Re: [RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[drew]

The guy from pathlesspedaled posts a lot about bike fishing/gear/diy 
attachments and stuff. Their Instagram usually has some interesting stuff . 

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Ron Mc]

Another thought for a 2-pc spinning rod is a frame bag - might talk to a 
bag maker like Randi Jo or Ely at Ruthworks.  
What I was thinking was a bag attached to the top tube that zips open a 
flap - maybe straps inside to secure the rod with the reel wrapped, then it 
zips around the reel with the bulk of the rod cantilevered over the rear 
wheel.  
Maybe come up with a way to strap a scabbard case like this along the top 
tube with the narrow end cantilevered behind the seat:  
http://www.cabelas.com/product/boating/rod-holders-storage/fishing-rod-tubes-cases%7C/pc/104794380/c/104763780/sc/104541480/cabela-s-travel-rod-case/1618368.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FN%3D1100638
 


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[RBW] Re: lowering a handlebar bag

[Lungimsam]

Wow! Very creative, Dave!

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Ron Mc]

Joe, I agree, baskets are Perfect - I'm just working with what I have. 


  

 This had worked fine for me with up to a 35" rod tube.  

Most river-following roads are Fine bike rides - adding fishing is gravy.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Joe Broach]

Baskets are great for waders and boots, too. If it's not raining they dry
on the way home! I carried fishing pack in one basket and boots and waders
in the other. Ron's is classier, but hobo fishing works fine and doesn't
leave anything grab-able on the bike.

Best,
joe
pdx or

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> ps, with both panniers and rando bag, I can add waders and cleated boots,
> and wading staff, (and lunch) for fishing coldwater
> But yes, multipiece rods in tubes are a big advantage, 3-pc, 4-pc, 6-pc,
> etc.
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Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Ron Mc]

Rene, here, Jan has a really good table 
 http://www.compasscycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/skf_bb_chart.pdf

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 4:58:45 PM UTC-5, René wrote:
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> Slightly off topic... How do you determine the proper width of the bottom 
> bracket?
> - when getting a custom frame and a set of cranks you've never had before?
> - when switching to a new different crankset than what you had before?
>
> René 
>
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[RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Ron Mc]

ps, with both panniers and rando bag, I can add waders and cleated boots, 
and wading staff, (and lunch) for fishing coldwater
But yes, multipiece rods in tubes are a big advantage, 3-pc, 4-pc, 6-pc, 
etc.  

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[RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Ron Mc]

Hi Erl, 
I fish out of bags, Brady and Chapman.  You wear these like a musette, but 
especially loaded for fishing, it's a lot easier to stuff them and your 
wading shoes in a pannier.  This is a Carsick pannier, with water bottle 
sleeves on each end - they fit a fly rod tube perfectly.  
  
I also have a 6-pc Japanese rod that doesn't even need the toe strap 
support - the rod tube is 17"


Texas has a ruled about river bottoms - if it's classified "navigable" 
water you can get in at bridges and wade.  The best fishing is the 
headwaters, which aren't navigable, and the lanowners own the river bottom. 
 
They flip if you park a car at the crossing, but don't seem to mind bikes 
at all.  Even one county with no parking ordinance on river-following 
county roads, I was locking my bike to a tree when the sheriff drove by and 
waved at me.  


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Re: [RBW] OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Joe Broach]

I've carried fly rods in their (inner tube-wrapped) aluminum tube using a
PVC endcap at bottom and toe strap at the rear rack. This setup has worked
great even on singletrack (with a 4-piece rod). You can get the idea from
this photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclerslife/2696878540/in/album-72157606334274876/

It's super addictive to be able to put in anywhere. Let us know what you
come up with!

Best,
joe
pdx or

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 5:33 PM, WETH  wrote:

> As I recall, a few list members fish.  My question, does anyone have
> suggestions for carrying poles on their bike?
> The internet showed me some interesting homemade rack attachments using
> PVC pipe, other folk strap poles to the tI prune like a frame pump, others
> secure pole to waterbottle cage/ head tube, others take pole apart and put
> in a backpack.  And, I found this: http://www.bikefisherman.com.
> Am I missing any other options?
> I am building up a bike for the son of a dear family friend to take to
> college.  He loves to fish.  When the build is complete, I want to help him
> devise a way to carry his pole for fishing.  The bike will have a rear rack
> and front mini rack.
> Thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Erl
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[RBW] Re: OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[Deacon Patrick]

I dabbled in Tenkara fishing, which is extremely minimalist and the rods 
collapse to two feet or less. I stuck it in my small saddlebag, sticking 
out the sides but strapped in. Worked great! Also I'd just use an Irish 
strap and strap it to the frame.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 6:33:37 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>
> As I recall, a few list members fish.  My question, does anyone have 
> suggestions for carrying poles on their bike?
> The internet showed me some interesting homemade rack attachments using 
> PVC pipe, other folk strap poles to the tI prune like a frame pump, others 
> secure pole to waterbottle cage/ head tube, others take pole apart and put 
> in a backpack.  And, I found this: http://www.bikefisherman.com. 
> Am I missing any other options?
> I am building up a bike for the son of a dear family friend to take to 
> college.  He loves to fish.  When the build is complete, I want to help him 
> devise a way to carry his pole for fishing.  The bike will have a rear rack 
> and front mini rack.  
> Thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Always heard this about latex tubes

[Ron Mc]

Something to say about soft tires and low pressures. I rode 40 miles today 
on The Italian Huffy, with the 38mm Compass Barlow Pass.  I picked up a 
thumbtack in my front tire (40 psi) and heard it going around 1xR. I 
stopped -  it wasn't completely planted, but it was deep. I was spooked 
pulling it out expecting to hear the air come with it. But it didn't 
puncture the latex tube.  I've always read that latex would stretch around 
sharp objects without puncturing.  I made it home, and it's still holding 
pressure tonight. 


(Might not have been so kind on the 60psi rear with more of my weight).  

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[RBW] OT: carrying fishing poles on a bike

[WETH]

As I recall, a few list members fish.  My question, does anyone have 
suggestions for carrying poles on their bike?
The internet showed me some interesting homemade rack attachments using PVC 
pipe, other folk strap poles to the tI prune like a frame pump, others secure 
pole to waterbottle cage/ head tube, others take pole apart and put in a 
backpack.  And, I found this: http://www.bikefisherman.com. 
Am I missing any other options?
I am building up a bike for the son of a dear family friend to take to college. 
 He loves to fish.  When the build is complete, I want to help him devise a way 
to carry his pole for fishing.  The bike will have a rear rack and front mini 
rack.  
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

[masmojo]

Wow, that's about as good as you could have hoped for! Congratulations!

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Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Patrick Moore]

With modern, 2-piece cranksets with 1 arm attached to the spindle, the
spindle length is a given for the crank model, and crank models generally
work only within rather strict limits, that is, for certain types of frames
and rear hubs. For the older type of 3 piece square taper cranksets, with
arms both separate from the spindle, mfs recommend a spindle length for a
given rear hub width, sometimes modified by the width of the chainstays
where the are crossed by the rotating arms. But if you want to mix and
match, say, to use an old Deore triple on a 5 speed or, at the other
extreme, a 10 speed rear road bike, you'll need to experiment or ask
someone who has combined the 2 and knows the chainline wrt to the width of
the rear hub.

The situation can also be complicated by how you want to center your chain,
and whether you value chainline over minimum Q. I've used a 108 mm spindle
and a 145 mm spindle on almost identical frames, the choice determined by
chainline option, Q or "tread" or width between the outside faces of the
crank arms at pedal interfaces, gearing choices, rear hub width, and of
course the crank arm flare.

Patrick "learned the hard way that flared crank designs used different
spindle lengths than straight ones" Moore

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 3:58 PM, René Sterental  wrote:

> Slightly off topic... How do you determine the proper width of the bottom
> bracket?
> - when getting a custom frame and a set of cranks you've never had before?
> - when switching to a new different crankset than what you had before?
>
> René
>
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Re: [RBW] EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

[Patrick Moore]

The DB was a low end aluminum framed, cheap susp fork model that retailed
IIRC for $400 when it first came out -- late '90s or early '00s? It has
plastic twist grip shifters pulling a stamped steel, riveted no-model-name
Shimano rd over a 7 sp freewheel. Very definitely a cut below even the
middish level MB-3.

The almost 27" tall Maxxis Ikons fit on the Bridgestone, but not under the
front fender at the fork; I'll have to hack it there.

The MB-3's bb is 1/2"/almost 13 mm lower than that of the Race Lite, so
I'll keep the MB 3 and sell the RL frame, Bomber fork, bb, King headset,
and CF Bontrager crankset with external bearing bb. I will probably regear
to a 2X9 or even a 1X9 -- Catie won't be grinding up any steep hills; so
I'll need either a 38 t or a 34 t middle ring. The inner is 24 (outer is
48).

38/24 X 9:

26.75
38 24
12 85
14 73
15 68 43
16 64 40
17 60 38
19 54 34
22 46 29
26 39 25
30 34 21
Or 34 X 9:

26.75
34
12 76
13 70
14 65
15 61
17 54
19 48
23 40
28 32
36 25



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> Ah, that explains the nice parts..them -3s are great bikes. I'm curious
> how it compares to the Diamond Back she was riding.
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[RBW] EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

[WETH]

A good find. I love the color.

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[RBW] Bike for Catie/Clem substitute: Bridgestone CB3

[WETH]

Serendipity rules.
Well done!
"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

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[RBW] EM BEE THREE/MB-3 for Catie, not CB-3!

[Joe Bernard]

Ah, that explains the nice parts..them -3s are great bikes. I'm curious how it 
compares to the Diamond Back she was riding. 

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Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Clayton.sf]

Crank makers typically recommend a certain length.

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Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

[René Sterental]

Slightly off topic... How do you determine the proper width of the bottom
bracket?
- when getting a custom frame and a set of cranks you've never had before?
- when switching to a new different crankset than what you had before?

René

On Friday, April 29, 2016, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> My Atlantis arrived with a Tange 113mm BB.
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Philip Kim  > wrote:
>
>> i've gotten a hillborne & chev. both had tange BB's.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 5:20:47 PM UTC-4, Gum N Nuts wrote:
>>>
>>> What does Riv use for stock bottom brackets? I'm curious because I've
>>> had two different ones - one from a fully built-by-riv cheviot and one from
>>> a hillborne frameset - completely eat it. The one on the cheviot lasted
>>> about two hundred miles, maybe a thousand on the hillborne. No weird
>>> weather, sometimes loaded for camping but otherwise pretty normal riding.
>>> Replaced with $25 shimanos both times and no further worry after several
>>> thousand more miles on each.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 1:27:49 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:

 Why are more expensive bottom brackets more expensive? What do you
 gain? Is it just durability? Or is there any sort of performance gain (ie,
 does it roll smoother, faster, etc)?

 I've worked on most bike parts now minus the bottom bracket and
 headset. About to change cranks on my hunqapillar form the Sugino triple
 (with a 107 or 110 bb) to a White Industries Eno (with a 113 bb). Trying to
 figure out if I go w/ the $40 bb on Riv's site? Or a White Industries or
 something similar? This bike will see 500-1000 miles a year on dirt and
 some mud. And support the occasional overnighter.

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[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie/Clem substitute: Bridgestone CB3

[islaysteve]

Lucky girl, good Dad!

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[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie/Clem substitute: Bridgestone CB3

[Deacon Patrick]

Well done!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 2:56:28 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Again, thanks for all the suggestions and offers. This morning, a bit of 
> serendipity: someone was selling a CB3 at Stevie's, obviously upgraded with 
> old DX drivetrain and Sun Mistral/Mavic 7 sp freewheel wheelset. complete 
> with full fenders and Blackburn rear rack: $220. 
>
> I think -- subject to change -- I'll transfer over the wheelset and 
> brake/shift levers from the Race Lite and sell the remainders from both 
> bikes.
>
> Anyway, pretty good deal.
>
> The other bit of serendipity was finding a lightly used lower end but 
> still made in USA Martin, with very good case, for Catie at $429.
>
> Build report and photos forthcoming. Catie, needless to say, is much more 
> interested in the guitar than in the bike, but I think she'll like the 
> tubeless Maxxis Ikons.
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[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie/Clem substitute: Bridgestone CB3

[Ron Mc]

good find, and good job, dad

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bike season is upon us!

[boomer]

Only item(s) left .

4)  Brake lever combo, see pic, $30

Thanks to all others for fast response and payment.



On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:28:38 PM UTC-7, boomer wrote:
>
> All asking prices include shipping to US destinations. Please make an 
> offer if these seem too high, but I think they're close to "blow out" 
> prices if you include the shipping.  If you're in the Seattle area and can 
> pick the item up, adjustment to price can be made.
>
> 1)  Sugino Triple, 175mm, almost no wear  $95
> 2)  Batch of four front derailleurs,  $30
> 3)  "Rivet" cantilever brakes, all hardware included, $30
> 4)  Brake lever combo, see pic, $30
> 5)  Carbon fiber cantilever brakes, all hardware included, $45
> 6)  Double kickstand, $25
>
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[RBW] Bike for Catie/Clem substitute: Bridgestone CB3

[Patrick Moore]

Again, thanks for all the suggestions and offers. This morning, a bit of
serendipity: someone was selling a CB3 at Stevie's, obviously upgraded with
old DX drivetrain and Sun Mistral/Mavic 7 sp freewheel wheelset. complete
with full fenders and Blackburn rear rack: $220.

I think -- subject to change -- I'll transfer over the wheelset and
brake/shift levers from the Race Lite and sell the remainders from both
bikes.

Anyway, pretty good deal.

The other bit of serendipity was finding a lightly used lower end but still
made in USA Martin, with very good case, for Catie at $429.

Build report and photos forthcoming. Catie, needless to say, is much more
interested in the guitar than in the bike, but I think she'll like the
tubeless Maxxis Ikons.

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[RBW] Re: lowering a handlebar bag

[Dave Johnston]

I've done something similar with zip ties and a cheap plastic lunch cooler 
from walmart. The one I have has a full plastic tub inside for extra 
rigidity or ice. I have a clear pencil case sewn and velcro'd to the top 
for a map case as well (not shown) - zipper is too hard to use while 
ridding, but total project cost under $10








-Dave

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 2:56:47 PM UTC-4, jnyyz wrote:
>
> Finally got around to remounting an Arkel handlebar bag to a VO pass 
> hunter small rack. I realize that there are much fancier things out there, 
> but this was my solution with things that I had on hand, and the handing of 
> the bike no hands is much better than with the original mounting position. 
> The top of the bag is now well below the brake hoods, which also makes it 
> easier to access.
>
> https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/2016/04/30/handlebar-bags-and-handling/
>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Conversations with Grandma

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

>From Buckaroo Banzai – any earlier sources?

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:05 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Conversations with Grandma

Grandma is right:  no matter where you go, there you are (not an original 
thought on my part).

dougP

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 3:21:44 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
Yep .  . . . I was thinking about Grandma . . . sitting on the porch . .  
.and me out for a ride.  No matter where I go . .  . .still as ever she is ever 
at ease just enjoying the moment.  Every time I'm out riding and the idea pops 
up to go a little faster, a little harder up this hill , basically "improve 
where and what I am" . .  .. . I see my Grandma  saying "what are you trying to 
improve?"  Of course . . . Me , I answer , my ride .  "Oh .  . ..  improve it 
compared to when and what ?" she asks .  How I'm riding of course, now !  "You 
are riding right now, are you not ? and since you're riding right now, you 
don't need to go any faster because now isn't going any where, now is always 
just where you are and as you are. Now isn't fast and now isn't slow . . . it's 
always just rightly now . It's not what was and will never be what will be.  No 
one change it and no one can speed it up, it just kinda is this way." she says 
. .  . .  Huh .  . . . .   and I have no counter to this .  . . . for she is 
telling the truth and she knows nothing of a lie.

   Silly Me ! !So it all just goes away to where it never was . . . 
somewhere else but certainly not now !   And I just go about my merry way .  . 
. .riding along and smelling the roses :)


   Of course, likewise some-times I think Grandma isn't here , that she left 
some-time long ago never to be seen again.  Yet in my heart I know and hear . . 
 .it's always now and there's nowhere else to go or be, nothing else to do or 
say. , She's right where she has always been and will always be . My heart you 
see .


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Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

[Michael Hechmer]

I think I may have gotten to success.  I stopped by my favorite 
mechanic and chatted about it.  He immediately knew what the problem was 
and said it has become common place with rims designed for tubeless tires. 
Standard clinchers slip too low at the bottom. He suggested, after making 
sure the tube wasn't pinched,  spray the tires with soapy water and blowup 
the tire to its maximum pressure.  I have done this and it looks very good. 
 I'm letting the tires sit at 75-80 lbs for a while before letting half the 
air out and test riding.

Michael

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 9:12:50 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Older versiobs of the Synergies were reported to be worse than the newer 
> versions. Not sure how old yours are. Did you try the double rim tape yet?

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[RBW] Re: lowering a handlebar bag

[Michael Hechmer]

Interesting.  I too have an Arkel bag which we tried on three different 
bikes, always with negative results.  I considered trying to mount it 
lower, to a rack.  The zip ties don't excite me though as I often want to 
take the bag off to see / work on the front brakes or tighten something up. 
 I wonder if some hook & loop could be attached, along with straps to the 
HBs?

Michael

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 2:56:47 PM UTC-4, jnyyz wrote:
>
> Finally got around to remounting an Arkel handlebar bag to a VO pass 
> hunter small rack. I realize that there are much fancier things out there, 
> but this was my solution with things that I had on hand, and the handing of 
> the bike no hands is much better than with the original mounting position. 
> The top of the bag is now well below the brake hoods, which also makes it 
> easier to access.
>
> https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/2016/04/30/handlebar-bags-and-handling/
>
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[RBW] lowering a handlebar bag

[jnyyz]

Finally got around to remounting an Arkel handlebar bag to a VO pass hunter 
small rack. I realize that there are much fancier things out there, but 
this was my solution with things that I had on hand, and the handing of the 
bike no hands is much better than with the original mounting position. The 
top of the bag is now well below the brake hoods, which also makes it 
easier to access.

https://jnyyz.wordpress.com/2016/04/30/handlebar-bags-and-handling/

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[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

[Dave Johnston]

I would think a used Long Haul Trucker would be ideal.

I would avoid a cruiser type frame. I have one and its just a dog to ride. 
I love biking and it makes me hate biking more than 5mi on a boardwalk.

These Vitus city bikes look pretty cool, some like the Dee 29 come stock 
with 29x2.1 tires. Most US city bikes are 700x35 with not much room for 
more. Disc brakes allow a smaller wheel for lower BB if required. The link 
below is a UK retailer. Not sure about US distributors or UK to US shipping 
fees.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/vitus-bikes/hybrid-city-bikes?utm_source=crchub_medium=crchubnews_campaign=vituscitybikebikeradar2016



-Dave J

On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> After typing that heading, I paused to ask myself if the question is 
> kosher for this list. But I think it is; it has to do with my desire to get 
> a fat tired bike with large bb drop for my daughter.
>
> I can't afford a Clem, but I think the Clem would be ideal for her: 
> pushing 15, very occasional rider who just the other day suggested that I 
> take her riding (tears to my eyes!); the landscape the bosque near my house 
> which is laced with nice trails, but with sandy soil; a bike that can 
> accommodate 60 mm tires and ride decently on flat dirt but also on pavement.
>
> If I do this right, daughter may in 10 years commission 6 Rivendell 
> customs, so who knows.
>
> 1990s mountain bikes are a possible -- she has a cheap very early aughts .
>
> Diamond Back mtb -- but really, she will be more comfortable with a frame 
> with far more bb drop.
>
> Build: sprung saddle; swept back bar; wide range 1Xn gearing.
>
> Use: rides with Dad, riding to nearby school with 1000 lb backpack.
>
> Ideas? Thanks.
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>
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>
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[RBW] WTB: Betty FOY, 50CM

[Michael Hechmer]

A long shot but a potential birthday gift for my daughter.  She has been 
. much admiring her mothers Betty.  She is currently riding a Soma we 
purchased almost 20 years ago, so an up grade is in order.

Michael

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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE : Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road All Terrain 700x43 Tire

[Charlie]

These were replaced with much fatter tires - I  really liked them could 
ride on any surface , road or gravel + dirt.

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 10:43:27 AM UTC-4, Charlie wrote:
>
> 2 BRUCE GORDON  Rock n' Road All Terrain 700x43 Tires
>
> Used on my "VACATION BIKE"  hauled around in my truck , in case I found a 
> place and time to ride. Very little use - in very good condition - no flats
>
> $75 CASH or USPS money order - shipped to USA  addresses. NO PAY PAL
>
> OFF LIST = charliepedal (at ) verizon (dot net)
>
> Charlie Petry
> Jennersville PA
> Show trimmed content 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Double top tube Hillborne, complete bike with Rock and Roads, for Seattle area members

[Wayne Naha]

Very nice!  Good luck with the sale.

On Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 10:19:48 AM UTC-4, boomer wrote:
>
> It's on Craig List in Seattle right now.  If you're in the area and you're 
> interested, I can drop $150 off my asking price or we can come up with a 
> price.  I could also add or remove parts to make a deal.
>  
> Please excuse the double posting on "internet-BOB".
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/5562934432.html
>
> Thanks for looking.
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[RBW] Re: Conversations with Grandma

[Steven Butcher]

I love this!   Your grandma was obviously very wise and instilled some of 
that wisdom in you, Garth.  Thanks!

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 5:21:44 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
> Yep .  . . . I was thinking about Grandma . . . sitting on the porch . 
> .  .and me out for a ride.  No matter where I go . .  . .still as ever she 
> is ever at ease just enjoying the moment.  Every time I'm out riding and 
> the idea pops up to go a little faster, a little harder up this hill , 
> basically "improve where and what I am" . .  .. . I see my Grandma  saying 
> "what are you trying to improve?"  Of course . . . Me , I answer , my ride 
> .  "Oh .  . ..  improve it compared to when and what ?" she asks .  How I'm 
> riding of course, now !  "You are riding right now, are you not ? and since 
> you're riding right now, you don't need to go any faster because now isn't 
> going any where, now is always just where you are and as you are. Now isn't 
> fast and now isn't slow . . . it's always just rightly now . It's not what 
> was and will never be what will be.  No one change it and no one can speed 
> it up, it just kinda is this way." she says . .  . .  Huh .  . . . .   and 
> I have no counter to this .  . . . for she is telling the truth and she 
> knows nothing of a lie.  
>
>Silly Me ! !So it all just goes away to where it never was . . . 
> somewhere else but certainly not now !   And I just go about my merry way 
> .  . . .riding along and smelling the roses :)  
>
>
>Of course, likewise some-times I think Grandma isn't here , that she 
> left some-time long ago never to be seen again.  Yet in my heart I know and 
> hear . .  .it's always now and there's nowhere else to go or be, nothing 
> else to do or say. , She's right where she has always been and will always 
> be . My heart you see .  
>
>
>   That's all , thank you for reading. 
>

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[RBW] Nitto F25 Front Rack?

[Glen]

Has anyone seen or does anyone have one of these front racks?

It looks like the perfect large rack for my Atlantis without mid-fork braze 
ons.

I'd like to hear some reviews before spending $200 on one.

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[RBW] Re: FS: B67 Aged and Bosco Bullmoose Bar

[Mattt]

The B67 is sold.  Any offers on the Bullmoose Bosco bars?

 

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[RBW] FS: 64cm Atlantis, 2tt, $1450

[Michael Williams]

hey group,   Up for sale is a 64cm Atlantis,  2 top tubes,   ~ 2 years young!   
The bike is just a bit too big.  Asking $1450 for frame/ fork.  Buyer pays for 
packing/ shipping.   If at all interested,  message me off list please!   
Thanks!  -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

[Lungimsam]

Older versiobs of the Synergies were reported to be worse than the newer 
versions. Not sure how old yours are. Did you try the double rim tape yet?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

[Michael Hechmer]

These are not brand new tires or wheels.  I bought them with a new set of 
wheels, if memory is good, a few years ago from someone on this list 
(perhaps the guy who owns a shop in Minneapolis?)  and they arrived with 
pari moto tires.  All was good.   Last year, I decided to replace the Natty 
Bumps on Pat's Betty because they really crowded the fenders and so bought 
two new pari-motos, putting the new ones on the front of each bike.  No 
problem getting the tires on the rims at all, but when I took the bike out 
on the road I got a vibration above 25mph.  Investigation and some help 
from here turned up the nature of the diving issue.  I worked & worked at 
it and got it fixed.  This Spring I replaced the tube to fix a slow leak 
problem and was very careful remounting the tire.  I thought I was good 
enough, but when I went out on the road, got the same front end noise. 
 I've redone the job but haven't had time to road test them.  I'm feeling 
pretty frustrated.

Michael

On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 11:02:35 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> The first mount on Synergies is the toughest. They seat much easier after 
> that in my experience. No crying after the first time.
>
> But even with Synergies I had no problem pulling off and putting on tires. 
> It was just the bead seating that was tough.
> But I found that as long as they were very close, maybe only one area of 
> bead diving a smidge under the rim edge per side, they would seat the rest 
> of the way with a slow spin up and down the street. Flat street. About a 
> one minute ride.
> So if I just fixed a roadside Synergy flat and it wasnt seated easily, I 
> would try riding it slowly for one minute and then get off and see if that 
> smooshed everything in place. If all is good, ride on!
>
> But I can say I won't buy Synergies again if I have a choice. I like the 
> GB rims so much. They seat almost automatically for the Hetres and Loups 
> and Cypress.
>
>

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