[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio]

Not fatbike wide but certainly chubby enough.

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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've got it mostly built now, at least enough to take for a short test 
spin, and I can tell I am going to have a lot of fun on this bike!  I've 
got a temporary seatpost in it, and I just ordered bar tape, but I'll post 
pics when they are in place.  Also, having bar end shifters on the 
Albatross really opens up a second hand placement in the curves, which was 
awkward with the top mounted thumbies I had on them on the other bike.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Sam Hillborne, dark orange

[eddietheflay]

I have owned nearly a zillion bikes in the last 18 years, including an 
early orange Rambouillet. That and this one are two of the most 
aesthetically pleasing bikes in the estimation of my eyeballs.

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 5:13:57 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>
> $1600 + my cost to have it professionally packed and shipped to you via 
> bike flights.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Sale price does *not *include:
> - Pedals
> - Saddle
>
> I bought it new from Riv as a 'complete' in July of 2017.  You can see 
> Riv's spec's for the complete drop bar build here:
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/sam-hillborne-complete-drop-bar (no more 
> 58s at Riv, evidently, but build is the same).
>
> The only mod's I had done were to:
> 1. Replace the 48 Noodle that comes with a 58 with a 46, and wrap with 
> black cork tape+twine
> 2.  Add a Pletscher kickstand.
>
> I put the original Kenda 38mm tires back on it.  They have about 50 mi on 
> them.
>
> I just cleaned it up, and honestly, it looks brand new, except for a 
> single very small 3mm scratch on the drive side seat stay, shown in one of 
> the pic's.  No rust.  The paint and decals are pristine.  
>
> Pictures for the bike as offered for sale are here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9uSUDtGvFpqdcgsdA
>
> Other pictures of it in various stages are here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9kfJxuf3sXyDyBoA3
>
> Thanks for looking,
> Tom
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is 7 cm the shortest Tallux extension?

[WETH]

If you need a lot of height try this 
one:https://americancyclery.com/products/nitto-technomics-280mm-1-quill-stem-26-0-clamp
I used it on a bike and had no issue ordering from American  Cyclery. 

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Doug Bloch]

I’ve used the Tiagras, basic Tektros, and TRP RRLs. The TRPs are the most 
comfortable for me and look pretty. They offer multiple points of contact on 
the levers and a solid perch to sit on if you like to ride on the hoods a lot.

YMMV of course.

Doug
Alameda CA USA

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Sam Hillborne, dark orange

[tc]

Note the Google Photos album also contains a short "walk-around" video 
where I tried to show the components and condition of paint, decals, etc..

Tom

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[RBW] FS: 58 Sam Hillborne, dark orange

[tc]

$1600 + my cost to have it professionally packed and shipped to you via 
bike flights.




Sale price does *not *include:
- Pedals
- Saddle

I bought it new from Riv as a 'complete' in July of 2017.  You can see 
Riv's spec's for the complete drop bar build here:
https://www.rivbike.com/products/sam-hillborne-complete-drop-bar (no more 
58s at Riv, evidently, but build is the same).

The only mod's I had done were to:
1. Replace the 48 Noodle that comes with a 58 with a 46, and wrap with 
black cork tape+twine
2.  Add a Pletscher kickstand.

I put the original Kenda 38mm tires back on it.  They have about 50 mi on 
them.

I just cleaned it up, and honestly, it looks brand new, except for a single 
very small 3mm scratch on the drive side seat stay, shown in one of the 
pic's.  No rust.  The paint and decals are pristine.  

Pictures for the bike as offered for sale are here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9uSUDtGvFpqdcgsdA

Other pictures of it in various stages are here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9kfJxuf3sXyDyBoA3

Thanks for looking,
Tom

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[RBW] FS: 62 SimpleOne, Dark Green

[tc]

$1300 + my cost to have it professionally packed and shipped to you via 
bike flights.




I bought this from a list member earlier this year.  It was a fun build 
project, but I gotta let it go!  Everything works like a charm. 

- White Industries Eno dingle crank (38/35)
- White Ind Dos Eno freewheel (16/18)
- Surly double fixed cog (17/20)
- Paul track hub + Velocity Dyad 32H rim on the rear.
- Front wheel is a Velocity Synergy 36H laced to a Shimano Deore XT hub.
- Tektro canti's
- Kalloy Uno seatpost
- Kickstand plate (but no kickstand)

I bought this from another list member.  My additions after I got it (New = 
I bought the part new, not used off another bike):
- New Albatross handlebar, mounted inverted for "path racer" look
- New Brooks leather tape grips
- New Tektro Mountain levers
- New Jagwire brake cables + housing
- New KMC Chain, Z610HX series 1-spd, silver
- New Continental Contact Speed 700x42 tires (approx 15 mi on them)

More pic's, and a quick video or two, here:  
https://photos.app.goo.gl/z17FNiW0tL1MRe0M2

Note that sale price does *not *include the following, some of which are in 
the above pic's:
- Saddle
- Saddle bag
- Pedals
- Bottle cage
- Water bottle
- Multi-tool attached to seat tube.
- Pump

Thanks for looking,
Tom

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Looks properly TUFF and wide!

Eamon
Seattle 

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[ML / SF]

>From today's newsletter:


> Here's the new MTB fork that has us all excited. We'll get the bikes built 
> up for Interbike late next week. They're looking really fun; check Grant's 
> Blagh 
> 
>  
> for more updates a little later on.
>
 

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[RBW] Re: Funny Ad Copy About Riv Tires

[Garth]

Laing,  At the top-right(see 3 flags) of the page you can set the 
currency and country of shipping. 



On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 4:10:13 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> The site is in England, have you changed the prices from pounds to dollars?
>
> Laing
> Cocoa, FL
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Funny Ad Copy About Riv Tires

[lconley]

The site is in England, have you changed the prices from pounds to dollars?

Laing
Cocoa, FL

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 3:37:32 PM UTC-4, Chad wrote:

> Cool stuff.  Thanks for sharing.  As much as I love the Compass, I am 
> having a hard time plopping down $130 after shipping just for 2 standard 
> casing tires.  Most of the hard to find classic Riv tires are listed for 
> just under $30 with some at $17 and change.  $18.40 5-7 day shipping to the 
> US with tracking and insurance is not terrible either.  They list Fatty 
> Rumpkin Greens for $17.74!

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Lum Gim Fong]

I just got a set of the TRP's. Only $52.99
I think I will try to use the included shim for the flatter, more modern 
looking angle transition instead of them sticking straight up and away from 
bars.


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[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Hi Marc!
Yeah it's a bit antiquatedthe way I did it is I called first to see if 
the cabin I wanted was availablethey reserve it for you and direct you 
to fill out the formthen you send the form and paymentand they 
respond with final confirmation.

It's a very easy process  

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[RBW] Funny Ad Copy About Riv Tires

[Chad]

Cool stuff.  Thanks for sharing.  As much as I love the Compass, I am having a 
hard time plopping down $130 after shipping just for 2 standard casing tires.  
Most of the hard to find classic Riv tires are listed for just under $30 with 
some at $17 and change.  $18.40 5-7 day shipping to the US with tracking and 
insurance is not terrible either.  They list Fatty Rumpkin Greens for $17.74!

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[RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Philip Williamson]

The last time I've seen the King/Bontrager hubs on ebay, they were hundreds 
of dollars. The 1999 set I have on the Bontrager Privateer are 24/28 hole 
hubs. The main difference between the Bontrager version and the Classic 
Kings of the era were that the Bontrager version has beefed-up flanges to 
support the radial front and half-radial rear lacing that the stock wheels 
came with. IIRC. 

I did get a silver 32h 135 King classic rear hub from ebay for ~$120 
shipped a couple years ago. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 9:41:10 AM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> there are also some older bontrager branded hubs (from early 90s 26" 
> wheelsets) that are actually chris king. you can tell just by looking at 
> the hubshell and some sellers list this. might try looking for that, too. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 5:22:55 PM UTC-7, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>
>> Sadly these are no longer in production...and I have always had an 
>> irrational thirst for their super loud pawls.  
>>
>> Wishing on a star someone has one on the shelf collecting dust.  The high 
>> flange model is currently a two month lead time.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Alex Wirth
>> Rochester, NY
>>
>>
>> ***If you have one but it's not silver, I'm all ears
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

I'm currently making a plea to have a ebay guy in california cut out some 
hubs from an old MTN wheelset so I can save on shipping 

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:32:11 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> I have!  Unfortunately I don't think they make a 135mm hub in rim brake
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

I have!  Unfortunately I don't think they make a 135mm hub in rim brake

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Tommy Patterson]

Oops, I think I sent a link to the disc hubs. You can navigate to the
non-disc hubs but I'm not sure if they have a 135 non-disc. Could be a
semi-custom option if you call them.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 1:23 PM Tommy Patterson 
wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Have you looked into Industry nine hubs:
> https://industrynine.com/torch-classic-road-hubs/classic-j-bend-road-cx-disc-hubs
>
> I have a non-disc pair of these classic hubs on my road bike and they have
> the familiar roar of a Chris king. Also, they're MUSA in Asheville, NC and
> look great.
>
> Tommy
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:51 PM Minh  wrote:
>
>> virgil is onto the right idea, as i have a set of CK hubs on 26" rims
>> that i treated myself too many years ago.  i should sell them but can't
>> seem to let go!
>>
>> the buzzing is way over the top, but like dave says, has no equal!
>>
>> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4, Virgil Staphbeard wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't but I'd check ebay for old MTB wheels. I have exactly what
>>> you're in search of laced to a 26" rim that I found on ebay for $75
>>> shipped. It was pretty much new. No one seems to be interested in 26" rim
>>> brake wheels or has the foresight to delace one I suppose.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Tommy Patterson]

Alex,

Have you looked into Industry nine hubs:
https://industrynine.com/torch-classic-road-hubs/classic-j-bend-road-cx-disc-hubs

I have a non-disc pair of these classic hubs on my road bike and they have
the familiar roar of a Chris king. Also, they're MUSA in Asheville, NC and
look great.

Tommy


On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:51 PM Minh  wrote:

> virgil is onto the right idea, as i have a set of CK hubs on 26" rims that
> i treated myself too many years ago.  i should sell them but can't seem to
> let go!
>
> the buzzing is way over the top, but like dave says, has no equal!
>
> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4, Virgil Staphbeard wrote:
>>
>> I don't but I'd check ebay for old MTB wheels. I have exactly what you're
>> in search of laced to a 26" rim that I found on ebay for $75 shipped. It
>> was pretty much new. No one seems to be interested in 26" rim brake wheels
>> or has the foresight to delace one I suppose.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Minh]

virgil is onto the right idea, as i have a set of CK hubs on 26" rims that 
i treated myself too many years ago.  i should sell them but can't seem to 
let go!  

the buzzing is way over the top, but like dave says, has no equal!

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-4, Virgil Staphbeard wrote:
>
> I don't but I'd check ebay for old MTB wheels. I have exactly what you're 
> in search of laced to a 26" rim that I found on ebay for $75 shipped. It 
> was pretty much new. No one seems to be interested in 26" rim brake wheels 
> or has the foresight to delace one I suppose. 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The TRP levers are far superior in ergonomics (for me) when braking on
descents etc.  The major difference that you might notice is the flatness
in terms of the transition from the bars to the hoods.  The Shimano has a
very smooth/unnoticeable transition (on the bars I've tried), whereas you
might notice a little bump for the TRP levers, but the gain in ergonomics
makes it worth it for me to have the TRPs.

Toshi


>
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[RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Adam Leibow]

there are also some older bontrager branded hubs (from early 90s 26" 
wheelsets) that are actually chris king. you can tell just by looking at 
the hubshell and some sellers list this. might try looking for that, too. 

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 5:22:55 PM UTC-7, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Sadly these are no longer in production...and I have always had an 
> irrational thirst for their super loud pawls.  
>
> Wishing on a star someone has one on the shelf collecting dust.  The high 
> flange model is currently a two month lead time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
> ***If you have one but it's not silver, I'm all ears
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Tommy Patterson]

I was bent on buying a pair of the TRP levers for their looks, but once I
held them at my LBS I found the hood shape where my hands would sit
"pointy" and somewhat slim for my larger hands. To me they felt like a
cross between the BRL 400s and a modern, boxy brifter. If you like the feel
of a flatter, larger platform try out the basic Tektro brake levers. They
feel surprisingly good and still have the campy-style brake release button.
And they're half the price...

Tommy

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 8:03 AM Belopsky  wrote:

> Thinking about switching from my tektro to those TRP
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Re: [RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

[Jim Bronson]

Keith,

Would you be willing to take another picture of the Billie with the stem
mount lined up (about 2" forward from where it is in the pic)?

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 10:30 AM iamkeith  wrote:

> Just occurred to me that I had these all sitting out and handy.  Here's a
> photo showing a 58cm bosco, a Billie and an Open.
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 6:51:28 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >For bars take look at either a Jones bar or the Surly Open bar. The
> black only Surly has 53 degree sweep(25.4 stem), the silver/black
> Jones(31.8 stem) 45 degrees. Surly is 66cm wide and the Jones is  66 or 71.
> >
> >
> >I suspect much of not liking friction shifting has to do with the
> oddities of those particular/peculiar SunRace thumbies.
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[RBW] Stronglight Fenders

[jandrews]

Hello
Curious if anyone has used the new Stronglight fenders that P.W. sells?
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/str-mg.php
I see they come in a 700x55 which is what I think I need to max out my 1st 
gen S.H. 
Currently I have 50mm fenders and am running 700x43 tires.   There is a 
little bit of wiggle room at the chain stay bridge and under the fork crown 
to go bigger,  but I know from experience I can not fit the 700x60 
stainless Berthoud fenders I purchased many years ago.
I have not seen a lot of 55mm width fenders for 700c wheels, so these may 
do the trick.
Also curious about coverage...does anyone have them installed on their bike?
thank you

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[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

[lconley]

I am in the process of converting my Clementine to the Jones bars with the 
2.5 rise on a VO stem (currently Boscomoose). I think I will end up with 
silver shifters on the SunRace clamps. I love the way that the base on the 
SR clamps can be rotated.

Laing
Cocoa FL

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 8:51:28 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:

>   
>
>
>For bars take look at either a Jones bar or the Surly Open bar. The 
> black only Surly has 53 degree sweep(25.4 stem), the silver/black 
> Jones(31.8 stem) 45 degrees. Surly is 66cm wide and the Jones is  66 or 71.
>
>I suspect much of not liking friction shifting has to do with the 
> oddities of those particular/peculiar SunRace thumbies.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Belopsky]

Thinking about switching from my tektro to those TRP

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[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

[Garth]

>
>   


   For bars take look at either a Jones bar or the Surly Open bar. The 
black only Surly has 53 degree sweep(25.4 stem), the silver/black 
Jones(31.8 stem) 45 degrees. Surly is 66cm wide and the Jones is  66 or 71.

   I suspect much of not liking friction shifting has to do with the 
oddities of those particular/peculiar SunRace thumbies.  

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[phil k]

I made the switch from Shimano 105 aero's to TRP. I like the TRPs so far. 
Looks great, but its a bit more ergonomic. Easier to brake in the hoods, 
roomier, and the quick release function is nice if you run big tires.

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 7:38:22 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Riv sells both models. 
>
> The Shimano type has always been good for me but lately my big thumb 
> joints are hurting after riding with them. Maybe I am getting some 
> arthritis in them and the levers are digging into my thumb/index web too 
> much (that’s the joint in there). Also, the Shimanos have that hooked top 
> point that pokes back into that thumb/index crotch when I use the alt grip 
> holding the very tops of levers. Shimanos very narrow width, too. 
>
> Was wondering if the TRP RRL are more hand friendly? 
>
> Anyone can relate their experiences with both?

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Garth]

 

Buy the TRP , they certainly can't be worse than the Shimano you have 
!  The larger bodied levers are a whole lot roomier than the "old" style, 
which I always found too small. 

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Ryan M.]

They are, in my experience. The trps are a little wider and have that extra 
hand perch up top which is somewhat useful. The button that releases the 
lever is pretty useful, IMHO, especially when hooked up to v-brakes or 
cantis; it just helps put slack in the cables to remove tires. The lever 
portion is a different shape too, but I think that is neither here nor 
there. The Tiagras are less expensive, especially considering you get some 
brake cable and housing with them. 

On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 6:38:22 AM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Riv sells both models. 
>
> The Shimano type has always been good for me but lately my big thumb 
> joints are hurting after riding with them. Maybe I am getting some 
> arthritis in them and the levers are digging into my thumb/index web too 
> much (that’s the joint in there). Also, the Shimanos have that hooked top 
> point that pokes back into that thumb/index crotch when I use the alt grip 
> holding the very tops of levers. Shimanos very narrow width, too. 
>
> Was wondering if the TRP RRL are more hand friendly? 
>
> Anyone can relate their experiences with both?

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[RBW] Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Riv sells both models.

The Shimano type has always been good for me but lately my big thumb joints are 
hurting after riding with them. Maybe I am getting some arthritis in them and 
the levers are digging into my thumb/index web too much (that’s the joint in 
there). Also, the Shimanos have that hooked top point that pokes back into that 
thumb/index crotch when I use the alt grip holding the very tops of levers. 
Shimanos very narrow width, too.

Was wondering if the TRP RRL are more hand friendly?

Anyone can relate their experiences with both?

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[RBW] Re: ISO Chris King Rear Hub, 135mm, 36h, low flange, silver (Non Disc)

[Virgil Staphbeard]

I don't but I'd check ebay for old MTB wheels. I have exactly what you're 
in search of laced to a 26" rim that I found on ebay for $75 shipped. It 
was pretty much new. No one seems to be interested in 26" rim brake wheels 
or has the foresight to delace one I suppose. 

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:22:55 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Sadly these are no longer in production...and I have always had an 
> irrational thirst for their super loud pawls.  
>
> Wishing on a star someone has one on the shelf collecting dust.  The high 
> flange model is currently a two month lead time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
> ***If you have one but it's not silver, I'm all ears
>

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[RBW] Re: Is 7 cm the shortest Tallux extension?

[Linda G]

I bought 2 of the stems you are asking about from Universal 
Cycles. https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=7425.

On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 6:42:57 AM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I'm gonna put drops on my hunqapillar and was looking Tallux and technomic 
> for height but want the shortest extension possible.  The technomic comes 
> in 50 cm but isn't cold forged.  The Tallux is cold forged but I only see 
> it in 7 cm on rivbike.  So, is 7 cm the shortest Tallux extension?  Thanks 
> in advance.

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