[RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Ian A]

I think it depends on where you store the bike at work. If it's kept secure and 
inside at your workplace, something like the Sam Hillborne would be superb. 
However, if you are to be locking the bicycle outside and left unattended for 
hours at a time, a Rivendell might attract the wrong kind of attention. 

My commute is a little over six miles and in summer months I ride a lightweight 
touring bike which I thoroughly enjoy. It has fenders, rack and always-on 
dynamo lighting. I just never tire of the commute. 

In winter months I ride an 80's MTB with studded tires to deal with ice and 
snow. Most days I love that winter commute too. 

I would encourage you to start commuting by bike again as soon as possible. If 
you can find MUPs and quiet residential streets to use instead of main 
thoroughfares, the commute can be the best part of the day. 

IanA/Alberta Canada

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Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Joe Bernard]

Btw, Swan Arcade would be an AWESOME name for a bike. 

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Commuting

[Doug H.]

Mark, I have been considering the Clem L seriously. Do you still have your Clem 
L? 

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Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Joe Bernard]

"I would not be surprised if you got one of these, though."

Oh the chances are extremely high, my friend. I'll take one with those spiffy 
Shimano DXR v-brakes!

Joe "too old to woke" Bernard
Novato CA. 

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Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Grant Petersen]

"...before murder comes to MIND..."
Let's not start a thread with "murder" in it, OK?

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:52 PM, Grant Petersen  wrote:

> Joe, you have a lot of equity to burn thru before murder comes to mine, so
> no worries there. There are lots of bikes with disc brakes, and I know I
> run the small considerable risk of being accused of being stubborn or
> hurting Rivendell or being a dinosaur and all that, but I just love the
> high visible actuation beauty and function of rim brakes. So...duly noted
> your opinion, but it ain't going anywhere. We're not neeeding to do a
> mountain bike at all, but if we do it (it seems we will, but not 100
> percent yet) it won't be diluted or woke or anything. I want to be able to
> take some stands without risking offending existing disc brake fans, etc.
> I'm not the world's expert, I'm just trying to make a line of bikes that
> tie together in certain ways. Our reach and market or whatever is small, so
> we don't have to please the whole world. I would not be surprised if you
> got one of these, though.
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> He'll kill me for bringing it up again, but I can't see going to
>> threadless and 73mm, then still stopping short of discs. The people want
>> the little discs, man!
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Re: [RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Grant Petersen]

Joe, you have a lot of equity to burn thru before murder comes to mine, so
no worries there. There are lots of bikes with disc brakes, and I know I
run the small considerable risk of being accused of being stubborn or
hurting Rivendell or being a dinosaur and all that, but I just love the
high visible actuation beauty and function of rim brakes. So...duly noted
your opinion, but it ain't going anywhere. We're not neeeding to do a
mountain bike at all, but if we do it (it seems we will, but not 100
percent yet) it won't be diluted or woke or anything. I want to be able to
take some stands without risking offending existing disc brake fans, etc.
I'm not the world's expert, I'm just trying to make a line of bikes that
tie together in certain ways. Our reach and market or whatever is small, so
we don't have to please the whole world. I would not be surprised if you
got one of these, though.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> He'll kill me for bringing it up again, but I can't see going to
> threadless and 73mm, then still stopping short of discs. The people want
> the little discs, man!
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[RBW] Re: Blahg post, 7/20

[Patrick Moore]

In fact, a sort of Anglo Saxon, middle school Madeleine, with more
pedigree. The same sort of defiant, "don't care about the conventions"
attitude, but without the sympathetic nun.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Grant wrote:
>
> *Rich here recommended I watch this:*
>
> *https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4271918/*
> 
>
> *It was written in 1945. It's a single-shot movie, close to two hours. If
> you want to spoil it for yourself, read the wiki page on it. It was written
> by English playwright and novelest, J.B. Priestly, about whom Wikipedia
> writes--*
>
> *Priestley was educated at Belle Vue Grammar School
> , which he left at
> sixteen to work as a junior clerk at Helm & Co., a wool firm in the Swan
> Arcade. *
>
> *Don't bother with those links, but you have to admit or correct me if I'm
> wrong, but "Swan Arcade" would be a great or just unique name for a bike.*
>
> *I* think that Rivendell ought to make a nod to Flavia de Luce and make a
> bicycle called "Gladys," for her BSA "Keep Fit." Or, if you want to be more
> Wodehousian, "Gwladys."
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTJYMnMTU6I
>
>
>
> I have no idea if the movie lives up to the books, but the books are fun
> in a well written, literarily interesting, silly way -- 11/12 year old
> female scion of impoverished English aristocratic family in 1950-51,
> precocious chemist with predilection for poisons, living in huge, ancient
> barracks of ancestral home. Gladys is her dead mother's BSA Keep Fit,
> amusingly anthropormorphised.
>
> I daresay Hollywood or whoever made the movie will mess up the story, but
> the story series is fun.
>
> With a parting riposte: Foyle's War, and George Gently.
>
> Over and out.
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> bootsnburbs.blogspot.ca
> 
>
>
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[RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Joe Bernard]

He'll kill me for bringing it up again, but I can't see going to threadless and 
73mm, then still stopping short of discs. The people want the little discs, man!

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[RBW] MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[DarinM]

The MTB will have a threadless steerer (didn’t specify diameter) and 73mm BB 
shell according to yesterday’s blahg. I love the way Grant casually drops these 
details.

Darin

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[RBW] Blahg post, 7/20

[Patrick Moore]

Grant wrote:

*Rich here recommended I watch this:*

*https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4271918/*


*It was written in 1945. It's a single-shot movie, close to two hours. If
you want to spoil it for yourself, read the wiki page on it. It was written
by English playwright and novelest, J.B. Priestly, about whom Wikipedia
writes--*

*Priestley was educated at Belle Vue Grammar School
, which he left at
sixteen to work as a junior clerk at Helm & Co., a wool firm in the Swan
Arcade. *

*Don't bother with those links, but you have to admit or correct me if I'm
wrong, but "Swan Arcade" would be a great or just unique name for a bike.*

*I* think that Rivendell ought to make a nod to Flavia de Luce and make a
bicycle called "Gladys," for her BSA "Keep Fit." Or, if you want to be more
Wodehousian, "Gwladys."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTJYMnMTU6I



I have no idea if the movie lives up to the books, but the books are fun in
a well written, literarily interesting, silly way -- 11/12 year old female
scion of impoverished English aristocratic family in 1950-51, precocious
chemist with predilection for poisons, living in huge, ancient barracks of
ancestral home. Gladys is her dead mother's BSA Keep Fit, amusingly
anthropormorphised.

I daresay Hollywood or whoever made the movie will mess up the story, but
the story series is fun.

With a parting riposte: Foyle's War, and George Gently.

Over and out.
View Learn more at
bootsnburbs.blogspot.ca




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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Commuting

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I can recommend a Clementine, aka Clem L. Of all my commuter bikes, that 
was definitely one of my all-time favorites. The long wheelbase, the 
Boscos, the step-through--it was all just right. Very civilized but it 
really cruised. My commute was 7 miles, a little hilly. I think an upright 
posture is good in commuter traffic. With back o bike bags in back and a 
basket up front, also great for stopping for groceries on the way home.

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 3:51:32 PM UTC-4, Doug H. wrote:
>
> I commuted off and on for a few months on a Surly LHT but sold it and 
> stopped commuting. I want to start commuting a few days a week again. My 
> commute is all asphalt and is 9 miles each way...a little hilly. Is there a 
> Riv that would be great for that or would any old Riv do?
> Doug

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Space Behind Seat Tube on LWB Bikes

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Collin, 

I have my tent poles in a 500d Cordura bag I made and I lash it to the seat 
tube with Revelate straps. The bag helps protect the frame a bit, and the 
Revelate straps prevent any movement, rattles and wear. 

Clayton
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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Space Behind Seat Tube on LWB Bikes

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Colin, great name. My sons name is Colin. 
I have my tent poles in a cordura bag I made, to help protect the paint. I use 
two Revelate straps to hold it firmly to the seat tube to prevent rattles and 
wear. 

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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Patrick Moore]

I stopped doing the entire distance entirely by bike circa 2006; 2006 to
7/2008 (when I quit that job) I rode ~ 5 miles down a wooded bike path,
caught an express bus across town on 66/Central, then rode 2-3 more miles.
But I was 50 in 2005, and started feeling that pushing the anaerobic
threshold for 16 to 20 miles (depending on taking a detour or not) and
return in the evening made me feel tired all the time. Fixed gear, btw. I
used to break 60 min clock running, morning and evening rush hours, through
the middle of town (Central/Gold/Central) and the best time I recall for 16
miles was 54 minutes, clock running at all the stop lights along Central.
I'd regularly beat the Route 66 bus: pass it at Gold and 2nd and keep ahead
of it until just west of Central and Juan Tabo.

But even in full summer -- ~100F high today -- the humidity drops pretty
low in the afternoon; it's 7:20 pm MT and it's 96 and 14%, highish, since
the monsoon clouds are trying to break in. Mid June, 100*F and 5%. Far, far
different than the east coast, where I've also lived.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Doug Hansford 
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> That’s an impressive distance Patrick. I live in the hot and humid south
> and would sweat pretty good with that long of a commute.
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 21, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> +1. I used to commute 15-20 miles each way, 7 miles of gradual climbing,
> on everything, from $150 beaters to custom Rivendells; and with Rivendells,
> from fully equipped 3X7s to a custom, stripped-down, lightweight custom Riv
> Road gofast fixie. Fun whatever I was riding.
>
> That said, for the perfect single-purpose Rivendell cross-town commuter,
> I'd consider a Sam Hill or a Roadini.
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
>> I think practically every Riv would be great for that.
>>
>>
>> On 07/21/2018 03:51 PM, Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I commuted off and on for a few months on a Surly LHT but sold it and
>>> stopped commuting. I want to start commuting a few days a week again. My
>>> commute is all asphalt and is 9 miles each way...a little hilly. Is there a
>>> Riv that would be great for that or would any old Riv do?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Doug Hansford]

That’s an impressive distance Patrick. I live in the hot and humid south and 
would sweat pretty good with that long of a commute. 
Doug

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2018, at 6:37 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> +1. I used to commute 15-20 miles each way, 7 miles of gradual climbing, on 
> everything, from $150 beaters to custom Rivendells; and with Rivendells, from 
> fully equipped 3X7s to a custom, stripped-down, lightweight custom Riv Road 
> gofast fixie. Fun whatever I was riding.
> 
> That said, for the perfect single-purpose Rivendell cross-town commuter, I'd 
> consider a Sam Hill or a Roadini.
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> I think practically every Riv would be great for that.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 07/21/2018 03:51 PM, Doug H. wrote:
>>> I commuted off and on for a few months on a Surly LHT but sold it and 
>>> stopped commuting. I want to start commuting a few days a week again. My 
>>> commute is all asphalt and is 9 miles each way...a little hilly. Is there a 
>>> Riv that would be great for that or would any old Riv do?
>>> Doug
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

One more thing: The bike has to be relatively theft proof. I will provide a
humungous lock, but pretty and well equipped is probably less desirable
than good-running beater.

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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Patrick Moore]

+1. I used to commute 15-20 miles each way, 7 miles of gradual climbing, on
everything, from $150 beaters to custom Rivendells; and with Rivendells,
from fully equipped 3X7s to a custom, stripped-down, lightweight custom Riv
Road gofast fixie. Fun whatever I was riding.

That said, for the perfect single-purpose Rivendell cross-town commuter,
I'd consider a Sam Hill or a Roadini.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> I think practically every Riv would be great for that.
>
>
> On 07/21/2018 03:51 PM, Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I commuted off and on for a few months on a Surly LHT but sold it and
>> stopped commuting. I want to start commuting a few days a week again. My
>> commute is all asphalt and is 9 miles each way...a little hilly. Is there a
>> Riv that would be great for that or would any old Riv do?
>> Doug
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

To clarify further: I will exhaust all usedn and new possiblities including
used mtbs on craigslist, but I'd like to see first what used, 50 mm tired,
horizontal dropout options are available. The ideal will be something like
that Fairdale 26" BMX bike with a kickback that gives you a, say, 36 t ring
and 19 t cog for a 49 and 68" gears.

I am open to frames, wheelsets, cranksets, and cockpits. I expect to
upgrade.

Perhaps a decent used rigid mtb frame that I could convert with tensioner,
kickback, and say North Road bar and controls.

Yes, I'm choosing what *I *think best, but I also think I've got a good
idea about what would work well for the man. And, I might as well have some
fun with the project, too.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> To clarify: I'd prefer to start by looking at offers for used goods, to
> either get more quality for the budget or pay less and have $ left over for
> upgrading tires, pedals
>
> Let's say $500 budget.
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> I know someone who is looking for a job and who does not have a car; he's
>> walked 2 hours only to find that he didn't get the job.
>>
>> He's very interested in a usable utility bike for someone about my size,
>> 5'10", tho' I think more of his length is in his legs. My ideal size is a
>> 60 X 56.6 c-c, but I've happily ridden everything from 54 to 60, c-c (54
>> was a custom Riv Road based on original All Rounder).
>>
>> I can and probably will replace tires for, say, Big Apples. Can also
>> replace saddle and consumables, but would like decent brakes and drivetrain.
>>
>> As far as drive train, the simpler and more bulletproof the better. I
>> think he'd be fine with a large BMX bike, so one of these, probably 24"
>> wheels (do they make 26" models?).
>>
>> Repeat for emphasis: I think a large BMX type bike would be best; the
>> best drivetrain will be SS or perhaps a kick back hub, assuming that these
>> last are bulletproof.
>>
>> Standard components best.
>>
>> Paint not a big consideration, but all equal, nice rather than horrible.
>>
>> To quote Justin Wilson again, "Whatcha got?"
>>
>> Thanks.
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[RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[WETH]

Doug,
Yes, any Riv would handle the task well.  Having commuted (8 hilly miles each 
way) on an LHT, Atlantis, Romulus, and a Cheviot, my favorite is the Cheviot 
with Little Big Ben tires, fenders, rear saddlesack and a front basket. A 
wonderful bike all around.
Good luck,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Commuting

[Collin A]

Yeah, any Riv is made for a good commute! Just throw a cheapo front/rear 
rack and  basket on and you can carry all of your gear in a bag you 
probably already have lying around. 

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Space Behind Seat Tube on LWB Bikes

[Collin A]

Nice, are the poles just strapped on using straps/velcro? Yeah, its very 
satisfying when everything finds its way to a perfect spot on the bike!

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 7:50:33 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:
>
> On my Toyo Atlantis, my new UL Big Agnes one man tent poles fit behind the 
> seat tube with a millimeter in length clearance, running 2.35 tires. If I 
> had a smaller frame, the poles would be too long. I was quite delighted to 
> find they fit. I was straping my old tent poles on the side of my rear rack 
> parallel to the ground and the poles stuck out the rear. My setup is now 
> nice and compact. Thanks Grant for leaving room!
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Jim M.]

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 11:07:19 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>
> He's very interested in a usable utility bike for someone about my size, 
> 5'10", tho' I think more of his length is in his legs. My ideal size is a 
> 60 X 56.6 c-c, but I've happily ridden everything from 54 to 60, c-c (54 
> was a custom Riv Road based on original All Rounder).
>
> Why not get a used mtb, 
e.g., 
https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/bik/d/schwinn-moab-elite-size-medium/6612483023.html?
 

If it has too many gears, take off the shifters, and adjust the derailleur 
limiting screws to whatever gear works best. Or put it in the middle ring, 
take off the front shifter, and let him have 7 rear gears.

jim m
walnut creek ca

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[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

[John Hawrylak]

It seems the Ram evolved into the AHH & SH & Roadini & the inclusion of 
650B for the smaller frames.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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>
> On another subject, maybe with this switch to the Far East for 
> manufacturing, Riv could resurrect the Ram. Just a thought.
>
> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> I was looking for the Roadeo on the Riv site, and couldn't find it. I am 
>> thinking of going to a Compass tubeless tire in a 700x35 size and was 
>> wondering if it would fit my 59cm Roadeo.
>>
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Bob K.]

Specifically, the Fairdale Taj is pretty much exactly what you describe. Retail 
is $559 right now. 

https://store.fairdalebikes.com/collections/2018-fairdale-bikes/products/2018-fairdale-taj-26-black

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Bob K.]

I know you said used, but Fairdale makes some pretty bulletproof and versatile 
bikes for cheap. Bonus with new for a rider with less desire to pick up a 
wrench is that most bike shops (at least my LBS) offer some sort of a service 
plan for the first year to keep it running well.

https://store.fairdalebikes.com/pages/2018-fairdale-bikes/

My buddy just got a Fairdale Weekender and he loves it. That’s $800, but there 
are a few in the $500 range that might be great.

The Flat Bar Surly Crosscheck is around $800 and it comes with a rack.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Jonathan D.]

Any Riv would work. The Sam is probably the middle bike between a lighter road 
bike (Roadini) option or the more loaded touring, LHT type bike (Joe and MIT 
Atlantis).  A Clem is a good cheaper option to the LHT side. Since you want
Fenders and probably wider tires I might forgo the Roadini. 

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[RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Joe Bernard]

Yes and yes. They're all great for it, it just depends on what 
price/weight/tire/bags capacity you want to target. On the lower-cost TIGed end 
you have the pullback bar Clem, which will do and carry anything; or Roadini 
for the lighter, zippier road bike dash to work. Or Sam, or Appaloosa, or 
Atlantis, or AHH, or... 

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Re: [RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Steve Palincsar]

I think practically every Riv would be great for that.


On 07/21/2018 03:51 PM, Doug H. wrote:

I commuted off and on for a few months on a Surly LHT but sold it and stopped 
commuting. I want to start commuting a few days a week again. My commute is all 
asphalt and is 9 miles each way...a little hilly. Is there a Riv that would be 
great for that or would any old Riv do?
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Joe Bernard]

PM sent, I might have something he can use. 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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[RBW] Bicycle Commuting

[Doug H.]

I commuted off and on for a few months on a Surly LHT but sold it and stopped 
commuting. I want to start commuting a few days a week again. My commute is all 
asphalt and is 9 miles each way...a little hilly. Is there a Riv that would be 
great for that or would any old Riv do?
Doug

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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

To clarify: I'd prefer to start by looking at offers for used goods, to
either get more quality for the budget or pay less and have $ left over for
upgrading tires, pedals

Let's say $500 budget.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I know someone who is looking for a job and who does not have a car; he's
> walked 2 hours only to find that he didn't get the job.
>
> He's very interested in a usable utility bike for someone about my size,
> 5'10", tho' I think more of his length is in his legs. My ideal size is a
> 60 X 56.6 c-c, but I've happily ridden everything from 54 to 60, c-c (54
> was a custom Riv Road based on original All Rounder).
>
> I can and probably will replace tires for, say, Big Apples. Can also
> replace saddle and consumables, but would like decent brakes and drivetrain.
>
> As far as drive train, the simpler and more bulletproof the better. I
> think he'd be fine with a large BMX bike, so one of these, probably 24"
> wheels (do they make 26" models?).
>
> Repeat for emphasis: I think a large BMX type bike would be best; the best
> drivetrain will be SS or perhaps a kick back hub, assuming that these last
> are bulletproof.
>
> Standard components best.
>
> Paint not a big consideration, but all equal, nice rather than horrible.
>
> To quote Justin Wilson again, "Whatcha got?"
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

Saw this as I posted in reply to the earlier message.

That one looks better, but again, for both bike and bag, I'd prefer to buy
used and either get more quality for the $ or pay less $ for the bike and
bag. I do want some budget in reserve for tire and perhaps pedal swaps.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Justin, Oakland 
wrote:

> Or this one:
> https://www.virtuecycles.com/products/virtue-revive
>
> For backpacks, it depends on what he’s carrying and how bulky he wants it
> to be. I like my super lightweight Marmot backpack that can stuff into a
> pocket if need be.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. Before I go new, I'd prefer to find out what the used market has to
offer.

The Virtue is alright, but I'd prefer something with fatter tires.

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> https://www.virtuecycles.com/products/virtue-campus-1m
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Justin, Oakland]

Or this one:
https://www.virtuecycles.com/products/virtue-revive

For backpacks, it depends on what he’s carrying and how bulky he wants it to 
be. I like my super lightweight Marmot backpack that can stuff into a pocket if 
need be. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Justin, Oakland]

https://www.virtuecycles.com/products/virtue-campus-1m

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

I'd like him to ride away for under $500 with shipping, if that's
reasonable.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Belopsky  wrote:

> Is there a budget?
> I almost bought one of these
> https://store.fairdalebikes.com/collections/2018-fairdale-
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Belopsky]

Is there a budget?
I almost bought one of these
https://store.fairdalebikes.com/collections/2018-fairdale-bikes/products/2018-fairdale-taj-26-black

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 61cm A. Homer Hilsen - Frame + Fork + Headset or Almost Complete

[René Sterental]

Thanks!

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 5:56 PM Sky Coulter  wrote:

> Beautiful bike and tempting. Hope someone snaps it up quick.  I have a
> saluki and a romulus that I think I'd have to get rid of to justify this
> one. which just seems like a massive headache. And then the fear of
> regret...
>
> Best of luck with the sale. It looks to be in fantastic condition.
>
> Sky in new west
>
>
> On Thursday, 19 July 2018 13:06:48 UTC-7, René wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Continuing on my (slow) downsizing project, I've decided to sell my 61cm
>> Waterford built AHH. The bike is in excellent condition with just a few
>> paint chips.
>> - Frame, fork & DuraAce headset: $ 1,000 + shipping via Bike Flights
>>
>> While the bike is still assembled, I can include:
>> - Sugino XD2 Triple crankset: $110
>> - Phil BB: $100
>> - Shimano XT / Mavic A719 36 spoked Rich-built Wheelset: $300
>> - Paul Center-pull brakes with Yokozuna pads: +$200 for the set F/R
>> - Shimano DuraAce 9 speed downtube shifters: $50
>> - Shimano RD-M772 9 speed rear derailer: $50
>> - Campagnolo Mirage triple front derailer 9 speed: $30
>> - Shimano 9 speed cassette 12-36: $20
>> - Nitto Mark's Rack original (with front tab): $100
>> - Compass BonJon Pass 700x35 Extralight tan sidewall with lots of life
>> left (center grooves very visible): $100
>> - King Iris bottle cages: $12 each or both for $20
>>
>> If the frame sells alone, these plus other parts will be available for
>> sale individually.
>>
>> Not including seat post, saddle, pedals or cockpit. For local pickup in
>> the SF Bay Area, I'll leave the Honjo fenders mounted, if shipping, most
>> likely will need to remove, but will include for free if you want them.
>>
>> Offers accepted.
>>
>> Photos here:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/42609611155/in/album-72157622508702300/
>> Scroll to the left to see more details.
>>
>> René
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, and I'd like to find a good quality but not too expensive or too
complicated backpack useful while riding a bike.

Thanks.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I know someone who is looking for a job and who does not have a car; he's
> walked 2 hours only to find that he didn't get the job.
>
> He's very interested in a usable utility bike for someone about my size,
> 5'10", tho' I think more of his length is in his legs. My ideal size is a
> 60 X 56.6 c-c, but I've happily ridden everything from 54 to 60, c-c (54
> was a custom Riv Road based on original All Rounder).
>
> I can and probably will replace tires for, say, Big Apples. Can also
> replace saddle and consumables, but would like decent brakes and drivetrain.
>
> As far as drive train, the simpler and more bulletproof the better. I
> think he'd be fine with a large BMX bike, so one of these, probably 24"
> wheels (do they make 26" models?).
>
> Repeat for emphasis: I think a large BMX type bike would be best; the best
> drivetrain will be SS or perhaps a kick back hub, assuming that these last
> are bulletproof.
>
> Standard components best.
>
> Paint not a big consideration, but all equal, nice rather than horrible.
>
> To quote Justin Wilson again, "Whatcha got?"
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: parts for sale: compass tires, pacenti tire, fabric swoop seat, microshift shifters, sunrace levers

[Belopsky]

Compass tires gone, microshift gone, motolite gone.

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[RBW] ISO inexpensive but decent utility bike; possible large BMX or possibly city bike with kickback hub

[Patrick Moore]

I know someone who is looking for a job and who does not have a car; he's
walked 2 hours only to find that he didn't get the job.

He's very interested in a usable utility bike for someone about my size,
5'10", tho' I think more of his length is in his legs. My ideal size is a
60 X 56.6 c-c, but I've happily ridden everything from 54 to 60, c-c (54
was a custom Riv Road based on original All Rounder).

I can and probably will replace tires for, say, Big Apples. Can also
replace saddle and consumables, but would like decent brakes and drivetrain.

As far as drive train, the simpler and more bulletproof the better. I think
he'd be fine with a large BMX bike, so one of these, probably 24" wheels
(do they make 26" models?).

Repeat for emphasis: I think a large BMX type bike would be best; the best
drivetrain will be SS or perhaps a kick back hub, assuming that these last
are bulletproof.

Standard components best.

Paint not a big consideration, but all equal, nice rather than horrible.

To quote Justin Wilson again, "Whatcha got?"

Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

[Joe Bernard]

It says 5-8 months, the last I heard was 9. Which explains why Riv/Grant has 
virtually given up the Waterford frames business: There's just too much money 
and time required of a buyer who might as well make the 'full custom Rivendell' 
leap at that point. They're getting perfectly good bikes from Taiwan you can 
ride home right now for reasonable money. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. Yes, no beer often = emergency.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 8:40 AM, Ana Candela  wrote:

> Patrick, you’re right. I should’ve clarified that two straps are ideal,
> but you could get away with only one in an emergency situation —which beer
> runs tend to be ;-)
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[RBW] Re: pinching fenders and Quickbeam clearances

[Patch T]

Update, SKS B53 fits perfectly in my QB frame, no pinching, bending, 
cutting, or anything. Slides right in, lines up with all clearances 
perfectly.

42mm Shikoros fit nicely inside, ample(ish) room. Fender line looks pretty 
ok, too. Not perfect, but not jarring.

Patch 
BK/NY

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with net 
and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
production out there. 

And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle another 
basket net ever again!



I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
identity crisis of sorts.

Patch
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[RBW] FS: Light Grey Grid Medium ShopSack, Wald 137 Basket

[gabriel luke thompson aspinwall]

I'm selling my Light Grey Medium Shopsack I used about 3 times. $55 shipped.
Also I have a wald 137 Basket I never set up, still in the protective 
packaging from rivendell. 20 shipped. Save the cost of shipping and tax and 
3 dollars.
$70 for both.

Thanks, Gabe

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[RBW] Re: parts for sale: compass tires, pacenti tire, fabric swoop seat, microshift shifters, sunrace levers

[Belopsky]

forgot paul motolite brakes for $180 for the pair

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 12:15:58 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HziE1u8eiSBHrvkT7
>
>
> Compass Stampede Pass Extralight 700x32 - pair - Low miles, Maybe 50, just 
> a bit dirty. $130 shipped
>
> Pacenti 650x38mm mounted and ridden around block, $30 shipped
>
> Fabric Scoop shallow - 50 miles - $55 shipped
>
> Microshift 9speed shifters - $70 22.2mm diameter flat bar
>
> sunrace brake levers $15
>
> all prices shipped
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[RBW] parts for sale: compass tires, pacenti tire, fabric swoop seat, microshift shifters, sunrace levers

[Belopsky]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HziE1u8eiSBHrvkT7


Compass Stampede Pass Extralight 700x32 - pair - Low miles, Maybe 50, just 
a bit dirty. $130 shipped

Pacenti 650x38mm mounted and ridden around block, $30 shipped

Fabric Scoop shallow - 50 miles - $55 shipped

Microshift 9speed shifters - $70 22.2mm diameter flat bar

sunrace brake levers $15

all prices shipped

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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on Space Behind Seat Tube on LWB Bikes

[Tim Butterfield]

Isn’t that where the battery pack goes on many e-bikes?  Just saying.

Tim

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 5:22 PM Collin A  wrote:

> With Riv's full dedication on the longer wheel base design, there is now a
> significant underutilized space between the seat-tube and the rear wheel
> with all sorts of possibilities to jam stuff in there. Has anyone though of
> clever items to stuff there and/or the means of attaching them? Riv has an
> example on one of their demo Atlantis' and I overheard someone talking
> about a bag that could be custom made to fit that space. Currently I just
> have my trail pump strapped on there...
>
> Looking forward to hearing people's ideas!
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[RBW] Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Ana Candela]

Patch,

The great thing about bike baskets is their versatility, and with a cargo net, 
you don’t have to use a basket specific bag. You can switch them out depending 
on load, weather... Love'em all bags!

Here are a few:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/8129051@N06/42433547615/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8129051@N06/42597754425/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8129051@N06/28446717847/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8129051@N06/41028833430/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/8129051@N06/42071884644/in/dateposted-public/

-Ana, bags n+1

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Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Och, aye, Ana. In that a prepubescent whisky run inherantly means the mature 
malt is unobtainable ...  emergency indeed! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Thoughts on Space Behind Seat Tube on LWB Bikes

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On my Toyo Atlantis, my new UL Big Agnes one man tent poles fit behind the seat 
tube with a millimeter in length clearance, running 2.35 tires. If I had a 
smaller frame, the poles would be too long. I was quite delighted to find they 
fit. I was straping my old tent poles on the side of my rear rack parallel to 
the ground and the poles stuck out the rear. My setup is now nice and compact. 
Thanks Grant for leaving room!

Clayton
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Re: [RBW] Re: Naive but very important question: how best to attach 12-packs to your rear rack?

[Ana Candela]

Patrick, you’re right. I should’ve clarified that two straps are ideal, but you 
could get away with only one in an emergency situation —which beer runs tend to 
be ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

[Belopsky]

Thanks for the link.

Page updated 8/15/17


I think the lead time is longer than it states. Doubt you can get something 
in 5months.

As an aside, didn't Boulder Bike stop taking orders because of Waterford 
supply issues?

 
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/rivendell-models-1
This link from the frame page seems to indicate the Rodeo can be a special 
order.

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[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

[WETH]

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/rivendell-models-1
This link from the frame page seems to indicate the Rodeo can be a special 
order.

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[RBW] Re: Is the Roadeo gone?

[Belopsky]

>From what I understand, Waterford no longer has True Temper tubing. I still 
see builders builiding with it (Chris Kelly, for instance) but I assume 
this is old stock they have.

The new company in USA is Vari Wall (https://shop.vari-wall.com/)

I don't know where Waterford gets their tubing anymore.

I'm sure you can still ask Riv about a Roadeo or any of their other USA 
made frames and you could get it ordered. 

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