[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[Kowalsky Mist]

Thanks Phil!

Yeah, my rim is 20mm on the inside and 27mm on the outside and the tire 
measures 50mm. One SV14 blew at around 48 psi, one survived ;) A Michelin 
"tank" tube replaced the other. 
Unfortunately one tire is a complete banana, very poorly crafted, maybe by an 
intern or so. Which gives me also the impression quality control doesn't exist 
there. The black center tread is off b about 4 mm on several spots where it's 
suppose to connect with the sidewall. All the spots where it doesn't make it to 
the sidewall are paper thin, plus the corners of tread is about 1mm thinner 
there. Fortunately it looks like I will get a replacement, time consuming but 
nonetheless uncomplicated so far, lets see.

Ride wise I'm quite surprised not so positive for now. At 25/30 PSI it's not as 
plush as I expected. Not sure if my Gauge on the Turbo Morph is accurate, 
didn't compare it yet. According to that pump my Panaracer Ribmos 1.75 where at 
18/22 PSI which is way under their recommended PSI, but they where great that 
way.

Riding the RTP at 22/26 at the moment, feels better ...but also not 
recommneded, but the only real approvement that way. 

I was mostly surprised about the different handling/stearing with these tires. 
On one side you feel like riding a big boat or an old Cadillac, BUT the 
stearing is realy agile, in a weird way. The tire, unless holding the steerer 
real stable on straight, the front turns imediatelly and radically, this 
multiplies with stuff on your front rack. Did not get used to it yet. I don't 
get the physics why, but its a lot more work for the arms and wrists.

Well, we'll see... as many say, you got to find your sweet spot on the pressure 
and for now I don't ride it with the little shaky banana tire on the front.

Cheers,
K


Am Dienstag, 11. Dezember 2018 15:17:25 UTC+1 schrieb phil k:
> The tires are made by Panaracer, and these tires are made by hand - which may 
> explain why there is a slight difference in weight, yet crafted very 
> carefully.
> 
> 
> The RTPs are some of my favorite tires, if only they made more bikes that fit 
> them. I would get the SC 14s, as the tires on 23mm outside width rims measure 
> around 50mm.
> 
> 
> -Phil
> Arlington, VA
> 
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 7:39:39 PM UTC-5, Kowalsky wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> 
> I feel a bit crazy as I just received a pair of these... well, it's my little 
> Christmas presi?
> 
> 
> Of
>  course I had to inspect them first and a few questions came up that I 
> did not find on my wild search in the net and I was wondering if there 
> are some who'd know a bit more?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - I was wondering how to read the manufacturing date (e.g. N15 on 
> the left, 2 circles 12 dots, 1 circle 10 dots and a S1 on the far 
> right)?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - The Rat Trap Pass is recommended with a Schwalbe SV13. At the 
> moment I have only the SV14 here and before buying those SV13, I was 
> curious for the reason (minimal better puncture resistance, better roll 
> off, little stiffer tire...etc)? I wrote to Compass about this a few days 
> ago, but didn't hear back yet.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - And a silly one at last: One tire came in at 452gr, the other 
> with 20gr more at 472gr. Not too nice, but not too crazy I guess. Still 
> wondering where/how these extra 5% add up (I hope
>  not on a single spot, or cause unevenness)?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Am Freitag, 19. August 2016 01:16:59 UTC+2 schrieb Patch T:
> They've been out for just over a year now, yeah? More? 
> 
> 
> Who has been riding them extensively, and can share some solid feedback? 
> Where and how do you ride them? On what? With whom? And why?!?!
> 
> 
> I'm interested in getting the Standards, but would like to read about the 
> Extralights, too.
> 
> 
> (If there's already the same thread, apologies, I searched but couldn't find 
> it)
> 
> 
> Love,
> Patch

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Re: [RBW] HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Procopius]

I’d be in. Great idea. 

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Justin, Oakland]

Get a Hite Rite or a cruiser. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[esoterica etc]

Tom,

Whoa! What an amazing organization and a fantastic idea! I’m game to donate 
$75, now all we need is 24 more. C’mon y’all, who else is feeling like 
spreading some holiday love to a wonderful non-profit that gives the magic of 
cycling to those who would otherwise never be able to do the thing that brings 
so much joy to all of us? Whaddya say folks, let’s do it! 

~Mark


> On Dec 11, 2018, at 22:02, tc  wrote:
> 
> Riv says they need at least 20 people to commit to buying a Hubbuh before 
> they'll be able to justify an order.  25 committed orders would be even 
> better.  They're close; but only 17 folks have committed.
> 
> I can't justify one.  However -- ever hear of the Blind Tandem Cycling 
> Association?  Wow...just wow.
> 
> How cool would it be for us, as a group, to pool funds enough to add 1 to the 
> 17 already committed, and donate it to this wonderful organization?  Hubbuh's 
> are $1875 for F/F/H/BB.  So, if 25 people put in $75
> 
> Anyway, just one way to help a great org, and also help some fellow Rivsters 
> who missed out on the 1st run.  If there is enough interest maybe Riv could 
> set up a way on rivbike.com (similar to the Hail Mary last year) to accept 
> funds for this.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
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[RBW] HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[William!]

I’d throw down for this.

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[RonaTD]

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-6, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
> Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" 
> position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little
>

It's all about bottom bracket height and seat tube angle. If you're on a 
"mountain bike" or a "cyclocross bike", fugettaboutit unless you drop your 
seat way too low. If you really want to put a foot down flat, staying on 
the saddle, and not lean too far, you'll need a bottom bracket that is 
pretty low. It's one of my key criteria for a commuting bike, so that 
stoplights are easy to manage. Pedal strikes then become a potential 
hazard, but I think I've hit a pedal maybe three times in the last decade, 
all turning and going over a bit of a bump at the same time. On my 
preferred commuting bikes, I can easily put one foot flat or both feet on 
the toes.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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[RBW] HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[tc]

Riv says they need at least 20 people to commit to buying a Hubbuh before 
they'll be able to justify an order.  25 committed orders would be even 
better.  They're close; but only 17 folks have committed.

I can't justify one.  However -- ever hear of the Blind Tandem Cycling 
Association ?  Wow...just wow.

How cool would it be for us, as a group, to pool funds enough to add 1 to 
the 17 already committed, and donate it to this wonderful organization?  
Hubbuh's are $1875 for F/F/H/BB.  So, if 25 people put in $75

Anyway, just one way to help a great org, and also help some fellow 
Rivsters who missed out on the 1st run.  If there is enough interest maybe 
Riv could set up a way on rivbike.com (similar to the Hail Mary last year) 
to accept funds for this.

Tom




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[RBW] WTB or Trade: Rear wheel for Roadini

[lambbo]

A few months ago Patrick Shea sold me an original SON hub on a 32 spoke mavic 
open pro ceramic rim, 32 spoke...it was such a great deal!  

BUT, it looks and feels very very funny on my Roadini, given that the rear 
wheel is a lightweight low-spoke Mavic Aksium (which also feels too flexy for 
my 220lbs). 

SO, I'm looking for a 32 (or 36) spoke rear wheel with decent hub 130mm 
spacing,  9, 10, or 11 speed, 23mm wide or wider preferable.  Open Pro ceramic 
would be great to match, but I'm open to anything. 

Not looking to spend a great deal of money, but I do want something reliable.   

WILLING TO TRADE both Mavic Aksium wheels, which are black, true, and 
lightweight, for one great rear wheel. 

Thank you Rivbunch!

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[RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Kainalu V.]

I often stop in the saddle using my foot as a prop, it's extended but not on 
point. My saddle is 12-13cm below my pbh, which feels right to me. Some advice 
that may or may not be advisable- 
1. Have huge pedal pushers, my size 16 foot makes a good kickstand.
2. Use a longer crank. That'll get your optimized pedal stroke that much closer 
to the ground.
3. Lean, slightly 
4, Forget the whole prop thing, it's a crutch, master track stands.

-Kai
BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Mark Anderson]

On safety bikes like my Riv, I keep my saddle too high to put a foot down 
on without dismounting.  This is not due to any fantasy-racer tendencies I 
may or may not have, but because I would be uncomfortable while riding.  My 
previously broken knee in particular would complain about putting the 
saddle too low.  It's no shrinking violet.

OTOH, I have of late lowered my saddle a bit and just put my footsies a bit 
further forward on the pedals and been happy, but I cannot nearly flat-foot 
at a stop while in the saddle, but I don't mind that.  You could, I 
presume, easily experiment and find out whether you would be happy with a 
much lower saddle by much-lowering your saddle.  If it sucks, you'll know. 
 I have discussed this very matter with a few friends over the years who 
simply don't understand why anyone would put their saddle too high to 
flat-foot a stop.  They're really happy in their biking lives.  Maybe you 
would be too if you emulated them. However, none of them (and maybe 
(hopefully) not you) have broken a knee.  I cannot emulate them happily. 
 So it goes.

I also have had a couple of recumbents, and one of the great, huge, 
wonderful advantages of them is the ability to set the seat (not saddle) 
for nicely extended pedaling legs, while still being able to put a flipper 
down at a (possibly beer-impulse-related) stop without leaving said seat. 
 It's pretty great.  Interactions with heavy traffic improve greatly 
without the delay of getting up on the saddle.  I appreciate your

In short, I suggest you just try it and pay attention to your body.  If a 
low saddle hurts, stop using a low saddle.  If you want to, maybe try out a 
recumbent to achieve your goal.  If it doesn't hurt, have a great time and 
enjoy the ride.   Even my crappy, (audibly) crunchy knees let me lower my 
saddle somewhat. Or hell, just keep your saddle high and enjoy the ride. 

--
Mark Anderson in Chicago

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-6, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
> Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" 
> position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not 
> have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have 
> an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly 
> bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my 
> foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when 
> I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the 
> expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or 
> unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some 
> racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me 
> and embrace the low-down. 
>
> So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your 
> foot down? 
>
> Marty
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[RBW] Re: A Tale of Two Rivs..65cm Waterford Homer Hilsen FS

[Reid Echols]

Took a few more pictures in its present setup, with fenders and steilacoom pass 
tires from the artist formerly known as Compass. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrQ_X_iF-Ww/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet=14cg490xnf96p

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Christopher Cote]

Sorry, I left a lot of details out of the build. Let's see if I can 
remember it all without having to go out to the garage.

Nitto Noodle Bars and Technomic stem
Tektro brake levers (the ones for long pull V-brakes)
Maroon Neubaum's tape
Shimano Dura-Ace 9spd bar end shifters
The fork is a Waterford-build unit with regular oval blades. My first 
attempt at getting rid of the brake shudder
Soma Supple Vitesse tires in 700x38mm
Sugino triple cranks - unknown model off a mid-80s UJB, 48/38/24 rings
Shimano 600 "Arabesque" front derailleur
Shimano XT rear derailleur
Shimano Deore V-brakes with Koolstop salmon pads (the best!)
9 speed cassette, 11-34, I think
SKS fenders, 50mm, I think.
Nitto seat post (not pictured)
WTB Pure-V saddle (not pictured)
MKS RMX pedals
Blackburn stainless steel water bottle cages
Blackburn frame pump
Nitto M12 front rack
Acorn tall rando bag
Velo Orange "decaleur"


Chris



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:51:30 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> Nice build, Chris! What are those tires? Very impressive on this bike--and 
> I like the Deore V-brakes idea; I might try that.  Tom
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:35 PM Christopher Cote  > wrote:
>
>> Mine is set up with a mix of Shimano components, 9 speed indexed with 
>> bar-end shifters. I recently swapped the cantilever brakes out for Deore 
>> V-brakes. The braking performance was immensely improved. I could never get 
>> rid of brake shudder in the fork with cantilevers. Here's a slightly 
>> outdated pic. I've changed the seatpost and saddle since then.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:13:29 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris, what's your set-up on the Heron?  I agree; like anything Riv, you 
>>> can ask so many things of this bike and one thing you always get is the joy 
>>> of riding it.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 6:36 PM Christopher Cote  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have the exact same bike, it is a really wonderful, underrated 
 machine. I don't ride mine enough, and think about selling it every now 
 and 
 then, but I take it for a ride and all thoughts of parting with it 
 evaporate. It's 90% the same as a 58cm Atlantis at a fraction of the cost. 
 Whoever snaps this up is getting a steal!

 Chris


 On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> [image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]
>
> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron 
> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals 
> and 
> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm 
> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser 
> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for 
> weekend 
> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed 
> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; 
> Suntour 
> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; 
> Sugino 
> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake 
> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or 
> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and 
> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please 
> see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots 
> of 
> information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and 
> Ted 
> Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack 
> with 
> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  
> $795 
> + shipping & insurance
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[RBW] Re: Cool bike shops in Boston?

[Timothy Hurley]

This is all great information. I’ll report back in my travels.


Thanks,
T.J.

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Chev?

[lambbo]

:) Adam, point taken - not looking to increase clearance (or even stopping 
power, my paul center pulls are great) - just have a bent fork that pushes the 
centerpull pads too far up, so I figure why not fix the problem with a fun 
solution. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 57-59cm All Rounder Frame

[Kevin Lindsey]

I've never been there, but probably should just to see in person what he 
has in his collection.  I understand that he has loads of bikes on hand.
All the best,
Kevin


On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:12:13 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Yeah, I agree. I checked with him in 2011 so he's had it for at least that 
> long. Strange way to run a bike shop. Have you been there? Does he have a 
> big warehouse to store all those bikes? I envision something like I see on 
> American Pickers.
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 6:24:52 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>>
>> Jim -
>> As it happens, Mt. Airy Bikes is only about an hour from my house and 
>> I've been in touch with the owner more than once about that bike.  He 
>> doesn't seem anxious to sell it, despite the fact that it's been in his 
>> shop for several years.  At any rate, in my humble opinion, he's either 
>> charging too much for it or I'm not making enough money, 'cause it seems 
>> excessively expensive.
>> All the best,
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 8:27:01 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
>>>
>>> This one has been at Mt Airy Bikes for a long time: 
>>> http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804
>>>
>>> Pretty high asking price last time I checked, which was 2011.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> walnut creek, ca
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 1:05:41 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 A bit of a long shot here, but does anyone happen to have a 57 or 59cm 
 All Rounder frame that's looking for a new home?  If so, please PM me and 
 let's chat.

 Kevin Lindsey
 Alexandria, VA

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Tom Goodmann]

Nice build, Chris! What are those tires? Very impressive on this bike--and
I like the Deore V-brakes idea; I might try that.  Tom

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:35 PM Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mine is set up with a mix of Shimano components, 9 speed indexed with
> bar-end shifters. I recently swapped the cantilever brakes out for Deore
> V-brakes. The braking performance was immensely improved. I could never get
> rid of brake shudder in the fork with cantilevers. Here's a slightly
> outdated pic. I've changed the seatpost and saddle since then.
>
> 
>
>
> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:13:29 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>
>> Chris, what's your set-up on the Heron?  I agree; like anything Riv, you
>> can ask so many things of this bike and one thing you always get is the joy
>> of riding it.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 6:36 PM Christopher Cote 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have the exact same bike, it is a really wonderful, underrated
>>> machine. I don't ride mine enough, and think about selling it every now and
>>> then, but I take it for a ride and all thoughts of parting with it
>>> evaporate. It's 90% the same as a 58cm Atlantis at a fraction of the cost.
>>> Whoever snaps this up is getting a steal!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:

 [image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]

 I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron
 Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and
 saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm
 tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser
 (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend
 rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed
 cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour
 front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino
 crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake
 levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or
 dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and
 underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please
 see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots of
 information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted
 Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack with
 care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  $795
 + shipping & insurance

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Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Tim Gavin]

Here's a non-Rivendellian solution:  a dropper seatpost.

They're popular with MTB types in order to lower the seat while
aggressively riding (in the standing position) and quickly raise it back
once you want to sit down.

You could lower the seat before you stop, and raise it again when you start
going.

However, they aren't cheap.  They're kind of a pain to set up (routing the
control cable).  And the smallest size is 27.2 (26.8 and you're out of
luck).



I put a KS Lev dropper on my new MTB build (steel frame All-City Electric
Queen, modern components) and I'm still getting the hang of when to use it
(and why).

But I agree wholeheartedly with Grant et al that proper (read, high) saddle
height is very important.  I've tried to sit and ride after dropping the
saddle an inch or so, and pedaling just feels so wrong.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:21 PM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
martinpgie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle"
> position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not
> have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have
> an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly
> bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my
> foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when
> I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the
> expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or
> unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some
> racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me
> and embrace the low-down.
>
> So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your
> foot down?
>
> Marty
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[RBW] Re: Did you have a 2018 cycling goal? Did you achieve it?

[Christopher Cote]

I had pretty modest goals for 2018. The only quantitative goal was to ride 
enough at Kindgom Trails in Vermont enough to justify the season pass that 
I purchased, and I met that goal. Other than that it was to ride as much as 
possible and enjoy every ride. I think I pretty much met that goal as well.

For 2019 my goal is to get back to riding as much as I did in 2018. I had 
knee surgery at the end of October and it will be several months before I'm 
anything close to normal. I'm spending a lot of time on the trainer indoors 
this winter, hoping to be able to hit the trails in the spring.

Chris



On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 5:49:05 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Steve Palincsar shared some info about himself that I think is awesome.  
> Unfortunately that great info was in a thread that was otherwise generally 
> icky.  I'm breaking out the inspiring nugget out.  Specifically, Steve said:
>
> "I and many, if not most, of the folks I ride with are well over 70"
> "2018 was a bad year weather-wise, and my mileage is way off from last 
> year; instead of  just missing 11,000 as was the case in 2017, I think I'm 
> going to finish 2018 with only 9,000.  "
>
> Regardless of one's opinion about "Just Ride", septugenarian cyclists 
> putting down 10,000 mile years is freaking fantastic in my book. Steve is, 
> I think, very close to my father's age (if my father was still alive).  I 
> hope to be laying down the big mileage of a Steve Palincsar when I'm in the 
> neighborhood of 75.  2018 is already my biggest mileage year ever.  I've 
> got a puncher's chance at reaching 10,000km by year's end.  I turn 50 in a 
> couple months, and I still work full-time and am still raising two 
> teenagers, so I'm anticipating major gains in the free-time department as 
> retirement approaches.  My goal was to put down my first ever documented 
> 5000 mile year, and I've done that.  I've got a little more than 1000 miles 
> to go to reach 10,000km.  I also have wanted to do a half-million feet of 
> climbing in a calendar year.  That won't happen for me in 2018, but I'm 
> about to hot 400,000 feet for the first time.
>
> What 2018 cycling goals did you set and achieve (or not-achieve)?  What 
> goals will you place for 2019?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 59 Waterford/Riv Heron Touring complete bike

[Christopher Cote]

Mine is set up with a mix of Shimano components, 9 speed indexed with 
bar-end shifters. I recently swapped the cantilever brakes out for Deore 
V-brakes. The braking performance was immensely improved. I could never get 
rid of brake shudder in the fork with cantilevers. Here's a slightly 
outdated pic. I've changed the seatpost and saddle since then.




On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 7:13:29 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
> Chris, what's your set-up on the Heron?  I agree; like anything Riv, you 
> can ask so many things of this bike and one thing you always get is the joy 
> of riding it.
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 6:36 PM Christopher Cote  > wrote:
>
>> I have the exact same bike, it is a really wonderful, underrated machine. 
>> I don't ride mine enough, and think about selling it every now and then, 
>> but I take it for a ride and all thoughts of parting with it evaporate. 
>> It's 90% the same as a 58cm Atlantis at a fraction of the cost. Whoever 
>> snaps this up is getting a steal!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote:
>>>
>>> [image: Heron Touring 1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I’m selling a silver (or pewter) Waterford Precision Cycles-made Heron 
>>> Touring bike in very good condition, including everything except pedals and 
>>> saddle.  It offers a stable ride with OS downtube, taking up to a 35mm 
>>> tire.  I have used the bike as a commuter, and for an MS 150 fundraiser 
>>> (winning laughter from all the carbon fiber riders), as well as for weekend 
>>> rides.  I’ve replaced the rear wheel bearing cartridges and 7-speed 
>>> cassette; the rims are Sun CR18s with 32mm Panaracer Pasela tires; Suntour 
>>> front derailleur; Sachs Centura rear with Shimano bar-end shifters; Sugino 
>>> crank (50/38/26); Shimano cantilever brakes with Suntour Cyclone brake 
>>> levers on Nitto Randonneur bars.  The frame is clean, with no dents or 
>>> dings; there are some paint touch-ups on rear stays (chain suck) and 
>>> underside from the previous owner; I rate its appearance at 8.5+.  Please 
>>> see photos; several more on request.  There are web pages that give lots of 
>>> information about this joint project between Rivendell, Waterford, and Ted 
>>> Durant or, later, Todd Kuzma; happy to share them via a PM.  I’ll pack with 
>>> care, and ship via BikeFlights to save costs for any potential buyer.  $795 
>>> + shipping & insurance
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[CMR]

I think Rivendell and Grant are actually pretty forward about raising the 
seat to the proper height. My first time at Rivendell Grant spent 15 
minutes helping me get a proper height on my Mercian, raising it 2-3 
centimeters. So not so much a Racer thing as just a fact of riding bikes, 
you can't ride comfortably and still put your foot down t easily. Low 
bottom brackets help a bunch with this though. I absolutely recommend you 
keep the proper leg extension and just hop off the saddle when you need to 
put a foot down, or find a curb. I think if you lower it you will be 
sacrificing ride comfort in exchange for stop comfort.

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Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Steve Palincsar]

Will stopping, dismounting and standing with one foot on the ground, 
sort of half-sitting on the top tube with the other leg, cramp you up?  
I see people do it, but in my experience keeping your butt on the saddle 
while poking a leg out as a prop is a recipe for disaster.



On 12/11/18 5:19 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote:



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

I can't see any other way to achieve "correct" leg extension while
still retaining the ability to put both feet flat on the floor -


Not talking both feet flat, just one that I can rest on the ground 
without cramping up - which happens to me more often these days. I'll 
play with the saddle height and see what works. I see people doing it 
all the time, and maybe they are inefficient, but they do look 
comfortable.



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Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I can't see any other way to achieve "correct" leg extension while still 
> retaining the ability to put both feet flat on the floor -
>

Not talking both feet flat, just one that I can rest on the ground without 
cramping up - which happens to me more often these days. I'll play with the 
saddle height and see what works. I see people doing it all the time, and 
maybe they are inefficient, but they do look comfortable. 

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Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Steve Palincsar]

I can't see any other way to achieve "correct" leg extension while still 
retaining the ability to put both feet flat on the floor - that is, 
after all, the whole point of "crank forward".  Personally, it's not for 
me and I don't have the requirement: if I need to put both feet flat on 
the ground -- indeed, even just one foot on the ground -- I am going to 
stop and dismount.  However, I'm aware there are people for whom it is a 
requirement and the crank-forward design lets them do that.


On 12/11/18 4:45 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

Ha! That would answer the issue, wouldn’t it, Steve. Grin. On a Rivendell or 
other standard frame, the seat would need to be quite low to accomplish what 
you’re talking about, Marty. Likely prohibitively low.

With abandon,
Patrick


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[RBW] Re: Adventure Cyclist mags

['Jay Burkhalter' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Mark,

The Adventure Cyclists shipped today USPS Media Mail.  Estimated delivery 
12/17

Tracking  # 9549 0121 5066 8345 2537 23

Best,
Jay

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 11:43:42 AM UTC-6, esoterica etc wrote:
>
>
> Well shoot Jay, 
>
> If you’ve still got these, I’d love to take them off your hands. Just let 
> me know where to send payment and how much. My zip is 27591, and I’m sure 
> you know already, but postage is much cheaper if you send them via “media 
> mail” through the Post Office. Thanks! Cheers, 
>
> ~Mark 

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Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ha! That would answer the issue, wouldn’t it, Steve. Grin. On a Rivendell or 
other standard frame, the seat would need to be quite low to accomplish what 
you’re talking about, Marty. Likely prohibitively low.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Steve Palincsar]

Sounds like you want a "crank forward" semi-recumbent design

Image result for crank-forward bikes

On 12/11/18 4:21 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote:
Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the 
saddle" position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a 
little, and not have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you 
I'm guessing, I have an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my 
leg should be only slightly bent while in the saddle, or that if I 
pedal backwards with the ball of my foot on the pedal my hips should 
not rock. I've taken for granted that when I set the saddle height to 
accomplish both of those, it comes at the expense of putting my foot 
down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or unexpected roadside beer 
tent. I presume the echo is residue from some racer-oriented mag I 
once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me and embrace the 
low-down.


So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put 
your foot down?


Marty


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[RBW] Putting My Foot Down

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Marty,

The last photo in this post shows, a bit obliquely, leg bend at 6 o’clock. 
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/six-inches-of-fresh-powder-and-a-brisk-day

I’ve ending up lowering by saddle a skosh since going fixed gear ... makes 
riding mongolian style easier, given the pedals are always moving. I often 
stand at a light, from the saddle, with my foot down, but on the ball of my 
foot. I’d need to lean to put my foot flat.

With abandon,
Patrick 

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[RBW] Putting My Foot Down

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" 
position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not 
have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have 
an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly 
bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my 
foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when 
I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the 
expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or 
unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some 
racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me 
and embrace the low-down. 

So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your 
foot down? 

Marty

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Chev?

[Adam Leibow]

I have a cheviot and i can't imagine getting much more clearance with 
cantilevers, at least not enough to go through the hassle of getting studs 
brazed on and re-painted, not to mention shipping this long frame. I 
recommend just getting a Clem L, whether it's in addition to or instead of 
the cheviot. I have both and I think they are different enough. 

On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 3:53:47 PM UTC-8, A. Nostuh wrote:
>
> Has anyone gone through the trouble to braze canti posts to their cheviot? 
> How'd that work out for ya? any one wanna sell me a big silver cheviot?
> Al in Saratoga 

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[RBW] Re: Cool bike shops in Boston?

[Jack K]

Gosh darn it! Yesterday I posted to the 650B list thinking I was posting to 
iBOB. Apparently I needed another dose of humility and repeated the same 
SNAFU today, but to the RBW list. Yes, I'm a doofus. Please substitute 
"RBW'er" for "iBOB" in my post and it'll make more sense.

Thanks for your understanding,

-Jack K.

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:24:42 PM UTC-5, Jack K wrote:
>
> I was lucky enough to live in Boston for a few years at the start of this 
> millennium, so admittedly my intel on shops there may be a bit dated. 
> Harris Cyclery is an obvious iBOB choice, as every devout iBOB should make 
> the hajj to Harris at least once in their life. By pure random chance my 
> first apartment in "Boston" (really West Newton) was a few hundred yards 
> from Harris -- a sure sign I had made the right housing choice. But, at 
> least at that time, the shop itself was kind of underwhelming. Certainly a 
> cool little local shop with some neat stuff (big display of vintage 
> Raleigh's at that time), but not a life changing experience. I'm surprised 
> nobody has mentioned Belmont Wheelworks, which is the shop I used to wander 
> to if I had some time to kill on a Saturday afternoon. This place: 
> https://www.wheelworks.com/  This is an enormous shop with a huge 
> selection of bikes of every description -- see attached photo of a small 
> corner of the showroom. Built up and ready to test ride there was a huge 
> assortment of the usual mainstream road and MTB bikes, but also tandems, 
> recumbents, city bikes, touring bikes & gear, the odd unicycle, etc... The 
> collection of rare and vintage bikes and jerseys on display is worth the 
> trip in itself. I was heavy into tandems at the time and the most amazing 
> to me was a 100+ year old donkey-back triple tandem for pacing track races. 
> There was also a Serotta Ti Legend with the DKS suspension seatstay option 
> on the wall that I usually ended up staring at for much too long. They also 
> have a frame builder-in-residence (
> http://www.peter-mooney.com/photos-1-50/) and there was always some of 
> his work on display, which is probably of more interest to most iBOB's. 
>
> Despite being the most fully stocked bike shop I'd ever been in, Belmont 
> Wheelworks had a second space just around the corner, not more than a few 
> hundred feet away, called "the annex" or "Wheelworks Anne" or some such. 
> It's where dead stock and trade-in bikes went to die. Being a notoriously 
> frugal iBOB I spent many hours there mining for treasure. That space 
> doesn't appear to be part of the operation anymore though. As I mentioned, 
> all my intel on this shop is pretty stale.
>
> Anyone visited Belmont Wheelworks recently and can report on the state of 
> things there?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Jack K.
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 11:46:11 AM UTC-5, Nathan Phipps wrote:
>>
>> Lots depending on the flavor of bob-sh you're looking for.
>>
>>- Harris Cyclery (Newton) is your pure bob-ish experience - sells and 
>>stocks Rivs, Gunnars, dynamo stuff, lots of Brooks bits.
>>- Broadway Bicycle (Cambridge) school is your new-school Surly, 
>>Crust, worker-owned bob-ish shop
>>- Cambridge Cycles (Cambridge) is another formerly fixie/messenger 
>>culture-focused turned Crust and bike-packing bob-ish shop
>>- Somervelo (Somerville) is your black-metal tinged custom bike 
>>bob-ish shop
>>
>> Quite a spectrum - moving from most to least bob-ish from top to bottom 
>> in my estimation.
>>
>> I'll be in Boston this weekend myself, but with kid in-tow. I don't 
>> expect to make it to any shops, but you never know. Enjoy!  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 10:02:33 PM UTC-5, Timothy Hurley wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, 
>>>I’m headed to Boston this weekend, are there any bob-ish/riv-y bike 
>>> shops there? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>> -T.J.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?

[Steven Sweedler]

Patrick, any idea what the capacity of the Hoss, I know it helps to have12”
from saddle loops to rack/support.
Tracking for mitten shells: 9500 1137 6261 8345 1986 89
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, all; this is the info I needed to decide -- that the Large is not
> Large enough for me. Too bad, because I really like saddlebags, in a
> sentimental, impractical way, rather as I like the *idea* of Moustache
> bars. And, there was a Large offered for sale at a reasonable price
> recently,
>
> FWIW, my Ortlieb Sports Packers carry 30 litres the pair while my Roller
> Packers carry 40, so until someone makes a 50 liter saddlebag, I guess I'll
> stick with panniers.
>
> Class: for your homework tonight, draw a picture of a 50 liter saddlebag
> mounted to a 49 cm frame.
>
> Patrick Moore, who despite his preference for panniers, presently owns:
> Carradice Junior; Carradice Camper Longflap; Carradice SQR Slim.
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> I checked my memory in a roundabout way and am 97.8 percent sure I'm
>> correct.  I have a pair of Carradice Kendal panniers and was considering
>> using those last spring on a tour, and remember thinking that the total
>> volume of the Kendals at 32 liters was about the same as that of my large
>> Saddlesack, so capacity-wise it didn't matter.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[RBW] Re: Did you have a 2018 cycling goal? Did you achieve it?

[William R.]

I agree this is a great thread. Very inspiring. I really like the idea of 
throwing goals out there in front of where you are. This year has continued 
a downward trajectory in overall mileage for me. I'm currently at 1,840+ 
miles on the year and I've given myself the goal of getting to 2k. I'm not 
too upset about it because I had some very great experiences on the bike 
this year. I'm 52 and I have two children, a 10 year old and a 14 yo. I 
live in the burbs and commute into the city. It's hard to find the time but 
I'm working on it. A general goal is to try to be active as much as 
possible. Most days I walk to the train station and from the station to my 
office on the other end of the ride (3.5 miles) and the same back home. 
Back to the bike, when I was younger, I consistently did 5k+ mileage years 
and logged three 7500+ years in my late 30's. As I get older, I envision my 
schedule slowly cracking open again as my kids grow up. My goal is to 
slowly grow the mileage back up. I would really like to ride more regularly 
too. More days where I actually get on the bike. To that end I really like 
Jon's 300 days a year goal. In 2019 I am going to try to tweak my schedule 
and get out there more on a daily basis even if it's for just a half hour 
or 45 minutes of hill climbing in the winter. Good luck to all with their 
goals. There are a lot of good ones here!

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Acorn Rando Bag,

[Cody Bartz]

Are you referring to a post by John W (which shows up near the top of the 
iBob list right now? If so, I contacted him and it has sold (it was from an 
older post he never updated).

I really appreciate the heads up!

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[RBW] WTB: Acorn Rando Bag,

[Jonathan D.]

There is one listed on ibob. 

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[RBW] Two projects!

[Ana Candela]

Wavie!! Have you seen the photo in the latest blahg? I think it’s the rivviest 
handlebar  They should make it a postcard, too. Maybe it’s the holy girl/grail 
handlebar ;) Have fun with the builds!

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[RBW] WTB: Acorn Rando Bag,

[Cody Bartz]

Hoping to find one in tan, open to medium and tall sizes.

: ) 
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[RBW] Re: Cool bike shops in Boston?

[Nathan Phipps]

Lots depending on the flavor of bob-sh you're looking for.

   - Harris Cyclery (Newton) is your pure bob-ish experience - sells and 
   stocks Rivs, Gunnars, dynamo stuff, lots of Brooks bits.
   - Broadway Bicycle (Cambridge) school is your new-school Surly, Crust, 
   worker-owned bob-ish shop
   - Cambridge Cycles (Cambridge) is another formerly fixie/messenger 
   culture-focused turned Crust and bike-packing bob-ish shop
   - Somervelo (Somerville) is your black-metal tinged custom bike bob-ish 
   shop

Quite a spectrum - moving from most to least bob-ish from top to bottom in 
my estimation.

I'll be in Boston this weekend myself, but with kid in-tow. I don't expect 
to make it to any shops, but you never know. Enjoy!  



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> Hi all, 
>I’m headed to Boston this weekend, are there any bob-ish/riv-y bike 
> shops there? 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> -T.J.

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Re: [RBW] Cool bike shops in Boston?

[John H.]

* Harris over in West Newton (as noted above) is a must. There’s a great BBQ 
restaurant around the corner (Blue Ribbon BBQ) if you’re into that sort of 
thing. 

* Cambridge Bicycle is just over the bridge in Kendall Square. They have a ton 
of cool Swift, Nitto and Fairweather stuff. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Nitto 27F Campee front rack (with removable pannier attachments)

[Cody Bartz]

: ) 

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[RBW] Did you have a 2018 cycling goal? Did you achieve it?

[Ana Candela]

Great thread! And great ideas!

I didn’t have any cycling goals in particular for 2018, just a few upgrades to 
my bike. Hopefully, 2019 will see an accomplishment of the most important 
upgrade: fine-tuning of the engine ;)

-Ana “PurpleRiv’s Engine” Candela

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Re: [RBW] Re: Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all; this is the info I needed to decide -- that the Large is not
Large enough for me. Too bad, because I really like saddlebags, in a
sentimental, impractical way, rather as I like the *idea* of Moustache
bars. And, there was a Large offered for sale at a reasonable price
recently,

FWIW, my Ortlieb Sports Packers carry 30 litres the pair while my Roller
Packers carry 40, so until someone makes a 50 liter saddlebag, I guess I'll
stick with panniers.

Class: for your homework tonight, draw a picture of a 50 liter saddlebag
mounted to a 49 cm frame.

Patrick Moore, who despite his preference for panniers, presently owns:
Carradice Junior; Carradice Camper Longflap; Carradice SQR Slim.

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rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I checked my memory in a roundabout way and am 97.8 percent sure I'm
> correct.  I have a pair of Carradice Kendal panniers and was considering
> using those last spring on a tour, and remember thinking that the total
> volume of the Kendals at 32 liters was about the same as that of my large
> Saddlesack, so capacity-wise it didn't matter.
>
> Dave
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Nitto 27F Campee front rack (with removable pannier attachments)

[Bill Lindsay]

NOT buy actual Nitto parts?  That’s adorable. 

Seriously though I’ll probably just buy them from RBW. Maybe in-person. 

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Chev?

[Kainalu V.]

"Supposed to" is strong language, I think the centered posts are as close to 
ideal as any. The offset posts would have me filing farther in the opposite 
direction. Slow and steady, ever forward (because backwards dulls the file!)
-Kai
BKNY 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?

[Ana Candela]

Hi Patrick,

David’s memory is right. Here’s the text from 
http://web.archive.org/web/20161028191636/http://www.rivbike.com:80/product-p/bassl-o.htm

Capacity
Not bulged (imagine): 1700 cubic inches, or 27.8 liters (the British way)
Bulged but not ridiculous: 1984 cubic inches, or 32.5 liters

The great thing about this bag is you can think “outside the bag”, so you can 
always count on it for “ridiculous” loads! Loads of fun ;-D

Check out some of mine:
https://instagram.com/p/BaH09ZBjRaz/
https://instagram.com/p/BfAmy1PDGRt/
https://instagram.com/p/BWB1DUGjc-i/
https://instagram.com/p/Bq1kv3EFHcj/
https://instagram.com/p/BhYSPwBjzGk/
https://instagram.com/p/Bp5822JFeOv/

-Ana “❤️ my Sackville Saddlesack” Candela

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Nitto 27F Campee front rack (with removable pannier attachments)

[Cody Bartz]

Hi Bill,

I will let you know if it comes with them and I don't need them. Velo 
Orange also makes a set if you are OK with non-Nitto.
https://velo-orange.com/collections/rack-hardware-and-accessories/products/canti-brake-rack-mounting-bolts

Cody Bartz
Key West, FL 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Nitto 27F Campee front rack (with removable pannier attachments)

[Bill Lindsay]

If your used rack comes to you with the double-headed Nitto bolts, and if you 
don’t need those double headed Nitto bolts because you are putting the rack on 
a Rivendell, I would be interested in buying them from you. Rivendell sells 
those bolts for $17. Let me know if you want to sell me those bolts. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Brand V handlebar bag

[esoterica etc]

Sold!

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[RBW] Re: Rat Trap Pass: reviews? impressions? poetic waxings?

[phil k]

The tires are made by Panaracer, and these tires are made by hand - which 
may explain why there is a slight difference in weight, yet crafted very 
carefully.

The RTPs are some of my favorite tires, if only they made more bikes that 
fit them. I would get the SC 14s, as the tires on 23mm outside width rims 
measure around 50mm.

-Phil
Arlington, VA

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 7:39:39 PM UTC-5, Kowalsky wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I feel a bit crazy as I just received a pair of these... well, it's my 
> little Christmas presi?
>
> Of course I had to inspect them first and a few questions came up that I 
> did not find on my wild search in the net and I was wondering if there are 
> some who'd know a bit more?
>
> - I was wondering how to read the manufacturing date (e.g. N15 on the 
> left, 2 circles 12 dots, 1 circle 10 dots and a S1 on the far right)?
>
> - The Rat Trap Pass is recommended with a Schwalbe SV13. At the moment I 
> have only the SV14 here and before buying those SV13, I was curious for the 
> reason (minimal better puncture resistance, better roll off, little stiffer 
> tire...etc)? I wrote to Compass about this a few days ago, but didn't hear 
> back yet.
>
> - And a silly one at last: One tire came in at 452gr, the other with 20gr 
> more at 472gr. Not too nice, but not too crazy I guess. Still wondering 
> where/how these extra 5% add up (I hope not on a single spot, or cause 
> unevenness)?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Am Freitag, 19. August 2016 01:16:59 UTC+2 schrieb Patch T:
>>
>> They've been out for just over a year now, yeah? More? 
>>
>> Who has been riding them extensively, and can share some solid feedback? 
>> Where and how do you ride them? On what? With whom? And why?!?!
>>
>> I'm interested in getting the Standards, but would like to read about the 
>> Extralights, too.
>>
>> (If there's already the same thread, apologies, I searched but couldn't 
>> find it)
>>
>> Love,
>> Patch
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Chev?

[lambbo]

Oh, forgot to update the group!  

Our experiment is on - more experimental than intended, I ordered non-offset 
posts and Kai pointed out, when I dropped everything off at his studio, that 
they are supposed to be offset. 
So I think Kai is going to try to improvise with some files, which seems extra 
fun to me. 

We'll keep you posted! pun intended 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Nitto 27F Campee front rack (with removable pannier attachments)

[Cody Bartz]

I found a rack! I didn't think I would, but am very happy to have found a 
used one. Thank you Cam and others that replied. 

: ) 
Cody Bartz

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