Re: [RBW] All Downhill From Here: Early Aspen Photos of Descent

[Patrick Moore]

Pretty. I miss the high-Colorado aspen landscapes.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[Patrick Moore]

I meant to add: and those who don't drop include many who don't use special
derailleurs or rings.

FWIW, 1 ring X 5 speed setups used to be very common for city bikes; I
personally owned the 5 speed Raleigh Sprite model, and a Collegiate. Not
all had chainguards, either -- my Sprite did not. Alvit rd, 3/32 chain.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> List scuttlebutt shows about half experience this, half don't. I
> personally am among the latter half.
>
> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
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>>
>> Single chainring drivetrains with multiple rear sprockets are famous for
>> dropping chains.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[Patrick Moore]

List scuttlebutt shows about half experience this, half don't. I personally
am among the latter half.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

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> Single chainring drivetrains with multiple rear sprockets are famous for
> dropping chains.
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[RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[comveo]

1x9 on my Appaloosa includes long cage XT Shadow RD, XT 11-36 cassette with 
sugino xd600 crankarms and 34t 100bcd single speed(no ramps) chainring. I 
believe the BB is a Sugino 68x 107, which get the chainline/center of 
cassette close to perfect. No retention devices used. Had the same setup on 
my Hunqapillar. Never any issue with dropped chains. I do like to keep 
chain as short as possible. Long cage RD is certainly not required by any 
means. I'd go short cage if I had one!

-Bryan

On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 12:17:08 PM UTC-4, Jazzman Ruben wrote:
>
> Rivies,
>
> Are any of y'all using a 1x friction shifting setup? What are you using? 
> Does it work well?
>
> I've been doing this for about a year/year and a half now. I pulled off 
> the front derailer and cable, the stock rings off my Sugino and put on a 
> "USAMade" (link ) chainring on with some 
> single speed crank bolts. Otherwise, the drivetrain (silver shifters and 
> antique Deerhead RD, 8 speed wide range cassette) remained in tact. 
> Initially, I didn't have any chain drops. Lately, I've been dropping the 
> chain a few times a week.
>
> I can't imagine that I wore out the chainring this fast. I wonder if the 
> ol' Deerhead is getting tired? Do I need an RD with a clutch? 
>
> -JR
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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[srob]

Not sure I can justify the unexpected overseas delivery cost so I may be 
willing to give mine up if you still want one.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 2:09:02 PM UTC+1, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I've been kicking myself for missing out on this one, still excited to see 
> photos. If anyone got one of these and decides to sell, I'll buy it.
> David
> Chicago, IL
>
> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 7:37:01 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>>
>> Bumping this thread because it looks like we're close! I'll let Will 
>> decide when to spill the beans, but I'm chomping at the bit to reveal some 
>> prototype pics he sent when I asked for an ETA. Almost wish I hadn't asked 
>> because what I saw makes it even harder to wait. The only clue I can give 
>> is that the seat lug is glorious! 
>>
>> Soon, very soon...
>>
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[RBW] Re: Pre-Solstice Ride: Roadside Fauna

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Oops, yes. Thanks. 

On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 11:55:43 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
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> Equinox.  Very pretty nonetheless, and makes me jealous.  It's already 
> snowing, here in Wyoming. :-(

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[RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[Clayton.sf]

Narrow wide ring and clutch rear derailer without any other mechanical 
chain retention device.
Dropped chain ONCE in the past 4 years. This includes double-black tails.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 1:44:34 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
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> How are you all dropping chains in a 1x? Bouncy roads and the chain pops 
> off the ring?
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Lead Times ~ Why 8-9 Months?

[lum gim fong]

I had two composite seatposts break on me. I even used a torque wrench on 
the replacement SP and it still broke.

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[RBW] Where's that foot shifting video?

[lum gim fong]

Of Jenny shifting the chain onto different chainrings while riding with her 
foot? I can't find it. I know I saw it somewhere. I think it was Jenny.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 09/22/2017 04:44 PM, lum gim fong wrote:
How are you all dropping chains in a 1x? Bouncy roads and the chain 
pops off the ring?




Single chainring drivetrains with multiple rear sprockets are famous for 
dropping chains.  The original spaceframe Moulton, the AM-7, originally 
came only that way.  I remember reading a posting by an owner who said 
his bike was "possessed by the Devil" on account of throwing the chain, 
as you say, on bouncy roads.  They came up with this nifty chain keeper 
to prevent derailing:

Image result for moulton chain keeper



Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Lead Times ~ Why 8-9 Months?

[Davey Two Shoes]

What gunnar did you go for? I'm so close on pulling the trigger on a 
roadie. But carbon keeps calling me.

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> I just ordered a Gunnar and was told 6-8 *weeks*. This is a full custom, 
> but Tig and in 1 color powder. 
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[RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[lum gim fong]

I use an XD2 wide low setup with 40T with a 24 bail out ring. I stay on the 
40T x 11-32 8-speed for my local terrain.
Anything over 8% I bail.

Silver shifters and deore rear derailer. No front derailer yet. But got a 
SunXCD coming in the mail.

But I probably would not use a front derailer if I could shift from the 24 
to the 40 on the fly with my foot. I think I could drop from the 40 to 24 
easily with foot. Not sure about the other way.

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[RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[lum gim fong]

How are you all dropping chains in a 1x? Bouncy roads and the chain pops 
off the ring?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Decaleur -NITTO/Compass/Grand Bois

[lum gim fong]

SOLD 

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[RBW] Re: 1x Friction Shifting Rivs - whachu got?

[JohnS]

I 2nd DP, chain guard has worked for me. My vintage Trek 1000 is set up 
with 1x6 index. The chain would jump off the chain ring when I shifted to 
the smallest cog. The chain guard has corrected the problem, though it 
could be due to an old RD.

John.S




On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 12:17:08 PM UTC-4, Jazzman Ruben wrote:
>
> Rivies,
>
> Are any of y'all using a 1x friction shifting setup? What are you using? 
> Does it work well?
>
> I've been doing this for about a year/year and a half now. I pulled off 
> the front derailer and cable, the stock rings off my Sugino and put on a 
> "USAMade" (link ) chainring on with some 
> single speed crank bolts. Otherwise, the drivetrain (silver shifters and 
> antique Deerhead RD, 8 speed wide range cassette) remained in tact. 
> Initially, I didn't have any chain drops. Lately, I've been dropping the 
> chain a few times a week.
>
> I can't imagine that I wore out the chainring this fast. I wonder if the 
> ol' Deerhead is getting tired? Do I need an RD with a clutch? 
>
> -JR
>

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[RBW] FS: 44cm Nitto Noodle and 44cm Nitto B132

[Reid Echols]

Both only mounted up once (I was kidding myself, and needed the 46's). 
Basically the same bar, but the B132 is 25.4 clamp. Pics upon request. 

Noodle: $45 plus shipping 
B132: $40 plus shipping 

If you're in the Austin area, we can work out a local discount :) 

(Crosslisted with iBOB) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Kai Vierstra]

You and me both! As for Rosco's future, I think they have to wait for the spare 
forks to overflow the reservoir again?
-Kai
BK NY 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell custom by Mark Nobilette, size 58.5cm. $2000

[Ryan Fleming]

Nice components; can't see how you would do much better. Geez those WI 
cranks are good looking. Nice price if it's your size, that's for sure

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 10:30:10 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
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> Nice. Are those blue King classic hubs? 
> That's a sweet bike.
>
> Philip
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Re: [RBW] All Downhill From Here: Early Aspen Photos of Descent

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've lived my entire life in the flat parts of Oklahoma.  Back in the 
mid-90's, when I first got into riding, I considered myself to be in pretty 
decent riding shape.  I hauled my bike out to Colorado and rode the paved 
roads into and thru the Garden of the Gods.  That's when I learned my 
riding fitness wasn't so good after all.  I was huffing and puffing, barely 
moving uphill when two girls on big mountain bikes with big knobbies just 
cruised by me, chit chatting away, not at all out of breath.  

On the downhill, I got going so fast that I broke a brake cable and almost 
wore holes in the soles of my shoes!  I did get stopped though!!



On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 9:03:14 AM UTC-5, truegolden wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Patrick. 
>   I enjoyed seeing your great pics. 
>
> About 6 weeks ago I was able to experience some of that Rocky Mountain 
> remarkable beauty up in the Crested Butte area. 
>
> At every turn I was awed by the beauty. 
>
> This flatlander was also challenged by riding my bike a bit up there in 
> 8700 to 9300 elevations. 
>
> Paul in Dallas 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell custom by Mark Nobilette, size 58.5cm. $2000

[Philip Williamson]

Nice. Are those blue King classic hubs? 
That's a sweet bike.

Philip
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[RBW] FS: Compass Rat Trap Pass 26" x 2.3"

[Gabriel Bruguier]

Hello all,

Up for sale is a set of Compass Rat Trap Pass tires with the standard 
casing.  

I bought them in mid-August and rode them for a little over a week on my 
daily commute in Lincoln, NE, so they have around 30-40 easy miles on them.

Reason for selling: I didn't like them as much as I thought I would.

Asking $100 & buyer pays actual shipping cost via Paypal.

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell custom by Mark Nobilette, size 58.5cm. $2000

[Ryan Fleming]

agreed. Much better!

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 8:56:27 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> wow! yes those new pictures definitely showcase that awesome color.
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 10:20:05 PM UTC-4, 2shelt...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> NEW PICTURES FOR THOSE INTERESTED (I think I got the message I shouldn't 
>> consider a job in photography)
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/rivendell-custom-bicycle-585cm/6303908899.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Bob B]

Can't wait to see that build, Kai! Does anyone remember... is Rosco over, 
or will the project continue?

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 11:03:52 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Congrats Kai.  Having a huge Clem I look forward to hearing your 
> impressions of how it is different and similar in ride etc.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
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[RBW] All Downhill From Here: Early Aspen Photos of Descent

[Paul in Dallas]

Thanks Patrick.
 I enjoyed seeing your great pics.

About 6 weeks ago I was able to experience some of that Rocky Mountain 
remarkable beauty up in the Crested Butte area.


At every turn I was awed by the beauty.

This flatlander was also challenged by riding my bike a bit up there in 
8700 to 9300 elevations.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell custom by Mark Nobilette, size 58.5cm. $2000

[Philip Kim]

wow! yes those new pictures definitely showcase that awesome color.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pricing a HubbuHubbuH build

[Ed Felker]

Interesting. Must have changed over time; or because we use bar end
shifters the gaps are not an issue.

We bought XD tandem cranks new in late 2015 for our Spectrum tandem. Zephyr
chainrings have worked great with Shimano 9-speed chain and cassette
without any special modifications.

We're running 50-40-26 rings, Shimano 9-speed bar-end shifters and
Campagnolo front derailleur, the older kind made for the Racing Triple and
similar cranksets.


On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 5:21 AM, Peter White  wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> I've tried to get TA rings to work on the XD 2 cranks without success. The
> studs for the inner triple ring are too long and there was no way to get
> the middle ring close enough to the inner without the gap between the
> middle ring and the outer ring being too large. I wonder if there's been a
> change in the design of the Sugino cranks in the years since I tried it?
>
> PJW
> Peter White Cycles LLC
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Ed Felker  wrote:
>
>> We've built up tandems for road touring and brevets, all in Rivendell
>> style. Your list is good. Correct on the rear hub. The biggest cost drivers
>> on a tandem are cranks – we like Sugino XD-tandem specific with TA Zephyr
>> rings – and strong wheels.
>>
>> We like White Industries hubs though they require periodic maintenance.
>> Phil are also great but more expensive. Lower cost Shimano 145mm drum brake
>> hubs are out there but you'll need a disk adapter.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Ed
>> Washington, DC
>>
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 5:41:43 PM UTC-4, Matthew Liggett
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> RBW Owners,
>>>
>>> I have been thinking of getting a tandem, and the latest announcement of
>>> a few more HHH available has me wondering how much beyond the $1800 I'll
>>> put into components.  AFAICT, the differences versus a "normal" single
>>> build are...
>>>
>>>1. Don't have to buy a seatpost
>>>2. Or a headset
>>>3. Extra saddle
>>>4. Extra set of pedals
>>>5. Extra bars, grips, tape
>>>6. Extra chain
>>>7. Tandem cranks instead of normal
>>>8. Longer cable and housing runs
>>>9. 1 disc brake setup: caliper, rotor, housing, cable, and lever
>>>10. Tandem, disc rear hub instead of normal
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> Sunnyvale, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: All Downhill From Here: Early Aspen Photos of Descent

[Tony DeFilippo]

Gorgeous, thanks for sharing.  I admire your dedication to getting the shot as 
well!

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[RBW] Re: All Downhill From Here: Early Aspen Photos of Descent

[ascpgh]

Stunning. Hard to imagine the allure of the downhill when you just want to 
stop and stare!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 8:15:23 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Enjoy!
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/all-downhill-from-here
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> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] FS: 46cm Noodles & 2 stems (26 & 25.4)

[WETH]

Bump with an incentive. I will take $10 off the total price if you buy two 
items and $15 off if you buy them all.

46cm noodles with much tape residue  $50 shipped conus

Nitto Technomic 280mm (Extra Long) Quill Stem 26.0 with 7cm reach (great for 
getting bars high and close)
$55 shipped conus

Nitto Technomic short quill 25.4 with 7cm reach
$25 shipped conus

Photos here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/86975051@N08/8qB3L3

Payment by PayPal and please reply off list.

Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: New England Lobstah Riv Roll?

[Wally Estrella]

>
> It's a go-Go-GO!  We have pack o'four thus far.  Hope to see it grow some 
> -see you there in 26 hours!
>

CHEERS! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pricing a HubbuHubbuH build

[Peter White]

Hi Ed,

I've tried to get TA rings to work on the XD 2 cranks without success. The
studs for the inner triple ring are too long and there was no way to get
the middle ring close enough to the inner without the gap between the
middle ring and the outer ring being too large. I wonder if there's been a
change in the design of the Sugino cranks in the years since I tried it?

PJW
Peter White Cycles LLC

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Ed Felker  wrote:

> We've built up tandems for road touring and brevets, all in Rivendell
> style. Your list is good. Correct on the rear hub. The biggest cost drivers
> on a tandem are cranks – we like Sugino XD-tandem specific with TA Zephyr
> rings – and strong wheels.
>
> We like White Industries hubs though they require periodic maintenance.
> Phil are also great but more expensive. Lower cost Shimano 145mm drum brake
> hubs are out there but you'll need a disk adapter.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ed
> Washington, DC
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 5:41:43 PM UTC-4, Matthew Liggett wrote:
>>
>> RBW Owners,
>>
>> I have been thinking of getting a tandem, and the latest announcement of
>> a few more HHH available has me wondering how much beyond the $1800 I'll
>> put into components.  AFAICT, the differences versus a "normal" single
>> build are...
>>
>>1. Don't have to buy a seatpost
>>2. Or a headset
>>3. Extra saddle
>>4. Extra set of pedals
>>5. Extra bars, grips, tape
>>6. Extra chain
>>7. Tandem cranks instead of normal
>>8. Longer cable and housing runs
>>9. 1 disc brake setup: caliper, rotor, housing, cable, and lever
>>10. Tandem, disc rear hub instead of normal
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Matt
>> Sunnyvale, CA
>>
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