Re: [RBW] Re: Back to the Drawing Board for Kid Bike

[cyclotourist]

Leah et al, I just came across this bike, and thought I would pass the
411 on: http://www.trailcraftcycles.com/products/aluminum-bike

Price is the only downside on it.

Kind of a cool story behind it:
http://www.trailcraftcycles.com/about-us and looks like they're
getting their money out of it: http://www.trailcraftcycles.com/blog

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Shoji Takahashi
 wrote:
> looks perfect! Tailwinds, shoji
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 7:22:23 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote:
>>
>> Awesome! He looks stoked!
>>
>> (Were I newly in possession of the World's Largest Derailleur, I would be,
>> too!)
>>
>> Jeff "Does That Thing Say 'Evinrude'?" Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
>> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 3:26:10 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>>>
>>> So, how does he look?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/2454076/in/album-72157661891945032/
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[RBW] FS: merino wool items

['joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

hi 
i am selling the following items:
-MUSA long sleeve merino wool t shirt in slate blue size large. i wore this 
a few times but i dont like the color. size large but fits tight. 45
-Merino Skins mens XL short sleeve 100% merino t-shirt. worn a couple 
times. 55
-Merino Skins mens XL long sleeve t-shirt.also worn only a couple of times. 
45
-Merino Skins mens L long johns. only worn a couple of times. 55
-MUSA railroad shirt L. this is from the original run, it looks like a 
chambray shirt. new never worn. i bought one and liked it so much i bought 
two more but i only alternated between two and never wore this one. i cant 
currently fit in this size so off if goes. these are really nice shirts.  90

all items have been through washer and dryer cycle( except railroad shirt 
its brand new), so expect them to have already shrunk as much as they 
normally would. the merino skins shirts and the musa shirt are cut tight 
fit like a jersey and not cut for overweight figures. long johns fit 
normal.  Railroad shirt fits normal.
all prices include shipping
feel free to ask questions and for pics
thanks
joe kelly
columbus ohio

 

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[BSWP]

I must have arrived at RBW just after you. I took a 62 Hunq out for a spin, 
it's quite different from my '98 LongLow, very stable and slow to tip. But 
I want to try a 62 Joe, too, when they're here for test rides. Those 
Choco-staches look like they would take a set of interrupter levers just 
fine.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:30:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
> then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022
>

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[RBW] How much can Betty handle?

[Mobile Bill]

Much to my surprise, my Betty Foy is becoming my most used bike on my 
commutings and travels about town. Love the Saluki and my 1988 Trek like 
the first day I got on em, and the Betty Foy sort of became mine by 
default. But boy, the Betty Foy is convenient for so many reasons that I 
didn't expect it to be. Maybe it's how easy it is to hop in and around the 
the mixte frame, maybe it's the Bosco bars I was smart enough to add, maybe 
it's the simple but effective front double, or the springy B67 saddle, or 
the fact that I can climb on it without the least regard for what I'm 
wearing or whether the pants legs will get grease on em, or the fact that 
it's got capacious baskets all over it. But when I need to get on a bike 
and get going and move stuff around, two thirds of the time I hop on the 
Betty.
Now here's the thing. I do much of my shopping on it. And today, I had 
the choice of loading up a 36 pound bag of dogfood -- along with beer and 
food -- or an 18 pound bag. Add 180 pounds or so of previously digested 
groceries, add this and that, and suddenly poor Betty is carting around 230 
or more pounds. I pondered what the impact of carrying that much weight 
would be on a mixte frame, particuarly over a dozen miles of cracked 
pavement, and without any data, chickened out and loaded up the 18 pound 
bag. I've loaded it up big before, and the bike felt a little wobbly, but 
really no more so than the Saluki when heavily loaded.
Did I unfairly prejudge the mixte frame? Has anyone ever ridden any 
Rivendell frames to excess?

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[RBW] Re: After RAGBRAI 2016 - Muscatine to Milwaukee WI

[dougP]

Bob:

I suggest you contact the Wisconsin Bike Federation to get their maps of 
the area you'll be traveling thru:

https://store.wisconsinbikefed.org/shop/bicycle-maps-set-of-four/

A few years ago some us rode SAGBRAW, up around Door County, then back to 
the Twin Cities, using these maps.  They are absolutely first rate.  The 
network of county roads is used and routes are selected for ease of riding 
& avoidance of traffic.  Interstates are show in half tones for orientation 
purposes.  The various rail-trails are shown.  It's pretty much everything 
a touring cyclist would want, and I've used a lot of different types of 
maps.  They're printed on waterproof stock and quite rugged.

Not doing RAGBRAI but wish you the best.

dougP

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 7:14:48 PM UTC-8, Statrixbob wrote:
>
> Aloha all!
>
> Now that that RAGBRAI 2016 route has been announced (
> http://ragbrai.com/2016-overnight-town-map/) I've got the rest of my 
> summer ride plans to consider.
>
> I'll be attending my 40th (ouch) high school reunion this summer and I 
> convinced the committee to hold it the weekend after RAGBRAI by telling 
> them I'd ride from the end of that ride to Shorewood. It's really only 
> about 260-300 (short to long depending) and I've got a week to do it so I'm 
> not really concerned, but...
>
> I thought I'd ask if anyone has any experience between Muscatine, IA (on 
> the Mississippi) and Milwaukee? Shorewood is across the street, literally, 
> from Milwaukee.
>
> Also if anyone here lives along the route and wants to come for a day, let 
> me know. It's a ways off yet.
>
> Here's a very, very tentative route (I haven't really researched the 
> actual roads, this is just Google)...
>
> Monday Muscatine Clinton 71.9 
> Tuesday Clinton Freeport 57 
> Wednesday Freeport Janesville 56.6 
> Thursday Janesville Fort Atkinson 39.5 
> Friday Fort Atkinson Shorewood 63.5 
> Total 288.5 
> Muscatine to Clinton is up the Mississippi so that's in. I also sort of 
> want to over night in Fort Atkinson just before the end because I'm hoping 
> Bill Camplin (a musician who lives there and runs a music venue) is in 
> town. I used to hear him a lot way back when and...well you know how that 
> goes.
>
> There's another route that goes through Madison and just adds a few (not 
> that many miles) and I'd consider that as well.
>
> Anyway, if anyone has thoughts on this, let me know.
>
> And, if anyone is doing RAGBRAI this year, let's chat!
>
> Aloha,
>
> Bob
>
> -- 
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> Honolulu, HI
> rfhar...@gmail.com 
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[RBW] FS Bleriot Update

[Eric Norris]

Potential buyer is coming tomorrow for a test ride. I’ll update the list with 
the results.

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[RBW] Re: How much can Betty handle?

[Deacon Patrick]

Bill,

(Someone check me if I'm wrong): The challenge with mixte is they are 
weakest with torque. This doesn't mean weak, but I could imagine that a 
high, rear load would tend to easily magnify the torque (my Hunq begins to 
feel this around 40 pounts on top of the rear rack -- on roads, on trails 
roughly 20) The challenge with a 36# bag of dog food is loading it. It has 
to go up top, in back. and it's a wide semi-loose load. I'd say try it at 
home and see. You'll know quick. Perhaps the solution is:

-- beer/food on top (if roughly 15-20 lbs)
-- (2) 18# bags on either side of the rear rack.
(This would likely be a max load. I've done 60-70 pounds on the Hunqapillar 
(on roads, not trails) and it's slower going.) Be sure to take corners slow 
and allow extra space for stopping and all that safety stuff.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 7:15:23 PM UTC-7, Mobile Bill wrote:
>
> Much to my surprise, my Betty Foy is becoming my most used bike on my 
> commutings and travels about town. Love the Saluki and my 1988 Trek like 
> the first day I got on em, and the Betty Foy sort of became mine by 
> default. But boy, the Betty Foy is convenient for so many reasons that I 
> didn't expect it to be. Maybe it's how easy it is to hop in and around the 
> the mixte frame, maybe it's the Bosco bars I was smart enough to add, maybe 
> it's the simple but effective front double, or the springy B67 saddle, or 
> the fact that I can climb on it without the least regard for what I'm 
> wearing or whether the pants legs will get grease on em, or the fact that 
> it's got capacious baskets all over it. But when I need to get on a bike 
> and get going and move stuff around, two thirds of the time I hop on the 
> Betty.
> Now here's the thing. I do much of my shopping on it. And today, I had 
> the choice of loading up a 36 pound bag of dogfood -- along with beer and 
> food -- or an 18 pound bag. Add 180 pounds or so of previously digested 
> groceries, add this and that, and suddenly poor Betty is carting around 230 
> or more pounds. I pondered what the impact of carrying that much weight 
> would be on a mixte frame, particuarly over a dozen miles of cracked 
> pavement, and without any data, chickened out and loaded up the 18 pound 
> bag. I've loaded it up big before, and the bike felt a little wobbly, but 
> really no more so than the Saluki when heavily loaded.
> Did I unfairly prejudge the mixte frame? Has anyone ever ridden 
> any Rivendell frames to excess?
>

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[RBW] After RAGBRAI 2016 - Muscatine to Milwaukee WI

[Robert F. Harrison]

Aloha all!

Now that that RAGBRAI 2016 route has been announced (
http://ragbrai.com/2016-overnight-town-map/) I've got the rest of my summer
ride plans to consider.

I'll be attending my 40th (ouch) high school reunion this summer and I
convinced the committee to hold it the weekend after RAGBRAI by telling
them I'd ride from the end of that ride to Shorewood. It's really only
about 260-300 (short to long depending) and I've got a week to do it so I'm
not really concerned, but...

I thought I'd ask if anyone has any experience between Muscatine, IA (on
the Mississippi) and Milwaukee? Shorewood is across the street, literally,
from Milwaukee.

Also if anyone here lives along the route and wants to come for a day, let
me know. It's a ways off yet.

Here's a very, very tentative route (I haven't really researched the actual
roads, this is just Google)...

Monday Muscatine Clinton 71.9
Tuesday Clinton Freeport 57
Wednesday Freeport Janesville 56.6
Thursday Janesville Fort Atkinson 39.5
Friday Fort Atkinson Shorewood 63.5
Total 288.5
Muscatine to Clinton is up the Mississippi so that's in. I also sort of
want to over night in Fort Atkinson just before the end because I'm hoping
Bill Camplin (a musician who lives there and runs a music venue) is in
town. I used to hear him a lot way back when and...well you know how that
goes.

There's another route that goes through Madison and just adds a few (not
that many miles) and I'd consider that as well.

Anyway, if anyone has thoughts on this, let me know.

And, if anyone is doing RAGBRAI this year, let's chat!

Aloha,

Bob

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statrix.com
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[RBW] FS: Park Tools PCS-12 Bench Mount Stand

[Johnny Alien]

I have owned this for about a year but am going to be moving where I work 
on bikes and where I am going a stand is easier.  Honestly this has not 
been used all that much in a year.  $75 shipped in the USA!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Bleriot $1,500 + Shipping

[Dave Johnston]

I have a 57cm and its a great bike. I bought it as a budget beater to 
supplement my "go fast" Ram, but rarely rode the Ram after I got the 
Bleriot.


Geometry: In case this helps anyone:




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Re: [RBW] Bump FS 59cm Roadeo f/f/hs/bb

[Rod Holland]

finally saw it... **blush**

looks like my progressive email blindness is progressing to forum posts...

rod

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:29 PM UTC-5, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> Thanks! Managed not to register the size in any of the prior posts...
>
> rod
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: Mother-in-Law

[Julian]

Your family sounds pretty great -- awesome kids, MIL, DH , and you -- the 
whole package -- yay for you all! 

It's great she's got a shop with an appreciative and supportive staff -- 
here that's not so likely in 2/3 of our shops.  When you go home perhaps 
you can stop in with a beverage (is that guy 21?) for the mechanic and 
gently show him how fenders and the Iris cage are supposed to be mounted! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 10:47:31 AM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> My mother-in-law got excited over my husband's new bike. New bike envy? 
> She plunked down her money and got one of John's Clementines. Then she 
> ordered a zillion accoutrements and this is the final product. The guy 
> pictured works at the shop. It is in northern MN and couldn't be cuter. 
> Look at those old wood floors! Anyway, you can see he was a little confused 
> about the bottle cage, but we'll fix that. And what is with that rear 
> fender line? A beautiful bike, nonetheless.
>
> She'll have to be content with opening her garage door and only visually 
> enjoying her bike. Spring seems so far away...
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/23933842624/in/album-72157661891945032/
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Bleriot $1,500 + Shipping

[islaysteve]

That's a beautiful Bleriot, Eric and a great deal for someone.  Best of 
luck.  Can you elaborate on the "official" nail polish?  I need some for my 
Bleriot.  Color/brand and how close a match is it?  Thanks so much, 
Steve


On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 11:18:56 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>
> It's a beauty! A good price and fine steed.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 7:44:59 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> As promised, here is my 57CM Bleriot. $1,500 almost exactly as shown (see 
>> below), plus $125 shipping to the CONUS. 
>>
>> Lots of photos here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/albums/72157663740551841 
>>
>> I purchased this bike about a year ago and set it up for randonneuring, 
>> planning to ride it on PBP. After that, an Alex Singer came into my life, 
>> and this bike didn’t get ridden much any more. 
>>
>> Monsieur Bleriot is in excellent condition. One or two very minor chips 
>> that have been carefully repaired with the “official” blue nail polish. 
>> Wheels are true and round, tires are very good.
>>
>> A few details—see the photos for more:
>>
>> —57cm size
>> —Shimano Deore drivetrain
>> —Velo Orange Grand Cru crankset 48/34, 175mm arms (picked because it 
>> looks like an old-school Stronglight)
>> —Brooks B68 saddle
>> —Nitto Noodle bars; Nitto stem
>> —Dia Compe center pull brakes with Kool Stop salmon pads
>> —Velo Orange two-bolt seat post
>> —Grand Bois 650Bx42 tires
>> —Velocity rims: Dyad read, Synergy front
>> —Shimano Deore LX dyno hub
>> —Schmidt Edeluxe headlight
>> —Sinewave USB port to recharge on the fly
>> —Longboard fenders, with PDW taillight and added reflective tape
>> —Velo Orange “Constructeur” rear rack with vintage reflector
>> —Velo Orange retro bottle cages
>> —Front Sackville bag with Nitto rack
>> —Chrome Silca pump
>> —“Official” Bleriot blue nail polish
>> —Topeak mount for GPS, camera, computer, etc. (gets cameras and clip-on 
>> headlights above the front bag)
>> —Japanese-made, stem-mounted bell
>>
>> Also includes a spare, non-dyno front wheel to match the rear (LX hub, 
>> Velocity Dyad rim).
>>
>> *Not* included are:
>>
>> —Pedals
>> —PBP medallion on the seatpost
>> —Magnic Light taillight (shown attached to the rear brake on the drive 
>> side)
>>
>> Available for additional cost:
>>
>> —One brand-new Grand Bois tire, NIP: Add $50
>>
>> If you don’t want some of the items, they can be deleted:
>>
>> —Handlebar bag and Nitto rack: Delete $125
>> —Saddle: Delete $50
>> —Spare front wheel: Delete $75
>> —Anything else: Let me know and let’s make a deal
>>
>> I can ship the bike, but local pickup in the Sacramento region is 
>> preferred.
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bump FS 59cm Roadeo f/f/hs/bb

[Ron Mc]

I would copy the original for sale post and give it a new thread with all 
the text amendments.  It is certain there are people wanting to buy a bike 
who are not reading this thread.  

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[RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[Justin August]

Manny-
Let's talk house hunting as teachers and the joys contained within...

-Justin, searching in the East Bay...

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[RBW] WTB: 700c wheelset, 126mm rear (maybe130)

[drew]

Looking to update an 84 trek, so I'm looking for a budget-ish 700c wheelset 
spaced at 126 in the rear, possibly 130. Cassette preferred but open to 
freewheel hubs if necessary.  Want to run tires in the 35-40mm range, so 
nothing too narrow.
Thanks!

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[RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[Manuel Acosta]

It's been a while. 
But with marriage and house looking. Bike photos becomes secondary.

Anyways. Breaking news!
When you get a week of rain, after a 5 year drought in California, the 
trails won't be dry.


Pictures proved that there was mudd and the ride was a sub10 miler:
https://flic.kr/s/aHskpTNyn1


Manny " Still alive and kicking" Acosta





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Re: [RBW] Wow. California gets mud.

[cyclotourist]

Nothing as nice as a green California winter!

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Justin August
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> Manny-
> Let's talk house hunting as teachers and the joys contained within...
>
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[RBW] Re: Mid-Atlantic 2016 Snow

[Lungimsam]

Cool shots and video Erl! Thanks for posting.
Haven't measured here but I would guess ~27" in Howard County, MD.

Alas, I'm trapped about a mile deep in an unplowed neighborhood. The county 
plow got stuck and never made it through. Hopefully tomorrow.

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[RBW] Seeking Alejandro

[Tom Virgil]

I was out on a mission today, seeking a homeless man in our "outback", such 
as it is, here, and ran into this situation.

Alejandro Land 

They are geese, right?  What kind of geese might they be?  They seem to be 
staying here for a week or so on their journey.

I have not found Alejandro, yet, but am following signs.  There was 
evidence of a recent fire on makeshift hearth within range of the debris 
area images and tracks of his oh so overladen cart.  I will be out tomorrow 
on Sam Hillborne seeking further.

There is a deep story to this (I think I have related it to Hugh).  In 
brief, Alejandro is a homeless man who has slipped through the cracks of 
both Mexican (in his native country) and US social services (here).  He 
lives out in the brush with a cart laden an awesome load of God knows what 
that is important to him.  Little or no English.  Diminished Spanish, 
although that is his native language.  Had he grown up here, I am sure 
there would be a label for him.  He has a mission every day to haul the 
cart several miles to a Ralph's market and then back again to the boonies. 
 Alejandro is defiant about not giving up his life choices.  People in the 
hood try to minister to him and get him into better circumstances, but that 
is not for him.  l am fortunate to live in what might be called "Pill 
Hill", and our DM (Doctor of Medicine) neighbors do the same as I, go out, 
find him, and treat him when necessary.

Sorry, no bike images (owe you all, Sam is just so coooL).  Got 
distracted by where Sam Hillborne takes me and has me doing.



~Tom




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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Bleriot $1,500 + Shipping

[Belopsky]

Oh my.
Whats your PBH?

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 10:44:59 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> As promised, here is my 57CM Bleriot. $1,500 almost exactly as shown (see 
> below), plus $125 shipping to the CONUS. 
>
> Lots of photos here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/albums/72157663740551841 
>
> I purchased this bike about a year ago and set it up for randonneuring, 
> planning to ride it on PBP. After that, an Alex Singer came into my life, 
> and this bike didn’t get ridden much any more. 
>
> Monsieur Bleriot is in excellent condition. One or two very minor chips 
> that have been carefully repaired with the “official” blue nail polish. 
> Wheels are true and round, tires are very good.
>
> A few details—see the photos for more:
>
> —57cm size
> —Shimano Deore drivetrain
> —Velo Orange Grand Cru crankset 48/34, 175mm arms (picked because it looks 
> like an old-school Stronglight)
> —Brooks B68 saddle
> —Nitto Noodle bars; Nitto stem
> —Dia Compe center pull brakes with Kool Stop salmon pads
> —Velo Orange two-bolt seat post
> —Grand Bois 650Bx42 tires
> —Velocity rims: Dyad read, Synergy front
> —Shimano Deore LX dyno hub
> —Schmidt Edeluxe headlight
> —Sinewave USB port to recharge on the fly
> —Longboard fenders, with PDW taillight and added reflective tape
> —Velo Orange “Constructeur” rear rack with vintage reflector
> —Velo Orange retro bottle cages
> —Front Sackville bag with Nitto rack
> —Chrome Silca pump
> —“Official” Bleriot blue nail polish
> —Topeak mount for GPS, camera, computer, etc. (gets cameras and clip-on 
> headlights above the front bag)
> —Japanese-made, stem-mounted bell
>
> Also includes a spare, non-dyno front wheel to match the rear (LX hub, 
> Velocity Dyad rim).
>
> *Not* included are:
>
> —Pedals
> —PBP medallion on the seatpost
> —Magnic Light taillight (shown attached to the rear brake on the drive 
> side)
>
> Available for additional cost:
>
> —One brand-new Grand Bois tire, NIP: Add $50
>
> If you don’t want some of the items, they can be deleted:
>
> —Handlebar bag and Nitto rack: Delete $125
> —Saddle: Delete $50
> —Spare front wheel: Delete $75
> —Anything else: Let me know and let’s make a deal
>
> I can ship the bike, but local pickup in the Sacramento region is 
> preferred.
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
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[RBW] Re: A Soma San Marcos (Amos) Build

[lucero]

Here's how this Amos looks after a few weeks of tinkering:









I raised the bars up nice and high and mounted Mark's rack with a medium 
Wald. In the original photoset you might have noticed a slight dip in the 
fender line below the fork crown. I opened up more front fender clearance 
by:

   - replacing the L-shaped fender mounting bracket with a fork crown daruma
   - swapping the Tektro R559 out for a Paul Racer

I'm happy with the results. Kudos to Box Dog Bikes for the help.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 7:33:52 AM UTC-8, lucero wrote:
>
> There aren't *too* many photos of Soma San Marcos builds online, so I 
> figured I'd post this as maybe I'll be doing a service to some curious 
> souls out there. Christmas pushed this Amos over the finish line and I 
> completed the build on New Year's Day. Photos: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY
>
> The frame is a 51 and fits my 80 PBH eerily perfectly. The ride is lively 
> and zippy, as expected, yet extremely confidence-inspiring in some way I 
> have yet to figure out. Maybe that's what the "sport touring" thing is all 
> about? Anyways, I don't weigh much and ride predominantly paved surfaces 
> here in San Francisco, but I can already see this San Marcos serving as an 
> excellent all-rounder. Will need to report back after some additional 
> fine-tuning (and perhaps a light tour / camping trip), but overall I'm 
> loving the ride and can't wait to put the bike to work.
>
> Parts: Velocity Atlas 650B wheelset, Schwalbe Marathon Greenguard 42 mm 
> tires, Sugino XD2 triple crankset, Shimano UN55 bottom bracket, MKS RMX 
> pedals, Shimano Claris derailleurs, Silver downtube friction shifters, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, FSA Duron X headset, Nitto Technomic stem, Nitto 
> Albatross bars, Tektro FL750 levers, Uno SP-248 seatpost, Brooks B17 
> Special Honey saddle, SKS P50 Longboard fenders, Crane brass bell, front (+ 
> medium Wald) and rear Nitto racks to be mounted soon.
>
> A note about the fenders/clearance: I had every intention of maxing out my 
> tire size on this bike, whether or not that meant I could run fenders, thus 
> the 42 mm Schwalbe Marathons. I'm not sure what they actually measure - 
> high 30s, maybe? Got to chatting with some folks at American Cyclery in SF, 
> who told me I should be able to run fenders just fine. Besides Rivendell 
> and maybe Soma, they would know best. No generous clearances to speak of, 
> but rear clearance is fine, front clearance is fine if not just a few mm 
> tighter. Doing great on asphalt, may not fare so well if you add mud to the 
> equation.
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[RBW] Re: FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

[RonaTD]

Somebody needs to buy this bike!  For those who are wondering about fit, 
here's what we published on the original Heron web site.

Sizing By Saddle Height
Saddle HeightHeron RoadHeron Touring
*66* 52 *won't fit*
*67* 52 53
*68* 52/54 53
*69* 54 53/55
*70* 54 54
*71* 54/56 55
*72* 56 55/57
*73* 56 57
*74* 56/58 57
*75* 58 57/59
*76* 58 59
*77* 58/60 59
*78* 60 59/61
*79* 60 61
*80* 60/62 61
*81* 62 61/63
*82* 62 63
*83* 62 63
*84* *won't fit* 63

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[RBW] Sunset in Morro Bay

[KC]

For several reasons, I hadn't ridden this bike for about 2 months.  Got to 
go to Morro Bay and really realized how much I enjoy riding it.  
Unfortunately we waited until our last night there to do this, but had so 
much fun.

sunset ride on the beach 

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Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[Patrick Kelly]

Patrick,

I'm not used to the bars yet. I feel most comfortable on them so far
with my hands placed farther forward. I'm OK with sitting up more, and
having my hands back. I think I'll have to spend more time before I
make a real decision about the bars. It is true that there are
multiple working positions. Definite bonus on that. I suspect I'll
move the brake levers and shifters more forward on my own bike.

I've been on a quest for The Perfect Handlebar for a while now. I
currently have a jones loop on my main bike, and was convinced it
would be perfect when I bought it, but, alas, it is not perfect. I
fear The Perfect Bar does not exist. :(

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 1:24 PM, sameness  wrote:
> Noted!
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:18:07 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> They are just below or even with the saddle. That's hardly "way up there"
>> on any Riv.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Mid-Atlantic 2016 Snow

[Deacon Patrick]

Awesome photos, Erl! Impressive sidewalls! When a plow comes (usually on 
remote dirt roads as that's what I ride), it's stop and stand at the side. 
They are stunningly considerate and slow down and angle their plow away 
from me or lift it entirely. Then I have easy going! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 2:27:08 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
> After shoveling out the cars and sidewalk, I attempted a ride.  The 
> studded tires provided great traction.  The snowplows entered my 
> neighborhood about the time I started my ride.  Not wanting to be a 
> nuisance or put myself or others in danger, I headed home.  Many streets 
> remain unplowed or only plowed on car width.  Once things settle down, I 
> look forward to more riding.
> Photos prove it snowed:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskpSr9fb
> Stay safe out there,
> Erl
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 9:36:30 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> I figured it would be fun to start a thread for those of us in the 
>> Mid-Atlantic area as we get to see whether or not this big blizzard 
>> actually show's up on Friday or not... and it'll be amusing for list 
>> members in area's of the country that get REAL snow all the time to hear 
>> about how we deal with it.  :)  If we actually end up with the 10-30" 
>> currently forecast for DC it'll make for some memorable pictures to share! 
>>
>> Today's commute home got a surprise flurry which snarled up traffic 
>> across the region.  Needless to say I was VERY happy I rode in today.  
>>
>>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> More photo's on flickr 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[Deacon Patrick]

Perhaps the perfect bar awaits us at the end of the pilgrimage! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 2:52:35 PM UTC-7, Patrick Kelly wrote:
>
>  I fear The Perfect Bar does not exist. :( 
>

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[RBW] Sunset in Morro Bay

[drew]

Awesome

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[RBW] Re: Sunset in Morro Bay

[Deacon Patrick]

Ride where there is no trail! Love it!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:06:39 PM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> For several reasons, I hadn't ridden this bike for about 2 months.  Got to 
> go to Morro Bay and really realized how much I enjoy riding it.  
> Unfortunately we waited until our last night there to do this, but had so 
> much fun.
>
> sunset ride on the beach 
>

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[RBW] Re: OT Vintage MTB rehab project.

[Dave Johnston]

BTW: The cook brothers crank had a replaceable spider so in theory there 
are spiders in 110/74 BCD out there. But probably attached to cranks and 
selling for big bucks on ebay. 

-Dave J

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 4:38:37 PM UTC-5, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> I have some various manf 34, 32, and Stainless 24t rings in 94/58 I would 
> be willing to sell.
>
> Surly also sells Stainless rings in a variety of 94mm sizes up to 36t. I 
> did not like the quality of the Real brand. Really thick cut teeth.
>
> The TA rings are awesome but pricey:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 12:53:00 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hello Rivendellians,
>>
>> I have a 1995 Salsa Ala Carte and I'd like to rehab it with a new drive 
>> and cockpit. It has the original Salsa chromoly stem 130mm and have 
>> considered throwing on a Ritchey 30º rise 80mm stem & straight MTB bar for 
>> more comfort. The current setup I'm pretty stretched out.The old rapid fire 
>> shifters just don't work, I've tried lot's of things to get the shifter 
>> working (advice from LBS) but it seems easier to just buy new one's. 
>>
>> The drive is 8 speed and has a Cook Bros Crank *(they went out of 
>> business in the early 2000's) which has a 4 bolt spider. I measured the 
>> inner bolts distance between adjacent bolts and determined it was a 58mm 
>> BCD ring, I also measured the outside bolts between adjacent bolts and 
>> figure it's a 94mm BCD ring. I used this chart which seemed the only one 
>> that had my measurements, 34mm & 55mm respectively. It seems MTB's with all 
>> the new tech have left these BCD's behind.
>>
>> http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/704206-chainring-bcd-chart.html
>>
>> I went to the Peter White page and found this page  
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/chainrings.asp 
>>
>> The TA Carmina rings seem like the right ones? But man are they expensive!
>>
>> Is the bike worth keeping it somewhat period/vintage?  Have I measured 
>> this correctly? Are there other ring manufacturers making these ring sizes 
>> and importantly less expensive. I've seen Vuelta and Real rings but just 
>> don't know whether their quality rings?
>>
>> I could just purchase a SLX 10 speed group for $230 and be done with it. 
>>
>> *I heard Cook Bros came back in 2010 but with limited offerings but my 
>> search has been fruitless in terms of info regarding BCD ring sizes.
>>
>> So thanks in advance for any wisdom the group can dispense. 
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>   Los Angeles, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Sunset in Morro Bay

[WETH]

Great photos of what looks like a fabulous ride.

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[RBW] joe appaloosa photos

[Patrick D Kelly]

Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[sameness]

Noted!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:18:07 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> They are just below or even with the saddle. That's hardly "way up there" 
> on any Riv.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: Mid-Atlantic 2016 Snow

[WETH]

Andy,
Thanks for sharing how things are in Pittsburgh. I'm glad you only got 6". Stay 
safe and warm.
Erl

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[sameness]

Looks cool, thanks for the pics!

How are those bars? They look wy up there, but I'm guessing that's the 
point.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:30:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
> then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022
>

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[Deacon Patrick]

They are just below or even with the saddle. That's hardly "way up there" 
on any Riv.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:44:24 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
> How are those bars? They look wy up there, but I'm guessing that's the 
> point.
>

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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[Deacon Patrick]

Beautiful bike! Great pics, especially of those handlebars, Patrick! How do 
they feel to ride?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 1:30:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
> then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022
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[RBW] Re: Mid-Atlantic 2016 Snow

[WETH]

After shoveling out the cars and sidewalk, I attempted a ride.  The studded 
tires provided great traction.  The snowplows entered my neighborhood about 
the time I started my ride.  Not wanting to be a nuisance or put myself or 
others in danger, I headed home.  Many streets remain unplowed or only 
plowed on car width.  Once things settle down, I look forward to more 
riding.
Photos prove it snowed:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskpSr9fb
Stay safe out there,
Erl

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 9:36:30 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> I figured it would be fun to start a thread for those of us in the 
> Mid-Atlantic area as we get to see whether or not this big blizzard 
> actually show's up on Friday or not... and it'll be amusing for list 
> members in area's of the country that get REAL snow all the time to hear 
> about how we deal with it.  :)  If we actually end up with the 10-30" 
> currently forecast for DC it'll make for some memorable pictures to share! 
>
> Today's commute home got a surprise flurry which snarled up traffic across 
> the region.  Needless to say I was VERY happy I rode in today.  
>
>
> 
>  
> 
>
>
> More photo's on flickr 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: OT Vintage MTB rehab project.

[Dave Johnston]

I have some various manf 34, 32, and Stainless 24t rings in 94/58 I would 
be willing to sell.

Surly also sells Stainless rings in a variety of 94mm sizes up to 36t. I 
did not like the quality of the Real brand. Really thick cut teeth.

The TA rings are awesome but pricey:







On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 12:53:00 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hello Rivendellians,
>
> I have a 1995 Salsa Ala Carte and I'd like to rehab it with a new drive 
> and cockpit. It has the original Salsa chromoly stem 130mm and have 
> considered throwing on a Ritchey 30º rise 80mm stem & straight MTB bar for 
> more comfort. The current setup I'm pretty stretched out.The old rapid fire 
> shifters just don't work, I've tried lot's of things to get the shifter 
> working (advice from LBS) but it seems easier to just buy new one's. 
>
> The drive is 8 speed and has a Cook Bros Crank *(they went out of business 
> in the early 2000's) which has a 4 bolt spider. I measured the inner bolts 
> distance between adjacent bolts and determined it was a 58mm BCD ring, I 
> also measured the outside bolts between adjacent bolts and figure it's a 
> 94mm BCD ring. I used this chart which seemed the only one that had my 
> measurements, 34mm & 55mm respectively. It seems MTB's with all the new 
> tech have left these BCD's behind.
>
> http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/704206-chainring-bcd-chart.html
>
> I went to the Peter White page and found this page  
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/chainrings.asp 
>
> The TA Carmina rings seem like the right ones? But man are they expensive!
>
> Is the bike worth keeping it somewhat period/vintage?  Have I measured 
> this correctly? Are there other ring manufacturers making these ring sizes 
> and importantly less expensive. I've seen Vuelta and Real rings but just 
> don't know whether their quality rings?
>
> I could just purchase a SLX 10 speed group for $230 and be done with it. 
>
> *I heard Cook Bros came back in 2010 but with limited offerings but my 
> search has been fruitless in terms of info regarding BCD ring sizes.
>
> So thanks in advance for any wisdom the group can dispense. 
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
>
>
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Mid-Atlantic 2016 Snow

[John Wilson]

35 miles southeast of Pittsburgh, around 16". I'm a bit too decrepit, 
thanks to old bike injuries, to try this stuff. Even my cross country skis 
are idle.
John Wilson
Greensburg, PA  USA

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:03:32 PM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:

> Pittsburgh was 6" and done by noon today. Most of that was on the ground 
> by 0600 when I headed out to work. No plowing of snow mass, just wheel 
> paths smashing it down into flat cakes that were not adhered to the super 
> cold pavement below. Like a pile of small shale, but slipperier. 
>
> Agree with Deacon, a bit more speed gave way to more stable tracking and 
> steering. Slow and harsh simply separated my wheels' contact patch from the 
> underlying pavement and both those plaques of flat snow and I travelled 
> unintended directions. 
>
> So with a hearty "arrrgh" I was off on the untreated, unplowed rutting 
> snow covered roads of the city to go to work.
>
> Return trip much different; sun down, temps plummeting, moon full-ish and 
> road wetness doing its best to freeze. Packed fenders, until a bump. 
>
> Home now. Dinner and a nap ahead, then again tomorrow.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 9:36:30 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> I figured it would be fun to start a thread for those of us in the 
>> Mid-Atlantic area as we get to see whether or not this big blizzard 
>> actually show's up on Friday or not... and it'll be amusing for list 
>> members in area's of the country that get REAL snow all the time to hear 
>> about how we deal with it.  :)  If we actually end up with the 10-30" 
>> currently forecast for DC it'll make for some memorable pictures to share! 
>>
>> Today's commute home got a surprise flurry which snarled up traffic 
>> across the region.  Needless to say I was VERY happy I rode in today.  
>>
>>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>>
>> More photo's on flickr 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTT//WTB: Paul Motolites for Paul Touring Cantis...

[Patch T]

Hello all,

I'm interested in a trade or buy. Looking for a set of used Paul Touring 
Cantis, silver or black.

I have a set of used Motolites, black, front and rear, and would ideally 
love to make a trade for Cantis in similar condition, or we can work out 
the difference monetarily.

I'm bad at mileage calculations... but they're in great shape mechanically, 
almost 2 years old, scuffs/scratches here and there. Mix of commuting and 
trail-riding, almost daily.

Otherwise if you have a pair for sale, let me know. 

Thanks!






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[RBW] Re: PRICE DROP! FS: HERON Touring 55cm complete build

[Wayne Naha]

Such a beautiful bike!  Very cool!

On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 10:08:41 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> As promised, price is now $1,050! 
>
> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 7:01:47 AM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>>
>> After a few nibbles, this bike is still with me, and I'd like to see it 
>> go to a good home. I'll knock off $100 this week, and another $100 next 
>> week if it's still around. After that it might go into hiding until Spring. 
>> So, that means $1,150 today, and $1,050 a week from today. Either way I'll 
>> still split shipping to the lower 48, but if you are local I'll knock off 
>> another $50. 
>>
>  
>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/albums/72157661387558919
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking!
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>

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