date:20150703



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/aaP7030002.jpg
Backing up my previous post, Miche cassette on a Shimano freehub asks for 
45Nm torque, which is as much as a bottom bracket - without it, spacing 
between cogs will not be correct


On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 9:10:57 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 is the cassette properly torqued?  




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[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

2015-07-03 Thread N. Llama

You could make a small change by choosing where the wide and narrow spacers 
are on the post between the CR720 post mount. Depends on the fork canti 
posts, but you could try to get the 720's at a slightly narrower stance. 
Not sure how much it will help with the 720's but I have had it make a 
noticeable difference on other cantis. Also you could try thinner brake 
pads (thinlines)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack ~ on a 700c Homer Hilsen?

2015-07-03 Thread Chris Chen

Solid beast. Probably absorbed some energy during a crash too.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/14973096168/

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Chris Chen (on this list) has:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9400323176/in/album-72157634881121054/

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/10973611226/in/album-72157641962216243/



 On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 9:48:03 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote:

 Anyone properly mate a Nitto Big Front rack on a 700c Homer?


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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

2015-07-03 Thread George Chalekian

K
You might be seeing this twice.
Saluki geometry chart is attached.
The measurements for the 54 cm frame are as follows:

BB Drop: 67 mm
TT Upslope: 1.5º
Rear Hub Spacing 132.5 mm
Standover: 78.6 mm (based on 650 x 38 tires)
ST Angle: 72º
HT Angle: 71º
Top Tube: 56 cm
Chain Stay 44.5 cm

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q35OiEj4d3M/VZRlnFcW2jI/Ggs/Sx8XcNjtwcE/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-07-01%2Bat%2B12.02.10%2BPM.png

On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:37:05 AM UTC-10, KLA wrote:

Hello,

Can you provide some measurements, TT for example, thanks! Kate

On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 10:14:19 AM UTC-4, George Chalekian wrote:

Mostly immaculate.
$2,500.

This was my daily commuter four times weekly, 21 miles round trip, for
four years.
Now my commute is 27 steps from the bed to my desk chair.
As a consequence the Saluki, which was a purpose-built as a Commuter /
Rando bike with racks and panniers, has been relegated to grocery status.
Not a dignified life for such a bike so I'm posting it here, and only
here, first.

So why not Rando or bicycle camp then?

Frankly, not much opportunity on the small island of Oahu.

I say mostly immaculate because there are a few dings in the paint.
Otherwise, the bicycle lived in the house or next to my desk at the
office and still has that original clear coat shine because except for
grocery duty it was never locked up our left outside.
And Grant knows his way away around parts, as you'll see below.
Everything works flawlessly.
This is one of the smoothest, easiest-riding, most comfortable bikes I've
ever been on.
Pics attached, many more available if you're interested.

The Specs:

*Frame Fork*
Lugged steel (of course) 54 cm, pewter with white detailing

*Drive Train*
You (potentially)
*Front Derailleur*
Shimano 105
*Rear Derailleur*
Shimano XT
*Cassette*
Shimano 9-speed 11-32t
*Crank*

Sugino triple 46/36/24t

*Components*

*Headset*

Chris King

*Stem*

Nitto

*Handlebar*

Velo Orange Rando (I will throw in a mustache bar which is great for
everything except headwinds)

*Shifters*

Shimano Bar End

*Brake Levers*

Shimano

*Brakes*

Shimano Cantis

*Seatpost*

Nitto

*Saddle*

Selle Anatomica Titanico

*Cables*

Really? Cables? Yes.

*Wheels*

*Front Hub*

Schmidt Nabendynamo

*Rear Hub*

Shimano Deore
*Wheels*
Hand Built by Rich Lesnik of Hands On Wheels
Rigida Sphinx 36 hole rims
*Tires*
Panaracer Col De La Vie Randonée 650 B (I'll throw in two brand new ones)

*Additional Goodies, Included*

Twin Schmidt E6 Halogens (and possibly an extra bulb which occasionally
appears in the panniers)

Nitto Front Rack

SKS Fenders (the rear one is damaged – thanks to an attacking shopping
cart -- but functional – I mean it's a mud / rain flap afterall)
Near Field Pedestrian Warning System (aka brass bell)

[RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

2015-07-03 Thread George Chalekian

D
That is the Nitto Campee model.
G

On Saturday, June 27, 2015 at 8:37:05 AM UTC-10, David Person wrote:

 Nice looking bike.  Can I ask, what model is the rear rack?  Not seen one 
 quite like that when surfing for Nitto racks.

 On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at 7:14:19 AM UTC-7, George Chalekian wrote:

 Mostly immaculate.
 $2,500.

 This was my daily commuter four times weekly, 21 miles round trip, for 
 four years.
 Now my commute is 27 steps from the bed to my desk chair.
 As a consequence the Saluki, which was a purpose-built as a Commuter / 
 Rando bike with racks and panniers, has been relegated to grocery status.
 Not a dignified life for such a bike so I'm posting it here, and only 
 here, first.

 So why not Rando or bicycle camp then?

 Frankly, not much opportunity on the small island of Oahu.

 I say mostly immaculate because there are a few dings in the paint.
 Otherwise, the bicycle lived in the house or next to my desk at the 
 office and still has that original clear coat shine because except for 
 grocery duty it was never locked up our left outside.
 And Grant knows his way away around parts, as you'll see below.
 Everything works flawlessly.
 This is one of the smoothest, easiest-riding, most comfortable bikes I've 
 ever been on.
 Pics attached, many more available if you're interested.

 The Specs:

 *Frame  Fork*
 Lugged steel (of course) 54 cm, pewter with white detailing

 *Drive Train*
 You (potentially)
 *Front Derailleur*
 Shimano 105 
 *Rear Derailleur*
 Shimano XT 
 *Cassette*
 Shimano 9-speed 11-32t
 *Crank*

 Sugino triple 46/36/24t


 *Components*

 *Headset*

 Chris King

 *Stem*

 Nitto

 *Handlebar*

 Velo Orange Rando (I will throw in a mustache bar which is great for 
 everything except headwinds)

 *Shifters*

 Shimano Bar End

 *Brake Levers*

 Shimano

 *Brakes*

 Shimano Cantis

 *Seatpost*

 Nitto

 *Saddle*

 Selle Anatomica Titanico

 *Cables*

 Really? Cables? Yes.


 *Wheels*

 *Front Hub*

 Schmidt Nabendynamo

 *Rear Hub*

 Shimano Deore
 *Wheels*
 Hand Built by Rich Lesnik of Hands On Wheels
 Rigida Sphinx 36 hole rims
 *Tires*
 Panaracer Col De La Vie Randonée 650 B (I'll throw in two brand new ones)

  
 *Additional Goodies, Included*

 Twin Schmidt E6 Halogens (and possibly an extra bulb which occasionally 
 appears in the panniers)

 Nitto Front Rack

 SKS Fenders (the rear one is damaged – thanks to an attacking shopping 
 cart -- but functional – I mean it's a mud / rain flap afterall)
 Near Field Pedestrian Warning System (aka brass bell)



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[RBW] found a Ram on CL

2015-07-03 Thread Don Funke

I found a 61cm Ram on CL. I have a 63 AHH. Is the ride really going to feel 
different? Interested in doing Brevets. The 63 is in the upper limits of 
fit for me. Is it worth the trade off of narrower tires for a bit more 
snappiness?

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Re: [RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in

is the cassette properly torqued?  

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 8:47:26 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

 Steve,everything in the drivetrain is (was before three brevets) brand 
 new. Cables, housing, cassette, chain, chain rings. Only the derailer and 
 shifters were not new. The problem still persisted. I took it to a good LBS 
 for a tune up and had them check for a bent hanger. Adjusting the cable 
 tension with the barrel adjuster only moves the problem from the three 
 lowest gears to the middle gears. Lungimsam, the D rings on the Silvers are 
 tight and I used beeswax. 

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[RBW] Re: I can't get the shifting dialed in

my buddy also had a mis-shift because his RD cable housing was too short

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 9:50:41 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:

 Brand new derailleur cables will need to stretch. I always retune mine 
 after a month of riding. Maybe there is something with the RD cable clamp, 
 where it's not clamping properly and letting your cable slip? Happened on 
 my XT RD and got a new cable clamp bolt thingy from my LBS



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Re: [RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?

2015-07-03 Thread Chris Chen

I've seen three break, but whether the fault lies with Nitto or the user is
up in the air.

I've broken an R-14 rack, but it was overloaded and I was running through
some really nasty stuff.

I've never seen a Mark's rack break. I've seen two of 32-F break where it
goes through the bridge of the work.

btw safety tethers are always a good idea on stuff that's moving :)

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 No offense, but I think the title of this thread is misleading - I've
 never heard of a Nitto rack failure.


 On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 7:34:44 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:



Just disregard the rating  . . . . as noted  . . . . if anything it
 can be more stable with the same strength with  5 mount points .


 As expected, my rack has been perfect.  The bolts have are the non
 loosening type, with nylon in them .  The stays can be cold set bent as
 needed also.



 On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 6:31:27 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 Maybe spot welding the tang for and aft of the bolts would work, once
 you got it centered where you need it on your bike.

 I was also recommended to use a strap by an RBW employee. That's not
 confidence building.

 What puzzles me is the M18 is rated at a 17lb load the Marks is only 4
 lbs. But they look like the same rack structurally, except the Marks has
 the tab in the front and an extra set of eyelets.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?

2015-07-03 Thread Bruce Herbitter

Picture saved :)

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:12 AM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9P9SoZ29tQ4/VZaluvJCLPI/AHY/V9kfkl53xaA/s1600/26ers.jpg
Here's an old picture of my 60 AR and wife's 50 Ram, together, both with
26 wheels, just for kicks.

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Re: [RBW] Community

2015-07-03 Thread Chris Chen

Hear hear!

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hi friends, Just a note to again say how much this group means to me.  I
 think of the care and concern with which regard each other, the
 helpfulness, the kind tone, the generosity given online and off—it is
 really something special.  Parts broken or lost?  Someone might send you
 one.  Bike stolen?  Alerts go out.  Recovering from surgery?  Empathy,
 advice, and well wishes offered.  Flumoxed by a technical problem?  Many
 solutions expounded upon (some even might work!)  Need advice about a
 route?  Someone's ridden it.  Recovered your stolen bike? Cheers erupt. A
 member of our own passes?  Hearts break.  Someone forgets and snarks a tiny
 bit?  We all forgive and admit it's just the dregs of winter.  Wondering if
 anyone's posted in the past hour?  One of the Patricks to the rescue! Buy a
 bag from a lister?  They might just give it to you as a kindness for a long
 forgotten post.

 Truly, this community is special and I treasure these relationships.

 with love, Riv Chica Warrior

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Re: [RBW] What are these handlebars on Hunq (BLUG CONTENT!)

2015-07-03 Thread Braxton Colagross

It's Mike Williams' bicycle. He's active on the list and may reply here.
Pretty sure his Hinq is using the same Jitensha Studios manufactured by
Nitto that he has on his Quickbeam. Rich did build the wheels.

On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 4:29:58 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:

That *has *to be Rich's bike (the Riv wheel builder). He's been riding
saddles that way for decades, and rides damn far on them. Btw, never try
chasing Rich down Mt. Diablo. He's insanely, maniacally fast, and does it
with a serene look on his face ;)

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote:

I've never understood saddles set like that.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Eric ericwo...@gmail.com wrote:

Curious to know what are these handlebars featured on this Hunq...

http://40.media.tumblr.com/3b7bf1968c8406b81532ac6fee2a6dd4/tumblr_npcbr5KRsX1qe3ngpo2_r1_1280.jpg

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[RBW] Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area

2015-07-03 Thread Call Me Jay

Is it worth hauling one of Rivs 14 hours to ride out there?  I'm visiting 
my in-laws.  Any good rides to recommend on pavement or dirt roads? 

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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

patrick, 
not as much dirt as i would've liked, but about as much as i could find 
without getting too lost one of the reasons the book was not that 
helpful. i had a few back road/trail suggestions that were great. i 
experimented with finding some of my own...which had a lesser percentage of 
greatness.  there was also a hell of a lot of time on highway 1.  

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[RBW] Re: Rewiring a battery powered taillight for use with a generator hub?

2015-07-03 Thread Kainalu

Standlight function is key, and while my soldering skills are passable, my 
love of schematics/acquiring not tiny enough electronics add-ons, is nil. 
Thanks for the advice all, new toplight is on the way, battery powered is 
moving to the trailer.
Much Obliged
-Kai


On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 5:36:36 AM UTC-4, Kainalu wrote:

 Hi folks,
 Wondering if anyone has some insights as to how, or whether or not I 
 should even be considering, a rewiring of my battery powered BM Toplight 
 for use with my newish to me generator hub. 
 Is it as simple as switching out the LEDs and running wires off the 
 contacts? Do I even need to swap the LEDs? Am I being too trusting of my 
 generator system by not having a battery powered backup light? Would it be 
 possible to add LEDs (if different LEDs are necessary) to the Toplight that 
 can run off of the hub and keep the guts of the battery powered light 
 intact as an all in one backup?
 Thanks
 -Kai
 Brooklyn, NY


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[RBW] Re: BoyzontheHoods Summer Skool Sessions #2 – Peninsula MTBrevet

2015-07-03 Thread Kellie

Anyone have a GPS route?

On Sunday, June 28, 2015 at 8:10:43 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Big group. 20+? All good variety of bikes

 These guys always plan the best route. 

 Pretty much single track for 50% of the ride. Or at least it felt that way

 3 flats 
 1 mechanic- - Broken Freewheel? How do you do that?
 1 injured - Elbow scrappage. 

 Jenny writes better.

 http://www.plattyjo.com/boyz-on-the-hoods-summer-skool-sessions-2-peninsula-mtbrevet/

 Pictures proved that we all got rad.
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsketL6c2


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[RBW] Toyo Frame

2015-07-03 Thread Wayne Naha



I follow Toy Frame on FB, and today they posted this great picture:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YdTuqq4datA/VZasqG4qcmI/Cw4/DJf53OCw_fI/s1600/toyoHeadtube.jpg

I was really impressed with the workmanship.  

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[RBW] Re: found a Ram on CL

I suspect - especially with the narrower tires - that it will feel 
smaller/lighter/snappier to you. Buy it right now!

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 8:16:38 AM UTC-7, Don Funke wrote:

 I found a 61cm Ram on CL. I have a 63 AHH. Is the ride really going to 
 feel different? Interested in doing Brevets. The 63 is in the upper limits 
 of fit for me. Is it worth the trade off of narrower tires for a bit more 
 snappiness?


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[RBW] Re: Altus rear derailer = upgrade from DeerHead

2015-07-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB

You inspire me...

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[RBW] Re: found a Ram on CL

2015-07-03 Thread bo richardson

there is a 62ram in olympia. 1400
it is on the seattle CL
i love my rambouillet
i didnt love my AHH, but i think it was the 
650b wheels

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[RBW] Re: Toyo Frame

2015-07-03 Thread Wayne Naha

I thought it was really interesting because it used two types of joining: 
the lug and the fillet braze.  I have never seen that before.

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 Gosh that's beautiful!

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Re: [RBW] on spreading the joy of Rivs...

2015-07-03 Thread cyclotourist

As long as you get a sales commision for it! :-)

On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I seem to recall a post on this list that said the best way to sell (or
 advertise) Riv was to let someone ride your Riv.

 Well, I was riding with a friend who hadn't biked in a year, and she was
 getting faint on her Jamis commuter so we stopped and then got some coffee.
 On the way back, she comments about how pretty my QB is, and since she's
 slightly taller than me, I figure she can ride my bike without having me
 readjust the saddle size.

 I nearly didn't get my QB back. :) She was surprised by how stable the QB
 was (it was a bit lighter and had skinnier tires than hers) and rode it
 again and again and just one more time around the parking lot? please?

 Seriously, though, it was fun watching someone discover the joys of a Riv
 bike for the first time. It's like a lightbulbs/fireworks/amazeballs moment.

 So would it be risky if I told her she could ride the QB while I rode AHH
 next time we go biking? (I would point her to the Riv site first,
 naturally...)

 -E.




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[RBW] Re: on spreading the joy of Rivs...

2015-07-03 Thread dougP

That does sound pretty risky.  First tell her that one that's really her 
size will be even nicer.  

My wife ride her Atlantis for about 5 minutes in a parking lot before 
rolling up with a big grin  saying I've got to have this bike.  This is 
a woman who was not shopping for a bike, is not particularly into bikes, 
and only rode it to humor me.  Recently we visited RBWHQ because I wanted 
to try one of long chainstay models.  I urged her to look around while 
we're here.  She declined, saying she's happy with her Atlantis.  I 
returned from my test ride to see her disappear around the corner on a 
Clementine.  Time will tell.  

Yea, Rivendell's will do that to people.  It really is magical.  

dougP

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 6:23:57 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:

 I seem to recall a post on this list that said the best way to sell (or 
 advertise) Riv was to let someone ride your Riv.

 Well, I was riding with a friend who hadn't biked in a year, and she was 
 getting faint on her Jamis commuter so we stopped and then got some coffee. 
 On the way back, she comments about how pretty my QB is, and since she's 
 slightly taller than me, I figure she can ride my bike without having me 
 readjust the saddle size. 

 I nearly didn't get my QB back. :) She was surprised by how stable the QB 
 was (it was a bit lighter and had skinnier tires than hers) and rode it 
 again and again and just one more time around the parking lot? please? 

 Seriously, though, it was fun watching someone discover the joys of a Riv 
 bike for the first time. It's like a lightbulbs/fireworks/amazeballs 
 moment. 

 So would it be risky if I told her she could ride the QB while I rode AHH 
 next time we go biking? (I would point her to the Riv site first, 
 naturally...)

 -E.






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[RBW] on spreading the joy of Rivs...

I was just out riding today with about a dozen girlfriends. They mostly had 
hybrid type bikes and most were occasional riders. It was pretty cool because 
Erin had her big 60 Cheviot and I had my little 46 Appaloosa which meant anyone 
just about could take a Riv for a spin! Long chainstays and boscos like nothing 
they'd ever seen much less ridden. Big smiles and comments like, I never knew 
a bike could be so comfortable! The Cheviot (or, as we've come to call her, 
the Big Girl) was quite a hit. We tried to interest a few in a 
Clem/Clementine. It was great fun.

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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

bob,
that is indeed the thermarest z-lite sol. it is bulky, but weighs next to 
nothing, so it is very easy to lash onto pretty much anything. it also is 
quite cheap, so i dont feel bad about abusing it. i try to put it on the 
bike in a spot that wouldnt be otherwise occupied. other than it's light 
weight, it's main benefit is zero set up or pack up time. i have a self 
inflating pad too. it is more comfortable, but it's heavier, takes much 
more time to get going, occupies space in a bag etc... i use it mostly when 
im staying in one spot for more than a night or car camping. 

doug,
your strategy is definitely a better and more experienced one. i was, i 
think, expecting unrealistic things. browsing it at home was great. 
expecting it to work on the road was my own misguided conception

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[RBW] Re: on spreading the joy of Rivs...

definitely the way. i usually get the it feels so 
smooth/stable/comfortable..it's probably hard to go fast though. this 
usually comes from people who have racing style bikes, but are not racers 
or even regular riders of bikes. after the comfort feeling, you can sort of 
push a little harder on the unracer logic now that there is a physical 
sensation to back it up.   my friend just went to a sam from a titanium 
road bike with a carbon fork and 23mm tires.  it's such an easy sell after 
a ride. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

2015-07-03 Thread James Warren

I remember the first batches not having one color; buyers had many choices. The 
only stock color it ever had was the butterscotch, and that came later.

I remember admiring the colors of the early ones on this list: a burgundy 
(Steve P's?), some beautiful greens, sage pea and a Coleman. I think I remember 
a dark blue as well. And someone had a yellow that was true yellow, not 
butterscotch.

Salukis with center pulls and Col de Vie's always struck my fancy, even though 
they could never be in my 63+ size. I love how the bikes set up that way 
screamed I know the things that work well on a bike. At that time, the center 
pull brake combined with 650B tire were as smart as you could get, given that 
both those parts were still far out of the mainstream then. Such a cool 
development in bikes.

I was excited when this goodness was brought to the tall folks with AHH, but 
when the models were rolled together, I wished that they had kept the Saluki 
name. But I guess if they had, then the Saluki name would not mean exclusively 
650B. The name Saluki is iconic in Riv history.

-Jim W.
Berkeley, CA (for this week)


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 3, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 That's one the original runs of salukis before they changed the decals to 
 script. Was that from the second batch? The first batch were kind of a 
 sage/pea green stock color.
 
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[RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?

2015-07-03 Thread Leslie

AASHTA:
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rambouillet/ 


On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 6:26:48 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 1. Are all blue Rambouillets 700c?
 2. At what size do you start getting into (if any on these bikes) 
 the problems of small sized bikes? 52? 50?
 I notice they have different rakes, CS lengths, head tube tilt, and drop 
 than the other sizes.
 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html
 3. Was there a distinctive run of frames that suffered from cracked rear 
 side chainstay/dropouts that should be avoided? I have heard a couple times 
 on this forum of this happening and was wondering if anyone knows if there 
 were enough broken stays to amount to a design flaw.

 Thanks for any info.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?

The Ram was designed in pre-650b-resurgence days. You are correct, the 
26-inch wheel was used for geometry purposes.

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 5:08:53 AM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:

 Was that the reason for the 26 tire?  I just figured it was to get the 
 geometry better in a smaller size.  I doubt many Riv buyers want a tire 
 slimmer than 32.  I know the Ram could take larger than 28 tires even in 
 the 700C sizes and most I have seen take advantage of that fact.

 On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 7:51:54 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 07/03/2015 07:41 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: 
  The 54 is for sure 700c. I thought only the 50 was a 26 wheel so I 
  learned something knew.  A 52 with a 26 wheel seems really odd to me 
  but I guess that's what you got in the days before 650B in rivland. 
  

 Even now, if what you wanted to build was a bike with 28mm tires you 
 most likely wouldn't choose 650B as the wheel size.  I think the only 
 28mm 650B tire is the Confrerie Hutchinson.  Everything else is 32mm or 
 wider. 




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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.

Ah, you make a good point about frame details. If both frames were being 
produced today, the Toyo-built Ram would be a good deal more expensive than 
the Taiwan Bleriot. The cream/white fills are more accurate on the Ram, 
too. Money buys details. 

On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:40:47 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:

 Howdy, 

 I had a 57cm Bleriot and my wife had a 50cm blue Ram. The Ram had 26 inch 
 wheels and we ran 1.25 Paselas. There was ample room for fenders but we 
 lived in Tucson so didn't have them installed. I can't say too much about 
 the ride quality outside of the fact that she loved the Ram. I would 
 describe the Ram as a road bike with more clearance and the Bleriot as a 
 country bike. They were both very nice bikes but the Ram was much nicer if 
 you inspected the details. I have only heard of problems on the early 
 (Orange) bikes and I thought they were all larger sizes. 

 If you want a more traditional road bike, get the Ram. If you want more of 
 a country/ gravel bike, get (keep?) the Bleriot. 

 Cheers! 
 Chris

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet vs. Bleriot: your take on it.


On 07/03/2015 09:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:
Ah, you make a good point about frame details. If both frames were 
being produced today, the Toyo-built Ram would be a good deal more 
expensive than the Taiwan Bleriot. The cream/white fills are more 
accurate on the Ram, too. Money buys details.


In fact, the Toyo-built Saluki was a good deal more expensive back then 
than the Taiwan Bleriot.



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[RBW] Re: Where you on River Road Thursday?

2015-07-03 Thread Christopher Murray

Tucson! Of course the river is usually dry.

Chris

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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

2015-07-03 Thread Bob E

Thanks for the detailed info, gents!

Cheers,

Bob

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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

2015-07-03 Thread dougP

Drew:

I see your point.  The way I've used it is to scratch out a quickie cue 
sheet between stops with only the pertinent navigational info to the next 
planned stop.  That way if I don't feel like taking the detour to the 
lighthouse or something I skip it.  Over breakfast, coffee, lunch, etc., 
I'll just figure what I need to know about the next segment.  I'm easily 
overloaded by TMI.  Plus I'm seldom on their exact schedule.  

dougP

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 4:27:19 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 Hey Doug, 
 You're right. Information wise, it's not too off the mark, though it 
 really only presents one route. What I found infuriating was the half 
 bullet point/half description directions where the format shifts 
 constantly. Keeping it simple ie. Left on 2nd right on 3rd etc. would 
 be ideal, but frequently the specific directional change or multiple 
 directional changes will be buried in an opinion paragraph that shouldn't 
 be in the bullet point direction parts. Especially when there are already 
 pages of opinion and description for each section. 

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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

2015-07-03 Thread dougP

Hopefully Drew will confirm what he used.  We've got one that looks the 
same.  It's a Thermarest Z Lite.  It folds up into a block about 20 x 5 x 
5.  A bit bulky but quite light.  It's my daughter's  she says it's 
comfy.  Whenever my inflatable punctures I intend to replace it with 
something similar.  Should probably sleep on it, though :-).

dougP

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 6:28:52 PM UTC-7, Bob E wrote:

 Thanks for the gear reviews, Drew! 

 Some questions about your sleeping pad: Which one is that? I've come 
 across quite a few photos of them lashed to bikes, and just wondering if 
 they're that good to warrant hauling around something that looks fairly 
 bulky. How do they compare with the inflatable ones?

 Oh, loved your photos, too

 Thanks!

 Bob E


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[RBW] New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

Bike: 46 Appaloosa with 55 big Bens and boscos
Bag: Shopsack in a wald
Coffee: Peace Bird Mountain (Mexican Dark roast, low acidity
Grinder: the Porlex rocks!
Stove: Trangia
Ignition: Wood light anywhere matches
Brewer:  Aeropress
Mug: Snowpeak  or a kuuksa made by Alex Yerkes 
(http://www.theaxeisboldaslove.com)
Food: cheese, hard salami, avocado, green peppers and blueberries in a Jarrod 
Stonedahl lock box 
(http://woodspirithandcraft.com/shop-1/locking-lidded-box-7-dia-4-tall) with 
one of his wooden spoons
Kick back Comfort: hammock and Into Thin Air
Or Craft: a piece of green birch or maple, a Mora or Del Stubbs slojd knife, 
and a Del Stubbs spoon knife. A carving kit fits poifectly in a Sackville 
Mark's ToolWrap.

My idea of heaven, or at least one of them!

(Patrick of the Deacon,  and all other bike book and *hatchet* lovers, check 
this stuff out!)

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

Hi Jim, I have one of the very first run myself, and so I can verify that there 
was a stock color sage/pea soup green--but so many came in unpainted that folks 
very often got to choose their own color or got them perhaps before Riv chose 
the color. I went with Riv red and canti's, not centerpulls (see recent 
tweedster post for a photo) . The butterscotch  color came with the script 
decals. I still though have a question about whether there was a run of silvers 
before the butterscotches. I know there was a last run of silver QB's, but when 
I saw this silver saluki it jogged my foggy memory.  Anyway, yes, Salukis are 
the mark for the 650B (along with the Wilbury and Glorious).

I hope this beautiful and beautifully built up bike finds a good home!

Liesl

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Re: [RBW] found a Ram on CL

2015-07-03 Thread James Warren

It's probably a 62 that the seller is calling 61 (C-C vs. C-T).

If so, it'll fit you well if your AHH isn't on the small side for you.

Good luck! Great bike!


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On Jul 1, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Don Funke bozemanchiroprac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found a 61cm Ram on CL. I have a 63 AHH. Is the ride really going to feel 
 different? Interested in doing Brevets. The 63 is in the upper limits of fit 
 for me. Is it worth the trade off of narrower tires for a bit more snappiness?
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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

Hey Doug, 
You're right. Information wise, it's not too off the mark, though it really 
only presents one route. What I found infuriating was the half bullet 
point/half description directions where the format shifts constantly. Keeping 
it simple ie. Left on 2nd right on 3rd etc. would be ideal, but frequently 
the specific directional change or multiple directional changes will be buried 
in an opinion paragraph that shouldn't be in the bullet point direction parts. 
Especially when there are already pages of opinion and description for each 
section. 

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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Saluki

That's one the original runs of salukis before they changed the decals to 
script. Was that from the second batch? The first batch were kind of a sage/pea 
green stock color.

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[RBW] New Olive ACW Mugs, new coffee? What kind of coffee/gear do you take on the bike?

2015-07-03 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch

The RIV crowd seems to be fully steeped in the whole coffee outside 
movement. Myself included. So I wanted to tap the wisdom of the group 
regarding your coffee on the bike preferences.

With my last batch of ACW mugs, I did some special packages with limited 
edition Columbia coffee beans roasted locally by Kaladi Coffee Co. They 
sold out quick. Now with a new batch of mugs, I have the opportunity to 
choose another coffee and do it again. Problem is, I rarely try different 
varieties which made me wonder what everyone else is cooking up. Out of 
that curiosity, I thought it would be interesting to compare your full 
checklist of coffee outside gear preferences.

Bike: Atlantis - 26 fattys - Albatross
Bag: Baggins Little Joe seat mounted
Coffee: Kaladi Peru, or Ocean Air Cycles Hobo Roleur (pre ground at 
home...for now) These are both a medium Viennese roast.
Stove: Caldera Keg
Ignition: Swedish firesteel
Brewer: Pourover or Aeropress, although I lean pourover on the bike.
Mug: ACW and Snowpeak 
Accoutrements: Small plastic bottles to hold cream, coffee, and white fuel. 
Separately of course. One or two bandanas. Pocket knife. I usually try to 
pack food of some sort. Apples, almonds, cheese among my favorite.
Comfort: NOW with Hammock! I've only had chance to use it once, but it's 
most likely permanent.
NEED: Small cutting board - Portable grinder (GSI or Porlexcant 
decide???)

When I got my first Rivendell after my daughter was born 8 years ago, it 
changed the way I rode for the happier. Adding mobile coffee to the 
equation redoubled that enjoyment.

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[RBW] Re: on spreading the joy of Rivs...

I love this Quickbeam. Ooh, yours has gears..? ;-)

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 6:23:57 PM UTC-7, Eunice Chang wrote:

 I seem to recall a post on this list that said the best way to sell (or 
 advertise) Riv was to let someone ride your Riv.

 Well, I was riding with a friend who hadn't biked in a year, and she was 
 getting faint on her Jamis commuter so we stopped and then got some coffee. 
 On the way back, she comments about how pretty my QB is, and since she's 
 slightly taller than me, I figure she can ride my bike without having me 
 readjust the saddle size. 

 I nearly didn't get my QB back. :) She was surprised by how stable the QB 
 was (it was a bit lighter and had skinnier tires than hers) and rode it 
 again and again and just one more time around the parking lot? please? 

 Seriously, though, it was fun watching someone discover the joys of a Riv 
 bike for the first time. It's like a lightbulbs/fireworks/amazeballs 
 moment. 

 So would it be risky if I told her she could ride the QB while I rode AHH 
 next time we go biking? (I would point her to the Riv site first, 
 naturally...)

 -E.






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[RBW] Re: sf-la ride report, gear review

2015-07-03 Thread Bob E

Thanks for the gear reviews, Drew! 

Some questions about your sleeping pad: Which one is that? I've come across 
quite a few photos of them lashed to bikes, and just wondering if they're 
that good to warrant hauling around something that looks fairly bulky. How 
do they compare with the inflatable ones?

Oh, loved your photos, too

Thanks!

Bob E

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[RBW] Toyo Frame

Gosh that's beautiful!

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[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area

2015-07-03 Thread Palmer

Hi Jay,
There is some great riding here both roads and dirt. I live between Muskegon 
And Newaygo and would be happy to show you some of my routes and find some more 
new ones.
How long will you be here? 
What Riv are you bringing?
Tom Palmer 
Twin Lake, MI

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[RBW] on spreading the joy of Rivs...

2015-07-03 Thread Eunice Chang

I seem to recall a post on this list that said the best way to sell (or
advertise) Riv was to let someone ride your Riv.

Well, I was riding with a friend who hadn't biked in a year, and she was
getting faint on her Jamis commuter so we stopped and then got some coffee.
On the way back, she comments about how pretty my QB is, and since she's
slightly taller than me, I figure she can ride my bike without having me
readjust the saddle size.

I nearly didn't get my QB back. :) She was surprised by how stable the QB
was (it was a bit lighter and had skinnier tires than hers) and rode it
again and again and just one more time around the parking lot? please?

Seriously, though, it was fun watching someone discover the joys of a Riv
bike for the first time. It's like a lightbulbs/fireworks/amazeballs
moment.

So would it be risky if I told her she could ride the QB while I rode AHH
next time we go biking? (I would point her to the Riv site first,
naturally...)

-E.

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[RBW] Re: Friday Headlands Ride?

2015-07-03 Thread Dan McNamara

Sorry I missed you all - got there about 20 mins late. Struggled to get the RnR 
tires on the backup wheel set with Synergy rims. No surprise. 

It was nice out there today. 

Dan




 On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Good times. 
 
 Here a link to the pics
 
 https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/claytonesseff/
 
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[RBW] Re: Friday Headlands Ride?

2015-07-03 Thread Clayton.sf

Crap. You must have just missed us. 

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Re: [RBW] What are these handlebars on Hunq (BLUG CONTENT!)

2015-07-03 Thread Clayton.sf

Nitto stems are mtb certified. EN something tested. Not sure about the bars 
though.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] What are these handlebars on Hunq (BLUG CONTENT!)

2015-07-03 Thread Ginz

Should the Map bars with a Nitto stem (techno dlx, for example) be deemed 
off-roadable? I know that nitto is very cautious about their stems,  but for 
reasonable riding?

The bullmoose is a little wide for me and I have used the Titec Spacebar OR. 
The 45 degree sweep is great but I'd like something a little fancier for the 
hunq. 

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Re: [RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in

2015-07-03 Thread ascpgh



 *Adjusting the cable tension with the barrel adjuster only moves the 
 problem from the three lowest gears to the middle gears*

 

 That points to the hanger alignment, or play in the the derailleur's 
 parallelogram pivots.

 

The derailleur's mounting bolt can get slightly slightly bent and produce 
 similar behavior too. You can remove the C-clip and take the bolt out to 
 examine while turned into the hanger threads, watching for a  wobble as 
 threaded in. A new RD is usually the best fix.Sometimes good luck in a bike 
 shop's recycling bin will net a similar RD that was tossed of other worse 
 failures that still has a good bolt still. 

 
Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 9:47:26 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

 Steve,everything in the drivetrain is (was before three brevets) brand 
 new. Cables, housing, cassette, chain, chain rings. Only the derailer and 
 shifters were not new. The problem still persisted. I took it to a good LBS 
 for a tune up and had them check for a bent hanger. Adjusting the cable 
 tension with the barrel adjuster only moves the problem from the three 
 lowest gears to the middle gears. Lungimsam, the D rings on the Silvers are 
 tight and I used beeswax. 

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[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area

2015-07-03 Thread Eric

In early Sept I'm taking the ferry over from Milwaukee and riding from 
Muskegon to Ann Arbor. I think it'll take 4-5 days, hopefully it'll be 
awesome! 

The League of Michigan Bicyclists has some good maps!

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 10:16:01 AM UTC-5, Call Me Jay wrote:

 Is it worth hauling one of Rivs 14 hours to ride out there?  I'm visiting 
 my in-laws.  Any good rides to recommend on pavement or dirt roads? 


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[RBW] Re: WTB 700c Pacenti Silver SL23 32h rims

2015-07-03 Thread Evan E.

Here they are, from the source. And on sale!

http://www.pacenticycledesign.com/index.php/products/rims/sl23

Evan

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[RBW] Re: WTB 700c Pacenti Silver SL23 32h rims

2015-07-03 Thread Evan E.

P.S. Oops. Silver available only in 28h. Pardon.

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Re: [RBW] sf-la ride report, gear review

2015-07-03 Thread Joe Broach

Thanks for the write-up and gear review. That Nemo looks slick. I like my
bivy ok for stealth camping, but there's something weird about crawling
into a sack in an actual campground. Nemo looks more natural there.  -joe
in pdx

Caveat lector. Sent from a phone.
On Jul 2, 2015 10:43 PM, drew drewbeckme...@gmail.com wrote:

 first off, thanks for all the suggestions in the planning post for this
 trip. it was great and brutal and fun and all that stuff. i learned,
 despite my desires, that i don't really stop and take pictures AND moreso,
 when i do, they are not that good. so, i gained a new appreciation for
 everyone who does post amazing pictures here. extra respect if you're
 carrying around a real camera. i brought mine, but didnt get it out once.
 the only reason i even put these on flickr is to encourage myself to start
 backing up photos in some way.
 pictures of proof HERE https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784882@N08/?

 anyway, a lot of you have done this ride already, so i thought i'd make
 this more of a gear review of things i hemmed and hawed about. things that
 dont have a ton of information and reviews out there.
 first and foremost, the hunqapillar was a worthy and loyal companion. i
 feel closer to it now than ever before. right before leaving i put on a
 sprung brooks, which resulted in pretty much zero butt pain, marathon
 supremes which were flatless and cushy enough, and a medium saddlesack
 which was able to fit 95% of the camping gear. left hand went numb about
 halfway through and i wish i had brought some gloves. other than that,
 smooth sailing.

 ok:
 *nemo gogo bivy tent thing*- loved it. its bigger than a bivy and
 slightly smaller than a tent. the arch is inflatable with no poles, making
 take down/pack down sooo easy and fast. it packs into a small compression
 sack really easy. i can see hot weather+warm body=condensation, but i got
 zero in 60-75 temps. the inflatable part is really robust and it has a
 patch kit just in case. highly recommended for fast and light travel.
 *goal zero solar panel-* just got the panel w/o battery. in retrospect,
 because of my weird/dropped/got-wet-too-many-times phone that has a hard
 time consistently charging, the battery wouldve been a good addition. also
 really liked this set up. clipped it to the front or rear and left devices
 in the little pouch and had power the entire trip.
 *jandd mini mountain panniers*- had these up front and they were rock
 solid. oddly, they were somewhat bigger than i needed, but they did the job
 with zero issues over lots of bouncy terrain
 *woolpower socks- *brought 3 pairs, wore only one the entire time. filthy
 but zero smells
 *cheapish wool/poly blend boxers from core4element-*previously had a
 bad run with all wool boxers that ripped after 2 rides. decided to try
 these that were a little thicker and had some polyester mixed in. results
 were definitely more durable. very comfortable, moisture wicking,
 breathable etc. they acquired butt stench fairly easily, though not as bad
 as synthetic.
 *wool t shirts by nau-*thin, breathable, comfortable, resisted BO.
 unfortunately, nearing the end, they had started to disintegratenot
 worth 30$
 *acorn tool roll*- super smart design. carried it like a mini pannier
 *bicycling the pacific coast-* infuriatingly useless the majority of
 the time, yet a real life saver on occassion. there has got to be a better
 carry-along book/map/guide for this trip.
 *stanley pot/cup-*super cheap and small boiling pot with 2 nesting dbl
 wall cups. i took a cup out and used the extra space to store the extra
 alcohol for the stove. used this every day. great buy 15$$$
 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stanley-Adventure-Series-Camp-Cook-Set/16784406



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[RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?

2015-07-03 Thread Fullylugged

The blue 50 and 52 were sold only as 26 because GP said you couldn't 
design proper geometry in those sizes with 700s.  I have a 52 with about 
12K miles on it since getting it new from RBW and still love it. It takes 
up to 37 mm tires (you have to let air out to get past the brakes though on 
tires larger than 32mm). It has great proportions and a custom bike for me 
would have the same dimensions I think.

On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 10:26:09 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:

 Both 50 and 52 are 26 for sure.   I don't know about 54.  My wife has a 
 50, if you want me to take any measurements or photos.   I'm sort of 
 getting the feeling, between these two threads, that you're considering 
 buying one???   

 My wife loves hers.  I think it's really perfectly proportioned, too 
 -  when I look at it, I can't even imagine how you'd make a bike this 
 size work with 700c wheels, unless the headtube shrunk to the point that 
 the top tube and down tube lugs overlapped each other.   She has never 
 complained about TCO either, which is great for someone that rides only 
 occasionally, and is something that I can only attribute to the smaller 
 wheel.

 I've never heard of any problems with the smaller sizes, so I'm not sure 
 what to say about that.   Both of our Rams (her 50 and my 60) are from the 
 later end of the run.  I think hers has slightly less tire clearance than 
 mine, but she doesn't like fenders so its not an issue.Still, she runs 
 1.25 (35) pasellas with clearance for miles, and has also run 1.6 (42) 
 Marathon Supremes - though they had to be aired-down to fit past the 
 calipers.  

 On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 4:53:06 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I've seen blue 26-inchers..I believe all 50cm Rams came that way. I'm 
 less sure about 52s. 

 On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 3:26:48 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 1. Are all blue Rambouillets 700c?
 2. At what size do you start getting into (if any on these bikes) 
 the problems of small sized bikes? 52? 50?
 I notice they have different rakes, CS lengths, head tube tilt, and drop 
 than the other sizes.
 http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/17.html
 3. Was there a distinctive run of frames that suffered from cracked rear 
 side chainstay/dropouts that should be avoided? I have heard a couple times 
 on this forum of this happening and was wondering if anyone knows if there 
 were enough broken stays to amount to a design flaw.

 Thanks for any info.



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[RBW] Re: Where you on River Road Thursday?

2015-07-03 Thread Fullylugged

How about the one along the Mississippi River Trail near Dyersburg TN?  
I've ridden that one before.

On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 11:08:43 AM UTC-5, pb wrote:



 On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 8:21:56 AM UTC-7, Sofia Torres wrote:

 I'm going to bet it's the river road across the George Washington bridge 
 from Manhattan. 


 I'm betting on DC - Potomac - and eastbound

 ~pb 


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Re: [RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in


On 07/02/2015 10:59 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

I'm so frustrated with my drive train. I had Shimano 9 speed bar ends with a 
front triple. They worked great in index mode. The indexing got finicky so I 
switched to friction.


So something went wrong with your drive train, and it is still wrong.   
9 speed Shimano bar end shifting, in my experience of many tens of 
thousands of miles, is never finicky unless something is failing.   
One suspect is a fraying shift cable.  Usually this happens right at the 
shift lever so a broken strand pokes your finger and gives you early 
warning of impending failure, but it's not the only possibility.



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Re: [RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in

Steve, I think you're onto something - but the only places shifter cables 
have broken on me were always at the derailleur clamp. Also seen wear 
damage anywhere the cable goes in or out of a housing.  

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 6:05:35 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 07/02/2015 10:59 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: 
  I'm so frustrated with my drive train. I had Shimano 9 speed bar ends 
 with a front triple. They worked great in index mode. The indexing got 
 finicky so I switched to friction. 

 So something went wrong with your drive train, and it is still wrong.   
 9 speed Shimano bar end shifting, in my experience of many tens of 
 thousands of miles, is never finicky unless something is failing.   
 One suspect is a fraying shift cable.  Usually this happens right at the 
 shift lever so a broken strand pokes your finger and gives you early 
 warning of impending failure, but it's not the only possibility. 




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[RBW] Re: Where you on River Road Thursday?

2015-07-03 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro

I no longer live in Minneapolis (and haven't since 1981) but there are a couple 
of River Roads along the Mississippi there.

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Re: [RBW] I can't get the shifting dialed in


On 07/03/2015 07:12 AM, Ron Mc wrote:
Steve, I think you're onto something - but the only places shifter 
cables have broken on me were always at the derailleur clamp. Also 
seen wear damage anywhere the cable goes in or out of a housing.


And I've /never/ seen one break there.  Every shift cable that's been 
replaced on my bikes over the years has frayed at the shifter.  What's 
more, most folks in the clubs I belong to use Shimano STI, and those 
brifters have a known issue with cable breakage -- but unlike a bar end 
shifter, where the fraying takes place outside the mechanism, where you 
can see and feel it when it starts, STI fraying is hidden inside the 
mechanism.  The only clue you have is the gears start slipping about 2 
miles before the cable fails completely -- and when it does, it often 
leaves shards of broken cable inside the tiny gears.  STI levers aren't 
serviceable and aren't made to be disassembled, so sometimes those 
shards of cable can't be removed and the entire unit must be replaced.   
What joy!


Of course, fraying inside the shifter isn't the only way a cable can 
fail, and fraying cables aren't the only possible source of imprecise 
index shifting.  Among other culprits are rusty or cracked  broken 
housings; bent derailleur hanger; housing collapsing where it fits into 
the ferrule, effectively altering housing length and consequently cable 
tension.  And those are just off the top of my head, things I've seen on 
the road or have had happen to my bikes over the years, not meant to be 
an exhaustive list.


If this were my bike, I'd make a clean sweep of it and have the cables 
and housings replaced, and have the alignment of the rear derailleur 
checked at the same time.   This is where most such problems originate, 
and it's basically routine maintenance.  If that doesn't fix the 
problem, let the serious diagnostics begin.  But keep this mantra in 
mind: Shimano indexed 9 speed shifting is in general NOT finicky, 
especially not with bar end shifters.



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[RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?

2015-07-03 Thread Johnny Alien

The 54 is for sure 700c. I thought only the 50 was a 26 wheel so I learned 
something knew.  A 52 with a 26 wheel seems really odd to me but I guess 
that's what you got in the days before 650B in rivland.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are all blue Rambouillets 700c, and another frame question?