[RBW] Re: FS: 65cm Homer Hilsen

[Sam Wanless]

dave,

what's your saddle height? and pbh, for that matter?

thanks,
sam

On Saturday, February 13, 2016 at 1:48:59 PM UTC-8, David Craig wrote:
>
> Hey, Folks.
>
> Haven't posted for quite awhile. I've been on a medically prompted hiatus 
> from cycling for the past couple of years. The wife and I will be hitting 
> the road in a couple of weeks for a year long sabbatical, and I've decided 
> to pass on my HH to somebody who might be able to use it rather than store 
> it.
>
> The bike is in great condition - pictured here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45341162@N04/albums/72157626013424216
>
> Couple of changes from the picture - the bike no longer has a leather seat 
> and it now sports a 7cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem instead of the riser - 
> otherwise, it's the same bike pictured.
>
> I can provide detailed photos and build info to interested buyers. I'm 
> looking for $1500.00 OBO for the entire bike. Quite a deal, but you'd need 
> to be able to pick the bike up in central California. I don't have the time 
> to ship it. I'm located in the Gold County near Yosemite and I'd be willing 
> to drive to a couple of hours from here to deliver the bike.
>
> I've sold several items to list members over the years, so I believe I've 
> got a good reputation as a straight shooter and honest guy. 
>
> Remember, please reply via a PM instead of through the list. I'll get back 
> to you ASAP.
>
> Dave
>

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[RBW] small sized wool clothing for sale

[Jenny]

Keep warm and toasty with wool clothes!  Prices do not include shipping.  
Shipping will be via USPS.

- Ibex, used, Arm Warmers, Size S, Grey, $10
- Ibex, new, Ws, Size S, 100% merino wool, Giro Short Sleeve Cycling 
Jersey, lavender, $40
- Ibex, new, Ms, Size S, 100% merino wool, Short Sleeve U-Sixty t-shirt, 
pale blue, $30
- Patagonia, new, Ws, Size S, 100% merino wool, Wool 2 t-shirt, black, $30
- Patagonia, new, Ws, Size S, 100% merino wool, Wool 2 crew long sleeve 
shirt, black, $35
- Patagonia, new, Ws, Size S, 100% merino wool, Wool 4 Classic Hoody, 
black, $50
- Ibex, new, Ws, Size S, 100% merino wool, Echo Sprint, long sleeve, 
quarter zip, deep sky blue, $35
- Patagonia, new, Ws, Size M, 100% merino wool, Wool 2 crew long sleeve 
shirt, red, $35
- Patagonia, new, Ws, Size S, 80% merino wool/20% polyester, Wool 2 
lightweight zip neck, white/green, $40

Pictures
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0EYsXDRq0bMmHa

Jenny
Washington, D.C.

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[RBW] Re: ROSCO mailing list

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I got the email too and at first thought it was back just to me.  I also think 
the high number of people signed up does not represent anywhere near what will 
eventually be buying a bike.  Take me for instance.  I am curious to see what 
they come up with but on the other hand am pretty much decided to,get a joe 
Appaloosa.  I would not then buy another bike in the summer or even the fall at 
that point.  Good he has generated some interest though. Always a positive.

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[RBW] Re: Removing shellac on paint

[Steven Butcher]

Drew, one more suggestion would be to try WD-40 which contains some 
solvents.  I've used it to remove dried Frame Saver over spray and did not 
experience any harm to the paint.  It washes off easily and allows 
application of a wax or polish.  

On Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 10:57:12 AM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>
> I worked a couple of bikes through handlebar swaps and got apparently got 
> a little carried away with shellacking, but didn't notice/care for about a 
> week. Tried denatured alcohol and it sorts of worked for some thicker 
> spots, but the thinner areas are giving me grief. Now it seems like the 
> removal process is dulling the paint in the frustrating area. 
>
> So what do you use to remove shellac?
>
> Is there a wax or polish that people use to protect or restore paint on 
> bikes?
> Also, I do get the beausage thing. Battlescars and stuff I can abide, but 
> this is just sloppy work on my part.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 58cm

[David Podboy]

An update: I had someone back out of purchasing the Frame/Fork/Headset/BB, 
so I am looking to just sell that now. The frame has been professionally 
boxed and is ready to ship.

$800 OBO + shipping

Thanks!
David

On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 7:57:12 PM UTC-8, David Podboy wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I’m selling my SimpleOne 58cm. The bike is too small for me, and I’m 
> getting ready to move, so I need to clear things out.
>
> Bike is in great shape with some blemishes and scratches from use. The 
> previous owner used some touch up paint that is close but not an exact 
> match to the original paint. There are no dents or rust. I’ve tried to show 
> the marks in the photos.
>
> Pics: https://goo.gl/photos/gxPSVnVooDbTThhy8
>
> Components:
> Nitto Albatross
> Nitto Dirtdrop stem, 80mm
> Ergon GP1 Biokork grips
> Shimano R550 Brake Levers
> FSA Metropolis crankset with 45t chainring
> 18T Shimano freewheel on main side, 19T fixed on the flip side
> Shimano CT91 cantilever brakes
> MKS Touring Lite pedals
> Mavic Open Sport rims
> Schwalbe Delta Cruiser 700 x 35c tires
> Bells
> Kickstand
> WTB Saddle
>
> $1100 OBO (includes bike shop packing) + actual shipping costs.
>
> I’d like to sell the bike complete, but let me know if you are interested 
> in Frame/Fork/Headset/BB only.
>
> Ships from Portland, OR. If you are near the Portland or Seattle areas, 
> I’m happy to meet half way for pickup.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks!
> David
>

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[RBW] looking for a Nitto 34f front rack, or reassurance, or advice or something

[Robert Liebermann]

Having decided I really like my current Surly front rack's configuration 
(high/low possibility, top rack, sturdy - I like to carry my tent and pad 
on the front rack top). I like sturdy and don't mind heavy! 

I don't like those racks with the 'butterfly wing' (my term) lowrider 
add-ons (e.g., F25) that seem to push the bag outward from the hub (and 
can't figure out why that'd be useful, unless one has really huge QR levers 
or wants looks like 1950s FR designs) 

So I decided a while back I'd get a Nitto 34f for a new Woodrup I'm 
getting, to have something a bit fancier than the Surly's ugly soft rub-off 
paint. Nobody else seems to have anything as 'cool' for my needs. 

Looking over some Nitto, Rivendell, etc. stuff the other day I found the 
34f isn't in the2016 Nitto catalog, Rivendell's out , and can't find one 
for sale elsewhere (Ben's used to have them but have been out since last 
summer). Can't tell how much of this related to R's statement that it's 
their design so confused. 

I added my name to Rivendell's let me know if it comes back' list, but have 
never had much luck emailing these sorts of questions to them directly. 

Does anybody have one to sell, or know where to get one, or have 
commentary? 

Is it likely these'll come back at Rivendell, or should I panic buy 
where/when I can? (an increasingly useful 'modern world' skill I learned 
living in the USSR!) Ideally they'll be available into the autumn of 2016, 
which is when I really need it (and when I'm not in alaska). 

Also considering a Tubus 'cosmo' rear rack (again, to replace my existing 
surly rear), since the Nitto 33R seems to push the pannier back way, way 
too far. Wish they'd copy the Surly design in that nice Nitto way! 

Thanks,

robert 'not just another nice rack' liebermann
fox, alaska

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[RBW] Re: Surly Nice rear rack on Atlantis?

[Ben]

I had one on a 68cm Atlantis. I liked the big wide platform and sturdy 
industrial looks. Like Tim says it is very adjustable. I was running linear 
pull brakes and it took a bit of a tweak to the mounting at the top of the 
seat stays to  keep the arms of the brakes from hitting the mounting rods.
Ben  

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 2:25:05 PM UTC-8, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> Anyone every mount a Surly Nice rear rack onto an Atlantis?  Any issues w/ 
> fit?
>
>
>
> CHEERS!
> Wally
>

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[RBW] Re: Does a MacBook Air 13 in a protective sleeve fit inside the Sackville Hub Area Bag?

[Phil Bickford]

Rene - I've no specific experience with a MacBook Air but I almost wrecked 
my old MacBook on it's first commute.  The cover and shell material is not 
as effective as it could be. I wrapped my MacBook in some lightish thin 
foam and placed that in a neoprene zip bag (as the one they sell as cover 
bags) then placed that in my rear pannier standing vertically.  The pannier 
has only one protrusion inside, from the fastener of the lower hook that 
holds the pannier firm onto the side of the rack.   I arrived at work with 
all intact but when booting up it showed what could have been a dead spot 
in the screen.  

While running it's not obvious, but shut down the screen shows a distorted 
area where the MacBook bumped along in the padded package.  I'm not sure 
but I suspect the only safe way to transport these soft sided machines 
would be the appropriately sized otter box  with hard sides.  The folks at 
RBW may have a better alternative, most of them commute with Apple products.

Phil B
Sonoma County



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[RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

[Evan E.]

Hi Jeremy,

Four of us will meet you at Capitol Garage at about 5pm on Saturday. (We'll 
be driving back to the Bay Area soon afterwards, so no ride for us.) Thanks 
for organizing this. Looking forward to it!

Evan

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[RBW] Re: My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

[Don Compton]

PERFECT

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 1:10:54 PM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I finished the build of my grey/kidney Roadeo on Saturday, and shod her 
> with 700 x 38 Challenge Gravel Grinder tires (which measure ~36 mm on Mavic 
> Open Pro rims).  I took it for a short ride and took some pictures:  
> http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Tim_Gavin/library/Rivendell%20Roadeo
>
>
> Yesterday (Sunday), I replaced these tires with 700 x 32 Panaracer Gravel 
> King (knobby) tires and took it for a shakedown ride of 34 miles (in ~34 
> degree weather).
>
> No pictures yet, but it rode great.  Fast, but still reasonably 
> comfortable.  For those that are interested, here's my Strava record 
> .
>  
>  
>
> I need to dial in the pressures on the Gravel Kings, but they rolled well 
> at ~70-75 psi.  The small knobs on the tread look aggressive but are nearly 
> silent on the road (just a light hum).  The GKs give me a little more 
> clearance than the GGs; which is nice because there were sticks all over 
> the trail, especially the further I got from town.
>
> The first thing I'm going to change is to lower the gearing.  I borrowed 
> all the parts (except brake calipers and tires) for this build from my 
> Giordana XL-Eco, which made this a reasonably-economical new bike.  The 
> Giordana was a 90s road racer; therefore, the 53/39 crank.  I don't think I 
> shifted higher than 53 x 16, even on the downhill/downwind portion.
>
> I'm interested in a subcompact 46/30 or 48/32 double crank.  If anyone on 
> the list has such an item for sale, please PM me.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>

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Re: [RBW] Stealing bikes

[Justin August]

Proof: https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/justinaugust/25206396235/

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Re: [RBW] Stealing bikes

[René Sterental]

Ha ha ha ha!!!

On Monday, February 22, 2016, LeahFoy  wrote:

> Pre-Clem, my husband stole my Betty and took her to the park with our sons
> to play ball. My Betty has a basket just meant to portage lovely things
> like kickballs to lovely places like the park. Seemed like a good idea to
> him. Oh, the anxiety! The hysterics! The horror of knowing he'd never, ever
> lock the bike up! I gave him an earful when he returned.
>
> You have married a good woman.
>
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[RBW] Some Items Sold, One Still Hopefully Waiting for Its Forever Home

[Eric Norris]

Madden h’bar bag and Noodle bars are on their way to new homes. Very nice Soma 
seat post still looking for a home.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

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[RBW] Re: FS: Garage sale! Wheels, Tires, Fork, Pedals, Derailleurs, Bike Bag, Complete MTB...

[Jeremy Till]

Bump, lower prices on most everything, feel free to make me an offer. Come 
pick up some cool stuff while you're in town for NAHBS!

-27" (630mm) fixed gear rear wheel, $45. Sun CR-18 rim, Origin-8 branded 
Formula sealed bearing, double sided fixed gear hub, Wheelsmith 14g 
spokes.  Currently spaced at 126mm but can be spaced up or down by adding 
or removing spacers on both sides; plenty of axle length to even go up to 
130mm.  Handbuilt by me, not a whole lot of miles ridden before it was put 
in storage, I recently trued it and checked the tension.  Bearings spin 
smoothly.

-26" (559mm) rim brake front wheel, $50. Mavic XM 317 rim laced to Shimano 
LX hub with DT 14g spokes. Handbuilt by QBP's wheel shop, formerly 
"Handspun," now "Quality Wheels."  Used by my wife on the front wheel of 
her commuter for 2.5 years until I built her a dyno wheel this past fall. 
Runs true and spins well. 

-Front and rear first gen Shimano Deore "Deerhead" derailleurs (FD- and 
RD-M700), $40. Perfect functionally, OK cosmetically.  Came on an old 
Takara touring bike I converted to fixed gear.  Cool old derailleurs, I 
always thought I'd find a use for them, but honestly all of my derailleur 
bikes are indexed these days.

-4 pairs of Time ATAC pedals, $20 each or $70 takes all of them.  All of my 
old clipless pedals, I now ride flats exclusively. One pair of the old 
(original?) grey plastic ATAC's with the large inboard bearing, two pairs 
of the "Alium" model including one silver "HP" pair, and one pair of circa 
2006 ATAC XE's.  All are functional, and the three older pairs still spin 
beautifully, with no play in the springs, although the RH black Alium is 
missing the dust cap. Ironically, the newer XE's have a little bit of 
bearing play and play in the springs.  
 
-Look Bike Bag $40.  Large main pocket for frame/fork and side wheel 
pockets with enough room for two wheelsets.  I bought this in Luxembourg 
during a trip to Europe so I could take my bike on the French TGV trains. 
 I used it hard for a month and then for a couple of subsequent trips 
involving flying with my bike, but since then It's mainly been used for 
storing various frames, wheels and tires.  It does have some tears and 
holes in fabric and cardboard stiffener on the bottom, but with some 
judicious patching it would be a great and cool way to transport your bike. 
 (Sorry folks, I can't ship this one). 

-1" threadless Surly Cross-Check fork $35.  Black powder coat, no logos, 
sloping fork crown, ~26cm of steerer, star nut installed.  This was the 
fork on my Trek touring bike for many thousands of miles before I retired 
that frame, so it's well used but in good shape.  There's some areas on the 
upper half of the steerer that seem to have been worn a little bit 
smoother, possibly by headset spacers and a slightly loose headset, but 
there are no scratches or gouges.  
-1 pair WTB "Allterrainasaurus" 700x40mm tires, $30.  Little or no use, 
always stored inside, good shape, wire bead. These have a knobby tread 
intended for mixed surfaces, a precursor to the current "gravel" tires 
currently in vogue.  These used to be my go-to summer tire on my touring 
bike; they have good volume and roll well on pavement while providing 
confidence off-road.  Back then we called it "mixed-terrain" riding.  
-1 Kenda "Slant Six" 29x2" wire bead tire, $10. XC tread with somewhat 
minimal knobs; this is a 30TPI OEM spec tire so it's on the heavy side. 
 Used for less than a year on the front of my MTB before I swapped to 
something lighter and with more aggressive tread.  Plenty of life left.  

Those are the parts.  The bike pictured is a practically NOS 2008 Jamis 
Dakota Sport aluminum hardtail MTB, 17", which we bought for my wife last 
summer.  She only rode it a couple of times on short MTB rides, and 
recently she bought a Clem Smith Jr. from Rivendell that she can ride 
off-road with, so this one is going.  9spd Deore/XT drivetrain, Shimano 
hydro disc brakes, RS Tora fork.  I'd do $400 for an iBOB.


On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 8:55:05 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Hey Folks-
>
> Pressure from the wife and the need to offset costs of some recent 
> purchases/ upcoming projects means I'm doing a bit of spring cleaning out 
> in the garage.  Here's a list of stuff for sale.  I'm in Sacramento, CA and 
> often in the SF Bay Area, so local pickup is my preferred method of 
> delivery, but I'll ship a lot of the items, especially if you buy multiple 
> things.  Everything is OBO.  
>
> Here's the pictures: 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsktdoi5T
>
> Here the list: 
> -27" (630mm) fixed gear rear wheel, $60. Sun CR-18 rim, Origin-8 branded 
> Formula sealed bearing, double sided fixed gear hub, Wheelsmith 14g 
> spokes.  Currently spaced at 126mm but can be spaced up or down by adding 
> or removing spacers on both sides; plenty of axle length to even go up to 
> 130mm.  Handbuilt by me, not a whole lot of miles ridden before it was put 
> in 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Brooks, Soma, Panaracer, Schwalbe, Tubus...the good stuff!

[Antonioni Vicente]

tim-

sale poending on both tubus racks.

i'll letcha know if anything changes.

best,
a

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Ant-
>
> OK, sorry for being indecisive, but I'm interested in the Tubus Tara if
> it's still available.  It would make it easy to add a pannier rack to my
> bikes (well, much easier than mounting the Nitto Campee classic I have).
>
> Shipping to 52404
>
> Thanks,
> Tim Gavin
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, ant ritchey 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Cane Creek levers SOLD
>> Deore DX front derailleur SOLD
>> Shimano SPD platforms SOLD
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-8, ant ritchey wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm a renter here in Portland, Oregon.  The place I've been in for 3
>>> years just sold for 500k over what the owner paid back in 1989.  We've
>>> received our GTFO notice, so like it or not- spring cleaning comes early
>>> for me this year.
>>>
>>>
>>> PARTS
>>> -Soma Sparrowbars, silver, 520mm width, 22.2mm clamp, lil scratched &
>>> tape gunk.  $15
>>> -Shimano 600 crankset, Tri Color, double 172.5 w/ 53 & 42t rings,
>>> self-extracting bolts & covers, very good condition.  $50
>>> -Cane Creek SCR-5, brand new gum hoods, levers a lil scratched.  $20
>>> -Shimano Deore front derailer FD-M590, black clamp w/ silver cage, brand
>>> new.  $25
>>> -Shimano Deore rear derailleur set, RD-m591 black, brand new.  $35
>>> -Shimano front derailer FD-2203, black clamp w/ silver cage, for a
>>> triple 31.8, good condition.  $15
>>> -Shimano Deore front derailer FD-M591, black clamp w/ silver cage, for a
>>> triple, 31.8 clamp.  $15
>>> -Shimano Deore rear derailer RD-M591, black, some scratches but works
>>> perfectly, 9 spd.  $20
>>> -Deore DX front derailer, 31.8 clamp w/ shim for 1 1/8", for a triple,
>>> good condition.  $15
>>> -Nitto Dirt Drop stem, MT-5, came stock on '86 MB-2, 125mm quill, 110mm
>>> extension, 25.4 clamp, good condition.  $20
>>> -Nitto stem, vintage...70's era?, 150mm quill, 70mm reach, 26.0 clamp,
>>> good condition.  $20
>>> (hex bolt quill tightening style; having trouble finding images of this
>>> particluar onevia google search...)
>>> -Nitto mountain riser bars, B801-FAA, came stock on '86 MB-2, good
>>> condition.  $10
>>> -Sugino chainring, silver 44t, good condition, 8/9/10 spd.  $8
>>> -Panaracer Pasela 700x32, gumwall, a little dirty but basically brand
>>> new.  $30/pair
>>> -Schwalbe Marathon 700x32, <1k miles, black.  $25/pair
>>> -Dia Compe Guidonnet brake levers DC-139, 23.8 clamp, silver & very good
>>> condition.  $20
>>> -Tubus Tara front lowrider rack, silver, good condition.  $65
>>> -Tubus Logo Evo rear rack, silver, shows signs of wear but functions
>>> perfectly.  $80
>>> -Shimano Dual Platform pedals w/ one sided SPD, silver, good condition.
>>>  $20
>>> -Paul thumbies, black, 25.4 clamp, very good condition.  $40
>>> -IRD Defiant track cranks, beautiful cranks in very good condition, 170
>>> mm w/ a 46t ring, 144bcd.  $85
>>> -Sugino SG75 track cranks w/ SG75 bottom bracket, 165mm w/ 49t ring,
>>> 144bcd, arms show some signs of wear but otherwise in very good
>>> condition; BB: square taper, 120mm spindle, zero pitting and in very good
>>> condition, prettiest BB ever, IMO, NJS stamped, etc. $195 for everything
>>> -Brooks B17 Select, honey w/ hammered rivets & black rails, basically
>>> brand new (<500 miles) $130
>>> -3t stem, silver & very good condition,140mm quill, 110mm extension,
>>> 26.0 clamp $20
>>> -Forte Campus pedal, double-sided SPD style, fair condition but function
>>> perfectly $15
>>>
>>>
>>> Trade interests:  aluminum heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages,
>>> Schmidt Edulux II & SON hub, Sackville Backabike Bags in tan, Carradice
>>> sadlebags and/orBagman Expedition,
>>>
>>>
>>> Prices do not do not do not include shipping.  Paypal is preferred, but
>>> I'm open to other methods of payment.  Paypal will be conducted through an
>>> email address not my own (my girlfriend's) so I'll provide that when
>>> necessary.  "Send money to Friend & Fam" or you pay the fee.  Happy to
>>> strike ya a deal if ya want a buncha stuff!
>>>
>>> Pictures or more details available via email (
>>> likewisewildf...@gmail.com) or text ( 7too4-7five7-935ate) or PM
>>> (private message)
>>> For those of you whose phones are "smart" and can receive image texts
>>> from iPhones, I'mma say that'll be easiest.  Someone give me a friendly
>>> holler if any o' this stuff is ignorantly priced.
>>>
>>> Apologies for the classic RBW/iBOB crosspost...
>>>
>>> I'm in Portland, Oregon (N/Eliot) if you'd like to come by and take a
>>> look.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Another sad reminder that this is not just idle conversation--these are
extremely experienced cyclists including a former Randonneurs of USA
president Mike Dayton who is reported to be in a coma:

Four Cyclists Hit in North Carolina While Riding Single File on a Rural Road

*All four bicyclists were transported to Wake Medical Center in Raleigh
with serious injuries.*

*The four bicyclists all have non-life-threatening injuries and were
identified as: Christopher Graham, age 34, Joel Arthur Lawrence, age 57,
Lynn Lashley, 57 and  Michael Dayton, age 60, according to officials.*

*Donnie Marie Williams, the driver in the crash, did stop at the scene
after the crash, officials said.*

*Williams’ daughter came to the scene and told WNCN that her mother, who
was driving, didn’t see the bicyclists until it was too late.*

*Her mom was too distraught to speak. The daughter, Tiffany McElveen, says
her mother was coming up over the hill and didn’t see the cyclists. A car
was passing in the other direction and she panicked.*

*“…she didn’t know what to do. She didn’t know whether to hit the other car
or to try to miss the bicyclists,” McElveen said.*

*McElveen said that her mother was “hysterical” when she called her to the
scene.*

*“I really couldn’t hardly understand her. She just kept saying ‘Tiffany I
hit somebody, I hit somebody.’ She said ‘come down here, come down here.’ I
said ‘where you at’. She told me like ten times, but I couldn’t understand
what she was saying because she was so hysterical,” Tiffany McElveen said
of her mother, who was not injured.*

Full article:
http://wnct.com/2016/02/21/4-bicyclists-in-serious-condition-after-...


*Highway Patrol said two of the victims suffered head injuries.*

*The victims were listed in the following conditions at WakeMed:*

*Joel Lawrence, stable*
*Lynn Lashley, critical*
*Christopher Graham, stable*
*Mike Dayton, critical*

Additional article:
http://abc11.com/news/cyclists-in-hospital-after-being-hit-by-car-i...


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[RBW] FS: 60cm Bombadil Complete

[Justin Schoop]

Open to trades. Prefer a Saluki, Ram, Rom, or AHH

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stealing bikes

[LeahFoy]

Pre-Clem, my husband stole my Betty and took her to the park with our sons to 
play ball. My Betty has a basket just meant to portage lovely things like 
kickballs to lovely places like the park. Seemed like a good idea to him. Oh, 
the anxiety! The hysterics! The horror of knowing he'd never, ever lock the 
bike up! I gave him an earful when he returned. 

You have married a good woman. 

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[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Ron Mc]

I have had exactly 4 encounters with motorists who believe cyclists didn't 
belong on their road.  The only one I took to task invited me, and began by 
terrorizing my teenage daughter.  
I have also seen many more cyclists who "give us a bad name" by blasting 
through major intersections when they should be plugging into the traffic 
signal.  

My friend who last lived out here in the boonies longer, though, has had 
bottles and beer cans thrown at him.  

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[RBW] Acouple Gems

[masmojo]

Here's the other one. 
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view=172103200217=web 

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[RBW] Acouple Gems

[masmojo]

Icertianly hope somebody can give these a good home I've had me eye on them but 
there's no romm in the stable. 
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view=201521301126=web 

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[RBW] Re: Surly Nice rear rack on Atlantis?

[Wally Estrella]

I have a Surly Nice rear rack now, so I was just going to move it over when 
I get the Atlantis.  Yes, it is pretty heavy duty.

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 5:25:05 PM UTC-5, Wally Estrella wrote:
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> Hi Folks:
>
> Anyone every mount a Surly Nice rear rack onto an Atlantis?  Any issues w/ 
> fit?
>
>
>
> CHEERS!
> Wally
>

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[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Lungimsam]

I am disappointed in the harsh language and statements here.
This forum is one of the few havens online where I have been able to come 
and read interesting threads about cycling without having to see this stuff.
I hope we can clean it up, please.

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Re: [RBW] Surly Nice rear rack on Atlantis?

[Tim Gavin]

Not personally, but I saw one mounted on a Gunnar Grand Tour yesterday.
I've mounted one on my fat bike; I spread the legs to fit over the 190 OLD
rear end and then it fit just fine.

The Surly Nice rear rack is very adjustable for height and reach, so it
should fit without problem.

The Surly Nice rear rack is on the heavier-duty end of the rack scale, so
it's a bit heavy and may be more capability than you need.

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> Hi Folks:
>
> Anyone every mount a Surly Nice rear rack onto an Atlantis?  Any issues w/
> fit?
>
>
>
> CHEERS!
> Wally
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[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[masmojo]

Not to play devils advocate,  but simply to say that simply calling the peiple 
rude or stupid or assholes or whatever may be accurate, but it our opinions are 
xolored by our experiences, those drivers that are nit bike riders truely don't 
understand qhat we are doing there, they think we are crazy or whatever. 
Thing is, both views are right.  Part of the problem is that even though 
bicycles are generally legal on most roads and you have the right to be there,  
it's more than likely that the road was not designed with bicycles in mind 
(obviously right?) So, one can kind of understand their frustration; I do my 
best to stear clear of areas like this, but truth is you can't always and since 
you can't you will have to make the best of the situation,  I fear there is no 
real solution short of rebuilding the roads to accommodate both and no doubt 
that is not going to happen. 
One final thought in this; sometimes we cyclists are our own worst enemies.  
There is a traffic signal that I sit at several times a week it is a route that 
is also popular with cyclists.  On the other side on this intersection a bike 
path starts,  its 8+ feet wide & never busy, yet I can't count the number of 
times I have been behind a cyclist who when the light changes continues on 
using the street rather then the bike path! As a cyclist myself I am confounded 
by this, because if I have a choice I will use the bike path every time & I can 
only imagine how a driver who does not cycle would feel!?
Personally, if my local government puts in cycling infrastructure I make a 
point to use it, this helps me, but also soothes the nerves of motorists. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

[René Sterental]

I'll be at the show on Saturday, but I don't think I'll be able to meet
afterwards as I have to drive home earlier in the afternoon. Will be there
on Friday evening though, as I'm working in Sacramento all-day on Friday.

René

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Patrick Kelly  wrote:

> Erik Nohlin (doesn't ride riv, but hangs with people that do, I think)
> posted about doing an SF to SAC journey.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCIrSQS_Ss/
>
> "We're riding from SF to SAC for NAHBS. 08.15 ferry from Ferry
> Building. Stop for liquid lunch at Heretic and hydration at Bikedog.
> Chill - No drop. Arrive at NAHBS 4pm ish. Who else is on?"
>
> Not included in the text, but in the photo is "this friday".
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> > I’m planning to be at the show Saturday. Let me know where and when the
> Riv
> > event will be.
> >
> > --Eric Norris
> > campyonly...@me.com
> > www.campyonly.com
> > campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Feb 21, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> >
> > Bump.  Who's coming to NAHBS?  I'm organizing a little git together for
> > Riv/iBOB folks on Saturday evening.
> >
> > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:18:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey Folks-
> >>
> >> Just bought my tickets for NAHBS, definitely getting excited about this
> >> event!  As a resident of Sacramento, I thought I'd organize a meetup
> for my
> >> friends on the Rivendell Owner's Bunch and Internet-BOB group, and share
> >> some of the fun stuff about living and riding in Sac.  Towards that
> end, how
> >> does this sound?
> >>
> >> Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride
> >> A short ride at a social pace, at most 1 hour long
> >> Meet: 5-5:30pm at Capitol Garage Restaurant & Bar, corner of 15th & K
> St,
> >> just next to the Convention Center.
> >> End: New Helvetia Brewing Company, 18th & Broadway (south end of
> Midtown,
> >> north end of Upper Land Park, easy biking distance back to Midtown,
> >> Downtown, Amtrak, etc.)
> >>
> >> I'll try to get to Capitol Garage around 5, so people who need respite
> >> from the show floor can join me there for a pre-ride pint, and we'll get
> >> rolling around 5:30.  We'll take an easy ride along the river, around
> to New
> >> Helvetia, my local watering hole, where they brew many fine ales and
> lagers.
> >> Social pace, no drop, everyone welcome, etc. etc.
> >>
> >> I know there's numerous other social events planned for that evening and
> >> the whole weekend, so my intention is to make a relatively casual event
> so
> >> people can come and go as they please.  Say hi at the meetup, come for
> all
> >> or none of the ride, meet us at New Helvetia, whatever.  If there's
> still a
> >> good group sticking around at New Helvetia, we can retire to my place
> which
> >> is very close to there, and my wife has offered to grill us up some
> grub.
> >>
> >> If this sounds like fun, please RSVP so I have a rough idea of count. If
> >> we're a significant crowd, I'll warn the businesses of incoming bike
> nerds.
> >> If you need to borrow a bike, PM me with your size and I'll see what I
> can
> >> do.
> >>
> >> See you soon,
> >>
> >> Jeremy
> >
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[RBW] Surly Nice rear rack on Atlantis?

[Wally Estrella]

Hi Folks:

Anyone every mount a Surly Nice rear rack onto an Atlantis?  Any issues w/ 
fit?



CHEERS!
Wally

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[RBW] My first Roadeo, built and ridden!

[Carla Waugh]

Beautiful bike/whip

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[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Ron Mc]

Back to my friend who hugs the right at all costs.  I believe that's asking 
drivers to pass you when it may not be safe. 

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 9:29:27 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Well over 99% of drivers are going to respond well to all we do.  The 
> blinkies are polite for all drivers, but are especially useful to alter the 
> dim-witted ones.  For the much less than 1% means drivers, our only hope is 
> an escape plan.  
>
> My friend rides in the broken glass and storm drain scoops, but I will 
> always be far enough out to challenge for the lane and make drivers think.  
>

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[RBW] Re: NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

[Neil]

I'm planning on being there Friday. Question for the OP: best late lunch 
and beer joints near the convention center? Probably riding home to Rocklin 
afterwards so can't imbibe too much, but would like to sample the suds and 
grab a sammy somewhere. Seems like there are tons of choices down there 
these days.

Also, for those attending...I saw on MTBR that in years past, the day-of 
ticket line can be long, like an hour or more. Seems hard to believe, but I 
never been. Up until COB Tuesday, I think you can buy them online: 
https://nahbs.mycustomevent.com/ShoppingCart.aspx?com=detailview=1348=1351=260#Detail

Also, I'm assuming the have protected valet bike parking? Seems impossible 
they would not...

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:18:11 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Hey Folks-
>
> Just bought my tickets for NAHBS, definitely getting excited about this 
> event!  As a resident of Sacramento, I thought I'd organize a meetup for my 
> friends on the Rivendell Owner's Bunch and Internet-BOB group, and share 
> some of the fun stuff about living and riding in Sac.  Towards that end, 
> how does this sound?
>
> Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride
> A short ride at a social pace, at most 1 hour long
> Meet: 5-5:30pm at Capitol Garage Restaurant & Bar 
> , corner of 15th & K St, just next to the 
> Convention Center. 
> End: New Helvetia Brewing Company , 18th & 
> Broadway (south end of Midtown, north end of Upper Land Park, easy biking 
> distance back to Midtown, Downtown, Amtrak, etc.)
>
> I'll try to get to Capitol Garage around 5, so people who need respite 
> from the show floor can join me there for a pre-ride pint, and we'll get 
> rolling around 5:30.  We'll take an easy ride along the river, around to 
> New Helvetia, my local watering hole, where they brew many fine ales and 
> lagers.  Social pace, no drop, everyone welcome, etc. etc. 
>
> I know there's numerous other social events planned for that evening and 
> the whole weekend, so my intention is to make a relatively casual event so 
> people can come and go as they please.  Say hi at the meetup, come for all 
> or none of the ride, meet us at New Helvetia, whatever.  If there's still a 
> good group sticking around at New Helvetia, we can retire to my place which 
> is very close to there, and my wife has offered to grill us up some grub. 
>
> If this sounds like fun, please RSVP so I have a rough idea of count. If 
> we're a significant crowd, I'll warn the businesses of incoming bike nerds. 
>  If you need to borrow a bike, PM me with your size and I'll see what I can 
> do.  
>
> See you soon,
>
> Jeremy
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Brooks, Soma, Panaracer, Schwalbe, Tubus...the good stuff!

[Tim Gavin]

Ant-

OK, sorry for being indecisive, but I'm interested in the Tubus Tara if
it's still available.  It would make it easy to add a pannier rack to my
bikes (well, much easier than mounting the Nitto Campee classic I have).

Shipping to 52404

Thanks,
Tim Gavin



On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, ant ritchey 
wrote:

>
> Cane Creek levers SOLD
> Deore DX front derailleur SOLD
> Shimano SPD platforms SOLD
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-8, ant ritchey wrote:
>>
>> I'm a renter here in Portland, Oregon.  The place I've been in for 3
>> years just sold for 500k over what the owner paid back in 1989.  We've
>> received our GTFO notice, so like it or not- spring cleaning comes early
>> for me this year.
>>
>>
>> PARTS
>> -Soma Sparrowbars, silver, 520mm width, 22.2mm clamp, lil scratched &
>> tape gunk.  $15
>> -Shimano 600 crankset, Tri Color, double 172.5 w/ 53 & 42t rings,
>> self-extracting bolts & covers, very good condition.  $50
>> -Cane Creek SCR-5, brand new gum hoods, levers a lil scratched.  $20
>> -Shimano Deore front derailer FD-M590, black clamp w/ silver cage, brand
>> new.  $25
>> -Shimano Deore rear derailleur set, RD-m591 black, brand new.  $35
>> -Shimano front derailer FD-2203, black clamp w/ silver cage, for a triple
>> 31.8, good condition.  $15
>> -Shimano Deore front derailer FD-M591, black clamp w/ silver cage, for a
>> triple, 31.8 clamp.  $15
>> -Shimano Deore rear derailer RD-M591, black, some scratches but works
>> perfectly, 9 spd.  $20
>> -Deore DX front derailer, 31.8 clamp w/ shim for 1 1/8", for a triple,
>> good condition.  $15
>> -Nitto Dirt Drop stem, MT-5, came stock on '86 MB-2, 125mm quill, 110mm
>> extension, 25.4 clamp, good condition.  $20
>> -Nitto stem, vintage...70's era?, 150mm quill, 70mm reach, 26.0 clamp,
>> good condition.  $20
>> (hex bolt quill tightening style; having trouble finding images of this
>> particluar onevia google search...)
>> -Nitto mountain riser bars, B801-FAA, came stock on '86 MB-2, good
>> condition.  $10
>> -Sugino chainring, silver 44t, good condition, 8/9/10 spd.  $8
>> -Panaracer Pasela 700x32, gumwall, a little dirty but basically brand
>> new.  $30/pair
>> -Schwalbe Marathon 700x32, <1k miles, black.  $25/pair
>> -Dia Compe Guidonnet brake levers DC-139, 23.8 clamp, silver & very good
>> condition.  $20
>> -Tubus Tara front lowrider rack, silver, good condition.  $65
>> -Tubus Logo Evo rear rack, silver, shows signs of wear but functions
>> perfectly.  $80
>> -Shimano Dual Platform pedals w/ one sided SPD, silver, good condition.
>>  $20
>> -Paul thumbies, black, 25.4 clamp, very good condition.  $40
>> -IRD Defiant track cranks, beautiful cranks in very good condition, 170
>> mm w/ a 46t ring, 144bcd.  $85
>> -Sugino SG75 track cranks w/ SG75 bottom bracket, 165mm w/ 49t ring,
>> 144bcd, arms show some signs of wear but otherwise in very good
>> condition; BB: square taper, 120mm spindle, zero pitting and in very good
>> condition, prettiest BB ever, IMO, NJS stamped, etc. $195 for everything
>> -Brooks B17 Select, honey w/ hammered rivets & black rails, basically
>> brand new (<500 miles) $130
>> -3t stem, silver & very good condition,140mm quill, 110mm extension, 26.0
>> clamp $20
>> -Forte Campus pedal, double-sided SPD style, fair condition but function
>> perfectly $15
>>
>>
>> Trade interests:  aluminum heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages,
>> Schmidt Edulux II & SON hub, Sackville Backabike Bags in tan, Carradice
>> sadlebags and/orBagman Expedition,
>>
>>
>> Prices do not do not do not include shipping.  Paypal is preferred, but
>> I'm open to other methods of payment.  Paypal will be conducted through an
>> email address not my own (my girlfriend's) so I'll provide that when
>> necessary.  "Send money to Friend & Fam" or you pay the fee.  Happy to
>> strike ya a deal if ya want a buncha stuff!
>>
>> Pictures or more details available via email ( likewisewildf...@gmail.com)
>> or text ( 7too4-7five7-935ate) or PM (private message)
>> For those of you whose phones are "smart" and can receive image texts
>> from iPhones, I'mma say that'll be easiest.  Someone give me a friendly
>> holler if any o' this stuff is ignorantly priced.
>>
>> Apologies for the classic RBW/iBOB crosspost...
>>
>> I'm in Portland, Oregon (N/Eliot) if you'd like to come by and take a
>> look.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Brooks, Soma, Panaracer, Schwalbe, Tubus...the good stuff!

[ant ritchey]

Cane Creek levers SOLD
Deore DX front derailleur SOLD
Shimano SPD platforms SOLD

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 9:22:14 AM UTC-8, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> I'm a renter here in Portland, Oregon.  The place I've been in for 3 years 
> just sold for 500k over what the owner paid back in 1989.  We've received 
> our GTFO notice, so like it or not- spring cleaning comes early for me this 
> year.
>
>
> PARTS
> -Soma Sparrowbars, silver, 520mm width, 22.2mm clamp, lil scratched & tape 
> gunk.  $15
> -Shimano 600 crankset, Tri Color, double 172.5 w/ 53 & 42t rings, 
> self-extracting bolts & covers, very good condition.  $50
> -Cane Creek SCR-5, brand new gum hoods, levers a lil scratched.  $20
> -Shimano Deore front derailer FD-M590, black clamp w/ silver cage, brand 
> new.  $25
> -Shimano Deore rear derailleur set, RD-m591 black, brand new.  $35
> -Shimano front derailer FD-2203, black clamp w/ silver cage, for a triple 
> 31.8, good condition.  $15
> -Shimano Deore front derailer FD-M591, black clamp w/ silver cage, for a 
> triple, 31.8 clamp.  $15
> -Shimano Deore rear derailer RD-M591, black, some scratches but works 
> perfectly, 9 spd.  $20
> -Deore DX front derailer, 31.8 clamp w/ shim for 1 1/8", for a triple, 
> good condition.  $15
> -Nitto Dirt Drop stem, MT-5, came stock on '86 MB-2, 125mm quill, 110mm 
> extension, 25.4 clamp, good condition.  $20
> -Nitto stem, vintage...70's era?, 150mm quill, 70mm reach, 26.0 clamp, 
> good condition.  $20
> (hex bolt quill tightening style; having trouble finding images of this 
> particluar onevia google search...)
> -Nitto mountain riser bars, B801-FAA, came stock on '86 MB-2, good 
> condition.  $10
> -Sugino chainring, silver 44t, good condition, 8/9/10 spd.  $8
> -Panaracer Pasela 700x32, gumwall, a little dirty but basically brand new. 
>  $30/pair
> -Schwalbe Marathon 700x32, <1k miles, black.  $25/pair
> -Dia Compe Guidonnet brake levers DC-139, 23.8 clamp, silver & very good 
> condition.  $20
> -Tubus Tara front lowrider rack, silver, good condition.  $65
> -Tubus Logo Evo rear rack, silver, shows signs of wear but functions 
> perfectly.  $80
> -Shimano Dual Platform pedals w/ one sided SPD, silver, good condition. 
>  $20
> -Paul thumbies, black, 25.4 clamp, very good condition.  $40
> -IRD Defiant track cranks, beautiful cranks in very good condition, 170 mm 
> w/ a 46t ring, 144bcd.  $85
> -Sugino SG75 track cranks w/ SG75 bottom bracket, 165mm w/ 49t ring, 
> 144bcd, arms show some signs of wear but otherwise in very good 
> condition; BB: square taper, 120mm spindle, zero pitting and in very good 
> condition, prettiest BB ever, IMO, NJS stamped, etc. $195 for everything
> -Brooks B17 Select, honey w/ hammered rivets & black rails, basically 
> brand new (<500 miles) $130
> -3t stem, silver & very good condition,140mm quill, 110mm extension, 26.0 
> clamp $20
> -Forte Campus pedal, double-sided SPD style, fair condition but function 
> perfectly $15
>
>
> Trade interests:  aluminum heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages, 
> Schmidt Edulux II & SON hub, Sackville Backabike Bags in tan, Carradice 
> sadlebags and/orBagman Expedition,
>
>
> Prices do not do not do not include shipping.  Paypal is preferred, but 
> I'm open to other methods of payment.  Paypal will be conducted through an 
> email address not my own (my girlfriend's) so I'll provide that when 
> necessary.  "Send money to Friend & Fam" or you pay the fee.  Happy to 
> strike ya a deal if ya want a buncha stuff!
>
> Pictures or more details available via email ( likewisewildf...@gmail.com) 
> or text ( 7too4-7five7-935ate) or PM (private message)
> For those of you whose phones are "smart" and can receive image texts from 
> iPhones, I'mma say that'll be easiest.  Someone give me a friendly holler 
> if any o' this stuff is ignorantly priced.
>  
> Apologies for the classic RBW/iBOB crosspost...
>
> I'm in Portland, Oregon (N/Eliot) if you'd like to come by and take a look.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Enlightenments and ascensions notwithstanding, I believe the OP referred to 
"selfish" drivers. There was no mention of whether they were anatomically 
correct. In any case, simply the act of driving several thousand pounds of 
metal via fossil fuels is, by definition, supremely selfish. The behavior 
once behind the wheel may add to that selfishness, or make one resemble a 
bodily orifice, or what have you. But driving a car is a hugely selfish act 
right from the get go, regardless of reason.

As to how to smooth out Close Encounters of the Unwanted Kind, generally 
not going to happen; it's a dilemma, not a problem. George Carlin's line 
could be adopted for the issue of Cars Behaving Badly Toward Bikes: *"Have 
you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and 
anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"*

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:42:50 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Ahahahahahah !The myth of the fallen(the supposed asshole) is the only 
> "asshole".  Since the myth belongs to no one  it doesn't even exist. 
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:30:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Aum!!!
>>
>> Patrick Moore, calling out assholes as he sees them, in ABQ, NM (where 
>> asshole drivers are, thank The Deity -- who ain't I, thank the Deity -- 
>> relatively rare).
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

Bars are sold. 

Bags still available. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stealing bikes

[Ron Mc]

I hope your wife didn't call the police

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stealing bikes

[Patrick Kelly]

Both my sons have basically reached my height. One has moved away, but
the other has recently taken over one of my bikes that I re-built in
order to sell. I'm much happier with him riding it than needing to
sell it. :)

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Ryan Fleming
 wrote:
> double the reason to justify a large stable of bikes :)
>
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:37:35 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> My son is approaching my height (he'll turn 15 in May).  This is a
>> pleasant surprise because his mom is not-tall.  If he gets close enough to
>> my height, all of a sudden my stable can do double-duty.  It might be a
>> while before he buys a bike that I can borrow, but for the short term, when
>> my wife complains that I have 10 bikes, I can handwave and say that only 7
>> are mine and 3 are my son's.  :-)
>>
>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 10:15:09 AM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
>>>
>>> ...from your own family!
>>>
>>> Last night I decided that I was going to abscond with my wife's Betty for
>>> commuting duties. I strapped my Carradice to it, swapped the bars from
>>> generic MAP clones to MAP/Ahearnes, Dia Compe levers to Pauls and the seat
>>> to a Brooks.
>>>
>>> This morning I rode in on plush Hetres leaving my Saluki with Fairweather
>>> X Nitto drops and Cazaderos at home. I got to school and bolted up my Bagman
>>> and it looks even better!
>>>
>>> We're the same height so we can share easily and she was excited to see
>>> all these changes.
>>>
>>> I think I'm going to have to find my own...
>>>
>>> -Justin
>
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[RBW] NAHBS Rivendell Owner's Bunch/iBOB Social Ride--Sat 2/27 5:30pm

[Joe Bernard]

Can someone explain the tickets for me? I'd like to see the Tom Ritchey seminar 
on Sunday..I can't tell if I need a separate ticket for it. 

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[RBW] Re: Stealing bikes

[Ryan Fleming]

double the reason to justify a large stable of bikes :)

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:37:35 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My son is approaching my height (he'll turn 15 in May).  This is a 
> pleasant surprise because his mom is not-tall.  If he gets close enough to 
> my height, all of a sudden my stable can do double-duty.  It might be a 
> while before he buys a bike that I can borrow, but for the short term, when 
> my wife complains that I have 10 bikes, I can handwave and say that only 7 
> are mine and 3 are my son's.  :-)
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 10:15:09 AM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
>>
>> ...from your own family!
>>
>> Last night I decided that I was going to abscond with my wife's Betty for 
>> commuting duties. I strapped my Carradice to it, swapped the bars from 
>> generic MAP clones to MAP/Ahearnes, Dia Compe levers to Pauls and the seat 
>> to a Brooks.
>>
>> This morning I rode in on plush Hetres leaving my Saluki with Fairweather 
>> X Nitto drops and Cazaderos at home. I got to school and bolted up my 
>> Bagman and it looks even better!
>>
>> We're the same height so we can share easily and she was excited to see 
>> all these changes. 
>>
>> I think I'm going to have to find my own...
>>
>> -Justin
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Stealing bikes

[Bill Lindsay]

My son is approaching my height (he'll turn 15 in May).  This is a pleasant 
surprise because his mom is not-tall.  If he gets close enough to my 
height, all of a sudden my stable can do double-duty.  It might be a while 
before he buys a bike that I can borrow, but for the short term, when my 
wife complains that I have 10 bikes, I can handwave and say that only 7 are 
mine and 3 are my son's.  :-)

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 10:15:09 AM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
>
> ...from your own family!
>
> Last night I decided that I was going to abscond with my wife's Betty for 
> commuting duties. I strapped my Carradice to it, swapped the bars from 
> generic MAP clones to MAP/Ahearnes, Dia Compe levers to Pauls and the seat 
> to a Brooks.
>
> This morning I rode in on plush Hetres leaving my Saluki with Fairweather 
> X Nitto drops and Cazaderos at home. I got to school and bolted up my 
> Bagman and it looks even better!
>
> We're the same height so we can share easily and she was excited to see 
> all these changes. 
>
> I think I'm going to have to find my own...
>
> -Justin
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Joe Bernard]

There's nice people and dickheads everywhere, regardless of vehicle of choice. 

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[RBW] Stealing bikes

[Justin August]

...from your own family!

Last night I decided that I was going to abscond with my wife's Betty for 
commuting duties. I strapped my Carradice to it, swapped the bars from generic 
MAP clones to MAP/Ahearnes, Dia Compe levers to Pauls and the seat to a Brooks.

This morning I rode in on plush Hetres leaving my Saluki with Fairweather X 
Nitto drops and Cazaderos at home. I got to school and bolted up my Bagman and 
it looks even better!

We're the same height so we can share easily and she was excited to see all 
these changes. 

I think I'm going to have to find my own...

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[Mark Reimer]

Yup, totally agree. Even in summer I had occasional sticking using
tenacious oil. Since running into this issue, I've learned of two others
with the identical problem. One locally, one from Colarado. I'm just glad
it's working well now :)

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:25 AM, dougP  wrote:

> "For reference, the factory supplied Phil Wood pawl lube is a mix of
> something around 9 parts tenacious oil to 1 part phil grease."'
>
> Phil's Tenacious is quite thick even in moderate temps.  No wonder it's
> problematic under your temp conditions.  Throw in some grease for
> stickiness & voila, sticking pawls.  I've used Phil's Tenacious in freehubs
> & have one with over 50,000 miles on it that still works fine.  I never
> guessed one could last so long & just wondering how long it will go.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:16:54 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Agreed re: TriFlow as a winter-only oil. It's been in there a couple
>> weeks now and the hub has never ran so nicely. I'll open it up later this
>> week and see how things are looking inside.
>>
>> The 10w-40 oil was something I started using in the fall, so it was too
>> heavy even in near-freezing temperatures. Pretty surprising how sensitive
>> this freehub is to viscosity. A lower synthetic oil is a good idea though.
>>
>> For reference, the factory supplied Phil Wood pawl lube is a mix of
>> something around 9 parts tenacious oil to 1 part phil grease.
>>
>> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 8:40:54 AM UTC-6, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>> I was wondering if a 50/50 split of 5w30 motor oil and Automatic
>>> Transmission fluid would do it?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:54:17 PM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:

 At temperatures that low, the pour point of the lubricant would start
 to matter.  Phil Tenacious Oil is probably molasses at -40.  I can't find
 detailed specs for Tri Flow, but the MSDS says its flash point is pretty
 low (170 degrees), indicating a fair portion of it is pretty light oil so
 it probably does flow at a low temperature.  Sewing machine oils or
 3-in-One would perform similarly.

 I'm not a huge fan of using motor oil outside of engines, but you could
 go to a 0W-20 synthetic motor oil to get a very low pour point.  Synthetic
 oils have an inherently high viscosity index, which means they don't change
 viscosity with temperature as much as mineral oils.  That same property
 would help maintain lubrication film strength when the weather warms up.

 If you stick with Tri Flow, consider using it as a winter-only oil, and
 relubricating with something a bit heavier for the warm months.  No sense
 wearing out an expensive hub prematurely.

 Bill
 Stockton, CA

 On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Good question! I did a quick Google and it seems they have their own
> brand of 'all season' oil, but I didn't find anything else.
>
> I've tried Phil pawl lube, tenacious oil, 10w40 motor oil, various
> chain lubes, etc. Triflow is the only thing I've found to work 
> consistently
> below -10C. Even -5C was getting my 10w40 lube sticking a bit, which I
> found surprising.
>
> Strangely enough, my older 3-pawl phil wood road hub has never skipped
> in any temperatures, ever. But this new and 'improved' 4-pawl design Phil
> came out with a year or two ago has been brutal. This is my third freehub
> and my first time since getting the Atlantis that I've been able to ride 
> in
> the cold without it skipping.
>
> I got the minimal and ultra light lube idea from some riders up in
> Alaska who used a few drops of Singer sewing machine oil. It's pretty
> similar to TriFlow. TriFlow is supposed to be good to -60C. I've had the
> 'pleasure' of trying it down to -40C and it's been working well.
>
> A friend of mine just bought a Rohloff, I'll ask him about its low
> temp performance.
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:50:47 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>>
>> What lube is used in Rohloff hubs?  That would seem to be a tricky
>> problem, given all the whirling bits.  And the Germans deal with real
>> winter.  Maybe ATF?
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:18:04 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Amazing how our mitochondria adapt to the seasons so swiftly,
>>> helping us generate heat more than go in the winter and go more than 
>>> heat
>>> in the winter. perhaps poor Phil's pawls need a mitochondria lube? Grin.
>>>
>>> Love your pictures as always!
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer
>>> wrote:

 After sitting in the deep freeze so long, my body is all out of
 wack and was 

Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Garth]

Ahahahahahah !The myth of the fallen(the supposed asshole) is the only 
"asshole".  Since the myth belongs to no one  it doesn't even exist. 

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:30:13 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Aum!!!
>
> Patrick Moore, calling out assholes as he sees them, in ABQ, NM (where 
> asshole drivers are, thank The Deity -- who ain't I, thank the Deity -- 
> relatively rare).
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

Hey Tom. Someone replied before you, if for some reason the deal falls through 
I'll contact you first. 

Thanks,

Tim

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> On Feb 22, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Palmer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> I would like the Bosco Bullmoose bars, but cannot get the reply to author to 
> work for me.
> My email is volvotom1964 at gmail.com if available.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Ryan Fleming]

Well, a little common sense and courtesy from drivers and cyclists 
(assholery is not just exclusive to car owners) would go a long way to 
making things better. One thing I've sure noticed in the last dozen or so 
years is that drivers  are more distracted with   their devices  to the 
extent that they're sort of oblivious  to anything elseand I've seen 
cyclists riding no hands and texting away, too. Don't want to get into a 
rant about this, but it is scary how people are so hooked in to their 
virtual worlds that they are totally unaware of what's going on around them 
in the real world...

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You know, it's not so much that car drivers are assholes, as that assholes 
> drive cars, and that cars encourage assholery.
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Brian Campbell  > wrote:
>
>> There is no solution. It is simply the counter balance to all of the joy 
>> a bicycle can bring into your life. FWIW, I have been hit by cars, trucks 
>> and other cyclists. Thankfully, never anything serious. I do my best to 
>> avoid accidents and have adopted a "do not poke the bear" philosophy when 
>> interacting with numbskulls.
>>
>> I recently had a woman driving a Range Rover, almost squish me at a 4-way 
>> stop. I was stopped as traffic proceeded through the stop in an orderly 
>> manner. She was approaching from my right ( I was heading South she was 
>> heading East). it was my turn and as I started to enter the intersection, 
>> she went right through her stop sign, (no braking). I yelled  out "Hey!" 
>> and braked hard. She looked up from her phone, startled by my yelling and 
>> then gave me the finger and shouted at me to go have relations with myself. 
>>
>> In another life, I would have chased her down to the next light and 
>> continued the discussion. Now, I just do my best to let it go and continue 
>> on my way. It does not feel fair to me but I have come to accept that there 
>> are many aspects of life that are indeed, unfair.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Patrick Moore]

Aum!!!

Patrick Moore, calling out assholes as he sees them, in ABQ, NM (where
asshole drivers are, thank The Deity -- who ain't I, thank the Deity --
relatively rare).

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
>FWIW, as this will be ignored .   A true Saint doesn't call out
> assholes for there are none such to the true Saint.  Only the
> self-professed (not) saints see them because they are just like them.
>
>   To serve God is slavery  to be God is Truth
>
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:05:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> You know, it's not so much that car drivers are assholes, as that
>> assholes drive cars, and that cars encourage assholery.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Garth]

   
   FWIW, as this will be ignored .   A true Saint doesn't call out 
assholes for there are none such to the true Saint.  Only the 
self-professed (not) saints see them because they are just like them. 

  To serve God is slavery  to be God is Truth 


On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 12:05:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You know, it's not so much that car drivers are assholes, as that assholes 
> drive cars, and that cars encourage assholery.
>
>
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[RBW] WTB- Nitto 80mm Dirt drop stem

[Bruce Smitham]

Looking for a used Nitto 80mm Dirt drop stem just like the one Riv sells if 
possible. I know their quill length is longer than others allowing a higher 
rise. If you have a used version I would like it so I can try another fit.

Thanks,

Bruce in San Diego

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[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[dougP]

"For reference, the factory supplied Phil Wood pawl lube is a mix of 
something around 9 parts tenacious oil to 1 part phil grease."'

Phil's Tenacious is quite thick even in moderate temps.  No wonder it's 
problematic under your temp conditions.  Throw in some grease for 
stickiness & voila, sticking pawls.  I've used Phil's Tenacious in freehubs 
& have one with over 50,000 miles on it that still works fine.  I never 
guessed one could last so long & just wondering how long it will go.  

dougP

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 7:16:54 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Agreed re: TriFlow as a winter-only oil. It's been in there a couple weeks 
> now and the hub has never ran so nicely. I'll open it up later this week 
> and see how things are looking inside. 
>
> The 10w-40 oil was something I started using in the fall, so it was too 
> heavy even in near-freezing temperatures. Pretty surprising how sensitive 
> this freehub is to viscosity. A lower synthetic oil is a good idea though. 
>
> For reference, the factory supplied Phil Wood pawl lube is a mix of 
> something around 9 parts tenacious oil to 1 part phil grease. 
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 8:40:54 AM UTC-6, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if a 50/50 split of 5w30 motor oil and Automatic 
>> Transmission fluid would do it?
>>
>> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:54:17 PM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:
>>>
>>> At temperatures that low, the pour point of the lubricant would start to 
>>> matter.  Phil Tenacious Oil is probably molasses at -40.  I can't find 
>>> detailed specs for Tri Flow, but the MSDS says its flash point is pretty 
>>> low (170 degrees), indicating a fair portion of it is pretty light oil so 
>>> it probably does flow at a low temperature.  Sewing machine oils or 
>>> 3-in-One would perform similarly.  
>>>
>>> I'm not a huge fan of using motor oil outside of engines, but you could 
>>> go to a 0W-20 synthetic motor oil to get a very low pour point.  Synthetic 
>>> oils have an inherently high viscosity index, which means they don't change 
>>> viscosity with temperature as much as mineral oils.  That same property 
>>> would help maintain lubrication film strength when the weather warms up.  
>>>
>>> If you stick with Tri Flow, consider using it as a winter-only oil, and 
>>> relubricating with something a bit heavier for the warm months.  No sense 
>>> wearing out an expensive hub prematurely. 
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> Stockton, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Good question! I did a quick Google and it seems they have their own 
 brand of 'all season' oil, but I didn't find anything else. 

 I've tried Phil pawl lube, tenacious oil, 10w40 motor oil, various 
 chain lubes, etc. Triflow is the only thing I've found to work 
 consistently 
 below -10C. Even -5C was getting my 10w40 lube sticking a bit, which I 
 found surprising. 

 Strangely enough, my older 3-pawl phil wood road hub has never skipped 
 in any temperatures, ever. But this new and 'improved' 4-pawl design Phil 
 came out with a year or two ago has been brutal. This is my third freehub 
 and my first time since getting the Atlantis that I've been able to ride 
 in 
 the cold without it skipping. 

 I got the minimal and ultra light lube idea from some riders up in 
 Alaska who used a few drops of Singer sewing machine oil. It's pretty 
 similar to TriFlow. TriFlow is supposed to be good to -60C. I've had the 
 'pleasure' of trying it down to -40C and it's been working well. 

 A friend of mine just bought a Rohloff, I'll ask him about its low temp 
 performance. 

 On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:50:47 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> What lube is used in Rohloff hubs?  That would seem to be a tricky 
> problem, given all the whirling bits.  And the Germans deal with real 
> winter.  Maybe ATF?
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:18:04 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
>>
>> Amazing how our mitochondria adapt to the seasons so swiftly, helping 
>> us generate heat more than go in the winter and go more than heat in the 
>> winter. perhaps poor Phil's pawls need a mitochondria lube? Grin.
>>
>> Love your pictures as always!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> After sitting in the deep freeze so long, my body is all out of wack 
>>> and was feeling quite happy to ride for a few hours in nothing but a 
>>> wool 
>>> jersey and jeans. It's funny, because come October I would be freezing 
>>> cold 
>>> in warmer temperatures with more clothes!
>>>
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Palmer]

Hi Tim,
I would like the Bosco Bullmoose bars, but cannot get the reply to author to 
work for me.
My email is volvotom1964 at gmail.com if available.
Thanks,
Tom Palmer 
Twin Lake, MI

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Patrick Moore]

You know, it's not so much that car drivers are assholes, as that assholes
drive cars, and that cars encourage assholery.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> There is no solution. It is simply the counter balance to all of the joy a
> bicycle can bring into your life. FWIW, I have been hit by cars, trucks and
> other cyclists. Thankfully, never anything serious. I do my best to avoid
> accidents and have adopted a "do not poke the bear" philosophy when
> interacting with numbskulls.
>
> I recently had a woman driving a Range Rover, almost squish me at a 4-way
> stop. I was stopped as traffic proceeded through the stop in an orderly
> manner. She was approaching from my right ( I was heading South she was
> heading East). it was my turn and as I started to enter the intersection,
> she went right through her stop sign, (no braking). I yelled  out "Hey!"
> and braked hard. She looked up from her phone, startled by my yelling and
> then gave me the finger and shouted at me to go have relations with myself.
>
> In another life, I would have chased her down to the next light and
> continued the discussion. Now, I just do my best to let it go and continue
> on my way. It does not feel fair to me but I have come to accept that there
> are many aspects of life that are indeed, unfair.
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose, Ortlieb Panniers and Handlebar Bag

[Tim Wood]

*price adjust*

I guess I over priced the boscos, they are the tig welded version and not the 
brazed. How does $75 shipped sound? They'll require a largish box so I'm sure 
it won't be cheap to ship. 

Thanks. 

Tim

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Threadless Stem, Thomson Setback Seatpost, Nitto RM-013, Gran Comp EVO, Nitto Technomic Stem

[Philip Kim]

all sold

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 3:14:20 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> All that's left:
>
>
> Nitto NTC-DX Techmonic Delux Quill Stem. 26.0 clamp, 70mm reach. 100mm 
> quill length from min. insertion line (reference 
> ).
>  
> *$35 shipped*.
>
> Gran Comp Evo brake levers (reference 
> ). Nice satin finish. *$37 
> shipped*. 
>
>  
>
>> Pictures here 
>>> 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Fwd: FS Madden Handlebar Bag PRICE DROP

[Eric Norris]

The bike room is getting cluttered … price drop on this very nice page to $30 
shipped.

--Eric Norris
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Eric Norris 
> Subject: FS Madden Handlebar Bag
> Date: February 19, 2016 at 2:13:25 PM PST
> To: RBW 
> 
> This came with a bike I purchased from a fellow list member. Nice bag, but it 
> doesn’t match my aesthetics. Quick-release bracket mounts to the bars to make 
> it easy to take the bag with you when you get to your destination. Map case 
> on the top flap, side and internal pockets, internal stiffener to keep it in 
> shape.
> 
> Photos here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsku1PMi1  
> (Rogue ale is for scale only.)
> 
> $40 shipped in the CONUS.
> 
> --Eric Norris
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Fwd: [RBW] Riv-ish Parts PRICE DROP

[Eric Norris]

Prices reduced to move ‘em out:

Bars: $35

Seatpost: $15

--Eric Norris
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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Eric Norris 
> Subject: [RBW] FS: Riv-ish Parts
> Date: February 3, 2016 at 10:11:59 PM PST
> To: RBW 
> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> Two items still left, now reduced in price (including shipping in the CONUS):
> 
> Nitto Noodle Bars, 26.0 clamp diameter, 46Cm width $45
> 
> Soma seatpost, 27.2 diameter, extra long, with insertion marks $20
> 
> --Eric Norris
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[RBW] Re: Tips for how to better handle Selfish Drivers?

[Brian Campbell]

There is no solution. It is simply the counter balance to all of the joy a 
bicycle can bring into your life. FWIW, I have been hit by cars, trucks and 
other cyclists. Thankfully, never anything serious. I do my best to avoid 
accidents and have adopted a "do not poke the bear" philosophy when 
interacting with numbskulls.

I recently had a woman driving a Range Rover, almost squish me at a 4-way 
stop. I was stopped as traffic proceeded through the stop in an orderly 
manner. She was approaching from my right ( I was heading South she was 
heading East). it was my turn and as I started to enter the intersection, 
she went right through her stop sign, (no braking). I yelled  out "Hey!" 
and braked hard. She looked up from her phone, startled by my yelling and 
then gave me the finger and shouted at me to go have relations with myself. 

In another life, I would have chased her down to the next light and 
continued the discussion. Now, I just do my best to let it go and continue 
on my way. It does not feel fair to me but I have come to accept that there 
are many aspects of life that are indeed, unfair.

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[RBW] FS: 2TT 64cm Atlantis

[Michael Williams]

hey group,   Just putting this out there to see if theres any interest.   Its a 
64cm Atlantis,  2 top tubes,   ~ 18months young!   The bike is just a bit too 
big.  Asking $1500 for frame/ fork/ headset.   If at all interested,  message 
me off list please!   Thanks!  -Mike

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[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[Mark Reimer]

Agreed re: TriFlow as a winter-only oil. It's been in there a couple weeks 
now and the hub has never ran so nicely. I'll open it up later this week 
and see how things are looking inside. 

The 10w-40 oil was something I started using in the fall, so it was too 
heavy even in near-freezing temperatures. Pretty surprising how sensitive 
this freehub is to viscosity. A lower synthetic oil is a good idea though. 

For reference, the factory supplied Phil Wood pawl lube is a mix of 
something around 9 parts tenacious oil to 1 part phil grease. 

On Monday, February 22, 2016 at 8:40:54 AM UTC-6, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I was wondering if a 50/50 split of 5w30 motor oil and Automatic 
> Transmission fluid would do it?
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:54:17 PM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:
>>
>> At temperatures that low, the pour point of the lubricant would start to 
>> matter.  Phil Tenacious Oil is probably molasses at -40.  I can't find 
>> detailed specs for Tri Flow, but the MSDS says its flash point is pretty 
>> low (170 degrees), indicating a fair portion of it is pretty light oil so 
>> it probably does flow at a low temperature.  Sewing machine oils or 
>> 3-in-One would perform similarly.  
>>
>> I'm not a huge fan of using motor oil outside of engines, but you could 
>> go to a 0W-20 synthetic motor oil to get a very low pour point.  Synthetic 
>> oils have an inherently high viscosity index, which means they don't change 
>> viscosity with temperature as much as mineral oils.  That same property 
>> would help maintain lubrication film strength when the weather warms up.  
>>
>> If you stick with Tri Flow, consider using it as a winter-only oil, and 
>> relubricating with something a bit heavier for the warm months.  No sense 
>> wearing out an expensive hub prematurely. 
>>
>> Bill
>> Stockton, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> Good question! I did a quick Google and it seems they have their own 
>>> brand of 'all season' oil, but I didn't find anything else. 
>>>
>>> I've tried Phil pawl lube, tenacious oil, 10w40 motor oil, various chain 
>>> lubes, etc. Triflow is the only thing I've found to work consistently below 
>>> -10C. Even -5C was getting my 10w40 lube sticking a bit, which I found 
>>> surprising. 
>>>
>>> Strangely enough, my older 3-pawl phil wood road hub has never skipped 
>>> in any temperatures, ever. But this new and 'improved' 4-pawl design Phil 
>>> came out with a year or two ago has been brutal. This is my third freehub 
>>> and my first time since getting the Atlantis that I've been able to ride in 
>>> the cold without it skipping. 
>>>
>>> I got the minimal and ultra light lube idea from some riders up in 
>>> Alaska who used a few drops of Singer sewing machine oil. It's pretty 
>>> similar to TriFlow. TriFlow is supposed to be good to -60C. I've had the 
>>> 'pleasure' of trying it down to -40C and it's been working well. 
>>>
>>> A friend of mine just bought a Rohloff, I'll ask him about its low temp 
>>> performance. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:50:47 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:

 What lube is used in Rohloff hubs?  That would seem to be a tricky 
 problem, given all the whirling bits.  And the Germans deal with real 
 winter.  Maybe ATF?

 dougP

 On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:18:04 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick 
 wrote:
>
> Amazing how our mitochondria adapt to the seasons so swiftly, helping 
> us generate heat more than go in the winter and go more than heat in the 
> winter. perhaps poor Phil's pawls need a mitochondria lube? Grin.
>
> Love your pictures as always!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer 
> wrote:
>>
>> After sitting in the deep freeze so long, my body is all out of wack 
>> and was feeling quite happy to ride for a few hours in nothing but a 
>> wool 
>> jersey and jeans. It's funny, because come October I would be freezing 
>> cold 
>> in warmer temperatures with more clothes!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Could the end be near? Spring and happy Phil pawls

[Brian Campbell]

I was wondering if a 50/50 split of 5w30 motor oil and Automatic 
Transmission fluid would do it?

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 8:54:17 PM UTC-5, Bill M. wrote:
>
> At temperatures that low, the pour point of the lubricant would start to 
> matter.  Phil Tenacious Oil is probably molasses at -40.  I can't find 
> detailed specs for Tri Flow, but the MSDS says its flash point is pretty 
> low (170 degrees), indicating a fair portion of it is pretty light oil so 
> it probably does flow at a low temperature.  Sewing machine oils or 
> 3-in-One would perform similarly.  
>
> I'm not a huge fan of using motor oil outside of engines, but you could go 
> to a 0W-20 synthetic motor oil to get a very low pour point.  Synthetic 
> oils have an inherently high viscosity index, which means they don't change 
> viscosity with temperature as much as mineral oils.  That same property 
> would help maintain lubrication film strength when the weather warms up.  
>
> If you stick with Tri Flow, consider using it as a winter-only oil, and 
> relubricating with something a bit heavier for the warm months.  No sense 
> wearing out an expensive hub prematurely. 
>
> Bill
> Stockton, CA
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Good question! I did a quick Google and it seems they have their own 
>> brand of 'all season' oil, but I didn't find anything else. 
>>
>> I've tried Phil pawl lube, tenacious oil, 10w40 motor oil, various chain 
>> lubes, etc. Triflow is the only thing I've found to work consistently below 
>> -10C. Even -5C was getting my 10w40 lube sticking a bit, which I found 
>> surprising. 
>>
>> Strangely enough, my older 3-pawl phil wood road hub has never skipped in 
>> any temperatures, ever. But this new and 'improved' 4-pawl design Phil came 
>> out with a year or two ago has been brutal. This is my third freehub and my 
>> first time since getting the Atlantis that I've been able to ride in the 
>> cold without it skipping. 
>>
>> I got the minimal and ultra light lube idea from some riders up in Alaska 
>> who used a few drops of Singer sewing machine oil. It's pretty similar to 
>> TriFlow. TriFlow is supposed to be good to -60C. I've had the 'pleasure' of 
>> trying it down to -40C and it's been working well. 
>>
>> A friend of mine just bought a Rohloff, I'll ask him about its low temp 
>> performance. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 2:50:47 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>>>
>>> What lube is used in Rohloff hubs?  That would seem to be a tricky 
>>> problem, given all the whirling bits.  And the Germans deal with real 
>>> winter.  Maybe ATF?
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:18:04 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick 
>>> wrote:

 Amazing how our mitochondria adapt to the seasons so swiftly, helping 
 us generate heat more than go in the winter and go more than heat in the 
 winter. perhaps poor Phil's pawls need a mitochondria lube? Grin.

 Love your pictures as always!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:37:51 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> After sitting in the deep freeze so long, my body is all out of wack 
> and was feeling quite happy to ride for a few hours in nothing but a wool 
> jersey and jeans. It's funny, because come October I would be freezing 
> cold 
> in warmer temperatures with more clothes!
>


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[RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

[René Sterental]

Indeed!

On Monday, February 22, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Awesome!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 10:35:52 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>>
>> He literally expressed that these local pavement rides relax him whereas
>> mountain biking stresses him out. He wouldn't mind doing more of these
>> rides with me and he likes the Homer very much and can see it being his
>> bike long term.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: New 650B Dyno Wheel (Shimano DH-3N72) and Clem Bars (maybe)

[RDS]

Price drop on the wheel to $235.

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:02:11 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> See pics at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6Wb8pkSIAX6SG1wbnJTdzhOYVE
>
> For sale is a brand new never used front wheel with a Shimano DH-3N72 dyno 
> hub.  Wheel size is 650B as I requested that this be made for my 52 Clem. 
>  I do not really have any details about the rim itself.  It is silver with 
> no writing other than the "Rich Lesnik" sticker on the rim.  I have no idea 
> how to measure a rim, but from outside-to-outside it looked like 25mm for a 
> width.  I installed a tube and tire, but never put it on the bike (tube and 
> tire not included).  Paid $280 and I will take $250 with me paying the 
> shipping cost.  Wheel located in Georgia.
>
> I am debating whether to sell my Clem 52.  If you are interested, contact 
> me via email for questions.  The frame was damaged during shipping and has 
> a dent on the top tube though no structural damage of any kind was done 
> (probably the handlebars made the dent).  After speaking with Riv, I 
> decided to keep the bike at the time and to their credit I received a Riv 
> gift certificate though the damage was done by one of the shipper's.  I 
> don't really find any fault with the Clem.  I have nothing negative to say 
> about the Clem.  Something just doesn't feel right to me (probably due to 
> my odd body proportions and stiff back).  I'm not sure what I am going to 
> do at this point.  I may keep it, may just sell the original bars, may sell 
> it as a frame, or might sell it complete at a good deal due to the frame 
> dent.  Bike located in Georgia.
>
> After all of that Clem rambling, if no one is interested in the bike, I 
> may just sell the original bars.  I have no idea of a price range for 
> these, so I'll listen to any reasonable offer.  Bars measure approx 56mm 
> from outside to outside at the bar ends.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike quiver update focusing on my A. Homer Hilsen

[Deacon Patrick]

Awesome!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 10:35:52 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> He literally expressed that these local pavement rides relax him whereas 
> mountain biking stresses him out. He wouldn't mind doing more of these 
> rides with me and he likes the Homer very much and can see it being his 
> bike long term.
>

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