[RBW] Re: Kogswell P vs. Rambouillet

[eflayer]

The truth be told:

http://yojimg.net/bike/kogswell/kogswell_docs/Model%20P/Model%20P.pdf

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 6:22:41 AM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Saw an ebay listing for a 62cm Kogswell P and the ad copy stated it was an 
> exact copy of the Rambouillet geometry. IIRC, the P was only made briefly, 
> used lugs and HT tubes out of Taiwan.  Does anyone know if was in fact a 
> close relative or truly an exact copy? 
>
> Hard to believe, but the Ram took a "nap" about 10 years ago now and still 
> hasn't woken up :)  I saw an Orange 55 CM frame here on the list this week 
> and ALMOST bought it. It is truly a big too big though, even if I built it 
> as a 650B. I hope someone who will enjoy its ride gets it and builds it up. 
>

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[RBW] FS-Joe Appaloosa

[iamkeith]

Hope this isn't an inappropriate question, but is that saddle set at your 
proper height?  If so, it looks to be an almost perfect fit, to me. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm NOS Proto-Appaloosa

[Christopher Murray]

Really? That's a suprise. It is a great frame and will make someone very happy. 

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[dougP]

BMX tires in a 650B size?  Are these for adult BMX bikes?  

Since the mechanic suggested "why not go with what you have?" & you agreed, 
I think you have a basis to return the BMX tires & get the ones you thought 
you were getting.  In good faith, the owner should have at least called you 
to let you know he'd made a change.  Probably really busy, didn't have 
time, etc., but since you're not 100% satisfied AND you brought it in with 
something you liked, I'd suggest giving it a try.  You said the mechanic 
was nice, that's worth something.  If everything else came right, I'd push 
for the change as you want to build a relationship with a LBS, and 
relationships are a 2 way street.  It's really not the owner's place to 
decide what the customer needs unless asked.  My 2 cents, anyway.

dougP

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 4:36:36 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Flat protection is TOTALLY priority for me. I *ducks head here* don't know 
> how to change flats and don't really want to learn. I just want tires that 
> do exactly what my last Continental tires did - give me zero trouble. I 
> rode those tires thousands of miles and never a flat. 
>
> So, tell me what Schwalbes I should get. My tires are 38, I think. You 
> know what I want, just tell me what to order. As far as the bike shop, I 
> don't think I want to ask them to help me with an exchange. I know how hard 
> it is for businesses to make money, and the mechanics were really nice, and 
> I didn't specify what tires to put on the bike, so it's mostly my fault. I 
> did ask what they thought to put on there when I initially dropped off the 
> bike and the mechanic said, "How about the same tires you have on already?" 
> so I thought they were going with that.  But I didn't TELL them, and I 
> ought to have. The issue likely came when the owner got involved. When I 
> came for the bike, I asked about the tires and the owner was all excited 
> about these tires he had chosen for my bike and he said so. He's a genuine 
> roadie and all the stereotypical stuff that goes with that, so our 
> preferences are polar opposites. Lesson learned! Know what you want and 
> politely ask for it. 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Feb 26, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado <
> row.n.2...@gmail.com > wrote: 
> > 
> > Leah, 
> > Remember if you don't ask you will never know. Ask the bike shop for an 
> exchange. Worst case they say no.You walk away unhappy and they lose a 
> customer.They can put the exchanged tires on another bike or sell them at a 
> reduced price.The bike shop I worked at did that all the time.The same with 
> saddles. We wanted the customer to be happy. 
> > If  flat protection is a priority 
> > 
> > over comfort go with the Schwalbe tires. 
> > Like others I question putting bmx tires on your bike.I'd ask them why 
> they chose those tires???Almost like they were taking advantage of you. 
> > Good luck. 
> > Jon 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm NOS Proto-Appaloosa

[PaulM]

This frameset was made in Taiwan. I wish it was made by Nobilette, but 
Rivendell told me otherwise.

On Thursday, 23 February 2017 18:39:35 UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Wow! What a great deal on an amazing bike. This was made by Mark Nobilette 
> if it's the same bike from last summer. I talked to Riv about it but it was 
> a tad too big for me. 
>
> Someone is going to get an unbelievable bike for an incredible price.
>
> Whomever is lucky enough to end up with it needs to post pics when it is 
> built.
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Kogswell P vs. Rambouillet

[Ryan Nute]

The ride/handling is very similar from what I remember.

Ryan

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 6:22:41 AM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Saw an ebay listing for a 62cm Kogswell P and the ad copy stated it was an 
> exact copy of the Rambouillet geometry. IIRC, the P was only made briefly, 
> used lugs and HT tubes out of Taiwan.  Does anyone know if was in fact a 
> close relative or truly an exact copy? 
>
> Hard to believe, but the Ram took a "nap" about 10 years ago now and still 
> hasn't woken up :)  I saw an Orange 55 CM frame here on the list this week 
> and ALMOST bought it. It is truly a big too big though, even if I built it 
> as a 650B. I hope someone who will enjoy its ride gets it and builds it up. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm NOS Proto-Appaloosa

[PaulM]

This frameset was handmade in Taiwan not by Mark Nobillete.

On Thursday, 23 February 2017 14:28:57 UTC-8, PaulM wrote:
>
> New old stock Proto-Appaloosa frameset purchased from Rivendell last 
> summer. Never built-up but did install wheels to see fit. Removed BB that 
> came with the frameset. Only selling because I purchased a Roscoe Bubbe 5 
> which wasn't offered when I purchased the Appaloosa. This one has the 
> diagonal tube with "tentacles". Only one downtube shifter boss on the right 
> side, so no front derailleur. Run a 1x9 or use a stick for double chainring 
> setup. Definitely a frame that will be super-luxurious comfort. New Tektro 
> R559 long reach brakeset. included.
>
> seattube- 58cm c-t
> toptube- 63cm c-c, actual/ 63.5cm effective
> headtube-20cm
> chainstays-56cm, middle of horizontal dropouts
> wheelbase- 123cm
> standover- 84cm w/ 35c tires, will fit 50c tires
> 135mm rear spacing
> $1150 plus shipping
>
> Thanks 
>
>

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[RBW] F/S Nitto albatross heat treated 55cm

[Daniel Jackson]

Hi Rod,

I'll take it. Would you PM me with Payment details?

Thanks,
Daniel on mobile 

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[RBW] F/S Nitto albatross heat treated 55cm

[Rod Chew]

25.4 clamp size 
$75 shipped

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Sam Hillborne

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks, Will.  I was leaning that way but since you had this set-up, 
thought I'd ask.  

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 10:37:52 AM UTC-5, Will Ashe wrote:
>
> I like Boscos just fine. I do feel like they're better suited to a longer 
> bike like a Cheviot, but they work well for my riding. 
>
> I'd consider trying Albatross bars first, I feel like that's an easier 
> transition from drops. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Jeffrey B]

The little big bens are great tires in a 38mm width. I've got 5000+ miles on 
mine in lots of conditions off road and on, and they still have a ton of life 
left. Good luck!

PS: I agree with the other posters about the sand spray dying down after a few 
more miles.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Jon Dukeman]

Leah,
If you liked those Continentals go with them.
If you want a change try Schwalbe touring tires.Not sure they have flat
protection tire in your size.
Did you say yours  was 650b???
You might give Rivendell a call tell them you want best flat protection
tire.
Or ride the tires you got and see if they improve.
I'm not much help am I  ??LOL
Jon


"FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK "

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Flat protection is TOTALLY priority for me. I *ducks head here* don't know
> how to change flats and don't really want to learn. I just want tires that
> do exactly what my last Continental tires did - give me zero trouble. I
> rode those tires thousands of miles and never a flat.
>
> So, tell me what Schwalbes I should get. My tires are 38, I think. You
> know what I want, just tell me what to order. As far as the bike shop, I
> don't think I want to ask them to help me with an exchange. I know how hard
> it is for businesses to make money, and the mechanics were really nice, and
> I didn't specify what tires to put on the bike, so it's mostly my fault. I
> did ask what they thought to put on there when I initially dropped off the
> bike and the mechanic said, "How about the same tires you have on already?"
> so I thought they were going with that.  But I didn't TELL them, and I
> ought to have. The issue likely came when the owner got involved. When I
> came for the bike, I asked about the tires and the owner was all excited
> about these tires he had chosen for my bike and he said so. He's a genuine
> roadie and all the stereotypical stuff that goes with that, so our
> preferences are polar opposites. Lesson learned! Know what you want and
> politely ask for it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 26, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado <
> row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Leah,
> > Remember if you don't ask you will never know. Ask the bike shop for an
> exchange. Worst case they say no.You walk away unhappy and they lose a
> customer.They can put the exchanged tires on another bike or sell them at a
> reduced price.The bike shop I worked at did that all the time.The same with
> saddles. We wanted the customer to be happy.
> > If  flat protection is a priority
> >
> > over comfort go with the Schwalbe tires.
> > Like others I question putting bmx tires on your bike.I'd ask them why
> they chose those tires???Almost like they were taking advantage of you.
> > Good luck.
> > Jon
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Leah Peterson]

Flat protection is TOTALLY priority for me. I *ducks head here* don't know how 
to change flats and don't really want to learn. I just want tires that do 
exactly what my last Continental tires did - give me zero trouble. I rode those 
tires thousands of miles and never a flat. 

So, tell me what Schwalbes I should get. My tires are 38, I think. You know 
what I want, just tell me what to order. As far as the bike shop, I don't think 
I want to ask them to help me with an exchange. I know how hard it is for 
businesses to make money, and the mechanics were really nice, and I didn't 
specify what tires to put on the bike, so it's mostly my fault. I did ask what 
they thought to put on there when I initially dropped off the bike and the 
mechanic said, "How about the same tires you have on already?" so I thought 
they were going with that.  But I didn't TELL them, and I ought to have. The 
issue likely came when the owner got involved. When I came for the bike, I 
asked about the tires and the owner was all excited about these tires he had 
chosen for my bike and he said so. He's a genuine roadie and all the 
stereotypical stuff that goes with that, so our preferences are polar 
opposites. Lesson learned! Know what you want and politely ask for it.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 26, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado 
>  wrote:
> 
> Leah,
> Remember if you don't ask you will never know. Ask the bike shop for an 
> exchange. Worst case they say no.You walk away unhappy and they lose a 
> customer.They can put the exchanged tires on another bike or sell them at a 
> reduced price.The bike shop I worked at did that all the time.The same with 
> saddles. We wanted the customer to be happy.
> If  flat protection is a priority
> 
> over comfort go with the Schwalbe tires.
> Like others I question putting bmx tires on your bike.I'd ask them why they 
> chose those tires???Almost like they were taking advantage of you.
> Good luck.
> Jon
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[RBW] WTB: Wooly warm Blue, XL

[BenG]

Hi friend. If you wish to exchange one of the later Blue woolywarm sweaters, 
especially a cardigan or vest, for money, please advise. My green XXL cardigan 
just spent 3 nice hrs on and off an afternoon ride, and the blue will be put to 
use riding, camping, running a cold sound board - places that pull me in. XL is 
my best fit. If not, enjoy yours!
Ben

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[RBW] FS: 1960s Raleigh Superbe

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Eric,Where are you and is Amtrack the only option for shipping?
Thanks
Jon

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Leah,
Remember if you don't ask you will never know. Ask the bike shop for an 
exchange. Worst case they say no.You walk away unhappy and they lose a 
customer.They can put the exchanged tires on another bike or sell them at a 
reduced price.The bike shop I worked at did that all the time.The same with 
saddles. We wanted the customer to be happy.
If  flat protection is a priority

over comfort go with the Schwalbe tires.
Like others I question putting bmx tires on your bike.I'd ask them why they 
chose those tires???Almost like they were taking advantage of you.
Good luck.
Jon

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

[Grant Petersen]

I'm still with Mary Anderson, and I like that, too.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM, BenG  wrote:

> First time I saw this cover I noted "with Mary Anderson" and I like that.
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[RBW] Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[BenG]

Where you live tho. What a beautiful picture.

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: Glorius and Wilbury

[BenG]

Tom, I was watching that frame before you bought it, and love how you built it. 
Much interest and limited resources. Hang in there.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Garth]

I wouldn't let the classification "bmx" sway you Leah. Yes, it seems a very 
odd since bmx bikes that I know of don't have 27.5" wheels !I did 
finally find a website where they are listed and that is Tioga's Japanese 
website, gee why didn't I think to look there first ?! Ahahahaah !   It's 
the only place I could find any record of them existing in 27.5.  
http://tiogajpn.com/products/tire/tir28800.html   

Could you speak to the shop first and see if they can offer you a solution 
to your satisfaction? Nobody wants to ride tires they don't like and 
everyone understands that. 

You know, I like to listen to christmas music all the time  I only 
mention this because everything always works out no matter how I may want 
to argue about it :) 




On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 4:37:18 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> It was nice enough for a family bike ride yesterday, so we took a new 
> trails ways from home. I was hoping the sand spray would stop with some 
> miles on the bike. I do think it's better, but still happens now and again. 
> I was dismayed to find out these are BMX race tires? (See Garth's link.) 
> Ever since, I've rather unfairly set my opinion against them. Out of 
> curiosity, I went to Rivendell's site and noticed these beautiful tires : 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-new-xpress-650b-x-38-34-71-express-terracotta-tread
>
> Should I have gotten these instead? Who has these? What say you? And would 
> that color just be drop dead gorgeous with TBBITW or what? 
>
> If I DID decide to buy them, I'm thinking I will find another LBS to 
> install them - not sure I can face the other one. I'd feel so embarrassed. 
> What to do with the BMX tires? They can't be returned, I'm sure.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 25, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado <
> row.n.2...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> Leah,
> I wonder if your new tires have a taller profile than the old ones and 
> that might be causing all the scraping of pebbles and noise from sand and 
> gravel scraping the fenders.
> My Sam and Cheviot have the same tires. The Sam has P45 fenders and I hear 
> pebbles, & sand scraping the fender all the time.The Cheviot has P50 
> fenders with more clearance and I rarely hear any scraping of pebbles or 
> leaves.
> Just a thought.
> It might be the stickiness of the rubber throwing sand like others have 
> said.
> Enjoy your new ride.
> Jon
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 11:06:50 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
>> Garth, I laughed out loud at the visual created with "sleigh ride down 
>> the hillside." Can't tell you why, it was just an apt description and I 
>> could feel it. 
>>
>> I'll stick it out with these tires for awhile. I've got hope after 
>> reading that some others had the same and it improved with mileage. 
>>
>> I'm just so happy to have my bike back. My birthday is this weekend and 
>> guess what -mama found a new paved bike trail! This means the rest of my 
>> family must not complain about however many miles I decide we should go. 
>>
>> Patrick - cool photo. A keepsake. All your ideas were good so, naturally 
>> I've implemented zero because, well, I don't know anything about that 
>> stuff. Including how to fix a flat. *Ducks for cover here.* 😜 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Feb 24, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Garth  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Get the tires you want Leah ! While the shop owner may think what he 
>> put on is swell, but since you're the one that actually rides your 
>> bike(along with furry friend), that's about all there is to that. Reminds 
>> me of a back seat driver 😰😰😰   I once had some Dunlop new auto tires 
>> that were supposedly wonderful. on the way home I going down my usual 
>> steep hill I was frightened for my life for the first time in my life 
>> driving an auto, it felt like the tires were going to come off the rims and 
>> I'd be on a sleigh ride down the hillside. Right back to the shop and 
>> returned them and have ridden my preferred Michelin tires ever since. You 
>> like what you like... 
>> > 
>> > The Conti tires you had have changed name to the Ride Tour and come in 
>> the size you need so have them get some or from some-one. 
>> > 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Sam Hillborne, complete, or not

[BenG]

Testimony. Just rode my 60cm Sam to local coffee roaster/microbrew taphouse, 
where I sit sip type. 89pbh is good on that thing, too. Jumps under foot. 
Albatross, bullmoose bosco, and dirt dropped noodles to date, all full of 
delight. Mine started that same green, now in pewter and cream. Make it yours.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Ian A]

Your new tires just need a few more miles on them. I find tires need 100 miles 
or so before they right. Give your new tires a bit more time and the likelihood 
is you'll like them just fine. 

IanA

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[WETH]

Leah,
Glad you had a good family ride.
I agree those Somas would look nice on your Betty.  I have the black tread 
version on my Romulus: 
(https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-new-xpress-650b-x-38-34-71-express-black-tread)
I like how they ride, but I have gotten 3 flats in 1500 miles of riding. That 
is more than I get with Schwalbe and Compass tires over similar distances and 
routes.  Still the Somas are nice tires and ride well.
Best wishes,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Other Book

[BenG]

First time I saw this cover I noted "with Mary Anderson" and I like that. 

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[RBW] FS Albatross bar setup

[Richard Rios]

Bars are sold thanks. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New tires, perhaps?

[Leah Peterson]

Hi All,

It was nice enough for a family bike ride yesterday, so we took a new trails 
ways from home. I was hoping the sand spray would stop with some miles on the 
bike. I do think it's better, but still happens now and again. I was dismayed 
to find out these are BMX race tires? (See Garth's link.) Ever since, I've 
rather unfairly set my opinion against them. Out of curiosity, I went to 
Rivendell's site and noticed these beautiful tires : 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/soma-new-xpress-650b-x-38-34-71-express-terracotta-tread

Should I have gotten these instead? Who has these? What say you? And would that 
color just be drop dead gorgeous with TBBITW or what? 

If I DID decide to buy them, I'm thinking I will find another LBS to install 
them - not sure I can face the other one. I'd feel so embarrassed. What to do 
with the BMX tires? They can't be returned, I'm sure.



Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 25, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado 
>  wrote:
> 
> Leah,
> I wonder if your new tires have a taller profile than the old ones and that 
> might be causing all the scraping of pebbles and noise from sand and gravel 
> scraping the fenders.
> My Sam and Cheviot have the same tires. The Sam has P45 fenders and I hear 
> pebbles, & sand scraping the fender all the time.The Cheviot has P50 fenders 
> with more clearance and I rarely hear any scraping of pebbles or leaves.
> Just a thought.
> It might be the stickiness of the rubber throwing sand like others have said.
> Enjoy your new ride.
> Jon
> 
>> On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 11:06:50 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>> Garth, I laughed out loud at the visual created with "sleigh ride down the 
>> hillside." Can't tell you why, it was just an apt description and I could 
>> feel it. 
>> 
>> I'll stick it out with these tires for awhile. I've got hope after reading 
>> that some others had the same and it improved with mileage. 
>> 
>> I'm just so happy to have my bike back. My birthday is this weekend and 
>> guess what -mama found a new paved bike trail! This means the rest of my 
>> family must not complain about however many miles I decide we should go. 
>> 
>> Patrick - cool photo. A keepsake. All your ideas were good so, naturally 
>> I've implemented zero because, well, I don't know anything about that stuff. 
>> Including how to fix a flat. *Ducks for cover here.* 😜 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> > On Feb 24, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Garth  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Get the tires you want Leah ! While the shop owner may think what he put 
>> > on is swell, but since you're the one that actually rides your bike(along 
>> > with furry friend), that's about all there is to that. Reminds me of a 
>> > back seat driver 😰😰😰   I once had some Dunlop new auto tires that were 
>> > supposedly wonderful. on the way home I going down my usual steep hill 
>> > I was frightened for my life for the first time in my life driving an 
>> > auto, it felt like the tires were going to come off the rims and I'd be on 
>> > a sleigh ride down the hillside. Right back to the shop and returned them 
>> > and have ridden my preferred Michelin tires ever since. You like what you 
>> > like... 
>> > 
>> > The Conti tires you had have changed name to the Ride Tour and come in the 
>> > size you need so have them get some or from some-one. 
>> > 
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[RBW] Re: FS: new white industries cranks

[Mark Reimer]

Cranks are sold, thanks.

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 1:38:04 PM UTC-6, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Curious about crank arm sizing. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: fillet-brazed 650B triple triangle F/F/HS/Fenders/Racks

[S. Greco]

some more dims:

18.5 cm set back
4 cm trail
45.5 cm chain stays
















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[RBW] Re: FS Salsa Cowchippers, Continental tires & SRAM 10 speed components

[Bruce Smitham]

SRAM Cassette is sold

On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 6:44:16 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> This is the last of the bike items that I no longer need. Prices do not 
> include shipping CONUS. 
>
> SALSA Cowchipper handlebars 46cm wide, 31.8 clamp mounted but never used. 
> Only scuffs near the clamp area $45
> SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
> condition with less than 60 miles $75
> SRAM PG 1070 10 speed Cassette 11-36T in great condition with less than 60 
> miles $35
> SRAM X7 2 x 10 front derailleur in excellent condition with less than 60 
> miles. Top pull $20
> CONTINENTAL Comfort Contact tires 26" x 1.5" in excellent condition both 
> for $30
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
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[RBW] Re: Riv San Marcos 57cm

[Belopsky]

See 
this. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9qYYFg7Ugt0 
seems like 42 w fenders should be possible. I never tried when I had it

On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 12:21:01 PM UTC-5, A. Nostuh wrote:
>
> Anyone here have attempt 42mm 650b tires with aluminum fenders and a max 
> clearance brake like Paul center?
>
>
> I have seen several builds with 38mm w/fenders and 42mm w/o fenders
>
> Certainly the holy grail is both!
>
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[RBW] Riv San Marcos 57cm

[A. Nostuh]

Anyone here have attempt 42mm 650b tires with aluminum fenders and a max 
clearance brake like Paul center?


I have seen several builds with 38mm w/fenders and 42mm w/o fenders

Certainly the holy grail is both!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Sam Hillborne

[Will Ashe]

I like Boscos just fine. I do feel like they're better suited to a longer bike 
like a Cheviot, but they work well for my riding. 

I'd consider trying Albatross bars first, I feel like that's an easier 
transition from drops. 

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[RBW] Kogswell P vs. Rambouillet

[Fullylugged]

Saw an ebay listing for a 62cm Kogswell P and the ad copy stated it was an 
exact copy of the Rambouillet geometry. IIRC, the P was only made briefly, used 
lugs and HT tubes out of Taiwan.  Does anyone know if was in fact a close 
relative or truly an exact copy? 

Hard to believe, but the Ram took a "nap" about 10 years ago now and still 
hasn't woken up :)  I saw an Orange 55 CM frame here on the list this week and 
ALMOST bought it. It is truly a big too big though, even if I built it as a 
650B. I hope someone who will enjoy its ride gets it and builds it up. 

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