[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

[Joe Bernard]

Bob, I have a pair somewhere I used maybe twice. I quickly discovered I'm too 
lazy to put gloves over gloves, so I just use those gardening-type things Riv 
sells for colder weather. I'll see if I can find them. 

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[RBW] wheel build suggestions

[Ian A]

It would be a good idea to check the alignment of the rear triangle of the 
frame and dropouts. It's likey the wheel took the brunt of the impact and the 
frame is fine, but worth checking anyway. 

I was rear ended once at high speed. The rear wheel collapsed and I think acted 
as a crumple zone. Had to have the rear triangle realigned. Easy enough to 
check with the Sheldon Brown string method.

IanA

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

[Bob B]

May be the only one but... MUSA Mitts!! Anyone got a NOS pair gathering dust PM 
me. My trust much-loved pair is wearing thin!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Lum Gim Fong]

Patrick. More detail needed please:

What between the fishnet and sweater?
How do you keep wind from penetrating layers?
What about pants layers and  sox?

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

[Doug H.]

Carbon frames with race geometry. Skinny tires. Lycra. Made in China 
accessories. NOT!

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

[Joe Bernard]

Six years later! 

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[RBW] FS: Crust and Compass Bars; VO Crank

[Daniel Jackson]

*Compass* Randonneur Bar, 25.4, 440. Tape residue, otherwise beautiful. 
$105 shipped

*Crust X Poppi* Towel Rack Bar - the Original WHATBAR. 7075 Al. New in 
package. 666mm. $120 shipped

*Velo Orange* Grand Cru 50.4 BCD Crankset 46/30 175mm arms. New in box. 
$160 shipped

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Things I wish Rivendell still sold..

[bo richardson]

i certainly miss my bridgestone jersey. Jack kimmes at Kulshan Cycles pushed me 
hard to buy one when they were on sale. Bless his heart.

But the other things I miss more than anything were the Riv/ibex no fly 
underpants. i would buy all of them i could afford today.

The reason Toyo is so highly valued is Grant made it such a strong case for 
them back in the day. We still believe him.
I have two, my ram and my Atlantis. love them both.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dirt drop setup, brake/shifter bits

[Drw]

Final drop before eBay

Portola/dd stem-90$ shipped 

Tubus cargo rack 70$ shipped 



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[RBW] No love for the Albastache?

[Ray Varella]

I had the original mustache bars on a commuter with barend shifters. 
I really liked that combo for riding in traffic. Braking was super strong and 
quickly accessible and shifting required almost no loss of attentiveness. 
Great attributes for riding in traffic. 
I have a pair of Albastache bars I’ll be trying soon. 
The new shape addresses the issues I had with the originals that prevented me 
from liking them on rides of 50 miles or more. 

Ray 

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[RBW] Re: Albastache Conversion--first ride review

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not that you California coast lot will need this feature of the Moustache II, 
but I was struck again by how well it works in brake (curve) position on 
singletrack with mittens on. The transition from full grip to brake grip is 
smooth and easy, whether it’s thin mitts, heavy boiled wool, or both at once 
with chopper mitts on top.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] FS Grey Medium Sackville Shopsack

[David Wadstrup]

It’s yours!  Thank you!  You can PayPal me at dwadst...@gmail.com 
.  Don’t forget to include your shipping address. 

Best,

David

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[RBW] FS Grey Medium Sackville Shopsack

[Timothy Hurley]

I’ll take it if it’s still available. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: 68cm Rambouillet

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Just curious who landed this big boy.  Created a lot of interest and resulted 
in the shifting of several big bikes across the country between several 
interested parties!  

Ryan “WTB 68cm Orangesicle Ram” Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] FS: Brompton M3L w/upgrades & C Bag

[Joe Bernard]

Yep, got it. That's pretty!

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Re: [RBW] FS: Brompton M3L w/upgrades & C Bag

[Elton Pope-Lance]

I think/hope the link is fixed now.

Try https://photos.app.goo.gl/ERzH52EAr5ULnq9MA

Elton Pope-Lance
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> I'm getting an error when opening the link. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Curtis McKenzie]

Dear Patrick,

I can say with the upmost conviction that the world is a better place
thanks to you sharing your wonderful pictures.

May peace surround you,

Curtis

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:37 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

> Oh dear, Curtis! That’s a lot of pressure. Grin. With it that actively
> snowing I barely got the camera to work for a selfie, so I’m afraid they’ll
> have to do. Grin. One up top (rocks in the background) before I put my
> sweater on, one almost home, sweater in full use. Had I known the world
> would be a better place with a riding photo, I’d’ve found a way! Sorry
> about that. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 12:30:03 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
> > Dear Patrick,
> >
> >
> > The world would be a better place if you could share picture of your
> ride in the snow.
> >
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> > Curtis "in San Diego hoping we do not catch fire"
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 10:52 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote:
> > I use a wool fishnet longjohn top base layer. With it, I then can
> insulate with any fabric, including cotton flanel. It’s highly effective at
> moisture management and that is key to staying warm when aerobic activity
> is involved, especially when stops happen and you cool down. You can test
> the system with Wiggy’s for $38 (not skin friendly nylon, but his video
> also explains why fishnet baselayer is superior)
> https://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/fishnet-long-underwear/, or the
> wool version is Brynje https://www.brynjeusa.com.
> >
> >
> >
> > I just got back from a 3.5 hour ride, including an hour plus coffee and
> pipe at the top, with temps 15˚F down low and about 5˚F up top, with 1,300
> feet climbing in 8 miles. Which is to say if I’m dressed to be warm, I’m
> sweating and I want moisture to easily escape. With this system, it does.
> My ventile jacket stayed in reserve, and I put my boiled wool sweater on
> for the time at the top and the ride home. It snowed about 6” total from
> start of the ride to returning home. Warm and cozy the whole ride, and
> stop, and inner layers were dry when I took them off at home (I had to
> shake the crusted snow off my hat and sweater.).
> >
> >
> >
> > With abandon,
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
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[RBW] WTB: rat traps pass tires

[Conway Bennett]

I've seen them come and go but never thought they'd fit my xo-3.  I was looking 
into Naches passes and kept reading that the actual width of compass tires is a 
few mm under what they're listed as, especially when running tubes.  If I buy 
used and they don't work I'll just put 'em back on the grey market for what I 
bought 'em for.  If anyone wants to trade I have WTB Byways that retail for the 
same.  Thanks in advance.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Curtis McKenzie]

Dear Patrick,

The world would be a better place if you could share picture of your ride
in the snow.

Thank you,

Curtis "in San Diego hoping we do not catch fire"

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 10:52 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

> I use a wool fishnet longjohn top base layer. With it, I then can insulate
> with any fabric, including cotton flanel. It’s highly effective at moisture
> management and that is key to staying warm when aerobic activity is
> involved, especially when stops happen and you cool down. You can test the
> system with Wiggy’s for $38 (not skin friendly nylon, but his video also
> explains why fishnet baselayer is superior)
> https://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/fishnet-long-underwear/, or the
> wool version is Brynje https://www.brynjeusa.com.
>
> I just got back from a 3.5 hour ride, including an hour plus coffee and
> pipe at the top, with temps 15˚F down low and about 5˚F up top, with 1,300
> feet climbing in 8 miles. Which is to say if I’m dressed to be warm, I’m
> sweating and I want moisture to easily escape. With this system, it does.
> My ventile jacket stayed in reserve, and I put my boiled wool sweater on
> for the time at the top and the ride home. It snowed about 6” total from
> start of the ride to returning home. Warm and cozy the whole ride, and
> stop, and inner layers were dry when I took them off at home (I had to
> shake the crusted snow off my hat and sweater.).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I use a wool fishnet longjohn top base layer. With it, I then can insulate with 
any fabric, including cotton flanel. It’s highly effective at moisture 
management and that is key to staying warm when aerobic activity is involved, 
especially when stops happen and you cool down. You can test the system with 
Wiggy’s for $38 (not skin friendly nylon, but his video also explains why 
fishnet baselayer is superior) 
https://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/fishnet-long-underwear/, or the wool 
version is Brynje https://www.brynjeusa.com.

I just got back from a 3.5 hour ride, including an hour plus coffee and pipe at 
the top, with temps 15˚F down low and about 5˚F up top, with 1,300 feet 
climbing in 8 miles. Which is to say if I’m dressed to be warm, I’m sweating 
and I want moisture to easily escape. With this system, it does. My ventile 
jacket stayed in reserve, and I put my boiled wool sweater on for the time at 
the top and the ride home. It snowed about 6” total from start of the ride to 
returning home. Warm and cozy the whole ride, and stop, and inner layers were 
dry when I took them off at home (I had to shake the crusted snow off my hat 
and sweater.). 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FS: Brompton M3L w/upgrades & C Bag

[Joe Bernard]

I'm getting an error when opening the link. 

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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[EasyRider]

Thanks for the suggestion, Will. The vest version of the liner jacket is 
appealing to me. I would prefer a standup collar but as you point out, a neck 
gaiter serves the purpose. 

Pete
Arlington, VA

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[RBW] FS: Brompton M3L w/upgrades & C Bag

[Elton Pope-Lance]

My 2016 Brompton M3L needs a new home.  I find that I don't need two!

The details:

- Less than 50 miles total.  The bike is like new (truly!) except for a small 
scuff on top of rear mudguard (see photos)
- Brooks B17S saddle
- Ergon cork grips
- Standard length seat post
- 3 speed gearing - standard ratio
- Battery powered tail light
- Mounting block and matching Lagoon Blue C-Bag included
- Standard Brompton Kevlar tires

Photos are at 
https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipPv-o2JKVEVbCFCyGglVcQpcH4Wn_Qn-3IyF789

$1500 includes ConUS shipping via Bikeflights.  Paypal preferred (Friends & 
family, please) - other options considered.

Please respond off-list if interested.

Elton Pope-Lance
Vero Beach, FL



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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Will]

I'd recommend going with a Wiggy's long sleeve liner jacket. It's 
inexpensive, very easy to wash and dry, and has knit cuffs which really 
facilitate wearing gloves. I use mine with a neck gaiter (available 
everywhere) and a wind-resistant super light shell. I  live in Wisconsin, 
so we tend to be very practical about cool/cold weather gear. Being able to 
wash something frequently is a key feature. Going with a neck gaiter works 
well since it keeps whisker wear off of the liner. You want to wear it over 
a woven shirt, not a knit shirt. Woven material moves moisture better.  
Wiggy's insulation is designed to move moisture. So with the woven base 
layer, you are warn and ===> DRY.  

https://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/liner-jacket/

Rivendell content... I discovered Wiggy's through the Riv website. They 
recommended the summer weight sleeping bag for S240s and used to sell them.
You can read that here at bottom of link:

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/camping-vs-touring



On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 6:46:18 PM UTC-6, EasyRider wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a half or quarter zip merino pullover and could use some 
> recs, especially with regard to weight/warmth.
>
> For the past several winters daily commutes (15 miles round trip, most 
> days the temp is with 10 degrees of freezing) I've been wearing a very 
> light poly-merino blend pullovers, a cheapo poly half zip pullover over 
> that (a general all purpose "jogging" and whatnot), and a vest or 
> windbreaker over that. That's about right warmth for these parts. But all 
> those poly baselayers means a lot of laundry because it picks up a stink, 
> and quick. I'd like to get one high quality merino baselayer and wash once 
> a week. But, I'm uncertain what the right weight to get is.
>
> I THINK I want something "midweight" but I'm not sure what that means in 
> terms of spec or labeling to look for. I want something I could wear alone 
> under a fleece vest most days, and maybe add a packable windbreaker over 
> top, or a softshell jacket on very cold days. The other requirement is a 
> zip up collar, not a crew neck.
>
> I checked Riv for options and didn't see any, so what would you recommend?
>
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Albastache Conversion--first ride review

[RichS]

Bill,

Yes, without a doubt!  "...I had completely stopped thinking about the bike 
or the new cockpit. It had disappeared. That's about as much as I can ask 
for from equipment." 

It seems the Albastache is getting quite a bit of love lately. The 
enthusiastic description of your initial experience; Grant's piece about it 
in the October 24 Blahg; and Rich Lesnik's spectacular burgundy Roadeo on a 
recent Instagram post. Hmmm, maybe an uptick in Albastache sales for Riv?
Many times I've been tempted but for now am content with the other 
Alba(tross).

Best,
Rich in ATL

 

On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 9:54:27 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I forgot the best part of my Albastache ride:  one long climb was up Old 
> Tunnel Road above Oakland. 28 years ago that whole canyon burned in what 
> was called the Oakland Firestorm. As I was contemplating the changes that 
> had occurred in the 30 years I’d done this climb. There’s the new house 
> built to look like a saxophone. There’s the spot where a Specialized 
> Stumpjumper melted in the fire while locked to a railing. Etcetera. 
>
> My mind wandered as I thought about fire policy, climate change and 
> various veins of scientific thought as well as some technical topics I 
> would need to discuss with my coworkers once I got to the office. It’s one 
> of the many reasons I enjoy cycling, particularly uphill and solo. It’s an 
> all too rare opportunity to daydream and meditate. As I crested the climb 
> and reached to shift to the big ring I realized that I had completely 
> stopped thinking about the bike or the new cockpit. It had ‘disappeared’. 
> That’s about as much as I can ask for from equipment. 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito, Ca

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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[G.E.]

I have been a big fan of Ibex for a number of years. As stated by another, 
they are no longer in business, however, you can often find lightly used 
(or sometimes, even new) items on eBay. This time of year, I have at least 
1 piece of Ibex on my body on any given day. Their pieces have lasted 
several years for me. I also have Smartwool pieces, and although they tend 
to be a little softer, Ibex still wins for me. I've also bought from Minus 
33 (I have some leggings from them that I've owned for two winters and 
they're still in good shape, having worn them nearly every day for about 
3-4 months out of the year). There are other brands, like Voormi you could 
look to (though I've never purchased from them, so I'm just putting it out 
there as a suggestion to try) or Woolx.
>
>
As far as which weight to get, that (at least to me) can be very personal. 
I have lightweight wool and midweight and tend to wear pieces alone and 
layered, depending on the conditions and temperatures for the day. Today, 
it's in the low 20s F here and it's snowing, so I'll be wearing multiple 
layers outside to keep warm, with a jacket over the top.  I have found that 
the lighter weight pieces tend to get holes quicker, especially if they are 
pieces I'm harder on.

I sweat quite a bit in my wool when engaged in activities and if I hang it 
up and let the wool air out, I can wear the pieces multiple times before 
washing them. My husband, however, washes his pieces nearly every time he 
wears them, so perhaps this is just personal preference or amount of sweat 
produced by individual bodies. As has been pointed out, the wool will feel 
different though after wearing it.

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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Garth]

I can only speak for my own experience, and that is while it sounds great 
in theory "wool doesn't stink so I don't have to wash it as often"   
while it may not smell like a synthetic gone afoul , it does not mean that 
it feels "clean" or very good the next day after sweating in it.  I've 
found no matter what the material is after sweating in it I  prefer not to 
wear it again until washed.  I wash synthetics daily in a bucket and drip 
dry in the bathroom in winter or outside in summer. It takes about 5-10 
minutes . I have synthetics decades old that have no odd odors.  

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Re: [RBW] Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Steven Sweedler]

Since the demise of Ibex and especially their fall sale, I have been
enjoying   -33   as long as you like the color black, their long underwear
bottoms are excellent, cycled in them yesterday.   Steve

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:38 AM EasyRider  wrote:

> Thanks all. It sounds like the 150 weight might be what I want.
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[RBW] Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[EasyRider]

Thanks all. It sounds like the 150 weight might be what I want.

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[RBW] Re: Rust proof question

[Steve Butcher]

Hi Andrew,
 
I've used Frame Saver in both fully built bicycles and, on a few occasions, 
I've used J.P. Weigle's Frame Saver on bare frame sets.  Also, I've had a 
couple of bikes built up at bike shops with the Frame Saver treatment 
applied by the bike mechanic.  I've not encountered any problems going 
either route, though I'd echo Eric's comments on better accessibility to 
all tubes starting with the bare frame set.  Also, clean-up from any 
dripping or over-spray might be easier with the bare frame set.  WD-40 is 
excellent as a clean up substance.   Now as far as to the effectiveness of 
Frame Saver; I tend to be a fair weather bicycler and don't ride in the 
winter once the D.O.T. starts salting the roads.  That said, I don't feel I 
need to strip frames down to see how things look inside; but when I've 
pulled the seat posts, I've not noticed any rust.  That said, Mr. Weigle's 
bikes probably have seen their fair share of rain and winter due to his New 
England location.  Since this product has been around for quite a long 
time, I'd say it has been thoroughly tested.  (Not a payed endorsement!).  

Steve Butcher 

On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 4:38:27 PM UTC-6, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> Maybe a dumb question...
> Is it a terrible idea to spray some rustproofing material into a fully 
> built bike or should it be done on a bare frame?  Are there any methods or 
> products that folks find to be best?  

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[RBW] Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Karl]

Haven’t looked at the new Smartwool 250 series, yet they started blending nylon 
into their 150 series (sigh) I have been happy with the stuff Rivendell sells 
or REI has some nice all merino tops. 

Karl (Will be wearing wool today)
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[ascpgh]

Think about the weight of an average cotton T-shirt (not a high-end pima 
undershirt)  for comparison. I think most reputable companies may be 
heavier than that in order to have enough material to support the 
construction necessary for the zipper. Been happy with Smartwool.

I am using a MUSA from Rivendell merino top this week. I try not to dress 
so warmly that I get sweaty. The condensation that collects due to the 
cooling of my shell layer going through the cold air isn't the source of 
much stink, so a week is well within taste. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, November 10, 2018 at 7:46:18 PM UTC-5, EasyRider wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a half or quarter zip merino pullover and could use some 
> recs, especially with regard to weight/warmth.
>
> For the past several winters daily commutes (15 miles round trip, most 
> days the temp is with 10 degrees of freezing) I've been wearing a very 
> light poly-merino blend pullovers, a cheapo poly half zip pullover over 
> that (a general all purpose "jogging" and whatnot), and a vest or 
> windbreaker over that. That's about right warmth for these parts. But all 
> those poly baselayers means a lot of laundry because it picks up a stink, 
> and quick. I'd like to get one high quality merino baselayer and wash once 
> a week. But, I'm uncertain what the right weight to get is.
>
> I THINK I want something "midweight" but I'm not sure what that means in 
> terms of spec or labeling to look for. I want something I could wear alone 
> under a fleece vest most days, and maybe add a packable windbreaker over 
> top, or a softshell jacket on very cold days. The other requirement is a 
> zip up collar, not a crew neck.
>
> I checked Riv for options and didn't see any, so what would you recommend?
>
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
>
>

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