[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Aakash Desai]

A Rivendell frame with a threadless front end would definitely have my 
interested. I've passed on Rivs in the past because of falling out of favor 
with threaded front ends. 

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Christopher Murray]

You say this as if several of the current models COULDNT be female. Do you know 
for sure they aren't?

Sam Hillborne? Samantha. 
A. Homer Hilsen? Allison. 
Joe Appaloosa? Joesefine. 
Clem? Clementine. 

I never thought of them as being boy names or girl names (except for the 
Hilsen). I like the ambiguity. Why do you think there needs to be a girl name?  

Chris

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Justin, Oakland]

If Grant reads this: please pick a woman’s name for the MTB. Perhaps even a 
non-WASPy woman’s name. It’s be a welcome change and I’d love to shred on a 
Ellie Fant, Hilda Clime, Filla Gree, or Some such. 

Just my two cents. 

-J

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[RBW] WTB: Hub Area Racks with hoop

[Birdman]

I’m looking for a hub area rack with hoop. Please let me know if you have one 
you’d be willing to sell of trade.

Thanks,

Isaac
PDX 

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Re: [RBW] My Hack-ville roll tops with Ortlieb hardware

[John Rinker]

Hey Jeff, Thanks for the very cool idea and the info on where to get the 
parts. You da' man!
Cheers, John

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:44:38 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>
> C’est moi. Nicely done!
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:04 PM John Rinker  > wrote:
>
>> A while ago someone asked about bags for the HAR and someone else (Jeff, 
>> maybe) posted photos of Sackville bags with Ortlieb hardware. Awesome idea! 
>>
>> Here are some bags I made sort of based on the Swift Jr. Rangers for a 
>> tour last year. They worked great with the ol' strap on system, but they 
>> are so much better now: locked on tight and quick to take off. Ready for 
>> the GDMBR in July. Thanks Jeff(?)
>>
>> Got the hardware from bikeshophub.com in Tuscon, AZ.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] My Hack-ville roll tops with Ortlieb hardware

[Jeff Lesperance]

C’est moi. Nicely done!

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 8:04 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> A while ago someone asked about bags for the HAR and someone else (Jeff,
> maybe) posted photos of Sackville bags with Ortlieb hardware. Awesome idea!
>
> Here are some bags I made sort of based on the Swift Jr. Rangers for a
> tour last year. They worked great with the ol' strap on system, but they
> are so much better now: locked on tight and quick to take off. Ready for
> the GDMBR in July. Thanks Jeff(?)
>
> Got the hardware from bikeshophub.com in Tuscon, AZ.
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: My Hack-ville roll tops with Ortlieb hardware

[Ron Mc]

Great solution, Lone Peak also sells their nice locking pannier hooks
https://lonepeakpacks.com/index.php/packs/pannier-hooks.html  



and their bungee S-hook hardware for the bottom

https://lonepeakpacks.com/index.php/packs/pb-020.html


On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:04:40 PM UTC-5, John Rinker wrote:
>
> A while ago someone asked about bags for the HAR and someone else (Jeff, 
> maybe) posted photos of Sackville bags with Ortlieb hardware. Awesome idea! 
>
> Here are some bags I made sort of based on the Swift Jr. Rangers for a 
> tour last year. They worked great with the ol' strap on system, but they 
> are so much better now: locked on tight and quick to take off. Ready for 
> the GDMBR in July. Thanks Jeff(?)
>
> Got the hardware from bikeshophub.com in Tuscon, AZ.
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[iamkeith]

"Ridable prototypes by mid July!"  That might just coincide with my first visit 
to the bay area in a couple of decades, and what I hope to be my first ever 
visit to RBW HQ.  Yipee.

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[RBW] Re: 26er vs 29er

[Garth]

Dance with the one you brought with you to the dance.  Oh sure  others 
may look a little a little more polished, dance a little swifter  the 
list goes on . but there's no dancin' like the dance with the one in 
your forever presence .

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[RBW] My Hack-ville roll tops with Ortlieb hardware

[John Rinker]

A while ago someone asked about bags for the HAR and someone else (Jeff, 
maybe) posted photos of Sackville bags with Ortlieb hardware. Awesome idea! 

Here are some bags I made sort of based on the Swift Jr. Rangers for a tour 
last year. They worked great with the ol' strap on system, but they are so 
much better now: locked on tight and quick to take off. Ready for the GDMBR 
in July. Thanks Jeff(?)

Got the hardware from bikeshophub.com in Tuscon, AZ.

Cheers, John







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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Grant also stated that he is working on a new book!  



On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 4:09:16 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> Grant's BLAHG for today (11 June 2018) links to a (very good) radio 
> interview he did.  During that interview, he confirmed a non-disc, 
> non-squish MTB is in the works.  As for other attributes the bike may or 
> may not have, I don't remember any that were mentioned ... though it 
> *might* have longish chainstays ... I'm not sure I heard that part 
> correctly, though.  To be available sometime around Jan or Feb 2019.  
> Prototypes might be available in a couple of months.
>
> Tom
>
> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>>
>> This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if 
>> you can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think 
>> there might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to 
>> an existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday 
>> 
>> : 
>>
>> In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The 
>>> early guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a 
>>> basic good level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now 
>>> they've borrowed as much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. 
>>> There are reactions to it the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, but 
>>> those are fading fast because...one gear is too limiting for varied 
>>> terrain. *There's no restraint at that end, and we're going to show 'em 
>>> all what-for sometime late this year, if we can pull it off.*
>>
>>
>> I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
>> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag 
>> order)?  Some other new trail-oriented rig?
>>
>> Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB 
>> (well...a threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting 
>> anything, but it would be interesting to see what they come up with.  
>>
>> Let the speculation begin! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 26er vs 29er

[adam leibow]

for bikepacking/offroad touring, 29er is what i'd choose. i have a 29er 
hunqapillar (54cm) and it rides really nice. it's as much of a mountain 
bike as touring bike, which means it's just really useful. i also have a 
crust evasion 26"+ which fills the same niche, but in a very different way. 
i like both styles of bike and wouldn't say one's better than the other. 
this all being said, i probably wouldn't use a 26" mountain bike for 
serious offroad touring unless it were a plus tire mounted to a wide rim 
(like the evasion), or if i were very short. 

On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:59:12 AM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Alright y'all, help me work out this inner quandary I've had over getting 
> a new bike or not (to replace one in my stable). The demo Hunqs shown on 
> the blug are really making my insides jump at the thought of a 29er Hunq 
> for offroad riding/bikepacking.
>
> I have 4 bikes, and I've tried specializing each (to an extent) because in 
> essence 3 of them are all-rounder type frames. I've turned one of them, a 
> 26er XO-1 clone, into my off-road tourer. 2.1" knobbies for trails, RTP for 
> roads/gravel, frame bag, front panniers, Swift saddle bag, On-One Mary bars 
> + Ergon grips, the whole getup. Recently I've been dabbling into resources 
> around 27.5 and 29er bikes for bikepacking (i.e. Surly Bridge Club and 
> Hunq), feeling that my 26er might not be the best choice nowadays in 
> today's landscape of bike options, falling short in the jack-of-all-trades 
> master-of-none kind of way.
>
> What I keep telling myself is the old adage that really, any bike will do 
> the trick (for the most part), and that my 26er XO-1 clone is a fine bike 
> for off-road touring. Plus, people rode (and ride) 26" MTBs for a lng 
> time and all was good. I don't ride offroad *that* much, but nowadways 
> when I plan multi-day trips they're geared toward mixed terrain**. I don't 
> doubt that a jump from my XO-1 clone to a Hunq would in itself make a huge 
> difference in ride quality, but in terms of wheel size, would swapping to a 
> 29er really make that big a difference?
>
> Thank you for your insight!
>
> Erik in Philly
>
> **Right now I'm in the midst of planning to ride a portion of the Idaho 
> Hot Springs MTB route in September.
>

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[RBW] Re: My new Sam is complete!

[d2mini]

The hubs are Velo Orange Grand Cru, laced to polished Velocity Atlas rims. 
:)



On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:18:24 AM UTC-5, Beaverton Bob wrote:
>
> Wonderful build. Like many here, I am a Sam owner myself. I will second 
> the suggestion of getting it (at least slightly) dirty!!
>
> Trying to look at the pics in my phone, but are those White Industries 
> hubs? If so, nice touch.
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Philip Williamson]

That's an impressive ride. I may try cutting that into four separate 
weekend rides. 
Great write-up!

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 9:33:08 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Last Fall I did the Marin Mountains 200k and speculated that it might be 
> the hardest 200k brevet the RUSA catalog.  Yesterday, San Francisco 
> Randonneurs hosted La Ruta Loca, and the route owner Carlos (#4841) is 
> pretty certain this course is harder. It was definitely a monster. "The 
> Crazy Route" was crazy hard, and crazy fun. The main stats are: 125.3 
> miles, ~50 miles of dirt, and 13,051ft of climbing. Here's my Ride with gps 
> data:  https://ridewithgps.com/trips/24131333
>
>
> The weather report called for ideal temperatures, low 50s in the early 
> morning, slight general overcast and not many spots even approaching 75 
> degrees.  According to Rob Hawks, 25 riders gathered in the dense fog at 
> Crissy Field East Beach.  The pavement was very wet, like after a hard 
> rain. It was only fog, and there were times during the ride where I wished 
> the fog would come back. The only threatening part of the weather report 
> called for strong winds from the Northwest. I went with El Cerrito High 
> School racing kit, along with matching arm warmers, a reflective vest and 
> that's all. I was chilly to start but it worked out perfectly. The 
> armwarmers didn't come off until I was back in my van after the finish.
>
>
> 
>
> I was trying to travel light as I wasn't bringing a lot of bag-space on my 
> Black Mountain Monster Cross. The bike's nickname alternates between Green 
> Meanie and Mean Greenie. I ran a 2x10 drivetrain, 42/26 in front, 11-36 in 
> back. My 700x43 Bruce Gordon Rock and Roads were about 'average' for the 
> tires I saw people running. Some of the bikes present were classic 
> rando-machines with Hetres or similar. Some were fully contemporary 'all 
> road' bikes with 27.5" Thunder Burts.  I only saw one flat bar mountain 
> bike, but now that I've done the route, I wouldn't hesitate to bring a 
> light XC mountain bike. At about 5:50AM we gathered for a pre-ride chat, 
> and the solemn SFR oath promising "not to do stupid stuff". At 6AM sharp we 
> were off towards the Golden Gate Bridge heading North into Marin County.
>
>
> Unlike most other SFR routes, we didn't have to meander all willy nilly 
> through Sausalito, Mill Valley, Ross and the other southern Marin towns. 
> Instead we got right off the bridge and headed straight up into the Marin 
> headlands and got off-road immediately. The ride ended up being three 
> distinct sections. Section 1 was an epic 50 mile mountain bike ride, 
> punctuated with just a few paved connectors. Section 2 would be a basically 
> flat road ride punctuated by a few gravel stretches. Section 3 would be 
> another 30 mile mountain bike ride up and over Mount Tam. The first big 
> dirt climb was Miwok Trail, which started to sort people out, especially on 
> the descent of Old Springs. There was a broad array of offroad descending 
> skills on display. Some would bomb the descents 'full-send', while others 
> were quite timid. I landed somewhere in the middle. Throughout the day, I 
> would notice tight corners on a soft trail where a skid mark went straight 
> when the trail curved. The clear indication was that this was caused by a 
> rider who brought too much speed and not enough tire into that corner. The 
> clear message was that there was not going to be much long-term grouping up 
> of riders. It's hard to match skills exactly, and since this course was 
> going to be hard to finish within the 13:30 limit, waiting around was not a 
> smart option. I briefly latched on to a strong group up the steep technical 
> Deer Park climb, led out by Paul on a cyclocross race bike. I let them pace 
> me up the climb, but gathered pretty quickly that this would be the lead 
> group, and I would let them go after a while to 'do my own ride' and 
> conserve my energy. I could tell Paul was serious when he indicated he 
> saved weight by only filling one full water bottle at the start because he 
> planned to stop for water at the Pan Toll Ranger Station at the top of Deer 
> Park. While he did that, I had plenty and went ahead. He passed me shortly 
> after that on the road climb to the tippy top of Mount Tam and I wouldn't 
> see him again. That long climb included some paved riding up Pan Toll and 
> Ridgecrest, but quickly got onto the Lagunitas-RockSprings trail and hit 
> the highest elevation of the day, about 2200 feet. It felt good to be done 
> with the longest steady individual climb and to be at the high point of the 
> route at mile 23. It was just a down-hill century remaining, right?  
> RIGHT?  
>
>
> The Lagunitas-Rock Springs descent is steep and loose and dangerous. It's 
> not a descent you use 

[RBW] Re: New Atlantis! - First Riv

[tc]

Really handsome bike, Brian - congrats!  I have the continental contact 
speed tires on my SimpleOne (42s I think) and really like them.

I recently mounted a rear rack on my older Atlantis and am using Banjo 
Brothers' "Market Panniers" for mid-week grocery hauling.  Such a stable 
bike, handled the ~25LB load kike it was nothing, though admittedly that's 
only about 1/2 the max I should be able to haul back there.

I'm sure you'll have fun figuring out everything that bike can do!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[tc]

Grant's BLAHG for today (11 June 2018) links to a (very good) radio 
interview he did.  During that interview, he confirmed a non-disc, 
non-squish MTB is in the works.  As for other attributes the bike may or 
may not have, I don't remember any that were mentioned ... though it 
*might* have longish chainstays ... I'm not sure I heard that part 
correctly, though.  To be available sometime around Jan or Feb 2019.  
Prototypes might be available in a couple of months.

Tom

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if 
> you can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think 
> there might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to 
> an existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday 
> 
> : 
>
> In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The 
>> early guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a 
>> basic good level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now 
>> they've borrowed as much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. 
>> There are reactions to it the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, but 
>> those are fading fast because...one gear is too limiting for varied 
>> terrain. *There's no restraint at that end, and we're going to show 'em 
>> all what-for sometime late this year, if we can pull it off.*
>
>
> I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag 
> order)?  Some other new trail-oriented rig?
>
> Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB 
> (well...a threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting 
> anything, but it would be interesting to see what they come up with.  
>
> Let the speculation begin! 
>

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

[Bill Lindsay]

Brynnar asked what the strap is for.  

It's a "john's irish strap" around the front rack and the bars, supporting 
the rack as a safety measure.

Rivendell recommends a bit of redundancy on the very remote chance that the 
center strut of your three-point-attached front rack fails.  If the center 
strut fails, you are virtually guaranteed to over the bars.  It's an 
extraordinarily rare and unlikely thing, but it has happened before, and so 
Rivendell likes to be cautious.  If the center strut fails, the rack will 
wobble about some, and the strap will catch it, and you'll have an 
opportunity to fix the situation without going over the bars. Better safe 
than sorry.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 12:49:30 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Great build! What's the strap for? I haven't seen that before.
>
> Brynnar 
> Indy
>

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

[ctifusion]

Great build! What's the strap for? I haven't seen that before.

Brynnar 
Indy

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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis! - First Riv

[Lester Lammers]

Congrats...great looking bike. I see that your canine friend approves 
too...smart dog. 


On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 12:42:21 PM UTC-4, Brian Reeves wrote:
>
> I've been lurking for quite some time here and have wanted an Atlantis for 
> a while too.  Back in April, I put out a wtb post looking for an Atlantis.  
> I had quite a few forum members kindly reply back to me.  But after a call 
> to Riv and talking to Grant (whom generously gave me quite a bit of his 
> time when I called in),  I decided to order a new Atlantis (56 - 650b) from 
> Riv and have them build it up for me.  Everyone I spoke to over the phone 
> (Grant, Roman and Corey just to name a few) were very nice...they all seem 
> like great folks and I have had nothing but positive experiences with 
> them.  My Atlantis came well packed and expertly assembled.  I finished 
> unboxing/what assembly was left yesterday and did my first ride yesterday 
> and another today.  The bike feels fantastic...to me it feels nimble and 
> fast yet stable and responsive when needed, and the wide 650b tires makes 
> the pot-hole streets and gravel roads around here feel soo smooth it's 
> almost unreal.
>
> I've included some photos from yesterday and today.  I **currently** live 
> in Hamilton, a small town in central Texas with a population of under 3000 
> peoplebut will be undergoing a pretty fast move this month to 
> Alexandria in central Louisiana which is pretty exciting but just a lot to 
> take care of in under a month if all the stars alignespecially with 
> working toward finding housing by July 1st. 
>

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[RBW] WTB: Billie Bars

[Paul Choi]

I missed the first shipment. Does anyone have a pair that they decided not 
to use?

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[RBW] Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, all!

John, there’s a lot on the water in the mouth trick I didn’t mention. First: A 
lot of it is based on Noakes’ approach to water from “Waterlogged” — the idea 
being that we don’t need the amounts of water we think we do DURING exertion, 
and often over drink. The body can perform just fine and without danger so long 
as you recalibrate thirst to match actual need rather than “I’m slightly 
thirsty, must guzzle!”. Second, the body that doesn’t need to process carbs 
doesn’t need near as much water. Third, nose breathing is obviously a 
requirement, is healthier for many reasons, reduces moisture loss and feel, and 
helps naturally stay aerobic for steady, long effort.

peec ... some’at or other: You do’na ken the half of it! She married me, 
already knowing me. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic bike and build! I sbet you will delight in discovering back roads and 
trails in Louisiana, as well as having a bike that says “Yes! Let’s turn here 
and see where that gravley, muddly thread of a road goes, aye?” Enjoy and keep 
the ride pics coming! We need more ride reports!

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis! - First Riv

['Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice bike, welcome to the group, and hope your move goes well!

Ride Safely,
Beaverton Bob

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59 Clem H - Grilver

[tc]

The bike is sold.

Tom

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59 Clem H Frame/Fork/Headset - Grilver

[tc]

Sold.  I ended up selling the complete bike.

Tom

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 8:03:26 AM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> $700.  
>
> This is the F/F/H from the complete that I've been unable to sell.  It has 
> 20 miles on it, if that.  I've decided to transfer most of the components 
> to my wife's Cheviot.
>
> If anyone is seriously interested, please send an email off list.  No 
> pic's yet of the disassembled bike; those will be coming soon.  Pic's of 
> the complete as it stands now are here:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ykyb86tUQy07gVMh2
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>   
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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis! - First Riv

[Paul Choi]

Congratulations! Looks great. 

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:42:21 AM UTC-7, Brian Reeves wrote:
>
> I've been lurking for quite some time here and have wanted an Atlantis for 
> a while too.  Back in April, I put out a wtb post looking for an Atlantis.  
> I had quite a few forum members kindly reply back to me.  But after a call 
> to Riv and talking to Grant (whom generously gave me quite a bit of his 
> time when I called in),  I decided to order a new Atlantis (56 - 650b) from 
> Riv and have them build it up for me.  Everyone I spoke to over the phone 
> (Grant, Roman and Corey just to name a few) were very nice...they all seem 
> like great folks and I have had nothing but positive experiences with 
> them.  My Atlantis came well packed and expertly assembled.  I finished 
> unboxing/what assembly was left yesterday and did my first ride yesterday 
> and another today.  The bike feels fantastic...to me it feels nimble and 
> fast yet stable and responsive when needed, and the wide 650b tires makes 
> the pot-hole streets and gravel roads around here feel soo smooth it's 
> almost unreal.
>
> I've included some photos from yesterday and today.  I **currently** live 
> in Hamilton, a small town in central Texas with a population of under 3000 
> peoplebut will be undergoing a pretty fast move this month to 
> Alexandria in central Louisiana which is pretty exciting but just a lot to 
> take care of in under a month if all the stars alignespecially with 
> working toward finding housing by July 1st. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Shoji Takahashi]

Thanks for the report and video, Bill!
Shoji
Arlington MA



On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

[James Warren]

Beautiful. Congrats! I love the handlebar too! And great work with the safety 
strap from front mini-rack to handlebar. That’s an important thing

-Jim W.


> On Jun 10, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Brian Reeves  wrote:
> 
> I've been lurking for quite some time here and have wanted an Atlantis for a 
> while too.  Back in April, I put out a wtb post looking for an Atlantis.  I 
> had quite a few forum members kindly reply back to me.  But after a call to 
> Riv and talking to Grant (whom generously gave me quite a bit of his time 
> when I called in),  I decided to order a new Atlantis (56 - 650b) from Riv 
> and have them build it up for me.  Everyone I spoke to over the phone (Grant, 
> Roman and Corey just to name a few) were very nice...they all seem like great 
> folks and I have had nothing but positive experiences with them.  My Atlantis 
> came well packed and expertly assembled.  I finished unboxing/what assembly 
> was left yesterday and did my first ride yesterday and another today.  The 
> bike feels fantastic...to me it feels nimble and fast yet stable and 
> responsive when needed, and the wide 650b tires makes the pot-hole streets 
> and gravel roads around here feel soo smooth it's almost unreal.
> 
> I've included some photos from yesterday and today.  I **currently** live in 
> Hamilton, a small town in central Texas with a population of under 3000 
> peoplebut will be undergoing a pretty fast move this month to Alexandria 
> in central Louisiana which is pretty exciting but just a lot to take care of 
> in under a month if all the stars alignespecially with working toward 
> finding housing by July 1st. 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

My seat bag is made by Ely Rodriguez of Ruthworks.  

https://www.ruthworkssf.com/store/p79/Ultralight_Wedge.html

BL in EC

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:36:47 AM UTC-7, David Podboy wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the report! What is the rear bag that you are using?
>

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[RBW] Re: New Atlantis! - First Riv

[d2mini]

That's a beauty! Congrats!

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 11:42:21 AM UTC-5, Brian Reeves wrote:
>
> I've been lurking for quite some time here and have wanted an Atlantis for 
> a while too.  Back in April, I put out a wtb post looking for an Atlantis.  
> I had quite a few forum members kindly reply back to me.  But after a call 
> to Riv and talking to Grant (whom generously gave me quite a bit of his 
> time when I called in),  I decided to order a new Atlantis (56 - 650b) from 
> Riv and have them build it up for me.  Everyone I spoke to over the phone 
> (Grant, Roman and Corey just to name a few) were very nice...they all seem 
> like great folks and I have had nothing but positive experiences with 
> them.  My Atlantis came well packed and expertly assembled.  I finished 
> unboxing/what assembly was left yesterday and did my first ride yesterday 
> and another today.  The bike feels fantastic...to me it feels nimble and 
> fast yet stable and responsive when needed, and the wide 650b tires makes 
> the pot-hole streets and gravel roads around here feel soo smooth it's 
> almost unreal.
>
> I've included some photos from yesterday and today.  I **currently** live 
> in Hamilton, a small town in central Texas with a population of under 3000 
> peoplebut will be undergoing a pretty fast move this month to 
> Alexandria in central Louisiana which is pretty exciting but just a lot to 
> take care of in under a month if all the stars alignespecially with 
> working toward finding housing by July 1st. 
>

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[RBW] Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[Michael Gasparino]

Fantastic story telling and photographs. Really enjoyed reading this. 

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[David Podboy]

Thanks for the report! What is the rear bag that you are using?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62 Rambouillet 745$ complete bike ebay

[Bob Lovejoy]

It seems there were two people, relatively new to Ebay though that is an 
assumption, battling it out... I am fairly sure the seller was grateful for 
the interest from both of those people!

Bob


On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 11:00:47 AM UTC-5, Luke wrote:
>
> Just went for $2,175 - (longtime lurker - first time poster - '04 Ram 
> Owner)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

['peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I am consistently amazed by your documented rides Patrick.  You seem to 
have a very understanding wife.  Lucky man that you are.

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 6:40:59 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m 
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard 
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[John W]

Looks like it was a great time. Thanks for sharing! It really does look 
dangerously dry out there. I wonder how long I could go with the "holding 
water" trick.

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 7:40:59 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m 
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard 
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Austin Ride Recommendations from Downtown?

[Jim Bronson]

Ok never mind, I can see that you're here now.

If you don't want an organized tour, the hike and bike trail is a good
east-west route.

If you want a north-south route I'd try the City of Austin Bike Route 31.
(downtown only)
https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Transportation/2017_Austin_Bike_Map_-_Side_2.pdf
(city wide)
https://austintexas.gov/sites/default/files/files/Transportation/2017_Austin_Bike_Map_-_Side_1.pdf
(interactive/ArcGIS)
https://austin.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=c7fecf32a2d946fabdf062285d58d40c=3052120.7123%2C10036958.1486%2C3179054.0456%2C10097891.4819%2C102739

hope this is helpful!

-Jim


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:40 AM Jim Bronson  wrote:

> This place is run by a friend of mine, I recommend it over a b-cycle,
> which aren't much fun to ride if you ask me.
>
> http://mikesbikesandtours.com/
>
> When are you coming?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:34 AM Mike Packard  wrote:
>
>> I agree, the best short ride near downtown is the granite and boardwalk
>> trails on Ladybird Lake. Mostly stay on the south side of the lake, the
>> path has several breaks in it on the north side. It gets less crowded as
>> you ride east toward Roy G Guerrero Park.
>>
>> There are several other places to rent nicer bikes than b-cycle, e.g.
>> http://www.austinbiketoursandrentals.com/contact/
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:36:05 AM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>>
>>> Should've asked this a week ago, but now that I'm here, wondering if
>>> there's any Austin-ites(?) on this list that could recommend some rides
>>> from downtown Austin, that are tolerable on an Austin-Bcycle. The b-cycles
>>> are subpar compared to what I'm used to in a bikeshare bike, but they'll
>>> get me around. I'm flying out tomorrow evening, so have an hour here/there
>>> for some short rides.
>>> Thanks!
>>> David
>>> currently enjoying local coffee (Cuvee) in Austin, TX
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 62 Rambouillet 745$ complete bike ebay

[Luke]

Just went for $2,175 - (longtime lurker - first time poster - '04 Ram Owner)

On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 9:50:51 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> The starting bid was $1. It currently has 18 bids and is at $745 with 5 
> days and change till end of auction. Yes, the *subject line* is 
> misleading, unless at one point there was a Buy It Now at that price, 
> although the BIN goes away, I believe after the first bid is placed.
>
> A blue Ram frame/fork/headset sold for $560 on May 26th. No comparable 
> complete bikes in the eBay 15-day archives.
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:22:03 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Misleading thread. $745 is the starting bid.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Austin Ride Recommendations from Downtown?

[Jim Bronson]

This place is run by a friend of mine, I recommend it over a b-cycle, which
aren't much fun to ride if you ask me.

http://mikesbikesandtours.com/

When are you coming?



On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:34 AM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I agree, the best short ride near downtown is the granite and boardwalk
> trails on Ladybird Lake. Mostly stay on the south side of the lake, the
> path has several breaks in it on the north side. It gets less crowded as
> you ride east toward Roy G Guerrero Park.
>
> There are several other places to rent nicer bikes than b-cycle, e.g.
> http://www.austinbiketoursandrentals.com/contact/
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 7:36:05 AM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>
>> Should've asked this a week ago, but now that I'm here, wondering if
>> there's any Austin-ites(?) on this list that could recommend some rides
>> from downtown Austin, that are tolerable on an Austin-Bcycle. The b-cycles
>> are subpar compared to what I'm used to in a bikeshare bike, but they'll
>> get me around. I'm flying out tomorrow evening, so have an hour here/there
>> for some short rides.
>> Thanks!
>> David
>> currently enjoying local coffee (Cuvee) in Austin, TX
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[RBW] Re: Austin Ride Recommendations from Downtown?

[Mike Packard]

I agree, the best short ride near downtown is the granite and boardwalk 
trails on Ladybird Lake. Mostly stay on the south side of the lake, the 
path has several breaks in it on the north side. It gets less crowded as 
you ride east toward Roy G Guerrero Park.

There are several other places to rent nicer bikes than b-cycle, e.g. 
http://www.austinbiketoursandrentals.com/contact/

Mike



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>
> Should've asked this a week ago, but now that I'm here, wondering if 
> there's any Austin-ites(?) on this list that could recommend some rides 
> from downtown Austin, that are tolerable on an Austin-Bcycle. The b-cycles 
> are subpar compared to what I'm used to in a bikeshare bike, but they'll 
> get me around. I'm flying out tomorrow evening, so have an hour here/there 
> for some short rides.
> Thanks!
> David
> currently enjoying local coffee (Cuvee) in Austin, TX
>

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[RBW] Re: My new Sam is complete!

[Deacon Patrick]

Hey, Dennis! Getting your signiture in is easy. Type it at the bottom when you 
post. Grin. We used to have an (stated, unstated?) rule that people sign their 
names to each post. Interestingly, it helped the group culture maintain a 
different feel from other groups. We still feel different as we’ve gotten away 
from everyone signing their name, but to a lesser degree. So I arrogantly try 
to push back every other now and then. Grin.

Again, beautiful bike, and may it never again look so pristine! Grin.

With abandon.
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: My new Sam is complete!

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I had my new Roadini painted black and have the albastache bars on it, 
cream tire, 1x11, brooks saddle.  If I posted a photo of it - it would look 
like I copied yours.  Great minds think alike!  Enjoy

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 12:48:30 PM UTC-4, d2mini wrote:
>
> Well, pretty much. haha
> Here's a little Sunday afternoon bike porn. :)
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/FeRHJz2RMefnKe9RA
>
> Used a few older parts, and picked up several new parts as well.
> Not sure how well it will wear over time, but this Serfas cloth bar tape 
> is pretty nice. Has a little bit of padding too it and the fabric is nice 
> and soft feeling.
> And it's wrapping around a brand new Albastache bar which is a first for 
> me. Have had the moustache bars before and they were ok but so far I really 
> like these.
>
> It is a bit stripped down at the moment. I'll be adding a copper bottle 
> cage, possibly a frame pump... and for now it's a fair weather rider so no 
> fenders or racks at this time.
>
> Rides awesome! Super smooth. :)
> This is my third Riv build now and once again, not disappointed.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[WETH]

Patrick,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading about the adventure as well as your writing 
and photography.
Erl

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>
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m 
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard 
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[Bill Schairer]

Wonderful!

Bill

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[RBW] My new Sam is complete!

['Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wonderful build. Like many here, I am a Sam owner myself. I will second the 
suggestion of getting it (at least slightly) dirty!!

Trying to look at the pics in my phone, but are those White Industries hubs? If 
so, nice touch.

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[RBW] Re: Austin Ride Recommendations from Downtown?

[Ron Mc]

the crushed granite trails around Lady Bird Lake, through Barton Springs 
and Zilker Park are nice, shared with pedestrians, and offer shade, which 
is very important in the summer  


    
Two side trips that should be on your list are Hut's Hamburgers - their 
hamburgers are fun,  their onion rings a food group, and their $3.50 
milkshake is the $5 milkshake from Pump Fiction.  Other side trip is 
Sweetish Hill Bakery, where their delightful pastry matches their name - 
merely sweetish  



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>
> Should've asked this a week ago, but now that I'm here, wondering if 
> there's any Austin-ites(?) on this list that could recommend some rides 
> from downtown Austin, that are tolerable on an Austin-Bcycle. The b-cycles 
> are subpar compared to what I'm used to in a bikeshare bike, but they'll 
> get me around. I'm flying out tomorrow evening, so have an hour here/there 
> for some short rides.
> Thanks!
> David
> currently enjoying local coffee (Cuvee) in Austin, TX
>

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Re: [RBW] Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[jim Dobbins]

Deacpn,
What a great trip and report. Appreciate your on-going sense of adventure and 
the efforts you extend in writing and photographing it.
Thanks!
Jim

> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 6:40:59 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m in 
> the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard to 
> scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies 
> 
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
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[RBW] Austin Ride Recommendations from Downtown?

[David B]

Should've asked this a week ago, but now that I'm here, wondering if 
there's any Austin-ites(?) on this list that could recommend some rides 
from downtown Austin, that are tolerable on an Austin-Bcycle. The b-cycles 
are subpar compared to what I'm used to in a bikeshare bike, but they'll 
get me around. I'm flying out tomorrow evening, so have an hour here/there 
for some short rides.
Thanks!
David
currently enjoying local coffee (Cuvee) in Austin, TX

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[RBW] Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[William R.]

Your ride reports keep getting better and better Bill. Very inspirational 
around an area where I lived for a brief spell (‘95-‘00). Was the circuitous 
route around Tiburon Paradise Drive? Pretty views indeed. Looking forward to 
the video. And... orange juice mixed with coke... sounds kind of yucky, but I 
will try anything once!

Bill in Westchester, NY

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Steven Sweedler]

Nice video Bill, quite a ride, a full day of fun.  Steve

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 3:19 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: My new Sam is complete!

[d2mini]

HA! I never figured out how to add a sig here.

May the force be with you,
-d2 aka Dennis.



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>
> R2D2 (no name, so you get mocked. Grin.),
> Delightful build! I love the tuxedo Sam, and those prime sylvan touring 
> pedals in copper realy shine! May you have many happy miles together, and 
> may it not always be so clean! Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[WETH]

Multi-talented family.  Thanks for sharing the write-up and great video!

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
> motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
> time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
> recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
> Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
> if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.
>
>  Youtube link 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clicking noise -- About to lose my mind.

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Hi Nathan,
Glad you isolated the problem... one note on the grip kings: I found I needed 
to retighten the bolts that hold the rounded, outer textured portions to the 
central H part of the body body.  I had one come loose and drop right out after 
only a couple short rides after first receiving them.  Luckily it happened 
right at the start of a ride as the front of the pedal shifted/rotated under 
weight while mounting it with only the one side still bolted.  A quick stop and 
inspection revealed the bolt was missing and fortunately there it was on the 
pavement just a few yards back where the ride began.  I reinstalled with a 
multi tool and tightened the other 3 bolts which all needed some snugging and 
continued my ride.  I later checked a second pair which also seemed to need 
tightening and experienced some of those bolt/thread tightening clicks in the 
process so I eventually removed all the bolts, regreased, and reinstalled on 
both pairs of pedals.

Might be worth checking on yours.

Brian Cole

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[RBW] Re: PSA: all rounder near chicago

[Belopsky]

What else did the seller have and will they be for sale? :)

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 11:48:06 PM UTC-4, Karl wrote:
>
> Steve, I jumped on the grenade now time to get this back to Nashville. 
> Yay! Excited for this one! Brought it back to Chicago. Seller had all kinds 
> of amazing bikes! 
>
> Karl (Give me single track) Worley 
> Nashvile, TN 
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:28:49 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote: 
> > And here's the write up from RR3 on the Mountain frame. The All Rounder 
> is described in the same issue.  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[Ed Fausto]

Patrick, I am glad you shared this wonderful ride :-)
Keep them coming!

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: Bikepacking the Smokey Mountains of the Colorado Rockies

[Steve Butcher]

So glad I read this before heading off to work this morning, Deacon.  
Helped me start my day with happy thoughts.  Thanks.

-Doc

On Sunday, June 10, 2018 at 6:40:59 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I ride through nearly every ecosystem Colorado has, wonder if I’m 
> in the Smokey Mountains instead, encounter deer, bear, wild ass, pronghorn 
> antelope, heard elk, and if my cloths got dirty I had plenty of washboard 
> to scrub them clean. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/fixed-gear-bikepacking-the-colorado-rockies
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Bill Lindsay]

Like it or not, I did manage to make my music video.  It's easier to 
motivate oneself to gather the footage if you have a concept ahead of 
time.  For me, 'concept' means a song.  The song is my own bootleg 
recording of "Kopi Luwak", played by the El Cerrito High School Jazz 
Ensemble.  My son Henry plays trombone for the jazz ensemble.  Check it out 
if you like.  It's about 5:30 in length.

 Youtube link 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report--La Ruta Loca 200k

[Neil Doran]

Great read, and congrats on the ride. I’ve ridden every inch of that, but good 
Dog, not in the same day...

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