Re: [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Surlyprof]

I've been so intrigued/enamored with this bike since I saw the first one at 
Riv.  An RBW mixte with wide tire clearances and 650b sounds like a dream bike. 
Seems like the perfect bike for camping, trails, around town errands and even 
growing old with.  Even went as far as to ask the wife if I could just buy the 
frame, hang it in my shop and collect discounted build parts over the next 3-4 
years.  That appears to be a no go since she bought me a Brompton for 
christmas.  I guess D=3 for now.

Hope the sale comes together and Riv decides to do another run in a couple of 
years.  More of these should be on the roads and trails. Such a cool bike!

John

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 61cm Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Hey Joe,  i sorta bit off more than I could chew in getting a 64 Atlantis,  im 
~6ft,  89.5 pbh,  so pretty close to your measurements.   Ive ridden a 61,  and 
it felt small, so I went 64.   I pretty much always look at the Riv pbh chart 
and if im between sizes I tend to go larger

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 61cm Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Ah,  no worries man!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Ray Varella]

I'll add an endorsement, I have one out of the first batch and it's a great and 
versatile bike. 
Because of the wide range of people it will fit, it can be used for guests as 
well. 
Most bikes won't be quite as flexible in regards to sizes of riders it will 
fit. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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Re: [RBW] Bike destinations in Japan and Amsterdam

[Scott McLain]

Well you have to go to Blue Lug if you are going to Tokyo.

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

I know the jeans dilemma. Once you find a brand and model that works, 
change is hard to face. So, if I may offer some food for thought. 

Maybe it's the jeans and how they fit? Perhaps try the Levi's (or other 
brand) cycling jeans that have a hint of lycra in them? 

I got around the Brooks dye bleeding by purchasing an older used one in 
black (when the leather was thick), though not super black like a new one - 
it's well broken in . Don't know what dye process Brooks uses, but my old 
Turbo and Rolls saddles are black leather and never noticed any bleeding 
issue while wearing khaki shorts. Rivet backs up their saddles with a 
warranty, which may make the cost tolerable as an investment. 

Also, have you tried a saddle with a narrower nose just to see if that 
helps? 

Good luck!
Bill in Roswell, GA



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> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Timothy Orr]

Hey, Jim--

It's a BoBike Maxi SC. I like it alright. I kind of wish I could mount it a 
little lower so the weight wasn't up so high. Also, it's a little flexy. 
But I got it for free from the side of the road, so I feel like I can't 
really complain. 

Cheers, 
Tim 
Portland, OR

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> What kind of child seat is that? 
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Timothy Orr 
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> > This is a fun thread! 
> > 
> > I just have one bike. 
> > 
> > Riv Protovelo Hunqapillar/Appaloosa. 62cm. 29x2.15 Big Apples. Got it of 
> the list just a bit ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_WNQHhzL4/ 
> > 
> > Dad bike/commuter/tourer/go fast/off roader. 
> > 
> > I'm kind of hoping to just own this bike, and only this bike, until I 
> need to get a Cheviot because I can get my leg over the top tube. 
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Bubbe Mixte

[Timothy Orr]

That's beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 3:53:18 PM UTC-7, Steve Butcher wrote:
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>
> 
>
>
> 
> Hello friends.  I wanted to share a couple of photos of my Rosco Bubbe 
> mixte and early impressions.   This is my first Rivendell and only the 
> second one I've ridden; the first being a Clem-L at A-1 Cycle in 
> Indianapolis.  I had this bike built as my (new) daily commuter.  I truly 
> enjoy the plush, and yet lively ride it provides.  Doc.  
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[RBW] Swift Industries luggage?

[Leaf Slayer]

Hey, anyone here using Swift luggage. I almost pulled the trigger last year 
and the itch has returned this year in anticipation of some summer bike 
camping. I'm considering the Jr Ranger panniers. But the Sugarloaf looks 
pretty sweet too. A little more exciting than my practical and dependable 
Ortliebs. I like the features on the Rangers and the attachment method 
seems better for rough roads.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] creaking berthoud fenders

[Eric Norris]

Did you use leather washers between the fenders and the frame? I have a bag 
full if you need a few. 

–Eric N


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> Hi all, 
> 
> I was hoping for some ideas on stopping my front fender from creaking. It 
> happens most noticeably when I pedal out of the saddle. (Yes, I know the 
> obvious answer - stay in the saddle.) I'm not sure what to change. Makes me 
> wish I'd have left the SKS fenders on it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.
> 
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Re: [RBW] creaking berthoud fenders

[Steve Palincsar]

I don't suppose, by any chance, your fender is making contact with the 
inside edges of the fork crown/fork blades?  When you get out of the 
saddle, you're twisting the frame and the fork, and I've experienced the 
front wheel actually rubbing on the fork on one of my bikes.



On 04/04/2017 09:34 PM, Jim S. wrote:

Hi all,

I was hoping for some ideas on stopping my front fender from creaking. 
It happens most noticeably when I pedal out of the saddle. (Yes, I 
know the obvious answer - stay in the saddle.) I'm not sure what to 
change. Makes me wish I'd have left the SKS fenders on it. Thanks in 
advance for any ideas.




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[RBW] WTB: 61cm Atlantis

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hello Michael,
 Just sent you an email,
- Frank

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[RBW] creaking berthoud fenders

[Jim S.]

Hi all, 

I was hoping for some ideas on stopping my front fender from creaking. It 
happens most noticeably when I pedal out of the saddle. (Yes, I know the 
obvious answer - stay in the saddle.) I'm not sure what to change. Makes me 
wish I'd have left the SKS fenders on it. Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Jim S.

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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Patrick Moore]

Me too. Or, better: I too!

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Interesting thread!
>>
>> Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special
>>
>> Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it
>> and buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking
>> are all part of the fun
>>
>> I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87
>> Rossin, 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted
>>
>> My N bikes
>>
>> *Elegant mutts*
>> 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going strong.
>> When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed vertebrae,
>> bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the saddle. ...in
>> fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . Both bike and
>> rider are just fine, thank the fates
>>
>> 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars
>>
>> *The queens (not garage queens)*
>>
>> 1997 Riv allrounder
>>
>> 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike
>>
>> 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom
>>
>> At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem
>>
>> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world
>> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or
>>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you
>> guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question
>>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Folks:
>>>
>>> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but
>>> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder
>>> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist
>>> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>>>
>>> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
>>> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do
>>> you own them?
>>>
>>> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will
>>> (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of
>>> bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding
>>> enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for
>>> me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement,
>>> and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of
>>> the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that
>>> doesn't get used very often.
>>>
>>> Current Stable:
>>>
>>> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring
>>> and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride
>>> allows/inspires it.
>>>
>>> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy
>>> flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well.
>>> I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the
>>> geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all
>>> with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for
>>> expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better
>>> than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my
>>> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance
>>> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler.
>>>
>>> How about you?
>>>
>>> Bob K. in Baltimore
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Eric Floden]

"We are aiming for one hundred and still have so far to go"


On Apr 4, 2017 6:41 AM, "Jim S."  wrote:

This is an interesting question. I have a wife and 5 kids. In our garage
there are, I dunno, 20 bikes or so. The kids all have 2, and there are a
couple that are in-between kids. My wife and I each have 4, plus there's a
Brompton. Hell, I guess there must be more than 20.

With that said, I frequently get questions like this: (from crabby
mother-in-law and also visitors to our back yard who can see into the
garage) "How many bikes do you have?" with a tone suggesting that having a
garage full of bikes is somehow inappropriate for some reason.

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[RBW] FS - WI/SP Cliffhanger 650B wheel components, WI Eno Hub/17-19 FW, WI Eno Crank,

[Tony DeFilippo]

I've got some pricey parts cluttering up my garage and thought process and 
figure I'll throw some of them up for grabs in case you want it more. 
 Shipping not included unless specifically noted.

#1 - Fancy Wheelset that was going to go on my now sold Bombadil.  These 
are components, not a built up wheelset, and note that spokes/nipples 
aren't available from me.

WI XMR disc hub, 135mm OLD, 32H, Red anodized - bought used good condition 
- $170
SP Dyno PD-8 disc hub, 100mm OLD, 32H, Red anodized - new in box - $110
Velocity Cliffhanger 650B rims, black, 32H - new in plastic - $180

$480 for all three, if you meet that price I'll eat the shipping.  Offers 
on individual components considered.

#2 - WI Eno Hub, 32H, silver with WI 17/19 FW.  $150 shipped.  Currently 
laced to a nice 26" Mavic rim which I will include if you pay shipping, 
otherwise I'll take the hub/fw out of the wheel and cover the shipping.

#3 - WI Eno Crankset, 175mm, silver 34T chainring installed and looks new. 
 Well used but will buff up nicely. - $150 shipped


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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks, Nitto, Sackville

[Steve]

I'm interested in the rack, if still available.
--Steve

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Justin, Oakland]

Currently I have 2.5 bikes. I would prefer 2. I don't log enough hours to 
justify more to me.
1) Saluki: Commuter, Road, Coffee, Fire trail, everything but the rocks, roots 
and downhills.
2) El Mariachi: Rocks, roots and downhills. 29er with front suspension.  In a 
world where I can sneakily do it I swap out this for a Jones. Or I try it with 
a rigid fork and 27.5+. That sounds juust right. 
.5) Specialized RockHopper that was going to be a camping bike but I'm going to 
be moving along soon. I'll take the MAP Bars and sell the rest. Anyone want a 
nicely kept small sized RockHopper?

I had a dream of building up a stripped down roadie but I'll just get my 28 
hole wheelset laces up for the Saluki. I love the difference in doing MTB with 
front suspension and disc brakes. It's just different and fun. I think a Jones 
would give me that as well plus it would be more versatile. 

My wife has a Betty Foy and I use that to commute on sometimes. A Betty/Ives 
(fixed 650b) would be the only 3rd bike I'd be interested in. Maybe a Cheviot 
if kids come but we'll see on that. 

-Justin



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[RBW] WTB: 61cm Atlantis

[Michael Williams]

Hey group,  i used to have a 64 Atlantis,  sold it because it was a little too 
big.   Im seeing if anyone has a 61 Atlantis out there they just dont ride that 
much.Thank you!   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Gratuitous bump as it appears we are at 7 bikes when we need 8.  Just tempting 
you all. You know you want one!

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[RBW] Rosco Bubbe Mixte

[Steve Butcher]

Hello friends.  I wanted to share a couple of photos of my Rosco Bubbe 
mixte and early impressions.   This is my first Rivendell and only the 
second one I've ridden; the first being a Clem-L at A-1 Cycle in 
Indianapolis.  I had this bike built as my (new) daily commuter.  I truly 
enjoy the plush, and yet lively ride it provides.  Doc.  

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Deacon Patrick]

See, honey? I'm a minimalist with just my two bikes. Grin.

To answer the question, I am usually happy with two bikes. The window when 
I'm not gets smaller every year as I do better riding the QB on longer 
rides in the spring when the roads are clear for miles and miles, but the 
trails are still snowed in (April into May). That's when I have to practice 
contentment against a country bike with gears (the QB is a single speed 
country bike).

So, to actually answer the rest of the question:

Hunqapillar: Everything. (Includes day rides, single track, bikepacking, 
grocery getter, country bike, all weathers, etc.)
Quickbeam: Day rides that are go fast and light. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 9:24:18 AM UTC-6, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you 
> own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon) 
> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for 
> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to 
> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for me to 
> store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, and 
> neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of the 
> living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
> doesn't get used very often.
>
> Current Stable:
>
> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring and 
> some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride allows/inspires 
> it.
>
> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy flirtation 
> with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. I decided 
> the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the geometry 
> readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all with the 
> Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for expensive 
> cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better than the 
> also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>
> How about you?
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
>

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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Belopsky]

The goal of this bike is to see how well a cheap bike with some upgrades 
(read: Cheap wheels off an older Trek Belleville / Swobo Fillmore (I 
think?)) holds up for commuting.
$99 for most of what you see, with the wheels/tires off the Trek. Rack I 
had laying around. Milk crate circa 2007. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/14767344@N07/33030433823/in/dateposted-public/

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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Stuart Lovinggood]

I, like Tim, have settled on a one-bike approach, plus one. So not really 
like Tim at all. I have a new Appaloosa that replaced a Surly Straggler as 
my do-it-all bike. I had a hardtail fat bike but sold it as I didn't really 
enjoy riding any trails tougher than I could ride on my Straggler. And I've 
got an MB-5 as my #2 sitting in the garage, set up as a bar bike for 
running to the grocery or locking up around town. I've had more bikes in 
the stable but really enjoy the simplicity of the one (plus one) approach. 

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 3:38:42 PM UTC-5, Timothy Orr wrote:
>
> This is a fun thread! 
>
> I just have one bike. 
>
> Riv Protovelo Hunqapillar/Appaloosa. 62cm. 29x2.15 Big Apples. Got it of 
> the list just a bit ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_WNQHhzL4/ 
>
> Dad bike/commuter/tourer/go fast/off roader. 
>
> I'm kind of hoping to just own this bike, and only this bike, until I need 
> to get a Cheviot because I can get my leg over the top tube. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Abcyclehank]

Jim,
That looks like a single child seat for Desi.  I find it idealistic that he 
believes one bike is enough.  24 years ago when my first child was hauled 
around I thought so too.  Now 6+4 occasionally but in transition due to 
retirement, children moving out and on into their own homes, etc.  All good 
times make better by bicycling.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Jim Bronson]

What kind of child seat is that?

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Timothy Orr
 wrote:
> This is a fun thread!
>
> I just have one bike.
>
> Riv Protovelo Hunqapillar/Appaloosa. 62cm. 29x2.15 Big Apples. Got it of the 
> list just a bit ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_WNQHhzL4/
>
> Dad bike/commuter/tourer/go fast/off roader.
>
> I'm kind of hoping to just own this bike, and only this bike, until I need to 
> get a Cheviot because I can get my leg over the top tube.
>
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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Timothy Orr]

This is a fun thread!

I just have one bike. 

Riv Protovelo Hunqapillar/Appaloosa. 62cm. 29x2.15 Big Apples. Got it of the 
list just a bit ago: https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_WNQHhzL4/

Dad bike/commuter/tourer/go fast/off roader.

I'm kind of hoping to just own this bike, and only this bike, until I need to 
get a Cheviot because I can get my leg over the top tube. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: NIB Brooks Team Pro in Maroon

[Jim Robertson]

On Monday, March 27, 2017 at 9:28:18 PM UTC-7, Jim Robertson wrote:
> Hi:
> I have a new in box Brooks team pro in rare maroon paid 160 asking $135 
> shipped conus.  Reason for sale I got it for a build and it didn't work with 
> the colour of the bike like I thought it would. Let me know if interested.


Price drop $120 shipped conus.

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[RBW] Re: Rovendell Romulus Modifications

[Ryan Fleming]

that's a funny thing about rivs even before long chainstays isn't it? You 
do feel like you're in it not on it

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 11:17:27 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I think it's practically the perfect bicycle. It has that magical Riv 
> combination of smooth ride, and nice, predictable turn in: To my car brain 
> sensibilities it fits in the category of Grand Touring. I like the "sitting 
> in the bike" feel of the long wheelbase, and there's lots of room for fat 
> tires and fenders and racks. 
>
> I liked my Romulus, but as a general purpose road-with-some-dirt bike, the 
> Appaloosa cleans its clock. And it has the coolest fork crown in Riv 
> history. Don't wait..buy one. 
>

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Scott McLain]

Wow, what a thread!

I feel much better about my own bike collection:
2006 LHT
2007 A Homer Hilsen
2014 Surly Pacer
Rockhopper 29er - For my kids to use
Stumpjumper 29er - For my use
Betty Foye - My wife's bike
1969 Scwhinn Twinn Tandem
1989 Marin Eldridge
A host of kids bikes
No Carbon bikes.


On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:21:16 PM UTC-6, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Sorry Phillip ...the harvest gold and me on the left for a rather nice 
> 65km Charity ride for a home for patients with Alzheimer's ...it has one of 
> Riv's vegan bar tubes
>
> Mix of Nitto , a little campagnolo, old suntour, brrooks...this and that. 
> With Compass Stampede pass EL tires...best road tires I've ever ridden. 
> It's my go-fast bike   ...but the engine not so much. The 65km draws out 
> the fast ridersplenty pass me unless  they have flats :)
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:36:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting thread!
>>>
>>> Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special
>>>
>>> Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it 
>>> and buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking 
>>> are all part of the fun
>>>
>>> I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 
>>> Rossin, 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted
>>>
>>> My N bikes
>>>
>>> *Elegant mutts*
>>> 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going 
>>> strong. When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed 
>>> vertebrae, bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the 
>>> saddle. ...in fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . 
>>> Both bike and rider are just fine, thank the fates
>>>
>>> 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars
>>>
>>> *The queens (not garage queens)*
>>>
>>> 1997 Riv allrounder
>>>
>>> 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike
>>>
>>> 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom
>>>
>>> At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem
>>>
>>> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
>>> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
>>>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
>>> guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:

 Hey Folks:

 I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
 Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
 how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
 camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:

 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
 you own them? 

 My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
 (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
 bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
 enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space 
 for 
 me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
 and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner 
 of 
 the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
 doesn't get used very often.

 Current Stable:

 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
 and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
 allows/inspires it.

 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
 flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as 
 well. 
 I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
 geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
 with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for 
 expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
 than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of 
 my 
 erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
 tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 

 How about you?

 Bob K. in Baltimore



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[RBW] Rovendell Romulus Modifications

[WETH]

I have never ridden a Sam, so I cannot compare.  The Romulus would be fine for 
touring.  The narrow tire clearance would make it less enjoyable on dirt than a 
Joe, I think.
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ryan Fleming]

Indeed. I wonder if he's still actively building. 

It may be to some that Rivendell customs are extravagant. But they are 
 lovingly crafted. They're beautiful machines. Now, it seems like it would 
be hard to exceed the already high standards of the production models. But 
the customs do pull it off and it's not fluff. There's a lot of meticulous 
hand labour and skill going on there. Also, it's the best riding  road bike 
I've ever owned and I've had a few.

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:55:05 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> awesome! I always admired his handywork
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:41:01 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:36:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 Interesting thread!

 Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special

 Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it 
 and buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking 
 are all part of the fun

 I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 
 Rossin, 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted

 My N bikes

 *Elegant mutts*
 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going 
 strong. When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed 
 vertebrae, bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the 
 saddle. ...in fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall 
 . 
 Both bike and rider are just fine, thank the fates

 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars

 *The queens (not garage queens)*

 1997 Riv allrounder

 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike

 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom

 At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem

 When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
 where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
 guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question

 On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, 
> but Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me 
> wonder how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the 
> minimalist camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
> you own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
> (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
> bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
> enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space 
> for 
> me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
> and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner 
> of 
> the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
> doesn't get used very often.
>
> Current Stable:
>
> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
> and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
> allows/inspires it.
>
> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
> flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as 
> well. 
> I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
> geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
> with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need 
> for 
> expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
> than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of 
> my 
> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>
> How about you?
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne Frameset, Racks, etc.

[SPC]

Sale over. Thanks to all who purchased. Decided to keep the Sam a bit longer. 

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Orc]

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:31:31 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider.
>

I fully expect that when I die most of my bicycles will end up being 
recycled.  My idea of a comfortable fit is fairly idiosyncratic, and I 
build my machines out of light enough tubing so that they'll be well along 
the fatigue curve by the time my warranty expires.

-david parsons

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ryan Fleming]

Sorry Phillip ...the harvest gold and me on the left for a rather nice 65km 
Charity ride for a home for patients with Alzheimer's ...it has one of 
Riv's vegan bar tubes

Mix of Nitto , a little campagnolo, old suntour, brrooks...this and that. 
With Compass Stampede pass EL tires...best road tires I've ever ridden. 
It's my go-fast bike   ...but the engine not so much. The 65km draws out 
the fast ridersplenty pass me unless  they have flats :)

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:36:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Interesting thread!
>>
>> Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special
>>
>> Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it 
>> and buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking 
>> are all part of the fun
>>
>> I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 
>> Rossin, 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted
>>
>> My N bikes
>>
>> *Elegant mutts*
>> 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going strong. 
>> When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed vertebrae, 
>> bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the saddle. ...in 
>> fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . Both bike and 
>> rider are just fine, thank the fates
>>
>> 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars
>>
>> *The queens (not garage queens)*
>>
>> 1997 Riv allrounder
>>
>> 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike
>>
>> 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom
>>
>> At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem
>>
>> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
>> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
>>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
>> guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question
>>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Folks:
>>>
>>> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
>>> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
>>> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
>>> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>>>
>>> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
>>> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
>>> you own them? 
>>>
>>> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
>>> (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
>>> bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
>>> enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for 
>>> me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
>>> and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of 
>>> the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
>>> doesn't get used very often.
>>>
>>> Current Stable:
>>>
>>> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
>>> and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
>>> allows/inspires it.
>>>
>>> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
>>> flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. 
>>> I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
>>> geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
>>> with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for 
>>> expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
>>> than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
>>> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
>>> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>>>
>>> How about you?
>>>
>>> Bob K. in Baltimore
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 
>
> My N has been stable at 8 for awhile which is too many. Luckily for me D 
> is apparently greater than 8 but it is possible D = 9 so I am not pushing 
> it. I think that my preferred N should be closer to 4, but I seem to be 
> having a hard time downsizing. There is one main reason for this, I keep 
> changing. My changes:1) I just retired so there is no need for a commuter, 
> but I still run errands and shop on a bike so that type of bike is 
> "necessary."  2) After being a roadie for decades, I am becoming more of a 
> dirt rider. The auto driver hoards win, I don't want to go like 
> Mike Hall last week, so most of my rides for fun and fitness are now in the 
> dirt. 3) Finally after racing in the 1980s-1990s and holding on to that 
> type of riding (hammer, paceline, performance, light-weight bikes, hard 
> tires) into the oughts, I now am more interested in touring (like my 1970s 
> cycling origins). So my bikes in order of importance at this time:
>
 
1) Jones Plus 
 
 
it is the bike I would grab in case of a house fire.
2) Legolas 
 
because 
of its versatility as a go-fast, a randonneur, as a multi-surface or gravel 
bike. It currently has fenders, M12 rack with Acorn h'bar bag, Son dynamo 
with Edulux.  It also has a Tom Matchak 
 low-trail fork, seen here 

.
3) Surly LHT 
 
this was my commuter and is still my load carrier. Why do I love this low 
cost bike? Well it too has a Matchak low-trail fork, and SP & Luxos U 
lighting system, Tubus racks, Ritchey Logic crank, so it is not so 
inexpensive. It also is the only bike with (Mavic) friction downtube 
shifters that I still love. This bike can do so much and adventure is 
written all over it.
4) Rivendell Road Standard 
 
designed by Grant, built by Curt, painted by Joe this is a go-fast bike 
that isn't as versatile as the Legolas. But man it just fits beautifully 
and I still love it. It is the bike I chose for Ride the Rockies in 2014. 
It is my only bike with caliper brakes, lugged stem, a lovely TA crank, 
Noodle bars (like all my drop bar bikes), Campy brifters mated to 9 speed 
derailers and cassette. 
5) Surly Pugsley 
There
 
are better fat bikes now. But I have it heavily accessorized (Moonlander 
fork, Son-Edulux, BigO fenders 
) 
and I just love the way it rides. It is my backup dirt bike but doesn't 
perform near as well as the Jones in that role. And the Jones is nearly as 
versatile in snow with a 4 inch tire up front.
6) Quickbeam, 
 
1st generation, set up with 5 single speed gears (two chainrings, dingle, 
and a flip flop) and a fixed multi-gear rear wheel 
 
that hasn't been used for years. A SS is fun but also limiting (part of the 
fun!) and could go to someone else. But then I take it for a long ride and 
I just can't bring myself to sell. Maybe in a few ears. 
7) Rivendell AllRounder 1995 
, 
one owner, many adventures. But I bought it at my racing size of 58cm and I 
ride 60-62cm frames now, so its too small. It is my other load carrier with 
26 inch wheels. It has 753 tubing and chameleon (purple and green) paint 
with a top tube ding, 3 Nitto racks (front and rear large racks plus an M12 
that holds an Acorn bag), another Ritchey Logic triple crank, Tektro 720 
brakes. It is a versatile AllRounder with a long quill technomic stem, new 
VO fenders room for 2" tires under those fenders, and rides pretty well on 
the road with Kojak 1.5" slicks. Visiting friends can ride it road or dirt. 
Do I need both 26" and 700c touring bikes? No I do not.
8) Salsa Ala Carte, 26" inch mountain bike, with orange paint, a Pugsley 
100mm hub width fork with a 3" front tire. It should go too but it is quick 
and fast and is currently staying at my wee Mum's home not far from Patrick 
Moore for rides when I am there.

Maybe my N is 8, at least for now. I did give away my loved 1966 Robin Hood 
3 speed and do not miss it, so maybe there is hope for me.

Joe in GJT

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Philip Kim]

awesome! I always admired his handywork

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:41:01 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:36:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting thread!
>>>
>>> Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special
>>>
>>> Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it 
>>> and buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking 
>>> are all part of the fun
>>>
>>> I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 
>>> Rossin, 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted
>>>
>>> My N bikes
>>>
>>> *Elegant mutts*
>>> 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going 
>>> strong. When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed 
>>> vertebrae, bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the 
>>> saddle. ...in fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . 
>>> Both bike and rider are just fine, thank the fates
>>>
>>> 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars
>>>
>>> *The queens (not garage queens)*
>>>
>>> 1997 Riv allrounder
>>>
>>> 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike
>>>
>>> 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom
>>>
>>> At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem
>>>
>>> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
>>> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
>>>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
>>> guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:

 Hey Folks:

 I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
 Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
 how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
 camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:

 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
 you own them? 

 My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
 (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
 bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
 enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space 
 for 
 me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
 and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner 
 of 
 the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
 doesn't get used very often.

 Current Stable:

 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
 and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
 allows/inspires it.

 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
 flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as 
 well. 
 I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
 geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
 with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for 
 expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
 than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of 
 my 
 erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
 tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 

 How about you?

 Bob K. in Baltimore



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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ryan Fleming]

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:36:14 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> Interesting thread!
>>
>> Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special
>>
>> Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it 
>> and buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking 
>> are all part of the fun
>>
>> I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 
>> Rossin, 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted
>>
>> My N bikes
>>
>> *Elegant mutts*
>> 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going strong. 
>> When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed vertebrae, 
>> bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the saddle. ...in 
>> fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . Both bike and 
>> rider are just fine, thank the fates
>>
>> 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars
>>
>> *The queens (not garage queens)*
>>
>> 1997 Riv allrounder
>>
>> 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike
>>
>> 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom
>>
>> At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem
>>
>> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
>> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
>>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
>> guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question
>>
>> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Folks:
>>>
>>> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
>>> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
>>> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
>>> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>>>
>>> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
>>> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
>>> you own them? 
>>>
>>> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
>>> (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
>>> bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
>>> enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for 
>>> me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
>>> and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of 
>>> the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
>>> doesn't get used very often.
>>>
>>> Current Stable:
>>>
>>> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
>>> and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
>>> allows/inspires it.
>>>
>>> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
>>> flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. 
>>> I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
>>> geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
>>> with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for 
>>> expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
>>> than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
>>> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
>>> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>>>
>>> How about you?
>>>
>>> Bob K. in Baltimore
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Jim Bronson]

Ron,

It looks like your return air (and air handler) are right by the front
door...?

That would be an odd setup.

Maybe that's just a bedroom door and not an outside door?

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> The Simplex chainguard is made for a piston FD.
> I figured out how to attach it to a Cyclone FD
> This was just a mock-up, BB not yet installed (waiting on a tap to chase
> the thread)
>
>
> 
>
> I used an precisely measured M-5 standoff in place of the FD band bolt and
> made a Z-bracket using the Simplex parts that lets me put it anywhere I
> need.
>
> The correct length standoff is what positions the FD parallogram in the
> chainguard hump
>
>
>
> 
>
> Still waiting on my custom hubs from Phil.
>
> Can't final position it until I have the drivetrain functioning.  With the
> FD at its outmost travel, cage has to contact inside of chainguard in order
> for the low-Q crankarms to clear the chainguard.
>
>
> 
>
> But I've mocked up everything to know it's going to work.
>
> I now have the BB and crank installed and need Phil to come through with
> my hubs.
>
> Already approved by Phil Engr and paid for.
>
> They're 115mm rear OLD for a 5-sp freewheel with Synergy OC rims to
> minimize wheel dish.
>
> Come on Michael at Phil...
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:29:37 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Nice! The chainguard works with a derailleur?
>>
>> --Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 7:13 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>> I just build up old frames when it strikes my fancy.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> my way
>>
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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Philip Kim]

ooh, i would love to see a picture of the curt goodrich custom!

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 1:31:31 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Interesting thread!
>
> Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special
>
> Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it and 
> buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking are 
> all part of the fun
>
> I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 Rossin, 
> 85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted
>
> My N bikes
>
> *Elegant mutts*
> 1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going strong. 
> When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed vertebrae, 
> bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the saddle. ...in 
> fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . Both bike and 
> rider are just fine, thank the fates
>
> 1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars
>
> *The queens (not garage queens)*
>
> 1997 Riv allrounder
>
> 2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike
>
> 2017 Mark Nobilette Custom
>
> At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem
>
> When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world 
> where they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
>  anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
> guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Folks:
>>
>> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
>> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
>> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
>> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>>
>> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
>> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
>> you own them? 
>>
>> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
>> (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
>> bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
>> enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for 
>> me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
>> and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of 
>> the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
>> doesn't get used very often.
>>
>> Current Stable:
>>
>> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
>> and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
>> allows/inspires it.
>>
>> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
>> flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. 
>> I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
>> geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
>> with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for 
>> expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
>> than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
>> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
>> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bronze Bubbe Build

[Ryan Fleming]

Very tasteful. I do like that bronze color

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:12:16 AM UTC-5, EasyRider wrote:
>
> oops, forgot the jpg file extension.
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 11:02:13 AM UTC-4, EasyRider wrote:
>>
>> I bought one of the bronze Rosco Bubbe frames, and built it up over the 
>> last week. It's inaugural ride was a short trip down the C towpath on 
>> Saturday, and it was great. That big old headtube is a winner for moustache 
>> bars. My thinking behind the 1x8 gearing is to approximate the 40x16 
>> gearing of my fixed/singlespeed in the middle of the cluster, but with a 
>> few gears above and below for windy days. The other 1x Bubbes and Roman's 
>> Hillborne were an inspiration as well.
>>
>> frame: Rivendell Rosco Bubbe road, 53cm
>> saddle: Brooks B17 narrow
>> wheels: Mavic a319 rims, Shimano hubs
>> tires: Panaracer Pasela (non-tourguard) 700x38, black
>> fenders: SKS P50
>> crankset: Sugino VP double, 110bcd
>> BB: UN-55, 118mm spindle
>> pedals: VP-001
>> chainring: All-City, 38t 110 bcd
>> chainguide: Paul chain keeper
>> cassette: Shimano 8-speed, 11-28
>> rear derailleur: Suntour 3040 accushift
>> shifter: Sunrace 9-speed bar end
>> handlebars: Nitto moustache
>> handlebar tape: Fizik superlight
>> stem: Nitto Technomic Deluxe, 70mm
>> Brake levers: Dia-Compe 202 non-aero
>> rack : Rawland Raidoverks Rando rack
>> brakes: Paul touring cantis
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Pearl or C17 Carved

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Sorry about your friend's bike getting stolen here. I've lost a couple over the 
years. It's a horrible feeling. Don't people teach their kids not to steal! 
Didn't they used to hang horse thieves?

Rant over. 

Please look me up if you do make it over here. 

Jay

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ryan Fleming]

Interesting thread!

Bikes I think are elegant ,practical and I will ride and are special

Nothing I have to go into debt for...if I want a bike I'll save for it and 
buy  once other obligations are met. The expectation and parts picking are 
all part of the fun

I have sold bikes for a reasonable sum that another would ride (87 Rossin, 
85 M500 Cannondale) that I  no longer needed or wanted

My N bikes

*Elegant mutts*
1993 X0-1 fairly close to original spec. 24 years and still going strong. 
When I had my bike accident where I ended up with the L1 crushed vertebrae, 
bike was unscathed except for a scrape on the side of the saddle. ...in 
fact I took my first ride on it since my accident last fall . Both bike and 
rider are just fine, thank the fates

1974 PX-10 set up as an SS w moustache bars

*The queens (not garage queens)*

1997 Riv allrounder

2001 Curt Goodrich built Riv custom road bike

2017 Mark Nobilette Custom

At this point I don't have an N+ 1well maybe a ladies' Clem

When I shuffle off this mortal coil , I'll want them out in the world where 
they'll be ridden and loved.  I am not in the least bit  morbid or 
 anything but they are a legacy that I have to consider. I wonder how you 
guys feel about that. Purely a speculative question

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you 
> own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon) 
> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for 
> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to 
> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for me to 
> store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, and 
> neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of the 
> living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
> doesn't get used very often.
>
> Current Stable:
>
> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring and 
> some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride allows/inspires 
> it.
>
> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy flirtation 
> with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. I decided 
> the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the geometry 
> readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all with the 
> Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for expensive 
> cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better than the 
> also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>
> How about you?
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
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Re: [RBW] Bike destinations in Japan and Amsterdam

[Addison Wilhite]

I'm also heading to Amsterdam (and London and Paris) this summer so I'd
love to hear suggestions as well.

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Surlyprof  wrote:

> My wife has re-caught the travel bug and we have someone to live in our
> house and take care of the dogs so we're off to both Japan (Tokyo, Kyoto,
> Kurosawa) and Amsterdam this summer.  These seemed to both be very bikeable
> places (obviously Amsterdam) so I wanted to solicit any suggestions and
> experiences you all may have as to how/where I might rent bikes, biking
> travel suggestions and fun bike sights to check out (and geek out).  Jan's
> post about C.S.Hirose looked really great although I am hesitant to bother
> small shop craftspeople when they are working.  I've thought about taking
> the Brompton but figured there may be easier ways to rent.
>
> Looking forward to your suggestions.
>
> John
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[RBW] Re: seeking Rivendell Saluki reviews...and maybe a lead

[Kellie]

I have both and LOVE both. Both cantis. I've set up the Saluki with drops 
and ride it the longer distances on road (though it's great on fire roads 
with Fatty Rumpkins), and use it on the indoor trainer. The Atlantis get's 
ridden most the time, road and commuting, and all the off-road adventures 
(has 2.1 tires). It has a large Sackville Saddleback, dynamo head and rear. 
 I have a small Sackville saddlesack on the Saluki with a dynamo headlight. 
 The Saluki is 650b and the Atlantis 26'. I love the 650b platform but 
opted for 26" when I had the Atlantis built last Sept. I don't want to part 
with either and feel I have the best 2 bikes for whatever I want to do. 
But, if I had to get rid of one, it'd be the Saluki.







On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:10:53 PM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I cannot get a Rivendell Saluki out of my mind.  I've been watching 
> craigslist nationwide and Ebay, but have never seen any come up for sale 
> since I missed out on that purple one last year.  Were very few made, or 
> are they so cherished that they never go up for sale?  
>
> I've got an Atlantis and feel like I should be perfectly happy with that, 
> as they seem very similar in intentions.  For those that have had both, can 
> you give me any feedback on comparisons?  Am I nuts for wanting both?  (I 
> already have far more bikes than I should.)
>
> While on the topic, does anyone know of a 60cm cantilever Saluki that is 
> for sale?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Beecher
> Oswego, IL
>
>
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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ron Mc]

Hi Ian, thanks - GB Maes, the stem is a 70mm GB Hiduminium.  
I learned along the way, thinking the single braze on shifter boss would 
fit Huret or Simplex.  No go, it's English only, so I have a Cyclo Super on 
the braze on for rear, and a single band-clamp with Huret for the front.  



I bought this as a $100 bare frame and fork, and knew I could build a 
better bike for less than it would cost to buy back the original parts.  

I already had the Cyclone FD + Simplex chainguard sitting around - had been 
thinking about putting it on my old Raleigh, so I'm putting it on an older 
Raleigh.  


On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 11:20:47 AM UTC-5, Ian A wrote:
>
> Another masterpiece - what bars are those Ron? 
>
> IanA. 
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Re: [RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Patrick Moore]

That Nihola looks very nice. Living mostly alone, I have no need for one,
but if i shopped for a family, I'd seriously consider one.

Which reminds me of another niche. A British racing trike with platform
rack for a big bin. You couldn't carry 120 kg, but you could easily carry
40 or 50 lb, and do so without a huge effect on the trike's handling.
*And* when
you removed the box, you'd have another gofast!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Christopher Murray  wrote:

> Current stable:
> 1. Lemond Alpe d'huez- steel, gofast
> 2. Trek 930- steel, commuter
> 3. Rodeo- steel, gofast
> 4. Quickbeam- steel, drop bars
> 5. Brompton- folder
> 6. Raleigh RSW- folder
> 7. Raleigh Twenty- folder
> 8. Nashbar Big Ol Fat Bike- fat bike
> 9. Nihola 4.0- cargo trike
> 10. Bike Friday Pocket Rocket- travel, gofast bike
> 11. BMC StreetRacer- aluminum, gofast
> 12. Kona Team Explosif- steel, commuter
>
> A few other frames and unicycles and that covers it. That's 12+ which is
> way too high for me. I'd keep the two Rivs, the Nihola, and the Brompton if
> I could just snap my fingers and make the rest go away. If I had to pick
> just one it would be the Brompton. I think Thoreau had it about right,
> "these are more easily acquired than got rid of."
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ian A]

Another masterpiece - what bars are those Ron? 

IanA. 

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[RBW] Bike destinations in Japan and Amsterdam

[Surlyprof]

My wife has re-caught the travel bug and we have someone to live in our 
house and take care of the dogs so we're off to both Japan (Tokyo, Kyoto, 
Kurosawa) and Amsterdam this summer.  These seemed to both be very bikeable 
places (obviously Amsterdam) so I wanted to solicit any suggestions and 
experiences you all may have as to how/where I might rent bikes, biking 
travel suggestions and fun bike sights to check out (and geek out).  Jan's 
post about C.S.Hirose looked really great although I am hesitant to bother 
small shop craftspeople when they are working.  I've thought about taking 
the Brompton but figured there may be easier ways to rent. 

Looking forward to your suggestions.

John

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Jim S.]

Jim Bronson:

On the topic of producing too many humans, I justify it with the following 
parenting (not a word until the 1970s) ideology - I just don't think we 
need to take of our children all that well. That is, we need to provide a 
home that's not awful, i.e., a home that could qualify to adopt. But I'm 
firmly convinced that nature, not nurture, determines the outcome. 
Therefore, providing we don't abuse the child, people are what they are at 
the time of conception. If this is the case, then little I do as a parent 
changes the outcome. And if I'm not responsible for changing the outcome 
(once I've provided the DNA), then the hell with it, have as many as we 
can! The pressure for a good outcome is off. The die was cast on conception 
day. 

(As with the number of bikes in the stable, my mother-in-law has in fact 
complained about the number of children.) Would that in-laws could be as 
fungible as bicycles.


On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you 
> own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon) 
> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for 
> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to 
> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for me to 
> store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, and 
> neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of the 
> living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
> doesn't get used very often.
>
> Current Stable:
>
> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring and 
> some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride allows/inspires 
> it.
>
> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy flirtation 
> with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. I decided 
> the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the geometry 
> readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all with the 
> Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for expensive 
> cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better than the 
> also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>
> How about you?
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ron Mc]

Hi Eric, 
The Simplex chainguard is made for a piston FD.  
I figured out how to attach it to a Cyclone FD
This was just a mock-up, BB not yet installed (waiting on a tap to chase 
the thread)



I used an precisely measured M-5 standoff in place of the FD band bolt and 
made a Z-bracket using the Simplex parts that lets me put it anywhere I 
need.  

The correct length standoff is what positions the FD parallogram in the 
chainguard hump




Still waiting on my custom hubs from Phil.  

Can't final position it until I have the drivetrain functioning.  With the 
FD at its outmost travel, cage has to contact inside of chainguard in order 
for the low-Q crankarms to clear the chainguard.  



But I've mocked up everything to know it's going to work.  

I now have the BB and crank installed and need Phil to come through with my 
hubs.  

Already approved by Phil Engr and paid for.  

They're 115mm rear OLD for a 5-sp freewheel with Synergy OC rims to 
minimize wheel dish.  

Come on Michael at Phil...




On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:29:37 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Nice! The chainguard works with a derailleur?
>
> --Eric N
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>
> On Apr 4, 2017, at 7:13 AM, Ron Mc  
> wrote:
>
> I just build up old frames when it strikes my fancy.  
>
>
> 
>
> my way
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[RBW] Re: Clem Rear Hub Dust Cap

[jwd]

Thanks for the advice. Problem solved. Sometimes a little dab of lube goes 
a long way. 


On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 2:56:39 PM UTC-5, jwd wrote:
>
> Have any Clem users had a problem with the dust cap of the rear hub 
> rubbing? I can temporarily stop the rubbing by stretching the rubber back 
> over the hub, but after riding a few miles it starts up again. Is this 
> something that needs to be replaced or is there a possible adjustment that 
> would solve the problem?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Jim Bronson]

I suppose another person might also ask besides the $70K SUV, "Why so
many kids" but that's neither here nor there.

Mother in law probably never asks THAT question.  ;)

p.s.: I love kids and would like more, so don't take it as a personal
attack or anything, just saying, that some people might consider 5
excessive.  I don't.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Jim S.  wrote:
> This is an interesting question. I have a wife and 5 kids. In our garage
> there are, I dunno, 20 bikes or so. The kids all have 2, and there are a
> couple that are in-between kids. My wife and I each have 4, plus there's a
> Brompton. Hell, I guess there must be more than 20.
>
> With that said, I frequently get questions like this: (from crabby
> mother-in-law and also visitors to our back yard who can see into the
> garage) "How many bikes do you have?" with a tone suggesting that having a
> garage full of bikes is somehow inappropriate for some reason.
>
> In response, I feel a need to understate the number of our bikes.
>
> Upon reflection, I'm not sure why I feel this way. Maybe it's my own
> insecurity.
>
> But there are many other items one might own that no one would question -
> i.e., a $70,000 SUV for instance.
>
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Folks:
>>
>> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but
>> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder how
>> folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist camp,
>> but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>>
>> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
>> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you
>> own them?
>>
>> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon)
>> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for
>> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to
>> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for me to
>> store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, and
>> neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of the
>> living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that
>> doesn't get used very often.
>>
>> Current Stable:
>>
>> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring and
>> some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride allows/inspires
>> it.
>>
>> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy flirtation
>> with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. I decided
>> the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the geometry
>> readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all with the
>> Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for expensive
>> cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better than the also
>> admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my erstwhile
>> Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance tourer (if/when
>> I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler.
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Deacon Patrick]

For me, these wear really well. Made for rubbing and abrasion in a way 
denim is not. They are my main knickers now (my wife cuts um and adds 
elastic.)
http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/86125.aspx?kw=fire%20hose%20jeans=content

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Eric Norris]

Nice! The chainguard works with a derailleur?

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> I just build up old frames when it strikes my fancy.  
> 
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[RBW] N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Jon Kaplan]

I'm thinning the herd to a Rambouillet, a repainted Cannondale H300 
Resurecctio, a Rans Rocket recumbent, and eventually a folding gold rush 
replica recumbent.

Now selling Bianchi Milano, Trek Bellaire, Specialized Rockhopper 29th, and 
Surly Long Haul Trucker.  

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

['Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch]

A colleague of mine introduced me to the formula "d-1", d being the number 
of bikes that would lead to a divorce.  So, the right number of bikes is 
one less than would cause a divorce, but one more than you currently have. 
 Hopefully, a number between n+1 and d-1!

Ride Safely,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Velocity Cliffhanger rims + extras

[Philip Kim]

sold thanks!

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:11:31 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> selling velocity cliff hanger - they were bought in anticipation for a 
> Clem, but due to sizing went with an Appaloosa.
>
>
> rims are black, tubeless compatible, msw. these are brand new. 32h for 
> front and rear, 650b /27.5, laced and unlaced, front rim is laced. Asking 
> $100 plus shipping
>
>
> velocity ATB front hub, dt swiss double butted spokes, which are already 
> laced to the front wheel comes with it for free.
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128095434@N02/  for pics
>

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[franklyn]

Such an interesting exercise. For me, it's really a matter of convenient 
storage and mental space, and how my SO's tolerance has changed throughout 
the years.

When I first got into buying and tinkering with bikes, I owned a 
group-living home and there isn't that much bike storage for 6 people. So 
my wife and I had two bikes each--a nice bike and a workhorse since 
bicycles were our primary means of transportation. 

Even after we moved to our current property which has a whole garage for 
storing bike parts, tools, and bikes, we held that number at five combined 
for the two of us for several years, with I getting a third bike to ride 
around my office. I have gone through many bikes, though I always sold one 
before buying another. 

Then my wife got three more bikes (all vintage Treks) for herself (I 
obviously enabled) within a 12-month period to bring her personal total to 
3, which allows me to feel like I can follow suit. So now our total is 10. 

My wife's preference in riding and bikes seems to be pretty 
narrow--pavement-centric, steel, drop bar, vintage Treks. She has three 
go-fast road bikes: 1) 85' hot-pink Trek 770 
, 2) Ebisu 
Road , and 
a 3) 84' Trek 500 
. She also 
has a 4) 650b'ed 1982 Trek 720 
 touring 
bike for our overnight jaunts and camping trips. A 5) 89' Trek 850 
, also 
650b'ed, serves as her daily commute and errand bike nowadays. The touring 
bike and the commuter has dynamo light, fenders, and racks, the other three 
are bare-bone road bikes.

I horse-traded through many bikes, and through that process really have 
discovered my riding preference, and even though all my bikes are fairly 
versatile, they all share certain traits--steel, 650b wheels, low-trail 
front end, racks, fenders, dynamo lighting, relatively thin-tubes, fit at 
least 42mm tires. 

   1. I have a custom Ebisu All-Purpose 
    that I 
   got married on (we had a bike wedding) that still serves as my brevet bike. 
   2. The longest-serving member of the group is a 08' 2nd-gen Kogswell P/R 
    with a 
   porteur rack and bag; it's my workhorse and now has close to 13000 miles. 
   3. 7 years ago I 650b-converted a specialized Sequoia 
    from 
   83' or 84'. I later repainted it vintage pink and turned it into my touring 
   bike. Friend and fellow lister JimG made a custom rack for it. It also has 
   a Kogswell Konversion fork which makes it low-trail
   4. I bought a Rawland rSogn 
    from 
   Bill Lindsay 2-3 years back, and with tires like Switchback Hills and 
   Thunder Burts have really rediscovered the joy of dirt/gravel riding.
   5. This leads me to my newest, not-yet-here bike, which comes to me via 
   a friend. It's a Fitz custom 
    too big for him 
   that was built around the 48mm tire size with fenders. I can't wait to 
   build it up this Summer. 

I suppose I don't have a true mountain bike, though all of my bikes are 
capable of doing mixed-terrain with the rSogn and the Fitz having wider 
range of suitability. If I were to buy a mountain bike for more rocky/muddy 
stuff, it'd probably be a steel Jones. I have yet able to cross the mental 
line on: disc brakes, suspension, thru-axle, fat-bikes, carbon forks. A lot 
of these lines have to do with my unfamiliarity with repairing and 
maintaining these newer parts, parts interchangeability among all our bikes 
(which relates to bike parts inventory hording/optimization)

Franklyn

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:24:18 AM UTC-7, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you 
> own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon) 
> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for 
> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to 
> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for me to 
> store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, and 
> neither my wife nor 

[RBW] wtb: Nitto stem 90mm (Nitto Technomic Deluxe or Tallux)

[Eric]

My eyes are peeled for a 90mm stem.

Thanks!! 

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[John Stowe]

I have had no issues with staining from my "natural" (undyed) leather 
Brooks. I still wear through crotches on a regular basis, though, even on 
the smooth leather - I just had to "retire" (to gardening duty) another 
pair of shorts last week.

-John


On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ron Mc]

I just build up old frames when it strikes my fancy.  



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[RBW] FS: Velocity Cliffhanger rims + extras

[Philip Kim]

selling velocity cliff hanger - they were bought in anticipation for a 
Clem, but due to sizing went with an Appaloosa.


rims are black, tubeless compatible, msw. these are brand new. 32h for 
front and rear, 650b /27.5, laced and unlaced, front rim is laced. Asking 
$100 plus shipping


velocity ATB front hub, dt swiss double butted spokes, which are already 
laced to the front wheel comes with it for free.



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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Edwin W]

Jim,

That is just like my situation! Here in Nashville there are so many garages 
that eclipse my bike collection in value with just one car and nobody 
blinks an eye, but mothers/mothers in law types seem to be interested in 
how many bikes I have!
I have a bunch of kids bikes and a few in the shed which is not where I am 
living now and so never ride, like an old Schwinn tandem, a fix-ified 
Raleigh sprite, an old GT Avalanche MTB on loan to a friend, and in our 
basement but rarely used is a Dahon Boardwalk single speed guest bike. 
All I am really using right now is:

1. appaloosa - ride everywhere, do everything
2. Workcycles Fr8 - go anywhere around town with 1-3 kids.

But I fantasize about a "gofast"(er than the Appaloosa) like an old UJB 
with good clearance, or a fancier low trail randonneur bike. I almost never 
make it to single track biking, but I also fantasize about having a bike to 
do that with, nothing out of this world, but like a 1x10 650b bike with 3" 
tires.

After having so many kids bikes in 12", 16", 20", 24", 26" and 700 and 
trying them to make them either like my appaloosa or like the racy bikes 
they want, I have concluded that going forward the most practical thing for 
middle schoolers and up is a "monster cross" type cross bike that can take 
45mm tires and drop bars and go anywhere. But that might be another thread: 
"how to keep your kids to one bike per kid"!

Edwin

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 8:41:20 AM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>
> This is an interesting question. I have a wife and 5 kids. In our garage 
> there are, I dunno, 20 bikes or so. The kids all have 2, and there are a 
> couple that are in-between kids. My wife and I each have 4, plus there's a 
> Brompton. Hell, I guess there must be more than 20.
>
> With that said, I frequently get questions like this: (from crabby 
> mother-in-law and also visitors to our back yard who can see into the 
> garage) "How many bikes do you have?" with a tone suggesting that having a 
> garage full of bikes is somehow inappropriate for some reason. 
>
> In response, I feel a need to understate the number of our bikes. 
>
> Upon reflection, I'm not sure why I feel this way. Maybe it's my own 
> insecurity.
>
> But there are many other items one might own that no one would question - 
> i.e., a $70,000 SUV for instance. 
>
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Folks:
>>
>> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
>> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
>> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
>> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>>
>> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
>> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do 
>> you own them? 
>>
>> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will 
>> (soon) bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of 
>> bikes for a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding 
>> enough to justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for 
>> me to store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, 
>> and neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of 
>> the living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
>> doesn't get used very often.
>>
>> Current Stable:
>>
>> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring 
>> and some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride 
>> allows/inspires it.
>>
>> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy 
>> flirtation with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. 
>> I decided the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the 
>> geometry readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all 
>> with the Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for 
>> expensive cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better 
>> than the also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
>> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
>> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>>
>> How about you?
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Joe Gates]

>
> Right now for me N = 6.  With a garage and a full basement for storage, 
> there is room for more, but at the time i cannot think of what niche i need 
> to fill and feel i have an embarrassment of riches in the bikes i already 
> own.  I think the near future might see the number drop to 5.  


The current stable for me includes:
Lynskey R230 - my go fast bike.  Described by Lynskey as being good for all 
day riding it actually has some Rivish qualities with a sloping top tube to 
allow the handlebars to be up higher and a little more tire clearance than 
the Trek below.  
1981.5 Trek 759 - My first classic lugged made in the USA Trek.  I picked 
this up on eBay in 2011 because i have always had a thing for early Trek 
bikes (perhaps fueled by too much time spent on (www.vintage-treks.com). 
 Since this is classified as a racing frame it overlaps with the Lynskey 
and was not seeing much use.  When i finally discovered biking in the 
mountains i built this bike up with a compact crankset and use it for those 
hill climbing rides.
1985 Trek 620 - have always loved the Trek 720 and 620 so when this one 
popped up on eBay i grabbed it. Bonus that s previous owner had changed out 
most of the original components so i did not have to suffer the guilt of 
updating it to my own preferences.  This was to become my wide tire 
accepting, comfortable to ride, do everything bike until i acquired...
1996 Rivendell All Rounder - I had been searching for an Atlantis, but when 
i found this on Craigslist it appeared to be a better fit for my riding 
style.  I would probably not use the Atlantis to its full potential and 
what i really wanted was to have a roadish bike that accepted wider tires 
and racks for comfortable all day riding with the ability to go off road if 
the opportunity arose.  I had it repainted and retro fit with couplers to 
become my travel bike.  Since getting this built up, it is the bike i have 
ridden the most and probably the one i would keep if (heaven forbid) i 
could only have one.  
1995 GT Tequesta - I built this up as a poor man's Rivendell long before 
acquiring a Rivendell of my own.  I told myself i would get rid of this 
once i acquired the All Rounder, but i have not been able to bring myself 
to part with it.  It is too fun to ride (though it has not seen much use in 
the past year).  This is likely the one that will go first as my aim in 
filling out the stable has been to try to buy American made when possible 
which makes this the odd road bike out.  However, it might be repurposed as 
a mountain bike to replace the one Aluminum frame in the stable...
Old Supergo branded aluminum framed mountain bike - saw a lot of action in 
the 1990s, but i do not mountain bike much these days.  With young children 
i have a harder time loading the bike in the car to drive to the trails 
than simply taking another bike out and riding right from home.  Perhaps 
one day it will see more use again.  

Joe 

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[RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Jim S.]

This is an interesting question. I have a wife and 5 kids. In our garage 
there are, I dunno, 20 bikes or so. The kids all have 2, and there are a 
couple that are in-between kids. My wife and I each have 4, plus there's a 
Brompton. Hell, I guess there must be more than 20.

With that said, I frequently get questions like this: (from crabby 
mother-in-law and also visitors to our back yard who can see into the 
garage) "How many bikes do you have?" with a tone suggesting that having a 
garage full of bikes is somehow inappropriate for some reason. 

In response, I feel a need to understate the number of our bikes. 

Upon reflection, I'm not sure why I feel this way. Maybe it's my own 
insecurity.

But there are many other items one might own that no one would question - 
i.e., a $70,000 SUV for instance. 


On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:24:18 AM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
>
> Hey Folks:
>
> I know threads somewhat similar to this pop up every now and again, but 
> Ryan's question to Eric in the Rivendell Road SOLD thread made me wonder 
> how folks settle on their stable size. I fall squarely in the minimalist 
> camp, but I'm guessing others here probably don't. So:
>
> 1. How do you settle on what N equals for you? (N+1, I know, I know...)
> 2. What bikes do you currently own/have in regular rotation and why do you 
> own them? 
>
> My stable is currently at one because of a recent sale, but it will (soon) 
> bump back up to two. I settled on two as the acceptable number of bikes for 
> a number of reasons, but mostly because I can't imagine riding enough to 
> justify having any more of them. We also don't have the space for me to 
> store any additional bikes aside from in a somewhat humid basement, and 
> neither my wife nor myself would appreciate more bikes in the corner of the 
> living room as we're not big fans of clutter, especially clutter that 
> doesn't get used very often.
>
> Current Stable:
>
> 1. 2009 Sam Hillborne (canti): Used mostly for road riding and touring and 
> some occasional single track and forest roads if the ride allows/inspires 
> it.
>
> 2. 2017 Surly Troll: I settled on the new Troll after a lengthy flirtation 
> with the idea of buying a Crust Evasion and other bikes as well. I decided 
> the Troll is better for my needs for a number of reasons: the geometry 
> readily accepts a Jones H-Bar, 2x is easy vs. not doable at all with the 
> Evasion, and my desired 26x3.0 setup doesn't require the need for expensive 
> cranksets. It's also $300 cheaper and I like the maroon better than the 
> also admittedly pretty Evasion color. It will take the place of my 
> erstwhile Krampus as my mountain bike, off-road tourer, long distance 
> tourer (if/when I get to do that!), kid trailer, and stuff hauler. 
>
> How about you?
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
>

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[RBW] Rovendell Romulus Modifications

[Jonathan D.]

Weth - your conversion has gotten me thinking and then I saw a comment I think 
from Grant comparing the Sam Hillborne to the Romulus, except for wheel size. 
Have your ridden and Sam and can you compare?  

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[RBW] Re: Bronze Bubbe Build

[Chris Birkenmaier]

dstein, photos please?

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 12:32:07 AM UTC-4, dstein wrote:
>
> Nice build! Welcome to the club. There's only 11 of us bronze rosco bubbe 
> folks, or will be once they all sell. I love mine, it's been my go to bike 
> since I got it.
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:02:13 AM UTC-7, EasyRider wrote:
>>
>> I bought one of the bronze Rosco Bubbe frames, and built it up over the 
>> last week. It's inaugural ride was a short trip down the C towpath on 
>> Saturday, and it was great. That big old headtube is a winner for moustache 
>> bars. My thinking behind the 1x8 gearing is to approximate the 40x16 
>> gearing of my fixed/singlespeed in the middle of the cluster, but with a 
>> few gears above and below for windy days. The other 1x Bubbes and Roman's 
>> Hillborne were an inspiration as well.
>>
>> frame: Rivendell Rosco Bubbe road, 53cm
>> saddle: Brooks B17 narrow
>> wheels: Mavic a319 rims, Shimano hubs
>> tires: Panaracer Pasela (non-tourguard) 700x38, black
>> fenders: SKS P50
>> crankset: Sugino VP double, 110bcd
>> BB: UN-55, 118mm spindle
>> pedals: VP-001
>> chainring: All-City, 38t 110 bcd
>> chainguide: Paul chain keeper
>> cassette: Shimano 8-speed, 11-28
>> rear derailleur: Suntour 3040 accushift
>> shifter: Sunrace 9-speed bar end
>> handlebars: Nitto moustache
>> handlebar tape: Fizik superlight
>> stem: Nitto Technomic Deluxe, 70mm
>> Brake levers: Dia-Compe 202 non-aero
>> rack : Rawland Raidoverks Rando rack
>> brakes: Paul touring cantis
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Robert Keal]

Ron,

How do you decide how many non-Chinese non-cut cookies to not import, and
which non-Chinese non-cut cookies that you didn't import are currently in
your rotation?

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Rovendell Romulus Modifications

[WETH]

Jonathan,
I have albatross bars and 650b wheels on my Romulus.  I love it for light 
touring and commuting as well as pleasure rides on paved surfaces.  I use my 
Cheviot for heavy loads and longer riding on dirt and gravel.
If I didn't have a Cheviot, I would have bought the 55 Appaloosa Grant featured 
on his Blahg.
An Appaloosa and Romulus would be a great combo!
All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[John A. Bennett]

For those jeans, you can always send them 
to: http://www.indigoproof.com/repair-your-jeans/denim-repair-1

Rain, the owner, works magic here in Portland with vintage sewing machines. 

JAB @ Rivelo in PDX

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 7:56:28 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Kevin Lindsey]

I second the Rivet.  I have one on my Hunq and another on a Moots go-fast, 
and love 'em.  They're a bit pricey but comfortable and, so far, no 
evidence of bleed.
Kevin


On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 7:31:37 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Rivet. Debbie's great to work with and the saddles are brilliant. I ride a 
> Diablo on both my Hunqa and QB. One white, one black. No bleed ever.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>>
>> Hi all-
>>
>> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne 
>> commuter. I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in 
>> very short order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty 
>> badly). I'd love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but 
>> this is my main mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in 
>> my everyday clothes.
>>
>> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
>> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
>> distances, as this is my city ride.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Deacon Patrick]

Rivet. Debbie's great to work with and the saddles are brilliant. I ride a 
Diablo on both my Hunqa and QB. One white, one black. No bleed ever.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 8:56:28 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Ron Mc]

simple - I don't import Chinese cut cookies

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[RBW] Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I too have found the WTB saddles quite comfortable. The Pure is about 148mm 
across the back (from memory), and like Brooks has a flat back and a fore-aft 
dip. The make four different Pure saddles starting at about $40.

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[RBW] Re: Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Johnny Alien]

While the covers will work it seems silly to have a saddle that you can't 
use without a cover on it.  Saddles are a personal thing but my usual go to 
when it isn't a Brooks is a Fizik Aliante on a road bike and a WTB saddle 
for almost anything else.  They are well made, comfortable, cheap and 
light.  The Rocket is the one I usually go to and they start as low as $40.

On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:56:28 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. 
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short 
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd 
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main 
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday 
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: seeking Rivendell Saluki reviews...and maybe a lead

[KenP]

Hi Matt,
   I have a 53 Rivendell All Rounder with 26inch wheels, which is like an 
Atlantis, and a 54 650B Saluki. I like both.  The Saluki feels taller and 
steadier and lighter.  The All Rounder feels more sluggish but quick in the 
turns, and stronger and takes wider tires with fenders.  Lately I have been 
commuting with the All Rounder because there is a steep road with lots of 
potholes, patches, and speed bumps.  I have taken the Saluki on long trips 
on the GAP trail and the C Canal; It has racks and lots of bottle cages 
and it is perfect for those trips. One thing: get the right size, because I 
bought one of the first Salukies in a size 50 and even though I rode it 
comfortably for two years, I eventually traded for the 54 which fit me much 
better.  Hope you find your size.
Ken

On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 7:10:53 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I cannot get a Rivendell Saluki out of my mind.  I've been watching 
> craigslist nationwide and Ebay, but have never seen any come up for sale 
> since I missed out on that purple one last year.  Were very few made, or 
> are they so cherished that they never go up for sale?  
>
> I've got an Atlantis and feel like I should be perfectly happy with that, 
> as they seem very similar in intentions.  For those that have had both, can 
> you give me any feedback on comparisons?  Am I nuts for wanting both?  (I 
> already have far more bikes than I should.)
>
> While on the topic, does anyone know of a 60cm cantilever Saluki that is 
> for sale?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Beecher
> Oswego, IL
>
>
>

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