[RBW] WTB 3 x 9 brifters

[Joe Bernard]

You'll need a doohickey if you're running v-brakes (I assume that's what "long 
reach" refers to). I tried 9-speed Sora brifters with mini-v's and it was 
sort-of-ok-not-great..regular v-brakes definitely won't work. 

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[RBW] Rivendell Clem L in size 52; $2,625 shipped to CONUS, grilver color, Riv custom build

[Joe Bernard]

We're going to need pics and a parts list to explain how you managed to pay so 
much for a bike that sells complete from Riv for $1600. 

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[RBW] Rivendell Clem L in size 52; $2,625 shipped to CONUS, grilver color, Riv custom build

[Derek Allen]

I paid $3,450 from Rivdendell, rec’d the bike on DEC 12, my wife ride it once 
for less than 15 miles.  She needs to have hip surgery and I need to sell the 
bike.  Asking $2,500 plus $125 shipped if not picking it up in Washington D.C. 
area.  It is in pristine condition.  I have the original invoice, box, and 
packing materials from Rivendell.  

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[RBW] Re: FS: Updated List (QB, Bags, Rack, etc)

[SpiralCage]

Update:

Sold: The Campee Rack, Nigel Smyth Saddlebag and Musa shorts.  

Still available: Quickbeam, Ostrich Bags

cheers,
Robert

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:12:41 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>
> Riv-sters,
> I've gone through my closet and am updating my ongoing sale.
>
>
> 
>
> Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm. $800 Full details here:
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6548824667.html
>  
>
Quickbeam gallery:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157633309416243
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> *Ostrich F-106 Rando Bag.*  $75 OBO
> This is the less tall of their two sizes. Includes a Velo Orange decaluer 
> attachment. Bag is in great shape, no damage to it and includes all of the 
> straps and the rain cover. I ended up preferring a basket on the front of 
> my bicycle.
> More pics: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=boxybag_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>
>
> 
>
> *Ostrich S-2 Saddlebag*  $50 OBO
> Great medium size olive canvas Ostrich saddlebag. The canvas, straps and 
> everything are in great condition. HOWEVER there is a metal bar at the top 
> that it supports it and it has torn through the canvas on one side and is 
> working its way through on the other. This never hindered my use, I'd just 
> slide it in. But I it could be addressed with a reinforcing patch which I 
> always intended to do. I just ended up with too many saddlebags, so passing 
> it along.
> more pics: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=ostrichs2_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>
> Flickr gallery of all my currently forsale items:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157692626924302
>
>
> thanks for reading,
> Robert
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multimodal analgesia

[James Warren]

"This lawn supervisor was out on a sprinkler maintenance job…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX27AfOEYGc


> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:20 PM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
> 
> Oh man, posted to the wrong group! I apologize for the waste of bandwidth.
> 
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
> 
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
> I don't see why not. What's the FIDES requirement for minimum chainstay 
> length?
> 
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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[RBW] Re: Multimodal analgesia

[Jay Lonner]

Oh man, posted to the wrong group! I apologize for the waste of bandwidth.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:15:36 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
> I don't see why not. What's the FIDES requirement for minimum chainstay 
> length?
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>

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[RBW] Re: Multimodal analgesia

[sameness]

I don't see why not. What's the FIDES requirement for minimum chainstay 
length?

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Multimodal analgesia

[Jay Lonner]

Just wondering how others are approaching this FIDES requirement. Local by 
surgeon is good for one mode, and ketorolac is quite situational, so that 
leaves what, preop acetaminophen and/or gabapentin? If we're moving in that 
direction, could we modify the preop order set at Joe's to include these 
options?

JL

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[RBW] WTB 3 x 9 brifters

[Neil Doran]

Anybody have a set clogging up their parts bin? I wanna try modern shifting on 
my Sam. Shimano drivetrain and Tektro long reach, natch.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Updated List (QB, Bags, Rack, etc)

[Reid Echols]

I’d take that Campee! 

PM coming

Reid in Austin, TX

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Updated List (QB, Bags, Rack, etc)

[Joe Bunik]

hi!
I'll take the Smythe saddlebag, please!
Thanks
Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 4/17/18, SpiralCage  wrote:
> Quickbeam Craigslist info link should be:
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6548824667.html
>
> On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:12:41 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>>
>> Riv-sters,
>> I've gone through my closet and am updating my ongoing sale.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm. $800 Full details here:
>> https://post.craigslist.org/manage/6548824667?action=display=display
>> Quickbeam gallery:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157633309416243
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> *Nigel Smyth Paladin saddlebag*. $35 OBO
>> Well used but the bag and straps are in great condition. One of the
>> buckles has come off from the canvas, but I have it and it could be
>> stiched
>> back on. I've used a lot of Riv bags from Baggins on and this was my
>> favorite saddlebag.
>> More photos of the bag itself as well as mounted on my Atlantis here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=paladin_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Big Nitto 'Campee' Front* rack for 26" wheels (Also would fit 650b it
>> seems to me). $75 OBO
>> This is in very good shape, no scratches on the frame and only some
>> markings around where the bolts were.
>> More pictures here:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=campee_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>> More info from Riv:
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Musa Shorts Large.* $20
>> One pair of Musa shorts in the original butternut size L. In good shape
>> (no rips or tears) and a great riding shorts.  It is just too big for me
>> now. Would also trade for a medium.
>> More pics:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=butternut_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Ostrich F-106 Rando Bag.*  $75 OBO
>> This is the less tall of their two sizes. Includes a Velo Orange decaluer
>>
>> attachment. Bag is in great shape, no damage to it and includes all of the
>>
>> straps and the rain cover. I ended up preferring a basket on the front of
>>
>> my bicycle.
>> More pics:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=boxybag_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> *Ostrich S-2 Saddlebag*  $50 OBO
>> Great medium size olive canvas Ostrich saddlebag. The canvas, straps and
>> everything are in great condition. HOWEVER there is a metal bar at the top
>>
>> that it supports it and it has torn through the canvas on one side and is
>>
>> working its way through on the other. This never hindered my use, I'd just
>>
>> slide it in. But I it could be addressed with a reinforcing patch which I
>>
>> always intended to do. I just ended up with too many saddlebags, so
>> passing
>> it along.
>> more pics:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=ostrichs2_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>>
>> Flickr gallery of all my currently forsale items:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157692626924302
>>
>>
>> thanks for reading,
>> Robert
>>
>>
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[RBW] Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[EasyRider]

Your description of the similarities between the Quickbeam and Atlantis makes 
me wonder if my Bubbe road is in the same neighborhood, as it was designed 
around a SmpleOne fork and prob has stouter tubing than the Quickbeam. It's 
Quickbeam genes were a major reason I bought it. It's not "lively" but it's not 
a slug at all!

Pete
Arlington, VA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Updated List (QB, Bags, Rack, etc)

[SpiralCage]

Quickbeam Craigslist info link should be:
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/6548824667.html

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:12:41 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>
> Riv-sters,
> I've gone through my closet and am updating my ongoing sale.
>
>
> 
>
> Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm. $800 Full details here:
> https://post.craigslist.org/manage/6548824667?action=display=display
> Quickbeam gallery:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157633309416243
>
>
> 
>
>
> *Nigel Smyth Paladin saddlebag*. $35 OBO
> Well used but the bag and straps are in great condition. One of the 
> buckles has come off from the canvas, but I have it and it could be stiched 
> back on. I've used a lot of Riv bags from Baggins on and this was my 
> favorite saddlebag. 
> More photos of the bag itself as well as mounted on my Atlantis here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=paladin_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>
>
> 
>
> *Big Nitto 'Campee' Front* rack for 26" wheels (Also would fit 650b it 
> seems to me). $75 OBO
> This is in very good shape, no scratches on the frame and only some 
> markings around where the bolts were.
> More pictures here: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=campee_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
> More info from Riv: 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075
>
>
> 
>
> *Musa Shorts Large.* $20
> One pair of Musa shorts in the original butternut size L. In good shape 
> (no rips or tears) and a great riding shorts.  It is just too big for me 
> now. Would also trade for a medium.
> More pics: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=butternut_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>
>
> 
>
> *Ostrich F-106 Rando Bag.*  $75 OBO
> This is the less tall of their two sizes. Includes a Velo Orange decaluer 
> attachment. Bag is in great shape, no damage to it and includes all of the 
> straps and the rain cover. I ended up preferring a basket on the front of 
> my bicycle.
> More pics: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=boxybag_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>
>
> 
>
> *Ostrich S-2 Saddlebag*  $50 OBO
> Great medium size olive canvas Ostrich saddlebag. The canvas, straps and 
> everything are in great condition. HOWEVER there is a metal bar at the top 
> that it supports it and it has torn through the canvas on one side and is 
> working its way through on the other. This never hindered my use, I'd just 
> slide it in. But I it could be addressed with a reinforcing patch which I 
> always intended to do. I just ended up with too many saddlebags, so passing 
> it along.
> more pics: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=ostrichs2_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
>
> Flickr gallery of all my currently forsale items:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157692626924302
>
>
> thanks for reading,
> Robert
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bill's 57cm Legolas build thread

[Deacon Patrick]

Bill, 42 x 27 is an impressive low gear! On my QB, my low is 44x21 (57”) and 
that requires some LCG on the steeper sections, some of them because I spin out 
in the power stroke on the loose stuff. With my 38 x 22 (47”) gear on Shadowfax 
I get up those just fine, though that’s also with a wider tire. I find the 34 x 
22 (42”) gear too low, but figure it’ll come in handy when climbing 
bikepacking. Grin. Not that this says anything, but when there are “sponsored” 
riders on “real” mountain bikes, they spin up those when I walk them and I’m 
often moving faster than them and I often pass them soon after. I love your 
approach of it’s a challenge not a constraint! Enjoy!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[Metin Uz]

I have done the Adventure Series rides. They are all challenging, but I 
found the 200k and the 600k to be hardest for different reasons. 

The 200k has a lot of technical dirt sections, and much opportunity to make 
up time if you approach the dirt sections with caution, as I have. 

The 600k used to be held in June to take advantage of longer daylight. The 
heat and the remote locations became a real issue, so now the brevets are 
held in distance order. So less of an issue with heat, but more riding at 
night. Some riders ride through, most sleep for a few hours in either 
shared rooms or get their own room. For local riders, this ride can be 
compared to riding Devil Mountain Double and Terrible Two on successive 
days, with the added difficulty of heavier bikes and no support.

In contrast, the 300k is relatively easy, and should be within reach of 
most riders who can ride a double century. The dirt sections are relatively 
short and not too technical. The 400k has a lot of climbing, some of it 
steep, and chances are you will be riding all night. 

--Metin

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:42:44 PM UTC-7, nash...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Those are very intimidating numbers.  How do you train for something like 
> that?  Where do you sleep?  

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[RBW] FS: Updated List (QB, Bags, Rack, etc)

[SpiralCage]

Riv-sters,
I've gone through my closet and am updating my ongoing sale.



Rivendell Quickbeam 58cm. $800 Full details here:
https://post.craigslist.org/manage/6548824667?action=display=display
Quickbeam gallery:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157633309416243




*Nigel Smyth Paladin saddlebag*. $35 OBO
Well used but the bag and straps are in great condition. One of the buckles 
has come off from the canvas, but I have it and it could be stiched back 
on. I've used a lot of Riv bags from Baggins on and this was my favorite 
saddlebag. 
More photos of the bag itself as well as mounted on my Atlantis here:
https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=paladin_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1



*Big Nitto 'Campee' Front* rack for 26" wheels (Also would fit 650b it 
seems to me). $75 OBO
This is in very good shape, no scratches on the frame and only some 
markings around where the bolts were.
More pictures here: 
https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=campee_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1
More info from Riv: 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-20075



*Musa Shorts Large.* $20
One pair of Musa shorts in the original butternut size L. In good shape (no 
rips or tears) and a great riding shorts.  It is just too big for me now. 
Would also trade for a medium.
More pics: 
https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=butternut_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1



*Ostrich F-106 Rando Bag.*  $75 OBO
This is the less tall of their two sizes. Includes a Velo Orange decaluer 
attachment. Bag is in great shape, no damage to it and includes all of the 
straps and the rain cover. I ended up preferring a basket on the front of 
my bicycle.
More pics: 
https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=boxybag_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1



*Ostrich S-2 Saddlebag*  $50 OBO
Great medium size olive canvas Ostrich saddlebag. The canvas, straps and 
everything are in great condition. HOWEVER there is a metal bar at the top 
that it supports it and it has torn through the canvas on one side and is 
working its way through on the other. This never hindered my use, I'd just 
slide it in. But I it could be addressed with a reinforcing patch which I 
always intended to do. I just ended up with too many saddlebags, so passing 
it along.
more pics: 
https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc_search=1=ostrichs2_id=35237104136%40N01_all=1

Flickr gallery of all my currently forsale items:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/albums/72157692626924302


thanks for reading,
Robert

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[Jim M.]

I echo Mojo's opinion from riding my QB and Legolas. QB is an extremely 
comfortable bike, handles well, and is stout enough for a load. Leg' is a 
race bike, and what I find to be nimble handling, other riders occasionally 
call too active. I wouldn't put too much of a load on a Legolas. I've been 
able to ride Roadeos too, and they feel a lot like a Legolas. I notice the 
slightly lower bottom bracket height, but I don't think that's better or 
worse.

jim m
walnut creek, ca

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-7, Mojo wrote:
>
> John,
>
> I have a Quickbeam and Legolas and they are very different bikes. 
>
> The Q is fun as you describe, but it behaves like the touring bike it is. 
> The tubing is stout and feels it. Visually the lugs are understated and the 
> paint is tough and relatively thick. 
>
> The Legolas on the other hand is a racing bike with lighter tubes. The 
> bike jumps with any input. It climbs wonderfully. Visually the lugs are 
> fanciful and the paint enhances them. It is not up to a Joe Bell paint job 
> that I have on another bike, but it approaches.
>
> If memory serves, the handling was similar but I have long since changed 
> the Legolas to low trail.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/7832253824/in/dateposted-public/lightbox/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6922766182/in/dateposted-public/ 
> with the original fork
>
> Joe in GJT
>
> On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 7:49:40 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I’ve been really enjoying my new-to-me Quickbeam. I love the simplicity 
>> of its single speed setup, but its geometry, handling, and ride quality 
>> (and my particular fit on a 62cm) have truly impressed me. 
>>
>> I’m looking to take my aged Mercian Superlight out of heavy rotation, and 
>> I’ve been pondering a Roadeo for a few years. I’m curious if anyone has 
>> experience with both a Quickbeam AND a Roadeo (or Legolas), and would like 
>> to share their thoughts. And yes, I get that one has gears and the other 
>> does not. 
>>
>> It’s also been fun to note the slight similarities between my Atlantis 
>> and the Quickbeam. It’s hard to pin it down, but they remind me a bit of 
>> each other in the way they ride. A certain calmness, a feeling of 
>> predictability and reassurance...then again, it could be my imagination.
>
>

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[RBW] Someone else selling new Rambouillets

[Lum Gim Fong]

Not just Alex's anymore

I wonder why they are selling Rambouillets, and not other models, too.

https://www.cycle-yoshida.com/pc/syousai.php?SYOCODE=00380079

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[RBW] Re: Prague to Paris route help

['pb' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Esteban,

As I am linear and pragmatic, I also went to Google Maps to look at the 
route.  It does not offer a cycling option, BUT!  If you choose the walking 
option, suddenly the route is diverted to smaller roads and smaller towns, 
and it's actually more direct than the highway driving route.  Occasionally 
the route jumps onto a regional road, but not for long, and then back to 
small, local roads.  I crept along the route for a while, and frankly, 
found it pretty compelling.  Unfortunately, street view is generally not 
available, but you can also look at the route on Google Earth, and zoom 
fairly tightly into the streets.  It looked schweeet. 

My bet is that navigation would  prove pretty easy, if you took small bites 
for each section.  Maybe possible to load the route into a Garmin, but 
you'd have to buy the Europe maps if you don't already have them, but I 
have to say, it's nice having a guide tell you how to get back on the route 
if you have any time concerns.  I assume you'll have phone service?  I buy 
local SIM cards when I'm in Europe...  navigation eats them up faster than 
other functions, but if you can find Wi-Fi you can load a new section 
without consuming mobile data.  You might even be able to preview each 
day's route on Google Earth.  Or just mail order paper and mark the maps up 
before departure.   

I wondered whether some of it might be walking paths, but everywhere I 
zoomed in, I was on a paved street.  It looked utterly do-able.  Nuremberg 
looks like about a midpoint if you wanted to make things cake.  

~pb 
  
 

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 9:55:59 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:

> The links shared promise to be quite helpful - thanks!
>
> The good vibes expressed are also much appreciated. 
>
> Hoping for some humble down-home bikey fun in California later this summer.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[Bill Lindsay]

You train for a hilly 200k by riding hills until you can do a hilly 100k 
and feel good afterwards.  
You train for a hilly 300k by riding a hilly 200k.
You train for a hilly 400k by riding a hilly 300k
You train for a hilly 600k by riding a hilly 400k

I'm only half being snarky.  Each event in the series builds on the 
previous events.  Each event is the training for the next one.  If you 
finish the 300k and feel like you know you can't handle anything more, then 
don't do the next event.  If you feel up to it, bring it on.  

Sleep arrangements are very personal planning exercises.  This adventure 
series 600k has a time limit of 40 hours, and it is my understanding that a 
VERY strong VERY fast rider might have time to sleep 3 hours or so.  On a 
'normal' 600k, some people get a full night's sleep.  Some nap in the lobby 
of rural Post Offices.  Some get a motel room.  The Orr Springs 600k, which 
is the 40 hour, 375 mile ride, the club will have a hotel room at mile 
217.  When you get there, if you want to nap for a bit, there will be a 
place to nap for a bit.  Some will arrange drop-bags there, so they can 
take a shower and put on fresh clothes.  It's definitely something that you 
work up to.  I've done a couple dozen 200k events and a half-dozen 300k 
events but never a 400 or longer.  That may change in the future, but it's 
not in the cards right now.   

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 2:42:44 PM UTC-7, nash...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Those are very intimidating numbers.  How do you train for something like 
> that?  Where do you sleep?  

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[RBW] Re: Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[nash5510]

Those are very intimidating numbers.  How do you train for something like that? 
 Where do you sleep?  

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[RBW] Re: Prague to Paris route help

[Deacon Patrick]

Esteban, Have a wondrous trip! I was blessed to tour Europe after high school, 
too ignorant to use wider tires, and so was “stuck” on the well paved and 
uncobbled path save for the jarring times I found myself with no option but 
unsmooth road. Oh! How I long to tour Europe on a proper bike, with abandon! So 
glad you’re smarter than me! Grin. Tour with abandon!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[Bill Lindsay]

More information is contained in this Google Docs slide deck on the whole 
series:

SFR Adventure 


On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-7, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Bill,
>
> Thank you for sharing the promotional. It is possibly the most 
> professionally produced video I have seen for an adventure series. For the 
> lazy, where is the series schedule?
>
> By the way, if you happen to be in CO on May 5 with an itch for 
> early-season fun, the RMCC Anti-epic takes in the best of the Palmer Divide 
> in medium and large doses 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
> William M deRosset
> Fort Collins CO USA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[Bill Lindsay]

The links in the text below the video were:

More information, visit: https://ridebike.org/sfr/adventure/ 

 
San Francisco Randonneurs: https://sfrandonneurs.org/ 


The first link is just info and schedule for the Adventure Series
The second link is to the SFR main page which contains the entire SFR 
offerings, including the Adventure Series

Bill

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-7, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Bill,
>
> Thank you for sharing the promotional. It is possibly the most 
> professionally produced video I have seen for an adventure series. For the 
> lazy, where is the series schedule?
>
> By the way, if you happen to be in CO on May 5 with an itch for 
> early-season fun, the RMCC Anti-epic takes in the best of the Palmer Divide 
> in medium and large doses 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
> William M deRosset
> Fort Collins CO USA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[Deacon Patrick]

Quickbeam Hunqabeam here, so not what you’re asking about, but I’ve been 
fascinated by similarities and differences as I ride Shadowfax (my Hunqabeam) 
after riding the Quickbeam exclusively for six months. Much as Jim does, I 
ascribed many of the differences between the then Hunqapillar and QB to 
drivetrain deltas. Now, drivetrain is identical between, as are handlebar/stem. 
The only differences between them are geometry, tubing, and tire width (38mm 
knobbie vs. 2.1” knobbie).

Similarities: quinticential Rivendell smooth, stable ride and easy yet 
responsive handling.
Differences: Shadowfax rolls over rocks and roots and even smooths out 
washboard better, yet I felt the tire inertia for the first ride or so (now 
it’s invisible to me). Shadowfax is more comfortable on the rough stuff and 
with a load. Quickbeam is spritely and geared higher. Interestingly, my ride 
times in the 71” QB and the 61” Shadowfax are nearly identical (though I donb’t 
time things to the second — they are within a minute or so of each other). I 
had thought Shadowfax would be my loaded bike, QB my dayload bike. It’s not 
going to be that simple, and that’s a fantastic “problem” to have! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Clem Smith Jr build by Analog: lots of pics and nerd details

[Nancy Seibel]

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 4:24:34 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
> New post up on the Analog Cycles website.  Updates on our w(Right) stem 
> project as well as a recent rad Clem build we did.  1x11 gearing with 11-46 
> rear spread.  Set up as a do everything whip.  What we used to call a 
> Whatevering bike.  Lots of pics and details in the article.  If you have 
> questions, email me.  We're getting ready to move our shop 500 miles north, 
> and too busy to reply to big comment threads! 
>
> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/04/15/a-1x11-clem-shop-news/
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Clem Smith Jr build by Analog: lots of pics and nerd details

[Nancy Seibel]

Joe, you're right, I am loving this bike. It's early days yet but Ithe 
first 30-40 miles I spent on it have been a delight. 

Some of you might remember my query a month or so about Clems. It lead to a 
long thread of comments. That was great - it gave me a lot to think about. 
Then came James and Candice's  offer of a reduced price full build on 
existing frames -- and now I'm the happy owner of Clem Jr (which would be a 
Clem L now).

James and I had a thorough conversation prior to finalizing the components. 
Candice did a fantastic job on the build. The components James points out 
in his blog post? Each one of them is great. I'm looking forward to more 
miles together this weekend, when we head out for the Cycle NC Coastal 
Ride. 

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>
> Nancy is going to love that bike. I had one and agree the color is 
> fabulous. 

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[RBW] Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[William deRosset]

Dear Bill,

Thank you for sharing the promotional. It is possibly the most professionally 
produced video I have seen for an adventure series. For the lazy, where is the 
series schedule?

By the way, if you happen to be in CO on May 5 with an itch for early-season 
fun, the RMCC Anti-epic takes in the best of the Palmer Divide in medium and 
large doses 

Cheers,

Will
William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO USA

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[RBW] Shadowfax Build (Hunqabeam Quickapillar)

[Deacon Patrick]

https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/shadowfax
(not sure why the text double posted, no need to read twice!)

With abandon,
Patrick

www.CredoFamily.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: Prague to Paris route help

[Esteban]

Also - sorry - Riv content: if all goes according to plan, I'll ride a 
lugged démontable built by Mark Nobilette. 

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:57:59 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:
>
> Hi, folks.
>
> I'm beginning to chart a course for a ride (or part thereof) across Europe 
> from Prague to Paris. I actually need to get from one city to the other, so 
> looking for safe, enjoyable, but semi-direct routing. Trains can be handy. 
> I can do high mileage days.
>
> Anyone have any resources? Doug has been helpful to me. 
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bill's 57cm Legolas build thread

[Bill Lindsay]

Tim correctly pointed out :  " it would be easy to fit a wider-range 10 
speed cassette with just a rear derailleur swap (9-speed MTB RD), should 
you decide to do so."

This drivetrain is the absolute highest range I would consider.  The steps 
lower include

42T --> 40T
12-27 -->  11-28 --> 12-30

SRAM 10-sp brifter and clutch rear der allowing 11-36 cassette

Double crankset 42/26 with front der

All of the above are easy mods.  Gearing today presents an athletic 
challenge, not a constraint.  :)

Bill

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 11:11:06 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Congrats on the new bike, Bill!  I love the color.  There are too few 
> purple bikes in the world, let alone this gorgeous shade.
>
> The 42x27 will toughen you up, for sure.  And I understand the "climb it, 
> or shoulder it" ethos for cyclocross races.  
>
> And it would be easy to fit a wider-range 10 speed cassette with just a 
> rear derailleur swap (9-speed MTB RD), should you decide to do so.
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> The weather looked lousy yesterday so I did not ride “Sal”. Sure enough, 
>> on my lunch break I rode to the taco  lace and got POUNDED by a 
>> hailstorm. Ouch!
>>
>> Anyway today was clear but cold, and I did the ~25 mile road ride from my 
>> house to Riv HQ. Roman wanted to take some canonical Riv shots for a 
>> potential blog post. I obtained approval from Roman, Will, Corey and Dave. 
>> Mark had the morning off so I missed him. 
>>
>> My ride report had few surprises. It fits like I planned it to fit 
>> (perfectly) and it rides like I planned it to ride (splendidly). It feels 
>> like a very good very fast racing bike. We’ll see if I can handle the 
>> drivetrain. A 42x27 is low enough for many hills but not every hill, unless 
>> I toughen up. 
>>
>> Now that Riv has their photos, it’s time to go get it dirty 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay 
>> El Cerrito Ca
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[RBW] Long Rides to Nowhere: promotional video by SFR

[Bill Lindsay]

San Francisco Randonneurs hosts a ton of "long rides to nowhere".  They are 
delightful people and the routes are mostly delightful as well, regardless 
of what you may think about endurance cycling.  Possibly the most appealing 
part of the SFR Calendar, and perhaps the most Rivvish of these events is 
their Adventure Series, which is a full brevet Series (200, 300, 400, 600) 
featuring a TON of climbing and long sections of unpaved riding.  I did the 
Marin Mountains 200k last Fall and it was my hardest single day on a bike, 
without question.  Bryan, who runs the Adventure Series, did a bunch of 
work with Jenny to make this promotional video.  They held a first showing 
last night, and now the link is live.  (yes, I did see Manny there) Please 
check it out and share it.  It's only 3 minutes long and I think it's 
really well done.  It features music from Ennio Moricone (the 
spaghetti-western music guy).  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpkpQOgTFsQ

Bill #6551 Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bill's 57cm Legolas build thread

[Tim Gavin]

Congrats on the new bike, Bill!  I love the color.  There are too few
purple bikes in the world, let alone this gorgeous shade.

The 42x27 will toughen you up, for sure.  And I understand the "climb it,
or shoulder it" ethos for cyclocross races.

And it would be easy to fit a wider-range 10 speed cassette with just a
rear derailleur swap (9-speed MTB RD), should you decide to do so.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The weather looked lousy yesterday so I did not ride “Sal”. Sure enough,
> on my lunch break I rode to the taco  lace and got POUNDED by a
> hailstorm. Ouch!
>
> Anyway today was clear but cold, and I did the ~25 mile road ride from my
> house to Riv HQ. Roman wanted to take some canonical Riv shots for a
> potential blog post. I obtained approval from Roman, Will, Corey and Dave.
> Mark had the morning off so I missed him.
>
> My ride report had few surprises. It fits like I planned it to fit
> (perfectly) and it rides like I planned it to ride (splendidly). It feels
> like a very good very fast racing bike. We’ll see if I can handle the
> drivetrain. A 42x27 is low enough for many hills but not every hill, unless
> I toughen up.
>
> Now that Riv has their photos, it’s time to go get it dirty
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito Ca
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Quickbeam and Hilsen combo here.

When I go from QB to Hilsen, there's a subtle difference which I often 
ascribe to the shifty bits (and wheelset differences). 

But then when I shift back to the QB (like this past weekend), it reminds 
me how much I really love the way that bike rides.  They are set up quite 
similarly, but the QB always seems a bit more spritely for me.

Maybe the Hilsen is an early Range Rover and the QB more like those early 
Ford Broncos? I'd trust either to get me home over any terrain. But, I'm 
going to drive 'em differently.

I've ridden the Roadeo a few times when visiting RBWHQ and would say that 
I get much the same feeling on that model - more QB like - even though it's 
never been set up exactly the way I would have it if I owned one. 

- Jim

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 6:49:40 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I’ve been really enjoying my new-to-me Quickbeam. I love the simplicity of 
> its single speed setup, but its geometry, handling, and ride quality (and 
> my particular fit on a 62cm) have truly impressed me. 
>
> I’m looking to take my aged Mercian Superlight out of heavy rotation, and 
> I’ve been pondering a Roadeo for a few years. I’m curious if anyone has 
> experience with both a Quickbeam AND a Roadeo (or Legolas), and would like 
> to share their thoughts. And yes, I get that one has gears and the other 
> does not. 
>
> It’s also been fun to note the slight similarities between my Atlantis and 
> the Quickbeam. It’s hard to pin it down, but they remind me a bit of each 
> other in the way they ride. A certain calmness, a feeling of predictability 
> and reassurance...then again, it could be my imagination.

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[RBW] Re: Children, check your tread

[Eric K]

I've heard of folks using sections of old tire with the bead trimmed off 
for tire boots.  Should be plenty tough, though maybe a bit extreme.  Has 
anyone here done this?

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[RBW] Re: Bill's 57cm Legolas build thread

[Bill Lindsay]

The weather looked lousy yesterday so I did not ride “Sal”. Sure enough, on my 
lunch break I rode to the taco  lace and got POUNDED by a hailstorm. Ouch!

Anyway today was clear but cold, and I did the ~25 mile road ride from my house 
to Riv HQ. Roman wanted to take some canonical Riv shots for a potential blog 
post. I obtained approval from Roman, Will, Corey and Dave. Mark had the 
morning off so I missed him. 

My ride report had few surprises. It fits like I planned it to fit (perfectly) 
and it rides like I planned it to ride (splendidly). It feels like a very good 
very fast racing bike. We’ll see if I can handle the drivetrain. A 42x27 is low 
enough for many hills but not every hill, unless I toughen up. 

Now that Riv has their photos, it’s time to go get it dirty 

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] Re: Prague to Paris route help

[Esteban]

The links shared promise to be quite helpful - thanks!

The good vibes expressed are also much appreciated. 

Hoping for some humble down-home bikey fun in California later this summer.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: Prague to Paris route help

['pb' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This could be worth a read

http://europeancycling.blogspot.com/2014/08/paneuropa-cycle-route-paris-to-prague.html

plus more

https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+route+from+prague+to+paris==

~pb

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:57:59 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote:

> Hi, folks.
>
> I'm beginning to chart a course for a ride (or part thereof) across Europe 
> from Prague to Paris. I actually need to get from one city to the other, so 
> looking for safe, enjoyable, but semi-direct routing. Trains can be handy. 
> I can do high mileage days.
>
> Anyone have any resources? Doug has been helpful to me. 
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>

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[RBW] Musa pants for trade

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I bought a pair of small Musa grey and blue pants. They are just a bit too 
small in the butt crack area and am looking to trade them for a medium. A 
little bit of a wedgie thing going on. They are in excellent condition. 
99.9% new. I washed them when I got them, tried them on a few times, hoping 
my butt would get smaller, but nope. I have never worn them outside. Anyone 
looking for a small? My waist is a thirty, and the small fits fine except 
for the butt seam. 

Clayton 
#DirtDanceDesigns

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Thumbies - Black - 22.2mm

[Belopsky]

sold

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Smart Sam Tires - 26 x 2.1" - Folding Bead - $45 shipped Pair

[David B]

Had these on my wife's Clementine after I 'borrowed' the Rat Trap Pass 
tires from her bike for another build, and she prefers the RTPs, so I'm 
going to spring for another pair of those.

So, selling...
Pair of Schwalbe Smart Sams
These are the folding bead version.
26 x 2.1". Very minimal use.
$45 shipping in the US.
Contact offlist if you'd like them.
Thanks,
David
River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Thumbies - Black - 22.2mm

[Belopsky]

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 9:57:07 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Decided not to use these at all. Older type, not the hinge clamp.
> 22.2mm
>
> $40 shipped. No bolts for the shifters.
>

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[RBW] FS: Paul Thumbies - Black - 22.2mm

[Belopsky]

Decided not to use these at all. Older type, not the hinge clamp.
22.2mm

$40 shipped. No bolts for the shifters.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[Bill Lindsay]

If you have access to a telephone, a Legolas is just a phone call away. Mark or 
Roman would be the guys to consult. 

Bill devil-on-this-shoulder Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca

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[RBW] Re: FS - Shimano Tiagra and 105 FDs

[Julian Westerhout]

31.8  105  FDs now all gone. 

On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 5:12:02 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> A correction -- the 105 FDs are model 5700, which means they are 2 x 10s, 
> not 9  speeds. 
>
>
> On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 3:15:57 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>> The local bike co-op where I volunteer recently received a donation of 
>> new, never mounted 9-speed front derailleurs. 
>>
>>
>> I am offering them to the list as follows — prices include shipping w/in 
>> CONUS, Paypal friends/family. All proceeds benefit the West Bloomington 
>> Revitalization Project Bike Co-op.
>>
>>
>> Six 31.8mm clamp silver cage black clamp Shimano 105 front derailleurs — 
>> $10 each
>>
>>
>> Three 34.9 mm clamp silver cage black clamp Shimano 105 front derailleurs 
>> — $10 each
>>
>>
>> Two braze-on mount silver Shimano Tiagra front derailleurs — $10 each
>>
>>
>> Please reply off list. 
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>>
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[Eric Daume]

Man, now I really want a Legolas. Good thing they're as rare as the Elvish
rings.

Eric

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:52 PM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> I have a Quickbeam and Legolas and they are very different bikes.
>
> The Q is fun as you describe, but it behaves like the touring bike it is.
> The tubing is stout and feels it. Visually the lugs are understated and the
> paint is tough and relatively thick.
>
> The Legolas on the other hand is a racing bike with lighter tubes. The
> bike jumps with any input. It climbs wonderfully. Visually the lugs are
> fanciful and the paint enhances them. It is not up to a Joe Bell paint job
> that I have on another bike, but it approaches.
>
> If memory serves, the handling was similar but I have long since changed
> the Legolas to low trail.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/7832253824/in/
> dateposted-public/lightbox/
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/6922766182/in/
> dateposted-public/ with the original fork
>
> Joe in GJT
>
>
> On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 7:49:40 PM UTC-6, John G. wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’ve been really enjoying my new-to-me Quickbeam. I love the simplicity
>> of its single speed setup, but its geometry, handling, and ride quality
>> (and my particular fit on a 62cm) have truly impressed me.
>>
>> I’m looking to take my aged Mercian Superlight out of heavy rotation, and
>> I’ve been pondering a Roadeo for a few years. I’m curious if anyone has
>> experience with both a Quickbeam AND a Roadeo (or Legolas), and would like
>> to share their thoughts. And yes, I get that one has gears and the other
>> does not.
>>
>> It’s also been fun to note the slight similarities between my Atlantis
>> and the Quickbeam. It’s hard to pin it down, but they remind me a bit of
>> each other in the way they ride. A certain calmness, a feeling of
>> predictability and reassurance...then again, it could be my imagination.
>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Roadeo/Legolas

[John G.]

Thank you, Joe! Maybe it’s because an Atlantis is my reference point, but I 
always felt the QB was pretty lively. Great to know that the Legolas is even 
sportier.

Outstanding Legolas, btw. 

Roadeo owners: any comments?

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Re: [RBW] Play in an unweighted pedal

[Deacon Patrick]

Ed, the update is they are replacing them.

With abandon,
Patrick

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