[RBW] Roadeo Sizing Help

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Grant is The Man. But here is another data point. I am 6ft with an 89cm PBH. 
Grant chose a 61.5cm Road standard for me. And I ride a 62cm Legolas and a 60cm 
Quickbeam (with some dirt riding intended for the Q). I wish the Q was 62 too 
but it's fine.

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[RBW] The American (aka MUSA) List

[sameness]

Girl sent me this. It's a cool resource, oddly heavy on bikes and bike-y 
stuff:

http://www.acontinuouslean.com/the-american-list/

I like buying American when I can. I think some of you do, too.*

Happy All-The-Days,

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

*Kindly steer any disputes of provenance, learned discourse on global 
economics, or political anything whatsoever to one of the seventy trillion 
other threads on the internet, with my sincere thanks!




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[RBW] Mix 'n match gearing

[RonaTD]

I found on the 'net some interesting (in a nerdy, arithmetic sort of way) info 
on shifter cable pull, derailer actuation ratios, and cog spacing. Naturally, I 
loaded it all into a spreadsheet for fun. After looking at many different 
permutations, I came upon one that seemed fairly useful. If you have a nice 
SunTour rear derailer and you'd really like to use it with more modern, indexed 
shifting, it works perfectly with a Shimano 9-speed shifter and a Shimano/SRAM 
8-speed cassette. I just tried it out on my Riv ATB and, sure enough, the 
spacing is exactly right. Since I'm a big fan of Shimano 9-speed bar-end 
shifters, and my ATB has a nice XC Pro rear derailer, it's a very happy 
coincidence for me.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA - wicked cold 'n snowy here at the moment

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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Robert Barr]

Deacon Patrick  - there are degrees of confusion. When I fail to recognize
that my sheep-wearing friend would never be looking at a pile hat I need to
slow down a wee bit. Also known as the challenge of taking a look at the
list while working on something else. My best to both Patricks. Bob

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> No worries, Bob. I do that sometimes too. Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick of the highlands who wears a sheep on his head when it gets really
> cold
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
>>
>> Patrick, I confused my Patricks
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Ramble

[Robert Barr]

Brynnar - Good to see your name! It has been too long since I have seen you
on the Tow Path. We all got caught by the weather. I did an interesting 180
in the middle of the road - not much bite in the Marathon Supreme...

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 6:29 PM, ctifusion  wrote:

> Thanks for the tire comment. I got caught in Indy this year with early
> winter weather and no winter tires. I ride my 26inch Surly LHT in the
> winter here and the Compass Rat Trap Pass do not handle icy roads well. I'm
> going to get a set of the RRs.
>
> Under 20 I go with a quality snowboarding helmet. Don't even need a hat
> under until close to 0. Dorky, but also adds some safety when riding in the
> early dark evenings.
>
> Bob! Let's have a coffee sometime.
>
> Brynnar
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[RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[Don Compton]

A beautiful pure Rivendell. I love my Roadeo, but I could sure enjoy a 
Rosco.
Cheers, Don C.

On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 3:37:22 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] What are you hauling?

[J Imler]

Both trailers can swing independently. My son (3) and neighbor kid (3) say it's 
too tight in the Trek only, so we improvise and roll on. It works well 
actually. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[stonehog]

Bill, I rode a friend's 25" Jones Plus on singletrack, and it felt fine, but 
larger than I needed. I'm 5'11" with a 76cm SH, and would definitely go for the 
24". Fun bike. Also have a Hunqa. Different for sure!  Jones is more dirt 
oriented, but you strangely sit straight up on it. It feels like you are skiing 
through the woods. Way different than any MTB geometry I've ever encountered 
(not saying much). I liked it, but could climb better on my hard tail Kona ti 
bike. I think the Jones would make a killer backcountry bikepacker. I think the 
Hunqa is more versatile, however. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: What are you hauling?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/19/2016 07:51 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
Yes, Steve. There is a ferry over to Newburgh just to the right, and 
The Sloop Club, started by Pete Seeger.


I rode the old Beacon Newburgh Ferry back in the 1950s and was a member 
of the Sloop Club in the 1970s.  We turned the old Ferry Diner into the 
club house.  I was there when we installed the Clivus Multrum.  North of 
the ferry dock was the City Dump.  We (the Sloop Club) turned it into a 
park.


Farmer's Market has been down here last few years. Also down here now 
is a natural park developed by Scenic Hudson, and a dirt trail that 
runs along the Hudson and adjacent to the old Fishkill RR line that 
goes to Denning's Point.


On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

Is that the Beacon waterfront?


On 12/19/2016 06:55 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

This picture was taken in the spring, soon he'll be too big for
this arrangement, which is why I picked up a tandem. But the Clem
is a tractor that can haul just about anything.

The key is how you Pack It Up! 





On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 8:51:40 PM UTC-5, Tony
DeFilippo wrote:

I feel like there was a thread for this a while back but
maybe I'm thinking of a pickup truck related forum so
what did you haul today?!?

My Saluki made easy work of a short ride w/ 15lbs of dog
food, a dozen eggs up front and 4 1 liter diet cokes in the
sackville (best rear bag ever!).





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[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

[Ryan Thompson]

Dave mentioned they might have a Silver crank available but it may also not 
happen in time.  I was also thinking about standard Sugino triple cranks 
but this is our first tandem and I've done zero research on gear options.

We also chose orange which I was second guessing since I already have an 
Orange Sam Hillborne, Cheviot, and road bike.  Oh well.

Ryan,
Arlington, VA

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 1:55:33 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> Alex, 
>
> I'll also go with the Silver if that's an option, triple for sure, the 
> lows are necessary. 
>
> Some folks go nuts on tandem large chainring size -- 54 or 56 is not too 
> hard to spot at a larger tandem rally, but for me that's not needed, 
> especially on a bike like the HHH. Even with a 48 we'll still be going mid 
> 20's mph before spinning out, and that's not likely to happen for long 
> unless we're flying downhill. With the HHH I'm looking for more usable 
> range, so will likely top out at 48 max. If you're a masher or grinder or 
> live on a steep long hill YMMV.   :) 
>
> What color did you choose? We went with the brick orange. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>
>> They are TBD still, rumor is there may be a Silver crankset option...but 
>> that's only rumor.  If that's the case I'll jump on it.  If not, I may go 
>> with Sugino's with bare arms or go nuts and get Herse tandem cranks. 
>>  Either of those options have room for chainrings a la carte, so I'm 
>> curious what experienced tandem riders default to for an "all rounder". My 
>> guess is a triple but I'm most interested in how big people go for the big 
>> chainring.
>
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[RBW] Re: Front rack for Appaloosa fork mounts

[RichS]

I have wondered about this too. I figured a custom rack would be required. 
Happy to see the solutions to Joe's question. 
Thank you everyone!

Regards,
Richard 

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 7:02:41 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about putting a front rack on Joe Blue and would like to use 
> those nifty braze-ons on top of the fork. What racks fit on them?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA. 
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[RBW] Re: I need help. I have become a Riv enabler.

[Daniel Betancourt]

I forgot to mention that Chase (the owner of the Wheelhouse bike shop) 
along with everyone else I interacted with were great to work with.  

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 5:16:38 PM UTC-5, Daniel Betancourt wrote:
>
> Well I'm that guy that ordered the frame. To be quite exact, I went ahead 
> and had it built out for me and am waiting for them to ship it out. I'll 
> make sure to post a pic once it arrives but I don't expect it will arrive 
> til next week as I'm in Central Florida. I can't wait!!
>
> Dan
> On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 5:36:09 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:
>
>> A buddy texts me and says that he was in Costa Mesa on business. He's 
>> been thinking about a new bike for a whiIe. He presently rides an older 
>> Giant. I Googled Riv bikes in LA.. He goes downtown to The Wheelhouse, a 
>> Riv dealer, and rides a demo Sam. He calls and tells me  it rides like a 
>> dream. He's a big guy and they had a 62cm black & cream double top tube Sam 
>> frame hanging on the wall.. I told him that's likely the only one on the 
>> planet available. The frame is now heading to Florida. I feel so bad. :-)
>>
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Deacon Patrick]

No worries, Bob. I do that sometimes too. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick of the highlands who wears a sheep on his head when it gets really 
cold

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
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> Patrick, I confused my Patricks
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[RBW] Re: Winter Ramble

[ctifusion]

Thanks for the tire comment. I got caught in Indy this year with early winter 
weather and no winter tires. I ride my 26inch Surly LHT in the winter here and 
the Compass Rat Trap Pass do not handle icy roads well. I'm going to get a set 
of the RRs.

Under 20 I go with a quality snowboarding helmet. Don't even need a hat under 
until close to 0. Dorky, but also adds some safety when riding in the early 
dark evenings. 

Bob! Let's have a coffee sometime.

Brynnar

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[RBW] Re: Black and Cream Color Scheme

[lum gim fong]

A single color with no cream head tube or other touches is a "Sam 
Stealthborne". 

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[RBW] Re: Winter Ramble

[lum gim fong]

I rode in chilly freeze Maryland today and it wasn't pleasant. Road salt 
powder everywhere.

But more fun than taking the car!! 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Docena Swift bag and B17 Special saddle

[David Stein]

Yes! sorry. I just looked it up and then I still typed it wrong. It is the
Select.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Brooks should have named it something else 'cause everybody mixes them up.
> The saddle you're selling is a Select, not Special, correct? I own one and
> agree they're very good places to sit.
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[RBW] FS: Docena Swift bag and B17 Special saddle

[Joe Bernard]

Brooks should have named it something else 'cause everybody mixes them up. The 
saddle you're selling is a Select, not Special, correct? I own one and agree 
they're very good places to sit. 

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[RBW] FS: Docena Swift bag and B17 Special saddle

[dstein]

I have a camo Docena bag I picked up from Ocean Air Cycles this summer and 
is like new, used on 2 short rides. I prefer the basket and shopsack and 
just don't generally find I have that much stuff to carry. $285 new plus 
shipping and wait time. $225 shipped?

Also a B17 Special saddle I bought for my Riv and used for about 1.5 years 
on weekly 10-20 mile rides. Has a nice honey color to it now. Looks and 
feels barely broken in if at all. Can send some pictures if interested. 
$190 new on amazon, though looks like Brooks doesn't carry this any more. 
$120 shipped?

Local pickup in the bay area.



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Re: [RBW] Re: What are you hauling?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, Steve. There is a ferry over to Newburgh just to the right, and The 
Sloop Club, started by Pete Seeger. Farmer's Market has been down here last 
few years. Also down here now is a natural park developed by Scenic Hudson, 
and a dirt trail that runs along the Hudson and adjacent to the old 
Fishkill RR line that goes to Denning's Point.

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Is that the Beacon waterfront?
>
> On 12/19/2016 06:55 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
> This picture was taken in the spring, soon he'll be too big for this 
> arrangement, which is why I picked up a tandem. But the Clem is a tractor 
> that can haul just about anything. 
>
> The key is how you Pack It Up! 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 8:51:40 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: 
>>
>> I feel like there was a thread for this a while back but maybe I'm 
>> thinking of a pickup truck related forum so what did you haul today?!? 
>>
>> My Saluki made easy work of a short ride w/ 15lbs of dog food, a dozen 
>> eggs up front and 4 1 liter diet cokes in the sackville (best rear bag 
>> ever!).
>>
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Sam Frame Spacing

[Phil]

Another original Sam owner here. Something you might consider if you have a 
frame builder nearby is to have your frame put on a jig and have the rear 
alignment checked/adjusted. That's the beauty of a steel frame.

Phil, running 42s and fenders

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 3:42:13 PM UTC-7, Timothy Hurley wrote:
>
> It's a 58. I was bummed I missed the double top tube.

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[RBW] Re: I need help. I have become a Riv enabler.

[dougP]

If it gets there before Christmas, you'll know you've been good this year.  

dougP

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 2:16:38 PM UTC-8, Daniel Betancourt wrote:
>
> Well I'm that guy that ordered the frame. To be quite exact, I went ahead 
> and had it built out for me and am waiting for them to ship it out. I'll 
> make sure to post a pic once it arrives but I don't expect it will arrive 
> til next week as I'm in Central Florida. I can't wait!!
>
> Dan
> On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 5:36:09 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:
>
>> A buddy texts me and says that he was in Costa Mesa on business. He's 
>> been thinking about a new bike for a whiIe. He presently rides an older 
>> Giant. I Googled Riv bikes in LA.. He goes downtown to The Wheelhouse, a 
>> Riv dealer, and rides a demo Sam. He calls and tells me  it rides like a 
>> dream. He's a big guy and they had a 62cm black & cream double top tube Sam 
>> frame hanging on the wall.. I told him that's likely the only one on the 
>> planet available. The frame is now heading to Florida. I feel so bad. :-)
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What are you hauling?

[Steve Palincsar]

Is that the Beacon waterfront?


On 12/19/2016 06:55 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
This picture was taken in the spring, soon he'll be too big for this 
arrangement, which is why I picked up a tandem. But the Clem is a 
tractor that can haul just about anything.


The key is how you Pack It Up! 





On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 8:51:40 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo 
wrote:


I feel like there was a thread for this a while back but maybe I'm
thinking of a pickup truck related forum so what did you haul
today?!?

My Saluki made easy work of a short ride w/ 15lbs of dog food, a
dozen eggs up front and 4 1 liter diet cokes in the sackville
(best rear bag ever!).





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Re: [RBW] Jones and Hunq

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Hi Daniel, 

Thanks!  Seems like you guys had an amazing trip there.  Thanks for sharing 
the info.  I'm currently researching my options to take my 5 yr old son 
around on my upcoming Appaloosa.  I'm leaning toward Bobike Classic Junior. 
 I used iBert on my old mountain bike until he was about 3.

Cheers,

-Ash






On Sunday, 18 December 2016 09:52:50 UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Dear Ash,
>
> I use a Yepp Mini for the kid and a Pass and Stow with Swift INdustries 
> and Porcelain Rocket baggage - as seen here 
>  in the 
> aforementioned CA trip last year. There are other photos in that album of 
> the Hunq setup. 
>
> Interestingly, on a high trail bike like a Rivendell, the combination of 
> load behind *and* in front of the steering axis works really well both at 
> low and high speed. Without the toddler, the front load seen in the above 
> photos is harder to manage - certainly doable, but not as smooth as on my 
> low trail machines. 
>
> Best,
> Daniel
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 10:30:17 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> >>  I visited the area last Spring with my Hunqapillar, and it was great 
>> fun to ride it fully loaded with a toddler on the front on the singletrack 
>> around Mt. Tam. 
>>
>>
>> What's your arrangement for the toddler?  Something like the iBert 
>> mounted on the top tube?
>>
>> Your family trip style is quite inspiring.  
>>
>> -Ash
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2016, Daniel Jackson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Geeter,
>>>
>>> I have a Plus and a Hunq. I love both machines.
>>>
>>> The Jones is a far more capable machine overall on a variety of terrain. 
>>> Rider placement, positioning and responsiveness place it in a different 
>>> category than the Hunqapillar. Despite its extraordinary wheelbase and 
>>> extremely large wheels and tires, the ride is anything but cumbersome. I 
>>> can climb far better on the Jones than the Hunq, make the bike slide 
>>> without touching brakes, yet track on technical singetrack and always get 
>>> it to go where I'd like. All this with a relatively relaxed position that 
>>> can be pulled into a tuck on the Jones' bars when needed. Match this with 
>>> large rotors up front on a super stiff wide based fork, and you get 
>>> stopping power like I haven't experienced on any other machine. The Hunq, 
>>> too, offers a supremely comfortable riding position, but it doesn't climb 
>>> nearly as well, and low speed handling suffers relative to the Jones. 
>>>
>>> So when considering off road riding, I take the Jones every time. I 
>>> think it important to note that Grant designed the Hunq in the California 
>>> hills. I visited the area last Spring with my Hunqapillar, and it was great 
>>> fun to ride it fully loaded with a toddler on the front on the singletrack 
>>> around Mt. Tam. The smooth trails in the hills of California are a far cry 
>>> from the wet, rooted, deep woods of Northern Vermont that I call home. 
>>> Riding the Hunq at home offroad is a chore. 
>>>
>>> For me in Vermont, the Hunq is primarily a dirt road tourer for my 2 
>>> year old son and I on our bimonthly family 4 day tours. I carry 25-30 lbs. 
>>> of gear and the kid so that my wife can enjoy her ride by our side. These 
>>> trips follow the dirt roads through quaint little towns around our home 
>>> where we ride through cow fields, stop at breweries, make coffee, and sleep 
>>> outside. The lugs of the Hunq shine here, the twine just fits, and the 
>>> beautiful green blends with the surrounding Green Mountains. The Hunq 
>>> descends these windy roads with aplomb. Solid and stable; never a hiccup. I 
>>> get a sense that Grant had these rides in mind when he designed the Hunq. 
>>> And I know that Jeff had VTs more hardcore rooted trails, steeps, and jumps 
>>> in mind when he designed the plus. 
>>>
>>> If one had to choose one or the other, be sure to consider key 
>>> differences in component choices (discs vs. canti, eccentric bottom 
>>> bracket, thru axles, boost spacing, etc.) as well as riding intention. 
>>>
>>> Hope this helps. Happy to answer more specific questions about each bike 
>>> if you have them.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Daniel in Vermont's Great Northeast Kingdom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 3:00:43 PM UTC-5, Geeter wrote:

 Just curious if anyone on the board has a Jones 29er or Plus and a 
 Hunq?  Overlap aside, just wondering thoughts and comparisons between the 
 two.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[iamkeith]

I have a regular 29 Jones spaceframe, and can't comment on the Plus other 
than to extrapolate (Jeff intended the two bikes  - 24"  Plus is equivalent 
to the 23" 29 - to encourage/accommodate the same fit and riding position). 
  I'm 6'-2" with proportionally long torso / short legs.

Regarding Bill's questions about fit:

As Eric said, the original production 29 bike was designed to fit Jeff 
himself, who is 6'-0" tall.   An inch or so either way, accounting for 
unique body proportions, is a pretty easy fit process.   For those beyond 
that - particularly at the extreme ends of the fit range, it is most often 
a fairly intensive process to get things dialed in.   Though Jeff has a 
pretty good handle on it and recommends a good starting point, anecdotal 
evidence will tell you that people spend a lot of energy and a lot of time 
on this.   Experimenting with layback or straight seatposts, different stem 
lengths, more or fewer stem spacers, different handlebars if the Loop 
doesn't jive and, as dstein said, a bottom bracket that gives you 1/2" of 
fore/aft or up/down fine tuning and effectively changes the frame size. 
 And then you can dial in the steering to accommodate your final weighting 
balance, by playing with head tube shims.


I have it set up now where I can, in a few minutes, swap in a different 
seatpost/saddle and stem to fit my 5'5" wife reasonably well.  If she has 
her druthers, this is the bike she will choose when we go mountain biking, 
so I'm excited about the small Plus as a possibility for her.  (it is a 
spaceframe design, by the way, which makes it even better.)  


However while the bike *does* work well for people of different sizes, 
what nobody ever really says is *that they each experience it in entirely 
different ways!*  It's basically a completely different bike for each 
person.  For people under about 5'-10" or so, you often hear them describe 
how they feel centered and ride "in the bike."   For those over 6'-1" like 
me, nothing could be further from accurate.  In my case, a big seatpost 
extension combined with a shallow angle means that I basically sit directly 
above the rear axle - not "in" the bike at all.  And it really doesn't work 
to fight this, either, because of the relatively short top tube and close 
cockpit.   Even with the slack angle, I had to use even more setback than I 
was accustomed to. 


For me and for how I use the bike - as a true mountain/trail bike - I 
really like the fact that my chainstays are effectively shorter.  Wheelies, 
jumps, bunny hops, steep descents, tight turns are what it's about. So, 
while the comfort and riding position and low center of gravity are very 
akin to a Rivendell, the rest of its personality is extremely different.


So, as to the OP's question of whether there is room for both a Jones and a 
Hunq:  

I say "heck, yeah!" The Hunqapillar is and has been since it was released, 
STILL my dream bike.Variety is the spice of life, so you just need to 
set them up differently.   The issue for me though, and why I've never 
gotten a Hunq., is that for the way I want to set up and use *that* bike, I 
really expect it to fit perfect WITHOUT making accommodations.  More of my 
all-day, everyday, touring, town, short road rides, light trail, shopping, 
picnic, camping, loaded touring, keep-it-for-the-rest-of-my-life bike.   So 
I want it in MY size. 


I always tell people that if a Riv fits you well, buy it!  Fit trumps 
everything and is not always as automatic as you'd hope.


(I admittedly might have a problem though, because I want a 25" Plus, too) 



On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 2:28:21 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Eric reported: 
>
> "I'm 6'3", 36" PBH, and fit quite well on a 25" Jones Plus (now "Jones 
> Large"). It's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, maybe THE most 
> comfortable."
>
> Thanks for responding.  It's very good that you are comfortable on your 
> Jones Plus, but I was asking more about fit than comfort.  Specifically, my 
> main question was not "who fits on a Jones".  My question was "how does 
> fitting work?"  Do you "get fit" by taking numerous measurements, like some 
> "bike fitters" do professionally?  Do you just jump on a bike and ride it 
> and buy one if you like it?  Do you talk on the phone to somebody at Jones 
> and they say "just buy size X?"  The thing I'm gathering is that the Jones 
> is almost like a BMX bike for grown ups.  It's so fun and killer and 
> comfortable that it transcends size and fit.  Just go ride it and have 
> fun.  Nobody "fit" a BMX bike.  You just rode it and smiled.  Is that a 
> reasonable assessment?  Or is there something particular about the build 
> process where you dial in the fit with the steertube and seat post, and so 
> forth that allows you to get a precise "fit" even though there are only two 
> sizes?  The vibe I'm getting is the bike kind of transcends fit.  Just go 
> ride it, tweak things if you feel like it, and 

[RBW] FS: 700c Velocity Dyad Front Wheel, Sugino Alpina Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto M12 Rack

[David Banzer]

Adding the following:

Schwalbe Furious Fred Tires - 29 x 2.0 - low miles - $60 shipped for a pair

Tektro Long Reach Brakes - 73mm reach ones, black, recessed, slots filed for 
more reach, no brake pads - $25 shipped 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Frame Spacing

[Timothy Hurley]

It's a 58. I was bummed I missed the double top tube.

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[RBW] Re: Winter Ramble

[Deacon Patrick]

Today's ride was positively balmy at 32˚F. A good ol' boy bundled to the 
hilt (more than I work at -5˚F) coming toward me in his pickup unrolls his 
window and hollers "It's way too cold for that!" I doubt he heard me, but I 
hollered back, "Good thing you're in a truck then!" waving and grinning the 
whole time.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 9:43:43 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Minus five, with the winter clothing details finally coming together in 
> the little details. What a blast! 
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/winter-ramble 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: I need help. I have become a Riv enabler.

[Daniel Betancourt]

Well I'm that guy that ordered the frame. To be quite exact, I went ahead 
and had it built out for me and am waiting for them to ship it out. I'll 
make sure to post a pic once it arrives but I don't expect it will arrive 
til next week as I'm in Central Florida. I can't wait!!

Dan
On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 5:36:09 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote:

> A buddy texts me and says that he was in Costa Mesa on business. He's been 
> thinking about a new bike for a whiIe. He presently rides an older 
> Giant. I Googled Riv bikes in LA.. He goes downtown to The Wheelhouse, a 
> Riv dealer, and rides a demo Sam. He calls and tells me  it rides like a 
> dream. He's a big guy and they had a 62cm black & cream double top tube Sam 
> frame hanging on the wall.. I told him that's likely the only one on the 
> planet available. The frame is now heading to Florida. I feel so bad. :-)
>

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[RBW] Re: What are you hauling?

[Deacon Patrick]

Elvin baking goods. Over the creek and through the woods, back to me hoose 
I go. The mammoth kens the way through powder slush and decay, back to me 
hoose I go!

With abandon,
Patrick




On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 6:51:40 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> I feel like there was a thread for this a while back but maybe I'm 
> thinking of a pickup truck related forum so what did you haul today?!?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Bill Lindsay]

Splendid.  I think I get it.  Since I'm smack dab in the middle of the 
range of heights for a medium, I'll take a wild guess that Jeff would put 
me on a medium.  ;-)

It's a fantastically cool bike, from my perspective.  If I buy one someday, 
I'll be sure to ride one first and/or talk to Jeff.

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 1:46:58 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I talked to Jeff about it. He asked for my PBH and height. He knew what to 
> put me on. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne frameset 55cm (extras optional)

[Forrest]

Price drops on these options ... #1: now $900; #2: now $975 

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:47:18 PM UTC-6, Forrest Meyer wrote:
>
> This is a companion post to my earlier one for the complete bike (FS Sam 
> Hillborne 55cm Albastache bars). BTW, dropping price for that to $1,800 
> now. 
>
> This is a blue-gray frameset purchased new from RBW May 2015. Fewer than 
> 1,000 miles on it. No dings or dents; never crashed. Photos here:  
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskHqvejU
>
> Option #1 -- For $950 [now $900!] (buyer pays actual shipping):  frame, 
> fork, headset, bottom bracket
>
> Option #2 -- For $1025 [Now $975!] (buyer pays actual shipping): what you 
> get above for $950 plus will include SKS fenders with flaps, two-legged 
> Pletscher kickstand, and Tektro R559 brakes (2). 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Sam Hillborne 55cm Albastache bars

[Forrest]

Price drop and some changes. This bike now has 46 cm Noodle drop bars on it 
with Silver bar-end shifters (switched out from Albastache). Now priced at 
$1750 (down from $1900), and now includes pedals, Selle-Anatomica saddle, 
and fenders. Tires on it are now Schwalbe Marathon Cross 38's. 

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 12:52:01 PM UTC-6, Forrest Meyer wrote:
>
> For sale 55 cm Sam Hillborne in the blue/gray color. Albastache bar 
> set-up. Purchased new directly from RBW in May 2015. Very clean. No dings, 
> dents, chips, never crashed. Under 1,000 miles on it. 
>
> Pretty much the stock build from RBW. I put on new Panaracer Pasela Tour 
> Guard 700x37 tires (light, supple, cushy, tough). I switched out the Silver 
> shifters for Shimano Dura Ace bar ends, but I will sell this with the 
> Silvers. 
>
> $1,900. Buyer pays actual shipping cost. I will pay for packing by local 
> bike shop. 
>
> Photos here:  https://flic.kr/s/aHskHqvejU 
>
> Will include Pletscher two-legged kickstand, and fenders.
>
> Not included: Racks, pedals, saddle, water bottle cages. 
>
> Thanks for looking. Questions direct to me rather than to the group. 
>
> -- Forrest Meyer (Iowa City)
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Daniel Jackson]

Bill,

I talked to Jeff about it. He asked for my PBH and height. He knew what to put 
me on. 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Frame Spacing

[Belopsky]

yep looks like mine-what size is yours?

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 3:39:28 PM UTC-5, Timothy Hurley wrote:
>
> Belopsky, 
>I think it's from '09, but I'm not sure. Whenever they first sold them, 
> I pre ordered one. Here's a (crappy) pic: 
>
> n Monday, December 19, 2016 at 12:22:43 PM UTC-5, Belopsky wrote: 
> > It's real easy to check dish..I made a tool out of cardboard and a small 
> ruler. 
> > 
> > 
> > have you tried loosening/re-centering? 
> > 
> > 
> > PS: I also have a green Sam w cantis and people ask me what year that is 
> - what is 'first year' and a photo? Thanks!! 
> > 
> > On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 11:52:08 AM UTC-5, Timothy Hurley 
> wrote:Hi all, 
> > 
> > I have a 1st year Sam (canti brakes, green paint) and I recently 
> noticed that the rear wheel isn't centered between the chain stays (down by 
> the kickstand plate). The tire (38mm Marathon) is almost touching the right 
> chain stay. Everything is centered between the seat stays up by the brake 
> bridge. I can't figure out why this is. Could the wheel be dished in a 
> weird way? Have I bent my frame over years of overbiking? Any suggestions 
> or ideas would be appreciated. Thank you! 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 700c Velocity Dyad Front Wheel, Sugino Alpina Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto M12 Rack

[David Banzer]

Winter purging and cleaning up the garage. 
I'm sure I have a few more things that I'll add to this list when I get 
home this evening...
Shipping is included in prices, unless noted.
Regular Paypal payment is fine - I'll send an invoice as it's the easiest 
way to get shipping info and print a shipping label.
Local pickup is fine too, though I won't be available for a couple weeks to 
meet up unless you want to head out to River Grove in the evenings this 
week.
Feel free to ask any questions.
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

1. Velocity Dyad Front Wheel - 700c, silver, bought this as part of a 
wheelset from a list member, just needed the rear as I had a dyno front 
wheel ready to go, lightly used, Shimano LX hub, 36h, no skewer - $90 plus 
shipping

2. Velocity Dyad Rim - used rim, 40h, life left in it or use it for a 
display or whatnot - $10 plus shipping

3. Brooks B17 Saddle - honey brown, swapped this out for a GB saddle that 
I'm sticking with - broken in - $70 shipped

4.Sugino Alpina Cranks - silver, 110mm, regular spider layout meaning no 
hidden bolt, 172.5mm, lightly used - $60 shipped or add 49/34 or 46/34 
Willow rings for $15 more

5. Nitto M12 Front Rack - used, nice condition, with double-ended canti 
bolts, M6 light mounts on both sides - $55 shipped

Also have bags and chainrings available - items listed at 
treetop.bigcartel.com - just let me know and they'll ship free with an 
above item.


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Re: [RBW] Jones and Hunq

[David Stein]

I second to call Jeff.

>From what I remember they only had one size for a long time, the 24", which
was meant for a wide variety of riders. The more you raise the seat the
longer the effective top tube becomes, and from there it's a matter of
saddle position and stem length to dial it in. I think some taller riders
pushed for the 25". And this is the first I've heard of the 23".

I talked w/ Jeff and based off what he told me he directed me to a certain
stem length and cut the steerer. Haven't messed with it since I unboxed it.

On Bill's point of road vs. mtn biking I think the same fit principles
apply for the Jones either way. It's not a drop bar road bike. With road
bikes and drop bars there is a lot more fine tuning to get comfortable as
you're leaned over in an aero position with a lot of weight on the
handlebars and things you want to account for for speed. There's a lot more
versatility w/ the Jones w/ the ec bottom bracket, loop bars, etc. As I'm
not the best at explaining things, call Jeff ;)

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Robert Keal  wrote:

> Bill asked how folks are fit for Jones bikes.
>
> The website says riders 5'7" to 6'2" fit the 24" medium. It also says in
> many places that buyers are encouraged to call Jeff to talk specifics. So
> in the end, I think Jeff would say, "Call me to discuss fit." Guessing
> wouldn't be a great move considering a bad guess costs a pretty penny.
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Jones and Hunq

[Robert Keal]

Bill asked how folks are fit for Jones bikes.

The website says riders 5'7" to 6'2" fit the 24" medium. It also says in
many places that buyers are encouraged to call Jeff to talk specifics. So
in the end, I think Jeff would say, "Call me to discuss fit." Guessing
wouldn't be a great move considering a bad guess costs a pretty penny.

Bob K. in Baltimore


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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Bill Lindsay]

Eric explained how the Jones designs accommodates a range of riders in a 
single size, and Geeter pointed out that there's a Small (23") to go with 
the Medium (24") and the Large (25").  

That's all very good, but still not what I was asking.  I was asking how 
one chooses a size or how Jones recommends a size.  How does it work? 
 Since nobody has answered that, I'm guessing that it's probably exactly 
like I bought my mountain bike.  I looked at some numbers on the Niner 
webpage and I guessed.  I built it up and I changed the things I felt like 
I needed to change.  That's pretty much how all mountain bikes work, and 
it's totally fine.  Nobody "gets fit" on a mountain bike.  Guess, buy, and 
ride.  Tweak if needed, and guess again if you got it wrong.  The more 
guesses you've made the more likely your next guess will be a good one.  

The reason I asked how it worked is that Jones bikes are being lauded as 
surprisingly good road bikes.  Road bike fitting is more prescriptive, and 
road riding involves sitting there in basically the same position on the 
bike for hours on end, so it kind of needs to fit to be comfortable. 
 Mountain biking is much more of a dynamic activity.  You are moving around 
with the bike in completely different ways, and so 'fit' is not really a 
concrete defined thing.  If the Jones is a bike that people use for long 
road rides, I wondered if the fitting was prescriptive and precise like 
road bike fitting, or was more of a 'guess and tweak' process, like 
mountain bikes.  Sounds like it is more the latter, which is fine.   

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 2:00:55 PM UTC-8, Geeter wrote:
>
> Bill, Jones now has a 23" spaceframe plus for riders too short for the 24" 
> plus.

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[RBW] Re: Sam Frame Spacing

[Timothy Hurley]

Bill, thank you for taking the time to give such detailed advice. What you said 
makes sense. I measured everything, flipped the wheel and measured again. 
Everything was the same both times. So I've established the wheel (it's true) 
is dished corrrctly and thus not the problem.

The wheel was correctly seated in the dropouts both times. Everything was 
centered at the seat stays both times. And both times the wheel was almost 
touching the right chain stay yet had plenty of room on the left side.

The only thing I can figure is that there's an issue with the frame. Everything 
looks straight and I've never crashed it anyhow. This bike has searved me very 
well over the years and rides great so it's really only a problem if I wanted 
to put 40mm or up tires on it. I was happy with 35's until I discovered this 
group last year! Haha

Thank you again for helping me obsess about my bike.

-T.J.

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[RBW] Re: Front rack for Appaloosa fork mounts

[Joe Bernard]

Hmm. I wasn't planning on such a big front rack, but the Pass and Stow is built 
just down the highway from me. I like it! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[Tim Tetrault]

Super sweet, Bill. Looks nimble. 

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 10:25:29 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Brian corrected me that Colin is not in Portland, but instead is in that 
> little-known suburb of Portland...Seattle.  :-P
>
> I went on a true maiden voyage this morning.  On my daily drop run through 
> the cemetery in El Cerrito, I stopped at my favorite crypt and took a shot. 
>  While I LOVE the rocket logo and I also love the R05C0 8U883 spelling, I 
> do not think I will vocally refer to this bike as "Rosco Bubbe".  I'm 
> thinking I might vocally refer to this bike as "McCarthy"  
>
>
> 
>
> McCarthy rides like the fine road bike it is, and with the splendid 700x35 
> Bon Jon Pass tires, it's a screamer going downhill.  I think I'm going to 
> completely love the fast front end of a traditional road bike (73 HTA and 
> 45mm offset) paired with longish chainstays.  All the good, none of the 
> bad.  
>
>
> Portaging the bike up the BART steps in El Cerrito, and back down in Union 
> City, the liftatube was perfect.  Like giggling perfect.  Like every time I 
> ever carried a bike up or down stairs in my life, I was doing it wrong.  
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
>
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:52:35 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:
>>
>> Love the bike, Bill!  One quick note on Colin (Stevens) - he works out of 
>> Seattle's Georgetown neighborhood.  Here's the website if anyone wants to 
>> look into his racks/trailers:  http://www.haulincolin.com/index.html  
>>
>> I have his rack on my Hunqapillar, and can vouch for it being a great 
>> piece of hauling gear!
>>
>> Brian Hanson
>> Seattle, WA
>> www.stonehog.com
>>
>> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:43:06 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Ted asked about the front rack on my new build
>>>
>>> There's a rack guy in Portland who goes by the business name Haulin 
>>> Colin. A list member had Colin build him this rack custom, but then he 
>>> decided he was going in another direction.  I had owned a Haulin Colin full 
>>> porteur rack and was super happy with it, so I was pleased to pick this up. 
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay 
>>> El Cerrito Ca
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Poster post

[R Shannon]

Yes! Good idea!

Best,
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Charlie R  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the Just Ride Poster should be available for purchase!!!
> 
> Charlie 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 12:06:01 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>> Finally had a chance to frame a poster I picked up from a book shop near 
>> Chicago when Grant was on his book tour. They were going to pitch it, and I 
>> was happy to save it from that fate. I thought it would be cool to see what 
>> posters you have hanging around. Post your posters here!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Clayton.sf]

There was some discussion on MTBR in regards to truss vs unicrown. Believe 
consensus was that there is slightly better breaking performance on the 
Truss due to less flex but that the unicrown is more than adequate.

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:11:32 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> For those who have ridden Jones frames with the truss and unicrown 
> forks... is there a significant handling difference?
>
> From what I gather the truss is about giving braking stiffness at lighter 
> weight than a traditional fork but I wonder if it also contributes to the 
> secret sauce that makes most Jones riders rave about their bike. The 
> unicrown fork interests me mainly because I'm very used to a front basket 
> for my commuting bag and going to a bike that didnt allow for that option 
> gives me some pause.
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Re: [RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/19/2016 02:32 PM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
I went with the sageI kinda lust after the sage Hillbornes, 
whereas mine is blue.  This is my redemption ;-)


I just came back from coffee with friends of mine who are avid tandem 
riders (4! tandems in their line up).  They confirmed what you 
mentioned, having several bikes with a 54 large chainring.


54 used to come standard with Santanas.  54x12 is a very nice tandem 
high gear.   What anyone with a half-bike needs with a gear like that 
god only knows.




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[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

I went with the sageI kinda lust after the sage Hillbornes, whereas 
mine is blue.  This is my redemption ;-)

I just came back from coffee with friends of mine who are avid tandem 
riders (4! tandems in their line up).  They confirmed what you mentioned, 
having several bikes with a 54 large chainring.  That being said, they are 
both speed demons and have pegged their computers at the 65mph max several 
times!!!  I know that the HUB isn't meant to be a rocket and I wouldn't 
characterize my riding as fast by any stretch of the imagination but 
the speed thing has me a little giddy with anticipation.  

Right now I'm kinda leaning toward 52-44-26 or maybe 52-42-26on my 
all-rounder's a 42-28 double seem to suit me perfect (essentially the 42 
for most everything on-road and the 28 for bail-out and trails.  My 
assumption is the 52 will act as a "fun factor" ring for downhills.

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 1:55:33 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> Alex, 
>
> I'll also go with the Silver if that's an option, triple for sure, the 
> lows are necessary. 
>
> Some folks go nuts on tandem large chainring size -- 54 or 56 is not too 
> hard to spot at a larger tandem rally, but for me that's not needed, 
> especially on a bike like the HHH. Even with a 48 we'll still be going mid 
> 20's mph before spinning out, and that's not likely to happen for long 
> unless we're flying downhill. With the HHH I'm looking for more usable 
> range, so will likely top out at 48 max. If you're a masher or grinder or 
> live on a steep long hill YMMV.   :) 
>
> What color did you choose? We went with the brick orange. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>
>> They are TBD still, rumor is there may be a Silver crankset option...but 
>> that's only rumor.  If that's the case I'll jump on it.  If not, I may go 
>> with Sugino's with bare arms or go nuts and get Herse tandem cranks. 
>>  Either of those options have room for chainrings a la carte, so I'm 
>> curious what experienced tandem riders default to for an "all rounder". My 
>> guess is a triple but I'm most interested in how big people go for the big 
>> chainring.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Poster post

[Ryan Fleming]

Why not? I'm sure there'd be some takers !

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 10:52:27 AM UTC-6, Charlie R wrote:
>
>
> I think the Just Ride Poster should be available for 
> purchase!!!
>
> Charlie 
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 12:06:01 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>>
>> Finally had a chance to frame a poster I picked up from a book shop near 
>> Chicago when Grant was on his book tour. They were going to pitch it, and I 
>> was happy to save it from that fate. I thought it would be cool to see what 
>> posters you have hanging around. Post your posters here!
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

[Julian Westerhout]

Alex, 

I'll also go with the Silver if that's an option, triple for sure, the lows 
are necessary. 

Some folks go nuts on tandem large chainring size -- 54 or 56 is not too 
hard to spot at a larger tandem rally, but for me that's not needed, 
especially on a bike like the HHH. Even with a 48 we'll still be going mid 
20's mph before spinning out, and that's not likely to happen for long 
unless we're flying downhill. With the HHH I'm looking for more usable 
range, so will likely top out at 48 max. If you're a masher or grinder or 
live on a steep long hill YMMV.   :) 

What color did you choose? We went with the brick orange. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 





On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> They are TBD still, rumor is there may be a Silver crankset option...but 
> that's only rumor.  If that's the case I'll jump on it.  If not, I may go 
> with Sugino's with bare arms or go nuts and get Herse tandem cranks. 
>  Either of those options have room for chainrings a la carte, so I'm 
> curious what experienced tandem riders default to for an "all rounder". My 
> guess is a triple but I'm most interested in how big people go for the big 
> chainring.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day! R05C0 8U883

[Bill Lindsay]

Brian corrected me that Colin is not in Portland, but instead is in that 
little-known suburb of Portland...Seattle.  :-P

I went on a true maiden voyage this morning.  On my daily drop run through 
the cemetery in El Cerrito, I stopped at my favorite crypt and took a shot. 
 While I LOVE the rocket logo and I also love the R05C0 8U883 spelling, I 
do not think I will vocally refer to this bike as "Rosco Bubbe".  I'm 
thinking I might vocally refer to this bike as "McCarthy"  



McCarthy rides like the fine road bike it is, and with the splendid 700x35 
Bon Jon Pass tires, it's a screamer going downhill.  I think I'm going to 
completely love the fast front end of a traditional road bike (73 HTA and 
45mm offset) paired with longish chainstays.  All the good, none of the 
bad.  


Portaging the bike up the BART steps in El Cerrito, and back down in Union 
City, the liftatube was perfect.  Like giggling perfect.  Like every time I 
ever carried a bike up or down stairs in my life, I was doing it wrong.  


Bill Lindsay

El Cerrito, CA


On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 1:52:35 PM UTC-8, stonehog wrote:
>
> Love the bike, Bill!  One quick note on Colin (Stevens) - he works out of 
> Seattle's Georgetown neighborhood.  Here's the website if anyone wants to 
> look into his racks/trailers:  http://www.haulincolin.com/index.html  
>
> I have his rack on my Hunqapillar, and can vouch for it being a great 
> piece of hauling gear!
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> www.stonehog.com
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:43:06 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Ted asked about the front rack on my new build
>>
>> There's a rack guy in Portland who goes by the business name Haulin 
>> Colin. A list member had Colin build him this rack custom, but then he 
>> decided he was going in another direction.  I had owned a Haulin Colin full 
>> porteur rack and was super happy with it, so I was pleased to pick this up. 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay 
>> El Cerrito Ca
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Frame Spacing

[Bill Lindsay]

Timothy

Step 0: your rear wheel is true 
Step 1: with the bike on the ground, open the QR so you are sure the frame 
is fully dropped down on the vertical dropouts.  Close the QR
Step 2: measure clearances at all four points:  both sides at the 
chainstays and both sides at the seatstays, write those down
Step 3: remove the rear wheel and put it back in backwards, making super 
sure that the wheel is fully in the dropouts again.  close the QR
Step 4: make the same four measurements

If you don't have a good way to do measurements, fine, eyeball it.  

IF your wheel is exactly centered relative to the seatstays both times, 
then the wheel is dished correctly.  IF the wheel is centered exactly 
relative to the seatstays both times and is offcenter towards the right 
chainstay both times, then your rear end has an imperfection of some kind.  

IF your wheel position changed both at the chainstays and at the seatstays 
when you flipped it around, then your wheel is not perfectly dished. 
 Consider taking care of that and repeating.  The amount it moved is double 
the amount your wheel is out of dish.  For example, if your wheel is 2mm 
out of dish, it'll "move" 4mm when you flip it.  

IF your wheel changed in position at the chainstays but not at the 
seatstays, or vice versa then you are not being careful enough when you are 
getting the wheel seated in the dropouts.  Repeat until you are getting 
consistent results.  

Let me know if you need help walking through this.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:52:08 AM UTC-8, Timothy Hurley wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
> I have a 1st year Sam (canti brakes, green paint) and I recently 
> noticed that the rear wheel isn't centered between the chain stays (down by 
> the kickstand plate). The tire (38mm Marathon) is almost touching the right 
> chain stay. Everything is centered between the seat stays up by the brake 
> bridge. I can't figure out why this is. Could the wheel be dished in a 
> weird way? Have I bent my frame over years of overbiking? Any suggestions 
> or ideas would be appreciated. Thank you!

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis crankset question

[Bill Lindsay]

I have not, but I will be running a modern super-compact outboard BB XTR 
mountain crankset (44/30) on my upcoming Atlantis.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:52:13 AM UTC-8, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Have any of you guys used a modern compact (50t/34t) outboard bb cranks on 
> your Atlantis? Just wondering if it will clear

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Sizing Help

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm 5'10" with a 86cm PBH 75.5cm saddle height.  If I were to buy a Roadeo 
it would definitely be a 59, and I would most likely run a 10cm stem 
extension.  Grant is right that if you want your Roadeo to look kind of 
like a 1980s racing bike or a snazzy steel club bike, then a 59 for your 
height and PBH could definitely achieve that.  If you want to run your bars 
up near your saddle height, or are looking for more of that 1950s British 
"fist full of post" kind of look, then I imagine you'd be more at home on a 
61.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 8:52:08 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As I've mentioned before on the board, I'm interested in a Roadeo. That 
> 59cm posted on the site has caught my eye, but I'm wondering if it's a bit 
> on the small size. My PBH is 88.5. Are there any Roadeo riders on this 
> board with a similar PBH? If so, what size frame do you have?
>
> Grant kindly replied to my email and said I'd probably be fine, and that 
> the fit would be more traditionally "road-ish.". Obviously, I trust him, 
> but I've made bad sizing decisions before and would love a second opinion.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo Sizing Help

[Matt B.]

You'd have a lot of seat post showing on a 59 but it really depends on how 
high you'd want to run your bars relative to saddle (although this is not 
so much of an issue nowadays with tallux stems/long quills).  Personally I 
would go 61 with that pbh, even if the 61 is not immediately available.  
It's worth waiting a few months for the right size.

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 11:52:08 AM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As I've mentioned before on the board, I'm interested in a Roadeo. That 
> 59cm posted on the site has caught my eye, but I'm wondering if it's a bit 
> on the small size. My PBH is 88.5. Are there any Roadeo riders on this 
> board with a similar PBH? If so, what size frame do you have?
>
> Grant kindly replied to my email and said I'd probably be fine, and that 
> the fit would be more traditionally "road-ish.". Obviously, I trust him, 
> but I've made bad sizing decisions before and would love a second opinion.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Frame Spacing

[Belopsky]

It's real easy to check dish..I made a tool out of cardboard and a small 
ruler.

have you tried loosening/re-centering?

PS: I also have a green Sam w cantis and people ask me what year that is - 
what is 'first year' and a photo? Thanks!!

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 11:52:08 AM UTC-5, Timothy Hurley wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
> I have a 1st year Sam (canti brakes, green paint) and I recently 
> noticed that the rear wheel isn't centered between the chain stays (down by 
> the kickstand plate). The tire (38mm Marathon) is almost touching the right 
> chain stay. Everything is centered between the seat stays up by the brake 
> bridge. I can't figure out why this is. Could the wheel be dished in a 
> weird way? Have I bent my frame over years of overbiking? Any suggestions 
> or ideas would be appreciated. Thank you!

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! More thought went into my gear choices that I can to even try to 
remember. Now, I don't really think about them, though I've obviously kept 
my notes (thank you Evernote!) which helps when folks ask me gearing 
questions. However, the experience in riding is No thought goes into 
gearing because I only have two gear choices and I'm either going up or 
down. Until you experience the freedom of that, it is really hard to 
understand. Like you, I was puzzled and intrigued from the outside, until I 
was on the inside. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> Sometimes my eyes glaze over when I hear singlespeed/fixed gear riders 
> talking about riding usually around the part they talk about being freed 
> from thinking so much:p.   But I keep on checking out that quickbeam for 
> sale in my area... 
>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Patrick Moore]

Me, I think constantly about my ss gearing choices. *Constantly!*

Patrick "good syntax is good thinking" Moore, in eye rolling ABQ, NM.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Daniel D.  wrote:

> Sometimes my eyes glaze over when I hear singlespeed/fixed gear riders
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> from thinking so much:p.   But I keep on checking out that quickbeam for
> sale in my area...
>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

[Daniel D.]

Sometimes my eyes glaze over when I hear singlespeed/fixed gear riders 
talking about riding usually around the part they talk about being freed 
from thinking so much:p.   But I keep on checking out that quickbeam for 
sale in my area... 

>
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[RBW] Atlantis crankset question

[mike gasparino]

Have any of you guys used a modern compact (50t/34t) outboard bb cranks on your 
Atlantis? Just wondering if it will clear

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo Sizing Help

[Tim Gavin]

I'm 6'1" with an 89 pbh.  I have a 59 Road Standard and I've had a 59
Roadeo, and both fit perfectly.  The top tube is just the right length.  I
use stems with 8-10 cm extension with drop bars.



On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:50 PM, John G.  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As I've mentioned before on the board, I'm interested in a Roadeo. That
> 59cm posted on the site has caught my eye, but I'm wondering if it's a bit
> on the small size. My PBH is 88.5. Are there any Roadeo riders on this
> board with a similar PBH? If so, what size frame do you have?
>
> Grant kindly replied to my email and said I'd probably be fine, and that
> the fit would be more traditionally "road-ish.". Obviously, I trust him,
> but I've made bad sizing decisions before and would love a second opinion.
>
> Thanks,
> John
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[RBW] Roadeo Sizing Help

[John G.]

Hi all,

As I've mentioned before on the board, I'm interested in a Roadeo. That 
59cm posted on the site has caught my eye, but I'm wondering if it's a bit 
on the small size. My PBH is 88.5. Are there any Roadeo riders on this 
board with a similar PBH? If so, what size frame do you have?

Grant kindly replied to my email and said I'd probably be fine, and that 
the fit would be more traditionally "road-ish.". Obviously, I trust him, 
but I've made bad sizing decisions before and would love a second opinion.

Thanks,
John

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[RBW] Sam Frame Spacing

[Timothy Hurley]

Hi all,
I have a 1st year Sam (canti brakes, green paint) and I recently noticed 
that the rear wheel isn't centered between the chain stays (down by the 
kickstand plate). The tire (38mm Marathon) is almost touching the right chain 
stay. Everything is centered between the seat stays up by the brake bridge. I 
can't figure out why this is. Could the wheel be dished in a weird way? Have I 
bent my frame over years of overbiking? Any suggestions or ideas would be 
appreciated. Thank you!

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[RBW] Re: Poster post

[Charlie R]

I think the Just Ride Poster should be available for purchase!!!

Charlie 



On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 12:06:01 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
> Finally had a chance to frame a poster I picked up from a book shop near 
> Chicago when Grant was on his book tour. They were going to pitch it, and I 
> was happy to save it from that fate. I thought it would be cool to see what 
> posters you have hanging around. Post your posters here!
>
>
> 
>
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[RBW] Re: Front rack for Appaloosa fork mounts

[Les Lammers]

A Nitto m18 may be worth a look. 
https://www.google.com/search?q=nitto+m18=1920=1043=isch=u=univ=X=2=0ahUKEwi4lMqj14DRAhVBMSYKHYxvDu0QsAQIKA
 I 
have one coming and will use a Wald basket with it.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 11:49:59 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'm liking the Mark's Rack idea. I have a small Riv Trunksack that 
> would fit it, or maybe I'll put my small Wald basket on. Thanks for the 
> pic, it's very helpful. 

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[RBW] Jones and Hunq

[Tony DeFilippo]

For those who have ridden Jones frames with the truss and unicrown forks... is 
there a significant handling difference?

>From what I gather the truss is about giving braking stiffness at lighter 
>weight than a traditional fork but I wonder if it also contributes to the 
>secret sauce that makes most Jones riders rave about their bike. The unicrown 
>fork interests me mainly because I'm very used to a front basket for my 
>commuting bag and going to a bike that didnt allow for that option gives me 
>some pause.

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[RBW] Re: Black and Cream Color Scheme

[Ryan Fleming]

That is a beauty...I actually briefly considered a Mariposa before ordering 
my ( still elusive) mixte from Riv but I believe the senior Mike Barry is 
no longer building frames and they are spendy enough that I'm not sure I 
want to pay that money for a builder I don't know much about) ...I think 
the wine colours go beautifully with cream...I prefer the darker colours 
with the cream accents generally...contrast is sharper I think. So I like 
Dave's black and cream Sam.

I doalso  like the sage Sam, but I think I'd go for the single colour

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 11:38:32 AM UTC-6, M D Smith wrote:
>
> Andrew asked:
>
> "... can anyone point to good examples of super dark frames (black, or 
> deepest green, say) that had both cream head tubes AND cream seat tubes?" 
>
> To which I reply:
>
> I've always liked this bike, back from my days on the iBOB list.  It's 
> maroon, so maybe not as dark as you are thinking, but a real stunner:
>
> 
>
> Cherrs- Mike in Bklyn, NY
>
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Re: [RBW] What are you hauling?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Tony. I've since removed the fenders (it's not a bike I would
choose for rainy days, fenders or not), and I've added a new model Cyo and
Sanyo bb dynamo (I do use it for short trips to the store).

The M-bar is just tolerable for rides of up to 10 miles or so; my  left
hand starts hurting about about mile 2, but it's tolerable for up to 10
miles non-stop. The M bar is certainly better than the bullhorns it
replaced.

Question: someone on this list, or p'raps it was the boblist, offered to
sell me a stem extension meant particularly for the Dahon. If that person
reads this, will he please contact me?

I think that the M bar would be more comfortable if it were a little
further from the saddle.

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> J - that is quite a train you have going there!  I've wondered what it
> would be like to put my tandem with a kid trailer in tow.  We're the two
> trailers locked together from a swing perspective or could both articulate?
>
> Patrick that Dahon is sharp looking!  Love the woody fenders and clean
> moustache bars in particular.
>
> Tony
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[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

They are TBD still, rumor is there may be a Silver crankset option...but that's 
only rumor.  If that's the case I'll jump on it.  If not, I may go with 
Sugino's with bare arms or go nuts and get Herse tandem cranks.  Either of 
those options have room for chainrings a la carte, so I'm curious what 
experienced tandem riders default to for an "all rounder". My guess is a triple 
but I'm most interested in how big people go for the big chainring.

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[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

[Julian Westerhout]

Alex, 

Are the options from Riv set yet? If so, perhaps I've missed it. What are 
you considering? Something else? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 9:24:24 PM UTC-6, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
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> Any other listers want to chime in on drivetrain choices for their 
> upcoming HubbaHubbah tandem?
>
> I'm on the fence with my chainring choices...
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[RBW] Re: Front rack for Appaloosa fork mounts

[David Banzer]

I have all the parts, haven't installed yet, but I'm planning on putting a 
Pass and Stow porteur rack back on my Clem using Nitto nuts/bolts/struts to 
attach to the top of fork crown mounts.
David
River Grove, IL

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 6:02:41 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about putting a front rack on Joe Blue and would like to use 
> those nifty braze-ons on top of the fork. What racks fit on them?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA. 
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[RBW] Jones and Hunq

[Max S]

Andrew, 

I've been interested in a Jones for awhile... let me know if you're interested 
in a road bike for Jones trade. I've 57-59 cm road frames/bikes. 

- Max

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[RBW] FS: 650b Wheelset, ChocoMoose Handlebars, HiRiser Stem, & Some other various Handlebars

[Max S]

Dibs on the Jitensha bar! :-) 

Sent you an email, Adam. 

- Max 

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Re: [RBW] What are you hauling?

[Tony DeFilippo]

J - that is quite a train you have going there!  I've wondered what it would be 
like to put my tandem with a kid trailer in tow.  We're the two trailers locked 
together from a swing perspective or could both articulate? 

Patrick that Dahon is sharp looking!  Love the woody fenders and clean 
moustache bars in particular. 

Tony 

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