[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Justin, Oakland]

First: ride what you have the way you can and want to ride. Figure out what 
works and what doesn’t. Many people prefer lighter bikes for gravel and 
bikepacking, some prefer 3” wide tires without suspension, some like 2.4” full 
suspension bikes. You won’t know until you try. 

>From there iron out what you might change:
- do you want racks or strap on bags?
- are you needing a lower top tube for dismounting?
- does it waggle or feel too stiff?
- does it feel like you need skinnier or fatter tires?
- how about that top tube? Does it let you run the bars you want in the 
position you want?
- are my tires supple enough? SHOULD I HAVE GUMWALLS?
- why isn’t it orange?

All of these will help you decide if what you have is right, almost there and 
tweakable, the correct base but serious overhauling or complete replacement.

I have tended mostly towards tweaking the setup except in the case of my MTB. 
My first one came and went so fast I barely remember it. I’m tweaking it’s 
replacement to all hell though.


-J

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Re: [RBW] Thought I'd share my Appaloosa

[Jonathan D.]

Thanks for sharing. 

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[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Philip Williamson]

I weigh 236 today. I think a Bomba/Hunq is overkill for _me_!

I’d ride that San Marcos. 35mm tires work surprisingly well, even for someone 
100lbs heavier. They used to be huge. Deep gravel is safer with 38s, but who 
can afford extra gravel these days?

That said, I just put a deposit down on a custom Fitz road bike with 60mm tires 
and a dropper post. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Rambouillet 57cm

[Joe Bernard]

Reason #4752 why all bikes should be sized by C-to-C toptube, or vitual 
thereof. The seattube number fluctuates wildy, and is about useless for 
determining fit even if you get it right.  

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[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Collin A]

Heyo,

I'm about 145 so I know how you feel in regards to buying an overbuilt 
bike, and you could probably get away with a less-burly bike like an App or 
an Atlantis (even those are probably overkill...). That being said, if you 
end up doing more rough-and-tumble roads like you are describing (while 
fully loaded for bikepacking) having a more burly bike leads to more peace 
of mind so you don't feel like you are nursing a precious frame down a 
rough route. For context, I'm an Earthquake and Dam engineer so a little 
bit of conservatism can go a long way for peace of mind :)

I didn't really answer your question, but I guess my suggestion is a little 
extra weight in the frame is worth it!

Good luck,
Collin A

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:42:31 PM UTC-7, Sean Steinle wrote:
>
> So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy 
> riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we 
> don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm 
> lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's 
> overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with 
> loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some 
> bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean 
> selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved 
> roads for commuting duty as well. 
>
> I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, 
> without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though 
> is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike.  I was 
> originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, 
> but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. 
> With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems 
> like a poor choice. 
>
> Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: 
> does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire 
> clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress 
> on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for 
> me?
>

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Re: [RBW] Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Justin, Oakland]

If it can fit my two cats, dog and baby then boy oh boy will it be an Even 
LIVELIER discussion when I get shot down. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Thought I'd share my Appaloosa

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Likely the *whole 3-day journey* was 215 miles. There are 35-40-something 
miles between Santa Rosa and Fairfax. Guys, it's a slight case of sentence 
infrastructure issues, that's all. *Chapeau*, Nick! Sounds like an awesome 
ride on a great bike!

(There are, however, 2,921.3 miles between Santa Rosa and *Ms.* Fairfax, a 
popular cafe in my neck of the woods. A few years ago, there was a cafe 
called Martha on Liberty Street. The cafe was across the street from 
Washington's 
Headquarters . Then 
along came this cheeky new cafe, Ms. Fairfax. We all know who Martha was. 
Sally Fairfax was George's mistress. Not long after the new cafe opened, 
Martha pulled up stakes and moved to somewhere in Oregon.)


   - [image: Driving] 
   

   - [image: Transit] 
   

   - [image: Walking] 
   

   - [image: Cycling] 
   


[image: Map from Ms. Fairfax, 5630, 105 Liberty St, Newburgh, NY 12550 to 
Santa Rosa, California] 

44 h (2,921.3 mi) via I-80 W
Directions

95 ft
0.2 mi
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344 ft
138 ft

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Rambouillet 57cm

[Bill Lindsay]

I'll bet a dollar that it's actually a 58, because there never was a 57, 
and it looks too big to be a 56.  57 center to center is a close 
description of 58 center to top.  

BL in EC

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:56:14 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> No affiliation, lovely bike. 
>
>
> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/rivendell-rambouillet/6637203737.html
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Re: [RBW] Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[James Warren]

I have to have a kid now?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I need to buy one of these and take my cat for a ride 
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[RBW] PSA: Rambouillet 57cm

[Joe Bernard]

No affiliation, lovely bike. 

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/rivendell-rambouillet/6637203737.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Curtis McKenzie]

Safe travels. Have fun.

Curtis

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 6:53 PM Tom Norton  wrote:

> I noticed that the spec's for the bike show a Suntour VGT RD. I did not
> think it would work with a 9 speed.
> Can someone educate me as I would like to to use one on one of my bikes.
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Tom Norton]

I noticed that the spec's for the bike show a Suntour VGT RD. I did not think 
it would work with a 9 speed.
Can someone educate me as I would like to to use one on one of my bikes.
Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Craig Montgomery]

I always draw a schematic of my panniers and where everything is packed 
before taking off on a tour. And then I end up packing it away somewhere 
and  forgetting where it is until the end of the ride. 

BTW Bill, I was up on the Route just south of the Wyoming border about a 
week and a half ago. It was hot. And I'm from Tucson. It was hot. Mr. Sun 
was pretty intense at that high elevation and it didn't get chilly at 
night. All I needed was a wool T and vest. Make sure you have your rain 
gear. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/24722971@N05/albums/72157695288433312

Craig in Tucson

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 10:59:25 AM UTC-7, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> Tell me about it!!  And where?  I had everything so organized but then 
> have to move stuff around to get thru TSA.  Front panniers will be carry on 
> so have to make sure nothing essential in there that TSA won't like.  I 
> sort of knew where I wanted everything when riding but now I'll have to 
> remember where it went for flying.
>
> Bill
>
> On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 10:46:42 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Everything’s tidy and compact and ready to go! Now you just have the 
>> challenge of “Did I really pack x and y? I KNOW I packed z. Didn’t I? Oh, 
>> and I meant to take out q and r. Did I?” Sardonic grin. Then, at camp, the 
>> explosion that happens and how much space all that compact stuff ends up 
>> taking up. Grin. Have a fantastic ride! 
>>
>> With abandon, 
>> Patrick
>
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Re: [RBW] Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Joe Bernard]

I need to buy one of these and take my cat for a ride 

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[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Sean Steinle]

But surely soliciting advice on a forum will end in an objective, unanimous 
frame reccomendation to end my analysis paralysis forever, 
right..right??? :)

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:59:55 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>  Pick whatever frame you want . You are overthinking all of it. A bike 
> is bike, sheesh . 
>
> "Yes but ..butt butt butt" 
>
> Yeah . everyone has one, so what ?   
>
>
> On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:42:31 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: 
>> does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire 
>> clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress 
>> on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for 
>> me?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Eric Daume]

My babies are 9 and 11. Think they'll fit?

Eric

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Grant's Blagh gave another hint at the forthcoming mountain Riv, and a
> Rosco-Bubbe run of frames made to carry baby, and made to use up extra Clem
> forks.  Both sound pretty fun.
>
> Link to the Blagh
>
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[RBW] Re: The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Garth]

 Pick whatever frame you want . You are overthinking all of it. A bike 
is bike, sheesh . 

"Yes but ..butt butt butt" 

Yeah . everyone has one, so what ?   


On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 7:42:31 PM UTC-4, Sean Steinle wrote:
>
>
> Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: 
> does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire 
> clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress 
> on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for 
> me?
>

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[RBW] Re: Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Drw]

I’m trying real real hard to convince myself that buying a rosco mtn Mixte and 
turning it into a baby bike (which I’ve done) was the right decision. This is a 
gut punch for sure. 

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Re: [RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
You have some really cool bikes. Cheers
Don

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:56:44 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Perhaps this is not stealing from Riv's market, given your quandary, but 
> you might enquire with Chauncey Matthews (Matthews Custom Cycles, Belen, 
> NM) who specializes in rather nice and even exotic off road bikes at very 
> reasonable prices. Mine doesn't give me the superlative ride I'd expect 
> from an Atlantis or Hunqapillar -- but who knows, I've not ridden those -- 
> but it rides darned nicely for a bike that takes 60 mm tires with fenders, 
> 70s or 75s without, is made from lightweight heat treated tubing, has all 
> sorts of custom features, and allows use of a Logic triple with sub 160 mm 
> Q (Q on mine is right at 160, but I could get a 126-127 spindle to work in 
> place of the 130). Disc brakes with nice, tapered, curving fork, custom 
> racks f/r.
>
> I'm 175 and my bike shown weighs in at 30.34 lb with frame bag full of 
> kit, pump, spare tube, 4 oz sealant; 1 lb tires with 4 oz sealant; and 
> bulky dynamo light system, the innards of which are in the frame bag.
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Sean Steinle  > wrote:
>
>> So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy 
>> riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we 
>> don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm 
>> lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's 
>> overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with 
>> loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some 
>> bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean 
>> selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved 
>> roads for commuting duty as well. 
>>
>> I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, 
>> without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though 
>> is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike.  I was 
>> originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, 
>> but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. 
>> With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems 
>> like a poor choice. 
>>
>> Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: 
>> does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire 
>> clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress 
>> on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for 
>> me?
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[RBW] Re: Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Justin, Oakland]

WHY WOULD HE MAKE A BABY BIKE RIGHT WHEN I NEED TO BUY A BABY BIKE IS HE SOME 
KIND OF MONSTER.



Ahem. 

That sounds amazing. Just in time for another fight... e lovely discussion 
with my wife about why this bike will be just right for what we need. 

-Justin, stay at home RAD

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[RBW] Re: Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[iamkeith]

Well, heck.  There's not much to glean there regarding the mountain bike.  
  At one point, I think Grant said some prototypes would be available to 
ride this month?   Is that still the case and has anybody seen them?   I 
had hoped to be able to do so in person, but our CA trip fell through.

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:26:18 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Grant's Blagh gave another hint at the forthcoming mountain Riv, and a 
> Rosco-Bubbe run of frames made to carry baby, and made to use up extra Clem 
> forks.  Both sound pretty fun.
>
> Link to the Blagh
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Sean! Fantastic question(s).

First, the weight of the engine is separate from any gear the bike carries. It 
doesn’t matter how much you, the engine, weigh, putting 50 pounds of gear on a 
bike is going to change how it rides. Lighter tubing more so than stiffer 
tubing.

Where you carry gear also matters. Front or back (Rivendells have geometry for 
all rear or add some to the front if you want, entirely personal preference). 
Weight on top of a back rack has a higher center of gravity than that same 
weight in panniers down lower (just pack semi-balanced! Grin.).

Riding smart and “unloading” the engine off the seat for bumps etc, allows a 
lighter frame to do more, but keep in mind that a load can’t unweight and will 
impact in all those bumps and washboards even when you unweight.

So, a lighter engine can ride a lighter tubed bike for road, but as soon as you 
add in trail and/or touring and/or bikepacking (the best and most challenging 
of both trail and touring!) I’d suggest a stiffer frame. But keep in mind that 
Grant has you covered and describes very well the range a bike can do well. 
Just based on what you’ve described, it sounds like an App. or Atlantis would 
be perfect, and easily handle what you’re going to throw at it.

Give Riv a holler. They’d love to talk with you and help you out! It’s what 
they do!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Jonathan D.]

The toddler bike is exciting. I am on the mailing list now. 

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[RBW] The "One Bike" for a featherweight?

[Sean Steinle]

So, I see lots of discussion around how a bike handles for tall/heavy 
riders. What I don't see is much about us featherweights. Is it because we 
don't have to worry about it, or what? I'm 125 pounds if I'm lucky, and I'm 
lusting after a Bomba/Hunq. The thing is though, I'm wondering if it's 
overkill. I live in Kansas and have endless miles of country roads with 
loose, large gravel that I want to explore, and dip my toes into some 
bikepacking. I also commute to work, and buying a new bike will likely mean 
selling my Titanium Brommie, so this new bike will see plenty of paved 
roads for commuting duty as well. 

I bought a Soma San Marcos (54 cm 700c version) frame on an impulse, 
without doing any research. Everything that Grant has said about it though 
is that it's made with lightweight tubing and is a road bike.  I was 
originally thinking about doing a 650b conversion to get 42s under there, 
but now I'm second guessing it with Grant's "this is a road bike" remarks. 
With my interest in lots of gravel riding and bikepacking, this frame seems 
like a poor choice. 

Sorry for the long-winded post. I think my real question boils down to: 
does being very light let me pick whichever frame I want as long as tire 
clearance and geo are good, without the worry about putting too much stress 
on the frame on rough surfaces? Or is a Hunq/Bomba still a good choice for 
me?

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[RBW] Blagh hints: A mountain bike and a bike to carry baby

[Bill Lindsay]

Grant's Blagh gave another hint at the forthcoming mountain Riv, and a 
Rosco-Bubbe run of frames made to carry baby, and made to use up extra Clem 
forks.  Both sound pretty fun.

Link to the Blagh

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a spare Rivendell mug they're willing to part with?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I just noticed that while browsing the site, came to the board to pass the 
word, and see you beat me by an hour.  One's in my cart and will be coming 
to me as soon as I figure out what needs to keep it company on its trip 
cross-country.  

Dave
Boston, MA

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 4:41:48 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:
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> I got a notification that the mugs are back.  Since mine have shipped, I 
> think it is safe to let everyone else know they are available.  
> Matt in Oswego
>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone have a spare Rivendell mug they're willing to part with?

[Matt Beecher]

I got a notification that the mugs are back.  Since mine have shipped, I 
think it is safe to let everyone else know they are available.  
Matt in Oswego

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 7:55:21 PM UTC-5, thalasin wrote:
>
> My Rivendell mug unfortunately met with its demise thanks to my klutzy 
> ways.  I had one in my cart to order but foolishly waited, hoping that some 
> out of stock stuff would reappear to add to the order.  Alas, not only did 
> that not happen, but now the mugs are gone and removed from the site.  
> Given the current state of affairs, it's probably going to be awhile before 
> any promo stuff shows up (if ever).  Anyway, it was my favorite mug and I 
> miss it dearly.  We can discuss price and I will of course pay shipping.
>
> Tracy
>

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[RBW] FS: Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus panniers, black

[Joe Bernard]

SOLD

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[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer saddle 25$ + shipping

[Lum Gim Fong]

SOLD 

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[RBW] FS: Quill Stems

[Michael Ullmer]

Cross-Post from the i-BOB list, figured there could be some interest here.

1) Nitto Technomic Deluxe 90mm 26.0 Clamp - $35 shipped CONUS - There's a 
few horizontal marks above the max ht. line, see pics. The finish on the 
neck is still quite good. I'd give the stem an 8/10 for condition.

2) Salsa Cro-mo 130mm 26.0 Clamp - $35 shipped CONUS - This was the one 
Salsa stem I was holding on to because of the rise of the stem, which is 
more in line with the types of handlebar setups I'm using these days, but I 
found a Ritchey Force quill stem with an integrated cable hanger that is 
replacing this one. The salsa sticker has taken a beating, see pics.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nAM6JsJ1yXUaJtv37

PM off-list, thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Hanging an inverted edeluxe from fork crown?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Eric is right.
My edeluxeII was manufactured as hanging edeluxe model. Designed to hang 
from its mount.

Now Boulder Bikes/renehere bikes told me one can take an* upright *edeluxeII 
and convert it to *hanging*, so I wonder if I could convert my hanging 
light into a vertical for this fork crown mounting I want to do. I will 
have to call them.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 54 Hunqapillar Frameset & 58 Black Mtn Cycles Frameset (plus complete build options)

[adam leibow]

also to note: i am looking to trade the hunqapillar for a 56 MIT atlantis

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 10:33:58 AM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>
> Listing two green framesets for sale. Both are in good *used* condition 
> with no dents. There might be scratches here or there, but both are priced 
> to sell and have long lives ahead of them. 
>
>
> I can provide a complete build for the black mountain (w/ shimano 105 
> 5800, paul minimotos, thomson stem & post, h plus son/5800 wheels, etc). 
>
> I can provide a complete build for the hunqapillar, too (w/ riv standard 
> velocity wheels, nitto post, sugino 3x9, nitto stem, several bar options, 
> several tire options, etc)
>
>
> Prices as follows:
>
> Hunqapillar frame+fork+headset=$1,450 
>
> Black Mountain frame+fork (no headset) - $400
>
>
> If you want a complete(~ish) build, text me and we can discuss what I have 
> and pricing. 
>
>
> Thanks for looking - please text me at (310) nine six three 69-59
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: choco norms

[Lester Lammers]

FWIW, I have used Albas and Choco norms. I don't believe there are three 
hand positions. A friend with a SH had Choco norms and he just went with a 
Noodle and prefers it. He used the Choco for a couple of years. I did not 
like the Choco's and prefer the Billie flipped. Bars are personal, like 
shoes, you gotta try different ones to really know what works for you. I 
have *thought* I found a great bar from a picture...wrong. My 2 cents.

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 11:55:32 AM UTC-4, Ryan Olson wrote:
>
> They are definitely more upright than 'staches.  I find that I can get 
> suitably aero on the choco's by grabbing the front of the bends and resting 
> my forearms on the swept back part (I didn't cut any off), but not really 
> meant for that type of use I think.  I was actually looking at other types 
> of bars that fit mtb brake levers that allow for a more forward position, 
> but not quite like drops; Soma Lauterwasser, Sparrow (upside down) or the 
> new Billie bars seem perfect, they're just out of stock, maybe even an 
> albatross upside down.  Seems like that is the beauty of quill stems and a 
> semi-forward bar - you could adjust the bar height with one of those 
> mentioned above to give you a more or less forward position, but still have 
> the luxury of upright if you want just by adjusting the height of the stem, 
> which doesn't take that long.  
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:21:01 PM UTC-6, jandrews wrote:
>>
>> Talk to me about choco norms.
>> From those who have actually ridden them, do they really offer 3 hand 
>> positions that are useful?  Could they be a replacement for a drop or 
>> mustache rider?
>> I'm asking because, I'm considering using them for my S.H. rebuild which 
>> currently has noodles.  I have a set of Albas with handgrips but they 
>> aren't as useful for long distance riding for me.
>> Any tourists or campers using the choco norms are really liking them?
>> JS
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: 54 Hunqapillar Frameset & 58 Black Mtn Cycles Frameset (plus complete build options)

[Adam Leibow]

Hello All,


Listing two green framesets for sale. Both are in good *used* condition 
with no dents. There might be scratches here or there, but both are priced 
to sell and have long lives ahead of them. 


I can provide a complete build for the black mountain (w/ shimano 105 5800, 
paul minimotos, thomson stem & post, h plus son/5800 wheels, etc). 

I can provide a complete build for the hunqapillar, too (w/ riv standard 
velocity wheels, nitto post, sugino 3x9, nitto stem, several bar options, 
several tire options, etc)


Prices as follows:

Hunqapillar frame+fork+headset=$1,450 

Black Mountain frame+fork (no headset) - $400


If you want a complete(~ish) build, text me and we can discuss what I have 
and pricing. 


Thanks for looking - please text me at (310) nine six three 69-59


Best,


Adam









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[RBW] Re: Ride Report - HHH W Overnighter and Beer Sampling Adventure

[Shoji Takahashi]

Congrats, Tony, and thanks for the ride report. Glad you were able to get 
HHH-- I love ours. 

All the best,
Shoji
Arlington MA



On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 6:49:39 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> My wife and I got into tandem riding a couple years ago leading to the 
> purchase of a sweet 90's era Burley Bossa Nova frame which we Riv'd up 
>  and got in a 
> number of short local rides before branching out on the C including an 
> epic (for us) 2 day Harpers Ferry overnight 
> .  That 
> ride was all of a sudden 2 1/2 years ago and alot has changed around our 
> household.  Our daughter Rebecca just turned 2 in June and we traded in the 
> Burley for one of the last Hubbahubbah's back in April.  The HHH was an 
> impulse purchase about a year in the making... I followed Grant's blahgs 
> and newsletters regarding the development of the frame intently but was to 
> caught up in baby stuff to make the move.  That and our inability to use 
> the tandem last summer put the damper on things.  But last year we managed 
> to get Rebecca out quite a bit on the XO-3 and Clementine via a Yepp Mini 
> front seat and this year we added a Burley trailer which opened up the 
> Saluki and the potential for an extra long tandem-trailer expedition.  So 
> when one of the spring blahgs mentioned single digit HHH stock in size 
> small I finally pulled the trigger and I'm glad I did.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Our HHH was bought through and partially assembled by James and Candice at 
> Analog before they left MD.  It was nice dealing with a knowledgeable and 
> enthusiastic company like them, thanks guys!  Even with the assist it took 
> a while to sort the bike out into full ride-able shape and with all the 
> rain we had in April and May and a competing project (wooden boat build) 
> the HHH didn't see alot of action.  In the last couple weeks though after 
> tweaking the rear disc brake to add a bit of caliper clearance and 
> equipping the bike w/ a nice set of matched grey sackville luggage - 
> Saddlesacks Small, XtraSmall and a Basket bag the bike was finally ready 
> for a real test ride.  Finally on to the actual ride.
>
> The initial plan was for a 'Leesburg Loop', consisting of a C outbound 
> to Whites Ferry, overnight in Leesburg (hotel) and return via W 
> partaking of the breweries and good bike shops along the way.  The 
> temperatures (exceeding 90 on day 1) and the thought of being that remote 
> on the first real extended ride for the HHH ended up convincing us to 
> reverse that plan and start via the W  While the C would have been 
> cooler w/ its shade I just wasn't comfortable being that much more remote 
> on the first big ride, the W offers plenty of bail outs, bike shops and 
> access to uber if there was a bike or toddler emergency.  The W is a 
> real treat of a rail trail, it starts technically in Shirlington and goes 
> all the way to Purceville some 43 miles.  We connected from our Alexandria 
> neighborhood to the trailhead via the Four Mile Run Trail and started the 
> steady climb out of the inner beltway area.  Its only about 460' of 
> climbing over 10 miles but in that heat and with the full load of tandem + 
> trailer I was definitely feeling it. 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
> We made our first stop at the longtime classic Vienna Inn 
> , just off the trail in downtown Vienna it's still 
> easy to miss but highly recommended.  We tanked up on the house specialty 
> of fully loaded chilly cheese dogs washed down by a frosty mug of beer.  
> The first leg was about 14 miles non-stop and we decided to make the 
> remaining segments a bit shorter as we were really hot and tired easily, we 
> averaged 11.2-11.7 mph over both days (moving speed measured via strava).  
> Momentum on a tandem is a fickle beast, once rolling its amazing but the 
> many starts and stops especially in Vienna and again in Reston along the 
> W make for alot of lost momentum.  Stop #2 is a big favorite of mine, 
> the Green Lizard Bike Shop  which is 
> also serves coffee and beer now.  We were mostly interested in their Port 
> City Derecho ale 
>  - a local 
> brewery and an accidental beer recipe resulting from a significant power 
> outage changing the brew sequence for an ale they were brewing.  It was 
> very refreshing and I took the opportunity 

[RBW] Re: FS: Albastache Bar, Brooks C19, B IQ-XS Dynamo Light, Shimano Exage Crankset

[David B]

Stem sold as well. Saddle and crankset are left.

On Monday, July 9, 2018 at 9:33:43 AM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> Albastache bars are sold. 
> Updated list with prices lowered on saddle and crankset.
>
> Contact off-list if interested in anything. 
> Paypal for payment please. Regular goods/services is fine.
> I can combine shipping with other items in my webstore (which I won't list 
> here), treetop.bigcartel.com.
> Thanks,
> David
>
> 2. Brooks All-Weather C19 Saddle - bought this from Riv during the Hail 
> Mary thing, mounted it once, went for an 'end of the alley & back' ride, I 
> like it, just don't have a bike for it right now as I swapped up stuff with 
> the bike it was on - $90 shipped 
>
> 4. Shimano Exage Crankset - painted silver finish similar to Shimano's 
> 'silver' painted hubs and brakes, cranks were used on a short ride, were 
> previously new-old-stock - I set them up with 39t and 25t new Willow 
> chainrings and left the outer ring spot empty - $40 shipped, photos here: 
> https://tinyurl.com/y7yl3l2s 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58 cm Bosco Bars

[sean]

Hi Jonathan,

I have 58cm Boscos I can part with. They're in great shape and already have 
some Newbaums tape on the grabby hooks and flats.

Sean
ATX

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 6:10:45 PM UTC-5, Jonathan D. wrote:

> I just tested out my wife's 55 Bosco Bars on my Joe. I think this is the 
> way to go for me. I was curious if anyone had an extra pair of 58 Boscos 
> they were looking to sell. 

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Re: [RBW] Hanging an inverted edeluxe from fork crown?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

All except the “upside down” Edelux, which is made to mount that way.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Jul 7, 2018, at 2:55 PM, SurlySteel  wrote:
> 
> Peter White cautions against hanging dynamo lights upside down.
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.php#upsidedown
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[RBW] Re: Crankypants & Thoughtful Responses

[Jim Edgar]

You can either forward it to me, or simply email me with the thread Subject 
line and I'll find it. 

Thanks!

- Jim / list admin / cyclofiend@gmail dot com

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 3:53:58 PM UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Jim is there a way to flag a post that doesn’t meet the criteria as stated 
> for this group?  

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Re: [RBW] Thought I'd share my Appaloosa

[Joe Bernard]

Hmm, I didn't catch that. I'm not even sure how you turn Fairfax to Santa Rosa 
into 215 miles..

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[RBW] Hanging an inverted edeluxe from fork crown?

[SurlySteel]

Peter White cautions against hanging dynamo lights upside down.
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/light-mounts.php#upsidedown

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[RBW] Re: FS: Albastache Bar, Brooks C19, B IQ-XS Dynamo Light, Shimano Exage Crankset

[David B]

Albastache bars are sold. 
Updated list with prices lowered on saddle and crankset.

Contact off-list if interested in anything. 
Paypal for payment please. Regular goods/services is fine.
I can combine shipping with other items in my webstore (which I won't list 
here), treetop.bigcartel.com.
Thanks,
David

2. Brooks All-Weather C19 Saddle - bought this from Riv during the Hail 
Mary thing, mounted it once, went for an 'end of the alley & back' ride, I 
like it, just don't have a bike for it right now as I swapped up stuff with 
the bike it was on - $90 shipped 

4. Shimano Exage Crankset - painted silver finish similar to Shimano's 
'silver' painted hubs and brakes, cranks were used on a short ride, were 
previously new-old-stock - I set them up with 39t and 25t new Willow 
chainrings and left the outer ring spot empty - $40 shipped, photos here: 
https://tinyurl.com/y7yl3l2s 

5.  Nitto Tallux Stem - 13cm reach, 25.4mm clamp, 225mm tall quill - new in 
packaging - $70 shipped

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Re: [RBW] Thought I'd share my Appaloosa

[Jim Bronson]

You did the 215 miles from Fairfax to Santa Rosa in one day loaded with
gear?  that seems like a lot...

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 10:27 PM nick b  wrote:

> After I got over my teenage fear of riding bikes and got back on one in my
> early 20's I found Rivendell on the internet and lusted over an Atlantis.
> About 10 years later I decided to just do it and I saved up and went for
> the Appaloosa since the Atlantis was so much more.  Little did I know the
> Atlantis would come out a few months later in a more affordable Taiwanese
> version but to be honest I prefer this (that blue is heavenly).  It's
> pretty much everything I hoped it would be.  Heavy, slow, comfortable, and
> beautiful with my neck placed to look at the scenery instead of my bike
> computer and the pavement directly in front of me (I have a bike for
> that...).  I took it on a 3 day tour up in Marin and Sonoma this weekend
> and it performed admirably.  I rode 215 miles from Fairfax to Santa Rosa
> (Russian River Brewing!), over to Bodega Bay where I slept for the night
> and dropped my gear.  The next day I rode unladen up to Cazadero and over
> King Ridge Road and then down the dirt road in Kruse Rhododendron State
> Preserve and back down the PCH to Bodega Bay.  The next day was down to
> Bolinas for lunch and then over Fairfax-Bolinas Road (where I saw a dude
> descending on an Atlantis) to my car.  The racks seem a bit overkill but
> every time I think about taking one off it loses functionality for me which
> is why I put them on.  I built it so that one day (and one day hopefully
> will) live on it.  Also riding though that area which I visited as a kid
> but am unfamiliar with as an adult was a treat.  Thought you all might like
> to see  it.  Thanks!
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[RBW] FS: Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus panniers, black

[Joe Bernard]

Bumpy McDropster, $140 shipped. 
Or trade for some other kinda bag you got. 

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[RBW] Re: Thought I'd share my Appaloosa

[JohnS]

Thanks for sharing Nick! Great looking bike, seems like you're going in the 
right direction to living on it. Bicycling Mag recently had King Ridge Road 
on a list of must do rides.

JohnS

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Relevate Feed Bag handlebar bag

[Joe Bernard]

I like my Road Runner Co-Pilot. I use it for my phone and reading glasses, but 
a camera would fit about the same. It's a little bit smaller and cheaper if you 
just want it for the one thing you can easily grab..the Bar Tender seems more 
of a "stuff all your stuff in it" bag. 

https://roadrunnerbags.us/products/co-pilot-bar-bag

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[RBW] Thought I'd share my Appaloosa

[Michael Morrissey]

That looks great! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[ascpgh]

Probably not a big problem there but I am amazed by the growth of materials 
to be packed when exposed to dew or humidity. 

Maybe things won't move smoothly against themselves or others when so 
exposed. How ever it happens, things feel like they won't easily fit. Felt 
it trying to repack bike luggage, backpacks, sleeping bags, stuff sacks, 
and anything  with a canvas cover or bag for it during my olive drab days 
(and nights).

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Everything’s tidy and compact and ready to go! Now you just have the 
> challenge of “Did I really pack x and y? I KNOW I packed z. Didn’t I? Oh, 
> and I meant to take out q and r. Did I?” Sardonic grin. Then, at camp, the 
> explosion that happens and how much space all that compact stuff ends up 
> taking up. Grin. Have a fantastic ride! 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] WTB: Quickbeam Suzue wheels

[Matt B.]

Hi All,

I'm looking for a set of wheels for my QB, preferably with the Suzue 
free/free type hubs that originally came with it.  TIA

Matt

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Relevate Feed Bag handlebar bag

[Ron Mc]

I'll put in another plug for Randi Jo - 


6 bikes between us, 6 bags

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