[RBW] Re: Thread chaser recommendation

[Wayne Naha]

And what are you chasing the whiskey with?

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 1:45:52 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Whisky*. You chase the threads with whisky*, which you drink. Do NOT give 
> the whisky* to the threads. They don't know what to do with it*. They'll 
> end up reverse thread or reverse reverse thread when they aren't supposed 
> to be.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> * Ardbeg, or in a pinch, other Islay single malts. 
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 9:55:25 AM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a thread chaser for home shop use? Thanks!
>>
>> D. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: EDM / Tap Burner

[Wayne Naha]

I have to agree, that is a tough one.  Have you thought of trying a 
tungsten carbide burr, sometimes known as a rotary file?  Like this 
.
 
 Maybe in the jig you used to drill the center of the bolt.  It will cut 
the ez-out, though it will take a steady hand.  You jig would be a great 
help, though.

On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 4:12:57 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Well, balls, that is a tough one.  I can absolutely empathize with the 
> frustration.  I seriously can feel the pangs of regret in my stomach, 
> wishing for the Rewind button, for the myriad things I wish I could un-do. 
>  Especially since it's on a friend's bike.  I would probably curse a lot, 
> and maybe have a good cry, and almost certainly have an adult beverage. 
>  Best of luck with the next steps after that
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 1:00:04 PM UTC-7, Joe Szokoli wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> #1. Bolt was tight, but going in, not getting tougher as I went, as 
>> happens if you have the wrong pitch, and then when almost home broke just 
>> below the surface...
>>
>> It's strange I chased the other three posts and they seemed rather clean.
>>
>> I had made a little jig and got the hole drilled for the ez-out with a 
>> left-handed drill beautifully centered. The ez-out had a good bite and I'm 
>> turning little by little waiting for the screw to start turning and pop the 
>> ez-out breaks absolutely flush with the surface of the bolt. I had chosen 
>> the smaller of two ez-outs hoping that it would not cause the bolt to 
>> further bind up. In hindsight with the pilot hole centered in the bolt i 
>> should have keep using bigger drills till I was at the minor diameter of 
>> the thread, and picked out the pieces.
>>
>> There are just so many lessons here.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: 62cm Rivendell Yves Gomez

[Mattt]

Like the subject states, I am looking to buy a Rivendell Yves Gomez size 62cm.

Message me off list.

I don't post on here much because I am a wallflower, lurker.  I read the posts 
daily, so I am not a fly night buncher.


Thanks,
Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Kainalu]

I wish I could experience the Appaloosa, but I'm out of proportion for it. 
Excited for it's huge cousin Clem coming out this summer, looking forward 
to a ridiculously? long wheelbase.
Anyways, I wanted to back you on the loud freewheel thing being a plus. I 
had an Ultegra ultrastealth bird watching hub for awhile and found myself 
having to ding all the time, now with a cheaper/louder/stronger Deore I can 
lay off the bell.
-Kai
Brooklyn 

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:19:19 PM UTC-4, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> This may sound trite, but I'm gonna jump to amplify one word Bill 
> used: easy. Riding my Appaloosa also struck me also as being "easy". 
> It's a word that came to me when riding mine, but it sounds too 
> trivial, almost, to speak of. I suspect that riding in a more upright 
> position affects my riding attitude. I feel less aggressive, and more 
> relaxed. But, I did find it was easy to go quick, too. I expect to 
> find that my Joe will be at least as fast as my old bike (which is 
> fairly tank-like). 
>
> Relative to handling, I found that it was not a big deal. I'm not a 
> super-cyclist by any means, but when people see the super long 
> chainstay, they assume it's got to ride differently. My friend and I 
> compared wheelbases between his bombadil and my joe app. His wheelbase 
> is actually a fraction of an inch longer. This is because he's taller 
> and has a much bigger bike. The chainstay is shorter on his, but 
> overall, they are nearly the same length. Point being that even with a 
> "radical" long chainstay, the bike is not really radically long. Are 
> there a lot of 6'2" people complaining about how their bicycle is too 
> long to navigate? I don't think so. 
>
> A curious thing, to me, was that I found myself pulling up on the 
> handlebars on acceleration. I assume it's the difference in riding 
> position. I guess that since I'm not leaning so heavily forward, 
> there's not as much weight on my feet/legs. It's not anything 
> stressful, it was just something I discovered I was doing. 
>
> It's also been mentioned (in some thread about Joes) that the rear hub 
> is loud. It's not the loudest I've heard, but it is louder than 
> average. Personally I find this to be a feature, since you can stop 
> pedaling a bit when coming up behind people and they may hear you 
> coming. It's less alarming than a bell. 
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote: 
> > Meditate on Rule #10: 
> > 
> > Rule #10 
> > 
> > The harder I pedal the faster it goes. I have not done a Strava 
> comparison 
> > to quantify my speed output relative to my perceived level of exertion 
> > input.  I can ride it as hard as I like, and if I work harder it goes 
> > faster.  If I ease up it goes slower, just like my other Rivendells, and 
> > just like all my other bikes. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 5:38:07 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: 
> >> 
> >> How dors it feel going uphill, compared to your other rivs? 
> Easier/harder 
> >> to get up them hills? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Patrick Kelly]

This may sound trite, but I'm gonna jump to amplify one word Bill
used: easy. Riding my Appaloosa also struck me also as being "easy".
It's a word that came to me when riding mine, but it sounds too
trivial, almost, to speak of. I suspect that riding in a more upright
position affects my riding attitude. I feel less aggressive, and more
relaxed. But, I did find it was easy to go quick, too. I expect to
find that my Joe will be at least as fast as my old bike (which is
fairly tank-like).

Relative to handling, I found that it was not a big deal. I'm not a
super-cyclist by any means, but when people see the super long
chainstay, they assume it's got to ride differently. My friend and I
compared wheelbases between his bombadil and my joe app. His wheelbase
is actually a fraction of an inch longer. This is because he's taller
and has a much bigger bike. The chainstay is shorter on his, but
overall, they are nearly the same length. Point being that even with a
"radical" long chainstay, the bike is not really radically long. Are
there a lot of 6'2" people complaining about how their bicycle is too
long to navigate? I don't think so.

A curious thing, to me, was that I found myself pulling up on the
handlebars on acceleration. I assume it's the difference in riding
position. I guess that since I'm not leaning so heavily forward,
there's not as much weight on my feet/legs. It's not anything
stressful, it was just something I discovered I was doing.

It's also been mentioned (in some thread about Joes) that the rear hub
is loud. It's not the loudest I've heard, but it is louder than
average. Personally I find this to be a feature, since you can stop
pedaling a bit when coming up behind people and they may hear you
coming. It's less alarming than a bell.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> Meditate on Rule #10:
>
> Rule #10
>
> The harder I pedal the faster it goes. I have not done a Strava comparison
> to quantify my speed output relative to my perceived level of exertion
> input.  I can ride it as hard as I like, and if I work harder it goes
> faster.  If I ease up it goes slower, just like my other Rivendells, and
> just like all my other bikes.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 5:38:07 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> How dors it feel going uphill, compared to your other rivs? Easier/harder
>> to get up them hills?
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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Bill Lindsay]

Meditate on Rule #10:

Rule #10 

The harder I pedal the faster it goes. I have not done a Strava comparison 
to quantify my speed output relative to my perceived level of exertion 
input.  I can ride it as hard as I like, and if I work harder it goes 
faster.  If I ease up it goes slower, just like my other Rivendells, and 
just like all my other bikes.  

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 5:38:07 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> How dors it feel going uphill, compared to your other rivs? Easier/harder 
> to get up them hills?

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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Lungimsam]

How dors it feel going uphill, compared to your other rivs? Easier/harder to 
get up them hills?

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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[William R.]

Lol! You're a funny guy Bill! I got a 58 and I'm keeping everything! I love the 
173s and the tires, while not currently in use, will get used. One thing we 
share brother: love for the Joe Appaloosa! I'm too busy in my spare time riding 
it to write more at this time. I will do some kind of six-week review blog 
in... Five weeks!

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: On tire supple-itude

[Jeremy Till]

There are certainly many variations on supple out there.  TPI is not always 
a good guide for suppleness because there is variation in the number of 
plies (layers) in a tire and there is no standardization in whether or not 
TPI refers to the threads in an individual layer or the cumulative TPI of 
all of the layers (e.g. one 180 TPI layer vs. 3x60 TPI layers).  Jan has 
also said that there is variation in the thread material which affects 
suppleness, which I think is what distinguishes the "extralight" Compass/GB 
tires from the "standard" ones.  There's also the thickness of the rubber 
and any puncture resistant material, coated vs. non-coated sidewalls, etc.

I too would like to see more discussion of the vagaries of suppleness among 
the sub-compass tires, and how other factors might affect ride quality for 
those of us interested more in compromise (puncture resistance, long wear, 
price) rather than suppleness above all.  For instance, the sidewalls of my 
Schwalbe Kojaks feel very supple, on par with high-end road tires, but the 
tread area is very stiff (yet thin), probably due to whatever puncture 
resistant belt they put in there.  Do the supple sidewalls or stiff tread 
play more of a role in its bump absorption and/or rolling resistance? 

I applaud Jan et. al's efforts at testing and quantifying a lot of this 
stuff but the OP is right that it can be hard to figure out if you're 
considering something other than super-supple tires.  In my experience it 
often comes down to how a tire feels in hand; how easy it to flex the 
sidewalls and tread.  Floppier tires are more likely to roll better and be 
smoother, but you're probably giving something up in price and puncture 
resistance.  Until you've felt and tried a bunch of tires it can be hard to 
know where the balance lies for you, and even then it can be hard to know 
before purchasing a new tire, unless you have the chance to feel it. 

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 3:27:12 PM UTC-7, ian m wrote:
>
> Hopefully not beating a dying horse here, but I am confused by how this 
> topic is often discussed. With how BQ and Compass/Grand Bois talk about 
> their tires it seems as though it's a binary opposition, right? Supple 
> tires vs. non-supple tires, new tire technology vs. old tires, their tires 
> vs. the rest. But what is even being discussed when we talk about 
> suppleness? Am I confused in thinking that there has long been differing 
> levels of casing quality with TPI being a good indicator of suppleness (and 
> why doesn't Compass advertise the TPI on their tires)?
>
> It seems to me that it's more of a continuum of supple, from maybe the 
> steel belted kevlar enforced urban assault Schwalbe to the hand sewn from 
> the finest silk undies race only FMBs. In that continuum you have your 
> clincher and your tubular, your wire bead and folding bead, your 120TPI and 
> your puncture-proof belt. But where in the continuum are they?
>
> I'm not interested in performance and am a proud unracer. My only Riv bike 
> is a Clem and I love it. But I know and appreciate quality bicycle 
> components and, as they say, am too poor to buy cheap things. While the 
> rising interest in wide tires in the performance bicycling world will mean 
> more options for us balloon bikers, that also means more companies making 
> all sorts of unverifiable claims about their tires. I remember when I 
> switched from Schwalbe Delta Cruisers to Clement 120TPI USH tires on a 
> previous touring bike. I was not let down. But would I notice the same 
> change if I went from the light Jack Browns on my SS to Compass tires?  I 
> would like to upgrade from the bottom of the line wire bead Schwalbe's 
> currently on my Clem (mostly because they have a wobble in the bead) to a 
> lighter "all road" 650b. How does one compare the supple-itude?
>
> - Perpetually Confused by Marketing
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Joe Bernard]

I dig the whole "Soviet Rocket" thing going on here. I'm a space program nerd, 
especially Cold War Era stuff when we didn't know what the heck was going on 
with the Soyez program. 

I don't need another bike after recently purchasing my CLEM, but this ROSCO 
project is the coolest. Hey, it's only money, right?? ;)

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[RBW] Re: On tire supple-itude

[Deacon Patrick]

The supple, all road tire I ride and put on my daughter's 650b Clementines 
for all road/trail bikepacking is Schwalbe's Thunderburt (no snakebite or 
other protection). Rides like a dream. They very much noticed (and love) 
the difference from the stock tires. We ordered from Germany and that 
brought the price down to something reasonable per tire.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] On tire supple-itude

[Patrick Moore]

A recent BQ claimed to show that TPI doesn't necessarily correlate with
suppleness; apparently there are other factors that make Compass tires
supple with relatively low TPI counts.

In my experience, one element that correlates (I don't say "causes")
suppleness is light weight: when a tire casing is light and thin, the tires
seem to roll better.

On the other hand, tires with thick, heavy sidewalls in particular, and --
less so, but still so -- thick treads, as with puncture belts, have felt
relatively sluggish. I say "relatively" because some of Schwalbe's belted
tires -- the Big Apple and the Kojak -- in fact roll pretty well despite
their reinforced tread.

OTOH, I used to ride 559 X 32 Paselas, non-Tourguard, which weighed 240
grams consistently on a mail scale, and these rode pretty well, as well as,
say, the Kojaks. I remember once adding Mr Tuffy's to my Paselas, riding 30
miles rt to work and back, and immediately removing them -- so noticeable
did they add drag to the tire. (Note that these Paselas, no longer
available apparently, had suppleness and low price on their side; against
them was fragility and great sensitivity to pressure.

The best tires I've used to date, and my current defaults, are the Compass
559 X 32 (actual 28-29) Elk Pass -- 175 grams each! -- and the 622 X 50
Schwalbe Furious Fred -- 360 honest mail scale grams each! Both these
tires, the FFs run tubeless for added effect, are very noticeably easier to
pedal in a given gear in given conditions at given cadences; I find myself
riding, on pavement, in road gears on the FFs, instead of gearing down as
with the (again, relatively nice) Big Apples.

As for fragility: well, yes, every benefit comes with a defect; I'd not
ride either tire in sharp gravel. But for smooth or light gravel and firm
dirt, even the Elk Pass does fine; and with Orange Seal in the tubes (EPs)
or, sans tubes, in the tire carcase (FFs) I blithely ride amongst the
goatheads with near impunity.

Really, after the frame (fit, feel), the quality of the tire makes the
bike; and really, for me, the EP and the FF have literally transformed
respectively my paved road and dirt road riding (again, modern sealants let
me use them with impunity).

Lastly: It has been some years since I used Jack Brown Greens, which, IIRC,
were as far as ride quality goes, on the level of non-tourguard Paselas.
The EPs and the FFs are much better.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, ian m  wrote:

> Hopefully not beating a dying horse here, but I am confused by how this
> topic is often discussed. With how BQ and Compass/Grand Bois talk about
> their tires it seems as though it's a binary opposition, right? Supple
> tires vs. non-supple tires, new tire technology vs. old tires, their tires
> vs. the rest. But what is even being discussed when we talk about
> suppleness? Am I confused in thinking that there has long been differing
> levels of casing quality with TPI being a good indicator of suppleness (and
> why doesn't Compass advertise the TPI on their tires)?
>
> It seems to me that it's more of a continuum of supple, from maybe the
> steel belted kevlar enforced urban assault Schwalbe to the hand sewn from
> the finest silk undies race only FMBs. In that continuum you have your
> clincher and your tubular, your wire bead and folding bead, your 120TPI and
> your puncture-proof belt. But where in the continuum are they?
>
> I'm not interested in performance and am a proud unracer. My only Riv bike
> is a Clem and I love it. But I know and appreciate quality bicycle
> components and, as they say, am too poor to buy cheap things. While the
> rising interest in wide tires in the performance bicycling world will mean
> more options for us balloon bikers, that also means more companies making
> all sorts of unverifiable claims about their tires. I remember when I
> switched from Schwalbe Delta Cruisers to Clement 120TPI USH tires on a
> previous touring bike. I was not let down. But would I notice the same
> change if I went from the light Jack Browns on my SS to Compass tires?  I
> would like to upgrade from the bottom of the line wire bead Schwalbe's
> currently on my Clem (mostly because they have a wobble in the bead) to a
> lighter "all road" 650b. How does one compare the supple-itude?
>
> - Perpetually Confused by Marketing
>
>
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[RBW] Re: On tire supple-itude

[Deacon Patrick]

Easy. Ride washboard. The lower the dental bill the more supple the tire. 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 4:27:12 PM UTC-6, ian m wrote:
>
>  How does one compare the supple-itude?
>

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[RBW] On tire supple-itude

[ian m]

Hopefully not beating a dying horse here, but I am confused by how this 
topic is often discussed. With how BQ and Compass/Grand Bois talk about 
their tires it seems as though it's a binary opposition, right? Supple 
tires vs. non-supple tires, new tire technology vs. old tires, their tires 
vs. the rest. But what is even being discussed when we talk about 
suppleness? Am I confused in thinking that there has long been differing 
levels of casing quality with TPI being a good indicator of suppleness (and 
why doesn't Compass advertise the TPI on their tires)?

It seems to me that it's more of a continuum of supple, from maybe the 
steel belted kevlar enforced urban assault Schwalbe to the hand sewn from 
the finest silk undies race only FMBs. In that continuum you have your 
clincher and your tubular, your wire bead and folding bead, your 120TPI and 
your puncture-proof belt. But where in the continuum are they?

I'm not interested in performance and am a proud unracer. My only Riv bike 
is a Clem and I love it. But I know and appreciate quality bicycle 
components and, as they say, am too poor to buy cheap things. While the 
rising interest in wide tires in the performance bicycling world will mean 
more options for us balloon bikers, that also means more companies making 
all sorts of unverifiable claims about their tires. I remember when I 
switched from Schwalbe Delta Cruisers to Clement 120TPI USH tires on a 
previous touring bike. I was not let down. But would I notice the same 
change if I went from the light Jack Browns on my SS to Compass tires?  I 
would like to upgrade from the bottom of the line wire bead Schwalbe's 
currently on my Clem (mostly because they have a wobble in the bead) to a 
lighter "all road" 650b. How does one compare the supple-itude?

- Perpetually Confused by Marketing



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[RBW] Re: Classy s240 and tandem tragedy averted.

[Michael Hechmer]

Manny, these are the first two rules of tandeming:

1.  The stoker is always right
2.  When the stoker is wrong, see Rule One.

And this is the Great Truth of Tandeming:

Whatever direction your relationship is headed in, it will get there faster 
on a tandem.

blessings,
Michael

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 11:59:45 AM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> House buying stuff is winding down.  And losing sleep due to all the 
> stress.
> Felt that it was good time to spent my last weekend sleeping outside.
>
> Typical after rain muddiness and cow ruttyiness was the price we paid for 
> amazing morning of no fog and beautiful sunrise.
>
> Stopped by RivHQ and BBH because one of my buddies Chris wanted to check 
> out the new Appaloosas.
> We tested rode around the local hills and it was hard getting Chris off of 
> his. 
> He says it rides down hills well and new bar was comfortable.
>
> The next day out a tandem trip and "tricked" the wife the bike the tandem 
> down to see friends and have a picnic.
> Her first time on muddy dirt fire-roads. She did not appreciate the mud 
> but ice cream is always a good apology.
> Our ride back felt bumpy and I thought we blew out a spoke but sure enough 
> the side wall in the rear was dangerously ripped up. 
> Had the wife get picked up and went to a local bike shop to replace the 
> tire.
>
> Good to be back in the saddle. 
>
> Pictures proved that blown sidewalls are bad things 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskthRod5
>
> Manny "Soon to be homeowner" Acosta
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Bill Lindsay]

I saw Grant post something a while back, referring to "the rosco BLUG", but 
that's my first time to see that there's a tumblr page for the R05C0 8U883. 
 Thanks!  I do like the headbadge, and I like the explicit link to Russian. 
 There is a Russian idiom that has four words in it.  Those four words 
sound to my ears like:

Taish
Yeddish
Diesh
Buddish

and it translates to something like: slow down and you'll get there sooner. 
 I always thought that was a pretty Rivvish slogan.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 3:42:08 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> It's up on a tumblr blog. How is that low profile?
>
> http://roscobubbe.tumblr.com/
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:36 PM, dougP  
> wrote:
>
>> Didn't Grant request that this be kept low profile until it got a bit 
>> further along?  Too many unknowns at this point?  Something like that.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:31:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Phallic! Theme song:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11KgTi_Huts
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
>>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>>> Other professional writing services.
>>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
>>> *
>>> ***
>>> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>>> circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>>> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>>>
>>> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the 
>>> world revolves.) *Carthusian motto
>>>
>>> *It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart
>>>
>>> *Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *
>>> Aristotle
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Powdercoating recommendations

[Belopsky]

Michael - I am not sure who you saw in Michigan, but in addition to what 
Howard suggested, there is http://www.beansbestllc.com/capabilities/

I've had a few items done here, great work and very well priced.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange 58cm Rambouillets Is this a Mythical Beast?

[Leslie]

I don't think I could've handled that shade of green against the 
orange   

I had Bilenky replace the broken dropout on frame I got for my son, then I 
painted it to match the headtube;  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/23946265090/in/album-72157623199721925/
 




On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 2:49:43 PM UTC-4, NickBull wrote:
>
> If you are replying to my post of the orange ram with blue-green stays ...
>
> We discussed matching the headtube cream color, but Bilenky recommended 
> against it, I think because they said that it would tend to look dirty all 
> the time and also cream is so muted a color it would kind of wash out 
> visually.
>
> So what they were matching was the green in the Rambouillet headtube badge.
>
> FWIW, center of BB to top of top tube is a hair under 22.5" which is 57.2 
> cm.  So I don't know what that means--the Rambouillet geometry table has 56 
> and 58.  Maybe I'm not measuring quite right.  Or maybe the 58 is to the 
> top of a virtual horizontal top tube, I think the Ram has a little bit of 
> upslope.
>
> Nick
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 5:40:20 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Headtube matching cream.
>
>

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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa -- 100 mile report, whimsical photo and Want To Scavenge post

[Bill Lindsay]

I love my Joe Appaloosa.  It is a freaking great bike.  I did my 35 mile 
hilly commute to work again today and I just love how I can ride as hard as 
I like and still arrive at work fresh.  I'm not saying the Joe Appaloosa is 
a club race bike, and I'm not saying you will be able to keep up with your 
road-bike friends on group rides.  I'm not even suggesting that you will 
match your personal bests on Strava.  What I am saying is that the Joe 
Appaloosa is remarkably easy to ride.  It is stable and predictable, yet 
plenty maneuverable and agile.  When it's loaded, it takes some effort to 
get it moving, but once it gets moving it keeps moving.  It poured 
yesterday, and I bombed the wet roads with my fat tires with no concerns. 
 My front-load setup continues to work great.  I confess I did change out 
the Sun Race shifters (which I like) with the short and stubby Silvers that 
come as part of the IRD Silver SOS Shifters 
 (which I love).  On my ride 
through Hayward, I pass Tennyson Park, which has a small skate park.   I've 
often thought of riding my Rivendell timidly on the ramps and such, and 
did, very timidly.  



Joe shreds?


Now my Want to Scavenge part of my post:


You bought a 58cm Joe Appaloosa.  You are a crank arm length zealot and you 
only ride 175s.  You can't stand that your 58cm Joe Appaloosa came with 
weird 173mm crankarms, and want to change them out, and are grumpy that 
your complete bike is now going to cost you more to make perfect.  Sell 
your 173mm Silver crankset AND bottom bracket.  I offer to pay $140 shipped 
(to El Cerrito CA) for a set of 173s.  
 
You bought a 700c wheeled Joe Appaloosa.  You are a "supple tire" zealot 
and only ride tires that are Jan-approved.  You can't stand that your Joe 
Appaloosa came with "stout" tires, and are grumpy that your complete bike 
is now going to cost you more to make perfect.  Sell your Kenda Kwick 
Bitumin tires to me.  I offer to pay $60 shipped for a pair.  

Bill call-me-Joe Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Thread chaser recommendation

[Deacon Patrick]

Whisky*. You chase the threads with whisky*, which you drink. Do NOT give 
the whisky* to the threads. They don't know what to do with it*. They'll 
end up reverse thread or reverse reverse thread when they aren't supposed 
to be.

With abandon,
Patrick

* Ardbeg, or in a pinch, other Islay single malts. 

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>
> Can anyone recommend a thread chaser for home shop use? Thanks!
>
> D. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Thread chaser recommendation

[Bill Lindsay]

What threads are you chasing?  Everybody (yes everybody) should have a tap 
handle and an M5x0.8 tap and a M6x1.0 tap in their shop tools.  Expecially 
the M5x0.8.  The handle will cost you about $6, and each of those two taps 
will cost $4-$5.  Clean the paint out of EVERY water bottle bolt and every 
braze on before installing anything.  

If you want to chase the threads of your bottom bracket or your steertube, 
those are bike specific and expensive.  No way around it, pay the shop to 
do it, unless you really have money to burn.  A Park BTS-1, for example, is 
great to chase and face a bottom bracket but it's $600.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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>
> Can anyone recommend a thread chaser for home shop use? Thanks!
>
> D. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Classy s240 and tandem tragedy averted.

[Bill Lindsay]

Manny

At the High School Mountain Bike races, we see the Albany kids shredding 
hard.  I drop the name "Mr Acosta" and they all treat me like I'm cool from 
that point forward.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Gauchos 

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 8:59:45 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> House buying stuff is winding down.  And losing sleep due to all the 
> stress.
> Felt that it was good time to spent my last weekend sleeping outside.
>
> Typical after rain muddiness and cow ruttyiness was the price we paid for 
> amazing morning of no fog and beautiful sunrise.
>
> Stopped by RivHQ and BBH because one of my buddies Chris wanted to check 
> out the new Appaloosas.
> We tested rode around the local hills and it was hard getting Chris off of 
> his. 
> He says it rides down hills well and new bar was comfortable.
>
> The next day out a tandem trip and "tricked" the wife the bike the tandem 
> down to see friends and have a picnic.
> Her first time on muddy dirt fire-roads. She did not appreciate the mud 
> but ice cream is always a good apology.
> Our ride back felt bumpy and I thought we blew out a spoke but sure enough 
> the side wall in the rear was dangerously ripped up. 
> Had the wife get picked up and went to a local bike shop to replace the 
> tire.
>
> Good to be back in the saddle. 
>
> Pictures proved that blown sidewalls are bad things 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskthRod5
>
> Manny "Soon to be homeowner" Acosta
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: SKF Bottom Bracket, Square Taper - totally NEW

[David Hallerman]

*SOLD, and thanks!*

On 3/22/16 11:06 AM, David Hallerman wrote:

Hi,

I'm selling this totally new SKF bottom bracket, in its original 
packaging, at approximately 25% off its normal selling price.


_/Specs:/_
Length = 110mm
Type = cartridge
Taper = square JIS
Spindle = symmetric
Bearings = roller bearings on drive side; extra-large ball bearings on 
non-drive side

Threading = British (BSC)
Materials = entirely made from stainless steel and aluminum
Made in = Germany

Original price = $149
*My price = $116*
And that price includes shipping (CONUS) and covers the PayPal fee.

As Compass Bicycles (Jan Heine), the main US purveyor of the SKF 
bottom bracket, notes:
* the JIS taper is used on most Japanese and French cranks, including 
Stronglight and TA

* designed...from the ground up to optimize strength and durability
* installation is simple, and requires only an ISIS-type bottom 
bracket tool (such as Park BBT-18)


Two photos linked below, and questions quickly answered.

Dave, who says his buying too much can become your bargain

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/skf_bottom_bracket_00.jpg

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[iamkeith]

No.  That Retrotech is more like the classic Excelsior look that is still 
used quite often, with the extra tube being level or sloping slightly down 
toward the back.   The Bubba will likely be the opposite and unique - 
sloping down toward the *front*.

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:33:35 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Sorta like this Retrotec (no room on the headtube, it attaches to the 
> downtube)? Must be a tall headtube for that Roscoe Bubbe!
>
> [image: Image result for retrotec]
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:02:39 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Double-toptube, but it angles down from the top of the seattube to the 
>> bottom of the headtube. For no discernible reason, which is why it's funky 
>> ;) 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: SKF Bottom Bracket, Square Taper - totally NEW

[ian m]

Dave, I can PayPal you after work in approx 5 hours! I would like this BB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Belopsky]

Yep thats exactly what I was thinking. 

On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:33:35 PM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Sorta like this Retrotec (no room on the headtube, it attaches to the 
> downtube)? Must be a tall headtube for that Roscoe Bubbe!
>
> [image: Image result for retrotec]
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:02:39 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Double-toptube, but it angles down from the top of the seattube to the 
>> bottom of the headtube. For no discernible reason, which is why it's funky 
>> ;) 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Belopsky]

I dig it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Shoji Takahashi]

Sorta like this Retrotec (no room on the headtube, it attaches to the 
downtube)? Must be a tall headtube for that Roscoe Bubbe!

[image: Image result for retrotec]



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> Double-toptube, but it angles down from the top of the seattube to the 
> bottom of the headtube. For no discernible reason, which is why it's funky 
> ;) 

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Re: [RBW] Classy s240 and tandem tragedy averted.

[Joe Bunik]

episode 417 (in which Acosta learns preventative maintenance)

:-)
serious though, congrats Manny+Ashley
=- Joe


On 3/22/16, Manuel Acosta  wrote:
> House buying stuff is winding down.  And losing sleep due to all the
> stress.
> Felt that it was good time to spent my last weekend sleeping outside.
>
> Typical after rain muddiness and cow ruttyiness was the price we paid for
> amazing morning of no fog and beautiful sunrise.
>
> Stopped by RivHQ and BBH because one of my buddies Chris wanted to check
> out the new Appaloosas.
> We tested rode around the local hills and it was hard getting Chris off of
> his.
> He says it rides down hills well and new bar was comfortable.
>
> The next day out a tandem trip and "tricked" the wife the bike the tandem
> down to see friends and have a picnic.
> Her first time on muddy dirt fire-roads. She did not appreciate the mud but
>
> ice cream is always a good apology.
> Our ride back felt bumpy and I thought we blew out a spoke but sure enough
> the side wall in the rear was dangerously ripped up.
> Had the wife get picked up and went to a local bike shop to replace the
> tire.
>
> Good to be back in the saddle.
>
> Pictures proved that blown sidewalls are bad things
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskthRod5
>
> Manny "Soon to be homeowner" Acosta
>
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[RBW] Re: Thread chaser recommendation

[Shoji Takahashi]

I've got a few Irwin-Hanson (yellow and blue packaging) from the local 
hardware store. They've worked well for me in cleaning up paint and rust 
from holes. 

shoji



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> Can anyone recommend a thread chaser for home shop use? Thanks!
>
> D. 
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[RBW] Re: Thread chaser recommendation

[Garth]

  I have some Craftsman pieces .   I have 2 "steel tap wrench's" and the 
metric taps for dérailleur hanger and bottle bolts.  These are sold 
individually at a local Sears. 


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> Can anyone recommend a thread chaser for home shop use? Thanks!
>
> D. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Joe Bernard]

Double-toptube, but it angles down from the top of the seattube to the bottom 
of the headtube. For no discernible reason, which is why it's funky ;) 

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[RBW] Classy s240 and tandem tragedy averted.

[Manuel Acosta]

House buying stuff is winding down.  And losing sleep due to all the stress.
Felt that it was good time to spent my last weekend sleeping outside.

Typical after rain muddiness and cow ruttyiness was the price we paid for 
amazing morning of no fog and beautiful sunrise.

Stopped by RivHQ and BBH because one of my buddies Chris wanted to check 
out the new Appaloosas.
We tested rode around the local hills and it was hard getting Chris off of 
his. 
He says it rides down hills well and new bar was comfortable.

The next day out a tandem trip and "tricked" the wife the bike the tandem 
down to see friends and have a picnic.
Her first time on muddy dirt fire-roads. She did not appreciate the mud but 
ice cream is always a good apology.
Our ride back felt bumpy and I thought we blew out a spoke but sure enough 
the side wall in the rear was dangerously ripped up. 
Had the wife get picked up and went to a local bike shop to replace the 
tire.

Good to be back in the saddle. 

Pictures proved that blown sidewalls are bad things 
https://flic.kr/s/aHskthRod5

Manny "Soon to be homeowner" Acosta

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[RBW] Thread chaser recommendation

[Daniel Jackson]

 Can anyone recommend a thread chaser for home shop use? Thanks!

D. 

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[RBW] FS: SKF Bottom Bracket, Square Taper - totally NEW

[David Hallerman]

Hi,

I'm selling this totally new SKF bottom bracket, in its original 
packaging, at approximately 25% off its normal selling price.


_/Specs:/_
Length = 110mm
Type = cartridge
Taper = square JIS
Spindle = symmetric
Bearings = roller bearings on drive side; extra-large ball bearings on 
non-drive side

Threading = British (BSC)
Materials = entirely made from stainless steel and aluminum
Made in = Germany

Original price = $149
*My price = $116*
And that price includes shipping (CONUS) and covers the PayPal fee.

As Compass Bicycles (Jan Heine), the main US purveyor of the SKF bottom 
bracket, notes:
* the JIS taper is used on most Japanese and French cranks, including 
Stronglight and TA

* designed...from the ground up to optimize strength and durability
* installation is simple, and requires only an ISIS-type bottom bracket 
tool (such as Park BBT-18)


Two photos linked below, and questions quickly answered.

Dave, who says his buying too much can become your bargain

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/skf_bottom_bracket_00.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24440195/skf_bottom_bracket_01.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Belopsky]

yeah im really liking the badges. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Lungimsam]

So what is a funkatube?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[William R.]

Dang but that is a COOL looking head badge! I'm still ogling over my new 
Appaloosa's badge. That Roscoe is really coming along nicely though.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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Re: [RBW] Powdercoating recommendations

[Michael Hechmer]

Steven, thanks for this recommendation to Race Metalsmith.  Their web site 
showed some very hi end work and a chat with them yesterday morning 
 convinced me they are the way for me to go. And he sounds competent to 
convert the frame from CP to cantis.  It also looks like it will only be 
half the cost of shipping the bike back to Bilenky in Philadelphia.  I'm 
even considering splurging on a two tone job,  maybe doing the fenders & 
racks in British Racing Green and the frame in a popsicle orange.

Thanks too to Howard & Jason.  Both of your suggestions looked like good 
choices and I appreciate having good options.

Michael



On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 8:09:32 AM UTC-4, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> Michael, I have used Race Metalsmiths in White River Jct. Vt. and have 
> been very plesed with their work. He was the one who used the zinc primer 
> for a problem area. Also builds frames so is very familiar with bicycles.  
> Steve
>
> Plymouth, N. H. 
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Michael Hechmer  > wrote:
>
>> Somewhat off topic but I do need advice.
>>
>> In prepping our tandem for next weeks trip to the Outer Banks of NC I 
>> discovered significant paint damage & visible rust on the underside of the 
>> frame.  We have loved everything about this frame except the paint job.  
>> Last Fall I looked into returning it to Bilenky and having it 
>> powdercoated.  The frame has 3 pairs of S couplers which add to the 
>> cost.  If I remember correctly he quoted $525, plus tax and shipping.  I 
>> flinched and decided to deal with the visible scratches through some touch 
>> up paint, but somehow failed to turn the bike over, which is not so easy 
>> with a large, steel, touring bike  in any case.  Now I can see damage that 
>> is beyond me and a bottle of touch up paint.
>>  
>> So now I either need to find a reliable, alternative (and sacrifice the 
>> decals & head badge) or bit the bullet and return it to Bilenky.  And I'd 
>> like to act as soon as we return (4/3).  If others have had experience with 
>> this, especially in NE, or nearby.  I see one outfit in MI, which will do 
>> the job for $265.
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roscoe Bubba headbadge

[Eric Daume]

It's up on a tumblr blog. How is that low profile?

http://roscobubbe.tumblr.com/

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:36 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Didn't Grant request that this be kept low profile until it got a bit
> further along?  Too many unknowns at this point?  Something like that.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 11:31:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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>>
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>>
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