[RBW] Re: FS Nitto 10cm Dirtdrop stem
Dirtdrop stem is sold On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 5:31:26 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote: FS Nitto 10cm Dirtdrop stem in excellent condition PayPal $50 shipped CONUS contact off-line Thanks, Bruce in San Diego -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Reservoir ride-fish-ride
That looks like a most fantastic day, Patrick. Scenery reminds me of my California days and trips to lassen. But where's a photo of the tastee fish? In Minnesota ya gotta get the fish shot! (; -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I am back
Welcome back Compton! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:32:56 PM UTC-6, Don Compton wrote: I have made some impulsive mistakes in my life, thank God none have been life threatening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Just Ride
Patrick, you must be a cyclist but do you wear Peter Pan tights? (; -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I am back
Chris, I remember when you had this butterscotch Hilsen. God, it was a beautiful bike. Don On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote: Great news, Don! I think I know a little about how you feel. I'm riding around on my recovery A. Homer Hilsen...after foolishly selling the first one. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: I am back
Deacon, Long story. After years of enjoying Brooks saddles, the hump that develops after longterm, my nether regions just couldn't stand it anymore. I have short femurs and I couldn't find another saddle that would work on my Roadeo. Well, the latest Selle Anatomica allows me to get the saddle forward enough to meet my fit. On another subject, the guys and gals at Riv are the BEST. Just wonderful people. On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:58:50 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Welcome back Compton! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 8:32:56 PM UTC-6, Don Compton wrote: I have made some impulsive mistakes in my life, thank God none have been life threatening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
While the pro races eliminated the consequence of equipment and team cars full of spares, I became appreciative of early MTB racing because of the overt responsibility of the rider to deal with whatever happened to their bike as a consequence of their riding or equipment selection. It was more like my experience as an individual rider. Why I enjoy reading about the technical trials and appreciate the advancements of the bike and its parts by such. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 3:07:53 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote: Yeah, and people are criticizing Nibali's choice for attaching the group at that time. I have never raced anything in my life, but am fond of the idea of the technical trial described by Jan Heine in the past. I feel like the pro-bicycle race should have a much stronger element of technical trial--kind of like formula one racing, where bicycle design and setup should be a big component of the competition. A mechanical or crash is a testament of a rider or a team's choice--most of the time at least, and that should be part of the whole package. I was disappointed that none of the other big favorites went with Nibali when Froome had the slight mechanical. If they had gone with him, it would have been much harder for Froome to latch back on since he only had one teammate left, and the rest of them can collaborate for the rest of the way to eek out a big advantage, perhaps even unseating froome. That would have been so much more exciting! Franklyn On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 10:51:01 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: I was in the UK when TdF began, so I became accustomed to watching it live in the afternoon. When we returned nearly 2 weeks ago, I bought the NBC app and have been enjoying the Tour. I'm not a big racing fan, but I like Froome and especially Nario Quintana and am rooting for a Latin American champion. Quintana certainly looks more like a healthy human being than the other riders. Anyway, for those watching today (no spoiler on the outcome here), you may have seen Froome stop and get off the bike for a mechanical problem at a critical point. Here's the report from today's Telegraph: ...launched his attack after Froome suffered from a mechanical problem, whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel. Heh, the proverbial pebble caught in tight clearances!? Here's to plenty of clearances and Grant's wisdom :) -Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Something's not right here...
I always found that Suntour rear derailleurs had a very nice way of providing a way to set the big ring/small cog position, presuming you've selected rings and max cog sizes within a unit's specifications. It was an embossed dot on the outer cage side plate that was to be aligned with the mark on the cage spring housing, just across the plastic seal/bushing from the cage. B-screw adjustment would finalize the adjustment to optimize. Short cage on triples was an interesting MTB phase just before the MicroDrive (and Shimano's answer) kicked in. The overt marketing of requisite rider skill attracted many who didn't have it. Coffee and breakfast with a short cage XC Pro RD in front of the computer. Andy Cheatham PIttsburgh On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: two things to look at on optimizing chain length. On biggest ring and biggest cog, your RD should be forward no more than 45 degrees, if it's less, the chain's too short. On your smallest and smallest, the length of chain running between the two jockey wheels should be pointing no higher than horizontal, if it is, the chain is too long. There should be enough chain wrap on most long cage derailleurs to make this do-able. Something else, you're stretching the RD cage return spring farther than it was designed to go, and it may take a set. . On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:11:07 PM UTC-5, A. L Young wrote: On the Atlantis I was switching from downtube to bar end shifters (front derailer only) and did this during a test ride. http://flic.kr/p/w9Ntbb I swapped the cassette a while back. New one has a higher-toothed low gear. I guess I forgot to resize the chain length. After the addition of a link I can happily if awkwardly ride again in the big-big combo. :) Aaron Awkward and Happy Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto, Silver, Schwalbe
Noodles and Silver shifters are sold. Oh, and prices are plus shipping. My apologies for not adding that int he original post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] If these came in black ...
http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/006494.php Under $70. Does anyone know the quality of the fabric and construction? From the photos, they look to be decently made (probably by disenfranchised dwarfs in foetid underground caverns in Madagascar. I mean the Hobbit type of dwarf, naturally.) I can pass on the weskit, bowtie, and cap, but the knickers are wonderfully cyclistic foppish. Patrick trying desperately to reconcile these with the canons of the Velominati Moore (who wonders if they'd look good with a Primal jersey). -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If these came in black ...
Damn: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Teflon-Tweed-Breeks-Plus-2-Trouser-Cotton-Lined-Shooting-Hunting-Riding-Beating/191252123355?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20141212152715%26meid%3D3738ff27857541f39beb232c6d0881a6%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D23%26sd%3D171787171757 I own 5 pairs of cycling knickers, 2 in dark grey wool, 2 in very nice black nylon canvas, and 1 lightweight in heather/olive hemp, but if these were dark grey or black ... On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/006494.php Under $70. Does anyone know the quality of the fabric and construction? From the photos, they look to be decently made (probably by disenfranchised dwarfs in foetid underground caverns in Madagascar. I mean the Hobbit type of dwarf, naturally.) I can pass on the weskit, bowtie, and cap, but the knickers are wonderfully cyclistic foppish. Patrick trying desperately to reconcile these with the canons of the Velominati Moore (who wonders if they'd look good with a Primal jersey). -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
Wow that picture is amazing. On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.klimgeiten.nl/images/historie/jaren/2013/16jun2013-3.jpg Who wouldn't love to ride this ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Big Ben Tires - 26x2.35 Pair
These are the slightly fatter version of the ones that Riv sells. 26x2.35 - Raceguard Performance Line. $55 plus shipping for a PAIR. Contact off list if you can. Thanks, David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS Nitto M18 front rack
Rack is sold. On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 9:31:03 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote: I'll grab that! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
Liesl, Your verse makes a so valid point Just a pebble put froome out of joint! For a ride more fine-ah We should teach him some Heine Then to the podium he'll be annoint...ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Something's not right here...
Nah, everything's fine now after adding an extra link to the chain. I don't ride in big-big or small-small combos, so I'm not concerned about this happening again. I shared this mostly to laugh at myself a bit and as a reminder to check chain length after swapping out drive train parts. Cheers! Aaron Young The Dalles, OR On Saturday, July 25, 2015, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Have you eyeballed your rear alignment? I did something similar on an old MTB and bent the rear-end so much that I had to trash the bike. The frame builder I took it to said the entire rear was displaced to the side by 2.5 or something like that and the chainstays themselves were bent beyond repair. On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:11:07 PM UTC-5, A. L Young wrote: On the Atlantis I was switching from downtube to bar end shifters (front derailer only) and did this during a test ride. http://flic.kr/p/w9Ntbb I swapped the cassette a while back. New one has a higher-toothed low gear. I guess I forgot to resize the chain length. After the addition of a link I can happily if awkwardly ride again in the big-big combo. :) Aaron Awkward and Happy Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS 59cm Bleriot
Big Bump!!! I'm throwing in a second set of velocity synergy rims ( laced by Rich). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
Here's a neat story about that particular climb, http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/fan-less-lacets-climb-weird-in-the-tour-de-france_379366 On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote: I saw that shot on tv and felt the urge to pack the bike and go ride that climb. Some of the descents have looked grand this year too. Not to burst any bubbles, but Froome said the rock was stuck between the brake and wheel, not his frame. jim m wc ca On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:36:46 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: http://www.klimgeiten.nl/images/historie/jaren/2013/16jun2013-3.jpg Who wouldn't love to ride this ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More Sam Love--and do you ride your Riv through winter?
Here's my rivendell getting me to work last winter. It fits large studded tires. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--BJtLhhEIhs/VbO7A6itUYI/BlI/dPHLoaCYTSc/s1600/image1.JPG On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 9:08:36 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote: I didn't want to hijack a thread so I figured I would start another. I bought one of the last Sage Sams. Hot damn I'm glad I did. I've ridden lots of bikes and have access to lots of cool bikes but man this one is special. Of all the Riv's I've ridden and I've seen this is just by far my favorite. It's so perfectly--well I don't know--neutral. I have ridden it every day and lots o miles in the past month. Only bike I have ridden. It's a super typical nothing special build. Velocity Synergy (which I hate-anything better?) Deore LX hubs rear der blah blah. The 9 speed Microshift Thumbies are the best and I really like the Surly Knard tires as jack of all trade type. Actually I really love them they are nothing special but good at lots o things and not crazy expensive. But alas--do you ride it through the winter? Not California winters. More like nasty rust belt Cleveland winters with salt and brine and crap everywhere and tons o snow. I normally just ride a different beater every winter and junk it--but man I don't want to stop riding the Sam. I ride a lot in the winter too so I'm usually thinking about it. I really don't care about scratches paint chips bits o rust--can always repaint it I guess. Just curious how you handle the really bad stuff--but not give up that Magic Riv Ride. Attached is a picture. I stink and pictures and computer stuff so I hope it shows up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
I saw that shot on tv and felt the urge to pack the bike and go ride that climb. Some of the descents have looked grand this year too. Not to burst any bubbles, but Froome said the rock was stuck between the brake and wheel, not his frame. jim m wc ca On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:36:46 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: http://www.klimgeiten.nl/images/historie/jaren/2013/16jun2013-3.jpg Who wouldn't love to ride this ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What are the diffs between SRAM 8 speed chain models?
Yes, all 3 have 114 links and the spacing and width's are identical. FWIW, KMC chains are 116 links for anyone who may need more . I've never used them myself, they have so many models and 2 types of missing links and misprinted info released as to their spacing (some 7.1, some 7.3) that I just keep using SRAMS . I've used them since they were Sedis . I've never had one issue with them in decades of riding . On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 4:43:34 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: But the link length and widths are the same? Pin/plate spacing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: More Sam Love--and do you ride your Riv through winter?
Love that picture! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
I find Race the Divide, the Stagecoach 400, Leadville type events more interesting than TdF. The 12 year olds would probably be more interesting than the Super Bowl as well :-) Super Bowl Sunday = best day to go ride a bike without cars out! On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Peter Adler divisi@gmail.com wrote: I believe that's called Eroica (add prefixes, suffixes and locations as necessary). I'm guessing no TV network is interested in paying for broadcasting rights for that. We should probably also consider the fact that for professional bicycle racers (and the teams/crews/sponsors that are components of professional bicycle racing), riding bicycles is a job, not a hobby. The pros will ride on whatever equipment the sponsors buy them, according to whatever rules are in place; most of them have few other talents to sell. If the rules were rewritten to require all riders in the Tour/Giro/Vuelta to ride Eroica-style (one steel bike only, no teams, carry your own spares and fill your own bidons at the water fountain), you'd still get riders. You'd get a lot fewer of them, no TV time and the prize money would be a lot lower. Presumably, the times will slow way down, if only because an extended stage race without sponsors pumping money into it may demand more money to fill a rider with the calories necessary to finish than the purse pays out. I'm not deliberately trying to be a buzzkill about this retro-idea, which I admit I find very appealing. But there are reasons that big-time bike racing works the way it does, and it's fairly similar to most spectator sports. If the Super Bowl was played by chunky 12-year olds in blue jeans, nobody would watch it except the players' parents. I suppose that one way to distinguish between a professional athletic competition and a leisure event is to see which way the money goes; does the promoter pay the athletes for competing, or does the leisure participant pay the promoter for permission to participate? On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 11:11:37 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for bike races, but as Andy noted, noted, not team cars. Riders should have to finish on the bike they started with, repair their own flats, pick up food at neutral area. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS 59cm Bleriot
Dave -- Please contact me off-list at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net. Off-topic inquiry. Ray From: Dave Brandt pacificabra...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 12:31 PM Subject: [RBW] FS 59cm Bleriot Big Bump!!! Adding a second wheelset, also Velocity Synergy laced by Rich. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
Would have been something if they kept it open to spectators and instead closed it to team cars. I'm all for bike races, but as Andy noted, noted, not team cars. Riders should have to finish on the bike they started with, repair their own flats, pick up food at neutral area. On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a neat story about that particular climb, http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/fan-less-lacets-climb-weird-in-the-tour-de-france_379366 On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote: I saw that shot on tv and felt the urge to pack the bike and go ride that climb. Some of the descents have looked grand this year too. Not to burst any bubbles, but Froome said the rock was stuck between the brake and wheel, not his frame. jim m wc ca On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:36:46 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: http://www.klimgeiten.nl/images/historie/jaren/2013/16jun2013-3.jpg Who wouldn't love to ride this ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Just Ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47cGzu6-q40 Apology if you've seen it before. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
I believe that's called Eroica (add prefixes, suffixes and locations as necessary). I'm guessing no TV network is interested in paying for broadcasting rights for that. We should probably also consider the fact that for professional bicycle racers (and the teams/crews/sponsors that are components of professional bicycle racing), riding bicycles is a job, not a hobby. The pros will ride on whatever equipment the sponsors buy them, according to whatever rules are in place; most of them have few other talents to sell. If the rules were rewritten to require all riders in the Tour/Giro/Vuelta to ride Eroica-style (one steel bike only, no teams, carry your own spares and fill your own bidons at the water fountain), you'd still get riders. You'd get a lot fewer of them, no TV time and the prize money would be a lot lower. Presumably, the times will slow way down, if only because an extended stage race without sponsors pumping money into it may demand more money to fill a rider with the calories necessary to finish than the purse pays out. I'm not deliberately trying to be a buzzkill about this retro-idea, which I admit I find very appealing. But there are reasons that big-time bike racing works the way it does, and it's fairly similar to most spectator sports. If the Super Bowl was played by chunky 12-year olds in blue jeans, nobody would watch it except the players' parents. I suppose that one way to distinguish between a professional athletic competition and a leisure event is to see which way the money goes; does the promoter pay the athletes for competing, or does the leisure participant pay the promoter for permission to participate? On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 11:11:37 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm all for bike races, but as Andy noted, noted, not team cars. Riders should have to finish on the bike they started with, repair their own flats, pick up food at neutral area. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If these came in black ...
They say dry clean only hmmm ...Is that absolute or just a recommendation ? You know , who wouldn't love to have clothing custom made for you, any style , fit and fabric no limits !Stock clothing is just not cuttin' it for me , lol :-) I would love some custom made Gurkha-ish style shorts and knickers myself , they gotta have pleats , pants without pleats just don't feel right ! Years ago when Banana Republic sold safari type clothing they had pretty good ghurkha shorts and all sorts of stuff. Then they were phased it all out in the 90's . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
Me too . . . . . beam me and my bike up Scottie , France it is ! On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote: I saw that shot on tv and felt the urge to pack the bike and go ride that climb. Some of the descents have looked grand this year too. Not to burst any bubbles, but Froome said the rock was stuck between the brake and wheel, not his frame. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
Up or down? On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 1:36:46 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: http://www.klimgeiten.nl/images/historie/jaren/2013/16jun2013-3.jpg Who wouldn't love to ride this ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What are the diffs between SRAM 8 speed chain models?
What are the diffs, besides the price and colors, between the PC-830, 850, and 870 SRAM chains? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What are the diffs between SRAM 8 speed chain models?
As the scale ascends , lighter weight , cosmetic plating , but the core issue of being a reliable chain is constant . I usually buy the middle ones , now called the 850 . It's usually found for considerable lower $ than the top tier and not much more than the bottom. On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 3:15:01 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: What are the diffs, besides the price and colors, between the PC-830, 850, and 870 SRAM chains? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS 59cm Bleriot
Big Bump!!! Adding a second wheelset, also Velocity Synergy laced by Rich. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What are the diffs between SRAM 8 speed chain models?
But the link length and widths are the same? Pin/plate spacing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
That climb is just barely enough for one team car , let alone a rider . It was only 3.4 km and despite the looks, it's a very steady and not very steep climb . As far a teams and cars for support , been there done that as they say . That's how it used to be when the TDF started. Riders in fact could receive no support from anyone . That combined with primitive roads up and down mountains , it was as much a sport of survival as anything else . Now it's evolved to what it is, it is what it is .. . . lol ;-) I love this vintage pic . . . . . pouring what is likely oil on a riders chain . Then I noticed that guys legs . . . . . holy cow . . is that a cyclist or body builder ? ! http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tour-de-france-repairs.jpg On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 2:11:37 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Would have been something if they kept it open to spectators and instead closed it to team cars. I'm all for bike races, but as Andy noted, noted, not team cars. Riders should have to finish on the bike they started with, repair their own flats, pick up food at neutral area. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What are the diffs between SRAM 8 speed chain models?
As the scale ascends , lighter weight , cosmetic plating , but the core issue of being a reliable chain is constant . I usually buy the middle ones , now called the 850 . It's usually found for considerable lower $ than the top tier and not much more than the bottom. On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 3:15:01 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: What are the diffs, besides the price and colors, between the PC-830, 850, and 870 SRAM chains? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: May I introduce Yves...
That is one fine looking steed. Happy riding! On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 12:30:32 PM UTC-7, Larry Charlton wrote: So after lurking on the site for almost 18 months I finally pulled the trigger and bought a Rivendell of my own. I was on the hairy edge of simply purchasing a Sam new, especially when I saw the black and cream ones, when a 60cm Yves Gomez frame came up for sale in this group. First off...thank you David Karmishlian for being so easy to work with and for delivering the frame expertly boxed and padded. The transaction couldn't have been any easier. Two weeks after receiving the frame it's now a complete work. Well, there are racks, baskets, and bags to consider but it's RIDEABLE. And what a ride it is. I'd been a long-time recumbent cyclist and my first foray back to uprights had been a Long Haul Trucker. It's amazing how supple and responsive this Yves Gomez is -- even for a 225lb Clyde like myself. Pics are here: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0CG6XBubGcEe6T The build: H-barNitto AlbastacheStemNitto Dirt DropBrake leversTRP RRLBrakesTektro R559BBIRD QB55CrankSugino XD2 Wide/Low Front derailleurSun XCDFront derailleur clampSun XCD Rear derailleurSun XCDCassetteShimano 11-34 9 sp. ShiftersShimano Dura AceHubsShimano Deore LXRimsVelocity DyadTiresSchwalbe Marathon 700x38ChainKMC X9.93 116L SeatpostSoma Layback That's a start, at least. First time I've ever spec'd components myself so I hope I did okay. And comment and recommendations are welcome because I now know it won't be the last time. Off to a bike ride... Larry Charlton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Reservoir ride-fish-ride
Fantastic longer ride, heading out at 6am and returning home at 3pm. Likely 6 hours of that were riding. Climbed to Rampart Reservoir, met Joe, rode the trail 2/3rds the way around, climbed up and over the Stanley Reservoir, had a pipe, fished, had many sniff, a few bite, and one hooked — a 12” rainbow who was very tasty for a late lunch back at home! It sure was good to get out for a longer ride again after being in an extended brain pit. Here’s to hoping I don’t fall back in! https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157654012893374 With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: ...whereby a stone became caught up in his wheel
It looks to me in that pic that the rider is wearing loafers! On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: That climb is just barely enough for one team car , let alone a rider . It was only 3.4 km and despite the looks, it's a very steady and not very steep climb . As far a teams and cars for support , been there done that as they say . That's how it used to be when the TDF started. Riders in fact could receive no support from anyone . That combined with primitive roads up and down mountains , it was as much a sport of survival as anything else . Now it's evolved to what it is, it is what it is .. . . lol ;-) I love this vintage pic . . . . . pouring what is likely oil on a riders chain . Then I noticed that guys legs . . . . . holy cow . . is that a cyclist or body builder ? ! http://all-that-is-interesting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tour-de-france-repairs.jpg On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 2:11:37 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Would have been something if they kept it open to spectators and instead closed it to team cars. I'm all for bike races, but as Andy noted, noted, not team cars. Riders should have to finish on the bike they started with, repair their own flats, pick up food at neutral area. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] I am back
I have made some impulsive mistakes in my life, thank God none have been life threatening. I sold my Rambouillet and had to buy a Roadeo. For some reason, I got a bug up my ass and sold my Roadeo. BIG MISTAKE. Well, I again fixed my mistake and just took delivery of my second Roadeo. Same size, different color, same wonderful ride and handling. In addition, I have moved away from my beloved Campagnolo and am trying Shimano Ultergra 11 speed with a 50-34 crankset and an 11-32 cassette. Absolutely no regrets. My next move is to buy the lightweight Compass 700x32 tires. Heaven is awaiting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] I am back
Great news, Don! I think I know a little about how you feel. I'm riding around on my recovery A. Homer Hilsen...after foolishly selling the first one. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Something's not right here...
Have you eyeballed your rear alignment? I did something similar on an old MTB and bent the rear-end so much that I had to trash the bike. The frame builder I took it to said the entire rear was displaced to the side by 2.5 or something like that and the chainstays themselves were bent beyond repair. On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 4:11:07 PM UTC-5, A. L Young wrote: On the Atlantis I was switching from downtube to bar end shifters (front derailer only) and did this during a test ride. http://flic.kr/p/w9Ntbb I swapped the cassette a while back. New one has a higher-toothed low gear. I guess I forgot to resize the chain length. After the addition of a link I can happily if awkwardly ride again in the big-big combo. :) Aaron Awkward and Happy Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
