[RBW] Bullnose bars for long gravel rides?

[drew]

It depends on the version. Vintage ones are not great for me. Hard to get high, 
and very flat/straight. New riv ones are much improved and maybe the best 
looking bar ever. That said, I think a map/ahearne style bar offers a similar 
yet better set of positions, and a more customizable fit. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

[Kainalu V.]

Yeah, no skidding for me, it's just what I've come to associate with fixed gear 
cycling, that and riding backwards in circles (anybody got that skill?)
Might get some retention though.
-Kai
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[RBW] Bullnose bars for long gravel rides?

[Kainalu V.]

They're long distance comfortable with some ergon grips, in my experience at 
least. I've never taken them past 60 miles in a day.
-Kai
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[RBW] Bullnose bars for long gravel rides?

[Mike K.]

Merry Christmas, gang! I'm building up a Stumpjumper to be an 
all-rounder/gravel bike to complement my Ram for roads. I was thinking about 
putting Bullmoose bars on the SJ for better control on trails or slick roads, 
but was curious unsure how they would do over a longer ride on gravel or 
trails. Does anyone have experience with long Bullmoose rides?

Thanks, all. 
- Mike in ATX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reader index?

[Philip Williamson]

Time Life Presents: RIVENDELL

I think that’s a great idea. I’d be interested in revenue graphs for the early 
years: Reader goes out, revenue shoots up, Grant anxiety ebbs. I just like 
graphs. 

Employee photos and bikes over the years, for sure. Show the evolution of Riv 
bike geometries, and maybe the Riv influence on the industry. 

Please get Olivier Chatelet to lay it out!

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Very Merry Christmas Tide!

[John G.]

This thread could make anyone smile. Happy Christmas, Bunch!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reader index?

[Craig Montgomery]

Damn good idea Patrick. But we should be able give Grant our input as to 
favorite articles. Maybe do it in thematically based volumes eg. frame 
designs, touring, people. Sounds fun.

Craig in Tucson

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 6:23:14 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Aha! Thanks for this. Those titles bring back *old* memories!
>
> Money making suggestion to RBW, no % taken: make a book out of best old 
> Reader articles. Heck, if copyrights are a hassle, make a book just out of 
> Grant's pieces. But if you can include the Maynard Herson articles and the 
> Bontrager ones, all the better. Do keep all the interviews. 
>
> Make the book a *thick* book by selecting generously, of course. Say, 
> 1,000 pages. 44 X average 25 pp -- leave out half; let's say 500 pages. 
> Leather bound calfskin, gilt edged, archival quality paper, full color.
>
> I have to say that the RR was one of the most readable bike "mags" 
> available, when it was available.
>
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 9:39 AM, MartyG  > wrote:
>
>> I sent a PM with an email just in case, but did this attach properly? 
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 11:34:11 AM UTC-5, jbu...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> happy holidaze, Gang, 
>>>
>>> Am I crazy to recall that there was an index sheet / master table of 
>>> contents for the Rivendell Reader at some point? Anyone have a copy 
>>> available? 
>>>
>>> I need to find my USB cork!!! 
>>>
>>> Hoping all your saddle sacks are hung by the chimney with care 
>>> =- Joe Bunik 
>>> Walnut Creek, CA 
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[RBW] Very Merry Christmas Tide!

[Deacon Patrick]

What a Christmas gift, Justin! Congratulations! Wondrous! Beautiful! Bountiful! 
Delightful!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

[Adam Kilgas]

Doesn't the Roadini use some of the same tubes as the Sam?  And for the ones 
that aren't shared, how do they compare with the equivalent Sam tubes?  I know 
a comparison like that, in addition to geometry charts, helps me to know how a 
frame will ride and perform.

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[RBW] Very Merry Christmas Tide!

[Justin, Oakland]

Agreed. I am incredibly thankful for the inspiration this group gives me to 
raise my daughter (born at 12:27am today!!!) on bike with positive values. 

Roll on into a new year!

-Justin, currently at Kaiser Permanente in Oakland 

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[RBW] Very Merry Christmas Tide!

[Deacon Patrick]

A very merry Christmas Tide to you and yours! This group, and more importantly, 
the people on it, are a gift I get to open all year. Thank you for all your 
help in guiding and helping me bump and go my way more fully into biking to 
heal my nut!

Here are photos from my last too rides. May you enjoy your hearth and family 
this Yuletide!
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/very-merry-christmas-tide/

With abandon,
Patrick

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www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

[tc]

Rod, that's awesome!  I just set psi to 60 on the front unloaded tire and 
measured max width.  For height (above rim lip), I rested the bottom edge 
of the caliper on the top of the rim; for the top edge of the caliper I 
rested a small spirit level on the top of the tire and measured up to that 
from the rim.  Highly unscientific but at least gets a ballpark measure :)  

Thanks, and happy holidays!

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> If y'all advise me on the preferred methodology for measuring tire height, 
> I've still got those tires mounted on the same rims, and could take a 
> measurement and report.
>
> rod
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[RBW] Re: My gift to the bunch

[Broccoli Cog]

Thank you Marty! Riv bikes head badges are so cool. I love seeing them all 
in one place!

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>
> With the introduction of the Frank Jones model, not to mention a few 
> others, I was reminded it's been two years since I updated the Rivendell 
> badge poster. As with the last iteration, I have uploaded two sizes to my 
> Flickr page where you can download and print as you like. One is 18X24, the 
> other is 9X12. Both are 300dpi so the detail should come through. Since the 
> last one I did in 2015, a few of the versions have had to go to make room 
> for the new ones. I did the best I could with available photos I found on 
> line, or that people have sent. I never get tired of looking at all these 
> great badges - a fitting legacy for the busy crew of elves in Walnut Creek. 
>
> Hope everyone has a nice holiday season and a ride-perfect new year ahead. 
>
> Marty
> Stewartstown, Pennsylvania
>
>
> 
>
>
> 18X24 file can be downloaded here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/38299689265/in/photostream/
>
>
> And the 9X12 here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/24315614747/in/photostream/
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[RBW] Re: Panaracer Gravel King 650b x 48mm Tire Experiences. Actual Width?

[Dave Grossman]

measured my Horizons for you.  I have them tubeless on Pacenti TL28s.  
Measure about 49mm.

>
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[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

[Bill Lindsay]

Mark in Beacon and LBleriot don’t like me calling the Roadini a stripped down 
race bike. Then they go on to describe using the Roadini with no fenders, no 
lighting and no racks. 

A road bike with no fenders, no lights, no racks and no luggage is a stripped 
down race bike in my book. So we agree!  

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

[Patrick Moore]

Gary: sorry if you have answered this before, but: How does the Roadini
ride compared to the Roadeo?

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> I agree with Mark.  I would not describe the Roadini as a “stripped down
> race bike’” at least not in the modern racer sense.  To me, the Roadini is
> a basic, not too light/ not too heavy road bike.  I think of it as a
> partially lugged San Marcos; maybe a little more sprite.  I’ve been riding
> the snot out of it on the road, paths, and smooth single track.  It’s my
> fender less winter road bike.  I use it when I don’t want risk messing up
> the paint and parts on my Roadeo.  Sorry I can’t compare it the other bikes
> mentioned by the OP.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Reader index?

[Patrick Moore]

This could be a fascinating thread. Book sections: history of Rivendell,
from the BBUSA days; a frames and bikes section, full color plates; a
luggage section; a clothing section; etc. Luggage: from the very first,
kitchen table saddle wedges to the more than L Vuiton luggage of today (I'm
not criticizing, just describing). Those early jerseys that buttoned up the
shoulder, with nut buttons. Staff bicycles. Customs. Unusual builds. The
NOS inventory that kept Riv going in the early years.

This could be a series of books, as long but not as tedious, as the
Chronicles of Barsetshire.

Patrick Moore, who actually read the Chronicles of Barsetshire but wouldn't
do it now.

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> I love the idea of the book and would love to buy it. Through in some
> pictures of Riv Bikes over the years and it would be a must buy. Does
> anyone know how to download or purchase past issues?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Reader index?

[Jonathan D.]

I love the idea of the book and would love to buy it. Through in some pictures 
of Riv Bikes over the years and it would be a must buy. Does anyone know how to 
download or purchase past issues?

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[RBW] Re: Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

[LBleriot]

I agree with Mark.  I would not describe the Roadini as a “stripped down race 
bike’” at least not in the modern racer sense.  To me, the Roadini is a basic, 
not too light/ not too heavy road bike.  I think of it as a partially lugged 
San Marcos; maybe a little more sprite.  I’ve been riding the snot out of it on 
the road, paths, and smooth single track.  It’s my fender less winter road 
bike.  I use it when I don’t want risk messing up the paint and parts on my 
Roadeo.  Sorry I can’t compare it the other bikes mentioned by the OP. 

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[RBW] PSA: 58 Quickbeam for sale

[Richard Rios]

just a FYI to any interested party, the bike ran through my hands...there is a 
dent on the top tube under the Paul sticker and the point of the seat lug was 
knocked down damaged during shipping to me. The bike seemed to have lived a 
very loved life and then moved on. Plenty of beausage. I'm not a price police 
kinda guy but stuff you might like to know prior to reaching out on the bike 
for asking price. If it's the same owner I sold it to he was a pretty nice guy 
I wouldn't heasisitate to reach out to him with questions. 

best,
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[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

[Bill Lindsay]

I will take Darin’s answer to mean that Compass did not say if this batch of 
Barlow Pass tires came in heavy due to having more tread or heavier casing or 
something else. They just came in heavy. 

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[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

[DarinM]

A little heavy compared to the sizes above and below the Barlow’s. I was told 
that the stated weight on their website is correct.

Darin

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[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

[Rod Holland]

If y'all advise me on the preferred methodology for measuring tire height, I've 
still got those tires mounted on the same rims, and could take a measurement 
and report.

rod

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[RBW] My gift to the bunch

[Paul Y]

Thanks so much Marty, this is splendid! Definitely printing and framing!

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[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

[Bill Lindsay]

Darin said Compass confirmed Barlow Pass tires came in a little heavy. 

Did they say where the weight is?  Is it a heavier tread?  Is it heavier 
casing?  Or some combination?  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca. 

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[RBW] PSA: 58 Quickbeam for sale

[tc]

Don't know the seller, happened upon it this morning:
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6436369731.html

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[RBW] Re: Fenderless Sam: Snoqualmie or Barlow Pass?

[tc]

Thanks Drew, good to know you've actually done it, albeit with Racers.  
Theoretically 44's should work on a rim as narrow as 17mm per this Maxxis 
article,
THE RIGHT TYRE WIDTH ON THE RIGHT RIM WIDTH 
On
 
ibob I found this post by Rod Holland 
, 
who mounted Snoqualmie EL's on a 17.5mm rim and they measured only 40.49mm 
wide...which width-wise would fit no problem.  I guess his narrow width 
measurement isn't so surprising given the narrow rim.  Don't know his 
pressure nor tire height, but I would imagine all that material has to go 
somewhere, and that would be 'up', as in height.  Nor do I know the diff in 
width/height of EL's compared to standard.

After the hustle-bustle of the holidays are over I will try to find out 
what the tire profile measurements are for standard Snoqualmie's on a 
18-19mm rim and see if they'd fit under my R559's. I'm thinking the height 
might be the killer there.

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 9:04:55 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
> Don't know about brakes, but 44 on a 18-19 rim shouldn't be an issue. I 
> had 50mm marathons on dyads (I think they are 19mm internal) on a Sam and 
> there was nothing close to an issue that came up. This was with Paul 
> racers. I'd bet the 559's clear 44mm just fine. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reader index?

[MartyG]

Even more fun are the pre-Rivendell issues of the Bob Gazette!



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[RBW] Re: My gift to the bunch

[Tony DeFilippo]

Marty - thanks for continuing to keep this up.  It's marvelous!

Jeffery - I'll take you up on the discount as well thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Wool Fire Sale! (Arm Warmers and Shirts/Jersey)

[Jon BALER]

PM sent.

On Saturday, December 23, 2017 at 2:51:21 PM UTC-5, Jenny wrote:
>
> Fight off the chill with wool!
>
> - 1 pair Smart Wool Arm Warmers, grey color, size small/medium (barely 
> used)
> - 1 Ibex short sleeve u-sixty t-shirt, short sleeve, blue, size small 
> (men) (new)
> - 1 Wooly Warm short sleeve cycling shirt with back pocket, blue, size 
> medium (men, runs lean) (barely used)
> - 1 Patagonia merino light weight zip neck, long sleeve shirt, light 
> green, size small (women) (new)
> - 1 Ibex Giro Cycling Jersey with back pocket, short sleeve, light purple 
> and dark brown, size small (women) (new)
> - 1 Ibex zip neck, long sleeve shirt, sky blue, size small (women) (new)
>
> Fire sale - bundle deal for $75.  $20 each for cherry pickers.  Includes 
> shipping via USPS.
>
> https://pix.sfly.com/k7gwrO
>
> Jenny
>
> Baltimore, MD
>

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