date:20141117

+1 on the Chromes – love ‘em.  Pretty good looking, too

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

I've ridden long hard miles without foot pain on both grip kings and VP001 in 
Merrell Proterra Sport shoes.  I paid retail for mine, and would do it again, 
though they're beginning to pop up with discounted prices around the net.  I 
usually ride the platform pedals centered on my arch, though it's also easy to 
move my foot back to the ball of my foot.
On my go-fast with MKS Keirin pedals and toe clips, I wear Chrome sneakers.  
Here the pedal is fixed to the ball of my foot.  The Chrome sneakers have 
solid, lightweight shanks and I definitely get no foot strain in those shoes.  
Before the Chrome, I tried other tennis shoes on these pedals and could work up 
some serious arch strain.  But again, solved completely with Chrome sneakers.
I have fivetens for my kayak - haven't biked in them.

On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:17:16 AM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote:
I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with either 
a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly recommend!). 
 My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes.  Has anyone found a 
stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

Thanks,
John
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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B68, Huppe/hoop, Baggins Banana Bag, Wool Bag liner

2014-11-17 Thread Dave Johnston

The Hoop and Banana Bag have been sold.
 
-Dave J
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Ron Mc

Pudge, I have ice-skate feet - 13 narrow.  The Chrome's fit them well, and 
they go great inside toe clips, but they run narrow and I wouldn't 
recommend them to someone with wide feet.  
As far as the Merrell Proterras, they have great arch support, and a wide 
platform - they give you room to splay your toes out, like spreading your 
fingers inside the shoes.  

On Monday, November 17, 2014 10:47:10 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:

  +1 on the Chromes – love ‘em.  Pretty good looking, too

  

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 Kings)

  
  
 I've ridden long hard miles without foot pain on both grip kings and VP001 
 in Merrell Proterra Sport shoes.  I paid retail for mine, and would do it 
 again, though they're beginning to pop up with discounted prices around the 
 net.  I usually ride the platform pedals centered on my arch, though it's 
 also easy to move my foot back to the ball of my foot.  
  
 On my go-fast with MKS Keirin pedals and toe clips, I wear Chrome 
 sneakers.  Here the pedal is fixed to the ball of my foot.  The Chrome 
 sneakers have solid, lightweight shanks and I definitely get no foot strain 
 in those shoes.  Before the Chrome, I tried other tennis shoes on these 
 pedals and could work up some serious arch strain.  But again, solved 
 completely with Chrome sneakers.  
  
 I have fivetens for my kayak - haven't biked in them.  
  

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:17:16 AM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote:
  
 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?
  
  
  
 Thanks,
  
 John

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RE: [RBW] best tires for fendered rambouillet

Bo:

I've got two NIP pairs of Challenge tires that might be perfect for you: (1) a 
NIP pair of Challenge Eroica tires -- nominal 30mm, a little less in practice, 
according to Jan -- that are the big brother of the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix 
that was the fastest rolling tire in one of Jan's tests a while ago.  (2)  Also 
have a NIP set of the Parigi-Roubaix themselves,  nominal 27mm and actual about 
28mm, depending on the rim.  I suspect that one of these would be perfect, if 
Steve P is right that the Rom was designed for ~28mm tires.  I sold Patrick 
Moore a pair of the Parigi-Roubaixs a year or two ago, and he ran them on his 
Ram, and liked them a lot, I'm pretty sure.  Extremely nice tires.  Contact me 
off list if you're interested.

Tom   

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Subject: [RBW] best tires for fendered rambouillet

i have gotten noise and rubbing with both vo metal and sks fenders and jack 
brown tires on my 54 Rambouillet.

i will try different tires with the sks fenders for the winter, and pull the 
fenders in the spring and remount the jb s.

What are good winter tires
for this set up?
Ruffy Tuffys or Rolly Polys
come to mind.

Are the RT or RP s noticeably better than the Panaracer Tourguard or PTs or 
whatever they are called of late?

Any other favorites?

thanks
bo
in Bellingham 

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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread David Spranger

Teva Cranks for me. 

David
Charlotte, NC

On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17:16 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John


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Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Anne Paulson

I love my Fivetens. They're very sticky-- Fiveten started out making
climbing shoes, where grippiness is vital. Plus, they're stiff enough
for biking, but bendy enough for the hike-a-biking that I end up doing
quite a bit of.

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 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes.
 Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Deacon Patrick

True, Eric, but none of what you say changes the fact that cushioned, 
supportive shoes weaken the feet. That is proven fact. Science, unlike the 
market, is not consensus based. The debate (not in the market, but in the 
actual science) is how to best help people strengthen their feet and 
transition into less shoe. The reality is shoes, like so many other things, 
are tools, and too much tool is as big a problem as too little. Each person 
has to decide what the right amount is for them. But to do so in ignorance 
of the reality that more cushion and support always weakens the feet is to 
make that choice in ignorance.

With abandon,
Patrick
 
On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:41:46 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 Ah, the great shoe debate. Runners have it too, and the pendulum over 
 there is currently swinging away from “minimalist” shoes and back to heavy 
 padding:


 http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article3517617.html
  

 P.S. My feet are smart. They are poets. Yes, Longfellows ;-)

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 On Nov 17, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com 
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 The underlying issue here is cushioned and/or supportive shoes weaken our 
 feet and make them dumber.




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[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Bruce Curry

I have 33.3 green Jack Browns with 45 Velo orange stainless fenders on my 64 
ram. Very tight and took a lot of wrestling plus a hacksaw to the darima bolt 
but works. The new 2 clamp vo's rattle much less than the older single clamp 
design. If I had a do-over I would try the 50mm Berthouds. Bruce

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Eric Norris

I’m sorry, but I didn’t put forth anything other than a link to an article that 
I recently read in the local paper, and my observation that there is an ongoing 
debate among runners about the right type of shoe.

I’m not a podiatrist … I don’t even play one on TV.

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 On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
 
 True, Eric, but none of what you say changes the fact that cushioned, 
 supportive shoes weaken the feet. That is proven fact. Science, unlike the 
 market, is not consensus based. The debate (not in the market, but in the 
 actual science) is how to best help people strengthen their feet and 
 transition into less shoe. The reality is shoes, like so many other things, 
 are tools, and too much tool is as big a problem as too little. Each person 
 has to decide what the right amount is for them. But to do so in ignorance of 
 the reality that more cushion and support always weakens the feet is to make 
 that choice in ignorance.
 
 With abandon,
 Patrick
  
 On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:41:46 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
 Ah, the great shoe debate. Runners have it too, and the pendulum over there 
 is currently swinging away from “minimalist” shoes and back to heavy padding:
 
 http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article3517617.html
  
 http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article3517617.html
  
 
 P.S. My feet are smart. They are poets. Yes, Longfellows ;-)
 
 —Eric N
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 wrote:
 
 The underlying issue here is cushioned and/or supportive shoes weaken our 
 feet and make them dumber.
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Doug Williams

I don't wear special biking shoes I just use whatever I am wearing. That 
said, I have worn my Keen Newport H20 sandals for long (50 mile plus) rides 
with no issues whatsoever. For; that matter, my Birkenstock's seem to also 
work well. Pick something with a wide toe pocket, you don't want to squeeze 
your feet on a long ride, and feet tend to swell with exercise.

Doug

On Monday, November 17, 2014 6:17:16 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John


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[RBW] Re: Bags and Racks for Sale

2014-11-17 Thread Tom M

Small bag sold.

On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:41:35 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote:

 Here are more accessible photos:



 On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:47:06 AM UTC-5, Tom M wrote:

 Sale pending on small saddle bag.
 --Tom

 On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:18:41 PM UTC-5, Tom M wrote:

 Nigel Smythe tweed front bag, good condition, with some wear on the 
 underside, $100 
 Mark's rack, used, $100
 Nigel Smythe canvas saddle bag; this was actually made the wrong size, 
 so Riv discounted these. Used, $25
 Velo Orange VO Constructeur Rear Rack, used, $65

 All prices include shipping CONUS. I'm in Alexandria, VA, and can meet 
 for local pickup.

 Photos available at: 

 Thanks for looking,
 Tom Milani



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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

My coworker trains (running) mostly with minimalist shoes or barefoot, and 
then uses support cush shoes for events.  He just did a 100-miler (!), 
finishing in just over 18 hours.  I suspect he and I are of different 
species.  

I still love old reliable Adidas Samba when I'm riding with platform pedals

On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:27:33 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 True, Eric, but none of what you say changes the fact that cushioned, 
 supportive shoes weaken the feet. That is proven fact. Science, unlike the 
 market, is not consensus based. The debate (not in the market, but in the 
 actual science) is how to best help people strengthen their feet and 
 transition into less shoe. The reality is shoes, like so many other things, 
 are tools, and too much tool is as big a problem as too little. Each person 
 has to decide what the right amount is for them. But to do so in ignorance 
 of the reality that more cushion and support always weakens the feet is to 
 make that choice in ignorance.

 With abandon,
 Patrick
  
 On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:41:46 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 Ah, the great shoe debate. Runners have it too, and the pendulum over 
 there is currently swinging away from “minimalist” shoes and back to heavy 
 padding:


 http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/healthy-choices/article3517617.html
  

 P.S. My feet are smart. They are poets. Yes, Longfellows ;-)

 —Eric N
 campyo...@me.com
 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org
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 The underlying issue here is cushioned and/or supportive shoes weaken our 
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Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

True story: FiveTen is located down the street from me. Unfortunately they 
don't have much of an outlet or such.


On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:26:34 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I love my Fivetens. They're very sticky-- Fiveten started out making 
 climbing shoes, where grippiness is vital. Plus, they're stiff enough 
 for biking, but bendy enough for the hike-a-biking that I end up doing 
 quite a bit of. 

 On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Surlyprof jmcc...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote: 
  I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
  either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I 
 highly 
  recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker 
 pedals? 
  
  Thanks, 
  John 
  
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Re: [RBW] best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

Really like offerings from Challenge. Had a bit of a hassle mounting them 
at first, but they have become some of my go-to tires.

On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:19:00 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:

 Bo: 

 I've got two NIP pairs of Challenge tires that might be perfect for you: 
 (1) a NIP pair of Challenge Eroica tires -- nominal 30mm, a little less in 
 practice, according to Jan -- that are the big brother of the Challenge 
 Parigi-Roubaix that was the fastest rolling tire in one of Jan's tests a 
 while ago.  (2)  Also have a NIP set of the Parigi-Roubaix themselves, 
  nominal 27mm and actual about 28mm, depending on the rim.  I suspect that 
 one of these would be perfect, if Steve P is right that the Rom was 
 designed for ~28mm tires.  I sold Patrick Moore a pair of the 
 Parigi-Roubaixs a year or two ago, and he ran them on his Ram, and liked 
 them a lot, I'm pretty sure.  Extremely nice tires.  Contact me off list if 
 you're interested. 

 Tom   

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 Subject: [RBW] best tires for fendered rambouillet 

 i have gotten noise and rubbing with both vo metal and sks fenders and 
 jack brown tires on my 54 Rambouillet. 

 i will try different tires with the sks fenders for the winter, and pull 
 the fenders in the spring and remount the jb s. 

 What are good winter tires 
 for this set up? 
 Ruffy Tuffys or Rolly Polys 
 come to mind. 

 Are the RT or RP s noticeably better than the Panaracer Tourguard or PTs 
 or whatever they are called of late? 

 Any other favorites? 

 thanks 
 bo 
 in Bellingham 

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[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread iamkeith

Two other considerations I haven't seen mentioned, that you might already 
be aware of:

-  Toe clip overlap is likely to be pretty severe, if you actually manage 
to fit fenders over anything bigger than a 28.  I have SKS fenders and 
Roughy Toughies on my 60cm Ram, but find that I need to snug the fender 
*very* close to the tire to be comfortable with it.  I actually thought 
that the 54cm used 26 wheels, but evidently not.   So, with a presumably 
shorter top tube than mine,  it seems like yours would be worse.  
And adjusting for 33s would just compound the issue.  Maybe I'm more 
sensitive to it than others, though.

-  Your Winter conditions are obviously much different than mine (I'm 
already buried in snow and ice, and will be for the next 6 months), so I 
don't know what you need in a tread.  I'll say though that, while they're 
great for asphalt, I'd NEVER consider a Rolly Polly/Roughy Toughy/Jack 
Brown tread pattern to be a winter tire.   After a few good rides, the 
little waffle pattern pretty much turns into a slick.

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:31:24 PM UTC-7, bo richardson wrote:

 i have gotten noise and rubbing with both 
 vo metal and sks fenders and 
 jack brown tires on my 54 Rambouillet.

 i will try different tires with the sks fenders
 for the winter, and pull the fenders 
 in the spring and remount the jb s.

 What are good winter tires
 for this set up?
 Ruffy Tuffys or Rolly Polys
 come to mind.

 Are the RT or RP s noticeably better than
 the Panaracer Tourguard or PTs
 or whatever they are called of late?

 Any other favorites?

 thanks
 bo
 in Bellingham 



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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Neil

I'm a huge fan of plain ol' running shoes with the Thin Gripsters. Terrific 
grip, let my feet breath, and never give it a second thought. Asics GT-2000 
are my faves, but that's just me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

the portland kids have a few opinions about footwear

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 I'm a huge fan of plain ol' running shoes with the Thin Gripsters.
 Terrific grip, let my feet breath, and never give it a second thought.
 Asics GT-2000 are my faves, but that's just me.

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Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

Actually I think the Portland Kids have only one opinion and it's chukka.
Good to hear other opinions and options exist though.  :)

Aaron only a little embarrassed to admit I ride in chukkas Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Dan A

I use Merrell Moab Ventilator shoes with VP vice pedals and the combo works 
well for me. 

Dan Abelson 

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Re: [RBW] Oregon Outback Rollcall

2014-11-17 Thread franklyn

I thought seriously about doing it in 2015, but I absolutely have to be at 
work on the start date, so I have to miss it again this year.

Though i could do it by myself, but joining the group is a big part of the 
fun.

Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:27:44 PM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:

 I'm starting to think serious about it as well.  Probably will take 4-5 
 days, too. 

 Btw, thanks Mike for the info/opinions about Hetres on the OO last time.  
 That's useful.  

 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR

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 I'm hoping to be there.  Probably take 4-5 days.  I really want to go at 
 a different time from the dog-n-pony show if possible.  

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Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-17 Thread Patrick Moore

Tire savers are meant to be positioned a mm or 2 above the tire. This can
be done even with the typical out-of-round of most tires.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I don't use tire wipers
 http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_wipers_700.html any longer, since I
 just don't have enough flats to warrant the noise and dust they put on the
 bike. When I raced on 21.5 mm tubulars, I had lots of flats until I started
 using tire wipers. Thereafter, only a single flat in three years of racing
 – the tire wiper had become dislodged and no longer rubbed the surface of
 the tire...

 Jan Heine
 Compass Bicycles Ltd.
 www.compasscycle.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

 On Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:47:55 PM UTC-8, AaronY wrote:

 Jan,

 Do you still use tire sweeper contraptions?

 Thanks,
 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR

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 I agree with you, with one caveat: Width and tire pressure make a huge
 difference. If you are comparing two 32 mm tires, the supple, light one
 will get more flats. But if you are comparing a puncture-resistant 32 mm
 tire with a supple, light 42 mm tire, the 42 mm tire probably will get
 fewer flats.

 For me, the key to riding supple tires with almost zero flats has been
 wide tires, which I run at 38-45 psi.

 Jan Heine
 Compass Bicycles Ltd.
 www.compasscycle.com

 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

 On Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:28:17 AM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:

 The simple physics is that light, supple tires with thin rubber are
 going to be punctured more easily than tires with thicker rubber, heavier
 walls, puncture strips, etc.

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Re: [RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Patrick Moore

Also, 35 mm (ie, too narrow) SKS's fit fine over 30 mm (actual) Parigi
Roubaix. Wider fenders would allow more clearance.

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 35 mm (labeled) Kojaks. 58 cm Ram.

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 What's the widest a RamBlouiet will fit without fenders?

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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

2014-11-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

I agree with Tim.  It's just as presumptuous to expect unracers to be 
into cyclocross as it is to expect them to be into randonneuring, or 
extended loaded touring, or even S24Os.  It's a harmless presumption, but 
it's a presumption.  If there's one thing that unracers seem to have in 
common is they like what they like, not what other people tell them to like 
or expect them to like.  Maybe some of them drink the Riv koolaid and buy 
whatever Riv offers, but even that is a choice that some do and others 
don't do.  





  



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[RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

2014-11-17 Thread David Banzer

Aaron,
I don't have any to sell, but do have a suggestion if you can't track any down 
in time. 
I'd suggest using the Wald 867 as a placeholder. 
The grip section is short, but a couple wine corks in the ends helped me and 
allowed cork grips to be used without trimming them down, with just brake 
levers. Thumb shifters might fit if run at an angle. 
David
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Re: [RBW] WTB: BOSCO BULLMOOOOSE!

Thanks, David.  I'll look into it.

Thanks,
Aaron

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 Aaron,
 I don't have any to sell, but do have a suggestion if you can't track any
 down in time.
 I'd suggest using the Wald 867 as a placeholder.
 The grip section is short, but a couple wine corks in the ends helped me
 and allowed cork grips to be used without trimming them down, with just
 brake levers. Thumb shifters might fit if run at an angle.
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RE: [RBW] WTB Medium Sackville Shopsack Bag in Olive

Kendall:

I checked, and the one I have is a Large, not a Medium.  You’re welcome to it 
at the same price, or I’ll refund your PayPal payment.  Sorry!

Tom

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Great bag! Looking for another olive one now. Thank you.

On Wednesday, November 5, 2014 5:22:02 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
I have an Olive Medium Shopsack, like new. $40 shipped?

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wrote:
That would be exellent. Thank you.

On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 7:52:32 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:
I think I have one; will check tonight.

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... my wifes Betty is almost done and Riv is out of stock.
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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Marc Irwin

You might look at Chrome shoes.  They make several models without cleats 
for biking.  I have two pair, they wear like iron.

Marc


On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17:16 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John


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[RBW] FS: Saddles, seatposts and tires

Folks:

Trying hard to avoid selling my Atlantis, so I'm digging deep into the parts 
bin for stuff I'm not going to use anytime soon.  Here's the saddle, seatpost 
and tires installment; I tried to price these to move, but if you feel the 
price is too high, make an offer.  Please reply off-list.

SADDLES:


Brooks Blue B-17, silver rivets, black rails, NIB, $100 shipped.



Brooks Honey B-17 Special, copper hammered rivets, silver rails, used but 
excellent condition, $100 shipped.



Brooks Honey B-17 Special, copper hammered rivets, copper rails, NOS (no box), 
$125 shipped.



Brooks Honey B-17 Special, copper hammered rivets, black rails, mounted and 
ridden once, looks new, $115 shipped.



Brooks Champion Flyer Select, copper hammered rivets, black rails and springs, 
NIB, $160 shipped.



Brooks Pre-Aged B-67 Special, black rails and springs, NOS (no box), $100 
shipped.



Selle An-Atomica white, copper rivets, black rails, NOS, no box, $110 shipped.



Selle An-Atomica black, copper rivets, black rails, NOS, no box, $110 shipped.



Avocet Touring II, black silver rails, some scratching off of the finish at one 
of the back corners but fully functional, some folks LOVE these saddles, $25 
shipped.



SEATPOSTS:



Thompson Elite seatpost, Silver, 27.2 mm, NIB, $60 shipped.



Paul Tall and Handsome seatpost, 27.2 mm, silver high polish, NIB, $70 shipped.



Salsa Shaft seatpost, black, 27.2 mm, NIP, $35 shipped.



TIRES (all listed prices for the pair):



Pair, 700C  x 42mm Schwalbe Marathon Duremes, black with reflective strip, very 
high end touring tire, NIB, $85 shipped.



Pair, 700C x 47mm Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard, black with reflective strip, 
slightly used, look almost new, $40 shipped.



Pair, 650B x 44mm Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard, black with reflective strip, 
NIB, $50 shipped.



Pair, 700C x 38mm Schwalbe Little Big Ben, brown with reflective strip, new, 
$40 shipped.



Pair, 700C x 30mm (a little wider mounted) Challenge Eroica, very high end 
(tubular-like performance) clincher, black with skinwall, NIP, $100 shipped.



Pair, 700C x 27mm (a little wider mounted) Challenge Eroica, very high end 
(tubular-like performance) clincher, black with skinwall,  NIP, $100 shipped.



Pair, 700c x 33mm Jack Brown Greens, used but checkerboard tread patterns till 
visible, lots of life, tubes included, $55 shipped.



Pair, 650B x 38mm Panaracer Col de la Vie, black with skinwalls, used but lots 
of life left, $25 shipped.



Thanks,

Tom


















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[RBW] WTB: Chromo Bosco - 58cm

I'm still looking for the big daddy Bull Moose Bosco, but if someone has a
chromo-bosco that is 58cm wide I'd be interested in that as well.

Thanks,
Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Chromo Bosco - 58cm

Make that 55cm.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still looking for the big daddy Bull Moose Bosco, but if someone has a
 chromo-bosco that is 58cm wide I'd be interested in that as well.

 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Biking with the future wifey.

2014-11-17 Thread Bill M.

You think weddings are expensive?  Try divorce!  

No, I really don't recommend that YOU try divorce, just take my word for 
it.  It's expensive.  Better to get it right the first time.

Mazeltov!

Bill
Much happier the second time around in Stockton, CA


On Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:43:02 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:


 Manny Weddings are expensive Acosta


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[RBW] FS: Saddles, seatposts and tires

2014-11-17 Thread justinaugust

I'll take the Paul seat post. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

Yes, I appreciate all the input and my answer to the question of how 
fast? would be that speed isn't really my concern. My main goal is to push 
the Hillborne to the limits of what it is capable of and see how it fares, 
prior to dropping $2000+ on a new bike when 95% of what I'd want to do can 
be done with the Sam. The tire recommendations sound good, but I am 
wondering what the absolute FAT MAX limit of my 2012 Waterford-built 64cm 
Sam might be...

From what I've heard, it's possible that a 50mm can fit without fenders. If 
this is the case, I'm wondering if the Schwalbe 'Thunder Burt' would be a 
viable candidate, as a lot of folks rave about it in other forum posts I've 
read on O.O. Going with this as a tubeless tire on the Sam would seem like 
the best of all possible worlds, if the clearances are indeed do-able. 

The Surly Ogre looks like a complete beast of a bike, and my 96cm PBH 
having self is very pleased that they offer it in XXL. If I were to go for 
a fat-ish bike, I think that would be the one. However, it is just about 
impossible at this point in time for me to add a steed to the stable (see: 
$$$). 

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 6:35:22 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Mike,

 The question that comes to my mind regarding the OO is how do you want to 
 ride it? 

 Fast like Jan Heine or taking your time and camping along the way? If you 
 plan on riding in like under 30 hours than a 42 mm tire like the Grand Bois 
 Hetre's would be sufficient with next to no load (as Aaron mentioned).

 http://velodirt.com/the-oregon-outback-2014-in-aggregate/

 If your not a speed demon and enjoy the pleasure of experiencing your 
 natural surroundings and camping along the way than again the Hillborne 
 should suffice with either the BG rocking roads in 700c and soon in 
 650b/43mm or the Soma Cazadero also in 700c  650b.

 Weight wise I know the Hillborne can carry a sufficient load so I see no 
 need for a more dedicated MTB hardtail with front supension for the OO. The 
 Jamis Dragon would also be excellent on the OO but not mandatory.  If you 
 plan on riding aggressive downhill single track than the Dragon will 
 outshine the Sam.

 I agree that two bikes are more versatile (as Eric mentioned ). I'm an 
 advocate for n+1.  Perhaps a fat tire bike would be worth acquiring with 
 studded tires in the winter and those fat tires can come in handy in Sandy 
  muddy conditions that the Sam might not excel.

 Anyway my .02.

 -Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA 


 On Sunday, November 16, 2014 2:33:17 PM UTC-8, Mike S wrote:
  So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was 
 considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the 
 stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now for 
 $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice wheels 
 with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of 
 all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter, 
 as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just studded 
 tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels 
 with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light 
 singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually 
 do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of 
 wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore 
 different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington). 
  
  So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a 
 second, cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to 
 maximize the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about 
 Jan Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the 
 Porsche 911 of a gravel-orientated ride, and I want to stick with that 
 plan. Also, what are some ideas about the best tire model to do this kind 
 of riding? I think that 50-54mm with a moderately aggressive tread would be 
 perfect, but I'm wondering if there is something better than the Smart Sam?



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[RBW] struggling with my B-17's

2014-11-17 Thread Don Compton

I have been having the usual saddle problems with my B-17's. After longterm 
breakin, the hump makes long rides impossible for me.
I finally found a solution, the Selle Anatomica. It just works for me. At 2 
weeks from 63yo, I just can't stand any saddle discomfort anymore. The 
Anatomica has solved the problem. I sold all my Brooks and will never look 
back.
Don Compton

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[RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread Surlyprof

Thanks for all the feedback.  I, too, usually wear whatever gets me past a 
No Shirt, No Shoes, No Dice policy when riding around town.  However, my 
wildly high arches seem to demand some support during the longer rides. 
 Insoles help but a couple pairs of the Chrome shoes looked interesting and 
it would be nice to support a local company.  I'll check them out next time 
I'm up in the city.  Bummer that they, like so many companies, love 
displaying their logo so prominently.  I guess that's why they invented 
Sharpies!

Thanks again everyone.
John

On Monday, November 17, 2014 6:17:16 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:

 I've been using sneakers by Puma or Clarks when riding my Hillborne with 
 either a set of MKS Grip Kings or VP Thin Gripster pedals (which I highly 
 recommend!).  My feet sometimes ache after a long ride in squishy shoes. 
  Has anyone found a stiffer soled shoe that they like with sneaker pedals?

 Thanks,
 John


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[RBW] Re: best tires for fendered rambouillet

2014-11-17 Thread Arthur Lewy

Green Ramb, SKS fenders, 45mm

700x32 Paselas (actual width 31mm) and 700x32 Marathon Supremes (actual width 
30mm) each provide reasonable clearance.

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[RBW] Re: Oregon Outback Rollcall

2014-11-17 Thread Old Oly

It's on my list for next season.  I'm trying to recruit a couple of buddies 
but no luck so far.  I'd most likely take Amtrak from Olympia to K-Falls. 
 If time and energy permit I'd like to continue north via USFS roads on the 
shoulder of Adams and tie into Hiway 12 near Randle/Packwood.  Timing would 
be a challenge, the route in Oregon gets hot early and the snow in WA 
doesn't always clear until later.  All depends on lots of factors.  Oregon 
Outback is the priority for sure.  I can always do the WA section later in 
the summer.
Bill Liechty

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 7:58:39 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Noticing the messages about the Oregon Outback, I thought we could 
 have a rollcall of who was planning to do it next spring, and how many 
 days you're expecting to take. 

 I'm planning to give it a try. Six days; I'm not racing. 

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 It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 


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[RBW] struggling with my B-17's

2014-11-17 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch

I'm glad you found a solution that works for you, Don. Saddle pain ruins the 
ride, that's for sure. What model Anatomical are you using?

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Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread BSWP

With size 15 feet, choices are kinda limited. I have bespoke hiking boots 
and walking shoes (cobbler Dan Asay out of Bishop, CA), but for bicycling 
on platform shoes (now with velcro retention straps) I have found best 
results with Mizuno shot-putting shoes. Flat treadless soles, minimal rise 
around ankles, and combo lace-up and velcro closure. I found 'em on Amazon, 
would/will buy again. Just the right amount of stiffness that I can ride 
80+ miles a day.

- Andrew, Berkeley, LongLow + QuickBeam

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[RBW] Re: Monday Video

2014-11-17 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch

That has been a part of my daily commute since the early 90's,  I've never 
seen another Riv.

Matt

On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:00:39 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:

 Took Mr. Riv Road out for a ride on the American River Parkway yesterday, 
 and shot this video:

 http://youtu.be/KjWcabsDn_4 

 Enjoy!

 —Eric N
 campyo...@me.com javascript:
 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org
 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @campyonlyguy 



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Re: [RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

I swear by the New Balance Minimus 20V3. They are super lightweight,
breathable, comfortable and even stylish enough. The only issue is the
durability can be a bit of an issue with some pairs, as the sole likes to
separate from the toe area. New Balance has replaced an early-deteriorating
pair for me in the past free of charge.

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=19937206camp=CSE:GooglePLA:19937206:15421540:MENS%20ATHLETIC%20FOOTWEARCAGPSPN=plaCAWELAID=12013860155131catargetid=12013861603960cadevice=c

On Monday, November 17, 2014 8:16:42 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:

With size 15 feet, choices are kinda limited. I have bespoke hiking boots
and walking shoes (cobbler Dan Asay out of Bishop, CA), but for bicycling
on platform shoes (now with velcro retention straps) I have found best
results with Mizuno shot-putting shoes. Flat treadless soles, minimal rise
around ankles, and combo lace-up and velcro closure. I found 'em on Amazon,
would/will buy again. Just the right amount of stiffness that I can ride
80+ miles a day.

- Andrew, Berkeley, LongLow + QuickBeam

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch

+1 on the Samba's.  Nike makes a decent indoor soccer shoe also and that's 
what I'm currently using.  I have to confess that Red Wing work boots have 
been all time favorite comfort shoe. But I've never considered them for 
cycling.  I might have to look into Chris Chen's Chukka's recommendation.

On Monday, November 17, 2014 10:24:21 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:



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[RBW] Re: struggling with my B-17's

2014-11-17 Thread Don Compton

I am using an old Titanio X on my Hampsten  with a 72deg sta. I ordered 
their new X' saddle for my Rex. I bought the Titanio X a few years ago and 
just didn't feel right on it. But as we age , things change. I am able to 
adjust my saddle back up where it should be and have NO discomfort in the 
drops or anytime during my rides. And, because I can raise my saddle back 
up where it should be, I am rediscovering some lost power. A win-win.

On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:55:50 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:

 I'm glad you found a solution that works for you, Don. Saddle pain ruins 
 the ride, that's for sure. What model Anatomical are you using?

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[RBW] Shoe Recommendations for VP Thin Gripsters (or Grip Kings)

2014-11-17 Thread stonehog

Stiff sole: FiveTen Spitfire (heavy) or Ascent (light). Favorite for 
running/walking/biking with a minimalist bent are Evolve Cruzers (thx Amit!). I 
have 3 pairs - I like em that much. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle WA

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Re: [RBW] Cyclocross and a little contest

2014-11-17 Thread Jan Heine

I am sorry if my post offended some people, or if it sounded like I 
suggested that you _should_ like cyclocross _racing_. My intention simply 
was only to point out that cyclocross is out there for those who feel so 
inclined, but not to suggest that you should like it (or anything else, at 
that matter.) 

*Bicycle Quarterly*'s editorial policy always has been to provide the 
facts, but leave the judgment up to you. That is why we don't crown bikes 
of the year or rides of the year – we figure that everybody's 
preferences are different. So we provide the facts (for example, how a bike 
handles, how it performs, how well it's put together), and you can form 
your own opinion on whether you'd like to own one or not.

I am sorry if my post was unclear in that regard.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

Patrick Moore, evading the ever-present, quasi-adverb so, in ABQ, NM

You salty dog!

On Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:13:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Can the Sam Hill take a 50 mm tire? Mine was (IIRC) a 2010 model, and I 
 doubt it would fit a tire so wide. 

 *IF* it takes such a width, my own, personal choice would be the Sam 
 Hill. Though I disliked aspects of mine (sold it before I'd owned it 12 
 months because it was doggy-ish as a road bike), I think I'd keep one that 
 could take 55 mm tires; indeed, I think I'd sell my Fargo to purchase a Sam 
 Hill with 55 mm tires, even if the clearances around those 55s were 
 minimal. An off road Sam Hill would be wonderful.

 As for moderately aggressive tires in the 50 mm or so width: The Furious 
 Fred is wonderfully light (*360 grams on a Pelouze mail scale for the 
 622X50*) and has enough tread to make a slight difference compared to 
 slicks on loose dirt. But it has absolutely no resistance to thorns. I 
 rectify this with Stan's, in a tubeless setup, and the combination is 
 wonderful in goathead land. The Big Apple is much heavier, but a nice 
 rolling tire withal considering (a) its bulk and (b) the effective puncture 
 belt; and it withstands goatheads wonderfully* without recourse to sealant. 
 (Caveat: I've used 559 and 622 60 mm Big Apples in the garden variety wire 
 bead model and in the Liteskin model, no longer made.)

 * Withstands, vi, to wit: it won't keep a goathead thorn from 
 penetrating after several pavement rotations; but I've rolled out from dirt 
 excursions with literally scores of goatheads stuck to the tread, flicked 
 them off, and ridden home without any air loss. IOW, the thorn has to work 
 hard to get through the BA's puncture belt. *And*, the tire rolls 
 surprisingly well compared to other belted tires, which are pure shite in 
 that regard.

 Patrick Moore, evading the ever-present, quasi-adverb so, in ABQ, NM

 On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Mike S mikesh...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 So I currently have my Sam Hillborne as my only bike, though I was 
 considering adding a front suspension/disc-brake mountain bike to the 
 stable. There's a deal for a Jamis 650B dragon pro on the interwebs now for 
 $1400, but I'm thinking I could rather add a second set of very nice wheels 
 with fatter tires instead. My main reason to do this is so that first of 
 all, I can have a set of slicks and a set of studded tires in the winter, 
 as I live in a very icy/snowy area and am bummed out by having just studded 
 tank tires to ride in winter. Beyond that, I want to have a set of wheels 
 with a 55mm-ish tire that can handle most gravel/firetrail/light 
 singletrack in a ride like the Oregon Outback, as I am hoping to actually 
 do that ride this summer. It would also just be nice to have this set of 
 wheels that can handle more aggressive off-road riding to go explore 
 different areas where I'm at (Eastern Washington). 

 So, I guess the question I pose to the group is: better to have a second, 
 cheap-ish mountain bike or a second set of really nice wheels to maximize 
 the All-Rounderness of a Hillborne? I've been thinking also about Jan 
 Heine's opinion that a rigid all-road bike with fat tires is the Porsche 
 911 of a gravel-orientated ride, and I want to stick with that plan. Also, 
 what are some ideas about the best tire model to do this kind of riding? I 
 think that 50-54mm with a moderately aggressive tread would be perfect, but 
 I'm wondering if there is something better than the Smart Sam? 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike Schiller

I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires.  Certainly 
45's.  BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.

As far as another bike... there is the used market.  I've seen used Fargos 
in the price range of that Jamis.

~mike


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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are doomed. 
I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the 622-47 
Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out Ogre is 
in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad school), 
but this might be a good way to go for pushing the ruggedness limit on a 
Sam. 

On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:40:07 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires.  Certainly 
 45's.  BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.

 As far as another bike... there is the used market.  I've seen used Fargos 
 in the price range of that Jamis.

 ~mike




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[RBW] Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

2014-11-17 Thread Philip Williamson

It sounds like your decision has been made. I'd probably make the same choice, 
and ride my Quickbeam with 40mm knobbies. I think volume trumps knobs, though.
As far as groovy bikes in large sizes go, the Singular Gryphon is nice. Rigid, 
drop bar bike, fits 2.4 tires. The XL is big.

Philip
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

I also ponder if the 622-50 (listed) Schwalbe Almotion will fit a Sam. I 
know their tires are usually ~2mm narrower than the label in that size 
range, and a helpful fellow at BBH said that someone at RBW does run 50's 
on a Sam. 

Then again, as our fallen brother Lance A. is reputed to have said: it's 
not about the bike. 

On Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06:19 PM UTC-8, Mike S wrote:

 Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are 
 doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the 
 622-47 Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out 
 Ogre is in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad 
 school), but this might be a good way to go for pushing the ruggedness 
 limit on a Sam. 

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:40:07 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires.  Certainly 
 45's.  BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.

 As far as another bike... there is the used market.  I've seen used 
 Fargos in the price range of that Jamis.

 ~mike




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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

Wait, I don't understand why you don't just try a pair. Yours is the 650B
sam right?

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are
 doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the
 622-47 Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out
 Ogre is in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad
 school), but this might be a good way to go for pushing the ruggedness
 limit on a Sam.

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:40:07 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires.  Certainly
 45's.  BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.

 As far as another bike... there is the used market.  I've seen used
 Fargos in the price range of that Jamis.

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

Vee Rubber makes a 650B x 1.95 tire too. Cazadero is still my pick tho.

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike S mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also ponder if the 622-50 (listed) Schwalbe Almotion will fit a Sam. I
 know their tires are usually ~2mm narrower than the label in that size
 range, and a helpful fellow at BBH said that someone at RBW does run 50's
 on a Sam.

 Then again, as our fallen brother Lance A. is reputed to have said: it's
 not about the bike.

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06:19 PM UTC-8, Mike S wrote:

 Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are
 doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the
 622-47 Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out
 Ogre is in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad
 school), but this might be a good way to go for pushing the ruggedness
 limit on a Sam.

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:40:07 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires.  Certainly
 45's.  BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.

 As far as another bike... there is the used market.  I've seen used
 Fargos in the price range of that Jamis.

 ~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne, Oregon Outback, Off-roading and the ?: 2 bikes or 2 sets of wheels?

I'm on 700C wheels and they currently have studded tires entrenched for the 
duration. I also order my Schwalbe rubber from a German retailer, so it 
takes some commitment. The Cazaderos do sound great too, especially if I 
could keep my ultrawide Berthoud fenders on with them. 

On Monday, November 17, 2014 10:19:00 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Wait, I don't understand why you don't just try a pair. Yours is the 650B 
 sam right?

 On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Mike S mikesh...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are 
 doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the 
 622-47 Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out 
 Ogre is in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad 
 school), but this might be a good way to go for pushing the ruggedness 
 limit on a Sam. 

 On Monday, November 17, 2014 9:40:07 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires.  Certainly 
 45's.  BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.

 As far as another bike... there is the used market.  I've seen used 
 Fargos in the price range of that Jamis.

 ~mike


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