Re: [RBW] Rosco Ride Reports

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Thought I saw a Rosco in Berkeley ridden by a guy with a daughter in front
of him in a little seat.  Seemed to be enjoying his ride.

Toshi


On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:04 PM, CoalTrain  wrote:

> I'm on the fence about buying in on the next round. I know it's subjective
> but how are Rosco owners enjoying their new rides?
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Re: [RBW] Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

[Lungimsam]

I had to work so I could not come. I hope to be able to do this route sometime. 
Never clumb a mountain before. Sounds like so much fun!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 7 spd bar end shifters

[twowheeledtexan]

Thanks for the info. I think I'll try the 8 of 9. Yes, I'd like indexed 
shifting, currently have Silver shifters but I prefer the indexing. 

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 9:38:06 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I'm shifting 7 with *Riv bar end pods* 
>  and my old Zeus downtube 
> levers - works great
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> Rivendell also sells* silver shifters in bar end pods 
> * and these are very good 
> ratcheted shifters.  
>
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[RBW] Re: Parts FS

[Eric Langley]

Hi,

Interested in the Ultegra FD. Does it have a clamp, if so, the clamp 
diameter?

Eric

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Jame E]

I have another mixte, but I did want to make a recommendation to those of 
you with mixte or other step-through frames.

I have this leather frame handle 

 
on my bike. I am sure a crafty person could better one as well (the prices 
has increased quite a bit since I purchased).  But this makes it way easier 
to navigate the stairs with my mixte.  It puts your hand in the perfect 
place!

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:30:14 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
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> Hey Sean,
>
> I've owned both the Chev & Sam, before switching to the Hunq which fit 
> more of my fat tire needs, and the ability to shoulder my bike up and down 
> my apartment stairs.
>
> If  you don't have to carry the bike up and down any stairs and don't need 
> room for more than 45mm tires, I think the Chev is an excellent choice for 
> what you want. The Sam with albatross bars didn't quite work well even when 
> I had it with a 110mm stem, my hands kept getting pushed to the curves, but 
> the Albatross bars work so well with the Chev. I personally had a better 
> time riding the Chev than the Sam.
>
> If the Chev had cantis/v brakes, I would definitely have kept it. I still 
> love my Hunq though.
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 8:45:34 AM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I had the opportunity to spend a few hours at Riv HQ a few Saturday's 
>> ago.  I had a wonderful time - I rode four bikes (Clem, Cheviot, Sam and 
>> Hubbuhubbah), and walked away with a medium saddlesack bag.  Still smile 
>> when I think about the fun I had.  Most of my riding (about an hour) was 
>> done on the Clem.  I enjoyed the ride, but it did not really speak to me.  
>> Perhaps it was just too different from the bikes that I typically ride.  
>> Strangely enough, the bike that emerged as my favorite was the Cheviot.  I 
>> can't seem to get it out of my head.  In fact, ever since I returned home, 
>> I have been trying to figure out if I loved the Chev enough to purchase one 
>> before they go away.  Here is my situation.
>>
>> About ten years ago I had a custom-built Bob Brown Cycle made for me.  I 
>> nearly bought a Rambouillet, but chose Bob Brown instead.  It was my 
>> poor-man's red convertible that I got for my 40th birthday.  That bike 
>> complimented my circa 1990 Trek 520 quite well.  My Bob Brown was 
>> quick-ish, sporty and fun to ride.  However, as the years went by, I found 
>> it to be increasingly uncomfortable for longer ride.  Two years ago I 
>> bought a Black Mountain Road bike.  This bike has a bit more relaxed 
>> geometry.  I really love this bike - it is much more comfortable than Bob 
>> Brown, and has become the bike that I grab most often.  In fact, Bob Brown 
>> typically sees the road only once or twice a year - it is typically the 
>> bike that I use on my indoor trainer.  My Trek 520 has been turned into a 
>> grocery-getter.  However, it does not bring me a great deal of joy to ride, 
>> but it gets the job done.
>>
>> In my mind, I see the Cheviot as a replacement for my Trek 520.  Nearly 
>> all of the components that I have on the Trek would easily transfer to the 
>> Chev - meaning that my initial output of cash would be only for the frame.
>>
>> I've read through everything that I can find on the list about the 
>> Cheviot.  I would love to hear impressions from those who have had the bike 
>> long term.  Likes?  Dislikes?  Dealing with the "guy on a girl's bike" 
>> thing is perhaps an issue.  However, as I approach 50 I see the benefit of 
>> the lower top tube.  Besides, when I rode the Cheviot in Walnut Creek, I 
>> did not even think about the fact that I was riding a mixte, as I was 
>> simply enjoying the ride.
>>
>> I live in a small town in western New York - with short rides (mile or 
>> two) to the co-op grocery store, library, post office, etc.  This is the 
>> type of riding, along with occasional paved and/or gravel path riding) that 
>> I see myself doing with a Cheviot.  What do you think -- good choice in 
>> bikes?
>>
>> What about a Sam?  I rode a Sam the other day as well, but it was set up 
>> with Noodle bars, and rode much more like a typical road bike.  If I set it 
>> up with Albatross bars, bags, etc how would it likely compare with the 
>> Cheviot?  Would it ride the same and put the same smile on my face without 
>> causing me and/or those seeing me question my manliness?
>>
>> Any insight on these issues would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> East Aurora, NY
>>
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[RBW] Re: Tire advice

[bo richardson]

I wanted the widest tires I could fit on the Rambouillet with fenders. I have 
32 marathons on it now. 

I was frustrated because I couldn't find ruffy tuffys or gravel king slicks in 
32. But someone on the list mentioned gravel King 32s and so I went back to 
searching and found them everywhere except Bike tires Direct and Western Bikes.

thank you all for your help in this matter.Lots of nice 28s out there on sale 
but 32s are almost like searching for 27".
I ajlmost went with the Reccomended Soma but 33 is a little wider and the price 
difference for two tires was 40$.
I would like to know more about the somas however, for next time.

Thanks again.

Bo

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[RBW] Introducing the wife to night riding.

[bo richardson]

I think night riding before the bars close is safer than during the day. Fewer 
cars, less for the cars to look at since it is dark,. If you are lit up they 
can see you better than during the day.

One of the nicest rides I ever had was after leaving Seattle late one 
afternoon, I ended up headed north on Chuckanut headed for Bellingham around 
eleven pm night. I think three cars passed me in ten miles. Some ambient light 
and lovely scenery and quiet in unbelievable ways. I shut the Schmidt and LED 
off for most of the ride.

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Re: [RBW] Quickbling

[Joe Bunik]

Toei front rack by way of Jitensha Studio?
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 8/14/16, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> Tell us about the front rack.
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> Bill Lindsay
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[RBW] Re: Quickbling

[comveo]

Esteban! 


That setup looks excellent. So happy that the wheels found a new home on 
such a thoughtful build. Very tastefully done : )


Enjoy!


-Bryan

On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 12:33:47 PM UTC-4, Esteban wrote:
>
> Revived my orange QB with some Paul/Dyad wheels and a Paul crankset & post 
> to join the existing Franken-brake team of Neo-Retro/Touring. Like all 
> other Riv SS riders, this feels just like a perfect bike!
>
> https://flic.kr/p/L8CKjp
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: One Pair Grand Bois Hetres 650B x 42

[Eric Norris]

Hetres nave been sold. 

–Eric N


> On Aug 14, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> Bought these from a fellow list member, but it turns out they’re slightly too 
> wide to work on my bike.
> 
> Nice pair of tires with apparently almost no miles on them. A little dirty, 
> but otherwise 90% perfect. A few minutes with an SOS pad will have them 
> looking like new. 
> 
> Standard (not Extra Leger) tan casing; black tread.
> 
> $75 shipped in the CONUS.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

[Jeff Lesperance]

Outstanding ride today! I'll give more of a report tomorrow when I recharge
a bit, but the highlights are: good people, great pre-ride coffee, rad
bikes, hot, awesome fire road ride with decent climbs/elevation,
insanely hot, cool pond stop at the top of the climb, crazy fire road
descent, downpour for the last few miles.

There were a few Hunq's and Atlanti, a couple B-stones, including co-owner
Tracy under biking on an RB-1. Thanks to James and Tracy for hosting!

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes <
gravelandgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you live in the DC area, come on out to Gravel & Grind
>  Sunday the 14th for our
> Rivendell and Bridgestone Owners Bunch coffee ride and social. Details at
> http://gravelandgrind.com/rivendell-bridgestone-coffee/ It looks like a
> good turn so far but we wanna see tons of cool bikes and meet rad new
> folks. Unrelated sort of, but these pics are from  recent Sam and Atlantis
> builds we did. They’ll be at the shop to check out, along with a bunch of
> other Riv bikes, framesets bags, etc.
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[RBW] Re: Quickbling

[Jim M.]

Sweet! A few years ago we had a fixed/SS Riv ride in Marin with several 
QB's and a bunch of others. Climbing Camino Alto was challenging but a 
great ride. We should do it again.

jim m
wc ca

On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 9:33:47 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> Revived my orange QB with some Paul/Dyad wheels and a Paul crankset & post 
> to join the existing Franken-brake team of Neo-Retro/Touring. Like all 
> other Riv SS riders, this feels just like a perfect bike!
>
> https://flic.kr/p/L8CKjp
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
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[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

['Mobile Bill' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I commute and joy ride several thousand miles a year on my Saluki and Betty 
Foy. I have a hard enough time funding shoes that fit comfortably. Thank 
goodness I don't have to buy special shoes to clip into my pedals. I've 
used Power Grips with MKS touring pedals on my Saluki for nearly a decade 
(I used clips before that). I seldom fall behind when I ride with other 
riders, but I am certain that when I do, it has absolutely nothing to do 
with my pedals or my shoes or how they are connected. The Power Grips do 
have some benefits, and here's how I know: I sometimes wish I had them on 
the Betty Foy. In wet climates like the one I live in, they definitely keep 
the average shoe from slipping on the pedals.I wished for them the other 
night, riding the Betty home in the rain, as my shoes wandered all over the 
pedals. Some people (Grant?) have suggested that the extra contact on the 
brief transition to an upstroke or a downstroke is beneficial, particularly 
on hills. I'm not sure about this, but the power grips do seem to provide a 
bit of extra confidence as I'm grinding away on steep hills with aggressive 
companion riders. On dry days, and when I'm cranking on my way to the 
normal business of living, I can say with utter confidence that regular 
shoes and regular ol pedals haven't ever been improved upon.


On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:11:32 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Some time ago I swapped the Shimano M324 pedals on the Hon Solo for MKS 
> GR9s, complete with Christophes, toe strap buckle pads, and strap buttons. 
> The GR9 is a cheap pedal, not nearly as nice as the MKS Urban, which I also 
> tried briefly, but the flip tab on the -9 is simply the best, IMO. 
>
> At any rate, the ease of entry and the flexibility with regard to footwear 
> are benefits that once again loom large on my mental horizon, and I'm 
> thinking of switching at least one of the Rivendells back to clips and 
> straps. As an additional motive, I just found a very good garage-shop 
> cobbler, and I have a pair of very nice, old leather soled Rivats that need 
> re-soling.
>
> And I know from experience that slipping the Rivats into semi-tight straps 
> on MKS RX-1 pedals is a hellofalot easier than getting into KEOS.
>
> Presently the '99 has lightweight double sided Expedos, and the '03 has 
> some upper-middle-class Shimano double sided mtb pedals from 10 or 15 years 
> ago; both very good.
>
> I'm thinking out loud: should I or should I not switch?
>
> More practically: how many of y'all use clips and straps? Clips and straps 
> and slotted cleats?
>
> Probably I should just ride the bikes and shut up. But I *do* like clips 
> and straps, and the decennially recurring question is now up for answer.
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[RBW] Re: Quickbling

[Deacon Patrick]

Oooo. Shiny! Is San Diego flat? I recall it having some rolling 
hills, some fairly steep (but it's been decades and I was 15). I can't 
imagine shifting my cranks to single from double. But those cranks look 
great!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 10:33:47 AM UTC-6, Esteban wrote:
>
> Revived my orange QB with some Paul/Dyad wheels and a Paul crankset & post 
> to join the existing Franken-brake team of Neo-Retro/Touring. Like all 
> other Riv SS riders, this feels just like a perfect bike!
>
> https://flic.kr/p/L8CKjp
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
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[RBW] Re: New Clem-L Bike Day

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic, Linda! Beautiful bike and how wonderful to get out and ride 
again! May you enjoy many happy miles together!

With abandon,
Patrick


On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 5:10:23 PM UTC-6, LLM wrote:
>
> The Clem-L Complete that I pre-ordered back in April, arrived this past 
> Friday.  (Happy dance!!)  The photo was taken today during my first grocery 
> run with the bike.  The approximately 11-mile round trip is my longest ride 
> to date since a 2-year disability layoff from cycling, and recent hip 
> replacements.  The low gearing covered for my still low levels of fitness 
> and aerobic capacity, as I huffed and puffed across the rolling hills of 
> Albany, NY.  If it had not been in the 90's with oppressively high 
> humidity, I could have gone further.  Aside from the thumb shifters, which 
> I am still figuring out how to use well, riding the bike is easy and fun.
>
>
> 
> I added the "requisite" Mark's Rack with a Wald medium basket and medium 
> Sackville ShopSack. The AXE Victory frame lock (recently added to the Riv 
> site) fits easily over the P65 fenders.  I like not having to fumble with a 
> u-lock.  I've stowed a cable lock in the Sackville Multisack for securing 
> the front wheel and frame to bike racks. The gum grips are by Rustine, and 
> bell by Spurcycle.  I usually ride Brooks saddles, and I have a B67S that I 
> thought I would put on the bike.  However, I'm finding the stock saddle to 
> be pretty comfortable, at least for short hops, and for now, I like not 
> having to worry about rain falling on leather.  I have a Pletscher Clem 
> rack in the wings that I will add at some point.  I'll probably also swap 
> in the nice Wellgo platform pedals from my Surly.  For now, the bike has 
> all I need.
>
> My early impression is that the bike is going to be perfect for me!
>
> Linda
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[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

[Tony DeFilippo]

Thanks James, I sent you a note off list!

Tony

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[RBW] Quickbling

[Bill Lindsay]

Tell us about the front rack. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Rosco Ride Reports

[CoalTrain]

I'm on the fence about buying in on the next round. I know it's subjective but 
how are Rosco owners enjoying their new rides?

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[RBW] New Clem-L Bike Day

[WETH]

Beautiful bike! Congratulations!

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[RBW] New Clem-L Bike Day

[Jon in central Colorado]

Nice bike Linda
Congratulations and happy to hear you are do doing well and back to riding.

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[RBW] FS: One Pair Grand Bois Hetres 650B x 42

[Eric Norris]

Bought these from a fellow list member, but it turns out they’re slightly too 
wide to work on my bike.

Nice pair of tires with apparently almost no miles on them. A little dirty, but 
otherwise 90% perfect. A few minutes with an SOS pad will have them looking 
like new. 

Standard (not Extra Leger) tan casing; black tread.

$75 shipped in the CONUS.

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[RBW] Re: New Clem-L Bike Day

[LLM]

Yes, we did, Joethanks again for your help!  It's a hard color to 
describe, and difficult to capture with a camera.  Kind of a stormy 
turquoise/tealbut subject to change depending on the lighting.  I like 
it a lot.

On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 7:29:14 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Very nice! I love the blue, which I believe we discussed after I bought my 
> blue Appaloosa. We were right! :)

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[RBW] New Clem-L Bike Day

[Joe Bernard]

Very nice! I love the blue, which I believe we discussed after I bought my blue 
Appaloosa. We were right! :)

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[RBW] Free hub body comes loose

[Howard Hatten]

Group help needed. 
Lately my shifting has been getting bad. I've checked the deraileur hanger and 
it is good. I switched to friction mode and it worked fine. All of the 
driveline has been cleaned and lubed. Thought I was good to go but today I 
developed an annoying clicking sound on all the pedal strokes. A roadside 
inspection revealed a wobble in my wheel. When I got home I pulled the bearings 
out and to my surprise the free hub body fell off on the floor. The attachment 
bolt somehow completely unscrewed itself.  Has anybody ever had this happen. 
Almost seems like it was never tightened when assembled. 

Thanks
Howard
Livonia Mi

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[RBW] New Clem-L Bike Day

[LLM]

The Clem-L Complete that I pre-ordered back in April, arrived this past 
Friday.  (Happy dance!!)  The photo was taken today during my first grocery 
run with the bike.  The approximately 11-mile round trip is my longest ride 
to date since a 2-year disability layoff from cycling, and recent hip 
replacements.  The low gearing covered for my still low levels of fitness 
and aerobic capacity, as I huffed and puffed across the rolling hills of 
Albany, NY.  If it had not been in the 90's with oppressively high 
humidity, I could have gone further.  Aside from the thumb shifters, which 
I am still figuring out how to use well, riding the bike is easy and fun.


I added the "requisite" Mark's Rack with a Wald medium basket and medium 
Sackville ShopSack. The AXE Victory frame lock (recently added to the Riv 
site) fits easily over the P65 fenders.  I like not having to fumble with a 
u-lock.  I've stowed a cable lock in the Sackville Multisack for securing 
the front wheel and frame to bike racks. The gum grips are by Rustine, and 
bell by Spurcycle.  I usually ride Brooks saddles, and I have a B67S that I 
thought I would put on the bike.  However, I'm finding the stock saddle to 
be pretty comfortable, at least for short hops, and for now, I like not 
having to worry about rain falling on leather.  I have a Pletscher Clem 
rack in the wings that I will add at some point.  I'll probably also swap 
in the nice Wellgo platform pedals from my Surly.  For now, the bike has 
all I need.

My early impression is that the bike is going to be perfect for me!

Linda

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[RBW] Re: FS-Big MUSA and Wool, Bags, and more...

[scott]

Here is what is left:

One pair of XXL Swobo wool knickers with a pad. Don't know if they make 
these anymore. Very, very, very lightly used. $20 shipped

One Carradice bag support, like the Silver Hupe. Rubber intact, not that it 
matters, as it will scratch your frame no matter what! $15 shipped. 

One Frost River small handlebar bag. Very lightly used. $30 shipped.

One pair of Schwalbe Marathon tires. 700x32. Not much wear. $20 shipped. 




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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Sean McAtee]

Howard -

Congratulations on your frame order!  I noticed earlier today that there
were only three grey Cheviots left.  I have a funny feeling that I am going
to follow your lead before the day is over.  A Cheviot is quickly becoming
the bike that I do not want to let get away.

I can't seem to recall past practice on "older" frames when a new set
arrives.  Is it likely that the remaining "old" Cheviots in stock will be
priced a bit lower as a web special?  I do like the green color of the
current frame.  However, it lacks the cream headtube of the newer models.

I will be moving the vast majority of the parts over from an old Trek 520 -
Albastache bars, Brooks B 17 saddle, Shimano derailleurs, etc.  However, I
will need to get a new set of wheels, as my current bikes all have 130 cm
rear hub spacing.  I'm probably going to buy an inexpensive set of wheels,
such as these currently being offered by Rivendell:  wheels
.  I will also likely add
a new crank - likely the Sugino XD2 wide/low.

I am looking at using a Cheviot for the same general purposes as you.
Congratulations again.

Sean



On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Howard Hatten  wrote:

> Hi Leah
> Not sure when I'll take delivery. Sounds like frames are on the way to
> RBW.  I'm going with a frame set. Not sure how the build will end up. I
> plan to make this my grocery getter & pub crawler. Winter project I suspect.
> Howard
> Livonia Mi
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Howard Hatten]

Hi Leah
Not sure when I'll take delivery. Sounds like frames are on the way to RBW.  
I'm going with a frame set. Not sure how the build will end up. I plan to make 
this my grocery getter & pub crawler. Winter project I suspect. 
Howard
Livonia Mi

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[RBW] Parts FS

[Joe Bernard]

PM sent, especially for those cool blue levers. I'm swapping Choco-Moose bars 
onto my Appaloosa, and those would look great with the blue frame. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Leah Peterson]

Beyond excited for you. Envious, even! When do you expect to take delivery? 
Whole bike, or frame set?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Howard Hatten  wrote:
> 
> Been following this post. I've been trying to decide if I want that 60 green 
> demo Chev.  RBW is currently listing or that grey with cream accents frame 
> set. Bobs post that he has a 60 on order led me to search the quantity 
> availability. Wow, only 4 60cm's left in grey.  What to do, what to do.  
> Decided, now there's only 3 left. 
> 
> Howard
> Waiting in Livonia Mi. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Howard Hatten]

Been following this post. I've been trying to decide if I want that 60 green 
demo Chev.  RBW is currently listing or that grey with cream accents frame set. 
Bobs post that he has a 60 on order led me to search the quantity availability. 
Wow, only 4 60cm's left in grey.  What to do, what to do.  Decided, now there's 
only 3 left. 

Howard
Waiting in Livonia Mi. 

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[RBW] Re: Wool Shirts/Jerseys

[Sean Kline]

I'm not generally a fan of bicycle-specific looking clothing, but love this 
vintage-inspired, San Francisco-made all wool jersey by 
Orqo: http://www.orqo.co/products/jersey. 

Cheers,
Sean

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 7:44:36 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I've had pretty good luck with a few Smartwool items I bought on sale at 
> Sierra Trading Post (long sleeve under $50). Get on their email list and 
> watch for good deals (particularly when they offer a discount and free 
> shipping).  Otherwise, their prices are pretty average.  I think I also 
> bought a few from the REI Outlet (now called REI Garage).  I'd buy 
> Icebreaker too if they went on as deep discount as Smartwool.
>
> John
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Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to design a poor man's faux Riv "just ride" bicycle ....

[Patrick Moore]

The 3 Sportses I've owned felt in comparison to the (2) Sprites and (1)
Collegiate as if they had:

1. Too low a Q
2. Too short a top tube (or too little reach to bar)

I felt while riding them I was too much "on top" of the bike instead of
"in" it, a sensation I didn't have with the others, but similar to the
feeling with the Indian rod brake roadsters.

The Sprites I owned didn't feel like this, nor did the Collegiate.

Is it true that the Sprite frame was the same as the Sports frame? They
certainly didn't feel so to me.


On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Shawn Granton <
urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Well, I still stand by my impressions too, after riding 3 Sports-type
> Raleighs! ;-P
>
> Though I am still curious what exactly makes them "ungainly" in your
> opinion. And why a Sprite, which is pretty much a Sports/Suberbe/LTD frame,
> though many came with a 5 or 10 speed derailleur setup (and later models
> switched to 27 inch wheels), feels less ungainly than a Sports. Or why a
> Collegiate feels less awkward than a Sports, since many people feel that
> the lugged Raleigh frames are lighter and "sportier" than the Chicago
> eletroforged frames.
>
> -Shawn
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[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

Hey Tony, ya left you front wheel on the curb.  We'll keep it safe, but I 
wanted to give ya a heads up!  -james

On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
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> Sure thing, I was waffling on what to bring so this makes it easier!
>
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2016 at 12:12:35 PM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind Espresso 
> + Bikes wrote:
>
>> Tony, bring the Bomba!  I'm thinking about getting one, and I'd love to 
>> see one in person!  
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:01:04 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to the bikes n coffee this weekend!  My wife and I 
>>> can't ride yet with the 7 week old in tow but I'll bring her Clementine and 
>>> either my Saluki or Bombadil to show...  Hope to see plenty of folks out 
>>> there!
>>
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[RBW] Re: What size A. Homer Hilsen should I get, 54 or 56?

[Christopher Wiggins]

I have a PBH of 81 and ride my saddle at 70.5.  My AHH is a 54.  I could 
have gotten the 55 but I wanted a bike with 650b wheels (at the time the 55 
would have had 700c wheels).  I would never say that I had "too much" 
seatpost showing.  It's not nearly a "fist full".  I don't think what the 
fellas told you was a contradiction at all.  However, at the end of the day 
it's going to be your bike, and your decision. 

Chris Wiggins
A1 Cyclery

On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 11:02:07 PM UTC-4, blakcloud wrote:
>
> Yes, I have contacted Riv on this but I am leery of their suggestion as it 
> puts me on a bike that is smaller than I have ridden and this information 
> contradicts their own charts on the website.
>
> 81 cm PBH
> 71 cm Saddle height
>
> The chart on this page  
> would suggest a 55 or 56 (for 650 wheelset), yet I was told a 54 cm would 
> fit better. My inclination by looking at the geometry charts would be a 56. 
>
> What bothers me about the 54 is the amount of seat post that will be 
> showing. I dislike a lot of post showing. 
>
> Here is a photo 
> 
>  
> of a 54 with a 70 cm saddle height and for my tastes, too much post is 
> showing. My post would be 1 cm. higher and more of it showing because I 
> would use a shallower saddle.
>
> For those who have a 54 or 56 what is your PBH and or saddle height? What 
> would you suggest?
>
> For the record I own a 52 cm Sam Hilborne. It is built as a 
> commuter/picnic bike. Full fenders, front rack, basket, rear rack Albatross 
> bars, Brooks B67, dynamo, Schwalbe Marathons and kickstand. The Hilsen 
> would be a bare bones bike with Map/Ahearne bars, Hetre's etc. I have 
> everything for this build but I just don''t have a frame yet. This is going 
> to be my non-commuter bike.  
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Quickbling

[Esteban]

Revived my orange QB with some Paul/Dyad wheels and a Paul crankset & post to 
join the existing Franken-brake team of Neo-Retro/Touring. Like all other Riv 
SS riders, this feels just like a perfect bike!

https://flic.kr/p/L8CKjp

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

[John Hawrylak]

Shimano 600 platforms worked for me with it's clip and straps

However, I switched to Shimano Look Deltas and never looked back (no pun 
intended),  Much smoother pedal stroke.  No reaching down to open the strap.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Parts FS

[nawrock]

All are in good condition, pix available on request. 
Paypal, bank money order or Riv gift cert for payment. 

Wheel set, Ultegra hubs, mavic open pro rims 32 hole 700c with matching 
skewers, re spaced at bike shop from 130 to 135. $100 plus shipping with bike 
flights. 

Suguino Crankset, 170, triple, can remove chain rings if not needed. $40 

Deore XT rear der M750 $20 

Ultegra rear der 6500 $20 

Ultegra FD 650 works on a triple $15 

Tektro R538 long reach brake set front and rear w/koolstop pads taken off my 
Rodeo $30 

Nitto Crystal Fellow S65 single bolt $25 

MKS touring light pedals $20 

Dia Comp Brake levers, fit Albatross bars, SS-5 MK, color blue, Riv sold these 
awhile back $20 

Tektro Interrupters, Rx 2.0, $20 


Dave Nawrocki 
Fort Collins, CO 

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[RBW] Re: What size A. Homer Hilsen should I get, 54 or 56?

[John Hawrylak]

Tom

I am 5'7", my PBH is 80.6cm and SH is 70.5cm .  I have 2 21" (53.3cm C-T) 
Schwinn Panasonics. 

Both have 80 to 95mm of straight seat post showing and both need apporx 
125mm of quill length to obtain HB height = SH.  STA and HTA and TTL are
75 Voyagur II   STA = 73deg,  HTA = 72deg,   TTL = 57cm  Stem Length = 
80mm   Cockpit length = 64.5cmPossibly Sakae Radon HB (stock)
88 Voyagur  STA = 74deg,  HTA = 71deg,   TTL = 54.5cm   Stem Length = 
100mm Cockpit Length = 63 cm Nitto Noodle

If I had my choice a 55 or 56 cm frame with a 56 TTL would probably be 
best.   So I would choose the larger if the TTL made sense.

The RBW advice given seems strange since they always seemed to favor the 
larger size

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


>

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[RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[kielsun]

This is coming up soon! What time do folks want to meet? 7?

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[RBW] Re: CSJ: Non-moose Boscos

[Kai Vierstra]

SKS 65's, P65 is the designation I think? They've been on a shelf for 6 months 
waiting for that bike. They're not really big enough for the "Big Ones", but 
they're big enough that I had to trim them due to rubbing from the chain when 
in low low low gear. Now that I've trimmed the fender the chain rubs the tire 
if I'm that low, which I'm rarely in. Still plenty of room between the 2.35"ers 
and the frame and fork. I should measure those to see what the real width is on 
the massive Alex DM24 rims (which look like they might be tubeless compatible 
but Riv says they don't think so and Alex rims isn't very good at returning my 
email).
-Kai 
Brooklyn NY 

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Big Front Rack 34F

[Michael Morrissey]

I have a Nitto Big Front Rack for sale.

$175 pick up in NYC
$200 paypal friends and family shipped

I'd prefer local pickup.

Out of stock at Rivendell HQ:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r5.htm


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[RBW] Re: CSJ: Non-moose Boscos

[Michael Morrissey]

Looks great!  What fenders are you using?

m

On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 4:39:18 PM UTC-4, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>
> Pictured, the Clempaloosa, this morning at 12:30am, at 242 st./Van 
> Cortland Park, tired and waiting for the 1 train to take me homeward. Lots 
> of loose strings and wires, running a broken headlight held together with 
> zipties, powered by 4xAA's in the bag (working out my dyno-wheel needs). 
> And wrapped Ergon grips (very tricky, kinda crappy, extra grippy, supremely 
> comfortable). And last but not least, 2.35" Schwalbe Big Ones with fenders 
> (need to "rinko" the front to get adequate clearances)
> Glamour post to follow...
> -Kai
> Brooklyn NY
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 2:39:49 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts 
> wrote:
>>
>> Picture?  Jim D.Massachusetts
>>
>> On Friday, August 12, 2016 at 1:21:43 PM UTC-4, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>>
>>> I placed my order in January, being way too excited for a big bike 
>>> to wait for details (like specific sizing). I don't think the reach is that 
>>> much different between the Bosco and the Choco, it's the height that sets 
>>> them apart, and the slightly more useful forward section on the Choco bar. 
>>> The Boscos are great, I used them for a good while, but already owning a 
>>> brazed moose version I wasn't looking forward to having two around, so I'm 
>>> happy to have the non-moosed around as an option. 
>>> But the real reason for going Choco-moose??, it's so my mustard Clem can 
>>> properly impersonate a higher class Appaloosa from afar...
>>> -Kai 
>>> Brooklyn NY 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I think your current green bags will be fantastically attractive with a 
gray Chev.  Regarding your color choice, when choosing between orange and 
black for my Clementine, though I like orange bikes, I went with black, 
partially because there is a rather prominent Public mixte in town in 
bright orange, and the step-through style for a man seemed to call for 
something more understated. I was not overly concerned with visibility, as 
I almost always wear a hi-vis safety vest when commuting, and run lights in 
the daytime. I would have been equally happy with the Clem (now Chev) gray 
or Cheviut green, but neither was an option in the Clementine. 

It sounds like the Cheviot will be just the ticket for you! It's great you 
got to ride both bicycles a decent amount before making a decision. Being 
in New York, that was not a possibility at the time. I seriously considered 
the Chev, but several factors made the Clementine a clear choice for my 
needs. I already had a mixte style bike, and though I am sure the Cheviot 
would be "better" in some respects than my Rivved out Le Tour--well, I 
already had a mixte. Also I was on the cutting edge of both sizes. My 
philosophy on that is the bike will work just fine, your body will adjust. 
But while I could easily handle the 60cm Chev (my SH is 73-74), I did not 
particularly want a 700c bike with massive rubber and fenders for a city 
bike application. Plus, in that size, there is no way I would be mounting 
with any other motion than the leg swing from the back. (And as it is, I 
can barely maneuver my 52 Clem up the three flights of narrow stairs to my 
apartment!) Though I suspect I may have given up a tad in spriteliness of 
ride quality, I have other bicycles that have plenty of pep, and the 
Clementine over these past months has created an appreciation in me for 
other ride qualities. And, as I had figured it might, it has subtly 
transformed what I might call my riding demeanor. I have no doubt your 
Cheviot will do the same for you!



On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 6:43:51 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
>
> My guess is that a Clem Smith Jr. would serve my intended purpose just as 
> well as a Cheviot.  However, after riding both (a much more extended ride 
> on the Clem) I had a much bigger smile after riding the Chev - it simply 
> seemed to have a bit more life to it than the Clem. 
>
> I have an olive colored saddlesack and a green front bag that I would use 
> with this bike - is orange or grey likely to be my best bet with those 
> colors?
>
>
>

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