[RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

[Bruce Smitham]

Wow, finally a topic I want to discuss. I love titanium and especially my 
56cm Ritchey Ti Cross Breakaway. It's the best bike I've ever owned. Super 
light and not flexy (even with the couplers) plus I can travel with it. 
I've done light touring, serious single track in the Snoqualmie Pass 
recently and for rides up and down the coast of San Diego it really 
performs. I'm running the Schwalbe G-One's 38mm with plenty of clearance 
that work superb on and off road. Set up with Shimano XT 1 X 11 drivetrain 
(11/42 cassette) with Gevenalle brifters in friction mode- I can swing the 
entire range of the cassette effortlessly. Paul Mini Moto brakes, Salsa 
Cowchipper bars and Brooks Cambium C17 carved. I look back and really don't 
miss my Sam Hillborne, Atlantis or Roadeo. Lot's of that also has to do 
with the fit. I would love to try out a 54cm Hunq but I've got a Surly ECR 
with 3" tires, same drivetrain as above but with Jeff Jones Loop bars. Now 
I'm riding the heck out of both of these. 

See you on the road or trails,

Bruce in San Diego

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 7:15:08 PM UTC-7, Jack K wrote:
>
> If Rivendell offered a Ti bike would it have twin top tubes and 47cm 
> chainstays to distinguish it as a modern Riv design? Or are we talking 
> about something more like the old Riv Road or Rambouillet, or any other 
> classic-ish sport-touring-ish bike, but done in Ti? One guy who knows 
> classic bikes of all kinds (been building for 40+ years), but does a lot of 
> Ti now is Bill Davidson (see: http://davidsonbicycles.com/bicycles-ti/). 
> My understanding is Bill designs the Ti bikes and fabrication is done by 
> Max Kullaway of 333Fab. Ti Davidson's generally have an updated classic 
> aesthetic and many have longish chainstays, brazeons for fenders and racks, 
> extended headtubes for getting bars up to saddle height, clearance for 
> biggish road tires, chain & seat-stays that aren't overly manipulated and 
> understated paint (if any paint). Every Davidson is custom so you can get 
> whatever you want, but if you're looking for a sport-touring type Ti bike 
> with classic sensibilities then Davidson seems to know that kind of thing 
> as well as anyone and the frame fabrication is top notch. 
>
> In the interests of full disclosure, I am motivated to believe Davidson 
> builds a nice frame as I acquired a slightly used sport-touring-ish Ti 
> Davidson not too long ago. I'm in the process of remaking it, which so far 
> means more conventional wheels with many more spokes (WI hubs, Pacenti SL23 
> rims, 28/32 spokes), new seatpost, stem, saddle and tires. I snagged some 
> bars I like better too, but haven't installed them yet. Chainstays are 
> about 44cm, mid-reach sidepull brakes, internally routed Di2 cables (not 
> very Riv-ish!), accommodations for fenders and racks, extended head tube, 
> etc ...  The welds are at least as nice as the Spectrum or Seven I owned 
> previously. 
>
> Sorry for the less than flattering photos, but these are all I have on 
> hand. The second shows a Tubus Vega mounted, carrying Ortlieb Bikepacker 
> Plus panniers. Tires are 32mm Ribmo's with room to spare. The Zefal HP pump 
> fits easily behind the seat-tube -- though prolly not when fenders are 
> installed.
>
> Cheers and safe riding,
>
> -Jack K.
>
> Raleigh, NC
> 
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 11:51:02 AM UTC-4, Call Me Jay wrote:
>>
>> Who would build it? Hampsten Cycles? Discuss.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Correct Tap Pitch for 4mm & 5mm Threads

[Joe Bunik]

oh, ok I get it- cleaning your threads- that makes sense now.

Damn you beers!

On 9/1/16, Joe Bunik  wrote:
> M5x.8 is "standard" for 99% of bike applications - dropout eyelets,
> down tube shifter brazeons, etc. Not.sure why (or if in fact you
> should be doing so!) your tap doesn't play nice w/ your frame - but,
> careful Will Robinson!
>
> M5x1.0 is a very obscure ("French") threading- some Simplex
> retrofrictions used this.
>
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek CA
>
> On 9/1/16, John Hawrylak  wrote:
>> What is the correct thread pitch for the 4mm and 5mm taps for common
>> bicycle threads???
>>
>> I just want them to clean the threads, not do actual threading.
>>
>> I bought a 5mm tap with 0.8mm pitch (fine ).   It will not thread into
>> the
>> dropout eyelets. Is the treading a 1.0mm pitch (coarse)??  If so, I will
>> have to buy the 5mm x 1.0mmpitch.
>>
>> Also, bought a 4mm with 0.7mm pitch.  Is this the correct pitch for 4mm
>> threads??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] Correct Tap Pitch for 4mm & 5mm Threads

[Joe Bunik]

M5x.8 is "standard" for 99% of bike applications - dropout eyelets,
down tube shifter brazeons, etc. Not.sure why (or if in fact you
should be doing so!) your tap doesn't play nice w/ your frame - but,
careful Will Robinson!

M5x1.0 is a very obscure ("French") threading- some Simplex
retrofrictions used this.

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek CA

On 9/1/16, John Hawrylak  wrote:
> What is the correct thread pitch for the 4mm and 5mm taps for common
> bicycle threads???
>
> I just want them to clean the threads, not do actual threading.
>
> I bought a 5mm tap with 0.8mm pitch (fine ).   It will not thread into the
> dropout eyelets. Is the treading a 1.0mm pitch (coarse)??  If so, I will
> have to buy the 5mm x 1.0mmpitch.
>
> Also, bought a 4mm with 0.7mm pitch.  Is this the correct pitch for 4mm
> threads??
>
> TIA
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
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[RBW] WTB: 25.4mm Stem - Periscopa or tall dirt drop stem

[Mike K.]

Folks, I'm looking for a dirt drop stem for my 25.4mm On One midge bars. 
Trying to finalize my Schwinn Voyageur. I have Albatross bars on it now, 
but I miss the On One bars I used to ride on my last bike. The reason I 
don't have them now is that I didn't have a stem to get them high enough, 
and the stock stem from the Voyageur was itty bitty.

If you have one that you can part with, let me know.

Thanks!
Mike in ATX

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[RBW] Correct Tap Pitch for 4mm & 5mm Threads

[John Hawrylak]

What is the correct thread pitch for the 4mm and 5mm taps for common 
bicycle threads???

I just want them to clean the threads, not do actual threading.

I bought a 5mm tap with 0.8mm pitch (fine ).   It will not thread into the 
dropout eyelets. Is the treading a 1.0mm pitch (coarse)??  If so, I will 
have to buy the 5mm x 1.0mmpitch.

Also, bought a 4mm with 0.7mm pitch.  Is this the correct pitch for 4mm 
threads??

TIA

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Kellie]

Thanks Chris! Hope your Hilsen sells soon. What's the new project? I have 
to wait for that new frame but it'll give me time to squirrel away parts. 

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 6:51:01 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Way to go, Kellie!
>
> It has been wonderful to watch your persistence pay off.  I think you'll 
> enjoy the Atlantis.  Great news!
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: CHEVIOT

[Kellie]

Thanks René.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 4:27:00 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
>
> *$2300*. 50cm Cheviot, green in excellent condition with less than 500 
> miles. Built from a frame with Rivendell-like parts and some upgraded fancy 
> bits and additional parts. Wheels shod with Rock and Road tires which are 
> *wonderful* on street and off-road. Don't really want to let go of this 
> bike but I need the funds to buy an Atlantis. 
>
>
> Paul Racer centerpull brakes (black)
>
> Chrystal Fellow seat post
>
> Brooks Saddle
>
> Thin Gripster pedals
>
> Mark's rack: front with basket
>
> Pletcher rack: rear with TechLine light (battery)
>
> water bottle cage
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>  
> 
>
>
> *water bottle and Carradice bag not included
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Pondero]

Way to go, Kellie!

It has been wonderful to watch your persistence pay off.  I think you'll enjoy 
the Atlantis.  Great news!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

Nice!

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Re: [RBW] CHEVIOT

[René Sterental]

Thanks!

Congratulations on making the sale and ordering your new Atlantis!

On Thursday, September 1, 2016, Kellie Stapleton 
wrote:

> I’ll get to it this weekend.
>
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 5:14 PM, René Sterental  > wrote:
>
> Hi Kellie,
>
> Could I ask as a favor that you send me a photo of the rear brake
> including the cable stop on the top tube? I thought I couldn't use a rear
> Racer brake on my Betty, but you've opened my eyes. I just want to see how
> the cable yoke and cables look.
>
> Thank you!
>
> René
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Kellie  > wrote:
>
>>
>> *$2300*. 50cm Cheviot, green in excellent condition with less than 500
>> miles. Built from a frame with Rivendell-like parts and some upgraded fancy
>> bits and additional parts. Wheels shod with Rock and Road tires which are
>> *wonderful* on street and off-road. Don't really want to let go of this
>> bike but I need the funds to buy an Atlantis.
>>
>>
>> Paul Racer centerpull brakes (black)
>>
>> Chrystal Fellow seat post
>>
>> Brooks Saddle
>>
>> Thin Gripster pedals
>>
>> Mark's rack: front with basket
>>
>> Pletcher rack: rear with TechLine light (battery)
>>
>> water bottle cage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> *water bottle and Carradice bag not included
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 51 Atlantis

[René Sterental]

Congratulations!

On Thursday, September 1, 2016, Kellie  wrote:

> No longer looking. Ordered my Atlantis frame today! 
>
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>>
>> Prefer frame but *may* consider complete.
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 51 Atlantis

[Kellie]

No longer looking. Ordered my Atlantis frame today! 

On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Prefer frame but *may* consider complete.
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[RBW] Re: FS: CHEVIOT

[Kellie]

Cheviot *SOLD*!

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 4:27:00 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
>
> *$2300*. 50cm Cheviot, green in excellent condition with less than 500 
> miles. Built from a frame with Rivendell-like parts and some upgraded fancy 
> bits and additional parts. Wheels shod with Rock and Road tires which are 
> *wonderful* on street and off-road. Don't really want to let go of this 
> bike but I need the funds to buy an Atlantis. 
>
>
> Paul Racer centerpull brakes (black)
>
> Chrystal Fellow seat post
>
> Brooks Saddle
>
> Thin Gripster pedals
>
> Mark's rack: front with basket
>
> Pletcher rack: rear with TechLine light (battery)
>
> water bottle cage
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>  
> 
>
>
> *water bottle and Carradice bag not included
>
>

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Re: [RBW] CHEVIOT

[Kellie Stapleton]

I’ll get to it this weekend.
> On Sep 1, 2016, at 5:14 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kellie,
> 
> Could I ask as a favor that you send me a photo of the rear brake including 
> the cable stop on the top tube? I thought I couldn't use a rear Racer brake 
> on my Betty, but you've opened my eyes. I just want to see how the cable yoke 
> and cables look. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> René 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Kellie  > wrote:
> 
> $2300. 50cm Cheviot, green in excellent condition with less than 500 miles. 
> Built from a frame with Rivendell-like parts and some upgraded fancy bits and 
> additional parts. Wheels shod with Rock and Road tires which are wonderful on 
> street and off-road. Don't really want to let go of this bike but I need the 
> funds to buy an Atlantis. 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Racer centerpull brakes (black)
> 
> Chrystal Fellow seat post
> 
> Brooks Saddle
> 
> Thin Gripster pedals
> 
> Mark's rack: front with basket
> 
> Pletcher rack: rear with TechLine light (battery)
> 
> water bottle cage
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> *water bottle and Carradice bag not included
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: The Abandoned Lake Shore Line

[René Sterental]

Wow!!! Excellent!

On Thursday, September 1, 2016, Trenker  wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> David
>
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 11:47:29 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Spectacular adventure! I love it!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 9:02:26 AM UTC-6, Trenker wrote:
>>>
>>>  For the second half of the day I made my way slowly back to my home,
>>> one of those marches where you go slower and slower and take more and more
>>> breaks as you near your destination, but there were definite periods of fun
>>> and enjoyment as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: CHEVIOT

[René Sterental]

Hi Kellie,

Could I ask as a favor that you send me a photo of the rear brake including
the cable stop on the top tube? I thought I couldn't use a rear Racer brake
on my Betty, but you've opened my eyes. I just want to see how the cable
yoke and cables look.

Thank you!

René

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016, Kellie  wrote:

>
> *$2300*. 50cm Cheviot, green in excellent condition with less than 500
> miles. Built from a frame with Rivendell-like parts and some upgraded fancy
> bits and additional parts. Wheels shod with Rock and Road tires which are
> *wonderful* on street and off-road. Don't really want to let go of this
> bike but I need the funds to buy an Atlantis.
>
>
> Paul Racer centerpull brakes (black)
>
> Chrystal Fellow seat post
>
> Brooks Saddle
>
> Thin Gripster pedals
>
> Mark's rack: front with basket
>
> Pletcher rack: rear with TechLine light (battery)
>
> water bottle cage
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] What does "Presta" mean?

[René Sterental]

Press in Italian is lends, presto is soon, so you can imagine a group if
guys rising and one has a flat and one saying to the other... presta the
pump, presto!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!

On Thursday, September 1, 2016, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Maybe the guy who invented it has/had the last name "Presta"?
>
> Schrader definitely sounds like a last name. But I don't know about that
> one either.
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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[drew]

gotta be bluelug. they have more of a rivendell based internet presence 
than rivendell does. 



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> Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Frameset, Two Wheelsets, Bosco Bullmoose Bars

[Bill Lindsay]

Captain Conway,

I will hold these wheels for you through today, September 1, 2016.  After 
that I'm going to sell them to the next lister who said they want them. 
 Let me know if you want 'em!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 4:09:58 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Captain Conway,
>
> Does that mean you want them?  If so, let me know, because now customers 
> are lining up!  :-)
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 1:38:52 PM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Fair winds, 
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett 
>>
>> > On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > That is correct. The ultegra rear hub will take a shimano 10 speed 
>> cassette 
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[RBW] Re: What does "Presta" mean?

[Lungimsam]

Maybe the guy who invented it has/had the last name "Presta"?

Schrader definitely sounds like a last name. But I don't know about that 
one either.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires & Large Green Saddlesack

[Glen]

Updating, 

This morning the Saddlesack found a new home in Portland and I've sold one 
pair of the 650b Big Bens.

Here is what's left:

1 pair of 650b Big Bens - 50mm Active Line Kevlar Guard - $60 per 
pair shipped to CONUS

1 pari of 700c Big Bens - 50mm Performance Line RaceGuard Liteskin - $60 
per pair shipped to CONUS

1 pair of 700c Vittoria Randonneur Hypers - 38mm - $60 per pair shipped to 
CONUS


  Wider than I want on my Ram and narrower than I want on my Atlantis so 
they have to go. Mounted once on each bike and pedaled around the block.








On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 1:20:43 PM UTC-6, Glen wrote:
>
> I am cleaning out my garage and selling the following
>
> 1 large green saddlesack only used a handful of times and in like new 
> condition - $200 shipped to CONUS
>
>   This bag is HUGE, needs a support. More bag than I need so it has to go.
>
> New tires (Big Bens still have tags attached) 
>
>   I bought a big lot of tires off Craigslist during Outdoor Retailer and 
> after keeping what I want I'm passing the others along to list members.
>
> 2 pair of 650b Big Ben - 50mm Active Line Kevlar Guard - $60 per 
> pair shipped to CONUS
>
> 1 pari of 700c Big Ben - 50mm Performance Line RaceGuard Liteskin - $60 
> per pair shipped to CONUS
>
> 1 pari of 700c Vittoria Randonneur Hyper - 38mm - $60 per pair shipped to 
> CONUS
>
>
>   Wider than I want on my Ram and narrower than I want on my Atlantis so 
> they have to go. Mounted once on each bike and pedaled around the block.
>
>
> PayPal Friends and Family preferred or pay PayPal fees
>
>
> Discount for local pick up in Salt Lake City
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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm only guessing but my guess is that 58cm would be considered large

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Rivendell Romulus complete

[brianweee]

Thank you fellow Brian! Your brother seems like a cool guy! :) 

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:49:29 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Glad I was able to help facilitate. My brother picked up this sweet ride!~
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 12:30:40 PM UTC-4, brianweee wrote:
>>
>> SOLD. Thanks everyone! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 5:31:31 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh damnit all to hell. My size too. Nope nope nope I cant
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-4, brianweee wrote:

 Price drop!! $825 local OR buyer pays shipping via BikeFlights

 On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 3:55:33 PM UTC-7, brianweee wrote:
>
> Hi all, selling my 57cm Rivendell Romulus for  $900 local (SF Bay 
> area) or $1000 shipped.
>
> Link with more info on the bike: http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus
> /romflyer/01.html 
>
> I will be posting photos tomorrow morning when I can take photos of 
> it. I think the headset could be either adjusted or may need a new 
> headset. 
> The price reflects that. 
>
> List of components:
>
> Nitto noodle 44cm hbar
> Maroon cloth tape w/ twine finish
> Nitto technomic 110 mm stem
> Canecreek brake levers
> Shimano/ tecktro mid reach brakes
> Riv Silver down tube shifters
> Tiagra front der
> Dura ace rear der
> Silver Sram rival crank w/ sugino 50/36 chain rings
> GXP bb
> Kmc chain
> Shimano 9sd 11-30  cassette
> EA90 wheels
> Challenge strada Blanca 700x30c tires
> Thompson elite seat post
> Selle Italia SLR flow saddle
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[RBW] Re: Fantasyland Daydream: Ti "Riv"

[S. Greco]

Cherry Bicycles (John Cherry) or a Tournesol (Hampsten/Indy Fab) come to 
mind. I don't believe Hampsten is making Tournesols anymore. Haven't 
checked on Cherry availability or pricing in a long time. It seems like a 
tautology to say you could get what you want from a custom builder. As for 
Riv making a Ti frame it seems counter to their position in the world of 
cycles. I do like how Bruce Gordon, who primarily builds in steel, 
generally makes a sort-of concept car style bike once a year-ish using 
different materials and construction methods. Seeing how Riv is getting 
more experimental with construction (Clem) and in batch offerings (Rosco) 
It doesn't seem completely ridiculous. 

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Wally Estrella]

Here's hoping so, as I'll take a smaller 64 :)

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> Would a 68cm frame be considered "large"?
>
> Ryan "99.5 PBH" Hankinson
> West Michigan
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Racks

[Bob B]

Both racks are sold.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 3:04:19 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote:
>
> Not to hijack Bob's thread. But I also have a Nitto r14 rack that I can 
> sell for the same price. Contact me offlist.
>
> best,
> Franklyn
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 11:34:02 AM UTC-7, Bob B wrote:
>>
>> r14 is spoken for. Platrack is still available ($90 shipped)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-4, Bob B wrote:
>>>
>>> Used, all hardware included:
>>>
>>> Nitto r14 with tombstone (includes free Toplight rear dyno light): $100 
>>> shipped 
>>> Nitto Platrack: $90 shipped
>>>
>>>
>>> See attached images.
>>>
>>> Please reply off-list
>>>
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[RBW] Re: What does "Presta" mean?

[IanA]

>From the Latin verb Pressare?  Relating in this case to pressure.  In other 
words "Presta vavle" being synonymous with "pressure valve".  Only a guess, 
I really have no idea.

Ian A/Canada

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 11:50:38 AM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Almost 40 years ago I bought my first set of wheels with something called 
> "Presta Valves."  I always assumed that  it was Italian for press the pump 
> onto the stem, but now realize that might not be true.  In the last two 
> years I have replaced both my floor pump and a mini pump.  Both of these 
> don't allow me to presta dem on; now I have to screwda dem on.  OK, so the 
> little thingamabob gets pressed down to open the valve, but still I think 
> they should now be called screweda valves.
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: What does "Presta" mean?

[Garth]

  You are thinking in American Michael, it originated in France so like all 
cultural matters you'd need to look at it from a French perspective !  

I ran across a forum where someone wrote Zefal about it and their reply was 
: 
https://nycc.org/node/33518


Zefal sez...
>
> """We have no precise file concerning that. It is between 1880 et 1890.
> Sorry. In case you need more precise information, it would take us a lot of
> time.""
> "
>

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 1:50:38 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Almost 40 years ago I bought my first set of wheels with something called 
> "Presta Valves."  I always assumed that  it was Italian for press the pump 
> onto the stem, but now realize that might not be true.  In the last two 
> years I have replaced both my floor pump and a mini pump.  Both of these 
> don't allow me to presta dem on; now I have to screwda dem on.  OK, so the 
> little thingamabob gets pressed down to open the valve, but still I think 
> they should now be called screweda valves.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Abcyclehank]

Would a 68cm frame be considered "large"?

Ryan "99.5 PBH" Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: CS Lengths

[Irving]

I have a 60cm Cheviot and can confirm the 54cm chainstay length 
... makes 
getting out of doorways and onto public transit slightly tricky O_o

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:38:48 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> On a recent thread I posted that, having built up one of each, the only 
> difference between the Betty Foy & the Cheviot was the paint job and the 
> name.  Someone replied that the Cheviot had longer chain stays.  I have 
> finally gotten around to measuring all the bikes in our stable, including 
> my daughters new Cheviot.  Here's what I recorded, measure from the center 
> of the BB to the center of the drop out.
>
> Saluki - 445mm (this is a very early model) 63 CM, 650B wheels, 
> Ram - 445 ( Early Blue) 62CM
> Betty Foy - 450 (Demo, last one out the door) 55 CM
> Cheviot - 450 (last of the last Orange batch) 52CM
>
> And for good measure:
> 1984 Trek 620 60 CM 450
>
> Bilenky custom touring tandem - 460 & 26" wheels
>
> I haven't measured my old Marinoni stage racing frame, nor the SOMA Dbl 
> Xcross in the basement.
>
> Michael
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: CHEVIOT

[Kellie Stapleton]

66 cm
PBH=77 
Are you interested?

> On Sep 1, 2016, at 9:49 AM, stoker  wrote:
> 
> What is your saddle height (as pictured)?
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[RBW] What does "Presta" mean?

[Michael Hechmer]

Almost 40 years ago I bought my first set of wheels with something called 
"Presta Valves."  I always assumed that  it was Italian for press the pump 
onto the stem, but now realize that might not be true.  In the last two 
years I have replaced both my floor pump and a mini pump.  Both of these 
don't allow me to presta dem on; now I have to screwda dem on.  OK, so the 
little thingamabob gets pressed down to open the valve, but still I think 
they should now be called screweda valves.

Michael

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Rivendell Romulus complete

[Brian Campbell]

Glad I was able to help facilitate. My brother picked up this sweet ride!~

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 12:30:40 PM UTC-4, brianweee wrote:
>
> SOLD. Thanks everyone! 
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 5:31:31 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Oh damnit all to hell. My size too. Nope nope nope I cant
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-4, brianweee wrote:
>>>
>>> Price drop!! $825 local OR buyer pays shipping via BikeFlights
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 3:55:33 PM UTC-7, brianweee wrote:

 Hi all, selling my 57cm Rivendell Romulus for  $900 local (SF Bay area) 
 or $1000 shipped.

 Link with more info on the bike: http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus
 /romflyer/01.html 

 I will be posting photos tomorrow morning when I can take photos of it. 
 I think the headset could be either adjusted or may need a new headset. 
 The 
 price reflects that. 

 List of components:

 Nitto noodle 44cm hbar
 Maroon cloth tape w/ twine finish
 Nitto technomic 110 mm stem
 Canecreek brake levers
 Shimano/ tecktro mid reach brakes
 Riv Silver down tube shifters
 Tiagra front der
 Dura ace rear der
 Silver Sram rival crank w/ sugino 50/36 chain rings
 GXP bb
 Kmc chain
 Shimano 9sd 11-30  cassette
 EA90 wheels
 Challenge strada Blanca 700x30c tires
 Thompson elite seat post
 Selle Italia SLR flow saddle



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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake question...

[Garth]

FWIW, Rene's Shimano R600 levers are regular brake only levers , they 
are no different than any mtb or bar end lever in cable pull.   

Everyone is just guessing as to what the issue is and all that we can do 
without seeing it and feeling it in person. I assume his cabling to the 
rear is perfectly clear of all sense of drag, but that also is just an 
assumption. It's gotta be perfect first and foremost :) The easiest way to 
check is to disconnect the brake yoke and hold it in your left and actuate 
the lever with lever in right hand. It ought to be smooth as a hot knife 
through butter. If not the housing end needs some refining.  



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>
> Jeremy, I didn't read your post as a polemic, but rather as illuminating. 
>  My personal experience has been that some road levers, especially Shimano 
> SIS, pull too much cable to work effectively with cantis.  My 
> recommendation to the OP, before spending any money, call Paul's and talk 
> through the problem with them.  They are very customer oriented.  I would 
> still bet that the system needs a different set of levers, not a different 
> set of brakes.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:54:44 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>>
>> My post was not intended as a polemic, but rather simply to clarify some 
>> of the dynamics at play with cantilever brakes and point out that high 
>> mechanical advantage does not necessarily create the highest possible 
>> braking force.  High mechanical advantage brakes like v-brakes and discs 
>> (both mechanical and hydraulic) are great for mountain biking; I've used 
>> both on my off-road rigs.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:57:54 AM UTC-7, ian m wrote:
>>>
>>> What Jeremy says also misses the connection between low mechanical 
>>> advantage (necessitating more grip strength) and arm/hand fatigue. There's 
>>> a reason why systems only requiring one finger braking are highly prized 
>>> for off road riding, same would go for any situation in which a rider is 
>>> braking often or while fully loaded.
>>
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[RBW] CS Lengths

[Michael Hechmer]

On a recent thread I posted that, having built up one of each, the only 
difference between the Betty Foy & the Cheviot was the paint job and the 
name.  Someone replied that the Cheviot had longer chain stays.  I have 
finally gotten around to measuring all the bikes in our stable, including 
my daughters new Cheviot.  Here's what I recorded, measure from the center 
of the BB to the center of the drop out.

Saluki - 445mm (this is a very early model) 63 CM, 650B wheels, 
Ram - 445 ( Early Blue) 62CM
Betty Foy - 450 (Demo, last one out the door) 55 CM
Cheviot - 450 (last of the last Orange batch) 52CM

And for good measure:
1984 Trek 620 60 CM 450

Bilenky custom touring tandem - 460 & 26" wheels

I haven't measured my old Marinoni stage racing frame, nor the SOMA Dbl 
Xcross in the basement.

Michael

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[RBW] FS: CHEVIOT

[stoker]

What is your saddle height (as pictured)?

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[RBW] Re: Anyone riding the Indian Head 100 Century on Labor Day?

[Richard]

I did the ride many times when I lived in Maryland. Beautiful scenery with 
rolling hills and open farmland. I miss riding in S Maryland.

Have fun on your ride!

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 11:21:16 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

> In Indian Head, Maryland.
>
> http://ohbike.org/century/
>
> I hope to be there with my Bleriot or Rambouillet.
>
> This is my report from last year if you are curious what it is like: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rbw-owners-bunch/gJPWltCIzqQ/wOtLARmNAgAJ;context-place=forum/rbw-owners-bunch
>

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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake question...

[Michael Hechmer]

Jeremy, I didn't read your post as a polemic, but rather as illuminating. 
 My personal experience has been that some road levers, especially Shimano 
SIS, pull too much cable to work effectively with cantis.  My 
recommendation to the OP, before spending any money, call Paul's and talk 
through the problem with them.  They are very customer oriented.  I would 
still bet that the system needs a different set of levers, not a different 
set of brakes.



On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:54:44 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> My post was not intended as a polemic, but rather simply to clarify some 
> of the dynamics at play with cantilever brakes and point out that high 
> mechanical advantage does not necessarily create the highest possible 
> braking force.  High mechanical advantage brakes like v-brakes and discs 
> (both mechanical and hydraulic) are great for mountain biking; I've used 
> both on my off-road rigs.  
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:57:54 AM UTC-7, ian m wrote:
>>
>> What Jeremy says also misses the connection between low mechanical 
>> advantage (necessitating more grip strength) and arm/hand fatigue. There's 
>> a reason why systems only requiring one finger braking are highly prized 
>> for off road riding, same would go for any situation in which a rider is 
>> braking often or while fully loaded.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 57cm Rivendell Romulus complete

[brianweee]

SOLD. Thanks everyone! 

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 5:31:31 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Oh damnit all to hell. My size too. Nope nope nope I cant
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 5:36:47 PM UTC-4, brianweee wrote:
>>
>> Price drop!! $825 local OR buyer pays shipping via BikeFlights
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 3:55:33 PM UTC-7, brianweee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, selling my 57cm Rivendell Romulus for  $900 local (SF Bay area) 
>>> or $1000 shipped.
>>>
>>> Link with more info on the bike: http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus
>>> /romflyer/01.html 
>>>
>>> I will be posting photos tomorrow morning when I can take photos of it. 
>>> I think the headset could be either adjusted or may need a new headset. The 
>>> price reflects that. 
>>>
>>> List of components:
>>>
>>> Nitto noodle 44cm hbar
>>> Maroon cloth tape w/ twine finish
>>> Nitto technomic 110 mm stem
>>> Canecreek brake levers
>>> Shimano/ tecktro mid reach brakes
>>> Riv Silver down tube shifters
>>> Tiagra front der
>>> Dura ace rear der
>>> Silver Sram rival crank w/ sugino 50/36 chain rings
>>> GXP bb
>>> Kmc chain
>>> Shimano 9sd 11-30  cassette
>>> EA90 wheels
>>> Challenge strada Blanca 700x30c tires
>>> Thompson elite seat post
>>> Selle Italia SLR flow saddle
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[CMR]

I'd bet it's Blue Lug too, they are doing really cool things

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Abandoned Lake Shore Line

[Trenker]

Thanks. 

David


On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 11:47:29 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Spectacular adventure! I love it!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 9:02:26 AM UTC-6, Trenker wrote:
>>
>>  For the second half of the day I made my way slowly back to my home, one 
>> of those marches where you go slower and slower and take more and more 
>> breaks as you near your destination, but there were definite periods of fun 
>> and enjoyment as well.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Bill Lindsay]

Ryan asked how Lungimsam heard that Riv is making a batch of singlespeeds 
"for Japan".  

Those of us who are subscribed to receive update emails from Rivendell 
Bicycle Works received an email yesterday.  In that email, Grant said 
something about a batch of singlespeeds for Japan.  Ryan, if you want me to 
forward you the entire email, send me a PM and I'll be happy to do it. 
 Here's a quote from it:

We’re making a small run of single-speeders for Japan, and may get some 
overflow here. If you think we’ll have large sizes, you’re morosely 
mistaken.



On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:00:08 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> where'd you hear about this?
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Grant sent an e-mail last night/this morning.  



On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 10:00:08 AM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> where'd you hear about this?
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Abandoned Lake Shore Line

[Deacon Patrick]

Spectacular adventure! I love it!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 9:02:26 AM UTC-6, Trenker wrote:
>
>  For the second half of the day I made my way slowly back to my home, one 
> of those marches where you go slower and slower and take more and more 
> breaks as you near your destination, but there were definite periods of fun 
> and enjoyment as well.  
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] FS: Custom made frame pack

[Mario Rocchio]

Hello! I made this frame pack for my Rawland Sogn and I do not need it 
anymore as the bike is currently unrideable. Fits any bike with an inside 
TT measurement of 20" and inside headtube measurement of 3.5", about a 56cm 
frame. 

Materials are:
-VX51 Xpac side/top panel
-Ballistics nylon on the bottom
-Closed cell foam padding where it hits the headtube and downtube
-YKK water resistant zipper
-Milspec hook and loop straps
-Shock cord lace-up on the TT

Asking $120, let me know if you're interested! 





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[RBW] Ride Report: The Abandoned Lake Shore Line

[Trenker]

The first picture doesn’t show that behind me is a 200-foot sandy cliff. I 
had been having a nice time in SWO, did some fishing in the Nith river and 
was in the middle of a morning ride along Lake Erie when I came to a 
barrier with a sign, “Road Closed”, and a path beyond it that looked like 
an opportunity to follow what had once been a road. I couldn’t tell how 
long it had been abandoned. At first the going was pleasant, riding on a 
faint path through knee-high weeds, here and there signs saying danger, 
etc. then I came to the reason the highway had been abandoned: a huge 
desolation where the lakeside had caved in, no way to go down the cliff, so 
I had to follow the desecration around the edge of the cliff and hope that 
there was some passable trail on the other side, or go back and retrace my 
steps. I chose to push on, and soon found myself in a jungle of chest-high 
vines. I had to carry the bike on my shoulder, at one point I realized I 
was crossing a split-rail fence which was somewhere beneath my feet while I 
waded through the vines, sometimes coming to a complete stop and having to 
disentangle myself. I emerged at the edge of a cornfield, which I could 
follow where it skirted close to the edge of the cliff. The corn was over 
my head, providing a nice cover for my passage, and there were some jimson 
weeds growing at the edge.  When I got to the far side of the defile I had 
to pass through the jungle again, at one point my bike was secured fast and 
I toppled forward but ended up suspended a few feet above the ground. My 
chain was caught in an ancient branch. I managed to free it with no damage 
except for a snapped zip tie on the front basket.  I made it through the 
jungle and then had to walk between an impenetrable forest and a tobacco 
field, finally coming out in the ludicrous situation of walking down a 
farmer’s driveway which had a gate at the end that I had to lift the bike 
over, and a sign that said “no trespassing” pointing the opposite way from 
which I had come. 


I had made it back to the road, and soon found a beautiful secluded beach 
where I could strip down and have a swim, however it could have been easily 
reached by the usual road without the jungle exertions, a road that also 
featured a campground with a sign that said “bikers welcome” which did not 
mean bicyclists. Through this exploration the Atlantis comported itself 
admirably, although I had been carrying it much of the way, in other words 
it had been riding me instead of me riding it. For the second half of the 
day I made my way slowly back to my home, one of those marches where you go 
slower and slower and take more and more breaks as you near your 
destination, but there were definite periods of fun and enjoyment as well.  






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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Ryan Fleming]

where'd you hear about this?

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?

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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake question...

[Jeremy Till]

My post was not intended as a polemic, but rather simply to clarify some of 
the dynamics at play with cantilever brakes and point out that high 
mechanical advantage does not necessarily create the highest possible 
braking force.  High mechanical advantage brakes like v-brakes and discs 
(both mechanical and hydraulic) are great for mountain biking; I've used 
both on my off-road rigs.  

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:57:54 AM UTC-7, ian m wrote:
>
> What Jeremy says also misses the connection between low mechanical 
> advantage (necessitating more grip strength) and arm/hand fatigue. There's 
> a reason why systems only requiring one finger braking are highly prized 
> for off road riding, same would go for any situation in which a rider is 
> braking often or while fully loaded.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Deacon Patrick]

That Back-a-Bike bottom buckle isn't weight bearing and, as Doug points 
out, prevents flapping. Flapping and clapping panniers may not be an issue 
for you, so you could either go without connecting the bottom buckle (at 
least it's a sewn on buckle on my lassie's bags) or you can clip it round 
any part of the rack/frame that doesn't interfere with the chain. I often 
just secure my panniers at the top of the rack for grocery runs, and that 
includes some jouncy and bouncy dirt, so you'll be fine just anchoring the 
top of the bags. Also, you can get in and out of the panniers with a loaded 
SaddleSack, it's just a bit of work.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 9:06:44 PM UTC-6, LeahFoy wrote:
>
>
> I'll take a closer look at the rack tomorrow, but I think I'm stuck. If I 
> lower the bag, the clip on bottom that secures the bag to the rack becomes 
> too low. It sits lower than the rack and there is nothing for it to grab 
> onto. The little backpack gets one Backabike.The huge backpack will never 
> fit in the other Backabike. It has to go in the basket or rear rack, I 
> think. The Chromebook will probably go in the other Backabike bag when he 
> gets it next week. I guess I need another bag for ME . 
>
> Leah, who feels every pleasure center in her brain light up over bags

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Wally Estrella]

Blue Lug possibly...?



On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 9:21:16 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
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> Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?

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[RBW] Re: RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[s...@austin.utexas.edu]

I'd like to know more too. Especially because Grant seemed to allude to an 
offering of smaller sizes. Always dream of acquiring a 52cm Quickbeam. 
Maybe this mystery single speed could substitute?

Sean
ATX

On Thursday, September 1, 2016 at 8:21:16 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

> Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?

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[RBW] RBW Single speeds for Japan?

[Lungimsam]

Wonder how that came about and who will be selling them? Alex's cycle?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

[Takashi]

Leah, I've been enjoying reading your great story. Thanks for sharing!

About Backabike Bags:
I think there are loops on your bags through which you can run straps.
You can secure the bottom of your bags to the rack with John's Irish Straps 
which Riv sells.
(ANY strap will work for that matter, but Irish Straps are best-looking, 
right?)
Attached picture is of my Hunqapillar with Hub Area Bags on front, smaller 
version of Backabike Bags, secured with Irish Straps.

Good luck.
I'm looking forward to reading more of your stories.

Takshi





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