Re: [RBW] PSA Single Speed Sacramento $650

[drew]

Thank god this would take too much work to figure out how to buy and get 
shipped to me.

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Re: [RBW] PSA Single Speed Sacramento $650

[Eric Norris]

I’m almost tempted to buy it and flip it (the bike, not the rear wheel). That’s 
a great price.

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> On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Jonathan D.  wrote:
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> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/6213605512.html
> 
> Just thought I would share. I wish I could. 
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[RBW] Re: Delight of rain

[Ash A]

My hour long bike commute to work in Bay Area vs Patrick's thunderstorm 
ride in Colorado - my gut feel is that chances of me getting hit by a 
driver browsing Facebook on their phone is much higher than Patrick getting 
struck by lightning.  His ride seems less risky and more fun!

>From safety standpoint both activities are better avoided or enjoyed in 
moderation :)


On Sunday, 9 July 2017 14:41:36 UTC-7, Mojo wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
> I hope you will reconsider your behavior during thunderstorms. The facts 
> don't support your lackadaisical view of lightning.
>  http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/
> Lightning is the number one weather related killer in Colorado. Even when 
> folks are not killed by a lightning strike, it can alter and diminish the 
> remainder of their life.
> http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lls/fatalities_us.html 
> Living at 9000ft, your risk of lightning strike is enhanced over the 
> Colorado state average.
>
> Lightning is NOT at all predictable where it will strike. As a NWS 
> forecaster giving presentations on the subject, I used to say "lightning is 
> very powerful but very lazy." It will always find the easiest path to 
> discharge. Yes the probabilities are greatest for higher elevations during 
> the afternoon hours, but that doesn't mean probabilities are zero for lower 
> elevations during the morning or evening.
>
> Be safe out there!
> Joe in GJT
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> Ha, George! If I followed that advice I'd not go on rides from April 
>> through September. Grin. Fortunately, lightening is predictable in what it 
>> like to hit. Stay low 'cause it likes to aim high. Don't straddle anything 
>> steel, er, because it is attracted to conductiv ... ZAP! CRACK! CRISP! Grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 1:27:06 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>>>
>>> Long as you're not out in it during one of those thunderstorms, that is. 
>>> Lightning, especially at those altitudes, can be very lethal and it can 
>>> strike a long way from where the storm appears to be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 1:45:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Yesterday was hot for around here. 84˚F at 9,000 feet. Riding home the 
 thunderclouds that had been building since noon broke loose. Unlike most 
 storms, this one didn’t drop the temperature into the 40’s or 50’s. It 
 stayed in the upper 70’s. I left my rain jacket in my bag and delighted in 
 the wet soaking my cotton shirt, cooling me off. Combined with the 
 delicious scents of rain, ozone, flashing lightening and rumbling thunder 
 coming down and mixing with earth, sage, flowers, pine, and aspen, it was 
 a 
 veritable feast.

 This morning, the sun was out, the ground moist and pocked , fresh and 
 giving off the smell of summer loam of long decay, pine, and growth in the 
 warmth. Pockets of air still cool from the moist night air tantalized as 
 at 
 rode through them, lingering by slowing my pedaling.

 After weeks of hot and dusty grit, these two rides were spectacularly 
 refreshing.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 www.CredoFamily.org
 www.MindYourHeadCoop.org




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[RBW] Re: Delight of rain

[Ash A]

I grew up in a place where the entire rainy season (as we called it), about 
5 months, the temperature used to be in 70's or 80's even during heavy 
rains (which was quite frequent and lasted hours).  I've spent a lot of 
time out in monsoon rains.

I got goosebumps imagining being out there in that environment!

As they say, heaven is on earth!  



On Sunday, 9 July 2017 11:45:03 UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Yesterday was hot for around here. 84˚F at 9,000 feet. Riding home the 
> thunderclouds that had been building since noon broke loose. Unlike most 
> storms, this one didn’t drop the temperature into the 40’s or 50’s. It 
> stayed in the upper 70’s. I left my rain jacket in my bag and delighted in 
> the wet soaking my cotton shirt, cooling me off. Combined with the 
> delicious scents of rain, ozone, flashing lightening and rumbling thunder 
> coming down and mixing with earth, sage, flowers, pine, and aspen, it was a 
> veritable feast.
>
> This morning, the sun was out, the ground moist and pocked , fresh and 
> giving off the smell of summer loam of long decay, pine, and growth in the 
> warmth. Pockets of air still cool from the moist night air tantalized as at 
> rode through them, lingering by slowing my pedaling.
>
> After weeks of hot and dusty grit, these two rides were spectacularly 
> refreshing.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Beautiful 58cm Green Rivendell Rambouillet

[B Young]

SOLD!

Thank you everybody!

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[RBW] Re: PSA Single Speed Sacramento $650

[Davey Two Shoes]

ugh, too big :(

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 8:39:00 PM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/6213605512.html
>
> Just thought I would share. I wish I could. 
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[RBW] PSA Single Speed Sacramento $650

[Max S]

Deal of he year right there. Wow. 

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[RBW] PSA Single Speed Sacramento $650

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Seems cheap 

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[RBW] the sunflower ride...

[WETH]

Thanks for sharing. You had a beautiful day for the ride.  The blue sky 
contrasting with the sunflowers was perfect.  
Any details on the camera that created the video?
Thanks again,
Erl

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[RBW] PSA Single Speed Sacramento $650

[Jonathan D.]

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/6213605512.html

Just thought I would share. I wish I could. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[Kevin Lindsey]

I'm also 5'10" (PBH 87.5 cm, I think), and I believe the preferred AHH for 
my size is 59.  Clearly, this one is made for you.
Kevin

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 3:20:17 PM UTC-4, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
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> In my search for...well any interesting Riv in my size I came across 
> this...too big for me at 5'10 but maybe one of you can snatch up this deal.
>
> https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/6156204453.html
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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Kellie]

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 4:24:28 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Yes, Velocity Cliffhanger is tubeless ready and I love them.  Also a 
> little wider rim to take advantage of "cush." I just happened to have 
> converted to tubeless this weekend with Rat Trap Pass. Here's a photo of 
> those rims:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:56:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>>
>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
>> significant chunk of money. 
>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, 
>> so I'm pretty ignorant here. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Kellie]

Yes, Velocity Cliffhanger is tubeless ready and I love them.  Also a little 
wider rim to take advantage of "cush." I just happened to have converted to 
tubeless this weekend with Rat Trap Pass. Here's a photo of those rims:





On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 6:56:23 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
> significant chunk of money. 
> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, so 
> I'm pretty ignorant here. 

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[RBW] Re: Pedaling the upper Mississippi

[Garth]

  Yep, the upper MS valley area is awesome to drive or ride Marc !!  The 
area between La Crosse and Red Wing is what I am most familiar with. There 
are tons of routes inland. We lived near there and visited often, once you 
get a open vista to the river and valley it takes the breath away indeed.  
 
  In the fall the Leidel's roadside apple stand has the some incredible 
apples you'll never find in a retailer, and there are orchards all over SE 
MN. 

  I found the direct link for those like Jim and I w/o the login stuff 
. 
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2017/07/pedaling-upper-mississippi.html

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Re: [RBW] PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[drew]

If you're close, and you're looking for that type of bike, you should 
definitely test ride it. It's a very solid deal. Not sure I could tell much of 
a difference between most 56,57 and 58cm bikes

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Re: [RBW] PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[Tim Butterfield]

It's certainly a possible.  That size PBH is approximately 1/4" less than
mine (0.275591").  If I measure my AHH seat post vertically instead of at
the seat tube angle, that would put the saddle rails almost 3" above the
top of the seat post bolt. The top of my top tube in front of the saddle is
about 32 1/4" above my carpet.  The current geometry chart shows a size 57
AHH having a 82cm standover height, which is 32.2835".   It fits an 83 pbh
at either a 56 or 57.  So, it could be either a 57 with less seat post
showing as just mentioned or a 56, if you find one, with more showing.
Maybe the data can help you focus the fit probability a little further.

Tim

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Davey Two Shoes 
wrote:

> My pbh is 83.1.  I have short legs and long torso. What do you think guys?
> New bike day?
>
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[Davey Two Shoes]

My pbh is 83.1.  I have short legs and long torso. What do you think guys? 
New bike day?

>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Clem Smith Jr H Style 52

[Kai Vierstra]

What was the defect? I just set some Big Ones up tubeless, 1 that I had from 
awhile back in the rear and 1 new for the front from Jenson that I purchased 
when they were closing them out at $25. The Jenson had two pinholes on the 
sidewall that had an extremely hard time sealing with the Stan's sealant. It 
worked in the end but was pretty frustrating. Just got back from a week of 
beach adventures, no flats, sper fun tires.
-Kai
BK NY 

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[RBW] the sunflower ride...

[Eunice Chang]

Heya.

Been a while since I checked in this list...popped in to share a video of
my recent ride on Neuse River Trail to the sunflower field in Raleigh, NC.
They're grown out of wastewater and used for biodiesel. Thumper (my AHH)
makes an appearance, and Serenity (QB) is there as well, though you can't
see it- the ride is filmed from QB. :) If you like nature documentaries,
you'll enjoy this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rztruswZnrc

(No sound, but just as well as Thumper made some very loud gear shifting
sounds).

-E.

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Re: [RBW] PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[Tim Butterfield]

I'm 5'10" also and was sized at a 57 when I ordered my AHH last year.  It
fits me well.  My PBH is 83.8 and I have just a bit less than a fist full
of seat post showing.

Tim

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 12:59 PM, drew  wrote:

> You sure it won't fit? I'm 5'10 and that would be my preferred size.
>

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Re: [RBW] Pedaling the upper Mississippi

[Jim Bronson]

It says my current account (the one I am using to write this email)
doesn't have access to this page.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Marc Irwin  wrote:
> I thought some of you might enjoy this trip I just completed.
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[RBW] PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[drew]

You sure it won't fit? I'm 5'10 and that would be my preferred size. 

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[RBW] PSA: AHH in tuscon ($1500)

[Davey Two Shoes]

In my search for...well any interesting Riv in my size I came across 
this...too big for me at 5'10 but maybe one of you can snatch up this deal.

https://tucson.craigslist.org/bik/6156204453.html

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[RBW] Pedaling the upper Mississippi

[Marc Irwin]

I thought some of you might enjoy this trip I just completed. 


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[RBW] Re: Delight of rain

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

These days, on nearly all major construction projects (I'm an ironworker so I'm 
speaking of outdoors, with structural steel), if lightning has struck within 
8-10 miles, workers are supposed to be "under cover" for 20-30 minutes after 
the last strike. The safety department monitors this with a lightning detector. 
How accurate these are, I can't say, but that's what they use. I've been in the 
business for 38 years and that didn't happen (at least I hadn't seen it) until 
around 10-12 years ago. We were just left to use common sense (a characteristic 
with which ironworkers aren't always given much).  I'm more like Patrick, and, 
although, I don't like riding in thunderstorms and try to avoid them, it's not 
a deal breaker. It was 90 degrees today by 12:30 with 65% humidity when I 
finished a 3 hour ride. I would have welcomed one! Thanks for the report 
Patrick.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Deerhead, other old Shimano, dyno wheels, SS wheels, Nitto parts, WI, Campagnolo

[Patch T]

"cheapo black super riser *stem *not *rim*!"

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[RBW] FS: Deerhead, other old Shimano, dyno wheels, SS wheels, Nitto parts, WI, Campagnolo

[Patch T]

Moving across country soon, have some things to sell. Will consider 
reasonable offers. Prices *do not* include shipping, which is from 90036.

PHOTOS 

Thanks for looking!

Patch


-- 700c DYNO WHEEL #1: Shimano N72, Mavic Open Pro 32H, purchased used *$50*
-- 700c DYNO WHEEL #2: Shimano N80, Mavic Open Sport 32H, recent purchased 
new, used once, from Rich Lesnik *$125*
-- 700c REAR SS WHEEL: Suzue hub, 120mm, 32H, Mavic Open Pro, no quick 
release *$75*
-- 700c REAR SS WHEEL: Origin8 hub, 120mm, 32H, Mavic Open Pro, bolt-on 
*$75*
-- White Industries Dos Eno 16/18 freewheel, used but in great condition 
*$60*
-- SunTour non-aero levers, small size, scratches *$20*
-- UNO dirt drop stem, black, 60mm, 25.4, like new *$10*
-- NITTO dirt drop stem, 80mm, 25.4, used, with scratches *$40*
-- Campagnolo Strada cranks, bolts & dustcaps (Brev), 170mm; no rings; from 
1983 *$50*
-- Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur pat 84 *$50*
-- Shimano XTR M910 rear derailleur, medium cage *$50*
-- Shimano Deore XT M736 front derailleur, top-pull, 28.6 *$15*
-- cheapo black super riser rim 90mm, 25.4 *$5*
-- Dimension black riser stem 110mm, 25.4 *$10*
-- Origin8 silver stem 120mm, 25.4 *$15*
-- VO stem 110mm, 25.4 *$20*
-- MKS toeclips with hardware, used *$10*
-- Shimano M700 Deerhead complete group, taken off a 1985 Trek 850, overall 
very good but not cosmetically perfect condition, minor rust in some 
hardware, scratches on some parts; would prefer not to part out, but will 
consider buying multiples; can email more detailed photos if interested; I 
have the wheels too *$150*

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[RBW] Re: Delight of rain

[Deacon Patrick]

Oh! Wonderful to hear, Andrew. I was beginning to wonder if I didn't know 
how to write. Grin. It looks and feels like we're heading into our summer 
monsoon season. Never called it that growing up. Back then it was just 
summer. Sure sounds dramatic though. Monsoon ... in Colorado! Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-6, Andrew Patteson wrote:
>
> Patrick,
>
> I loved your joyful post and the vivid details.  It made me want to ride 
> my bike.
>
> Best wishes,
> Andrew in Salt Lake City, where we could use some of those storms
>

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[RBW] Re: Front loads on Rivendell bicycles -- how heavy?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for the anecdotes; interesting to compare my experience with yours
(plural). I guess a great deal of "what works" comes down to "what I
prefer." Me, I find that all the Rivs I've owned (5) handle "better" with
rear loads if the load is "heavy" -- over 20 lb. 3 customs, Sam, Ram.

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[RBW] Re: (Pic Heavy) Quickbeam Campy Fixed Gear Flip Flop

[Davey Two Shoes]

I want one of those bikes so bad!
>
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[RBW] Re: Delight of rain

[Andrew Patteson]

Patrick,

I loved your joyful post and the vivid details.  It made me want to ride my 
bike.

Best wishes,
Andrew in Salt Lake City, where we could use some of those storms



On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 4:04:17 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Sorry to cause concern and give the impression of being lackadaisical 
> about lightening. Far from it. I don't avoid thunderstorms, as that isn't 
> possible if one is outdoors. I am, however, as safe as I know to be in 
> them. I simply wanted to share the joy of the rides in the rain. My 
> apologies.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 3:41:36 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> I hope you will reconsider your behavior during thunderstorms. The facts 
>> don't support your lackadaisical view of lightning.
>>  http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/
>> Lightning is the number one weather related killer in Colorado. Even when 
>> folks are not killed by a lightning strike, it can alter and diminish the 
>> remainder of their life.
>> http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_lls/fatalities_us.html 
>> Living at 9000ft, your risk of lightning strike is enhanced over the 
>> Colorado state average.
>>
>> Lightning is NOT at all predictable where it will strike. As a NWS 
>> forecaster giving presentations on the subject, I used to say "lightning is 
>> very powerful but very lazy." It will always find the easiest path to 
>> discharge. Yes the probabilities are greatest for higher elevations during 
>> the afternoon hours, but that doesn't mean probabilities are zero for lower 
>> elevations during the morning or evening.
>>
>> Be safe out there!
>> Joe in GJT
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 2:15:29 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>>> Ha, George! If I followed that advice I'd not go on rides from April 
>>> through September. Grin. Fortunately, lightening is predictable in what it 
>>> like to hit. Stay low 'cause it likes to aim high. Don't straddle anything 
>>> steel, er, because it is attracted to conductiv ... ZAP! CRACK! CRISP! Grin.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 1:27:06 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:

 Long as you're not out in it during one of those thunderstorms, that 
 is. Lightning, especially at those altitudes, can be very lethal and it 
 can 
 strike a long way from where the storm appears to be.


 On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 1:45:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Yesterday was hot for around here. 84˚F at 9,000 feet. Riding home the 
> thunderclouds that had been building since noon broke loose. Unlike most 
> storms, this one didn’t drop the temperature into the 40’s or 50’s. It 
> stayed in the upper 70’s. I left my rain jacket in my bag and delighted 
> in 
> the wet soaking my cotton shirt, cooling me off. Combined with the 
> delicious scents of rain, ozone, flashing lightening and rumbling thunder 
> coming down and mixing with earth, sage, flowers, pine, and aspen, it was 
> a 
> veritable feast.
>
> This morning, the sun was out, the ground moist and pocked , fresh and 
> giving off the smell of summer loam of long decay, pine, and growth in 
> the 
> warmth. Pockets of air still cool from the moist night air tantalized as 
> at 
> rode through them, lingering by slowing my pedaling.
>
> After weeks of hot and dusty grit, these two rides were spectacularly 
> refreshing.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Jim Bronson]

The Atlas is more like a stouter Synergy, the rims look almost
identical.  I have a mixed Synergy/Atlas wheelset (F/R).  After I
cracked the rear Synergy, Velocity rebuilt the wheel with an Atlas.  I
removed the labels on both and you really can't tell the difference.

No issues since the rebuild.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:21 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> Yeah, I think the cliffhanger is the way to go for anyone wanting strong,
> wide, rim brake compatible rims.  I think the atlas are just stouter dyads,
> which I've found to be too narrow for 50+mm tires.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>> I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're fantastic,
>> and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake ready.
>> -Kai
>> BK NY
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was
>>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering
>>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a
>>> significant chunk of money.
>>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking,
>>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim.
>>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out,
>>> so I'm pretty ignorant here.
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Re: [RBW] PSA: $34 Roadeo

[Jim Bronson]

He is also a terrible photographer.  Macro is lost on him.

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/6210292394.html
> Not really (although that is what the ad says).  I was going to post this a 
> week or so ago because it was $1300 which I thought was a great deal. 
> Unfortunately not my size.  Now they seem to be selling it for $600 today, 
> $750 tomorrow and the back to $1300.
>
> Good luck to you taller bay area folks.
>
> John
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[RBW] PSA: $34 Roadeo

[Joe Bernard]

That guy's annoying. I thought about driving over to nab it, keep some parts 
and maybe make a little cash reselling the frame, but then I would have to talk 
to Mr. No Bike Snobs. Nope. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

[Scott Blouke]

I am really happy with 36h 650b Cliffhangers they are stout, built up easy, 
nice and wide and were amazingly easy to setup some thunder burts up 
tubeless for my Bombadil.

On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 5:21:02 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Yeah, I think the cliffhanger is the way to go for anyone wanting strong, 
> wide, rim brake compatible rims.  I think the atlas are just stouter dyads, 
> which I've found to be too narrow for 50+mm tires.  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>>
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
>> I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're 
>> fantastic, and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake 
>> ready. 
>> -Kai
>> BK NY
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
>>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
>>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
>>> significant chunk of money. 
>>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
>>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
>>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, 
>>> so I'm pretty ignorant here. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Front loads on Rivendell bicycles -- how heavy?

[Tim Gavin]

I've used lowrider panniers on a Nitto Campee front rack on my Riv Road
Standard.  I had a similar experience to you; the front end gets extremely
stable but resistant to turn.  I adapted by leaning more instead of turning
the bars.  I found I really liked the way that handled on tour, compared to
a rear-biased load.
But, the same bike doesn't like more than about 10 lbs on the top of the
front wheel (bag or basket on a Mark's rack), unless lowriders are equipped
to balance it out.

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I realize that different models will handle different loads differently,
> but I'm curious about how much weight all y'all carry in lowrider panniers
> -- less interested in basket loads or front rando bag loads, though
> interested all the same.
>
> On my '03 26" wheel Road, which I find delightfully somewhat bit quicker
> to turn-in than the Ram, though almost -- not quite -- as rock solid stable
> in a straight line, about 20 lbs more or less equally balanced in front
> lowriding panniers seems to be a kind of limit; steering is heavy and you'd
> not want to do a slalom, but it's not bad. (This is with the 20 lb in
> front, nothing in back.) Better is about 15 total. 21-22 lb front load
> today.
>
> I recall, as an experiment, very quickly adjourned, putting, what, at
> least 40 lb in front lowriders on my 56 cm single tt Sam (I had Dave Porter
> add lowrider braze ons). I used 1 gallon and half gallon milk jugs full of
> water, at about 8 lb to the gallon. No rear load.
>
> Man! That was very odd! The bike was so stable it practically stood up by
> itself, but it was almost impossible to turn!
>
> What's all y'all's experience with lowriding front loads on your
> Rivendells?
>
> I once, perversely, put 56 lb of cinderblocks in a Wald Newsboy on the
> front of a Schwinn Traveler or somesuch, turned into a short distance
> grocery bike with North Road bar, fixed gear. That was different! The big
> problem was keeping the rear wheel on the ground. My N D Neighbor has had
> the bike for almost 10 years now, with rear panniers, as his short distance
> grocery bike.
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[RBW] Re: Atlas-like but tubeless

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yeah, I think the cliffhanger is the way to go for anyone wanting strong, 
wide, rim brake compatible rims.  I think the atlas are just stouter dyads, 
which I've found to be too narrow for 50+mm tires.  



On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:52:39 PM UTC-5, Kai Vierstra wrote:
>
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliffhanger-584
> I've got a couple weeks on the 700c version and I think they're fantastic, 
> and certainly a rarity being tubeless compatible and rim brake ready. 
> -Kai
> BK NY
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 9:56:23 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>
>> Any recommendations for a atlas-like rim that is tubeless ready? I was 
>> about to pull the trigger on an atlas dyno wheelset, but now I'm wondering 
>> about wanting the option to go tubeless in the future, if I'm dropping a 
>> significant chunk of money. 
>> So I'd be looking for a double wall, 19mm minimum internal, rim braking, 
>> 36 hole, tour and trail capable rim. 
>> Anything good out there? Rims are not something I frequently check out, 
>> so I'm pretty ignorant here. 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: What’s left and price drops-- Bilenky Frame, 700c Dynamo Wheelsets & Tires, Acorn Boxy Bag, etc.

[Eric Douglas]

 Thanks to all who have helped me downsize my collection.  I have one last 
frame use I’d like to try to move out before I leave on Tuesday  for my 
summer travels through Montana and Oregon. I’m also selling some of the 
parts and accessories I was going to use with the frame.

 

Eric Douglas in Brooklyn

 

It’s best to contact me offlist at ekdouglas (at) mindspring (dot) com

 

Photos at  https://www.flickr.com/gp/147685640@N03/1gi0d7

 

Prices include shipping within the lower 48.  Offers entertained.

 

 

First wheel  set: 700c Velocity Dyad Rims laced to a recently rebuilt by 
PJW older model  SON  dynamo hub and a 135mm Shimano  dark grey SLX rear 
hub. 36 double butted spokes each wheel. Less than 1000 miles on the 
wheelset.  Perfectly true with sidewalls in perfect condition (no wear) 
Asking 320.

 

Second wheel  set:  700c Mavic 719 Rims laced to a  older model  SON  dynamo 
hub and a 135mm Shimano  dark grey SLX rear hub.. 36 double butted spokes 
each wheel. Less than 1000 miles on the wheelset.  Perfectly true with 
sidewalls in perfect condition (no wear) Asking 300.

 

Latest version Schwalbe Marathon with about 200 miles (no wear) 700x40. 60 
pair

Soma Supple Vitesse 700x4. New.   105 for three.
Compass 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass EL Tires.  Black sidewall. New. 135 Vittoria 
Vittoria Voyager Hyper 700 x 38 RFX Folding Bead. One new, one used with 
plenty of life left . Another used with a bit less life left. 50 for the 
three.   New (bought three months ago) Acorn Boxy Bag in Ranger Tan  185   

*Bilenky Custom Frame. *Fillet brazed, with clearance for 700 x 48 tires 
with fenders.  Powdercoated  deep green matching front and rear racks. Rear 
rack is a Tubus Cargo, front is a Bilenky custom. Curved chainstays for 
heel clearance.  Braze-ons for racks, fenders, four water bottles, etc. 1” 
threaded headset. About 300 miles on frame.   Current price for new frame, 
headset and racks would be about $3500.   Note: These is some paint damage 
(none  down to the metal)  with a very very shallow dent on the top tube 
from clumsiness in my shop.  You can’t actually see the dent and have to 
feel for it. But still, there it is. Asking $950

Top tube: 56cm  c-c

Virtual Top Tube  57cm

Seat tube: 52cm c-t

Chainstays: 44.5

BB Drop 8cm

Seat tube angle: 72

Head tube angle 72.5

Seatpost: 26.8

135 rear spacing

Standover with 700 x 38 tires 80cm

 

For fit reference, I’m 5’11” with a 84cm pbh.  When I rode traditional 
frames (like my beloved 1984 Trek 520) they were usually  56-57cm square.

 

I also have enough parts to make a complete bike.
  

 

 

On Sunday, July 9, 2017 at 1:51:17 PM UTC-4, Eric Douglas wrote:
>
>  Thanks to all who have helped me downsize my collection.  I have one 
> last frame use I’d like to try to move out before I leave on Tuesday  for 
> my summer travels through Montana and Oregon. I’m also selling some of the 
> parts and accessories I was going to use with the frame.
>
>  
>
> Eric Douglas in Brooklyn
>
>  
>
> It’s best to contact me offlist at ekdouglas (at) mindspring (dot) com
>
>  
>
> Photos at  https://www.flickr.com/gp/147685640@N03/1gi0d7
>
>  
>
> Prices include shipping within the lower 48.  Offers entertained.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Bilenky Custom Frame. *Fillet brazed, with clearance for 700 x 48 tires 
> with fenders.  Powdercoated  deep green matching front and rear racks. 
> Rear rack is a Tubus Cargo, front is a Bilenky custom. Curved chainstays 
> for heel clearance.  Braze-ons for racks, fenders, four water bottles, 
> etc. 1” threaded headset. About 300 miles on frame.   Current price for 
> new frame, headset and racks would be about $3500.   Note: These is some 
> paint damage (none  down to the metal)  with a very very shallow dent on 
> the top tube from clumsiness in my shop.  You can’t actually see the dent 
> and have to feel for it. But still, there it is. Asking $1000
>
> Top tube: 56cm  c-c
>
> Virtual Top Tube  57cm
>
> Seat tube: 52cm c-t
>
> Chainstays: 44.5
>
> BB Drop 8cm
>
> Seat tube angle: 72
>
> Head tube angle 72.5
>
> Seatpost: 26.8
>
> 135 rear spacing
>
> Standover with 700 x 38 tires 80cm
>
>  
>
> For fit reference, I’m 5’11” with a 84cm pbh.  When I rode traditional 
> frames (like my beloved 1984 Trek 520) they were usually  56-57cm square.
>
>  
>
> I also have enough parts to make a complete bike.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> I was going to use these wheels with the above frame, so no longer need 
> them.
>
>  
>
> First set: 700c Velocity Dyad Rims laced to a recently rebuilt by PJW 
> older model  SON  dynamo hub and a 135mm Shimano  dark grey SLX rear hub. 
> 36 double butted spokes each wheel. Less than 1000 miles on the wheelset. 
>  Perfectly true with sidewalls in perfect condition (no wear) Asking 350.
>
>  
>
> Second  set:  700c Mavic 719 Rims laced to a  older model  SON  dynamo 
> hub and a 135mm Shimano  dark grey SLX rear hub.. 36 double butted spokes 
> each wheel. Less than 1000 miles on the wheelset.