Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Could Grant out tentacular this Bilenky Tandem?
https://cyclingabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/wpid-Photo-201405021227482.jpg

I do love that fork crown. Maybe Riv'll make 'em available, and I could put 
it on my Hunqapillar.

Eric, don't over think this-- the Hunqapillar is terrific at single track, 
touring, commuting, cruising. Can't go wrong with it if you Just Ride. 





On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:40:49 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 60 mm clearance still isn't enough for a 60 mm Super Moto, quite possibly 
 the dreamiest all-rounder tire.  

 If it is a tandem, will they use the same seat lug as the Clem, and 
 therefore the curved chainstays?

 And imagine the tentacular diaga-stay tomfoolery Grant could design, with 
 nearly double the real estate!

 I agree, that whatever it is will be worth the wait.

 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:


 60mm clearance is the same as the Clems . it's pretty clear that this 
 clearance will be the standard clearance for future frames intended for 
 wide-r tires . 55mm to 60mm still not very wide though compared to true fat 
 tire bikes these days that are 3-5 .




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Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Huh? This isn't Over Thinkers Anonymous? Grin.

Patrick

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:36:34 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:



 Eric, don't over think this


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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
I have a compact double, 42/25T, 12-29 rear, and the Ultegra CX-70 that Riv 
sells is the Perfect front derailleur.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/Viner/aP3150004.jpg
  


As far as the RD and range, just do a chain wrap calculation, compare to 
the RD spec, and you'll know for sure if you can use every combination.  

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:37:05 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:

 As others have mentioned, the biggest issue will be finding a compatible 
 front derailleur.




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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Eye candy!!!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Phase 2 of my bike downsize: Low Trail fork Hunqapillar will be the first to go...

2015-07-09 Thread Will
Rene,

When I first got my Atlantis it was completly bare bones. No racks, no 
fenders, just some 42mm touring tires and moustache bars with friction 
barends. I had an absolute blast bombing around town. The bike felt sporty 
and fast. 

So I get where you're going with the Compass 38s and the Elysee's. It's 
gotta feel stupendous.

In your old post, you mentioned a couple of Santa Cruz mtn bikes... How did 
they make the team vs this one-of-a-kind Hunq with just about every Gucci 
part imaginable? 

Will

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 6:32:30 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

 With the wonderful help and insight provided by some members on this 
 group, both publicly and privately, I'm ready for phase 2 of my downsize, 
 which is getting rid of my first Rivendell bike. 

 I've decided the bike I'm going to sell is my Hunqapillar with its low 
 trail fork and pewter paint job. It wasn't easy to make this decision, for 
 all the obvious emotional reasons, but after following the advice of one 
 list member on riding one bike only for a while, alternating between my 
 Hunqapillar and my Atlantis (both with low trail forks), there is no doubt 
 in my mind that the one I enjoy the most, can ride most comfortably and 
 just love to take out when I can ride, is the Atlantis in its latest 
 configuration with the Barlow Pass tires and the Compass Elysees handlebars 
 with reverse brake levers. So, while I can rationalize why I would still 
 keep the Hunqapillar, contrary to what I first thought I'd do, this is the 
 one that has to go now.

 In parallel to all these thoughts, and probably due to the same underlying 
 root causes and following the advice of another list member, I finally read 
 Grant's book Eat Bacon, Don't Jog, and exactly two months ago started 
 following the HFLC protocol that he outlines so clearly and in such a 
 simple manner. Today I've broken the 20 lbs loss barrier, which of course, 
 has huge implications for how and what I'll ride. Therefore, when next I 
 manage to do an S240, not before Fall, I presume, it will be on my Atlantis 
 instead of the Hunqapillar. Additionally, in the coming months I'll be 
 riding my Homer a lot more, as well as my Betty Foy.

 The reason for my post is to explore whether to sell the Hunqapillar as a 
 complete bike, or sell the frame and forks plus the parts separately. I'm 
 traveling for business tomorrow and won't be back until July 26, so I'd 
 like to use this time to gauge interest from the group, as well as to get 
 some formal offers if anyone is really interested.

 Here is what I would sell, as a whole or in parts (currently assembled):

 - 58cm Hunqapillar with pewter/cream paint job and low trail fork painted 
 to match, with all braze-ons needed for racks and fenders and Chris King 
 silver headset as well as front/rear brake cable stops for cantilever 
 brakes and original 26.8 Nitto seat post. Currently outfitted with downtube 
 Duraace down tube 9 speed shifters.
 - Original fork with original gray/plumb paint
 - Nitto Mini front rack
 - Nitto Big rear rack
 - Tubus Nova lowrider stainless steel front rack
 - 700c A719/XT wheelset built by Rich Lesnik @ Riv
 - 60mm steel Berthoud fenders (with a couple of almost invisible nicks 
 from regular use)
 - Front Paul Neo-Retro high polish brake
 - Rear Paul Touring Canti high polish brake
 - Phil bottom bracket (don't remember its width, but perfect for the 
 Hunqapillar with a Sugino crankset)
 - Sugino triple crankset (I currently have a custom double + guard that 
 I'm going to keep, but I think I have a spare triple one)
 - No front derailer, as I'm keeping the Centaur one I currently have.
 - Rear Shimano XT Shadow RD M-772 (not sure if I may keep it and 
 substitute for a different one if the bike is sold assembled)
 - Trimmed to fit silver Pletscher twin kickstand
 - Front  rear Big Ben tires with lots of life left
 - Bosco Bullmoose handlebar, or regular Bosco with Nitto stem.
 - Shimano brake levers (or similar)
 - MKS Sneaker pedals
 - No bottle cages as I'm keeping the King cages currently installed
 - Brooks leather ring grips 
 - Brooks B17 Special (I think) practically brand new saddle.

 Let me know if you are interested in either the whole bike or parts of it, 
 and make some serious offers if you are serious about it. I'd rather sell 
 locally in the Bay Area, but can arrange for shipping as needed, with the 
 appropriate additional charges. Whatever happens will happen on July 26 or 
 afterwards. Photos of different states of the bike: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157627319515196

 Thank you all so much, for all the help, guidance, feedback and enduring 
 my long messages!

 René



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[RBW] Re: encomium of SaddleSack Medium as a daily commute bag

2015-07-09 Thread Leslie
My kids nicknamed me Khaki Man...   I also FAR prefer the tan color on 
everything.The reason why all my stuff is Acorn instead of Sackville 
was that they didn't have the tan RBW stuff when I was buying but Acorn 
did...   


-L






On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 12:12:53 PM UTC-4, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:

 I typically ride my bike a short distance (1-5 miles) to a train, then a 
 train 40-50 minutes into work.

 Recently I've settled into using my SaddleSack Medium as my daily commute 
 bag. On a normal day it's pretty empty; lunch, hat, minimal gear don't 
 really challenge it. (I store tube/tools/etc separately.) But it also 
 swallows up rain cape  splats, additional snacks/tea/coffee, gloves, extra 
 layers, general cargo, and still has room for a laptop when needed. The 
 side pockets are great for wallet/phone/glasses/keys, which remain mid-ride 
 accessible.

 In the past few weeks the ACW mug has become my go-to drinking 
 vessel while on the train. It's just the right size to allow me to control 
 temperature better than my large Klean Kanteen source container. And 
 it better supports actual open-air sipping, which somehow has more appeal 
 than sippy-top containers when I'm seated stably on a train. And it dries 
 well hanging from the SaddleSack.

 The Nitto saddlebag grip is of course a vital component of the system. 
 (Need to find a silver acorn for this one.)


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZa9RU854vs/VZ6bv-V0yQI/AO4/sO2EkcApkNg/s1600/SSMACW.jpg

 I'm glad I was able to score a tan SaddleSack. Among the colors RBW has 
 offered over the years, it remains my favorite.

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean



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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread drew
ok, you've got my interest. the cable splitters, im assuming, are little 
ends that let you attach and de-attach cables at a midpoint of your 
choosing? ive seen them, but im not 100% sure about how they work. so...
do they need to be attached on bare cable, or is there a way to do it in 
the middle of a housed section? 
if you're swapping bars, do you need a set on each bar configuration? (2 
brake + 2 derailleur x 2 handlebar = 8 splitters) 

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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Ginz
Oh, and Divinci sells a bar swap kit that includes four males and two 
females for this exact purpose.   




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[RBW] encomium of SaddleSack Medium as a daily commute bag

2015-07-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I typically ride my bike a short distance (1-5 miles) to a train, then a 
train 40-50 minutes into work.

Recently I've settled into using my SaddleSack Medium as my daily commute 
bag. On a normal day it's pretty empty; lunch, hat, minimal gear don't 
really challenge it. (I store tube/tools/etc separately.) But it also 
swallows up rain cape  splats, additional snacks/tea/coffee, gloves, extra 
layers, general cargo, and still has room for a laptop when needed. The 
side pockets are great for wallet/phone/glasses/keys, which remain mid-ride 
accessible.

In the past few weeks the ACW mug has become my go-to drinking vessel while 
on the train. It's just the right size to allow me to control temperature 
better than my large Klean Kanteen source container. And it better 
supports actual open-air sipping, which somehow has more appeal than 
sippy-top containers when I'm seated stably on a train. And it dries well 
hanging from the SaddleSack.

The Nitto saddlebag grip is of course a vital component of the system. 
(Need to find a silver acorn for this one.)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aZa9RU854vs/VZ6bv-V0yQI/AO4/sO2EkcApkNg/s1600/SSMACW.jpg

I'm glad I was able to score a tan SaddleSack. Among the colors RBW has 
offered over the years, it remains my favorite.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Clayton.sf

Note that even though the cx70 is a double front derailer it worked well for me 
with a triple sugino too.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Ginz
You use them on bare cables, not in the middle of a housed section. 

If you have mtb brake levers, you can sneak the cable nipple out of the 
lever.  This works well for swapping between Albatross and Bullmoose 
(provided you can live with the same length of brake housing).  If you are 
swapping between Albatross and drops, then the front brake needs some 
consideration.How do folks handle this?  Do you have to loosen the 
cable anchor bolt and reinstall? Does that weaken the cable over itme?


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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread reynoldslugs
sorry everyone, that's obviously an NOS Superbe Pro on my Heron, not a new 
Sun XCD.  

Both work well.  I did put a Sun XCD on my Legolas (which has the new 
Sugino wide range 26-40) and it works very, very well.

Legolas here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14752335602/in/album-72157645542691980/

Apologies for the initial error, and for multiple posts.




 Max


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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Justin August
If you use Centerpulls then you can make sure you have slotted cable 
hangars and you can unhook and remove the brakes without needing splitters. 
Then you just have to do new runs for the new bars. You do need enjoy 
barrel adjusters and straddle carriers (what are those called!).

If you use stem shifters, just unbolt, rebolt.
Downtubes, nothing!
Thumbies/Barcons/STIs then you'll need splitters.

-J

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 9:54:14 AM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 You use them on bare cables, not in the middle of a housed section. 

 If you have mtb brake levers, you can sneak the cable nipple out of the 
 lever.  This works well for swapping between Albatross and Bullmoose 
 (provided you can live with the same length of brake housing).  If you are 
 swapping between Albatross and drops, then the front brake needs some 
 consideration.How do folks handle this?  Do you have to loosen the 
 cable anchor bolt and reinstall? Does that weaken the cable over itme?




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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
Clayton-

The CX-70--and many other double FDs--can work fine with a triple
crankset.  Except with Shimano STIs, which is the OP's question.

Jan Heine covered this particular issue well.  It's the same article where
he praises the CX-70, btw.

https://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/trouble-with-sti-triples/

Campagnolo Ergopower shifters may be more versatile, as they don't actually
index as much as ratchet.

Or, try Gevenalle/Retroshifts.  I haven't tried them yet, but they have
lots of fans.  My friend tried them and said they're great once you adapt
to the shifting action.

Tim


On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Clayton.sf clayton...@gmail.com wrote:


 Note that even though the cx70 is a double front derailer it worked well
 for me with a triple sugino too.

 Clayton Scott
 SF, CA



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[RBW] Re: FS: Phase 2 of my bike downsize: Low Trail fork Hunqapillar will be the first to go...

2015-07-09 Thread René Sterental
Ha ha ha ha!!! Nicely put! One of the Santa Cruz bikes is also departing.
My son really doesn't want to mountain bike and I have to respect that.
Besides, he's now tall enough to ride one of the other Rivs in my stable,
so we'll still be doing some rides together every now and then. Just not on
dual suspension trail bikes. I just didn't post that one on this list for
obvious reasons.

Still, the same considerations apply, sell the whole bike or sell it as
frame/fork + parts...  It's not fun selling a bike...

René

On Thursday, July 9, 2015, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rene,

 When I first got my Atlantis it was completly bare bones. No racks, no
 fenders, just some 42mm touring tires and moustache bars with friction
 barends. I had an absolute blast bombing around town. The bike felt sporty
 and fast.

 So I get where you're going with the Compass 38s and the Elysee's. It's
 gotta feel stupendous.

 In your old post, you mentioned a couple of Santa Cruz mtn bikes... How
 did they make the team vs this one-of-a-kind Hunq with just about every
 Gucci part imaginable?

 Will

 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 6:32:30 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

 With the wonderful help and insight provided by some members on this
 group, both publicly and privately, I'm ready for phase 2 of my downsize,
 which is getting rid of my first Rivendell bike.

 I've decided the bike I'm going to sell is my Hunqapillar with its low
 trail fork and pewter paint job. It wasn't easy to make this decision, for
 all the obvious emotional reasons, but after following the advice of one
 list member on riding one bike only for a while, alternating between my
 Hunqapillar and my Atlantis (both with low trail forks), there is no doubt
 in my mind that the one I enjoy the most, can ride most comfortably and
 just love to take out when I can ride, is the Atlantis in its latest
 configuration with the Barlow Pass tires and the Compass Elysees handlebars
 with reverse brake levers. So, while I can rationalize why I would still
 keep the Hunqapillar, contrary to what I first thought I'd do, this is the
 one that has to go now.

 In parallel to all these thoughts, and probably due to the same
 underlying root causes and following the advice of another list member, I
 finally read Grant's book Eat Bacon, Don't Jog, and exactly two months
 ago started following the HFLC protocol that he outlines so clearly and in
 such a simple manner. Today I've broken the 20 lbs loss barrier, which of
 course, has huge implications for how and what I'll ride. Therefore, when
 next I manage to do an S240, not before Fall, I presume, it will be on my
 Atlantis instead of the Hunqapillar. Additionally, in the coming months
 I'll be riding my Homer a lot more, as well as my Betty Foy.

 The reason for my post is to explore whether to sell the Hunqapillar as a
 complete bike, or sell the frame and forks plus the parts separately. I'm
 traveling for business tomorrow and won't be back until July 26, so I'd
 like to use this time to gauge interest from the group, as well as to get
 some formal offers if anyone is really interested.

 Here is what I would sell, as a whole or in parts (currently assembled):

 - 58cm Hunqapillar with pewter/cream paint job and low trail fork painted
 to match, with all braze-ons needed for racks and fenders and Chris King
 silver headset as well as front/rear brake cable stops for cantilever
 brakes and original 26.8 Nitto seat post. Currently outfitted with downtube
 Duraace down tube 9 speed shifters.
 - Original fork with original gray/plumb paint
 - Nitto Mini front rack
 - Nitto Big rear rack
 - Tubus Nova lowrider stainless steel front rack
 - 700c A719/XT wheelset built by Rich Lesnik @ Riv
 - 60mm steel Berthoud fenders (with a couple of almost invisible nicks
 from regular use)
 - Front Paul Neo-Retro high polish brake
 - Rear Paul Touring Canti high polish brake
 - Phil bottom bracket (don't remember its width, but perfect for the
 Hunqapillar with a Sugino crankset)
 - Sugino triple crankset (I currently have a custom double + guard that
 I'm going to keep, but I think I have a spare triple one)
 - No front derailer, as I'm keeping the Centaur one I currently have.
 - Rear Shimano XT Shadow RD M-772 (not sure if I may keep it and
 substitute for a different one if the bike is sold assembled)
 - Trimmed to fit silver Pletscher twin kickstand
 - Front  rear Big Ben tires with lots of life left
 - Bosco Bullmoose handlebar, or regular Bosco with Nitto stem.
 - Shimano brake levers (or similar)
 - MKS Sneaker pedals
 - No bottle cages as I'm keeping the King cages currently installed
 - Brooks leather ring grips
 - Brooks B17 Special (I think) practically brand new saddle.

 Let me know if you are interested in either the whole bike or parts of
 it, and make some serious offers if you are serious about it. I'd rather
 sell locally in the Bay Area, but can arrange for shipping as needed, with
 the appropriate additional charges. 

[RBW] Fs brooks nitto

2015-07-09 Thread subfascia

Hello all.  Prices include shipping inside conus, farther will be a few $ more.

Brooks swift Ti Honey. Used not abused, it was on a spare bike. $150

Nitto technomic 12cm 25.4 clamp 220 height. $40 shipped

Thanks
Paypal friends and family accepted
Email offlist / private

Jason
SF,CA

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread sameness
Whoa. Those cranks need to be tagged NSFW.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote:

 sorry everyone, that's obviously an NOS Superbe Pro on my Heron, not a new 
 Sun XCD.  

 Both work well.  I did put a Sun XCD on my Legolas (which has the new 
 Sugino wide range 26-40) and it works very, very well.

 Legolas here:


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/14752335602/in/album-72157645542691980/

 Apologies for the initial error, and for multiple posts.




 Max



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[RBW] Re: IRD Thumbshifters and Quill shift mount questions

2015-07-09 Thread Johnny Alien
If I ditch the derailer will the chain stay properly.  I actually assumed 
that would be the way it worked but I wasn't sure. I thought maybe it would 
still need it as a guide.

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[RBW] Meanwhile in Toranto...

2015-07-09 Thread Manuel Acosta
http://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/people-in-toronto-created-a-memorial-to-a-dead-raccoon-after?bffbtrendingutm_term=4ldqphx#.wmOnKXK9w


You ask about Riv content...

Fellow list member's tweet is featured here...

Also it's hilarious .


Manny

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[RBW] Re: IRD Thumbshifters and Quill shift mount questions

2015-07-09 Thread Joe Bernard
As Patrick says, you should be ok. Just avoid slamming up-shifts while 
going over big-old bumps..that's moment when tension at the rear derailer 
would be reduced, giving the chain enough slack to jump off the ring with a 
good bounce behind it. 

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 6:45:14 PM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:

 If I ditch the derailer will the chain stay properly.  I actually assumed 
 that would be the way it worked but I wasn't sure. I thought maybe it would 
 still need it as a guide.


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Re: [RBW] Re: IRD Thumbshifters and Quill shift mount questions

2015-07-09 Thread Patrick Moore
IME, which extends across the gamut of fully 2 bicycles -- old 5 speed
Raleigh Sprite, and '03 Curt Custom 1X10 -- a chain will stay put very
securely on a relatively close ratio cluster ridden on pavement. What one
will do if subjected to the jarring of rough dirt roads, I can't say.

Someone does make chainrings designed precisely for single ring, derailleur
drivetrains, with alternating thick and thin teeth; this was discussed on
this or the boblist recently.

Back to the Raleigh Sprite: single ring-cum-derailleur drivetrains used to
be quite common on city and utility bikes; heck, even on sporting bikes:

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/psychlist/media/P4073421_edited.jpg.html



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 that would be the way it worked but I wasn't sure. I thought maybe it would
 still need it as a guide.

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[RBW] IRD Thumbshifters and Quill shift mount questions

2015-07-09 Thread Joe Bernard
The IRD thumbshifter is a shortened Silver ratchet shifter, so it should fit 
onto the IRD stem mount just fine. But you might be able to skip this step 
altogether and just mount your shifters-with-clamps onto your quill stem. The 
diameter of your clamps and the stem mount is the same, so just put a wrap of 
cloth tape around the stem and slide them on. This will be a bit clunky with 
two shifters - and I'm not sure how the cable angle will work - but should work 
fine with just one. 

Keeping the front derailer without a shifter will work if you can get the limit 
screws adjusted to hold it in place over the big ring. Or you can ditch it so 
you can stop and put the chain on the small ring for that inevitable big hill.

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[RBW] IRD Thumbshifters and Quill shift mount questions

2015-07-09 Thread Johnny Alien
When I bought my Hillborne from the fine Riv folks I got the Albatross bars 
with IRD thumbshifters set up. When Brian was building it up he warned me 
that while those thumbshifters are fantastic (and they are) that it might 
be better to go with the stem shifter mount or bar ends to give me max 
amount of positions on the bars.  I really wanted the shifting right by my 
hands and I don't like bar end shifters that much so I told him it would be 
fine with the thumbs.  I should learn that the Riv folks really know their 
stuff because after owning it for almost a year now I have decided that I 
really feel a bit cramped around the brake area because of the shifters. 
 Is it possible to remount the IRD shifters onto the quill shift mount? It 
seems like it should be possible but I am unsure.  My other option is 
this...I don't use the front shifter at all. I have the wide low double and 
am always in the larger chainring.  I could always just mount the right 
thumb shifter onto the quill and just drop the left one completely. I 
assume that as long as I leave the derailer there I could just remove that 
shifter completely.  All of this might free me up to more easily switch to 
moustache bars later if I want to.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-09 Thread Joe Bernard
It's been huge fun so far. I've had a plethora of 20-inch-wheel folders, 
but this is the first one with drops. It's also the first one which handles 
like a regular bike..very impressive. 

It sounds like y'all are happy with brifters on Noodles, so I'll get my 
order in to Riv. Sorry, it'll be 44cm..I tried 46 on my Romulus and it was 
just a *bit* too wide for my short little arms ;)

Joe Bernard
30 minutes from Walnut Creek, CA. 

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:54:46 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Drop-bar 20-wheeled bikes are a blast... especially when a 46cm 
 noodle is involved! 48 should work too, but I've found as I widen my 
 bar, I prefer a little less stem (e.g. 1cm shorter than w/ 46 or gasp, 
 44). 
 =- Joe Bunik 
 Walnut Creek, CA 


 On 7/9/15, Call Me Jay callme...@mac.com javascript: wrote: 
  I have 46cm Noodles with Campy 10 Ergos on my Custom and it seems to fit 
 me 
  
  fine.  No complaints. 
  
  On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:34:26 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: 
  
  I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
  years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them 
 for 
  a 
  while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried 
  years 
  ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars 
 were 
  
  44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, 
 with 
  
  a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a 
 bit 
  
  long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 
  
  Thanks, 
  Joe click click Bernard 
  Vallejo, CA. 
  
  
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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Shoji that Flickr album is inspiring, love the multi-bar Hunq!

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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Garth

This is great entertainment  , every time Riv releases an photo of an 
object . silly season ensues  !   It's just a fork crown after all :-)  

60mm clearance is the same as the Clems . it's pretty clear that this 
clearance will be the standard clearance for future frames intended for 
wide-r tires . 55mm to 60mm still not very wide though compared to true fat 
tire bikes these days that are 3-5 .  

Whatever the frame(s) will be, they're going to be wonderful so it's all 
always good :)  

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[RBW] Re: Clementine Believer

2015-07-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
I believe the production frame Clems and Clementines will have two bottle 
mounts.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 11:23:01 PM UTC-6, A. L Young wrote:

 I saw only one bottle mount on the Clementine. The Blug shows a bottle 
 behind the seat tube on that black Clemmy.  It appears strapped on though.  
 I think the absence of a bottle holder somewhere on the seat tube is 
 disappointing. 
 Maybe it didn't work well on prototypes??

 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR
  

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Avery Wilson
Another not directly related answer, but I use campagnolo ergo shifters with 
8 speeds in the back, and a wide-low double up front. Works great. I can shift 
all 8 gears in the back with the front on the 42 tooth, no rubbing or noise, 
and don't even need to trim. 

That said, campy ergo front shifters aren't indexed. They have something like 
12 detants, so there's quite a bit of flexibility for shifting / trimming. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
60 mm clearance still isn't enough for a 60 mm Super Moto, quite possibly
the dreamiest all-rounder tire.

If it is a tandem, will they use the same seat lug as the Clem, and
therefore the curved chainstays?

And imagine the tentacular diaga-stay tomfoolery Grant could design, with
nearly double the real estate!

I agree, that whatever it is will be worth the wait.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


 60mm clearance is the same as the Clems . it's pretty clear that this
 clearance will be the standard clearance for future frames intended for
 wide-r tires . 55mm to 60mm still not very wide though compared to true fat
 tire bikes these days that are 3-5 .


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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Matthew J
I am as interested in the possible crown mounted rack that Riv may be 
introducing as the bike that will get the crown.

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
As others have mentioned, the biggest issue will be finding a compatible 
front derailleur.

Shimano STI shifters work with road front derailleurs, not with mountain 
ones.  Road triples are optmized around a larger crankset, like 50/39/30, 
and generally have longer cages that could hit the chainstay, since you'll 
be setting the FD up quite low.  

The IRD Alpina front derailer that Riv sells seems to be optimized for 
smaller rings, so it may be your best bet for a compact triple.  If you run 
a double, the CX-70 seems like a good option.

Personally, I've never been satisfied with the STI or Ergo triple setups 
I've tried.  Too awkward, too much effort, hard to trim, and generally 
subpar front shift performance (I'm satisfied with STI/Ergo double 
shifting).  My favorite shifter for a triple is the Silver bar-end.  It's 
smoother than the Shimano bar-ends and seems to have a bit more cable pull, 
which equals to shorter, stronger shift lever motions.  Conversely, I'm 
beginning to prefer Shimano bar-ends in indexed mode for the rear shifter. 
 In my experience, the friction thumbscrew is unreliable and always too 
tight or too loose.  I'm about to set up both my main bikes in such a 
Frankenstein combination, Silver on the left and Shimano on the right.

Regarding cross-chain issues, a properly set up double will allow you to 
shift to each extreme (big/big and small/small) without the chain rubbing 
on the front derailer (modern double STIs have additional trim positions 
in between).  That doesn't mean that it's a good idea to ride in those 
combinations.

Tim

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 3:22:25 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:

 Are the Sugino cranks that Riv sells (Triple (46/36/24) or Wide/Lo double) 
 compatible with 9 Speed Shimano STI Shifters?
  

 With the Wide/Low crank, can you successfully use the full range of the 
 cassette with each front chainring (without cross-chain issues)?  For 
 example, if I had a 11/34 cassette, could I use the 40-11 as well as the 
 40-34?  and could I use the 26-11 as well as the 26-34?  
  
 Thanks In Advance

  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Gavin
Yes, that should present no problem.  Double shifting isn't so picky, and
the CX-70 should clear the frame (it's designed for smaller rings).

Newer double STI shifters have additional cross-chain detents, for
trimming.  I don't know when / what product level Shimano incorporated
these, though.

A wide-low (aka ultracompact) double, paired with a wide range cassette,
can produce a very usable gearing range.

Best of luck,
Tim

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 Any idea if Shimano Double STI Shifters (sora, tiagra) would be compatible
 with the CX70 FD with the Sugino wide/low double crank?


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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Jack Doran
Thanks for the photos, Shoji. Also, you're killing it with that coordinated 
red/grey tape on the moustache bars

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:50:27 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 I've set up my Hunqapillar with all of 'em:
 Noodles (48cm, 10-cm stem)
 Albatross (12-cm stem)
 Bullmoose
 Moustache (7-cm stem)

 I use cable splitters for quick changes of handlebars. Takes ~10 min to 
 swap from one to another. (Takashi, who's also on this group with a 
 Hunqapillar, is also a bar swapper. I think he uses down-tube shifters, 
 which would vastly simplify swapping.)

 I chose a smaller Hunqapillar (with my PBH, the recommendation is 48 or 
 51-- I went with 48), as I wanted a drop-bar. Albatross is fine on it, but 
 I could probably use a longer stem. Bullmoose is good, but I think the head 
 tube is higher than I want. 

 My favorites are moustache and noodles for this bike. But I swap bars 
 somewhat regularly, because it's almost like having 4 different bikes. 

 Some pics of the different set ups: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157644332271299

 Happy riding!
 Shoji



 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:38:03 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:

 my hunq had albatross bars and a 11cm tallux for most of it's life. for 
 most normal day riding, i was very happy with that even though i mostly 
 found my hands sliding forward to the curves, kinda sitting on top of the 
 brake clamps.  on a 1.5 week tour, this started to become quite 
 uncomfortable. separately, i couldnt find a comfortable place for my hands 
 on long, steep climbs. they wanted to go to the front of the bar, but the 
 downslope made that feel weird.  anyway, i got home, got curious, and put 
 on an albastache with 8cm dirt drop stem. so far so good. haven't done any 
 multi day rides yet where they will truly reveal themselves, but the 
 albastache are great/comfortable/uprightish with still some forward lean 
 capability for the 10 mile rides ive been doing.  

 also, ill come out and say that i think mustache style bars look great, 
 and ill admit that i kept the albatross cockpit fully intact for 
 re-plugging in, because it truly was an almost always perfect set up that 
 im not yet fully convinced i have improved on. 



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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread EGNolan
They could use it on the Clem now that it's cast for, I assume the same 
price as a hunq crown, but it wouldn't have saved them money to get the 
tooling  molds made in the first place. Far cheaper to use a crown they 
already had. 

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 3:39:38 PM UTC-4, Christopher Murray wrote:

 What about the possibility that this is the new Clem fork? Wouldn't this 
 be cheaper/ easier to make? The sockets remind me of the Clem seat tube lug 
 and hark back to the Heron seat cluster. Is this a stretch? 

 Oh, and I love it!!! 

 Cheers! 
 Chris 

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread RDS
Any idea if Shimano Double STI Shifters (sora, tiagra) would be compatible 
with the CX70 FD with the Sugino wide/low double crank?

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 4:22:25 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote:

 Are the Sugino cranks that Riv sells (Triple (46/36/24) or Wide/Lo double) 
 compatible with 9 Speed Shimano STI Shifters?
  

 With the Wide/Low crank, can you successfully use the full range of the 
 cassette with each front chainring (without cross-chain issues)?  For 
 example, if I had a 11/34 cassette, could I use the 40-11 as well as the 
 40-34?  and could I use the 26-11 as well as the 26-34?  
  
 Thanks In Advance

  


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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Christopher Murray
What about the possibility that this is the new Clem fork? Wouldn't this be 
cheaper/ easier to make? The sockets remind me of the Clem seat tube lug and 
hark back to the Heron seat cluster. Is this a stretch? 

Oh, and I love it!!!

Cheers!
Chris 

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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I do this same thing with my two Hillbornes. Though in my case I confess I 
tend to use the Bosco and Albatross bars most of the time (80%). I've used 
my Moustache every now and then and I've only rarely used the Noodles 
and Bullmoose over the past year or two.

Even with my limited exploitation of the variations, this is a great way to 
operate. After all, people with n+1 bikes surely go through phases of 
riding mn of those bikes most of the time. Being bar-switch-capable is a 
cheap (and space-saving!) way of having some freedom of choice. Switching 
bars really does yield something of a different bike feel. DaVinci 
splitters are great!

Shoji's note has brought to mind how much fun it is to whip that Bullmoose 
around. Definitely going to take some decent rides with those in the coming 
days. Probably take me
 15-20mins to switch this time; I think I've shuffled derailers, cables, 
and maybe the rear wheel since last time.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 9:50:27 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 I've set up my Hunqapillar with all of 'em:
 Noodles (48cm, 10-cm stem)
 Albatross (12-cm stem)
 Bullmoose
 Moustache (7-cm stem)

 I use cable splitters for quick changes of handlebars. Takes ~10 min to 
 swap from one to another. (Takashi, who's also on this group with a 
 Hunqapillar, is also a bar swapper. I think he uses down-tube shifters, 
 which would vastly simplify swapping.)

 I chose a smaller Hunqapillar (with my PBH, the recommendation is 48 or 
 51-- I went with 48), as I wanted a drop-bar. Albatross is fine on it, but 
 I could probably use a longer stem. Bullmoose is good, but I think the head 
 tube is higher than I want. 

 My favorites are moustache and noodles for this bike. But I swap bars 
 somewhat regularly, because it's almost like having 4 different bikes. 

 Some pics of the different set ups: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157644332271299

 Happy riding!
 Shoji



 On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:38:03 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:

 my hunq had albatross bars and a 11cm tallux for most of it's life. for 
 most normal day riding, i was very happy with that even though i mostly 
 found my hands sliding forward to the curves, kinda sitting on top of the 
 brake clamps.  on a 1.5 week tour, this started to become quite 
 uncomfortable. separately, i couldnt find a comfortable place for my hands 
 on long, steep climbs. they wanted to go to the front of the bar, but the 
 downslope made that feel weird.  anyway, i got home, got curious, and put 
 on an albastache with 8cm dirt drop stem. so far so good. haven't done any 
 multi day rides yet where they will truly reveal themselves, but the 
 albastache are great/comfortable/uprightish with still some forward lean 
 capability for the 10 mile rides ive been doing.  

 also, ill come out and say that i think mustache style bars look great, 
 and ill admit that i kept the albatross cockpit fully intact for 
 re-plugging in, because it truly was an almost always perfect set up that 
 im not yet fully convinced i have improved on. 



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[RBW] Re: FS: mustache cockpit-nitto bars/dirt drop, shimano bar ends/levers

2015-07-09 Thread drew
bump and price reduction to 175$ shipped

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[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread reynoldslugs
The Sun XCD front derailleur works well for the wide-range front double.  I 
am using that setup on my Heron 650B:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/13018667345/in/album-72157642068014924/

Works great.

Max

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Re: [RBW] Seattle-to-Portland this weekend?

2015-07-09 Thread Andy Williams
Good to know that there will be a couple of fellow travelers on the route. 
 I'm well aware of the potential for carnage and cluster*!$$#@@# at the 
beginning of the route, as well as the examples of bad behavior and poor 
manners all the way to Portland.

When I ride STP, I wonder why I do it.   When I don't, I miss it.   Go 
figure.

Andy




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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread BenG
Thinking harder for Bill brought to mind an old Reader story about a man for 
whom a Super Duty fork and frame facilitated a life-saving lifestyle change. 
Maybe this crown goes that way?  Maybe that's Buffalo talk?
Ben

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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I've set up my Hunqapillar with all of 'em:
Noodles (48cm, 10-cm stem)
Albatross (12-cm stem)
Bullmoose
Moustache (7-cm stem)

I use cable splitters for quick changes of handlebars. Takes ~10 min to 
swap from one to another. (Takashi, who's also on this group with a 
Hunqapillar, is also a bar swapper. I think he uses down-tube shifters, 
which would vastly simplify swapping.)

I chose a smaller Hunqapillar (with my PBH, the recommendation is 48 or 
51-- I went with 48), as I wanted a drop-bar. Albatross is fine on it, but 
I could probably use a longer stem. Bullmoose is good, but I think the head 
tube is higher than I want. 

My favorites are moustache and noodles for this bike. But I swap bars 
somewhat regularly, because it's almost like having 4 different bikes. 

Some pics of the different set 
ups: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157644332271299

Happy riding!
Shoji



On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:38:03 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:

 my hunq had albatross bars and a 11cm tallux for most of it's life. for 
 most normal day riding, i was very happy with that even though i mostly 
 found my hands sliding forward to the curves, kinda sitting on top of the 
 brake clamps.  on a 1.5 week tour, this started to become quite 
 uncomfortable. separately, i couldnt find a comfortable place for my hands 
 on long, steep climbs. they wanted to go to the front of the bar, but the 
 downslope made that feel weird.  anyway, i got home, got curious, and put 
 on an albastache with 8cm dirt drop stem. so far so good. haven't done any 
 multi day rides yet where they will truly reveal themselves, but the 
 albastache are great/comfortable/uprightish with still some forward lean 
 capability for the 10 mile rides ive been doing.  

 also, ill come out and say that i think mustache style bars look great, 
 and ill admit that i kept the albatross cockpit fully intact for 
 re-plugging in, because it truly was an almost always perfect set up that 
 im not yet fully convinced i have improved on. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
How do you use/shift this?   1 by x with a granny?  Or do you use it like a 
real double?  

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From: Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:34:55 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI 
Compatible ??




On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:45:50 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 


Yes, that should present no problem. Double shifting isn't so picky, and the 
CX-70 should clear the frame (it's designed for smaller rings). 


Newer double STI shifters have additional cross-chain detents, for trimming. 
I don't know when / what product level Shimano incorporated these, though. 


A wide-low (aka ultracompact) double, paired with a wide range cassette, can 
produce a very usable gearing range. 

I'll say - here's the gear chart for my custom cassette 


For 700 X 35 / 35-622 tire with 170 mm cranks 
With Custom Sprocket(s) Cassette 
25  68.0 % 42 
29 23.4 39.3 
20.8 % 
24 28.3 47.5 
14.3 % 
21 32.3 54.3 
16.7 % 
18 37.7 63.4 
12.5 % 
16 42.5 71.3 
6.7 % 
15 45.3 76.1 
7.1 % 
14 48.5 81.5 
7.7 % 
13 52.3 87.8 
8.3 % 
12 56.6 95.1 












Best of luck, 
Tim 



On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:03 PM, RDS  satt...@gmail.com  wrote: 



Any idea if Shimano Double STI Shifters (sora, tiagra) would be compatible with 
the CX70 FD with the Sugino wide/low double crank? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Avery E Wilson
I use mine as a 1x, with a bailout granny. Shift into it maybe a few times
a year.
On Jul 9, 2015 5:38 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 How do you use/shift this?   1 by x with a granny?  Or do you use it like
 a real double?

 - Original Message -
 From: Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:34:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI
 Compatible ??




 On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:45:50 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:


 Yes, that should present no problem. Double shifting isn't so picky, and
 the CX-70 should clear the frame (it's designed for smaller rings).


 Newer double STI shifters have additional cross-chain detents, for
 trimming. I don't know when / what product level Shimano incorporated
 these, though.


 A wide-low (aka ultracompact) double, paired with a wide range cassette,
 can produce a very usable gearing range.

 I'll say - here's the gear chart for my custom cassette


 For 700 X 35 / 35-622 tire with 170 mm cranks
 With Custom Sprocket(s) Cassette
 25  68.0 % 42
 29 23.4 39.3
 20.8 %
 24 28.3 47.5
 14.3 %
 21 32.3 54.3
 16.7 %
 18 37.7 63.4
 12.5 %
 16 42.5 71.3
 6.7 %
 15 45.3 76.1
 7.1 %
 14 48.5 81.5
 7.7 %
 13 52.3 87.8
 8.3 %
 12 56.6 95.1












 Best of luck,
 Tim



 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:03 PM, RDS  satt...@gmail.com  wrote:



 Any idea if Shimano Double STI Shifters (sora, tiagra) would be compatible
 with the CX70 FD with the Sugino wide/low double crank?

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[RBW] Re: Question about Imperial saddles

2015-07-09 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I've been told that the term for what I've done to that B67 is 'scooped'... And 
that it's fairly rare in the supposedly heavy duty sprung Brooks saddles.  It 
hasn't impacted comfort though, it fits 'like a glove!'

But I haven't done a ride over 20 miles with that saddle in a while either.  
Paired with albatross bars it just feels right.

I've put similar mileage on a Brooks flyer and not done nearly the amount of 
scooping. That flyer had much thicker feeling leather than the B67 though.  
Neither are as thick as the Rivet though.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc


On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 2:45:50 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Yes, that should present no problem.  Double shifting isn't so picky, and 
 the CX-70 should clear the frame (it's designed for smaller rings).

 Newer double STI shifters have additional cross-chain detents, for 
 trimming.  I don't know when / what product level Shimano incorporated 
 these, though.

 A wide-low (aka ultracompact) double, paired with a wide range cassette, 
 can produce a very usable gearing range.

 
I'll say - here's the gear chart for my custom cassette  

*For 700 X 35 / 35-622 tire with 170 mm cranks**With Custom Sprocket(s) 
Cassette*2568.0 %422923.439.320.8 %2428.347.514.3 %2132.354.316.7 %1837.7
63.412.5 %1642.571.36.7 %1545.376.17.1 %1448.581.57.7 %1352.387.88.3 %1256.6
95.1



 


 Best of luck,
 Tim

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 wrote:

 Any idea if Shimano Double STI Shifters (sora, tiagra) would be 
 compatible with the CX70 FD with the Sugino wide/low double crank?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
hi Steve, 
I use it mostly as a granny, and am most always on the 42T for pavement 
riding.  However, I have 14% grades to get to my house.  So I will shift to 
the 25T and use the full range for approach gears.  The range on the 25T 
also covers most off-road needs and keeps the RD up out of harms way.  

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:38:24 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 How do you use/shift this?   1 by x with a granny?  Or do you use it like 
 a real double?   

 - Original Message - 

 For 700 X 35 / 35-622 tire with 170 mm cranks 
 With Custom Sprocket(s) Cassette 
 25 68.0 % 42 
 29 23.4 39.3 
 20.8 % 
 24 28.3 47.5 
 14.3 % 
 21 32.3 54.3 
 16.7 % 
 18 37.7 63.4 
 12.5 % 
 16 42.5 71.3 
 6.7 % 
 15 45.3 76.1 
 7.1 % 
 14 48.5 81.5 
 7.7 % 
 13 52.3 87.8 
 8.3 % 
 12 56.6 95.1 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Feedback + Are Sugino Cranks STI Compatible ??

2015-07-09 Thread Ron Mc
ps, the 5 narrow gears 63-88 inches is where I live on pavement 

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 4:58:49 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

 hi Steve, 
 I use it mostly as a granny, and am most always on the 42T for pavement 
 riding.  However, I have 14% grades to get to my house.  So I will shift to 
 the 25T and use the full range for approach gears.  The range on the 25T 
 also covers most off-road needs and keeps the RD up out of harms way.  


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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Ginz
The big bike was called the Bison, right?  Buffalo could be this tall 
bike, maybe.

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[RBW] Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-09 Thread Joe Bernard
I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for a 
while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried years 
ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were 
44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with 
a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit 
long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 

Thanks,
Joe click click Bernard
Vallejo, CA. 

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Re: [RBW] Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-09 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
i have brifters on noodles...no problems

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[RBW] Re: Bars on the Hunqapillar

2015-07-09 Thread Liesl
Shoji! +1 on killing me with the maroon/ gray harlequin wrap on a bike that has 
my all fave stock paint job! Plus it's my size!

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[RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-09 Thread Call Me Jay
I have 46cm Noodles with Campy 10 Ergos on my Custom and it seems to fit me 
fine.  No complaints.

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:34:26 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10 
 years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for a 
 while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried years 
 ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were 
 44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with 
 a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit 
 long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup? 

 Thanks,
 Joe click click Bernard
 Vallejo, CA. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Brifters on Noodles?

2015-07-09 Thread Joe Bunik
Drop-bar 20-wheeled bikes are a blast... especially when a 46cm
noodle is involved! 48 should work too, but I've found as I widen my
bar, I prefer a little less stem (e.g. 1cm shorter than w/ 46 or gasp,
44).
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA


On 7/9/15, Call Me Jay callmehamt...@mac.com wrote:
 I have 46cm Noodles with Campy 10 Ergos on my Custom and it seems to fit me

 fine.  No complaints.

 On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 7:34:26 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I picked up a Bike Friday a few weeks ago, my first dropbar bike in 10
 years. I'm liking the Shimano Sora brifters enough to stick with them for
 a
 while (a vast improvement over the first-gen 9-speed Ultegras I tried
 years
 ago), but the 42cm Salsa bars just ain't cuttin' it. My last dropbars were

 44cm Noodles, which I loved. My concern is that being slightly wider, with

 a long ramp, might make the reach to pushing those shifters sideways a bit

 long. Does anyone here have experience with this setup?

 Thanks,
 Joe click click Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.


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[RBW] Re: Didn't see that coming... Segmented Cast Fork Crown on BLUG

2015-07-09 Thread Johnny Alien
I am pretty sure that another company took over that Bison project and saw 
it to completion.

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 6:52:18 PM UTC-4, EGNolan wrote:

 When they teased a while back, I had no idea what part it would be, but 
 didn't dream of this beauty... http://rivbike.tumblr.com


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