before the investments pay off it could be quite a blow to their 
viability.  

Not quite the same thing, but a while back there was a good article about 
the Paul Rear Der that for a while in the '90s was the hottest thing 
going.  Despite demand and customers willing to pay a premium, production 
challenges for such a small operation almost put Paul out of business.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrise Coffee Club Tomorrow @ Pirate/Punk Rock

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
No pics?

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Admissable?  Yes.  Is it usable or practical without the booze?  No

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:07:58 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote:

 Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my 
 unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the 
 booze...?


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[RBW] Re: HAR!!

2014-08-07 Thread C.J. Filip
HAR fits on my 60cm single, below eyeletted Saluki.  It's sloping down a 
bit but fits some cheapy Racktime Tour panniers no problemo, even with Paul 
Neoretro brake arms sticking way out.  Had to get some assorted different 
to make the deal work.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think White Industries can afford to offer a wide/narrow chainring for 
exactly the reasons you say that they can't afford to.  To CNC a chainring, 
they need a CNC mill, the right materials, tooling and fixturing suitable 
to hold the material, and a competent CNC operator.  They already have all 
those things.  The only investment is a design, which is not nothing, but 
it's also not a huge monetary expense.  It's Doug sitting at the CAD 
station and deciding to fire out a design.  It's nothing like a 
derailleur.  From the CNC manufacturing perspective, the tooth profile is a 
decorative feature.  Just like if there was a hot new trend in 10mm pitch 
chains, White could react if they wanted to with a couple tweaks to 
existing design templates.  The risk of doing any of these things is mainly 
deciding whether people would buy them or would you be stuck recycling a 
lot of inventory.  Actual physical infrastructure investment would be 
nearly zero, which is why I am optimistic that it could happen.

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:12:21 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 That is too bad. With the rise of 1x8/9/10 and now 11, I think they could 
 really expand their customer base with a good wide-narrow option. Hopefully 
 they change their mind in time. 

 Agreed to a point.  I like WI stuff.  The more reasons to buy the better.  
 I would love to have a WI crank on my 1X bike.

 However, product lines are always a challenge for a small manufacturing 
 operation like WI.  In order to join the 1X wave it is possible WI would 
 need new equipment and employees.  If their product misses or the trend 
 dies before the investments pay off it could be quite a blow to their 
 viability.  

 Not quite the same thing, but a while back there was a good article about 
 the Paul Rear Der that for a while in the '90s was the hottest thing 
 going.  Despite demand and customers willing to pay a premium, production 
 challenges for such a small operation almost put Paul out of business.




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[RBW] Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?

2014-08-07 Thread Roger
I like to discover my dropbar height by shifting it over time until I find I'm 
using the drops about 1/3 of the time when just riding along. 

Turns out that puts the tops a few cams above the saddle.

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[RBW] Re: Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?

2014-08-07 Thread Kieran J
My 48cm Noodles are 2cm below the saddle on the Rambouillet. Shifters are 
Shimano BE.
I rarely use the hooks or the drops. 

KJ


On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:04:10 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Just curious how everyone here rides. There is no right or wrong way, of 
 course - just whatever is comfortable!


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[RBW] Riv button rarity

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay


http://33.media.tumblr.com/62b70ed1d6923d3a3343fd1cd372ef49/tumblr_n9ukzpEUN11qe3ngpo2_1280.jpg
The BLUG has a tribute to a VERY well-loved Atlantis.  The tiny detail that 
caught my eye was the pair of Renovelo buttons on Dion's handlebar bag.  I 
wish I had one!  I always loved that Renovelo logo.  


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[RBW] Re: Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?

2014-08-07 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
l have had 3 back surgeries and 3 carpal tunnel / elbow surgeries so I have 
to run my bars (Salsa Woodchippers) HIGH. I use a Nitto Dirt Drop stem 
(10cm) at max extension (It took a little modification of the stem to allow 
the tight bends of the Woodchipper to fit through). So far my Atlantis is 
the only bike I can ride without severe numbness and pain in my hands. The 
bottom of the drops is about an inch lower than the seat.
On my Ibis HD, I am running Jones bars with a real high stem and it isn't 
working. I think I will end up putting drop bars on it too.

Clayton

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Kelly
My Bombadil while touring... 110 lbs.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/9018162182/in/set-72157633975989097

Kelly

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Williamson
So I have the lightest Quickbeam so far? 
Woot! 

Cryptoweightweenie,
Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Thursday, August 7, 2014 12:17:54 AM UTC-7, Jason Leach wrote:

 I'll chime in:

 54cm Quickbeam
 170mm cranks 42t with a chainguard
 Albatross
 Suzue Free/Free wheelset
 B17
 Mini Front/ wald/ shopsack
 Big Back Rack/ canvas panniers 
 Planet Bike fenders
 700x32mm Wire Bead Paselas
 bungee chords, two tubes, a few tools

 28lbs

 Jason
 SF,CA
  


 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Corwin ern...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 My bike/weight:

 62cm Quickbeam

 Built as follows:

 Front wheel - PJW built Shimano 3N80 Dynamo laced to a Velocity Dyad
 Rear wheel - Rich built Phil double sided single speed hub laced to a 
 Velocity A23
 Schwalbe 38mm Marathon Supremes
 SKS P45 fenders
 Cantilever brakes
 Sugino XD cranks, 40, 32 chainrings
 Cane Creek hoods
 MKS track pedals
 Nitto Jaguar seat post
 Fizik saddle
 Nitto Technomic Deluxe 11cm stem
 Nitto Noodle bars
 Nitto mini front rack
 Nitto Platrack
 Slickersack
 Schmidt Edelux dynamo light
 Portland Design Cygolite Hot Shot taillight
 Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit lock

 34.8 pounds

 If we leave out the lock (as I sometimes do riding to Downtown Berkeley), 
 the weight is 30.6 pounds.

 We won't talk about the 50 - 60 pounds of groceries in the trailer I pull 
 home several times a week.

 Regards,


 Corwin


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells 
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete 
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Williamson
I like the 4 tooth difference, since I have 17/21 Surly Dingle cogs on two 
bikes, which gives 67.5 and 50 with 42/38 rings. 

That seems low on the top end, but seems to work. I also have a 15t on the 
flip side for a 76.5 gear. 
That spread works for my riding, where a 2 or 3 tooth gap does not. The 4t 
difference is minimally viable for road/offroad, or flat/climbing. For me. 

Ideally... a FIVE tooth difference, 43/38 x 16/21 would give me EXACTLY 
what I want: 73.4 and 49.4 with 38mm tires. 
It would also give White a fixed or freewheel cog with a greater range than 
Surly, which would be another differentiator to justify the higher price. 

I think White's ENO line is focused on off-road singlespeeding, not on-road 
or all-round riding. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:53:13 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Philip, I definitely know what you mean and heartily second your idea for 
 a 'Road double-double'...  Wouldn't it be possible to do a wider than 4T 
 delta if they mirrored it in the back?  Like a 34x22 and 40x16...   The 
 options are endless, I understand why they have to focus on a limited set 
 of options given their scale.

 Great cranks though! :)



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 javascript: wrote:

 That is too bad. With the rise of 1x8/9/10 and now 11, I think they could 
 really expand their customer base with a good wide-narrow option. Hopefully 
 they change their mind in time. 
  

 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

  They replied already, saying that they have discussed it internally, 
 but there is no specific plan in place at the moment.  

 I think White's mindset is more single speed where wide/narrow does not 
 make a difference.
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tinker, I think that's brilliant.  Let's ride out to Petaluma and pitch it to 
them.  To make a 16/21 dos freewheel, the just need to make the drivering.  
Heck, we might be able to make one ourselves.  otherwise you can run dual 
single freewheels on a flipflop.

you can easily do 43/38 today with a 110bcd crank.  we should ride our proof of 
concept bikes out there and talk them into it over a few beverages.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB 55cm Glorius, Wilber or Cheviot

2014-08-07 Thread Kendallspower
Found one, please delete

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 2:58:52 PM UTC-7, Kendallspower wrote:

 Looking for a mixte for the wife...

 Located in Los Angeles


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[RBW] Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-07 Thread Derek Lawrence
I just built a Cheviot for my wife and installed a SRAM 9 speed chain. 
Fairly low rings in front (40 x 26), 12t - 36t cassette in back. The 114 
link chain is about 8 links too small.  I've never had a chain come out 
that short. Anyone have best practice for making a chain longer. I'm 
assuming I should just connect two chains using master links, but any 
advice out there?

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 Champion Special

2014-08-07 Thread Soon Chung Lim
Hi everyone

I've a Brooks B17 Champion Special for sale. Saddle is used.
Please get in touch off list if interested and I can send photos.

$90 shipped, economy shipping.

Honey color leather top, chrome rails. Leather is in very good shape
with some abrasion marks on the nose and the corners along with some
slight darkening due to use. Leather top is still pretty flat and
symmetrical.

The leather is seasoned and a little soft, and probably best for a
rider no heavier than 165lbs. I am 185lbs, and it just doesn't work
for me. I bought it recently off eBay and do not know the complete
history of the saddle. Tension nut has not been turned so there should
be a good number of miles left in it. It has the new rear badge so is
a recent production.

Many thanks,
Soon Chung
NYC

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[RBW] Re: Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?

2014-08-07 Thread Geir Bentzen
Well above my saddle height. I can use all positions on my Noodle bars with 
comfort, and find myself being down in the drops on every downhill and 
often on the flats. I used to ride a normal road bike and hardly ever 
used the drops for more than a minute at a time. This is much better.

Geir

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 Just curious how everyone here rides. There is no right or wrong way, of 
 course - just whatever is comfortable!


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[RBW] Re: Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?

2014-08-07 Thread Kyle Brooks
Mine are just a bit below the saddle -- maybe a centimeter or so. I ride on 
the tops and in the drops more or less equally.

Kyle Brooks

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[RBW] Re: fs: Velocity made Riv Standard Wheelset ~ 26

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Andress
Interested, but a few questions:
How many gears do these support?  9, 10?
To verify, these rims are for rim brakes, not disc, correct?
What is the spacing in the front?  I assume 100mm, but want to verify.
Thanks - Chris

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:11:20 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 For sale is my pair of Velocity made Riv Standard Wheelset. 
 RIMS: Velocity Aeroheat
 HUB: Shimano Deore LX
 SPOKES: Velocity Stainless Steel 14/15 double-butted
 REAR SPACING: 135mm

 Comes with 26x1.75 Schwalbe Marathon tires  tubes and skewers. I'll also 
 include 4 new tubes. 

 Approx 1500 miles on this set. Some light marks on the rear brake surface 
  some dirt but otherwise straight  true. A very tuff wheelset! Tires are 
 excellent. I've never had one flat! 

 $250 shipped in CONUS (PayPal via pay for goods  fees covered)

 If you'd like to pick up in Chicago it'll be even cheaper.

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Re: [RBW] Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-07 Thread Goshen Peter
Total noob question but how do you know it's exactly that short? Chain
length and line confuse me so.
On Aug 7, 2014 2:09 PM, Derek Lawrence derekcut...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just built a Cheviot for my wife and installed a SRAM 9 speed chain.
 Fairly low rings in front (40 x 26), 12t - 36t cassette in back. The 114
 link chain is about 8 links too small.  I've never had a chain come out
 that short. Anyone have best practice for making a chain longer. I'm
 assuming I should just connect two chains using master links, but any
 advice out there?

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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Congrats Jon!

Keep us in the loop with all the steps in the process.  Most of us are 
deeply addicted to that sort of thing...

Oh, and don't forget to document your box art:

https://www.flickr.com/groups/rbwboxart/

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Redundant

2014-08-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:56:29 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
What I need to be happy and fast on the bike: Good fit, decent tires, no 
weird noises from the bike. 

More salient truths are seldom better stated...

- J / cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan
That is a late 90's Waterford-built all-rounder with Reynolds 753 frame and 
531 fork. I know this because I have a similar one in my fleet.  But I went 
for the cream headtube and, vanity, my name on the top tube.The one-colour 
frame option I think was about $1250. If it has a handbuilt in Waterford 
Wisconsin , it's a  small-batch production frame. Very nice bike that has 
aged beautifully.
 
Regards, Ryan in Winnipeg
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:42:55 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:

 Custom or an All Rounder?   Nice bike for the right sized person 
 regardless and at a more than fair price.


 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:31 PM, jeffrey kane jsk_o...@mac.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Dan, that is a crazy find, looks legit and while I'd have to loose that 
 stem, I could see myself riding off into the sunset on that baby --- for 
 $1200.00  Truly a steal!

 On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:09:21 AM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 Speaking of too good to be true:

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4603707417.html

 Although seems more legit somehow. If I had room in the stable ...



 On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com wrote:

 I mean Boston, duh. 
 On Aug 5, 2014 9:53 AM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com wrote:

 What the hoods don't go 8 inches over the seat? If that was nyc or 
 Philly I'd buy it now, alas Chicago too far for an adventure. 
 On Aug 5, 2014 7:33 AM, 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@
 googlegroups.com wrote:

 anyone missing this?http://boston.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=
 hillbornesort=rel  I know its paranoid, but it seems 
 sketchy.

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[RBW] Re: Riv button rarity

2014-08-07 Thread Ryan
Indeed. Lots of beausage. We all sure love our rivs. I'm sure the Atlantis 
could go around the world many more times without batting an eye.
 
Rivs wear their war wounds better than any other bike, I think
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:17:46 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 http://33.media.tumblr.com/62b70ed1d6923d3a3343fd1cd372ef49/tumblr_n9ukzpEUN11qe3ngpo2_1280.jpg
 The BLUG has a tribute to a VERY well-loved Atlantis.  The tiny detail 
 that caught my eye was the pair of Renovelo buttons on Dion's handlebar 
 bag.  I wish I had one!  I always loved that Renovelo logo.  




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[RBW] Re: WTB 55cm Glorius, Wilber or Cheviot

2014-08-07 Thread Abcyclehank
Sorry to be noisy but which did you find?

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[RBW] Soma Grand Randonneur or Hetres or Compass Babyshoe Pass

2014-08-07 Thread RJM
Time to start shopping new tires for the Sam Hillborne and I've been 
thinking of going a little wider than the 38 Pari Motos. Is anybody using 
the Soma Grand Randonneur tire and have any opinions on them?  I know the 
Hetres have been the tire to go for but was thinking of purchasing from Riv 
since I have a few more things to pick up and they don't carry it. I 
appreciate the lighter/faster tire on the 650b for many rides that I do 
with the bike so I would like to keep the tire lighterweight, which would 
mean the green version of the Soma tire. Any experiences with the Babyshoe 
Pass?  I use the Stampede Pass on the Roadeo and like them; I would imagine 
the Babyshoe would be much like it but wider/cushier. 
 
Thanks, 
Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew J
 I think White Industries can afford to offer a wide/narrow chainring for 
exactly the reasons you say that they can't afford to...

Well, I certainly hope you are right.  As should be clear I am both a WI 
and 1X fan. .  

Still, I wonder whether it will happen.  CAM is certainly not as 
complicated as tooling a mold to forge parts but it still takes equipment 
and time.  WI already makes a lot of stuff as it is.   I've waited up to 
two months for WI product to show up at the LBS.  Adding more chainrings to 
an already healthy assortment will put additional strain on the system.  
With luck WI is up to it already and will have something out soon.

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Re: [RBW] Soma Grand Randonneur or Hetres or Compass Babyshoe Pass

2014-08-07 Thread Tim Gavin
All these tires are fantastic.  Here's how I understand the situation:

Hetres are the standard.  $60, 412g, skinwall, available with black, red,
or white tread (if that's your thing.

Babyshoe pass are the next-gen Hetre.  Jan has said they have multiple
improvements over the GB tires.  $60, skinwall, 392g.
EL Babyshoe pass are lighter with higher thread count.  $80, 355g, skinwall
or blackwall.

Soma GR greens are competing with the Babyshoe EL (thin and light).  $80,
300g, skinwall.
Soma GR blues are kinda unique in comparison.  Tougher rubber, thicker
tread.  $80, 610g, red skinwall.


So, pick the characteristics that are most important to you.
Price?  = Babyshoe pass (improved, lighter Hetre for the same price)
Color?  = Hetres for tread colors, EL Babyshoe for blackwall
Weight? = Soma GR greens win, but EL Babyshoe is close
Strength? = Soma GR blues, or a different, more stout tire.

I have personal experience only with Grand Bois tires; Lierre on my Riv
Road and Cerf blue on my gofast.  They're great tires that really transform
the speed and handling of any bike.



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 Time to start shopping new tires for the Sam Hillborne and I've been
 thinking of going a little wider than the 38 Pari Motos. Is anybody using
 the Soma Grand Randonneur tire and have any opinions on them?  I know the
 Hetres have been the tire to go for but was thinking of purchasing from Riv
 since I have a few more things to pick up and they don't carry it. I
 appreciate the lighter/faster tire on the 650b for many rides that I do
 with the bike so I would like to keep the tire lighterweight, which would
 mean the green version of the Soma tire. Any experiences with the Babyshoe
 Pass?  I use the Stampede Pass on the Roadeo and like them; I would imagine
 the Babyshoe would be much like it but wider/cushier.

 Thanks,
 Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Mark Reimer
On that note, I wonder if it's any more likely that a third party would
make compatible wide-narrow rings. I have noticed there are at least one or
two other direct-mount wide-narrow ring manufacturers out there, making
rings for SRAM's XO/1x11 system, but I guess the demand is much higher for
that than WI stuff. I know Home Brewed Components used to make aftermarket
rings, but from what I gather that company is basically non-existant now.
Of course I would way rather buy direct from White. Their stuff has always
been great and I'd prefer to support them directly.


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  I think White Industries can afford to offer a wide/narrow chainring for
 exactly the reasons you say that they can't afford to...

 Well, I certainly hope you are right.  As should be clear I am both a WI
 and 1X fan. .

 Still, I wonder whether it will happen.  CAM is certainly not as
 complicated as tooling a mold to forge parts but it still takes equipment
 and time.  WI already makes a lot of stuff as it is.   I've waited up to
 two months for WI product to show up at the LBS.  Adding more chainrings to
 an already healthy assortment will put additional strain on the system.
 With luck WI is up to it already and will have something out soon.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Five pounds lighter than my Q Phillip. You're killing me here! 

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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread Roger


On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:27:12 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 ...don't forget to document your box art...
 - Jim


One trade off to the joy of being able to visit RWHQ often is that I never 
get packages with box art.
My Hillborne was handed to me seconds after having its head badge affixed, 
with best wishes by Mark, which felt quite good, though. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrise Coffee Club Tomorrow @ Pirate/Punk Rock

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Chen
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/14842179874/ or it didn't happen


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 6:34 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 No pics?

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
For sure *if* their CNC mill is already running at full capacity, *then* 
they need more capacity in order to expand their offerings and supply more 
parts.  

To me it's all about their perception of a need (do 1x riders really drop 
their chain with our current parts?), followed by a willingness to fill 
that need (Let's steal RaceFace's lunch money!) and then executing a 
design.  The manufacturing part will take care of itself after that.  From 
what Lynette said, they have only discussed the need, but haven't done 
anything about it yet. 

That gets me thinking...

I have a VBC crankset on my road bike.  It's a 44/30.  I could just remove 
the front derailer and the 30T ring, and put on a bigger cassette.  Maybe 
borrow the Rivvy 12-34 from my Hillborne.  That would give me a 1x9 with 
gears of:  35,42,50,57,66,74,85,91,99

What else would I possibly need on a road bike?


On Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:02:51 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

  I think White Industries can afford to offer a wide/narrow chainring for 
 exactly the reasons you say that they can't afford to...

 Well, I certainly hope you are right.  As should be clear I am both a WI 
 and 1X fan. .  

 Still, I wonder whether it will happen.  CAM is certainly not as 
 complicated as tooling a mold to forge parts but it still takes equipment 
 and time.  WI already makes a lot of stuff as it is.   I've waited up to 
 two months for WI product to show up at the LBS.  Adding more chainrings to 
 an already healthy assortment will put additional strain on the system.  
 With luck WI is up to it already and will have something out soon.


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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
Roger,
Don't feel bad. I live in MD and didn't get no box art other than top 
writ on the bike box! But it was a Sam and not the high dollar bikes...

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew J
 I have a VBC crankset on my road bike.  It's a 44/30.  I could just 
remove the front derailer and the 30T ring, and put on a bigger cassette. 
 Maybe borrow the Rivvy 12-34 from my Hillborne.   That would give me a 
1x9 with gears of:  35,42,50,57,66,74,85,91,99

That's what I'm thinking.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Matthew J
Of course I would way rather buy direct from White. Their stuff has always 
been great and I'd prefer to support them directly.  

I'm trying to think if anyone else makes WI compatible rings of any sort.  
It could be WI has IP protection for the ring/arm interface and will not 
license.  Just thinking out loud here.  I have no knowledge one way or the 
other.  Certainly would be happy to use a Wolf Tooth ring on a WI crank. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam


 Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right?

 
I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more 
likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than 
Hetres but cannot confirm.

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[RBW] Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread Serial Griller
I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I 
seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Riv button rarity

2014-08-07 Thread Liesl
What are some of the other buttons? I have the following:

-EA I trust 'em (early adopter)
-RB Rosco Bubbe a fine idea but too pricey
-just ride
-RBW

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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread Kieran J
Sort of depends on the context.

In downtown Toronto, I use a heavy duty (and just heavy) Kryptonite NY Lock 
locking the rear tire inside the rear triangle to the rack, and a Trek 
cable lock from the saddle rails to either the rack or to the frame itself. 
Pitlocks on the wheels.

In lower-risk situations (and on the back of the car), I just use the cable 
lock, as it is small and light and fits nicely into the saddle bag.

KJ


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 I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I 
 seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
 What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
 Thanks,
 Jon


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread Robert F. Harrison
In Honolulu I just use a decent Kryptonite U-Lock through the frame and
rear wheel. Note, however, that I use Pitlocks on my wheels and seatpost as
well. In addition I rarely lock my bike out of sight for very long. I
haven't had any trouble with the bike itself though folks have stolen bags
and lights off the bike.

I do commute to work on my bike, but we have a fenced and locked area for
our bikes so it's not as big a worry.

Aloha, Bob


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sort of depends on the context.

 In downtown Toronto, I use a heavy duty (and just heavy) Kryptonite NY
 Lock locking the rear tire inside the rear triangle to the rack, and a Trek
 cable lock from the saddle rails to either the rack or to the frame itself.
 Pitlocks on the wheels.

 In lower-risk situations (and on the back of the car), I just use the
 cable lock, as it is small and light and fits nicely into the saddle bag.

 KJ


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 I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I
 seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
 What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
 Thanks,
 Jon

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Dave @ Riv
That guy on the HILSEN was our very own riv Jared!
Flyin.

On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:26:12 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:


 On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:39:54 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 IIRC, my errand custom fixie is ~23 lb without fenders but with rack, 
 dyno lights, cages. The gofast is 17 3/4 lb. The Fargo IIRC is ~30 lb: it 
 may be 28 or it may be 31, I forget. Again, all ready to ride with all bolt 
 on parts except fenders but no bags or bottles. 

  
 Ha, you guys are a bunch of weight weenies!  :)  On Sunday, both buddy and 
 I were riding our carbon bikes climbing out of Sausalito towards the 
 bridge. His bike is the latest 2014 Trek Madone with ultegra di2, probably 
 weighs about 16 or so pounds. I'm on my tank calfee that weighs in at 
 18+lbs. As we were cruising up the first hill out of Sausalito, this guy 
 on a Hillborne blows past us. He had massive amounts of tattoos on both is 
 legs and arm and had a big Nelson type saddle bag. He was flying up the 
 hill pass us and I couldn't see anything else on his bike like whether it 
 had a double toptube or not. Needless to say, his bike was probably heavier 
 than both our bikes, but that in no way stopped him from flying up the 
 hill! 

 And my bars are 3 cm below saddle for the Maes Paralells (shallow drop), 
 perhaps 2 1/2 cm for the Noodles; 2 cm above for the Fargo.



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Re: [RBW] Chain Length - Cheviot

2014-08-07 Thread dougP
Peter:

Scroll down thru this article from Sheldon Brown's website for info on 
chain length:

http://sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html#chain

I think there's something about chainline somewhere else on the site.  

dougP

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:11:46 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 Total noob question but how do you know it's exactly that short? Chain 
 length and line confuse me so. 
 On Aug 7, 2014 2:09 PM, Derek Lawrence derek...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I just built a Cheviot for my wife and installed a SRAM 9 speed chain. 
 Fairly low rings in front (40 x 26), 12t - 36t cassette in back. The 114 
 link chain is about 8 links too small.  I've never had a chain come out 
 that short. Anyone have best practice for making a chain longer. I'm 
 assuming I should just connect two chains using master links, but any 
 advice out there?

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[RBW] FS V2: Cranks, brakes, pedals, seatpost, Big Bens and 1 FREE 2014 ENTMOOT patch

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Williams
Hey group,  still got some stuff for sale,   prices INCLUDE shipping, 
 please email off list,   thank you

1) Sugino GP 110 crank arms,  triple compatible,   175 length   $ 23
2) MKS touring pedals   $22/ pair
3)  1 set Shimano CX70 Canti brakes,  they come with 3 sets of spacers 
short/ med/ long,   its missing one of the long ones  pads are in okay 
shape$60
4)   I set of Cane Creek  SCX-5 canti brakes,  black,   pads are okay   $25
5) Tektro Quartz Canti/ Sidepull brake levers   $12/pair
6)I think a Kalloy seatpost,  basically brand new,  27.2 diameter/ 250 
mm length single bolt  $12
7)   700x 55 Big Bens,  used but lots of life   $22/pair

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Re: [RBW] seems too good to be true/ possibly stolen

2014-08-07 Thread Patrick Shea
That All-Rounder looks like the one my friend and co-worker used to ride to
work. Very interesting back story with tragedy, comedy, and indifference
all represented. Sadly, my friend passed away a couple of years back. He
was a cyclist to the core.

Helprman


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 That is a late 90's Waterford-built all-rounder with Reynolds 753 frame
 and 531 fork. I know this because I have a similar one in my fleet.  But I
 went for the cream headtube and, vanity, my name on the top tube.The
 one-colour frame option I think was about $1250. If it has a handbuilt in
 Waterford Wisconsin , it's a  small-batch production frame. Very nice bike
 that has aged beautifully.

 Regards, Ryan in Winnipeg
 On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:42:55 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:

 Custom or an All Rounder?   Nice bike for the right sized person
 regardless and at a more than fair price.


 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:31 PM, jeffrey kane jsk_o...@mac.com wrote:

 Dan, that is a crazy find, looks legit and while I'd have to loose that
 stem, I could see myself riding off into the sunset on that baby --- for
 $1200.00  Truly a steal!

 On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 10:09:21 AM UTC-4, danmc wrote:

 Speaking of too good to be true:

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/4603707417.html

 Although seems more legit somehow. If I had room in the stable ...



 On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com wrote:

 I mean Boston, duh.
 On Aug 5, 2014 9:53 AM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com wrote:

 What the hoods don't go 8 inches over the seat? If that was nyc or
 Philly I'd buy it now, alas Chicago too far for an adventure.
 On Aug 5, 2014 7:33 AM, 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 anyone missing this?http://boston.craigslist.or
 g/search/sss?query=hillbornesort=rel  I know its paranoid, but
 it seems sketchy.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you ride your drop bars above, at, or below saddle height on your Rivbikes?

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Chen
Another takeaway: don't be afraid to change things. That's why you have a
quill stem, right? :)


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Geir Bentzen geirbent...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well above my saddle height. I can use all positions on my Noodle bars
 with comfort, and find myself being down in the drops on every downhill and
 often on the flats. I used to ride a normal road bike and hardly ever
 used the drops for more than a minute at a time. This is much better.

 Geir


 On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:04:10 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Just curious how everyone here rides. There is no right or wrong way, of
 course - just whatever is comfortable!

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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread dougP
Box art may depend on how busy the shipping dept is that day.  Or whether 
the box artist is working.  

dougP

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 3:06:26 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Roger,
 Don't feel bad. I live in MD and didn't get no box art other than top 
 writ on the bike box! But it was a Sam and not the high dollar bikes...


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread Chris Chen
The Abus Granit u-lock is nice and long, and also light. I like it a lot.


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wrote:

 In Honolulu I just use a decent Kryptonite U-Lock through the frame and
 rear wheel. Note, however, that I use Pitlocks on my wheels and seatpost as
 well. In addition I rarely lock my bike out of sight for very long. I
 haven't had any trouble with the bike itself though folks have stolen bags
 and lights off the bike.

 I do commute to work on my bike, but we have a fenced and locked area for
 our bikes so it's not as big a worry.

 Aloha, Bob


 On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sort of depends on the context.

 In downtown Toronto, I use a heavy duty (and just heavy) Kryptonite NY
 Lock locking the rear tire inside the rear triangle to the rack, and a Trek
 cable lock from the saddle rails to either the rack or to the frame itself.
 Pitlocks on the wheels.

 In lower-risk situations (and on the back of the car), I just use the
 cable lock, as it is small and light and fits nicely into the saddle bag.

 KJ


 On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:34:48 PM UTC-4, Serial Griller wrote:

 I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I
 seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
 What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
 Thanks,
 Jon

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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread Serial Griller
Thanks Guys! I'm very excited.I was told It will get here sometime next 
week.I'll post progress pics as I go along. Box Art!! How fun..I'm sure UPS 
has fun with that too! 
Jon
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 3:35:13 PM UTC-6, Serial Griller wrote:

 I pulled the trigger and ordered a Sam frame/fork and some parts. I am 
 looking forward to building it up.. A fun project for sure. Brian at 
 Rivendell was very helpful with picking components.
 Very excited.
 I would like to thank my Colorado neighbor, Deacon Patrick for his helpful 
 suggestions   advice. 
  I'll post progress pictures as I go along.
 Jon
  


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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread Serial Griller
I agree with not letting the bike out of site for any length of time. If I 
can't see my bike during a lunch ride I get the food to go and go find a 
park bench.
Thanks for your input. A lot of good choices.
Jon
On Thursday, August 7, 2014 4:34:48 PM UTC-6, Serial Griller wrote:

 I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I 
 seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
 What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
 Thanks,
 Jon


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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread oldmangabe
My opinion and experience.

Honestly getting a high quality u-lock and using it correctly is the best 
theft deterrent and piece of mind when looking to protect the frame/fork or 
whole bike regardless of the bikes value. I use/used and like the 
Kryponite, Abus, and On Guard u-locks (mini versions). I've had my last 
Kryptonite u-lock going on six years of daily use. All good u-locks will be 
kind of hefty, but it's worth it. I wouldn't really recommend using more 
than one u-lock on the bike because of the hassle, excess weight, and 
redundancy/over-complication of the situation. If you live in an area 
without a lot of parking meters or well designed/useful bike racks, the 
kryptonite NY chain locks are great for fitting around bigger street sign 
poles. I believe Abus makes something similar, or you can make your own by 
buying the best chain and lock at a hardware store and sheathing it in a 
used tube. Though if one doesn't live in a high density area, or an area 
with a high theft problem, a single good u-lock will be sufficient for 
securing your bike. 

I also use Pitlock skewers on my hubs and seatpost for the bikes I ride in 
SF or other urban areas where practicality dictates locking them outside or 
even inside public garages or bike parking areas. These give me piece of 
mind to enjoy whatever it is I am doing and not having to fret about the 
wheels and seat. Combined with the u-lock I am pretty much worry free. Pay 
attention to what you lock up to and that you properly lock the frame to 
the desired structure. If you don't want to deal with or pay for the 
Pitlocks, there are less expensive allen key skewers. Or you can use a 
decent sized cable to secure your wheels or seat. Also, never leave your 
bike locked up overnight in a publicly accessible location (ie: on the 
street, public garages. bike racks).

As for best modes of locking bikes to auto bike racks, I have no idea 
really. Maybe try the u-lock? Also, I think some/most roof or bed mount 
racks have locking attachments. 

Best,

Gabe 






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 I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I 
 seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
 What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Soma Grand Randonneur or Hetres or Compass Babyshoe Pass

2014-08-07 Thread ted
I have a pair of the light Soma GRs from RBW on my AHH. I have only been on 
one ride since getting them so not much experience yet. They seem like very 
nice tires. Prior to the GRs I had Cypres tires on that bike. Just looking 
at them the size difference is very noticeable. I haven't noticed a big 
difference in cush/comfort going to the much wider tire. I think the 
handling of the bike is a bit less responsive/more stable with the bigger 
tire. The GRs seem more audible than the Cypres were. I have not ridden 
Pari-moto, Hetre, or Bayshoe Pass.
I think these are all fine tires, and you won't go far wrong with any of 
them.
Keep in mind the GRs are slicks. I kinda like that, but others may not. 

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:45:03 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote:

 Time to start shopping new tires for the Sam Hillborne and I've been 
 thinking of going a little wider than the 38 Pari Motos. Is anybody using 
 the Soma Grand Randonneur tire and have any opinions on them?  I know the 
 Hetres have been the tire to go for but was thinking of purchasing from Riv 
 since I have a few more things to pick up and they don't carry it. I 
 appreciate the lighter/faster tire on the 650b for many rides that I do 
 with the bike so I would like to keep the tire lighterweight, which would 
 mean the green version of the Soma tire. Any experiences with the Babyshoe 
 Pass?  I use the Stampede Pass on the Roadeo and like them; I would imagine 
 the Babyshoe would be much like it but wider/cushier. 
  
 Thanks, 
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[RBW] Re: looking for opinions on the Rivendell Roadeo

2014-08-07 Thread Don Compton
My Roadeo, a 59cm with a quill stem, weighs about 21-22 lbs. I have record 
10 shifters and derailleurs, Shimano brakes, Campy hubs with Veocity A23 
rims, Grand Bois 700x28 tires, B-17Ti, and Thomson seatpost. I have many 
other bikes that are lighter, but on long rides, I choose my Roadeo, hilly 
or not. On fast downhills, the Grant Pedersen handling is flawless and 
inspires confidence.
Don Compton

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 12:57:39 PM UTC-7, dicktill wrote:

 As the subject says, I'm looking for opinions on the Rivendell Roadeo.

 I generally do 20-50 solo mile rides at speeds in the 14-16 mph average 
 range with an average of 30-50 ft elevation gain per mile. So light-*ish* 
 weight is nice, but not critical; i.e., an 18-20 pound bike is fine. But 
 I'm looking for a bike that puts stability over cutting-edge cornering or 
 descending (I'm a weenie, and don't descend at over 30 mph). Would love 
 it if I could learn to ride this bike no-hands for a bit now and then, 
 like if I have to zip up my jersey or jacket (like the guys on the TdF); 
 can't do that now on my current road bike (Airborne Zeppelin).

 Thanks in advance, Dick 


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[RBW] Crankset Question

2014-08-07 Thread Goshen Peter
As a frequent Amazon and Rivendell lurker I saw this deal and was wondering
if they were the same cranks? I dont need anything right now but there seem
to be a few different iterations of the xd600 out there, or so it seems.

http://www.amazon.com/Sugino-175mm-26-36-46-74-110-7-8-Speed/dp/B001GSSE2Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1407466994sr=8-2keywords=sugino+xd600

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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread John Stowe
I live and ride around Washington, DC. My current standard carry is a 
hefty U lock (OnGuard, the shorter version) and a folding lock (Abus 
Bordo). Also locking skewers and a cable permanently attaching the saddle 
to the frame. I can park indoors at home and office; at church, the one 
place I park outside regularly (opportunity for thieves to scout and 
return), I keep a big chain locked to the rack - my brother, wife and I all 
have keys for it so we can each use it when we're there. 

Also, I ride my boring-looking (but still fairly nice) black aluminum Trek, 
with essentially the same lock strategy, if I'm going somewhere where I or 
my shiny Sam Hillborne might draw unwanted attention.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-BB2IXcFKCrw/U-Q8ASEHodI/Bg8/s2BqzkZdtoE/s1600/Photo%2BAug%2B07%2C%2B7%2B20%2B38%2BPM.jpg
 
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-anvKLsAzavI/U-Q7mjEaqoI/Bgs/rdWB8EkBT-k/s1600/Photo%2BAug%2B07%2C%2B7%2B20%2B05%2BPM.jpg
 



On Thursday, August 7, 2014 6:34:48 PM UTC-4, Serial Griller wrote:

 I normally do my ride and lock my bike in the rack on my truck since I 
 seldom ride from home.( I live in the boon docks)
 What kind of lock set ups are popular with all of you.
 Thanks,
 Jon


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[RBW] Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-07 Thread Eric
 


*Here’s a big bundle of stuff for sale! For the first 8 items prices 
include shipping in CONUS. *


*Below these items I also include a list of smaller Riv related “add-ons” 
items that you can tag onto your purchase. The prices for these do not 
include shipping so if you'd just want one of the items in the add-on 
list let me know  we'll work it out.*

*Payment via PayPal is great. But it needs to be sent via “pay for goods” 
with fees covered. I also need to ship to your “confirmed” shipping address 
on PayPal. *

   - Shimano Brake Levers - $25

http://s4.postimg.org/8q3cmbdwd/IMG_0180.jpg

http://s4.postimg.org/pckwve6u5/IMG_0181.jpg

   - Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem. 10cm in length / 26.0 clamp. Used but 
   great shape. $40

http://s27.postimg.org/vpwxxx8n7/image.jpg 
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fvpwxxx8n7%2Fimage.jpgsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNG7ZEFWqVPGhc9sB33bE4LPhyni1Q
http://s27.postimg.org/v6n9awrur/image.jpg

   - Nitto S82 seat post. 27.2 diamter. Typical grease  insertion marks. 
   $60  

http://s27.postimg.org/s7ky1j7r7/image.jpg
http://s27.postimg.org/khe5we5fn/image.jpg
http://s27.postimg.org/sgiirgkjn/image.jpg

   - Sugino XD2 crankset (170mm). 46/36/24. Typical light wear  grease. 
   $100  

http://s24.postimg.org/t6eg94j3p/IMG_0196.jpg

   - Shimano BR-550 canti brake set (front + rear). Used but great shape. 
   $25

http://s29.postimg.org/4xfdlbbfr/IMG_0222.jpg


   - Tektro CR720 canti brake set (front + rear). Used but great shape. 
   $25  

http://s29.postimg.org/yx99ohnzb/IMG_0237.jpg

   - Sram 11-32 cassette (9 speed) w/ lockring. Comes with a used 9 speed. 
   Both are used (2000 miles) but in great working order. $20  

http://s28.postimg.org/wa0g8o41p/IMG_0198.jpg

   - IRD Alpina-D Triple front derailleur + clamp (28.6mm). $25  

http://s29.postimg.org/46i21sjon/IMG_0233.jpg

http://s29.postimg.org/vravt217r/IMG_0234.jpg

http://s29.postimg.org/vftfgakrr/IMG_0235.jpg

__

*ADD ONS BELOW!*

   - Basket net - $5

http://s30.postimg.org/vkpu3p6f5/IMG_0159.jpg  

   - Sheldon’s Fender Nuts – NIB - $10

http://s30.postimg.org/pl2301lmp/IMG_0163.jpg  

   - Brass Bell - $5

http://s21.postimg.org/besod86x3/IMG_0172.jpg  

   - Two pairs of Nitto rack struts. $15
   
   The longer set is 18cm (end to end) and the shorter set is 12cm (end to 
   end).
   
http://s10.postimg.org/oleta10eh/IMG_0200.jpg 
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Foleta10eh%2FIMG_0200.jpgsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHHLjD92ho3se-JoHmm_w9HU-vJUg

   - Nitto rack hardware “driving board” for a rear rack. $3  

http://s9.postimg.org/3nf30x08f/IMG_0236.jpg 
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimg.org%2F3nf30x08f%2FIMG_0236.jpgsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFtOH1cJcrp2WZF5Ic9nptrp2ZbGg

   - Nitto bar end plugs - $10  

http://s15.postimg.org/n4a6f1g6j/IMG_0203.jpg

   - Origin 8 – FD clamp (28.6), unused. $5  

http://s24.postimg.org/69x0zb1dh/IMG_0201.jpg

   - Brooks saddle cover + Brooks tensioning wrench. $10
   
http://s21.postimg.org/74c315h47/IMG_0224.jpg


   - Six rolls of bar tape. (2) Blue, (2) Dark Blue of Newbaum's and (2) 
   used roll of cork. $15
   
http://s27.postimg.org/lieelimf7/IMG_0169.jpg
http://s27.postimg.org/los3olvk3/IMG_0167.jpg

   - Tange 68x110 (110.5mm) Square Taper Bottom Bracket. Used but 
   excellent. $4 

http://s28.postimg.org/3wmkz8osd/IMG_0209.jpg
   
   - Rivendell tail light adaptor. $3 

http://s13.postimg.org/wd9gikwlj/IMG_0292.jpg 

 

 

 

 

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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread blakcloud
Depends on the situation for me.

At my condo, I have two New York Fahgettaboudit locks on my Sam and two 
more on the Betty. This is supplemented by a Kryptonite mini U lock 
attached to a Krypto cable locked around a bike stand for each bike . The 
Brooks saddles has a bicycle chain wrapped in an inner tube that is 
attached to the frame. 

If I go out for something quick, I just bring one Kyrptonite Evolution 
Series 4 with a Kyrpto cable. 

If I need to leave the bike for a longer period, 2 Kyrptonite Evolution 
Series 4 with the Krypto cable. 

I have 12 Kryptonite U locks to lock all my bikes, The Bromptons stay in 
the condo. Though I like the idea of Pitlocks and need to give it serious 
consideration. Bike theft here in Toronto has always been a problem. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo
1. Saluki
2. 60cm
3. 28 lbs, 42 lbs at full commuting load

1. XO-3 (1993, 26), single speed
2. 59cm
3. 27 lbs.

I would have figured the XO to be a couple lbs lighter but I have some 
junky Kenda 1.95 tires and a B67 saddle that probably account for a pound 
or two of weight delta just there.  I believe my 650B converted, 531C 
framed Trek was right around 32lbs racked and fendered.  I'll have to come 
back to this once I receive my new-to-me rSOGN and build it up!
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-07 Thread dougP
There seem to be variations of Sugino cranks with similar names.  The 
variety comes in the chainrings, some with ramps'n'pins (like your 
example), some with steel grannys, some with steel middles and /or outers.  
Another variation is tooth counts:  24/36/46; 26/36/46; 24/36/48.  No huge 
differences but worth finding out what you're getting if it's important to 
you.  But $99 for a nicely finished complete crankset is a decent bargain.  

dougP

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:03:43 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

 As a frequent Amazon and Rivendell lurker I saw this deal and was 
 wondering if they were the same cranks? I dont need anything right now but 
 there seem to be a few different iterations of the xd600 out there, or so 
 it seems. 


 http://www.amazon.com/Sugino-175mm-26-36-46-74-110-7-8-Speed/dp/B001GSSE2Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1407466994sr=8-2keywords=sugino+xd600
  

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[RBW] Re: Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-07 Thread Eric
Just FYI, for the add on items shipping IS NOT included but we can work 
out anything especially if you want to bundle stuff up. Thanks!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Williamson
I could rig a 44/39 pretty easily I think, depending on BCD, and I have a 17t 
WI cog. A 22t FW would give the 5 tooth difference. 

We ride over to White Industries World Headquarters, I buy a 22t FW, and spin 
it on while you explain the concept. Ride out to the Tin Bar, discuss it over a 
pint. Flip the wheel and ride up Stage Gulch. Flip again at the top. Ride down 
Adobe to Manor, flip again for the Manor climb. Ride back to the new tasting 
room across from Lagunitas, discuss further. 

This would be fun even if no one at White was interested in the demonstration...

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: Fire Sale!!! Lots of stuff ....brakes, crank, derailleur, tape, stem, ect!!!

2014-08-07 Thread Conway Bennett
I'll buy that bell.

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[RBW] FS nearly new parts

2014-08-07 Thread Dave Brandt
$125 Soma Stainless Steel Porteur rack with custom oak slats ( lower axle 
mounts have been trimmed, requiring dropout eyelet mounting)

http://somafab.blogspot.com/2014/03/grand-randonneur-porteur-build.html?m=0

$100. Rivendell Sackville Saddlesack small olive. I have added a hard liner. 
Also shown in above photo.

$35   Nitto Mustache handlebars

$15   On One Midge handlebars

$30   Paul Shimano Thumbies, shown on above

I have not listed these items on Craigslist or Ebay hoping one of the Rivendell 
group can use them. I have no current plans for these items and I hope one of 
you can use them. Local pick up only and I will sell all of the items as a 
package for $235.
I am located on Peninsula of the San Francisco Bay Area.

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
Oh yeah, and the black and raspberry SUGINO sticker label is on the small 
ring of the 600, and the middle ring of the XD2


  

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[RBW] Re: Crankset Question

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
the rings in the amazon pic look different than the XD2 and 600

 

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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam


 I use:

1. Kryptonite evolution mini lock when dining in Maryland Suburbia.
2. I use special security bolts from  
http://www.bicyclebolts.com/collections/security-allen-bolts
They can also be used for securing seatpost in frame, and water bottle 
cages, too. Can also be used for securing some saddles to seatpost and 
fender stays, racks, etc.
3. I also use a really long Kryptonite U lock for securing front wheel and 
frame to a post.

I am looking for a solution though for securing wheels. I used to use the 
Zefal Lock n Roll skewers. But they are easily defeated, and twice the 
levers were jammed somehow and could not be taken off the way they were 
supposed to. Good thing it wasn't during a flat repair or I would have to 
walk home.

I think Pitlocks would be my next choice but that is a big investment.

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[RBW] Re: Bike locks ?

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam


 @John Stowe,


You lock your Hillborne up on DC streets?
I don't live in DC, but would be nervous doing that. How's the track record 
been?

ps- pm me if you want to do a matching Hillborne ride sometime. I live near 
Columbia, MD. 

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[RBW] FS: 6cm Technomic

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
45$ shipped CONUS?
26.0 clamp
6cm extension
Very low miles. Had it on my Sam for only a month or so with 'staches.

I'll throw in a roll of Black Newbaum's, too. (one roll).


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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
 

 Are you getting the smoke blue color, or the sage green?

I have seen both in person and they are both delicious. 

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[RBW] Compass 650b 38 vs. 650b 42 mm tires question.

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
Loup Loup vs. Babyshoe
Wonder what the ride quality diff is. They are so close in size.
Flat diffs?
Trying to decide on one or t'other for my smooth road riding with my 175 
lb. body on my Hillborne.
The 38's might get me some more clearance under my fenders, vs. my 42 
Hetres. Can use the Hetres as spares for my other bike.
So thinking of going that-a-way if they will perform the same.

Thanks for any info.



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[RBW] Re: I ordered a Sam!

2014-08-07 Thread lungimsam
The only art work that matters is the art work that you are going to be 
pulling out of that box, my friend.


 

  


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