[RBW] Re: FS 54 Hunqapillar

[Deacon Patrick]

Congratulations!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 9:33:40 AM UTC-7, Miles wrote:
>
> I have recently found out that we have our first child on the way and in 
> preparation, this beautiful bike will be sold. Interested parties please 
> reply privately and I will offer details and we can discuss the price.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[cyclotourist]

That sand is rough going in the beginning. Even with good tires,
there's a technique to it. We thought about routing it in reverse, so
the sand is downhill at the end, but then everyone is tired by the
time they hit it. No easy way through it, just gotta' do it.

Glad you and Allen to come out for sure! Strada Rossa is around the
corner, and this is a bit of a warm-up for that (minus sand)!

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Richard Rios  wrote:
> Had a great time! Super nice group of people and lots of fun explorn' new to 
> me trails. Only wish I coulda hung in there a bit longer and finished up the 
> ride...maybe gone to low carb or maybe not riding enough. Either way I'm 
> looking forward to strada rossa. Thanks for putting such fun rides together.
>
> Sincerely,
> Richard
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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Hunqapillar

[Miles]

Much appreciated everyone.  To new adventure!

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Zed Martinez]

Here's a bunch (though still incomplete) of dates and issues for bikes from 
the Reader archive. I think I missed the Yves somewhere, and somewhere 
there's the San Marcos stuff.I'll re-skim for those later if someone else 
can't remember.

1994 (Reader 0)
-
Road (announced)
Mtb (announced)
All-Rounder (announced)

1995 (Reader 1-5)
-
Road (specs RR2)
Mtb (specs RR2)
All-Rounder (specs RR2)

1996 (Reader 6-8)
---
LongLow (announced RR8)
Cyclocross (announced RR8)

1997 (Reader 9-10)
---

1998 (Reader 11-14)


Heron Road (Announced RR11)
Heron Touring (Announced RR11)
Road Standard/LongLow made in California, Joe (RR11)

1999 (Reader 15-18)
--
All-Rounder, Match (RR14,15)
Atlantis (announced, RR18)

2000 (Reader 19-21)
--

Atlantis (arriving, RR19)

2001 (Reader 22-24)
--

Rambouillet (announced, RR23)
... (2002 expected, RR24)

2002 (Reader 25-28)
-
Romulus (announced, RR28)
Redwood (announced, RR28)

2003 (Reader 29-30)
--

2004 (Reader 31-34)

Quickbeam (announced, RR31)
Saluki (in development, RR32)
Glorius (in development, RR32)
Wilbury (in development, RR32)
Wilbury (RR34)
Glorius (RR34)

2005 (Reader 35-36)
---

2006 (Reader 37-38)
--
Bleriot (announced, RR37)
A. Homer Hilsen (announced, RR38)

2007 (Reader 39)
--

Legolas (shown, never announced? RR39)

2008 (Reader 40)


2009 (Reader 41-)
-
Bombadil (announced, RR41)
Sam Hillborn (announced, RR41)



On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:11:37 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:
>
> I'd love a thread that could end up with a list of models and the year 
> they were introduced (and last year produced if no longer).  Don't feel 
> like we've done that before.  (If so, just point me to the thread...)
>
> Here's fodder...
>
> Riv Road
> Riv All Arounder (?)
> Heron
> Atlantis
> Romulus
> Quickbeam
> Ramboulliet
> Saluki
> Wilbury/Glorious
> Homer 
> bleriot
> Sam
> bombadil
> Hunq
> Rodeo
> Simpleone
> Betty/Yves
> mystery bike
> cheviot
> clem/clementine
> joe appaloosa
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Fullylugged]

My Waterford Road (Reynolds 753) is 1995. It has a level TT and standard HT. I 
think the Road Standard followed in 1996 with a sloped TT and extended HT.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[David Yu Greenblatt]

Thank you so much, David E, for organizing such a fun ride with great
people, trails, weather, views, pizza, and beer.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskpoQ7LH

- David G in San Diego


On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> A long day in the dirt today! Was hopefully fun for all. Six locals,
> five MTBs, four Rivies. The soda machine at the ranger station was out
> of stock... worst part of the day!!!
>
> I hope the guys that came out had a good time, and rode some new and
> unexpected trails!
>
> I didn't take too many photos unfortunately, but pics to prove:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/albums/72157661109767341
>
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> > I think I'll be okay. Low grade stuff, just not optimum.
> > Hasta manana!
> >
> >
> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:07:35 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
> >>
> >> Hope you feel better !
> >>
> >> See you tomorrow unless things are postponed which would be
> >> understandable.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Good to hear, Arnold! Make sure you have some fat tires on that
> Atlantis!
> >>> I rode the sandy parts Wed, and they're not that bad. But that was w/
> 2.25"
> >>> tires to float on it.
> >>>
> >>> Bummer for me is I'm feeling kinda' sick. So planning on it all, but
> may
> >>> be rolling a bit slower than hoped for :(
> >>>
> >>> All day parking over @ Redlands Mall https://goo.gl/maps/udjPnVb4JFB2
> >>>
> >>> Bring a U-lock, and leave it downtown so you can lock up post-ride.
> >>>
> >>> See you tomorrow!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 12:38:38 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
> 
>  Hi
> 
>  First time poster here
> 
>  This sounds like a good ride and my Atlantis is Slimed and ready to go
> 
>  See you 0900 Saturday 11/14
> 
>  Arnold
> 
> 
>  On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> >
> > That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
> >
> > I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the
> > Redlands Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt,
> and it's
> > high quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked
> around some
> > ideas and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about
> five of the
> > 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you
> is the
> > same as 100% dirt!
> >
> > It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry
> > beach sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed
> singletrack
> > climbing. Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of
> goatheads.
> > Weather should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down
> the sandy
> > portions a bit.
> >
> > Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of
> Augie's
> > Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown.
> Bring a
> > U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish
> are right
> > by each other.
> >
> > Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless,
> liners
> > or all three, you will be walking home.
> >
> > Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
> > internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're
> slow,
> > we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Hunqapillar

[Will]

Don't do it... :-)

The Hunq is perfect (long top tube, sturdy frame) for one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/iBert-Safe-T-Front-Mounted-Bicycle/dp/B000H4E7EO



On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 10:33:40 AM UTC-6, Miles wrote:
>
> I have recently found out that we have our first child on the way and in 
> preparation, this beautiful bike will be sold. Interested parties please 
> reply privately and I will offer details and we can discuss the price.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Guess which one is mine...

[Eric Daume]

MAMIL = Middle Aged Men in Lycra.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, dstein  wrote:

> What is MAMIL?
>
> I feel like most of those bikes in that picture are aluminum hybrid bikes
> which is the bulk of what I see on BART and the ferry. I assume most people
> just walk into a bike store and get whatever they can for $500-$1000 (after
> they realize they can't get a bike for $200, like I did 15 years ago when I
> first started riding and getting into bikes. But even with the crabon
> crowd, it is all pretty generic black.
>
> I love going up Tunnel road (my main climbing route) and getting comments
> like that on my bike though. Last week I got a 'good job' that was said in
> a way that the guy couldn't believe I was on such an old, vintage bike with
> bags and made it to the top.
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[RBW] Re: The "new" triple on my Cheviot -- does the big ring look worn out to you?

[Ryan Ray]

I could be wrong but those appear to just be shifting aided.



On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 10:58:08 AM UTC-8, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>
> So, I'm pretty mad in general at the shop that "built" my Cheviot. Both 
> shifters were loose, one loose enough to fall out on the way home, the 
> tires are too big for the fenders, the wrong front derailleur was 
> installed, making shifting to the small ring nearly impossible. And the 
> front fender was installed incorrectly. I was more than a bit taken aback 
> by the warning "don't ride over any sticks." The headlight was also aimed 
> up so that it shined into 2nd floor windows on my ride home. I don't expect 
> perfection, but WTF? They tightened the shifters and replaced the FD.
>
> So, they offered to replace the too big tires and the fenders. Not letting 
> them near the fenders because Aaron's Bicycle Repair reinstalled the front 
> correctly. But I was looking at the cranks today because I have new pedals 
> and the big ring looks disturbingly worn to me. Am I wrong?
>
> So not cool. This is supposed to be a good shop. I hope I'm wrong, but I 
> don't think I am.
>

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[RBW] Re: The "new" triple on my Cheviot -- does the big ring look worn out to you?

[Lynne Cooney]

Good. I'm pretty underwhelmed by the shop. They have apologized and offered 
to make things right, so they are certainly not being jerks. 

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:52:04 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I could be wrong but those appear to just be shifting aided.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 10:58:08 AM UTC-8, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>>
>> So, I'm pretty mad in general at the shop that "built" my Cheviot. Both 
>> shifters were loose, one loose enough to fall out on the way home, the 
>> tires are too big for the fenders, the wrong front derailleur was 
>> installed, making shifting to the small ring nearly impossible. And the 
>> front fender was installed incorrectly. I was more than a bit taken aback 
>> by the warning "don't ride over any sticks." The headlight was also aimed 
>> up so that it shined into 2nd floor windows on my ride home. I don't expect 
>> perfection, but WTF? They tightened the shifters and replaced the FD.
>>
>> So, they offered to replace the too big tires and the fenders. Not 
>> letting them near the fenders because Aaron's Bicycle Repair reinstalled 
>> the front correctly. But I was looking at the cranks today because I have 
>> new pedals and the big ring looks disturbingly worn to me. Am I wrong?
>>
>> So not cool. This is supposed to be a good shop. I hope I'm wrong, but I 
>> don't think I am.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffeeneuring ride.

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Hugh,
Quite the adventure. You should get extra points for your eventful trek up 
those hills.
Thanks for sharing.
Jon


>>

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[RBW] Re: The "new" triple on my Cheviot -- does the big ring look worn out to you?

[Ryan Ray]

It's my favorite shop! But every small shop will have its ups and downs as 
they break in and lose mechanics. I live and work in the neighborhood and 
have done so for 6 years and will probably never leave. So even though I 
have friends at other shops I will count it as my LBS forever.

Those fenders are plain are stupid though. I don't blame the shop I blame 
Soma who were unlike the shop, were definitely jerks about it when I whined 
to them over email. Worth it to figure out the super strange pre-drilled 
front rack hole but if you are going to do something very strange like that 
at least mention it in some sort of instructions or something.

Oh well, as another shop owner in the neighborhood always says "the 
standard is that there is no standard".

As for the chainring it doesn't look worn to be (not an expert). Just have 
fun riding right now as the sun has finally broken out! I'm inside with a 
sleeping toddler :|

- Ryan



On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 1:08:24 PM UTC-8, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>
> Good. I'm pretty underwhelmed by the shop. They have apologized and 
> offered to make things right, so they are certainly not being jerks. 
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:52:04 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>> I could be wrong but those appear to just be shifting aided.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 10:58:08 AM UTC-8, Lynne Cooney wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I'm pretty mad in general at the shop that "built" my Cheviot. Both 
>>> shifters were loose, one loose enough to fall out on the way home, the 
>>> tires are too big for the fenders, the wrong front derailleur was 
>>> installed, making shifting to the small ring nearly impossible. And the 
>>> front fender was installed incorrectly. I was more than a bit taken aback 
>>> by the warning "don't ride over any sticks." The headlight was also aimed 
>>> up so that it shined into 2nd floor windows on my ride home. I don't expect 
>>> perfection, but WTF? They tightened the shifters and replaced the FD.
>>>
>>> So, they offered to replace the too big tires and the fenders. Not 
>>> letting them near the fenders because Aaron's Bicycle Repair reinstalled 
>>> the front correctly. But I was looking at the cranks today because I have 
>>> new pedals and the big ring looks disturbingly worn to me. Am I wrong?
>>>
>>> So not cool. This is supposed to be a good shop. I hope I'm wrong, but I 
>>> don't think I am.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[cyclotourist]

Love your pictures from the day, including my favorite, a group shot
before people started peeling off:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/65787090@N02/23028922722/in/album-72157661255314425/lightbox/
Nice Hunq placement there in the front, Richard!!! :-)

Jim W. must have just taken off before this was taken, he's the only
one missing.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:30 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
 wrote:
> Thank you so much, David E, for organizing such a fun ride with great
> people, trails, weather, views, pizza, and beer.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskpoQ7LH
>
> - David G in San Diego
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
>>
>> A long day in the dirt today! Was hopefully fun for all. Six locals,
>> five MTBs, four Rivies. The soda machine at the ranger station was out
>> of stock... worst part of the day!!!
>>
>> I hope the guys that came out had a good time, and rode some new and
>> unexpected trails!
>>
>> I didn't take too many photos unfortunately, but pics to prove:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/albums/72157661109767341
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> > I think I'll be okay. Low grade stuff, just not optimum.
>> > Hasta manana!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:07:35 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hope you feel better !
>> >>
>> >> See you tomorrow unless things are postponed which would be
>> >> understandable.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Good to hear, Arnold! Make sure you have some fat tires on that
>> >>> Atlantis!
>> >>> I rode the sandy parts Wed, and they're not that bad. But that was w/
>> >>> 2.25"
>> >>> tires to float on it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bummer for me is I'm feeling kinda' sick. So planning on it all, but
>> >>> may
>> >>> be rolling a bit slower than hoped for :(
>> >>>
>> >>> All day parking over @ Redlands Mall https://goo.gl/maps/udjPnVb4JFB2
>> >>>
>> >>> Bring a U-lock, and leave it downtown so you can lock up post-ride.
>> >>>
>> >>> See you tomorrow!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 12:38:38 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi
>> 
>>  First time poster here
>> 
>>  This sounds like a good ride and my Atlantis is Slimed and ready to
>>  go
>> 
>>  See you 0900 Saturday 11/14
>> 
>>  Arnold
>> 
>> 
>>  On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>> >
>> > I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the
>> > Redlands Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt,
>> > and it's
>> > high quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked
>> > around some
>> > ideas and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about five
>> > of the
>> > 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you
>> > is the
>> > same as 100% dirt!
>> >
>> > It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry
>> > beach sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed
>> > singletrack
>> > climbing. Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of
>> > goatheads.
>> > Weather should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down
>> > the sandy
>> > portions a bit.
>> >
>> > Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of
>> > Augie's
>> > Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown.
>> > Bring a
>> > U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish
>> > are right
>> > by each other.
>> >
>> > Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless,
>> > liners
>> > or all three, you will be walking home.
>> >
>> > Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
>> > internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're
>> > slow,
>> > we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
>> >
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[James Warren]

Thanks for the photos, David. And your new bike's bitchin'!

-Jim W.
Southern CA

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> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:30 AM, David Yu Greenblatt 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much, David E, for organizing such a fun ride with great people, 
> trails, weather, views, pizza, and beer. 
> 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskpoQ7LH
> 
> - David G in San Diego
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> A long day in the dirt today! Was hopefully fun for all. Six locals,
>> five MTBs, four Rivies. The soda machine at the ranger station was out
>> of stock... worst part of the day!!!
>> 
>> I hope the guys that came out had a good time, and rode some new and
>> unexpected trails!
>> 
>> I didn't take too many photos unfortunately, but pics to prove:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/albums/72157661109767341
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> > I think I'll be okay. Low grade stuff, just not optimum.
>> > Hasta manana!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:07:35 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hope you feel better !
>> >>
>> >> See you tomorrow unless things are postponed which would be
>> >> understandable.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Good to hear, Arnold! Make sure you have some fat tires on that Atlantis!
>> >>> I rode the sandy parts Wed, and they're not that bad. But that was w/ 
>> >>> 2.25"
>> >>> tires to float on it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bummer for me is I'm feeling kinda' sick. So planning on it all, but may
>> >>> be rolling a bit slower than hoped for :(
>> >>>
>> >>> All day parking over @ Redlands Mall https://goo.gl/maps/udjPnVb4JFB2
>> >>>
>> >>> Bring a U-lock, and leave it downtown so you can lock up post-ride.
>> >>>
>> >>> See you tomorrow!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 12:38:38 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi
>> 
>>  First time poster here
>> 
>>  This sounds like a good ride and my Atlantis is Slimed and ready to go
>> 
>>  See you 0900 Saturday 11/14
>> 
>>  Arnold
>> 
>> 
>>  On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>> >
>> > I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the
>> > Redlands Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt, and 
>> > it's
>> > high quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked around 
>> > some
>> > ideas and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about five 
>> > of the
>> > 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you is 
>> > the
>> > same as 100% dirt!
>> >
>> > It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry
>> > beach sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed singletrack
>> > climbing. Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of goatheads.
>> > Weather should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down the 
>> > sandy
>> > portions a bit.
>> >
>> > Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of Augie's
>> > Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown. 
>> > Bring a
>> > U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish are 
>> > right
>> > by each other.
>> >
>> > Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless, liners
>> > or all three, you will be walking home.
>> >
>> > Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
>> > internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're 
>> > slow,
>> > we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
>> >
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[RBW] Re: The "new" triple on my Cheviot -- does the big ring look worn out to you?

[Garth]

   It's normal Lynne .  The Sugion OEM rings as Ryan summised do have 
various shift "aids" that could be called "shavings" by some !  Yes, they 
may look a bit worn or even like a sharks fin from a glance. Their OEM 
rings are not like the standard(not high end Sugino, those and these are 
different) whose teeth are all uniform and "full" size.

I have multiple Sugino cranks with these rings and they all look like 
that. I first wondered why the teeth seemed to wear so quickly ! Then I 
realized it was the shaping of the teeth and not fast wear . 

   The shop realy has nothing to replace then , but they may put on a 
standard ring if they are not aware that all OEM Sugino's appear a bit 
"used" when they are not.  You can easily tell the diffenence between 
actual worn and used teeth and a brand new ring with the shift aids, that 
is if you look before you ride on them ! 

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Re: [RBW] LARCC

[cyclotourist]

Three outta four and bad... :)

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
> Those first three I can vouch as really great people. That last character,
> well shady comes to mind 8^)
>
> On Nov 15, 2015 2:45 PM, "cyclotourist"  wrote:
>>
>> Russ & Laura, John Prolly, and Hugh all in one spot!
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
>> > Hey Rivsters,
>> >
>> > Here's a new video that Russ & Laura of The Path Less Pedaled just
>> > posted.
>> > Gives some perspective on another aspect of the LA bike scene.
>> >
>> > LA River Camp Coffee.
>> >
>> > Enjoy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tail Winds,
>> >
>> > ~Hugh
>> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[cyclotourist]

Kickstands for the win!
Revisited the upper wash today on our tandem, couldn't imagine not having one!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/23057668711/in/photostream/lightbox/

I'm thinking a + sized lugged bike is exclusively in the realm of
customs at this point. But boy, do I have them on my mind!
A 29er/B+ capable bike would make me pretty happy! I'm also jonseing
for a B+ tandem at the moment.

I have bike issues...

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Richard Rios  wrote:
> One of the many benefits of a kickstand! I definately had tire envy that 
> bike was sweet! Do you think it would be to much to hope for a 27.5 / 29 plus 
> Rivendell. Lugs and plus sized tires count me in!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[dougP]

"I have bike issues.."

Yea, you're gonna need a bigger storage shed.

doug

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 3:11:18 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Kickstands for the win! 
> Revisited the upper wash today on our tandem, couldn't imagine not having 
> one! 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/23057668711/in/photostream/lightbox/
>  
>
> I'm thinking a + sized lugged bike is exclusively in the realm of 
> customs at this point. But boy, do I have them on my mind! 
> A 29er/B+ capable bike would make me pretty happy! I'm also jonseing 
> for a B+ tandem at the moment. 
>
> I have bike issues... 
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Richard Rios  > wrote: 
> > One of the many benefits of a kickstand! I definately had tire envy 
> that bike was sweet! Do you think it would be to much to hope for a 27.5 / 
> 29 plus Rivendell. Lugs and plus sized tires count me in! 
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Re: [RBW] LARCC

[Hugh Smitham]

Those first three I can vouch as really great people. That last character,
well shady comes to mind 8^)
On Nov 15, 2015 2:45 PM, "cyclotourist"  wrote:

> Russ & Laura, John Prolly, and Hugh all in one spot!
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
> > Hey Rivsters,
> >
> > Here's a new video that Russ & Laura of The Path Less Pedaled just
> posted.
> > Gives some perspective on another aspect of the LA bike scene.
> >
> > LA River Camp Coffee.
> >
> > Enjoy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tail Winds,
> >
> > ~Hugh
> >
> >
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Re: [RBW] LARCC

[Hugh Smitham]

Lol's Edwin...hey I have an F-150, artisnal bike cap and a beard cause it's
LA and were OG 8^)
On Nov 15, 2015 3:08 PM, "Edwin W"  wrote:

> Artisanal bike caps, beards of all variety, you sure that wasn't in
> Portland?
> Posted from F-150 country,
>
> Edwin in Nashville
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[RBW] Re: Guess which one is mine...

[KC]

Easy.  Yours is the beautiful bike.  My husband and I are usually passed by 
racers, head down, as we also meander along enjoying the scenery.  
Sometimes he speeds up to show them he can keep up (probably really can't 
for too long, though, but who cares).  The only time I see bikes like mine 
are when I'm with my family. But.
when I rolled my bike into a bike shop in Oceanside to buy a part, the guy 
who helped me was thrilled to see his first Rivendell and spent a half hour 
talking bikes and bringing his bike out to show us, and
when I watched over my bike waiting for lunch in the seaport village area 
of San Diego someone walked up and asked if he could take a picture of my 
bike cuz he rarely sees Rivendells where he lives 

We have a relative planning to buy a bike.  Pretty sure leaning towards a 
(used) carbon road bike.  I think that would be consistent with what he 
sees around him (besides the beach cruisers).  We asked him how he likes to 
ride and every answer he gave said he should have something riv-like.  He 
is a very value-oriented, long-term-thinking, careful purchaser (buys good 
high-end cars, used).  I made him borrow my copy of Just Ride and hope it 
helps him make a decision that works for him. 

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 8:10:08 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:

>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/22633062849/in/dateposted-public/
>
> This image struck me the other day as I was about to get off the train 
> from my evening commute.  Every bike (aside from mine) was black with one 
> dark blue exception.  There is the occasional steel bike but it's mostly a 
> sea of carbon and aluminum.  Sam tends to stand out (proudly I might add). 
>  I do receive the occasional, "Nice bike" or "That's in great shape for 
> such an old bike" but mostly no one appears interested.  It's mostly a 
> crabon-riding, MAMIL crowd.  I am not the least bit self-conscious about 
> this because I know that, upon exiting the train, I will end my day with a 
> delightful meander down the Alameda water channel to the wife and dogs in 
> our little bungalow in Niles.  It's always such a great way to wind down at 
> the end of even the most stressful workday.  I always end up happy by the 
> time I arrive home.
>
> Anyone else deal with this sort of fish out of water situation with their 
> Riv or is it just me and my commute?  Just curious.
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Christopher Murray]

The Bleriot was initially conceived as a travel bike. I assume this explains 
the airplane theme and name. This is way back in about 2001-2002 I am guessing. 
It was one or two lines in the reader.

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Patrick Kelly]

I made it to riv HQ yesterday, and I did see the prototype. It's a 52.

I was there to double check my size. I got a new PBH measurement of 86
instead of 87. I suspect I rounded up last time. I stood over a size
58 hillborne, and while it's theoretically possible for me, I'm
convinced it's too big for me. My original order of a 55 was correct.

The most entertaining part of the day was chatting with Grant about
the prototype. Apparently he was thinking it was a size 55 because
somebody else (don't remember who) that would normally ride a size 55
(same as Grant) had been riding it around a lot. Grant had been
puzzled because he felt that when he rode it, it was too small. After
measuring it and checking the actual size (to answer my "that's a size
52, right?" question), it all came clear to him that it was in fact
too small for him, because it's actually a size 52, and not a 55.

I rode an atlantis, the 1x9 hunqapillar, a clem and a large cheviot
(the medium was over at BBH). I spent most of my ride time on the 55
sam hillborne with albatross bars. I'm not one to notice subtleties of
bicycle behavior, so I cannot really say anything about any of them vs
the others. They all ride like bikes to me. :)  I can confirm that I
still don't like drop bars (mostly because of the brakes) and that I
was less excited about the bullmoose bar than I thought I would be.
Riding with the albatross bars, I'm thinking that I may actually be
very happy with the new bar on the joe appaloosa. If not, I'll
probably figure out how to put my jones h-bar on it, instead.

I was hoping to get more/better photos of the new bar, but Grant took
it out for a long ride. The shape of the new bar is a bit more
complicated than is obvious in the photos posted so far, and yes, it
has a slight drop. It looks really good to me. I was hoping to take it
for a short ride, even though it's the wrong size, just to check out
the bars, but that didn't happen.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
> I thought the bar looked like it had a little forward bend, and a slight
> drop. Does that seem right? Makes me think it was part of Grant's
> experimentation with a flipped Albatross bar over the summer, as seen in
> this Blug post:
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/125363801684/fun-wfriction-and-scroll-down-one-post-for-the
> David
> Chicago
>
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 12:03:27 PM UTC-6, ted wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the slow response, but I was out riding most of the day Sat. and
>> recovering the rest of it. I did make it up to RBW WHQ friday, but I didn't
>> ride the Joe so not much to report. It looked very nice and quite Sam H like
>> to me, except for the canti-post brakes. Of course it doesn't have the new
>> fork crown, and I think the stays on the production frames will be longer
>> so... The bars seem very cool. They bend foreword a bit before sweeping back
>> which I had not picked up from the pictures.
>> I hope you were able to go yourself on Sat.
>>
>> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:53:17 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>
>>> Ted,
>>>
>>> Did you make it up to Riv HQ to try the Joe?  Anything to report?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 9:21:39 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:

 Thinking of heading up there today myself. Given the blug and presale
 photos I assume they have at least one prototype JA there, though I don't
 think the prototypes have the fork crown and long chainstays that the
 production ones will have.

 On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 8:09:39 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if they have JA prototypes at HQ?  Was thinking about
> heading up there to check it out.
>
> John
>
> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray
> wrote:
>>
>> Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great
>> bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and 
>> order
>> one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!
>>
>> I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Chris
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[RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[AJ]

Thanks for a great day. Got to meet some fellow cyclists and see/ride new 
trails.
Looking forward to the Strada Rosa! (minus the sand is a big plus)

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>
> I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the Redlands 
> Strada Rossa  for a while 
> now. The RSR has about 50% dirt, and it's high quality stuff, but a lot of 
> asphalt connecting it. Kicked around some ideas and came up with this: 
> http://ridewithgps.com/  Only 
> about five of the 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can 
> explain to you is the same as 100% dirt!
>
> It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry beach 
> sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed singletrack climbing. 
> Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of goatheads. Weather 
> should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down the sandy 
> portions a bit.
>
> Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of Augie's 
> Coffee  in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza 
> Shoppe  also 
> downtown. Bring a U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as 
> start/finish are right by each other.
>
> Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless, liners or 
> all three, you will be walking home.
>
> Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and 
> internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're slow, 
> we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard! 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Hunqapillar

[KC]

I agree with them.  Babies don't have to cost that much.  They use 
everything for such a short time that it is usually easy to get the 
essential barely used for next to nothing or passed around among friends.  
And once you see how happy they are with cardboard boxes and kitchen 
utensils, you see you don't have to buy a lot of toys either.  Your bike, 
on the other hand, is a 30-year bike and that cost very little when 
amortized.  Best to just make sure your wife also has a nice bike so you 
can look forward to family outings before you know it.  And since you will 
need to keep your sanity as you enjoy every stage they go through, a bike 
can be a very handy outlet.  

My congratulations too.  Your life will never be the same and in only in 
the best way.
 

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> I have recently found out that we have our first child on the way and in 
> preparation, this beautiful bike will be sold. Interested parties please 
> reply privately and I will offer details and we can discuss the price.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a Waterford-built Allrounder that was built in late 1995 & delivered in 
Jan 1996. It was no where near the first Allrounder. 

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[RBW] Re: Guess which one is mine...

[Surlyprof]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamil


On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 8:10:08 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/22633062849/in/dateposted-public/
>
> This image struck me the other day as I was about to get off the train 
> from my evening commute.  Every bike (aside from mine) was black with one 
> dark blue exception.  There is the occasional steel bike but it's mostly a 
> sea of carbon and aluminum.  Sam tends to stand out (proudly I might add). 
>  I do receive the occasional, "Nice bike" or "That's in great shape for 
> such an old bike" but mostly no one appears interested.  It's mostly a 
> crabon-riding, MAMIL crowd.  I am not the least bit self-conscious about 
> this because I know that, upon exiting the train, I will end my day with a 
> delightful meander down the Alameda water channel to the wife and dogs in 
> our little bungalow in Niles.  It's always such a great way to wind down at 
> the end of even the most stressful workday.  I always end up happy by the 
> time I arrive home.
>
> Anyone else deal with this sort of fish out of water situation with their 
> Riv or is it just me and my commute?  Just curious.
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: LARCC

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug,

You are welcome.

I love that edition of bike camp kitchen.

It's a really nice group.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Nov 15, 2015 11:14 AM, "dougP"  wrote:

> Thanks Hugh.  Looks like a good group & an interesting scene.  Here's the
> combo bike & kitchen:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 10:31:29 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hey Rivsters,
>>
>> Here's a new video  that Russ & Laura of
>> The Path Less Pedaled just posted. Gives some perspective on another aspect
>> of the LA bike scene.
>>
>> LA River Camp Coffee.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[Richard Rios]

One of the many benefits of a kickstand! I definately had tire envy that bike 
was sweet! Do you think it would be to much to hope for a 27.5 / 29 plus 
Rivendell. Lugs and plus sized tires count me in!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[cyclotourist]

I think David's Waltworks can be credited to a November bump in fat-bike sales!
It was by far the most popular and appreciated bike there, with good reason!
Floated over the sand, bombed down the trails, and wasn't slowed down
any on the climbs. 3" is the new 2"

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 1:34 PM, James Warren  wrote:
> Thanks for the photos, David. And your new bike's bitchin'!
>
> -Jim W.
> Southern CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:30 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
>  wrote:
>
> Thank you so much, David E, for organizing such a fun ride with great
> people, trails, weather, views, pizza, and beer.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskpoQ7LH
>
> - David G in San Diego
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
>>
>> A long day in the dirt today! Was hopefully fun for all. Six locals,
>> five MTBs, four Rivies. The soda machine at the ranger station was out
>> of stock... worst part of the day!!!
>>
>> I hope the guys that came out had a good time, and rode some new and
>> unexpected trails!
>>
>> I didn't take too many photos unfortunately, but pics to prove:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/albums/72157661109767341
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:11 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> > I think I'll be okay. Low grade stuff, just not optimum.
>> > Hasta manana!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 3:07:35 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hope you feel better !
>> >>
>> >> See you tomorrow unless things are postponed which would be
>> >> understandable.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 1:05:17 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Good to hear, Arnold! Make sure you have some fat tires on that
>> >>> Atlantis!
>> >>> I rode the sandy parts Wed, and they're not that bad. But that was w/
>> >>> 2.25"
>> >>> tires to float on it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bummer for me is I'm feeling kinda' sick. So planning on it all, but
>> >>> may
>> >>> be rolling a bit slower than hoped for :(
>> >>>
>> >>> All day parking over @ Redlands Mall https://goo.gl/maps/udjPnVb4JFB2
>> >>>
>> >>> Bring a U-lock, and leave it downtown so you can lock up post-ride.
>> >>>
>> >>> See you tomorrow!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 12:38:38 PM UTC-8, AJ wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi
>> 
>>  First time poster here
>> 
>>  This sounds like a good ride and my Atlantis is Slimed and ready to
>>  go
>> 
>>  See you 0900 Saturday 11/14
>> 
>>  Arnold
>> 
>> 
>>  On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>> >
>> > I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the
>> > Redlands Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt,
>> > and it's
>> > high quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked
>> > around some
>> > ideas and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about five
>> > of the
>> > 38 miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you
>> > is the
>> > same as 100% dirt!
>> >
>> > It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry
>> > beach sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed
>> > singletrack
>> > climbing. Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of
>> > goatheads.
>> > Weather should be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down
>> > the sandy
>> > portions a bit.
>> >
>> > Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of
>> > Augie's
>> > Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown.
>> > Bring a
>> > U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish
>> > are right
>> > by each other.
>> >
>> > Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless,
>> > liners
>> > or all three, you will be walking home.
>> >
>> > Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
>> > internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're
>> > slow,
>> > we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
>> >
>
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[RBW] Re: LARCC

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Hugh,
Thanks for posting the video link.
It would be great to get something similar started in the Denver area!

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 11:31:29 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:

> Hey Rivsters,
>
> Here's a new video  that Russ & Laura of 
> The Path Less Pedaled just posted. Gives some perspective on another aspect 
> of the LA bike scene.
>
> LA River Camp Coffee.
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] LARCC

[cyclotourist]

Russ & Laura, John Prolly, and Hugh all in one spot!

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:31 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
> Hey Rivsters,
>
> Here's a new video that Russ & Laura of The Path Less Pedaled just posted.
> Gives some perspective on another aspect of the LA bike scene.
>
> LA River Camp Coffee.
>
> Enjoy.
>
>
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> ~Hugh
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I just went down in the man-cave and found my receipts. A first batch, green 
Quickbeam was delivered June2004. One of the late original Legolas (that had 
been for sale on the website for awhile) was delivered Aug2009.

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[RBW] FS: Swift Industries Rando bags and roll-top panniers

[johnb]

I am selling some truly lovely panniers that have a matching small Rando 
bag. They are waxed canvas which Swift is no longer using. They are tan 
canvas with maroon. The panniers were part of one of their early Christmas 
specials with high wheeler image on the flap. The Rando bag has a 
velo-orange attachment to the stem. It comes with the attachment.

Roll-top Panniers - http://builtbyswift.com/shop/roll-top-panniers/
Ozette handlebar bag - http://builtbyswift.com/shop/ozette-randonneur-bag/

The second Ozette bag is Navy with Royal Blue trim, yellow sides and front 
pocket and orange rear-facing pockets. This one has a Berthoud handlebar 
attachment

https://flic.kr/s/aHskocWKcT

I would like to sell the panniers and waxed canvas bag as a set.  I am 
asking $200 for the set plus shipping. They are truly practical collector's 
items.

The Navy handlebar bag is $125 plus shipping.


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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Zed Martinez]

I don't recall that. I just read through all of them this summer, and I 
don't remember anything about it before the introduction in Reader 37 
(2006), when Grant said earlier that year or late in 2005 he approached QBP 
about doing a Taiwan direct-to-dealers 650b bike based off the Saluki...

On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 9:19:30 PM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> The Bleriot was initially conceived as a travel bike. I assume this 
> explains the airplane theme and name. This is way back in about 2001-2002 I 
> am guessing. It was one or two lines in the reader.
>
> Chris
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: LARCC

[Hugh Smitham]

Jon,

I'm glad you like it. I think a group like this is absolutely doable in
Denver and other areas too.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Nov 15, 2015 2:20 PM, "Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado" <
row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hugh,
> Thanks for posting the video link.
> It would be great to get something similar started in the Denver area!
>
> On Sunday, November 15, 2015 at 11:31:29 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
>> Hey Rivsters,
>>
>> Here's a new video  that Russ & Laura of
>> The Path Less Pedaled just posted. Gives some perspective on another aspect
>> of the LA bike scene.
>>
>> LA River Camp Coffee.
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] LARCC

[Edwin W]

Artisanal bike caps, beards of all variety, you sure that wasn't in Portland?
Posted from F-150 country,

Edwin in Nashville

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[Zed Martinez]

OK, found a few more things I was missing from the really old archives. A 
lot of things after this list are somewhere in the Tumblr/Blug archive I 
know, I just read it this summer waiting on my Clem, but it's a PITA to 
search through trying to find specific things.

1994 (Reader 0)
-
Road (announced)
Mtb (announced)
All-Rounder (announced)

1995 (Reader 1-5)
-
Road (specs RR2)
Mtb (specs RR2)
All-Rounder (specs RR2)

1996 (Reader 6-8)
---
LongLow (announced RR8)
Cyclocross (announced RR8)

1997 (Reader 9-10)
---

1998 (Reader 11-14)


Heron Road (Announced RR11)
Heron Touring (Announced RR11)
Road Standard/LongLow made in California, Joe (RR11)

1999 (Reader 15-18)
--
All-Rounder, Match (RR14,15)
Atlantis (announced, RR18)

2000 (Reader 19-21)
--

Atlantis (arriving, RR19)

2001 (Reader 22-24)
--

Rambouillet (announced, RR23)
... (2002 expected, RR24)

2002 (Reader 25-28)
-
Romulus (announced, RR28)
Redwood (announced, RR28)

2003 (Reader 29-30)
--

2004 (Reader 31-34)

Quickbeam (announced, RR31)
Saluki (in development, RR32)
Glorius (in development, RR32)
Wilbury (in development, RR32)
Buffalo prototype (RR33)
Saluki (shown, RR33)
Wilbury (RR34)
Glorius (RR34)

2005 (Reader 35-36)
---

2006 (Reader 37-38)
--
Bleriot (announced, RR37)
A. Homer Hilsen (announced, RR38)

2007 (Reader 39)
--

Legolas (shown, never announced? RR39)
Bombadil (prototype, RR39)

2008 (Reader 40)


Betty Foy (in development, Peeking Through The Knothole July 27, 2008)
Betty Foy (prototype, PTTK Nov 29, 2008)

2009 (Reader 41)
-
Bombadil (announced, RR41)
Sam Hillborn (announced, RR41)

2010 (Reader 42)

Roadeo (announced, RR42)
Betty Foy (existed, RR42)
SimpleOne announced (Peeking Through The Knothole, Nov 19 & Dec 29, 2010)
San Marcos (announced, Riv news archive Jan 11, 2010)
... (prototypes, PTTK Oct 2, 2010)
Hunqapillar (announced, Riv news archive Jan 11,2010)

2012
-

Yves Gomez (existed, Harris Cyclery blog Dec 5, 2012)



On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:11:37 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:
>
> I'd love a thread that could end up with a list of models and the year 
> they were introduced (and last year produced if no longer).  Don't feel 
> like we've done that before.  (If so, just point me to the thread...)
>
> Here's fodder...
>
> Riv Road
> Riv All Arounder (?)
> Heron
> Atlantis
> Romulus
> Quickbeam
> Ramboulliet
> Saluki
> Wilbury/Glorious
> Homer 
> bleriot
> Sam
> bombadil
> Hunq
> Rodeo
> Simpleone
> Betty/Yves
> mystery bike
> cheviot
> clem/clementine
> joe appaloosa
>
>
>

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[RBW] Phil Wood, White Industries, Son 28

[Trevor saxton]

I am moving so am staring the process of selling off some inventory, this 
post will be updated as I go; 

Rear Wheel - 130 mm spacing, 650b pancenti rim White Industries Rear 32h 
hub with an 8sp SRAM cassette $200 usd including shipping to US and Canada, 
everything is in great shape bought used from a poster and rode for one 
ride. 

Phil Wood 7sp cassette hubset, 36h rear, 32h front hub, rear can be spaced 
at either 130mm or 135mm (spacer comes with).  Hubs are New Old Stock, 
never used Selling for $400Us includes shipping to US and Canada. 

Son 28 36h front hub Brand New - polished will sell for $250 including 
shipping to US and Canada (save on tax and shipping) 

Phil Wood Rivy Front Hub...Never used.  Will sell for $190 US including 
shipping (save on tax and shipping)

Will send photos upon request.  

Thanks 

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[RBW] Suggestions for dyno tail light wiring path on my Bleriot needed, please.

[Lungimsam]

Ps- I have Honjo fenders.

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[RBW] Suggestions for dyno tail light wiring path on my Bleriot needed, please.

[Lungimsam]

Suggestions for tail light wiring path on my Bleriot needed, please.

I have a hanging Edeluxe II on my front rack and figured that if I'm gonna use 
a fender light it might as well be powered from the headlight. I mean the hole 
for the tail light power hook up is just sitting there on the headlight unused. 
So better to power it by dyno than battery.

So any suggestions for safe wiring path? Just want to avoid the Schmidt wire 
ever getting caught up in wheels by accident.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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[RBW] FS wheel and hubs and more

[Trevor saxton]

I am moving so am staring the process of selling off some inventory, this 
post will be updated as I go; 

Rear Wheel - 130 mm spacing, 650b pancenti rim White Industries Rear 32h 
hub with an 8sp SRAM cassette $200 usd including shipping to US and Canada, 
everything is in great shape bought used from a poster and rode for one 
ride. 

Phil Wood 7sp cassette hubset, 36h rear, 32h front hub, rear can be spaced 
at either 130mm or 135mm (spacer comes with).  Hubs are New Old Stock, 
never used Selling for $400Us includes shipping to US and Canada. 

Son 28 36h front hub Brand New - polished will sell for $250 including 
shipping to US and Canada (save on tax and shipping) 

Will send photos upon request.  

Thanks 

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[RBW] FS - White Industris Rear Wheel/Phil Wood Hubs/Son Hub plus

[Trevor saxton]

I am moving so am staring the process of selling off some inventory, this 
post will be updated as I go; 

Rear Wheel - 130 mm spacing, 650b pancenti rim White Industries Rear 32h 
hub with an 8sp SRAM cassette $200 usd including shipping to US and Canada, 
everything is in great shape bought used from a poster and rode for one 
ride. 

Phil Wood 7sp cassette hubset, 36h rear, 32h front hub, rear can be spaced 
at either 130mm or 135mm (spacer comes with).  Hubs are New Old Stock, 
never used Selling for $400Us includes shipping to US and Canada. 

Son 28 36h front hub Brand New - polished will sell for $250 including 
shipping to US and Canada (save on tax and shipping) 

Will send photos upon request.  

Thanks 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Redlands Strada Sterrata - Saturday 11/14

[cyclotourist]

Strada Rossa will also have smoothies. Don't forget that!


On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:54 AM, AJ  wrote:
> Thanks for a great day. Got to meet some fellow cyclists and see/ride new
> trails.
> Looking forward to the Strada Rosa! (minus the sand is a big plus)
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 12:18:51 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> That's "dirt roads" in Italian according to The Google!
>>
>> I've wanted to put together a more dirt-oriented version of the Redlands
>> Strada Rossa for a while now. The RSR has about 50% dirt, and it's high
>> quality stuff, but a lot of asphalt connecting it. Kicked around some ideas
>> and came up with this: http://ridewithgps.com/ Only about five of the 38
>> miles are asphalt, which anyone in marketing can explain to you is the same
>> as 100% dirt!
>>
>> It includes all kinds of surfaces. Santa Ana River crossing on dry beach
>> sand. Sandy roads. Rocky flat-ish singletrack. Buffed singletrack climbing.
>> Fire road descents. Suburban sprawl roads. LOTS of goatheads. Weather should
>> be beautiful. Rain the last couple days packed down the sandy portions a
>> bit.
>>
>> Rolling at 9:00 on Saturday the 14th, leaving from in front of Augie's
>> Coffee in downtown. Finishes at Gourmet Pizza Shoppe also downtown. Bring a
>> U-lock and leave it downtown for when you get back as start/finish are right
>> by each other.
>>
>> Serious about the goatheads. If you don't have Slime, tubeless, liners or
>> all three, you will be walking home.
>>
>> Unlike the RSR, this is not an organized ride. Just some locals and
>> internet friends getting together to explore out in the hills. We're slow,
>> we meander, we like carbs. Feel free to jump aboard!
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[RBW] FS: Betty Foy 51CM frameset

[moshmosh]

 

For sale, 51cm Betty Foy frameset. Includes headset, bottom bracket, and 
seat post. In great condition, frame was built up and ridden less than 50 
miles. 

 

Selling to fund a 26” rig for my wife. She prefers the smaller wheel size 
over the 650B on the Betty. 


Asking $925/shipped.


Pictures are available here:

https://goo.gl/photos/2zKXbdd4JMAW4qpe6

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[RBW] FS: 62cm Rivendell Saluki (butterscotch)

[Rob]

Argh, I hate to do this, but...circumstances.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskoeejxJ

Frame: 62cm Rivendell Saluki (butterscotch)
Wheels: Hand built by G Cycles.
Rims: 650B 32H front, 36H rear Compass Cycles Gran Bois
Spokes: DT
Hubs: SON20 delux generator front, White Industries Mi5 rear with new 
bearings.
Skewers: Pitlocks with matching keys.
Tires: Compass Cycle Babyshoe Pass 42mm
Fenders: Gilles Berthoud Composite
Bottom Bracket: Phil
Crankset: TA Cyclotourist ProVis 5
Chainrings: TA 26-36-46
Pedals: MKS Grip Kings
Cassette: Rivendell IRC 8-spd 12-34
Chain: Connectix Stainless Steel
FD: Campagnolo Super Record
RD: XTR Rapid Rise
Brifters: Campagnolo Daytona 10-spd
Brakes: Paul Centerpulls (polished)
Brake pads: Koolstop
Handlebar: Compass Cycle 41cm Randonneur
Stem: Nitto Dirt Drop
Bell: Brass
Seatpost: Nitto S83
Seat: Berthoud Aspin (natural)
Seatbag: Berthoud 786 (grey) with Klickfix attachment.
Front Rack: Mark's Rack
Basket: Wald Medium
Front Light: SON Edelux I LED
Rear Light: Philips Saferide LED
Rear Rack: Nitto Big Rack (old style)
Kickstand: ClickStand.

This Saluki, #0159, was originally built up when new by Jeff Ferguson, and 
then owned by Ron Blumenthal for a year. I bought it from Ron in 2010. I 
have ridden it pretty much daily since then. 

Substantial renovation August 2015 included rebuilt wheels (new rims and 
spokes, renewing bearings on rear hub); new 36T chainring; new stainless 
chain; new cassette; new RD pulleys; new brake pads; and Phil factory 
rebuild of the bottom bracket. The bike has, for all intents and purposes, 
been re-newed. 

Still, there are a few caveats: There is one dent on the frame--on the 
downtube acquired in shipping from the East Coast when I bought the bike in 
2010. The cotton diamond wrap on the bars is due for replacement. The 
Ergopower brifters will need a rebuild in another year. 

This is a dream bike set up with what I think (and many agree) are the best 
performing, best looking and most durable components available. 

I'm asking $3,295, plus shipping from Seattle, for the bike as shown in the 
photos. 

Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] FS/FT: Tubus Tara Lowrider Front Rack

[Tim Wood]

Hey everyone,

I have a Tubus Tara, black, that I no longer need and wondering if there is any 
interest in the group. It's in good shape with only minor scuffing where the 
panniers attach. It's seen minimal use, maybe a total of 4 weeks of touring. 
$75 USD shipped to lower 48 and Canada. 

I would also entertain a trade for either a Nitto mini front rack, a silver 
surly front rack, or a Nitto big front rack (34f) and cash. Let me know if you 
are interested and I can send some photos. 

Tim

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Re: [RBW] FS: 62cm Rivendell Saluki (butterscotch)

[Mike Williams]

Hey Rob,  any any chance youd sell Frame/ fork only??Thanks.  -Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Rob  wrote:
> 
> Argh, I hate to do this, but...circumstances.
> 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskoeejxJ
> 
> Frame: 62cm Rivendell Saluki (butterscotch)
> Wheels: Hand built by G Cycles.
> Rims: 650B 32H front, 36H rear Compass Cycles Gran Bois
> Spokes: DT
> Hubs: SON20 delux generator front, White Industries Mi5 rear with new 
> bearings.
> Skewers: Pitlocks with matching keys.
> Tires: Compass Cycle Babyshoe Pass 42mm
> Fenders: Gilles Berthoud Composite
> Bottom Bracket: Phil
> Crankset: TA Cyclotourist ProVis 5
> Chainrings: TA 26-36-46
> Pedals: MKS Grip Kings
> Cassette: Rivendell IRC 8-spd 12-34
> Chain: Connectix Stainless Steel
> FD: Campagnolo Super Record
> RD: XTR Rapid Rise
> Brifters: Campagnolo Daytona 10-spd
> Brakes: Paul Centerpulls (polished)
> Brake pads: Koolstop
> Handlebar: Compass Cycle 41cm Randonneur
> Stem: Nitto Dirt Drop
> Bell: Brass
> Seatpost: Nitto S83
> Seat: Berthoud Aspin (natural)
> Seatbag: Berthoud 786 (grey) with Klickfix attachment.
> Front Rack: Mark's Rack
> Basket: Wald Medium
> Front Light: SON Edelux I LED
> Rear Light: Philips Saferide LED
> Rear Rack: Nitto Big Rack (old style)
> Kickstand: ClickStand.
> 
> This Saluki, #0159, was originally built up when new by Jeff Ferguson, and 
> then owned by Ron Blumenthal for a year. I bought it from Ron in 2010. I have 
> ridden it pretty much daily since then. 
> 
> Substantial renovation August 2015 included rebuilt wheels (new rims and 
> spokes, renewing bearings on rear hub); new 36T chainring; new stainless 
> chain; new cassette; new RD pulleys; new brake pads; and Phil factory rebuild 
> of the bottom bracket. The bike has, for all intents and purposes, been 
> re-newed. 
> 
> Still, there are a few caveats: There is one dent on the frame--on the 
> downtube acquired in shipping from the East Coast when I bought the bike in 
> 2010. The cotton diamond wrap on the bars is due for replacement. The 
> Ergopower brifters will need a rebuild in another year. 
> 
> This is a dream bike set up with what I think (and many agree) are the best 
> performing, best looking and most durable components available. 
> 
> I'm asking $3,295, plus shipping from Seattle, for the bike as shown in the 
> photos. 
> 
> Rob in Seattle
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[RBW] Re: Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on Bosco Bars?

[Marc Irwin]

I thought mine came with shims, at least that's what I used on my 
Hillborne.  I mounted them onto the Bullmoose Bosco's on my Hunq without 
shims or tape or anything beneath.  The are firm, but I can easily move 
them around as I need in the case that I am carrying something in the front 
basket when travelling.



Marc
On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 1:46:04 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:
>
> Sweet! Interruptors and Horns, a very nice cockpit for every riding 
> position and stance.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-8, jtallman wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I have them on my bosco bars. I just used some Newbaum's bar tape to take 
>> up the space and they have worked fine.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/e2PjbY
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:05:44 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:
>>>
>>> I was thinking of putting Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on my 
>>> Bosco Bars. Riv says that they don't fit Bosco's because the clamp diameter 
>>> of the bars is 22.2mm and the Interrupter levers are designed for a 
>>> 24.0 clamp diameter bars. But...really? Can't I just add a wrap or two of 
>>> friction tape to the bars before I put on the Tektro Brake RL720 
>>> Interrupter Levers? What about just putting them on over the bar wrap? (I 
>>> use shellacked Newbaums)
>>>
>>> Has anyone had success with the Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on 
>>> Bosco's? Are there other good interrupter levers that work with Bosco's?
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell models and year they were introduced?

[James Warren]

Very nice!

So 2004 was a "year that changed everything." That year brought:

- Full commitment to 650B by making frames for it
- The country bike (splitting difference between Atantis-tourer and "Road")
- Bikes made for centerpulls or extra-long clearance sidepulls (even though the 
Tektros and Silvers were still a couple years away)
- Commitment to good step-through frames

The company that was already synonymous with the term All-Rounder took that 
spirit a couple steps further in 2004. Closely related to that, Fun was on the 
grow too. Quickbeam!


-Jim W.
Southern CA


On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Zed Martinez wrote:

> Here's a bunch (though still incomplete) of dates and issues for bikes from 
> the Reader archive. I think I missed the Yves somewhere, and somewhere 
> there's the San Marcos stuff.I'll re-skim for those later if someone else 
> can't remember.
> 
> 1994 (Reader 0)
> -
> Road (announced)
> Mtb (announced)
> All-Rounder (announced)
> 
> 1995 (Reader 1-5)
> -
> Road (specs RR2)
> Mtb (specs RR2)
> All-Rounder (specs RR2)
> 
> 1996 (Reader 6-8)
> ---
> LongLow (announced RR8)
> Cyclocross (announced RR8)
> 
> 1997 (Reader 9-10)
> ---
> 
> 1998 (Reader 11-14)
> 
> 
> Heron Road (Announced RR11)
> Heron Touring (Announced RR11)
> Road Standard/LongLow made in California, Joe (RR11)
> 
> 1999 (Reader 15-18)
> --
> All-Rounder, Match (RR14,15)
> Atlantis (announced, RR18)
> 
> 2000 (Reader 19-21)
> --
> 
> Atlantis (arriving, RR19)
> 
> 2001 (Reader 22-24)
> --
> 
> Rambouillet (announced, RR23)
> ... (2002 expected, RR24)
> 
> 2002 (Reader 25-28)
> -
> Romulus (announced, RR28)
> Redwood (announced, RR28)
> 
> 2003 (Reader 29-30)
> --
> 
> 2004 (Reader 31-34)
> 
> Quickbeam (announced, RR31)
> Saluki (in development, RR32)
> Glorius (in development, RR32)
> Wilbury (in development, RR32)
> Wilbury (RR34)
> Glorius (RR34)
> 
> 2005 (Reader 35-36)
> ---
> 
> 2006 (Reader 37-38)
> --
> Bleriot (announced, RR37)
> A. Homer Hilsen (announced, RR38)
> 
> 2007 (Reader 39)
> --
> 
> Legolas (shown, never announced? RR39)
> 
> 2008 (Reader 40)
> 
> 
> 2009 (Reader 41-)
> -
> Bombadil (announced, RR41)
> Sam Hillborn (announced, RR41)
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 6:11:37 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:
> I'd love a thread that could end up with a list of models and the year they 
> were introduced (and last year produced if no longer).  Don't feel like we've 
> done that before.  (If so, just point me to the thread...)
> 
> Here's fodder...
> 
> Riv Road
> Riv All Arounder (?)
> Heron
> Atlantis
> Romulus
> Quickbeam
> Ramboulliet
> Saluki
> Wilbury/Glorious
> Homer 
> bleriot
> Sam
> bombadil
> Hunq
> Rodeo
> Simpleone
> Betty/Yves
> mystery bike
> cheviot
> clem/clementine
> joe appaloosa
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Guess which one is mine...

[dstein]

What is MAMIL?

I feel like most of those bikes in that picture are aluminum hybrid bikes 
which is the bulk of what I see on BART and the ferry. I assume most people 
just walk into a bike store and get whatever they can for $500-$1000 (after 
they realize they can't get a bike for $200, like I did 15 years ago when I 
first started riding and getting into bikes. But even with the crabon 
crowd, it is all pretty generic black. 

I love going up Tunnel road (my main climbing route) and getting comments 
like that on my bike though. Last week I got a 'good job' that was said in 
a way that the guy couldn't believe I was on such an old, vintage bike with 
bags and made it to the top. 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[ted]

Sorry for the slow response, but I was out riding most of the day Sat. and 
recovering the rest of it. I did make it up to RBW WHQ friday, but I didn't 
ride the Joe so not much to report. It looked very nice and quite Sam H 
like to me, except for the canti-post brakes. Of course it doesn't have the 
new fork crown, and I think the stays on the production frames will be 
longer so... The bars seem very cool. They bend foreword a bit before 
sweeping back which I had not picked up from the pictures.
I hope you were able to go yourself on Sat. 

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:53:17 PM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Ted,
>
> Did you make it up to Riv HQ to try the Joe?  Anything to report?
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 9:21:39 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>>
>> Thinking of heading up there today myself. Given the blug and presale 
>> photos I assume they have at least one prototype JA there, though I don't 
>> think the prototypes have the fork crown and long chainstays that the 
>> production ones will have.
>>
>> On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 8:09:39 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if they have JA prototypes at HQ?  Was thinking about 
>>> heading up there to check it out.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:42:09 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray 
>>> wrote:

 Looking over the Joe Appaloosa on the Blug and it looks like a great 
 bike. The pre-order price is a great deal. Anyone pull the trigger and 
 order one? I am guessing they won't last long- only 4 55cms left!!!

 I missed the Clem but am thinking seriously about this one.

 Cheers!
 Chris



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[RBW] LARCC

[hsmitham]

Hey Rivsters,

Here's a new video  that Russ & Laura of The 
Path Less Pedaled just posted. Gives some perspective on another aspect of 
the LA bike scene.

LA River Camp Coffee.

Enjoy.



Tail Winds,

~Hugh


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[RBW] Re: FS 54 Hunqapillar

[Deacon Patrick]

If it helps the budget at all, we've ended giving all the baby 
accoutrements like crib, changing table, highchair etc, to Goodwill as we 
found life much easier without them. We also find co-sleeping and nursing a 
great combination for getting sleep.

Perhaps there's less need to sell your Hunqapillar if you don't need the 
stuff they say you do? (I know, good luck convincing the new mom!) Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 9:33:40 AM UTC-7, Miles wrote:
>
> I have recently found out that we have our first child on the way and in 
> preparation, this beautiful bike will be sold. Interested parties please 
> reply privately and I will offer details and we can discuss the price.

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