[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[dougP]

Why go uphill faster?  As long as you don't fall over, meh?  More time to 
look around & see stuff.  Food vs speedI dunno.

dougP

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote:
>
> A little OT, but I sold my other bikes ( except 3 frame sets ). My next 
> purchase will be something to enhance my Roadeo. I am 25lbs. overweight and 
> could care less. I just enjoy my Riv and if I need to go uphill faster, I 
> guess I will have to back off the good food.
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 8:36:51 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Interesting bike names:
>>
>> Clem,
>> Homer,
>> Roscoe,
>> Wilbury,
>> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>>
>> Betty,
>> Sam,
>> Joe,
>> Roadeo,
>> Redwood,
>> Simple One
>> sound very all-American USA
>>
>> Gomez,
>> Chevio/ut,
>> Bleriot
>> Rambouillet,
>> Atlantis,
>> Hilsen
>> sound international
>>
>> Legolas,
>> Bombadill,
>> Rivendell,
>> sound like the books/movies
>>
>> Hunqapillar
>> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>>
>> Appaloosa and Glorious
>> sound elegant and dreamy.
>>
>> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
>> the blug post says.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[Doug Peterson]

That photo should go into the IEBA permanent file for marketing purposes.  
It's great!  And thanks for pre-running the course & picking up all those 
nasty goatheads.  I've got Phil's patch on my front bag anyway.  Ya never 
know!

doug

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 7:32:26 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> David, sorry to not have replied to you sooner... life happens sometimes.
>
> I'm ecstatic you and your wife can make it! It's practically in your back 
> yard, right! The 100km is the signature event, so it's the one to shoot for 
> in my opinion! 
>
> You brought up two related question. The first is about your tires. The 
> Nano/Knard combo will be fine. Anything more than 40mm is unnecessary. 
> As the second question is about bikes/tires, I'll add that like Mike 
> mentioned, some light knobbie tread will be really appreciated. So 
> whichever bike she brings I think she'll be happier with the tire that has 
> some knobs. That and whichever frame she will be most comfortable on for 
> six+ hours. Oh, and gearing for hills. 
>
> I don't think goatheads are going to be a big problem. I've been 
> pre-riding with my my road bike on Challenge Eroicas, which are pretty thin 
> rubber. No problems. So don't choose a tire just for puncture resistance. 
> Pick the tire for the terrain: 30 miles of roads, and 30 miles of hardpack. 
> A few short sand sections. As insurance, taking out the valve core and 
> putting a couple ounces of Stans wouldn't hurt at all. I'd do that before 
> tire liners. In fact, that is what I do!
>
> So don't know if that helped clear things up for you. I hope some. 
> Anything else, definitely let me know!
>
> Was out in the hills today, and it's beautiful!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:34 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders 
> (SCAR)  wrote:
>
>> I rode it two years ago on Hetres.  They were very fast but less stable 
>> in the singletrack sections and my background is MTB racing. This time I'm 
>> going to run a low knobbed tire like the Panaracer 40mm Gravelking.I 
>> think your wife would better off on the Romulus with some 36-38mm low knob 
>> tires than the Glorius.  
>>
>> I'll be riding the 100km course as well.
>>
>> ~mike
>> Carlsbad Ca
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 2:42:08 PM UTC-8, David Carroll wrote:
>>>
>>> David, everybody,
>>>
>>> Just registered my wife and I for the 100km. We thought about the 
>>> English century, but we have to arrange babysitting and bring the kids down 
>>> to Redlands. A hundred miler might take too much time. Probably my mom (KC) 
>>> and dad will participate in the half-metric event.
>>>
>>> I've never been on the course, but it seems these trails around there 
>>> are a bit smoother than our fire roads, which are rutted, rocky things that 
>>> most people tackle with 29ers, Jeeps, and lifted trucks. Would a 41 mm 
>>> Knard / 40 mm Nano combo on my Soma Double Cross be fine? Not overkill, I 
>>> hope. My wife has to decide between her Glorius, Romulus, or 29er. She has 
>>> Hetres on the Glorius, and if she takes it I thought we might want to put 
>>> in tire liners. I don't get a ton of thorns here in the San Gabriels, but I 
>>> hear goat heads are more common around Redlands.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. We like to ride fast and light 
>>> when possible, but I'm not looking to get any "under-biking awards"  :)
>>>
>>> Dave in Wrightwood
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:22 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:


 http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html

 A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam on the Range

[Thom Goodmann]

Great ride . . . had the QB out yesterday, and it felt so good that I am 
thinking of riding on an MS fundraiser in a couple of weeks.  #flatflorida 
Who needs multiples?!  --Thom in Miami

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:46:51 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Aye, the whole ride had this epic journeyman feel to it that was a 
> fantastic addition to the poetry of it. Saddle is a Rivet Diablo. Love it!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 4:22:21 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> Idyllic in a sort of brooding, hardman way. 
>
>> What is that saddle?
>>
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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[cyclotourist]

David, sorry to not have replied to you sooner... life happens sometimes.

I'm ecstatic you and your wife can make it! It's practically in your back
yard, right! The 100km is the signature event, so it's the one to shoot for
in my opinion!

You brought up two related question. The first is about your tires. The
Nano/Knard combo will be fine. Anything more than 40mm is unnecessary.
As the second question is about bikes/tires, I'll add that like Mike
mentioned, some light knobbie tread will be really appreciated. So
whichever bike she brings I think she'll be happier with the tire that has
some knobs. That and whichever frame she will be most comfortable on for
six+ hours. Oh, and gearing for hills.

I don't think goatheads are going to be a big problem. I've been pre-riding
with my my road bike on Challenge Eroicas, which are pretty thin rubber. No
problems. So don't choose a tire just for puncture resistance. Pick the
tire for the terrain: 30 miles of roads, and 30 miles of hardpack. A few
short sand sections. As insurance, taking out the valve core and putting a
couple ounces of Stans wouldn't hurt at all. I'd do that before tire
liners. In fact, that is what I do!

So don't know if that helped clear things up for you. I hope some. Anything
else, definitely let me know!

Was out in the hills today, and it's beautiful!




On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:34 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders
(SCAR)  wrote:

> I rode it two years ago on Hetres.  They were very fast but less stable in
> the singletrack sections and my background is MTB racing. This time I'm
> going to run a low knobbed tire like the Panaracer 40mm Gravelking.I
> think your wife would better off on the Romulus with some 36-38mm low knob
> tires than the Glorius.
>
> I'll be riding the 100km course as well.
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 2:42:08 PM UTC-8, David Carroll wrote:
>>
>> David, everybody,
>>
>> Just registered my wife and I for the 100km. We thought about the English
>> century, but we have to arrange babysitting and bring the kids down to
>> Redlands. A hundred miler might take too much time. Probably my mom (KC)
>> and dad will participate in the half-metric event.
>>
>> I've never been on the course, but it seems these trails around there are
>> a bit smoother than our fire roads, which are rutted, rocky things that
>> most people tackle with 29ers, Jeeps, and lifted trucks. Would a 41 mm
>> Knard / 40 mm Nano combo on my Soma Double Cross be fine? Not overkill, I
>> hope. My wife has to decide between her Glorius, Romulus, or 29er. She has
>> Hetres on the Glorius, and if she takes it I thought we might want to put
>> in tire liners. I don't get a ton of thorns here in the San Gabriels, but I
>> hear goat heads are more common around Redlands.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. We like to ride fast and light when
>> possible, but I'm not looking to get any "under-biking awards"  :)
>>
>> Dave in Wrightwood
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:22 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html
>>>
>>> A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!
>>>
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>>> David
>>>
>>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>>
>>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Don Compton]

A little OT, but I sold my other bikes ( except 3 frame sets ). My next 
purchase will be something to enhance my Roadeo. I am 25lbs. overweight and 
could care less. I just enjoy my Riv and if I need to go uphill faster, I 
guess I will have to back off the good food.

On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 8:36:51 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Interesting bike names:
>
> Clem,
> Homer,
> Roscoe,
> Wilbury,
> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>
> Betty,
> Sam,
> Joe,
> Roadeo,
> Redwood,
> Simple One
> sound very all-American USA
>
> Gomez,
> Chevio/ut,
> Bleriot
> Rambouillet,
> Atlantis,
> Hilsen
> sound international
>
> Legolas,
> Bombadill,
> Rivendell,
> sound like the books/movies
>
> Hunqapillar
> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>
> Appaloosa and Glorious
> sound elegant and dreamy.
>
> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
> the blug post says.
>

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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Don Compton]

Roadeo is perfect for me.

On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 8:36:51 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Interesting bike names:
>
> Clem,
> Homer,
> Roscoe,
> Wilbury,
> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>
> Betty,
> Sam,
> Joe,
> Roadeo,
> Redwood,
> Simple One
> sound very all-American USA
>
> Gomez,
> Chevio/ut,
> Bleriot
> Rambouillet,
> Atlantis,
> Hilsen
> sound international
>
> Legolas,
> Bombadill,
> Rivendell,
> sound like the books/movies
>
> Hunqapillar
> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>
> Appaloosa and Glorious
> sound elegant and dreamy.
>
> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
> the blug post says.
>

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[RBW] Re: Route Suggestions: LA to Joshua Tree

[Dave C]

Here is a Google Earth snapshot of the area




On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 6:42:49 PM UTC-8, Dave C wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> I don't know how you may have since modified your route, but I took some 
> pictures of where your route enters into Lytle Creek. Baldy Rd descends 
> into this area and then you would take the fire roads to Swarthout Canyon.
>
> Parts of the roads are like rock gardens, others are hard packed dirt with 
> little rocks all around. 
>
> We rode from Lone Pine Canyon to this area today, and the climbs were a 
> taxing workout. If you believe you can make this route work out, let me 
> know - we can pick you two up and give you a place to shower and sleep for 
> the night, if you want.
>
>
>
> 
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>
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>
> 
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>
> 
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>
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>
> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 5:30:11 AM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Considering a multiday ride this Spring from LA to Joshua Tree. About 10 
>> days of riding to, and then around/through, Joshua Tree NP. 
>>
>> This is  one potential route 
>> plan, and I'm hoping for comments and suggestions. Feel free to steer me 
>> completely off this track if it seems I'm just headed for bad riding. 
>>
>> I live in VT and, though have lived in CA, my only experience with SoCal 
>> is life and work on the islands. Never spent much time on the mainland, and 
>> have never been into Angeles NF. 
>>
>> Thanks for your help folks. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I screwed the schedule up...Correction: First race is in New Zealand

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:58:37 AM UTC-8, Clayton wrote:
>
> Bike tinkers union proudly represented by Colin, factory race team 
> mechanic for the Giant Enduro Team. The patch is on a world tour on his 
> customized tool bag. First stop, New Zealand...
>  
>
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>> Clayton (Bend)
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Patrick Moore]

"The Gods frown on excessive earnestness."

Confucius

Patrick "or somebody else" Moore, who has always pronounced them Ex *age* and
Doora *ace*.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> It's really ah chay? I've been saying Ace like "Nice job, Ace" for 30
> years. Sheesh!
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[RBW] Re: Route Suggestions: LA to Joshua Tree

[Dave C]

Daniel,

I don't know how you may have since modified your route, but I took some 
pictures of where your route enters into Lytle Creek. Baldy Rd descends 
into this area and then you would take the fire roads to Swarthout Canyon.

Parts of the roads are like rock gardens, others are hard packed dirt with 
little rocks all around. 

We rode from Lone Pine Canyon to this area today, and the climbs were a 
taxing workout. If you believe you can make this route work out, let me 
know - we can pick you two up and give you a place to shower and sleep for 
the night, if you want.


















On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 5:30:11 AM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Considering a multiday ride this Spring from LA to Joshua Tree. About 10 
> days of riding to, and then around/through, Joshua Tree NP. 
>
> This is  one potential route 
> plan, and I'm hoping for comments and suggestions. Feel free to steer me 
> completely off this track if it seems I'm just headed for bad riding. 
>
> I live in VT and, though have lived in CA, my only experience with SoCal 
> is life and work on the islands. Never spent much time on the mainland, and 
> have never been into Angeles NF. 
>
> Thanks for your help folks. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Jeremy Till]

Oh, and I totally agree about the stout wheels thing.  I've noticed the 
same thing on my Quickbeam (lighter weight everywhere, including the 
wheels) vs. my Long Haul Trucker (stout and heavy), which are otherwise set 
up very similarly.  Other than the gears, of course.

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 12:29:19 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Heavier wheels very definitely contribute to a "momentum" feel. One thing 
> I miss on my otherwise most excellent 26" fixed gears is that feeling of 
> "keep on rolling." The (1) light and (2) shorter radius wheels simply don't 
> carry the momentum that larger and heavier wheels do.
>
> OTOH, they get up to speed faster, and seem to climb faster.
>
> I recall a very nice ride through West LA years ago riding an early 60s 
> Paramount track bike (that had huge clearances and handled like a very nice 
> road bike) with 40 spoke Campy wheels -- yes, the combination was not OEM. 
> Those heavy wheels just rolled and rolled.
>
> After so many years of riding both, I have to say that I like both, and 
> would in the future choose my wheels with other criteria in mind than 
> "feel."
>
> Patrick Moore, about to ride his 75 gi, 559 bsd-wheeled, 370-gram rim'd, 
> 175-gram tir'd Rivendell gofast in sunny ABQ, NM.
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> 26 x 1.5 Continental slicks, which look comically skinny on this bike. I 
>> was curious if my tires were a contributor to the momentum effect, so it's 
>> interesting to hear that you're experiencing the same thing with 
>> appropriately fat tires.
>>
>> To expound a little more on the ride, the feeling is like a slight 
>> tailwind: When it gets wound up to a cruising speed, it feels like it 
>> doesn't take excess pedal-pressure to maintain that speed. Incidentally, 
>> this is opposite of the old 26-inch-wheel Bstone XOs I've owned. They spun 
>> up fast, then kind of hit a wall. It took consistent effort to keep speed 
>> up, and any backing off would have an immediate slowing effect. I don't 
>> know what makes the difference between these bikes - maybe 25 years of 
>> learning and designing - but the CLEM is a fabulous bicycle.
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[RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Jeremy Till]

That's why the Clem has a thicker seat tube than previous Rivs! 
 Shenanigans!

In all seriousness, it would be interesting to discover that Riv had 
stumbled into a new way of inducing planing, even in stoutly-tubed 
bicycles: make the tubes longer!

Can't wait to build up my Clem!

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:24:15 AM UTC-8, Bill wrote:
>
> Maybe there's an electric motor hiding in the seat tube. This calls for a 
> surprise technical inspection. That Walnut Creek Skunk Works is always up 
> to something.

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam on the Range

[Deacon Patrick]

Aye, the whole ride had this epic journeyman feel to it that was a 
fantastic addition to the poetry of it. Saddle is a Rivet Diablo. Love it!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 4:22:21 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
Idyllic in a sort of brooding, hardman way. 

> What is that saddle?
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Joe Bernard]

It's really ah chay? I've been saying Ace like "Nice job, Ace" for 30 years. 
Sheesh!

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Grant Petersen]

Ultra laid-back.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:05 AM, sameness  wrote:

> Tad Lude. Reeeally relaxed geometry.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:35:03 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>
>> Tad Lewd might fly as a model name...under the right circumstances.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Happy Valentine's Day

[David Hays]

Thank you Amit.
I actually forwarded it to my wife.
David


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> Man. Can't believe this post hasn't gotten any love! 
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> On Sunday, 14 February 2016 10:11:05 UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:
> https://flic.kr/p/goZ28E 
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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[dougP]

"I am impressed and slightly surprised that the list is so long."

It's surprising what you can accomplish in a couple of decades.  

dougP

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:35:03 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Good idea! It might be a bit creepy, but Tad Lewd might fly as a model 
> name...under the right circumstances. I am impressed and slightly surprised 
> that the list is so long.
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 8:36:51 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Interesting bike names:
>>
>> Clem,
>> Homer,
>> Roscoe,
>> Wilbury,
>> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>>
>> Betty,
>> Sam,
>> Joe,
>> Roadeo,
>> Redwood,
>> Simple One
>> sound very all-American USA
>>
>> Gomez,
>> Chevio/ut,
>> Bleriot
>> Rambouillet,
>> Atlantis,
>> Hilsen
>> sound international
>>
>> Legolas,
>> Bombadill,
>> Rivendell,
>> sound like the books/movies
>>
>> Hunqapillar
>> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>>
>> Appaloosa and Glorious
>> sound elegant and dreamy.
>>
>> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
>> the blug post says.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[Doug Peterson]

David in Wrightwood:

Goatheads are a serious problem so tire up as best you can.  I've used 40mm 
Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on my Atlantis out there & not had any flats 
(knock wood).  The trails are in good shape, not a lot of ruts or other 
damage.  People do this ride on everything from skinny tired racing bikes 
to serious MTBs.  I'll leave it to David E to comment on your bike choices 
but it sounds like you've got plenty of options that'll work.  

doug

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 2:42:08 PM UTC-8, David Carroll wrote:
>
> David, everybody,
>
> Just registered my wife and I for the 100km. We thought about the English 
> century, but we have to arrange babysitting and bring the kids down to 
> Redlands. A hundred miler might take too much time. Probably my mom (KC) 
> and dad will participate in the half-metric event.
>
> I've never been on the course, but it seems the trails around there are a 
> bit smoother than our fire roads, which are rutted, rocky things that most 
> people tackle with 29ers, Jeeps, and lifted trucks. Would a 41 mm Knard / 
> 40 mm Nano combo on my Soma Double Cross be fine? Not overkill, I hope. My 
> wife has to decide between her Glorius, Romulus, or 29er. She has Hetres on 
> the Glorius, and if she takes it I thought we might want to put in tire 
> liners. I don't get a ton of thorns here in the San Gabriels, but I hear 
> goat heads are more common around Redlands.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. We like to ride fast and light when 
> possible, but I'm not looking to get any "under-biking awards"  :)
>
> Dave in Wrightwood
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:22 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html
>>
>> A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!
>>
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>>
>> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>>
>> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Happy Valentine's Day

[Amit Singh]

Man. Can't believe this post hasn't gotten any love! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Lungimsam]

I like to say Shwahbeee.
But was told shwahb.

I also say "Bler-ee-it"

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Re: [RBW] 2 things: (1) WTB/WTT good quality, silver forged calipers; (2) QB/SO for FM hub?

[Patrick Moore]

I should have been more clear: is the axle long enough for this sort of
installation? The axle isn't long enough to clear the dropouts on my 126 OL
spacing '99 Joe.

Will there be enough threads on the outside of the 120 mm OL dropouts to
securely bolt the FM in place?



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> Should be easy—put 3mm worth of spacers on each side of the axle and slip
> it into the frame. QB (and I suppose the S1) have 120mm “fixie” spacing, so
> you need to add 6mm of washers to make it fit perfectly.
>
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> On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
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> 1. If anyone has good, cold-forged, single pivots, normal (max 57 mm)
> reach, in good condition, I would like to get them. Buy, or trade. I have a
> newly purchased, newly refurbished, Mac DVD drive that I just discovered
> won't work unless plugged directly into the single USB port in my Mac. I
> paid $47 plus Prime shipping. I have other things, too.
>
> 2. I have a loverly FM hub (basically, in mid-range gears, it will give
> you something like a 50-60-70 or 55-65-75 gear series -- medium gaps,
> unlike the hugely disappointing gaps of the AW and the tiny hardman time
> trial gaps of clubman hubs like the AC. The OL spacing is 114mm.
>
> Question is this, and directed at those of you who have Sturmey-ified a
> Quickbeam or SimpleOne: Can I get this to work with a QB or SO? Note that I
> *have* made a Trek 400 Elance frame, 126 OL, work with a 114 AW, but it
> was not pretty.
>
> I bought this hub in culpable ignorance that the OL spacing was far, far
> *far* from the 130 mm of my '03 Curt. Shameful.
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Re: [RBW] 2 things: (1) WTB/WTT good quality, silver forged calipers; (2) QB/SO for FM hub?

[Eric Norris]

Should be easy—put 3mm worth of spacers on each side of the axle and slip it 
into the frame. QB (and I suppose the S1) have 120mm “fixie” spacing, so you 
need to add 6mm of washers to make it fit perfectly.

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> On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 1. If anyone has good, cold-forged, single pivots, normal (max 57 mm) reach, 
> in good condition, I would like to get them. Buy, or trade. I have a newly 
> purchased, newly refurbished, Mac DVD drive that I just discovered won't work 
> unless plugged directly into the single USB port in my Mac. I paid $47 plus 
> Prime shipping. I have other things, too.
> 
> 2. I have a loverly FM hub (basically, in mid-range gears, it will give you 
> something like a 50-60-70 or 55-65-75 gear series -- medium gaps, unlike the 
> hugely disappointing gaps of the AW and the tiny hardman time trial gaps of 
> clubman hubs like the AC. The OL spacing is 114mm. 
> 
> Question is this, and directed at those of you who have Sturmey-ified a 
> Quickbeam or SimpleOne: Can I get this to work with a QB or SO? Note that I 
> have made a Trek 400 Elance frame, 126 OL, work with a 114 AW, but it was not 
> pretty.
> 
> I bought this hub in culpable ignorance that the OL spacing was far, far far 
> from the 130 mm of my '03 Curt. Shameful.
> 
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[RBW] 2 things: (1) WTB/WTT good quality, silver forged calipers; (2) QB/SO for FM hub?

[Patrick Moore]

1. If anyone has good, cold-forged, single pivots, normal (max 57 mm)
reach, in good condition, I would like to get them. Buy, or trade. I have a
newly purchased, newly refurbished, Mac DVD drive that I just discovered
won't work unless plugged directly into the single USB port in my Mac. I
paid $47 plus Prime shipping. I have other things, too.

2. I have a loverly FM hub (basically, in mid-range gears, it will give you
something like a 50-60-70 or 55-65-75 gear series -- medium gaps, unlike
the hugely disappointing gaps of the AW and the tiny hardman time trial
gaps of clubman hubs like the AC. The OL spacing is 114mm.

Question is this, and directed at those of you who have Sturmey-ified a
Quickbeam or SimpleOne: Can I get this to work with a QB or SO? Note that I
*have* made a Trek 400 Elance frame, 126 OL, work with a 114 AW, but it was
not pretty.

I bought this hub in culpable ignorance that the OL spacing was far, far
*far* from the 130 mm of my '03 Curt. Shameful.

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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[Tim Wood]

Hey David, do you ever make shopsack-style bags to fit wald baskets? A ranger 
tan shopsack for my 137 would be sweet. Let me know if this is even possible 
and how much one would be. Thanks.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam on the Range

[Patrick Moore]

Idyllic in a sort of brooding, hardman way.

What is that saddle?

Patrick Moore, who just rode in shorts and ss jersey at sunny and 60* with
winds gusting 17 mph from the West. (But I was in a 76" gear. Hah!)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Rampart range is the mountains that run from Pikes Peak to just South of
> Denver and paved Highway 67 rides the plateau on the western side of
> Rampart Range. It is a lovely gentle rolling 15 miles from Woodland Park to
> Westcreek (where the road then drops down into a canyon to Deckers, but I
> didn't do that today). Cloudy, 35˚F, winds steady at 20 mph, gusting to 40.
> Once I got past the "suburbs" of Woodland Park, the highway was mine, with
> the little traffic easily able to pass. Snow on the side of the road, but
> the road clear and open. What a joy ride! I just needed low gear for the
> climb to Woodland Park both directions. 40ish miles. Here's the QB with
> Pikes Peak peaking through the triangle.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Patrick Moore]

Ex *ah* jay and Doora *ach* ay.



On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I'm still working on Exage and Dura-Ace ;)
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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Joe Bernard]

I'm still working on Exage and Dura-Ace ;)

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Tim Wood]

Thanks for confirming the shimanos fit on the sunrace bodies, Dave. I received 
my ultegra bar ends but haven't installed them yet. I'm planning on trying bar 
end first but am just waiting on some grip materials to arrive. If the bar ends 
don't work out It looks like i could also mount the shimanos in thumbie/indexed 
mode with the shifters mounted on the outside of the bar. I think I'd like this 
better than on top. 

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[RBW] WTB: 36h 650b rim

[David Banzer]

I had a wheel damaged in shipping and need a replacement rim. 36h for rim 
brake. Original rim was a Velocity Synergy. 
I think I saw Rich was closing out Synergies, but the Hands on Wheels website 
appears to be down. 
Contact offlist if you have anything. 
David

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[RBW] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

[Dave C]

David, everybody,

Just registered my wife and I for the 100km. We thought about the English 
century, but we have to arrange babysitting and bring the kids down to 
Redlands. A hundred miler might take too much time. Probably my mom (KC) 
and dad will participate in the half-metric event.

I've never been on the course, but it seems the trails around there are a 
bit smoother than our fire roads, which are rutted, rocky things that most 
people tackle with 29ers, Jeeps, and lifted trucks. Would a 41 mm Knard / 
40 mm Nano combo on my Soma Double Cross be fine? Not overkill, I hope. My 
wife has to decide between her Glorius, Romulus, or 29er. She has Hetres on 
the Glorius, and if she takes it I thought we might want to put in tire 
liners. I don't get a ton of thorns here in the San Gabriels, but I hear 
goat heads are more common around Redlands.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. We like to ride fast and light when 
possible, but I'm not looking to get any "under-biking awards"  :)

Dave in Wrightwood



On Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:08:22 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
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>
>
> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2015/11/were-putting-stake-in-it-march-19-2016.html
>
> A very Rivendell-friendly event! Hope to see some of you there!
>
> -- 
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Ron Mc]

think of all those Italian bikes people mispronounce.  

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 3:29:58 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> I was wondering how "Bubbe" was pronounced. The blug says "Bubby".
>
> They should name it "Bubby Hurwitz" after my great-grandmother, Baltimore 
> immigrant from Lithuania!
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam on the Range

[René Sterental]

Nice!

On Monday, February 15, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Rampart range is the mountains that run from Pikes Peak to just South of
> Denver and paved Highway 67 rides the plateau on the western side of
> Rampart Range. It is a lovely gentle rolling 15 miles from Woodland Park to
> Westcreek (where the road then drops down into a canyon to Deckers, but I
> didn't do that today). Cloudy, 35˚F, winds steady at 20 mph, gusting to 40.
> Once I got past the "suburbs" of Woodland Park, the highway was mine, with
> the little traffic easily able to pass. Snow on the side of the road, but
> the road clear and open. What a joy ride! I just needed low gear for the
> climb to Woodland Park both directions. 40ish miles. Here's the QB with
> Pikes Peak peaking through the triangle.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Lungimsam]

I was wondering how "Bubbe" was pronounced. The blug says "Bubby".

They should name it "Bubby Hurwitz" after my great-grandmother, Baltimore 
immigrant from Lithuania!


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[RBW] WTB 650b rear wheel 126mm

[drew]

as the title says,
Looking for a rear 650b wheel spaced at 126mm (could go 130mm if the price is 
right). If you've got one around, let me know.
Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Evan E.]

Yep!  I expect to soon see Clem reviewed -- and its planing praised -- in 
Bicycle Quarterly.


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[RBW] ROSCO mailing list

[Joe Bernard]

Just saw this on the BLUG. Put "ROSCO BUBBE, your name" in the subject line to 
gr...@rivbike.com and you'll get updates on this cool project. Be like me, do 
it today!

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Re: [RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Joe Bernard]

It just occurred to me that I might be describing - wait for it - planing. I've 
never read an article/post about what that is, so I have no idea ;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Patrick Moore]

Heavier wheels very definitely contribute to a "momentum" feel. One thing I
miss on my otherwise most excellent 26" fixed gears is that feeling of
"keep on rolling." The (1) light and (2) shorter radius wheels simply don't
carry the momentum that larger and heavier wheels do.

OTOH, they get up to speed faster, and seem to climb faster.

I recall a very nice ride through West LA years ago riding an early 60s
Paramount track bike (that had huge clearances and handled like a very nice
road bike) with 40 spoke Campy wheels -- yes, the combination was not OEM.
Those heavy wheels just rolled and rolled.

After so many years of riding both, I have to say that I like both, and
would in the future choose my wheels with other criteria in mind than
"feel."

Patrick Moore, about to ride his 75 gi, 559 bsd-wheeled, 370-gram rim'd,
175-gram tir'd Rivendell gofast in sunny ABQ, NM.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> 26 x 1.5 Continental slicks, which look comically skinny on this bike. I
> was curious if my tires were a contributor to the momentum effect, so it's
> interesting to hear that you're experiencing the same thing with
> appropriately fat tires.
>
> To expound a little more on the ride, the feeling is like a slight
> tailwind: When it gets wound up to a cruising speed, it feels like it
> doesn't take excess pedal-pressure to maintain that speed. Incidentally,
> this is opposite of the old 26-inch-wheel Bstone XOs I've owned. They spun
> up fast, then kind of hit a wall. It took consistent effort to keep speed
> up, and any backing off would have an immediate slowing effect. I don't
> know what makes the difference between these bikes - maybe 25 years of
> learning and designing - but the CLEM is a fabulous bicycle.
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[RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Deacon Patrick]

Fascinating feedback, Joe. My daughters love their Clementines, though they 
haven't enough experience to describe a "slight build in tail wind once 
spun up". Of course, around here there is no flat, so getting "spun up" is 
a pipe dream. Grin. However, they are more eager to go on rides and they 
enjoy them more than their early 90's Trek MTBs with Bosco bars. They are 
definitely faster, smoother and broader grinning on the Clementines.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 1:22:21 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> 26 x 1.5 Continental slicks, which look comically skinny on this bike. I 
> was curious if my tires were a contributor to the momentum effect, so it's 
> interesting to hear that you're experiencing the same thing with 
> appropriately fat tires. 
>
> To expound a little more on the ride, the feeling is like a slight 
> tailwind: When it gets wound up to a cruising speed, it feels like it 
> doesn't take excess pedal-pressure to maintain that speed. Incidentally, 
> this is opposite of the old 26-inch-wheel Bstone XOs I've owned. They spun 
> up fast, then kind of hit a wall. It took consistent effort to keep speed 
> up, and any backing off would have an immediate slowing effect. I don't 
> know what makes the difference between these bikes - maybe 25 years of 
> learning and designing - but the CLEM is a fabulous bicycle.
>

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[RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[Joe Bernard]

26 x 1.5 Continental slicks, which look comically skinny on this bike. I was 
curious if my tires were a contributor to the momentum effect, so it's 
interesting to hear that you're experiencing the same thing with appropriately 
fat tires. 

To expound a little more on the ride, the feeling is like a slight tailwind: 
When it gets wound up to a cruising speed, it feels like it doesn't take excess 
pedal-pressure to maintain that speed. Incidentally, this is opposite of the 
old 26-inch-wheel Bstone XOs I've owned. They spun up fast, then kind of hit a 
wall. It took consistent effort to keep speed up, and any backing off would 
have an immediate slowing effect. I don't know what makes the difference 
between these bikes - maybe 25 years of learning and designing - but the CLEM 
is a fabulous bicycle.

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[RBW] Re: Winter Clem Tire: BG Rock n Roads, Schwalbe Smart Sams, or Vee Rubber V12

[Deacon Patrick]

I meant to add that whatever you put on, you will learn. As Tim mentions, 
some conditions favor a narrower tire (wet snow) while other conditions 
favor wide tire for float (my preference for around here in Colorado 
mountains). Experiment and learn. Plan on screwing up (when you learn from 
screwing up, it wasn't really screwing up!).

A note on TBs: they are (I suspect anyway) knobby Big Ones -- so if that's 
the tire you want but in snow, the TBs will be brilliant. I'm in the 
minority for preferring them to a knobbier tire in snow, so your milage may 
vary. But I love mine in virgin powder, packed powder, peanut butter 
chowder, packed snow, frozen slush, slush -- everything but solid ice. I'm 
kinda stupid that way. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> I rode my Clem around a little bit yesterday in a light snow shower on 
> some park paths to test out the Schwalbe Big Ones that are currently on.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Patrick Moore]

I select my gears, then choose the mix of rings and cogs I need to get
them. For a "gofast" road bike ("fast is very relative) I like a 65", 70",
ad 75" right in the middle of the cogset. If I can get close steps with a
~40" low and a ~80-to-90" high, I'm happy.

On my erstwhile Ram I got these gears in 2 ways: first with a 44/30
subcompact crankset and a 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed, with the 44
positioned for use with all cogs. After buying a very pretty 7410 crankset,
I did much the same with a compact ("-") 52/38 and a
16-17-18-19-20-21-22-24-27 9 speed. The gaps with the bigger rings weren't
as efficiently spaced, for my needs, whence the 9 instead of the 7. But the
crank was so pretty, I had to use it.

I realize that my gearing choices indicate certain obsessive compulsive
tendencies.

Patrick "hopes to go for a nice Prez Day ride on his 75" gofast with a 66"
on the flip side" Moore, in sunny, warm ABQ, NM.

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> So long as we're on the topic of go-fasts... what front chainring setups
> are people using?  I've been eminently satisfied w/ the standard Riv'ish
> setup of a ~46-36-23ish on triples and am very happy w/ my 45 1x on my
> Saluki...  But given that I'm limited to a 5 spd rear on my 120mm rear OLD
> go fast I am sticking to a triple and have found a couple times 46 seems a
> bit light in the front.  I'm more than satisfied on most rides but I have
> been wondering about stepping up to the 48 or 50T in the front.
>
> Also right now my granny is un-usable due to a bent up ring so I could
> really go w/ 2-3 new rings at the same time.  What do you run on your go
> fast?
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:32 PM Lungimsam  wrote:
>
>> The only reason he grew the beard longer is for the air drag so the rest
>> of the peloton could keep up.
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[RBW] Re: OT- Seattle road trip recommendations

[franklyn]

Hi, Mike,

I am not a Seattle resident but have vacationed yearly in the Pacific 
Northwest for the last three years. I would recommend taking a drive up to 
Anacortes and take the ferry to San Juan Islands. This time of the year, 
the ferry traffic may be OK, but you should check out the online ferry 
reservation for cars just to make sure you can get on the island. If you 
can find rental and/or loaner bikes, you can park your car at the ferry 
terminal in Anacortes and walk on the ferry without worrying about 
reservation. You can also rent bikes on at least the main island.

The great thing about the islands are that they are gorgeous and allow you 
to do a whole host of activities--biking, hiking, kayaking. They are also 
much dryer than the Olympic Peninsula and Seattle. I have read that the 
islands have more than 260 dry days out of a year. The drive from Seattle 
to Anacortes is just over an hour without traffic. And on the way back you 
can drive on the west side of the peninsula from Anacortes back to Seattle.

Here are some photos I took in the last three years. 

San Juan Islands trips 


Have fun!
Franklyn

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 9:18:19 AM UTC-8, M D Smith wrote:
>
> My SO is headed to Seattle in a few weeks for a work related training 
> session.  I plan on joining her afterwards for a short Pacific Northwestern 
> holiday. 
>
> I am not, unfortunately, going to be bringing a bike, but I hope to try 
> out the bike share when we are in Seattle.   
>
> We are considering renting a car for a few days and exploring farther 
> afield.  I have some questions for the Seattle folks on the list.   
>
> Could anyone offer any route suggestions for a short road trip?  We are 
> tentatively thinking of heading around the Olympic peninsula.  How would 
> that be, weather-wise, in early March?  Would heading somewhere inland 
> (like Mt Rainier) be totally out of the question at that time of year?  Any 
> other suggestions?  We are thinking we will have three days, two nights to 
> work with. 
>
> We are happy just driving around and exploring, maybe some short walks, 
> brewpubs, diners, cheap motels.  Any suggestions, tips, or warnings would 
> be greatly appreciated! 
>
> Please respond directly to bee...@gmail.com  so as not to 
> clutter up the list with OT responses. 
>
> Thanks- Mike, thawing out in Bkln, NY 
>
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Re: [RBW] Winter Clem Tire: BG Rock n Roads, Schwalbe Smart Sams, or Vee Rubber V12

[Tim Gavin]

They all seem like OK choices.

Rock n Roads have pretty horizontal tread, so they should develop decent
traction.  Smart Sams have the knobbiest tread for the most traction, and
the V12s have the least knobby (besides the Big Ones).

Some folks prefer a narrower tire (like the RnR) for winter commuting,
because it cuts through the slush.  Others prefer a wider tire (like the
others) because it provides more float.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 1:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> I rode my Clem around a little bit yesterday in a light snow shower on
> some park paths to test out the Schwalbe Big Ones that are currently on.
> I went a lot slower than normal, but the consensus was that I need
> something with a little grip to ride in light snow, and the Big Ones won't
> cut it. I have a bike with studded tires already, but want to set up my
> Clem so I can ride in wintry weather.
> Ideally I'd want Schwalbe Thunder Burts I think, but I'd order them from a
> German distributor and it could take a few weeks before they arrive. Add on
> a pretty mild snowfall total this winter in Chicago, and I'd rather use
> what I have then buy more tires.
>
> I have:
> Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads (700x43)
> Schwalbe Smart Sams (2.1")
> Vee Rubber V12 (1.95", sort of micro knob tread)
>
> Which would you choose?
>
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] Re: Nice ride today, or: everyone needs a gofast road bike.

[Dave Johnston]

I just swapped out to a 46-38-24 w 12-28 7spd on my go fast, from a 
50-38-26 &11-28 as a winter project. I felt like the 50t was overkill and I 
was swapping cranks for other reasons so I thought I'd give it a try. I 
don't have any real riding time on this setup yet but on a steep downhill I 
missed the easy slow spin to keep up the speed (I probably should have just 
enjoyed the coast). I may put the 11t back on.

My other lightweight zippy bike is a Rawland Stag with 43-29 and 11-34 
9spd. I coast or spin the downhills on that one and that's OK too! I really 
like the simpler shifting of the double.

-Dave J

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:58:52 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 20 miles -- no biggy; but I had no errand to run, so I took the gofast. 
> The Elk Pass tires are so nice; I can detour onto dirt, firm dirt and light 
> gravel, if I like -- despite their weight of 175 grams. Not that gofast 
> bikes need to have this capacity; but it is nice to have it when the tires 
> that allow it are the fastest pavement tires I've ridden (this is a seat of 
> pants/leg torque/cadence estimate). In fact, saying that gofasts have to be 
> dirt capable is like saying a racing car has to have a trunk.
>
> Anyway: sunny, breezy, temps over 60F -- very nice; a detour for a couple 
> of minor hills -- living in The Valley as I do, hills have to looked for.
>
> The point, if this divagation has a point: I'm glad I have a gofast! 
> Everyone ought to have one as one of the statutorily minimum 4 bikes in 
> their stable. Fully kitted commuting or errand bike; check. Dirt bike; 
> check. Beater; check. Gofast.
>
> I:
>
> '03 Riv: errands.
> '02: gofast.
> Race Lite and hopefully forthcoming Matthews: dirt.
> Dahon: beater.
>
> You?
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[RBW] Re: Winter Clem Tire: BG Rock n Roads, Schwalbe Smart Sams, or Vee Rubber V12

[Deacon Patrick]

Smart Sams till the TBs arrive. But I'd say you can't go wrong with RnRs 
either.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 12:19:40 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I rode my Clem around a little bit yesterday in a light snow shower on 
> some park paths to test out the Schwalbe Big Ones that are currently on.
>

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[RBW] Quickbeam on the Range

[Deacon Patrick]

Rampart range is the mountains that run from Pikes Peak to just South of 
Denver and paved Highway 67 rides the plateau on the western side of 
Rampart Range. It is a lovely gentle rolling 15 miles from Woodland Park to 
Westcreek (where the road then drops down into a canyon to Deckers, but I 
didn't do that today). Cloudy, 35˚F, winds steady at 20 mph, gusting to 40. 
Once I got past the "suburbs" of Woodland Park, the highway was mine, with 
the little traffic easily able to pass. Snow on the side of the road, but 
the road clear and open. What a joy ride! I just needed low gear for the 
climb to Woodland Park both directions. 40ish miles. Here's the QB with 
Pikes Peak peaking through the triangle.

With abandon,
Patrick



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[RBW] Re: CLEM-mentum

[David Banzer]

Joe,
What tires are you running? I have Schwalbe Big Ones on my big Clem and I 
certainly feel the momentum kick, but I credit some of that to the tires.
But yeah, Clem definitely can go fast when it's pushed. 
David

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 1:15:05 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I've decided there's some kind of spring effect going on with the bendy 
> seatstays. Hey, I know it's ridiculous, but that's my story and I'm 
> sticking to it! ;)
>
> PS. I clearly don't know how to spell "whose".
>
> Joe "mentum" Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
>

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[RBW] Winter Clem Tire: BG Rock n Roads, Schwalbe Smart Sams, or Vee Rubber V12

[David Banzer]

I rode my Clem around a little bit yesterday in a light snow shower on some 
park paths to test out the Schwalbe Big Ones that are currently on.
I went a lot slower than normal, but the consensus was that I need 
something with a little grip to ride in light snow, and the Big Ones won't 
cut it. I have a bike with studded tires already, but want to set up my 
Clem so I can ride in wintry weather.
Ideally I'd want Schwalbe Thunder Burts I think, but I'd order them from a 
German distributor and it could take a few weeks before they arrive. Add on 
a pretty mild snowfall total this winter in Chicago, and I'd rather use 
what I have then buy more tires.

I have:
Bruce Gordon Rock n Roads (700x43)
Schwalbe Smart Sams (2.1")
Vee Rubber V12 (1.95", sort of micro knob tread)

Which would you choose?

David
Chicago

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[RBW] CLEM-mentum

[Joe Bernard]

I've decided there's some kind of spring effect going on with the bendy 
seatstays. Hey, I know it's ridiculous, but that's my story and I'm sticking to 
it! ;)

PS. I clearly don't know how to spell "whose".

Joe "mentum" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Lungimsam]

No, i meant that the name hubbahhubbah is a little lewd sounding. Not meaning 
to nsme it Tad

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[RBW] Re: FS Campagnolo Veloce Flatbar Ergolever Set w/Cables

[Bruce Smitham]

These Campy shifter/levers are sold

On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 9:43:42 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> FS Campagnolo Veloce integrated flat bar 2/3 x 10 shifters/road caliper 
> brake levers, pair. I mounted and rode these. Cables and housing are still 
> in great condition. More importantly the levers and shifters are in perfect 
> condition (no scratches anywhere) and work great. I just wanted to go back 
> to drop handlebars. I'd like to get $150 shipped CONUS. Details below. 
> Thanks, Bruce in San Diego
>
> Max handlebar clamp diameter is 22.4mm
> Compatible only with Campagnolo rear derailleurs
> Front shifter works with double or triple chainring
> Brake levers are compatible with Campagnolo road calipers
> Inner cables and housing included
> Item Specifications- Left Shifter
> Intended Use Road
> Brake Lever Actuation Long Pull
> Brake Lever Use Left
> Item Specifications- Right Shifter
> Intended Use Road
> Cassette Spacing Campagnolo 10
> Shifter/Derailleur Compatibility Campagnolo
> Brake Lever Actuation Long Pull
> Brake Lever Use Right
> Cable Road
> End Type Campy
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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[El Sapo]

I'm curious what shifter setup Riv shows on their bosco bar pictures. Looks 
like shimano. What is the mount and the shifter? I'm going to change out the 
brake levers to get the bolts out from under the palms of my hands. I want that 
whole area of the bars grip able. What lever do you guys like?

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[RBW] OT- Seattle road trip recommendations

[Mike]

My SO is headed to Seattle in a few weeks for a work related training session.  
I plan on joining her afterwards for a short Pacific Northwestern holiday.

I am not, unfortunately, going to be bringing a bike, but I hope to try out the 
bike share when we are in Seattle.  

We are considering renting a car for a few days and exploring farther afield.  
I have some questions for the Seattle folks on the list.  

Could anyone offer any route suggestions for a short road trip?  We are 
tentatively thinking of heading around the Olympic peninsula.  How would that 
be, weather-wise, in early March?  Would heading somewhere inland (like Mt 
Rainier) be totally out of the question at that time of year?  Any other 
suggestions?  We are thinking we will have three days, two nights to work with.

We are happy just driving around and exploring, maybe some short walks, 
brewpubs, diners, cheap motels.  Any suggestions, tips, or warnings would be 
greatly appreciated!

Please respond directly to bee...@gmail.com so as not to clutter up the list 
with OT responses. 

Thanks- Mike, thawing out in Bkln, NY


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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[sameness]

Tad Lude. Reeeally relaxed geometry.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 8:35:03 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Tad Lewd might fly as a model name...under the right circumstances.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: "Biketinkers Union" patches

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bike tinkers union proudly represented by Colin, factory race team mechanic 
for the Giant Enduro Team. The patch is on a world tour on his customized 
tool bag. First stop, south America...
 

>
> 
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>
> 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Leslie]

Romulus under Italian/International 

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Romulus?
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 10:36:51 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Interesting bike names:
>>
>> Clem,
>> Homer,
>> Roscoe,
>> Wilbury,
>> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>>
>> Betty,
>> Sam,
>> Joe,
>> Roadeo,
>> Redwood,
>> Simple One
>> sound very all-American USA
>>
>> Gomez,
>> Chevio/ut,
>> Bleriot
>> Rambouillet,
>> Atlantis,
>> Hilsen
>> sound international
>>
>> Legolas,
>> Bombadill,
>> Rivendell,
>> sound like the books/movies
>>
>> Hunqapillar
>> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>>
>> Appaloosa and Glorious
>> sound elegant and dreamy.
>>
>> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
>> the blug post says.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Dave Johnston]

PS if you want really nice micro ratchet friction shifting try the 
microshift 9spd swapped backwards Riv style with the left on the right and 
the right on the left. The left has a nice micro ratchet. The right can be 
used with 9 clicks for the front derail or change the mode to pure 
friction.  If, in the future, you decide you want 9s index you can always 
use them as designed.

I've seen the Microshift 9s with friction option for about $85 shipped. 
Make sure you get the kind with the friction option.

You can also try to find old suntour thumb shifters and do the same but 
then you will likely only find 7s option and the ebay prices for beat up 
old shifters can be just as high.

-Dave J


On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 11:38:30 AM UTC-5, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> I confirmed today for my own curiosity that Shimano bar end shifters will 
> fit on a Sunrace 9spd index thumby mount. I'm not sure it makes sense to do 
> so however as Shimano bar ends are expensive and you could just buy a 8 or 
> 9 spd index only Sun Race thumby. Or you for about the same price as 
> Shimano bar ends get a pair of Microshift 9spd thumbies with a pure 
> friction option (8 spd w friction is in the catalog but I've never seen one 
> for sale).
>
> Shimano shifters will not mount on the microshift thumby mounts. 
>
> Note that with index options you will have to mount them on top like 
> thumbshifters of old. Not on the inside like Riv does. 
>
> My plan with the Joe, when it comes, is to try it as stock, then slowly 
> replace everything but the frame and fork. 
>
> -Dave J
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 1:05:46 AM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Keith, she's doing okay but I can tell it's starting to wear on 
>> her. 2.5 weeks to go and the cast is off!  
>>
>> Sorry to rub that weather in, I use to hate when west coast people did 
>> that to me when I lived in the colder climates! I hope you guys dig out 
>> soon and you are rocking that Clem on some sweet trails!
>>
>> I'm not in a position to comment on your rear derailer theory, I'll leave 
>> that to the resident experts. 
>>
>> Cute dog El Sapo! I've taken my lab on some Clem rides and now every time 
>> I head for the garage with my helmet he tries to follow along! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[David Banzer]

Romulus?

On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 10:36:51 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Interesting bike names:
>
> Clem,
> Homer,
> Roscoe,
> Wilbury,
> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>
> Betty,
> Sam,
> Joe,
> Roadeo,
> Redwood,
> Simple One
> sound very all-American USA
>
> Gomez,
> Chevio/ut,
> Bleriot
> Rambouillet,
> Atlantis,
> Hilsen
> sound international
>
> Legolas,
> Bombadill,
> Rivendell,
> sound like the books/movies
>
> Hunqapillar
> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>
> Appaloosa and Glorious
> sound elegant and dreamy.
>
> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
> the blug post says.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Quickbeam is an omission. In with the Rivendell book/movie group?



On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Grant @ Rivendell 
> wrote:

Good idea! It might be a bit creepy, but Tad Lewd might fly as a model 
name...under the right circumstances. I am impressed and slightly surprised 
that the list is so long.

On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 8:36:51 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
Interesting bike names:

Clem,
Homer,
Roscoe,
Wilbury,
Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.

Betty,
Sam,
Joe,
Roadeo,
Redwood,
Simple One
sound very all-American USA

Gomez,
Chevio/ut,
Bleriot
Rambouillet,
Atlantis,
Hilsen
sound international

Legolas,
Bombadill,
Rivendell,
sound like the books/movies

Hunqapillar
sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.

Appaloosa and Glorious
sound elegant and dreamy.

Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like the 
blug post says.

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[RBW] Re: Clemmin' Around

[Dave Johnston]

I confirmed today for my own curiosity that Shimano bar end shifters will 
fit on a Sunrace 9spd index thumby mount. I'm not sure it makes sense to do 
so however as Shimano bar ends are expensive and you could just buy a 8 or 
9 spd index only Sun Race thumby. Or you for about the same price as 
Shimano bar ends get a pair of Microshift 9spd thumbies with a pure 
friction option (8 spd w friction is in the catalog but I've never seen one 
for sale).

Shimano shifters will not mount on the microshift thumby mounts. 

Note that with index options you will have to mount them on top like 
thumbshifters of old. Not on the inside like Riv does. 

My plan with the Joe, when it comes, is to try it as stock, then slowly 
replace everything but the frame and fork. 

-Dave J

On Monday, February 15, 2016 at 1:05:46 AM UTC-5, Tim Wood wrote:
>
> Thanks Keith, she's doing okay but I can tell it's starting to wear on 
> her. 2.5 weeks to go and the cast is off!  
>
> Sorry to rub that weather in, I use to hate when west coast people did 
> that to me when I lived in the colder climates! I hope you guys dig out 
> soon and you are rocking that Clem on some sweet trails!
>
> I'm not in a position to comment on your rear derailer theory, I'll leave 
> that to the resident experts. 
>
> Cute dog El Sapo! I've taken my lab on some Clem rides and now every time 
> I head for the garage with my helmet he tries to follow along! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What's in a Rivendell name?

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Good idea! It might be a bit creepy, but Tad Lewd might fly as a model 
name...under the right circumstances. I am impressed and slightly surprised 
that the list is so long.

On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 8:36:51 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Interesting bike names:
>
> Clem,
> Homer,
> Roscoe,
> Wilbury,
> Southern states sounding names, curiously, from west coast bike company.
>
> Betty,
> Sam,
> Joe,
> Roadeo,
> Redwood,
> Simple One
> sound very all-American USA
>
> Gomez,
> Chevio/ut,
> Bleriot
> Rambouillet,
> Atlantis,
> Hilsen
> sound international
>
> Legolas,
> Bombadill,
> Rivendell,
> sound like the books/movies
>
> Hunqapillar
> sounds like a wooly mammoth rampant on a field of single track.
>
> Appaloosa and Glorious
> sound elegant and dreamy.
>
> Hubbahubbah sounds friendly and funny and playful. Maybe a tad lewd, like 
> the blug post says.
>

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[RBW] CLEM-mentum

[Bill]

Maybe there's an electric motor hiding in the seat tube. This calls for a 
surprise technical inspection. That Walnut Creek Skunk Works is always up to 
something.

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[RBW] Stop, Swap and Save 2016

[WETH]

Chris,
February 12, 2017: http://www.stopswapandsave.com
It would be great fun to have you along.  Maybe you'd bring warm weather with 
you, too? Please! :)
All the best,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Rat Trap Pass and Atlantis w/fenders

[Tim Gavin]

I don't have an Atlantis to try RTPs on, but SKS P65 fenders are the proper
size for 26 x 2.3".

I've used them over 26 x 60 mm Super Motos and Fat Franks with great
success.

The P65 Longboards have excellent coverage.

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Frank Brose  wrote:

> Do the RTP tires fit with fenders with decent clearance? If anybody has
> them set up, what fenders are you using?
> Thanks,
> Frank Brose
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Re: [RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

[Chad]

Thanks for the info.  Your results are similar to mine.  I mounted the G-Ones 
on Velocity Aeroheads (also 20mm external).  They measured out to a true 35mm 
(700x35 nominal) and I have about 5mm at the brake bridges and about 2mm at the 
stays.  I am mostly likely going to sale these if you are interested in trying 
them.  Maybe I'll put them on my RB-T.

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Re: [RBW] Reviews and/or photos of Big Ben 700c X 55 tires?

[Tim Gavin]

On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Michael Cinibulk 
wrote:

> Has anyone taken calipers to the TBs? Are most MTB tires their stated
> width?
>
> Mike C


My 26 x 2.1" TBs measure 51 mm on Mavic 319 rims (23 mm external).  I think
most modern MTB tires measure their stated width on a modern, wide rim (>25
mm external).  I.e., their stated width is more like a "maximum" width on
the widest rims, and a narrower rim will limit the size a slight amount.

At least, this is my experience with Schwalbe, Continental, and WTB tires.
They seem to be a couple mm narrower than their stated width on classic 23
mm MTB rims.

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[RBW] Re: Sorta FS post: Bags in Martexin Ranger Tan fabric.

[David Banzer]

Last call on ranger tan bags. I'll be putting in the fabric order tomorrow 
morning, so if you're interested, contact me today to confirm.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:37:20 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Alright, this project is officially moving forward. If anyone else is 
> interested, I'll be ordering fabric early next week, so there's still time 
> to jump on this pre-order.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 10:11:49 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Hello RBW-OBiers, 
>> I have a lister interested in a bag in Martexin Ranger Tan waxed canvas 
>> to match an Acorn bag: http://acornbags.com/
>> I'm looking into seeing if others might be interested in bags made of the 
>> same fabric, either to match existing Acorn bags, or just because they like 
>> the color.
>> So, for those interested, I'd offer any of my standard model bags: 
>> treetop.bigcartel.com - to be made of the ranger tan waxed canvas, at 
>> the same prices of my standard bags made of water-repellent canvas. 
>> Martexin waxed canvas costs a lot more, so I'm offering this as a sort of 
>> pre-order. Bags would ship within 4-5 weeks.
>> Ideally, I'd need at least 5 pre-ordered bags.
>> Contact me offlist if you're interested.
>> Thanks,
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thunder Burt Wisdom...

[Tim Gavin]

My liteskin 26 x 2.1" Thunder Burts also measure 51 mm on Mavic 319 rims
(23 mm external).  Plenty of clearance under P65 fenders.

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> My light skin 29 x 2.1" TBs measure 2" (51mm). They are a weekish old, and
> have not been inflated over 20 psi, so I'd expect they'd stretch to 2.1"
> fairly easily with increased pressure.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

[Tim Gavin]

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:28 PM, Chad  wrote:

> Tim, how tight do those 38 Gravel Grinders fit?  I'm test fitting the new
> Schwalbe 700x35 G-Ones on my 53 Roadeo and they are just a little too tight
> at the chainstays for my comfort level.  Maybe 2mm on each side.
>
>
The Challenge Gravel Grinders are nominally 700 x 38.
Their actual measurement is 36 mm wide on Mavic Open Pro rims (20 mm
external).
The chainstay clearance is <2 mm with those tires, so a tire that actually
measures 38 mm may rub.
Brake arm clearance  is ~5 mm in front and rear under Tektro R539 calipers.

I was considering the 700 x 35 Schwalbe G-One or 700 x 32 Panaracer Gravel
King (slick tread) tires.  But, I found a barely used pair of 700 x 32
(knobby) Gravel Kings on eBay, so I'll roll on those.

I haven't test-ridden the Roadeo yet, with either tire.  The streets are
way too sloppy here for a non-fendered bike.
I did ride ~20 miles on my fat bike yesterday, in 2" of fresh powder.

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

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