Re: [RBW] Re: Can you Bunny hop a Rivbike?

[lum gim fong]

 Today I tried again. Instead of thinking so much about the directions I read 
online and saw on the videos I just tried to do it. I did step one I guess 
easily which would be raising the front wheel over objects and letting the back 
wheel just roll along. Seemed easier to get the front wheel up. I "jumped" the 
manhole covers in the 'hood as I rode around. Had fun. Felt like maybe the rear 
wheel was following the front wheel up in the air a bit when I went fast. I 
will have to videotape to see what is happening.

It will be nice when I no longer have to dismount and walk my bike up and down 
curbs.

I was wondering if the SON hub 36 spoke wheels and Noodles/stem and brake 
levers will be ok with all this clumsy yanking up and bouncy handling I am 
doing with them now to learn this.

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L's available now?

[Joe Bernard]

Oh man, that Roadini blue looks just like my old Romulus. I don't need a road 
bike so I'll resist the urge (might get that green CLEM L), but it sure is 
purty. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Request for a safety review

[Joe Bernard]

This is always true, Mark. The pump is always the first piece I toss in 
(imagine thumbs up emoji here). 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Request for a safety review

[Mark Anderson]

Put the pump in the bag first, then there's always room for the pump. 

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[RBW] FS: New SKS/ESGE Commuter II Silver Fenders - B65 (700c)

[Michael Holloway]

100% new, still in the packaging.  Bought for a Clem that didn't work out 
(the guy I passed it along to didn't want 'em).  Local to Ann Arbor, 
Michigan.  $40 shipped.

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[RBW] Rear rack for the Hubbuh

[Abcyclehank]

2nd the Surly rear rack.  Worked perfectly on my end.  Seemed logical and well 
designed.  A fat tire rack works so smoothly because of the tandem hub width.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

[dstein]

90 was always my cutoff point when I lived in Nashville. Especially since 
it was so humid it always felt like 100 or more. It's hard to find time to 
even ride in the AM a lot of times in that kind of sweltering, hot, humid 
southern weather as it barely seems to drop below 80 at night and picks 
right back up again as soon as the sun is out (maybe 6AM but i'm not an 
early bird, by 10 or 11 in the thick of summer it's too late). For road 
rides you might get a little shade but not enough to matter. Kind of a 
bummer since the winters can be wet, and the summers hot, it disrupts a lot 
of riding. I've been in DC a lot lately and even though its been in the low 
90's it didn't seem as hot, and DC can get pretty swampy, but as mentioned 
earlier maybe it makes a huge difference to head out to the country there.

Now that I'm in California I don't have a cutoff. I've done a few rides on 
Mt. Diablo in 90 plus temps that was pretty uncomfortable but not a 
nightmare like a Southern 90 degree day in TN. Even on extra hot days out 
here it always seems to cool down at night and you have ample time in the 
AM to ride. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[RichS]

RJ, my PBH is 80. I have a 51 Sam and a 53 Atlantis. The Sam gives me a bit 
more stand over but both fit and ride beautifully. Sam has drop bars; Atlantis 
has Albatross.

As long as you get the right sizing, whatever Riv you purchase will be an 
enjoyable ride.

And two thumbs up for Hampstead Heath!

Best of luck in your search.
Richard

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L's available now?

[Joe Bernard]

I want that green CLEM L, which makes no sense cuz I just sold my Appaloosa. 
Hey, it seemed like a good idea at the time!

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L's available now?

[Daniel D.]

yup I want some more roadini leaks...

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 11:25:18 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> They should have posted something about it. It bums me out a little that 
> there has been no BLUG air BLAHG activity for nearly a month. No new tandem 
> build reports either. I guess everyone is riding.  
>
> I promise to post plenty when my mountain Mixte build gets going
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito, Ca. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Clem L's available now?

[Daniel D.]

Roadini updates!

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 6:24:07 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> I was just glancing at the Riv site and noticed that some Clem L completes 
> (52cm and 59cm) had been added.  I am thinking the copy needs some work as 
> the listing is for completes and the text talks a lot about frame only (at 
> least on first reading).
>
> Anyway, maybe worth some investigation if people are looking...!
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/2017-autumn-clem-h-complete
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

[Ron Mc]

S. Texas here - if you don't like to ride in the hot, you don't ride.
I put Smart Water in my water bottle, take a banana for rest stop.
I ride in the morning, and ride the shady greenways to spend as little time in 
the sun as possible.
  
As long as you're moving, you feel cool enough.  It's when you stop that
the heat closes in on you, so I also pick my stops to be the shadiest and
tallest spots around, so they usually have a breeze.  
As far as that asbestos chamois goes, you want the least insulation you can 
put on your body - I wear the lightest weight merino and MUSA shorts, and 
this the best application I know for a Brooks saddle.  

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 8:50:32 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

The 5 day forecast here in KC is for mid to upper 90s (94 being the 
> "coolest" high temp, 98 being the hottest) with lows of mid to upper 70s, 
> sunny, 50-60% humidity and zero chance of rain. Light winds for this area, 
> always out of the SW. Kansas City Ultra Cycling has moved the start time 
> for Friday's Belgium Day 100K ride from 9:00 am to 6:30 am to beat some of 
> the heat. 
>
> Personally, there are zero days per year that I consider too hot to ride. 
> I sweat like crazy and I seem to hold up to the heat very well, although my 
> fitness is not where I'd like and I need to lose weight, so I may not ride 
> the Belgian ride, but I'll be on my bike every day, with rides between 15 
> and at least 50 miles. I am, admittedly short on common sense, though. 
>
> Anyway, I know it's hot everywhere so how about you guys? I know Riv's 
> don't melt because HQ is over 100 degrees quite often. Stay hydrated out 
> there! I'm going shopping online for an asbestos chamois!
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Paul Canti levers

[iCloud]

Wanted: Paul canti levers. No polished or black. Silver or weirdo anodized 
colors only!

Thanks
-Justin

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[REC]

I meant keep a second bike for me at WORK.  This is too aggressive for me, 
so I've passed.  Perhaps good for you.

I have been looking for used Rivs on Craigslist, so I can keep a second 
bike at home.  I don't know much about Bridgestone bikes, but I've seen 
this for a few weeks and it's still available.  I *think* it's from one of 
our members and might be acceptable quick replacement:  
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/bridgestone-xo/6202919510.html

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 5:22:37 PM UTC-4, REC wrote:

> I think I purchased the last 51 Joe A from Gravel and Grind (it IS a cool 
> shop) in April, but if they have one, that would be great for you.  It's a 
> wonderful bike!  My next favorite was the Atlantis, but that was out of my 
> budget.   And, I don't even do any touring!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[REC]

I think I purchased the last 51 Joe A from Gravel and Grind (it IS a cool 
shop) in April, but if they have one, that would be great for you.  It's a 
wonderful bike!  My next favorite was the Atlantis, but that was out of my 
budget.   And, I don't even do any touring!

I have been looking for used Rivs on Craigslist, so I can keep a second 
bike at home.  I don't know much about Bridgestone bikes, but I've seen 
this for a few weeks and it's still available.  I *think* it's from one of 
our members and might be acceptable quick replacement:  
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/bridgestone-xo/6202919510.html

Bridgestone XO-2 - $425 (Fairfax, VA)  
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condition: *excellent* 
make / manufacturer: *Bridgestone* 
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Legendary 1992 Bridgestone XO-2 $425 52cm frame

This Pearl White example is almost completely original. The tires are not 
original and the specifications said the bike was originally equipped with 
presta tubes. The bike currently has schraeder valved tubes so it is likely 
the rims have been drilled to accomodate the larger "car type" valves. The 
rear rack is a Specialized branded one. Overall condition is very good. 

Complete specifications and geometry can be found at the pdf file at the 
link below. XO-2 description on page 38 Geometry information is on page 47, 
Component specifications on page 49 

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1992/1992.pdf

If you're even looking at this ad, you likely know a little bit about the 
Bridgestone bikes of the early 90s and Grant Petersen. Grant Petersen 
currently runs Rivendell Bicycles and is well-known for promoting sensible 
(but not cheap) bicycles. The PDF file at the link is a 1992 Bridgestone 
catalog which has all sorts of interesting information on bicycle sizing, 
components, and materials. 

We're asking real money for this bicycle and while we may entertain offers, 
we may not accept much below the listed price. The listed price is pretty 
much mid-range from what we've uncovered via the wonders of the internet. 
If you're seriously interested, contact us by email and set up a time to 
check out the bike with your own eyes. After you've inspected the bike you 
can always make an offer but, if it's not realistic, don't hold your breath 
expecting it to be accepted. 

If the advertisement on Craigslist is up, then the bike is available. 
Thanks for looking! 


On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-4, RJ March wrote:

> Atlantis looks amazing. It was a 5 month wait though and I am a cycle 
> commuter in a 1 car family needing to replace my stolen bike asap. I had my 
> GP-designed '92 Bridgestone RB-T stolen. That was a GREAT bike. I doubt I 
> could find another bike with that classic geometry (no slanted tt), tubing 
> so elegantly slender, and a ride so nimble with canti brakes and touring 
> abilities. I road that thing in London traffic when I was living there and 
> it did equally well weaving in and out of cars as it did on rough country 
> paths in Hamstead Heath. I am now looking for something that will do well 
> with all the hills in our new home - Seattle. Here's a photo of the 
> Bridgestone if you are curious or somehow come across it:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:47:49 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
>>
>> Or... look for a 53cm Atlantis. :-) It's the beast. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 4:12:20 PM UTC-5, RJ March wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my first post and I have been driven to it by a (mild) 
>>> desperation. Here's the story: I was looking to buy a Riv bike and settled 
>>> on the Joe Appaloosa. I went on the Riv website and was able to purchase a 
>>> 51cm Hi Ho Silver Joe Appaloosa. Amazing! I thought. A week later, I got a 
>>> call and sincere apology from Vince at Riv that this was a glitch in the 
>>> system and they have no more 51cm Appaloosas, at all. Not so amazing, I 
>>> thought. 
>>>
>>> I am now appealing to any of you all - any chance anyone out there wants 
>>> to part ways with their 51cm Appaloosa? 
>>>
>>> Alternatively, since my PBH is 

[RBW] Re: New Clem L's available now?

[Jonathan D.]

I'm tired of reading about the Green Sam. A nice bike and build but I am ready 
for an update. 

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[RBW] FS: Bike basket

['PeterG' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Cynthias Twig bike basket...size is medium...has cushion in base for you 
doggie, or just for groceries or to look good. 14.5"L x 11"W x 10"Deep.
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Asking $40 & you pay shippingNice basket

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[RBW] Lightning Survivors

[Eric Norris]

>From the NYT—stories from people who have been struck by lightning in Florida, 
>which has more lightning strikes and fatalities than any other state:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/hit-by-lightning-tales-from-survivors.html?hp=click=Homepage=story-heading=second-column-region=top-news=top-news
 

 

--Eric Norris
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[RBW] Re: New Clem L's available now?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Agreed - I miss the news (any news) from Riv as I'm a Rivendell junkie.

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 2:25:18 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> They should have posted something about it. It bums me out a little that 
> there has been no BLUG air BLAHG activity for nearly a month. No new tandem 
> build reports either. I guess everyone is riding.  
>
> I promise to post plenty when my mountain Mixte build gets going
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito, Ca. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of Spur-cycles bells

[lum gim fong]

Dats where i put mine too.
I like holding the tops right by the stem so i need the bars wart-free.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I called all of the dealers lsted when I was looking for my 2017 Joe.  This 
was after the 51 went out of stock on the Riv site.  VERY few of them out 
there and like I mentioned a few left over 2016's but I'm guessing they are 
gone by now since it has been a few months now.  Several dealers were 
wishing they could have gotten more Joes in as there is quite a demand for 
them.  When I called the Wheelhouse they didn't have a 2017 on the floor 
but thought they might have some in back in boxes.  I completely lucked out 
that they had my size and my preferred color.  I really love this bike and 
it has settled my cravings for buying bikes.  (not easy to cure!)

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 3:41:06 PM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> The Clem is a similar bike and might work as well. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[Jonathan D.]

The Clem is a similar bike and might work as well. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[Joe Bernard]

Based on the size of that RB-1 I think the 46 Appaloosa would work for you, 
especially if you're using Moustache/Albastache bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

[Steve Palincsar]

When I was commuting home from 4th & G NW in this kind of weather, I'd 
use up a water bottle full periodically wetting myself down with water 
on the 8 miles home.   "Pavement simmering" indeed.  Running the 
gauntlet of buses idling on Madison Dr was really special.



On 07/18/2017 11:32 AM, EasyRider wrote:
Yes! With a heat index of 100 downtown, and the pavement simmering, 
ugh. But if I can play hooky and ride out to Great Falls under the 
tree canopy instead, well that's a nice ride.


On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:58:26 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:



On 07/17/2017 12:23 PM, EasyRider wrote:

Here in D.C., we're into our second week of mid-90s with high
humidity, so the heat index has climbed to 100 a few times ... it
was 106 last Thursday. 100 is about where I draw the line.
Combined with air pollution, a 15 mile round trip commute
downtown in those conditions becomes rather unpleasant, and
probably unhealthy.


A lot depends on where you ride, and specifically on how much
shade there is.  I led a ride on that same Thursday in the
Brandywine MD area, and I found it actually pretty comfortable and
pleasant most of the time, except for the two flat tires I had. 
Here's the route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22794252

 There was also an A/B
leader; here are links to our ride reports:
http://ohbike.memberlodge.org/reports/4975217
 for the A/B
leader's, and http://ohbike.memberlodge.org/reports/4975268
 for mine.   Of
course, even though it's not all that distant from downtown DC,
there's a world of difference between the center of downtown DC
and the heart of PG County's Rural Tier!

FWIW, I haven't found one single day this summer to be
insufferable or too hot to ride.  But I'm mostly leading and I
mostly get to pick and plan the routes.



On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:50:32 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:

The 5 day forecast here in KC is for mid to upper 90s (94
being the "coolest" high temp, 98 being the hottest) with
lows of mid to upper 70s, sunny, 50-60% humidity and zero
chance of rain. Light winds for this area, always out of the
SW. Kansas City Ultra Cycling has moved the start time for
Friday's Belgium Day 100K ride from 9:00 am to 6:30 am to
beat some of the heat.

Personally, there are zero days per year that I consider too
hot to ride. I sweat like crazy and I seem to hold up to the
heat very well, although my fitness is not where I'd like and
I need to lose weight, so I may not ride the Belgian ride,
but I'll be on my bike every day, with rides between 15 and
at least 50 miles. I am, admittedly short on common sense,
though.

Anyway, I know it's hot everywhere so how about you guys? I
know Riv's don't melt because HQ is over 100 degrees quite
often. Stay hydrated out there! I'm going shopping online for
an asbestos chamois!

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[RBW] Re: Dyno lights/hub

[Shoji Takahashi]

Thanks, Ian.
I ran the taillight wire along the shifter cable then (taped) up the inside 
of the fender.


On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 1:19:14 PM UTC-4, Ian Strader wrote:
>
> What did you use to secure the tail light wire to the frame? Gorgeous 
> build, my dude.
>
> On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 6:55:26 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carla,
>> Here's a pic with the Nitto Front Rack instead of Mark's Rack: 
>> https://flic.kr/p/MU5VJN (enlarge to see some detail).
>>
>> I wrapped the wire up the drive-side fork leg and then wrapped up the 
>> strut (from the mid-fork brazeon) to the front mount.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> shoji
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:58:47 PM UTC-4, Orc wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't use a Marks rack, but I'd imagine that you could just run the 
>>> wiring up the DS fork leg, across the crown, then forwards on the fork 
>>> crown stay and the underside of the rack to the light mount.  Ziptied into 
>>> place, or just wrapped around the fork leg, stay, and rack rails.
>>>
>>> -david parsons
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 2:01:58 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote:

 Someone sent me a picture of how they used a Marks rack with a basket 
 showing how the wiring was done. I wondered if someone has a picture they 
 could show? 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] FOR SALE: 58cm appaloosa

[Singlespeed Johnny]

bike has been sold. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of Spur-cycles bells

[Steve Palincsar]

As Tim says.


On 07/18/2017 12:18 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote:

Ash,
There is always the stem mount position; no bar space required.
Inline image 2
Tim


On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Ash [who works to bike] 
> wrote:



While everyone else here is trying to find the best sounding bell,
I'm on a different kind of journey.  I keep looking for bells that
don't eat up the precious real estate on the handlebar (I like to
have multiple hand positions feasible).

First I tried Knog Oi.  I like it so much in theory.  Over many
many uses on shared bike path, the large version that's on my road
bike might have been ever heard bike one or two people.  No such
like with the small version that goes on 22.2mm bar.  Sometimes I
can't hear it myself.  Recently I ran into Incredibell bar end
bells at an LBS.  Used it for a few rides so far.  I think it
sounds just good enough.  Build quality seems fine as well. 
Picture attached.




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[RBW] New Clem L's available now?

[Bill Lindsay]

They should have posted something about it. It bums me out a little that there 
has been no BLUG air BLAHG activity for nearly a month. No new tandem build 
reports either. I guess everyone is riding.  

I promise to post plenty when my mountain Mixte build gets going

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito, Ca. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Can you Bunny hop a Rivbike?

[RJM]

Oh yes, it's actually somewhat of a crutch to lift up while clipped in and 
the proper technique to bunny hop doesn't work that way. If you learn to 
bunny hop using flat pedals, you can get more air and bunny hop higher 
objects compared to just lifting up the rear wheel with you clipped in. 

Check this video out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WImyDu450Q

and this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdUGWeRQ2IU

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 3:51:12 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:

> I don't ride clipped and I do flat pedals. Is this even possible without 
> being clipped in?

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[EasyRider]

I'm in between sizes on the Appaloosa. I asked a fellow list member what 
the standover on his 51cm Appaloosa was; he measured 77.5cm with 42mm 
tires. 

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:12:20 PM UTC-4, RJ March wrote:
>
> This is my first post and I have been driven to it by a (mild) 
> desperation. Here's the story: I was looking to buy a Riv bike and settled 
> on the Joe Appaloosa. I went on the Riv website and was able to purchase a 
> 51cm Hi Ho Silver Joe Appaloosa. Amazing! I thought. A week later, I got a 
> call and sincere apology from Vince at Riv that this was a glitch in the 
> system and they have no more 51cm Appaloosas, at all. Not so amazing, I 
> thought. 
>
> I am now appealing to any of you all - any chance anyone out there wants 
> to part ways with their 51cm Appaloosa? 
>
> Alternatively, since my PBH is 79, Riv offered me a 46cm Appaloosa. I 
> think it would end up feeling like a pretty small bike. I would love to get 
> in on the ride experience of the Appaloosa but not at the expense of fit. I 
> have no Riv shops in my area. Has anyone been in a similar situation 
> between the 46 and 51 Appaloosa? 
>
> I am thinking I will stick with a 51cm size and go with a Sam Hillborne, 
> even though I am not a big fan of the caliper brake set up and would be 
> somewhat limited on touring - though I read on here that the Sam can haul, 
> too. 
>  
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Dyno lights/hub

[Ian Strader]

What did you use to secure the tail light wire to the frame? Gorgeous 
build, my dude.

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 6:55:26 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi Carla,
> Here's a pic with the Nitto Front Rack instead of Mark's Rack: 
> https://flic.kr/p/MU5VJN (enlarge to see some detail).
>
> I wrapped the wire up the drive-side fork leg and then wrapped up the 
> strut (from the mid-fork brazeon) to the front mount.
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:58:47 PM UTC-4, Orc wrote:
>>
>> I don't use a Marks rack, but I'd imagine that you could just run the 
>> wiring up the DS fork leg, across the crown, then forwards on the fork 
>> crown stay and the underside of the rack to the light mount.  Ziptied into 
>> place, or just wrapped around the fork leg, stay, and rack rails.
>>
>> -david parsons
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 2:01:58 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote:
>>>
>>> Someone sent me a picture of how they used a Marks rack with a basket 
>>> showing how the wiring was done. I wondered if someone has a picture they 
>>> could show? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: SOLD: Nitto Rack Mark's Platrack

[Jason Ferrier]

The rack has been sold. 

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:53:41 PM UTC-7, Jason Ferrier wrote:
>
> I still have this rack and need to clear out the garage before getting 
> evicted :/
>
> It is packaged up in a padded envelope ready to be sent off from my local 
> post office at moments notice.
>
> On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:48:05 PM UTC-7, Jason Ferrier wrote:
>>
>> $120 plus shipping.
>>
>> Mint condition outside of the slight marks where the mounting hardware 
>> scuffs the finish on the bolt tabs.
>> Photo gallery here 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> *From Rivendell's site back when these were available:*
>>
>> *Mark worked on this for most of a year, working closely with Nitto's Mr. 
>> Yoshikawa until all the bugs were gone and there was nothing to add or take 
>> away.*
>>
>> *It is not a stand-alone rack. It works only for sure with either Mark's 
>> Rack or the Nitto Mini-Front. It won't work with the Nitto M-12. The front 
>> part of that rack (which on first glance looks nearly identical to our 
>> Mini-Front)--the front part is round, with no way to attach this baby.*
>>
>> *The idea from the get-go was to use the small Mini-front and Mark's rack 
>> as a platform for a broad extension that would triple the surface area, and 
>> thus allow you to carry bigger and ganglier loads; and that is does.*
>>
>> *It also had to mount and unmount easily, so you could put it on in a 
>> couple of easy minutes, and remove it even faster. It does that, too.*
>>
>> *And it had to be a backwards-compatible add-on rather than a stand-alone 
>> rack, so you don't have to undo your Mark's or Mini to put this one on. The 
>> SlickerSack is perfect for this--since it was designed for it. It's great 
>> for commuting, shopping, camping. It goes on and off quickly, looks super 
>> neat, and works as a suitcase or carry-on, too. It's perfect for touring 
>> and bike camping--it holds a lot and has accessory patches for tieing a 
>> tent or pad or sleeping bag on top.*
>>
>> *How To Use It Nitto PlatRack*
>>
>> *You lay the load onto it and strap it down. For tours and S24O bike 
>> camping trips, it'll fit a tent, sleeping bag, and pad. The rest of your 
>> gear can fit in back. Around town, zip-tie a basket onto it, and it's ready 
>> for groceries. It's just one more way to carry a commute load, either in a 
>> basket or a nifty new Platrack bag made just for it called the SlickerSack.*
>>
>> *It weighs 17.5 ounces. So, when you add the weight of the necessary 
>> Mark's rack or Nitto Mini front, it's still under 2lb. And it's tubular 
>> CrMo.  If you're a rack person, this is a good one.*
>>
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[RBW] Re: Compass Stampede and Riv JB green

[ascpgh]

I currently have (and prefer greatly) the Stampede Pass ELs. I rode 80 
miles of the gravel Great Allegheny Passage on my year-old set on the 4th 
of July weekend. Half of that was in pouring rain. No problems, even with 
the karma-taunting weather.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:50:11 PM UTC-4, Carla Waugh wrote:
>
> If you have ridden both brands which ones do you prefer for road and some 
> gravel?

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[RBW] Re: FS: (bump, price drops, additional items) Nitto, Deerhead, Crust, Campy

[Patch T]

That Origin8/mystery rim is actually a front wheel ya'll, 100mm spaced

*huge eye-roll*

Sorry. Moving is hard.

P

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[RBW] Re: FS: (bump, price drops, additional items) Nitto, Deerhead, Crust, Campy

[Patch T]

That Origin8/mystery wheel is actually a front wheel ya'll, 100mm spaced

*huge eye-roll*

Sorry. Moving is hard.

P

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[RBW] FS: (bump, price drops, additional items) Nitto, Deerhead, Crust, Campy

[Patch T]

Hey Bunch,

Two weeks until I move across the country and I must lighten my load. I've 
reduced prices, and have added a couple things. I'll be posting on local 
Craigslist as well.

After last posting I found a couple email responses in my Junk folder; 
apologies again to ya'll and I'll be more vigilant this time.

Will take offers! Just name it, I would really love these gone to good 
homes. Prices do not include shipping, which is from Los Angeles 90036.

PHOTOS 

Thanks for looking!

Patch

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(these were being sold on ebay last year for $70, made for BG I think in 
Taiwan, not by BG himself; I reckon these were overstock for a production 
that didnt happen? Anyway, I never mounted, cut, or did anything to it, 
just been sitting around; canti posts, mid-fork mounts, BG mountain rack 
mounts, dbl fork end mounts; 100mm spacing *$50*

-- 700c REAR FIXED/FIXED WHEEL: Suzue hub, 120mm, 32H, Mavic Open Pro, no 
quick release *$65*
-- 700c REAR FIXED/FIXED WHEEL: Origin8 hub, 120mm, 32H, not sure what rim, 
bolt-on *$50*

--NITTO RM013: heat treated 520mm, 25.4; lightly used *$50*
--NITTO NOODLE: 410mm, 26.0; lightly used *$30*

-- SunTour non-aero levers, smallish in size, scratches *$20*

-- Campagnolo Strada cranks, bolts & dustcaps (Brev), 170mm; no rings; from 
1983 *$40*
-- MKS toeclips with hardware, used *$10*

-- Campagnolo Nuovo Record rear derailleur pat 84 *$35*
-- Shimano XTR M910 rear derailleur, medium cage *$35*
-- Shimano Deore XT M736 front derailleur, top-pull, 28.6 *$15*

-- CRUST LD STEM clearcoat; mounted and ridden around the block once, 
includes all original hardware & spacers, excellent condition *$100?*
-- UNO dirt drop stem, black, 60mm, 25.4, like new *$10*
-- cheapo black super riser rim 90mm, 25.4 *$5*
-- Dimension black riser stem 110mm, 25.4 *$5*
-- Origin8 silver stem 120mm, 25.4 *$10*
-- VO stem 110mm, 25.4 *$20*

-- Shimano M700 Deerhead complete group, taken off a 1985 Trek 850, overall 
very good but not cosmetically perfect condition, minor rust in some 
hardware, scratches on some parts, original wheels included in group sale; 
I'll consider parting this out; can email more detailed photos if 
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Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of Spur-cycles bells

[Tim Butterfield]

Ash,
There is always the stem mount position; no bar space required.
[image: Inline image 2]
Tim


On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Ash [who works to bike] 
wrote:

>
> While everyone else here is trying to find the best sounding bell, I'm on
> a different kind of journey.  I keep looking for bells that don't eat up
> the precious real estate on the handlebar (I like to have multiple hand
> positions feasible).
>
> First I tried Knog Oi.  I like it so much in theory.  Over many many uses
> on shared bike path, the large version that's on my road bike might have
> been ever heard bike one or two people.  No such like with the small
> version that goes on 22.2mm bar.  Sometimes I can't hear it myself.
> Recently I ran into Incredibell bar end bells at an LBS.  Used it for a few
> rides so far.  I think it sounds just good enough.  Build quality seems
> fine as well.  Picture attached.
>
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[RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

[Ryan Thompson]

Tim,

I just got back from visiting family in KC and while I was there rode 120 
miles of the Katy/Rock Island Spur trail from Columbia to around Pleasant 
Hill in that heat.  I thought I was prepared but it was brutal.  It 
reminded me of working on the family farm in July while bringing in Hay, 
and all you wanted to do was jump in the creek to cool off at the end of 
the day.  The key for me was to ensure I have enough water and take 
multiple breaks to cool down.

Now that I'm back in DC, the weather isn't much better.

Ryan

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:50:32 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
> The 5 day forecast here in KC is for mid to upper 90s (94 being the 
> "coolest" high temp, 98 being the hottest) with lows of mid to upper 70s, 
> sunny, 50-60% humidity and zero chance of rain. Light winds for this area, 
> always out of the SW. Kansas City Ultra Cycling has moved the start time 
> for Friday's Belgium Day 100K ride from 9:00 am to 6:30 am to beat some of 
> the heat. 
>
> Personally, there are zero days per year that I consider too hot to ride. 
> I sweat like crazy and I seem to hold up to the heat very well, although my 
> fitness is not where I'd like and I need to lose weight, so I may not ride 
> the Belgian ride, but I'll be on my bike every day, with rides between 15 
> and at least 50 miles. I am, admittedly short on common sense, though. 
>
> Anyway, I know it's hot everywhere so how about you guys? I know Riv's 
> don't melt because HQ is over 100 degrees quite often. Stay hydrated out 
> there! I'm going shopping online for an asbestos chamois!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 56cm Ritchey Ti Breakaway Cross

[Hugh Smitham]

Sold.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipeedemusings.com/



On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> bump.
>
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 3:59:25 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Up for sale a 56cm Ritchey Ti Cross Breakaway bike.  Ritchey no longer
>> makes these frames in titanium. Titanium is light, doesn't rust, made to
>> last and easy to maintain. You can run up to 40mm cross tires and travel
>> with this bike using the included travel case. Saddle included no pedals.
>> This bike is super light and quick. The Mini Motos stop amazingly well. I'm
>> thinning out the stable for other projects.
>>
>>
>> Specs:
>>
>> Frame & Fork: Ritchey Titanium Breakaway Frame & Ritchey WCS Carbon fork
>>
>> Rear Derailleur: Shimano RD M8000 XT 11 speed.
>>
>> Chain:  Shimano XT/Ultegra CN-HG701 11 speed chain.
>>
>> Cassette:  Shimano CS M8000 11-42
>>
>> Crank: Shimano m8000 XT 175mm arm length single ring 34 tooth.
>>
>> Bottom Bracket: Shimano XT M8000
>>
>> Shift/Brake levers:  Gevanalle 1x11 speed Microshift thumby
>>
>> Wheels: Ritchey Zeta II Front 20 spoke count, Rear 24 spoke count, no
>> tool cassette removal.
>>
>> From Ritchey: https://ritcheylogic.com/wcs-zeta-2-road-wheels
>>
>> Brakes: Paul Mini-Motos and Kool Stop Salmon thin line pads
>>
>> Saddle: Selle Anatomica
>>
>> Seat Post: Thompson Elite zero setback.
>>
>> Stem: Ritchey Pro 7cm 30º rise
>>
>> Headset: Ritchey Carbon drop in.
>>
>> Handlebars: Salsa Cowchippers 42mm
>>
>> Bar Tape: Brooks Cambium Black Rubber
>>
>> Ritchey Travel Case.
>>
>>
>> Flicker Images
>> 
>>
>>
>> I'll entertain reasonable offers, bike will be shipped in the travel case
>> most likely in another box through the least expensive carrier. Buyer pays
>> actual shipping. CONUS only no international shipping.
>>
>>
>> Please feel to reach out via private email with any question and I'll do
>> my best to answer them. If you need additional images of a specific area of
>> the bike I'll be happy to provide those. The tires are brand new as well as
>> the chain. The rest of the drive has very low miles. No dents, dings or
>> scratches of any kind. There are scuff marks but a greenie will remove any
>> blemish.
>>
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] FOR SALE: 58cm appaloosa

[Singlespeed Johnny]

yes it is. email me for pics. thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

[EasyRider]

Yes! With a heat index of 100 downtown, and the pavement simmering, ugh. 
But if I can play hooky and ride out to Great Falls under the tree canopy 
instead, well that's a nice ride.

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:58:26 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> On 07/17/2017 12:23 PM, EasyRider wrote:
>
> Here in D.C., we're into our second week of mid-90s with high humidity, so 
> the heat index has climbed to 100 a few times ... it was 106 last Thursday. 
> 100 is about where I draw the line. Combined with air pollution, a 15 mile 
> round trip commute downtown in those conditions becomes rather unpleasant, 
> and probably unhealthy. 
>
>
> A lot depends on where you ride, and specifically on how much shade there 
> is.  I led a ride on that same Thursday in the Brandywine MD area, and I 
> found it actually pretty comfortable and pleasant most of the time, except 
> for the two flat tires I had.  Here's the route:  
> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/22794252  There was also an A/B leader; 
> here are links to our ride reports: 
> http://ohbike.memberlodge.org/reports/4975217 for the A/B leader's, and 
> http://ohbike.memberlodge.org/reports/4975268 for mine.   Of course, even 
> though it's not all that distant from downtown DC, there's a world of 
> difference between the center of downtown DC and the heart of PG County's 
> Rural Tier!
>
> FWIW, I haven't found one single day this summer to be insufferable or too 
> hot to ride.  But I'm mostly leading and I mostly get to pick and plan the 
> routes.  
>
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:50:32 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: 
>>
>> The 5 day forecast here in KC is for mid to upper 90s (94 being the 
>> "coolest" high temp, 98 being the hottest) with lows of mid to upper 70s, 
>> sunny, 50-60% humidity and zero chance of rain. Light winds for this area, 
>> always out of the SW. Kansas City Ultra Cycling has moved the start time 
>> for Friday's Belgium Day 100K ride from 9:00 am to 6:30 am to beat some of 
>> the heat. 
>>
>> Personally, there are zero days per year that I consider too hot to ride. 
>> I sweat like crazy and I seem to hold up to the heat very well, although my 
>> fitness is not where I'd like and I need to lose weight, so I may not ride 
>> the Belgian ride, but I'll be on my bike every day, with rides between 15 
>> and at least 50 miles. I am, admittedly short on common sense, though. 
>>
>> Anyway, I know it's hot everywhere so how about you guys? I know Riv's 
>> don't melt because HQ is over 100 degrees quite often. Stay hydrated out 
>> there! I'm going shopping online for an asbestos chamois!
>>
> -
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] How's your IQ-X light lens holding up.

[Eric Norris]

No problems so far. I really like the IQ-X—I find that the light is brighter 
and throws farther and wider than the Edelux I or II.

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:25 PM, lum gim fong  wrote:
> 
> I hear they are made of plastic and was wondering if anyone's is fogging over 
> yet? That was the dealbreaker for me. The fact that they can fog over because 
> they are plastic. Especially wondering for those of you who ride on salted 
> roads. Thanks for any info. 
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Lamp Holder 6 (Right Side)

[Bob B]

I found one. Thank you.

On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 at 9:25:43 AM UTC-4, Bob B wrote:
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> Looking for a Nitto lamp holder (right side). Let me know if you've got 
> one! 
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
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Re: [RBW] Re: How hot is too hot?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Some good information on riding in the heat from a very accomplished long 
distance rider (and cycling coach).


https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/randon/TQh1XmLPp00

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[RJ March]

I called around but haven't had any luck. Gravel and Grind hasn't gotten 
back to me yet though. They seem like a cool shop. 

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 11:04:48 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>
> Have you contacted any other dealers? I visited Gravel and Grind in 
> Maryland recently and saw Appaloosas on the floor.  

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[RBW] Re: Anybody recognize this handlebar?

[Ash [who works to bike]]

I made a poor man's version of loop bar for my recent 6-hour trip by adding 
some old bar end grips to Alba. I think I used the loop area for about 20% 
of the times.  Ideally for a long frame like Appa with some load, the loop 
needs to be wider.   

I do think overall it looks ugly, but an option upright bar users can 
consider for long trips.  esp for those who feel the reach is not long 
enough with Chocos.



On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 22:01:16 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> I'm intrigued by the handlebar in this promo video.  Looks promising.  I 
> need a black handlebar for one of my bikes.
>
>
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/934648866/urbanx-convert-any-bike-to-an-electric-bike-in-60
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Appaloosa 51cm and question about the 46cm size

[RJ March]

Good point, Drew. They do both seem like amazing bikes though. 

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 6:55:37 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> Have you called the riv dealers to see what they have?
> Also, I think you shouldn't get the Sam. Sam is a great great bike, but on 
> a purchase this big, I'm not a fan of settling for the thing you didn't 
> really want. 

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[RBW] Re: Dyno lights/hub

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Carla,
Here's a pic with the Nitto Front Rack instead of Mark's 
Rack: https://flic.kr/p/MU5VJN (enlarge to see some detail).

I wrapped the wire up the drive-side fork leg and then wrapped up the strut 
(from the mid-fork brazeon) to the front mount.

Good luck!
shoji



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>
> I don't use a Marks rack, but I'd imagine that you could just run the 
> wiring up the DS fork leg, across the crown, then forwards on the fork 
> crown stay and the underside of the rack to the light mount.  Ziptied into 
> place, or just wrapped around the fork leg, stay, and rack rails.
>
> -david parsons
>
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 2:01:58 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote:
>>
>> Someone sent me a picture of how they used a Marks rack with a basket 
>> showing how the wiring was done. I wondered if someone has a picture they 
>> could show? 
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Lamp Holder 6 (Right Side)

[Bob B]

Looking for a Nitto lamp holder (right side). Let me know if you've got 
one! 

Thanks,
Rob

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[RBW] New Clem L's available now?

[Bob Lovejoy]

I was just glancing at the Riv site and noticed that some Clem L completes 
(52cm and 59cm) had been added.  I am thinking the copy needs some work as 
the listing is for completes and the text talks a lot about frame only (at 
least on first reading).

Anyway, maybe worth some investigation if people are looking...!

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/web-special-framesets-and-bicycles/products/2017-autumn-clem-h-complete

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL

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[RBW] Re: Compass Stampede and Riv JB green

[Surlyprof]

+1 on Compass ELs.  The group convinced me to buy Barlow Pass ELs about a year 
and a half ago.  I was a little timid about the ELs but, over the first 4 
months, I started getting braver using them on gravel trails and rough roads.  
I haven't had a flat the entire time.  I love the nimble performance and feel 
very confident on them.  I've been using them at about 40 psi in the front and 
35 psi on the rear.  Great tires.

John

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[RBW] Re: Compass Stampede and Riv JB green

[Ron Mc]

Compass EL, hands-down - only vulcanized tire that compares to hand-glued. 

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 8:32:04 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Compass. EL is my preference.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 3:50:11 PM UTC-6, Carla Waugh wrote:
>>
>> If you have ridden both brands which ones do you prefer for road and some 
>> gravel?
>
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Re: [Ext] RE: [RBW] Re: FS SimpleOne size 60cm

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I'm 5'11" and my 60cm Quickbeam is probably my best-fitting bike.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2017, at 6:03 PM, nawrock 
> wrote:

I'm 5' 10" it fits me perfect.



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: Davey Two Shoes >
Date: 7/16/17 3:48 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS SimpleOne size 60cm

I want one so bad...but im 5'10 :(

On Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 1:51:50 PM UTC-4, Dave Nawrocki wrote:
Greetings,
Putting my SO up for sale.  This is one of a handful that came in with 
horizontal rear drop outs, not the angled ones, and is a great Maroon color.  I 
bought this directly from Riv in Sept 2010.  It is in really good condition a 
solid 8 out of 10. Has a couple very small nicks here and there, nothing that 
jumps out at you.

DOS freewheel 17x19
Shimano Tiagra brake levers
Tektro CR720 canitlever brakes
Crank XD2 double 38/40  172.5
Bottom bracket 107 Tange Super
Nitto 10cm Stem
Nitto Albatross CroMo the wide ones
Cork tape that has amber shellac and hemp twine
Misha cork grips
Rich built MA3 rims
Front hub is Suntour XC2000
Rear hub is Phil
Tires are Pasela 700x37 almost new
The Brooks sadle could be included
The Nitto touring cages are not included
The Fenders could be part of the deal, I dont really need them.
The seat stem is kind of the plain jane one that Riv sells.

Asking 1,500 plus shipping.
Paypal or Postal Money order works for me.

Thanks for looking!


Dave
Fort Collins, CO


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Re: [Ext] [RBW] FOR SALE: 58cm appaloosa

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Is this the double top tube version?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2017, at 11:26 PM, Singlespeed Johnny 
>  wrote:
>
> frame/fork/fsa headset/thomson seatpost
> butterscotch color
> 58cm
> excellent shape
> less than 2,000 easy miles
> $900 shipped
> i dunno how to post post on here...
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[RBW] Re: How's your IQ-X light lens holding up.

[Orc]

I've only got a couple of thousand of miles on my IQ-X, so it's not had the 
chance to get any serious wear, but as for plastic lenses I put about 
25,000 miles onto a IQ-Cyo (another plastic-lensed joint) without noticable 
lens wear.The -X has an impressive beam throw, so even with some 
fogging it should be substantially brighter than a Cyo or eDelux.

-david parsons

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 8:56:09 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Thanks. My edeluxII light has never had the awesome beam pattern and 
> brightness of the Peter White pictures.  So I'm looking for something 
> brighter and I hear this one is brighter.
> I find myself straining to see it at night sometimes with my EII.

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[RBW] Re: FS Carradice, WI, Vittoria

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Apologies. 
The picture I had  posted as "tire 2" was actually a Marathon Supreme. 
The Hyper is on my other spare wheel.
I'll take a picture of the right one tonight and repost.

Jay

On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:16:15 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

> Tire 3
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:15:13 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tire 2
>>
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:10:26 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>>
>>> Tire 1
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:08:26 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 Cog and lock ring

 On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:06:21 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> Bag and rack
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:03:47 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>
>> Figured out the pictures, one at a time. 
>>
>> Here's the bag.
>> On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:21:23 PM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure.
>>> Please send me an email to jayin...@gmail.com amd I'll respond with 
>>> the pictures .
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
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