[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Cody Bartz]

Wow gang, this is great! Happy to chip in : ) 

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Alex, don't forget shipping. I'm not sure where this bicycle is destined to 
end up? At one of the local clubs?Hopefully there will be enough for a complete 
bicycle!

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[William!]

Done! Thanks for organizing!

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

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Great organization, great idea! Just gave. Looks like we're almost halfway 
there. 

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[RBW] Re: FS 55 Hillborne and Brompton M6L

[Max S]

Need photos, friend! 

- Max 

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 7:18:01 PM UTC-5, Andrew Huston wrote:
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> Bump, some interest but nothing serious yet. 

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Thanks Justin!

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> Funds are tight. 1 income, 1 year old turns 1 on Christmas Eve. Still gave 
> $10.
>
> You can do it!
> -J
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[RBW] FS 55 Hillborne and Brompton M6L

[Andrew Huston]

Bump, some interest but nothing serious yet. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Garth]

  
 Uh  no shit Patrick !   Now you're gettin' it ! 
 

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 4:42:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Garth: Make assertion; deny validity of assertion; tape over logical 
> contradiction with smile. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Patrick Moore]

Photo # 1 is officially RBW-list photo of year.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:25 PM Bill Schairer  wrote:

> I was in Cambodia for two weeks back in March.  Bought myself a
> discarded,single speed, Bridgestone commuter from Japan for $40 to ride
> around on.  I couldn’t get the seat up high enough so did my riding per
> your criteria.  Almost blew my knees out on the first ride but then somehow
> learned to adjust my pedaling style and I had a grand time riding up to 26
> very flat miles that way.  That said, given a choice, I would not choose to
> ride that way but I’m sure glad I did it for those two weeks.
>
> Bill

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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Patrick Moore]

One of these days I'll have to get a DL-1 or clone just to try one out
again after 45 years. I think they stink as far as riding position goes,
but they exercise an unhealthy fascination over me that the Sport, say,
does not.

Fun fact: I recall borrowing our askari's clone and riding it over the
hilly countryside; I do recall the, as it were very indirect or mediated
(not quite sure by what; perhaps "muted") response from the bike to any
input at the pedal. (For the record, in exchange for the loan -- I am not
devoid of conscience -- I would do otherwise entirely neglected
maintenance.)

Back on topic: Never remember trying to reach the ground while seated.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:05 PM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> On 12/12/18 4:41 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> > Garth: Make assertion; deny validity of assertion; tape over logical
> > contradiction with smile.
> >
> > Patrick: Making assertion and not apologizing for it - actually,
> > reducing his assertion to a meek question, and aiming it at Steve
> > Palincsar in particular:
> >
> > Steve: With the hugely laid-back angles of the Raleigh DL-1, can't you
> > get a good leg extension thanks to sitting further behind the bb,
> > while at the same time having a saddle low enough to let you put your
> > foot down comfortably while seated? OTOH, don't such frames have very
> > small bb drops?
>
>
> I truly don't remember.  I rode one from 1980 - 1985, which was a very
> long, long time ago.  But I was never one for
> butt-on-saddle-one-foot-on-the-ground, I always got down off the bike.
> Toe-propping seems so very precarious to me, even less stable than a
> kickstand.  But yes definitely, slack slack slack seat angle to go along
> with slack head angle.  Sit up straight went really well with cycling in
> "business attire."
>
>
> >
> > Also, while we're here: what is the stock gearing on one of those
> > bobby bikes? I seem to recall 46 X 18, or about 72 inches. Right?
>
>
> All I remember is, the high gear on mine was so high, shortly after I
> bought the bike I got a larger sprocket to lower the gear range.  I just
> looked at Pashley's site (they still make a roadster) but there's no
> indication on the site what the gearing is.   But 72" would be about right.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/12/18 4:41 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
Garth: Make assertion; deny validity of assertion; tape over logical 
contradiction with smile.


Patrick: Making assertion and not apologizing for it - actually, 
reducing his assertion to a meek question, and aiming it at Steve 
Palincsar in particular:


Steve: With the hugely laid-back angles of the Raleigh DL-1, can't you 
get a good leg extension thanks to sitting further behind the bb, 
while at the same time having a saddle low enough to let you put your 
foot down comfortably while seated? OTOH, don't such frames have very 
small bb drops?



I truly don't remember.  I rode one from 1980 - 1985, which was a very 
long, long time ago.  But I was never one for 
butt-on-saddle-one-foot-on-the-ground, I always got down off the bike.  
Toe-propping seems so very precarious to me, even less stable than a 
kickstand.  But yes definitely, slack slack slack seat angle to go along 
with slack head angle.  Sit up straight went really well with cycling in 
"business attire."





Also, while we're here: what is the stock gearing on one of those 
bobby bikes? I seem to recall 46 X 18, or about 72 inches. Right?



All I remember is, the high gear on mine was so high, shortly after I 
bought the bike I got a larger sprocket to lower the gear range.  I just 
looked at Pashley's site (they still make a roadster) but there's no 
indication on the site what the gearing is.   But 72" would be about right.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?

[Patrick Moore]

Sorry, don't know; sold my Hoss a couple of years ago. From my recollection
of loading both, I'd guess it's much the same as that of a large Saddlesack.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM Steven Sweedler  wrote:

> Patrick, any idea what the capacity of the Hoss, I know it helps to
> have12” from saddle loops to rack/support.
> Tracking for mitten shells: 9500 1137 6261 8345 1986 89
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all; this is the info I needed to decide -- that the Large is not
>> Large enough for me. Too bad, because I really like saddlebags, in a
>> sentimental, impractical way, rather as I like the *idea* of Moustache
>> bars. And, there was a Large offered for sale at a reasonable price
>> recently,
>>
>> FWIW, my Ortlieb Sports Packers carry 30 litres the pair while my Roller
>> Packers carry 40, so until someone makes a 50 liter saddlebag, I guess I'll
>> stick with panniers.
>>
>> Class: for your homework tonight, draw a picture of a 50 liter saddlebag
>> mounted to a 49 cm frame.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who despite his preference for panniers, presently owns:
>> Carradice Junior; Carradice Camper Longflap; Carradice SQR Slim.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> I checked my memory in a roundabout way and am 97.8 percent sure I'm
>>> correct.  I have a pair of Carradice Kendal panniers and was considering
>>> using those last spring on a tour, and remember thinking that the total
>>> volume of the Kendals at 32 liters was about the same as that of my large
>>> Saddlesack, so capacity-wise it didn't matter.
>>>
>>> Dave
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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Justin, Oakland]

Funds are tight. 1 income, 1 year old turns 1 on Christmas Eve. Still gave $10.

You can do it!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Patrick Moore]

Garth: Make assertion; deny validity of assertion; tape over logical
contradiction with smile.

Patrick: Making assertion and not apologizing for it - actually, reducing
his assertion to a meek question, and aiming it at Steve Palincsar in
particular:

Steve: With the hugely laid-back angles of the Raleigh DL-1, can't you get
a good leg extension thanks to sitting further behind the bb, while at the
same time having a saddle low enough to let you put your foot down
comfortably while seated? OTOH, don't such frames have very small bb drops?

Also, while we're here: what is the stock gearing on one of those bobby
bikes? I seem to recall 46 X 18, or about 72 inches. Right?

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:35 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>
> Still,  for any and all personal experience/aka opinions, including
> this, is so utterly biased, limited and non-sensical it cannot see past
> it's nose/knows/opining ..Aahahahaahahaha !
>
> Regardless of the bike or where, for every so called rule you will see
> someone that contradicts it, where it is not applicable, because such rules
> are not rules at all but personal opinions , and you know what they say
> about opinions and everyone having one ;-)
>
>
>
> just gotta smile with it ALL !! ... or not ... and smile about nothing
>  or frown  and smile about frowning ... .. hardy har har !
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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Philip Williamson]

I'd agree with this. I used to cramp badly after long rides, and I would 
eat pickles and drink pickle brine to relieve the pain. It kinda worked, 
but didn't prevent the cramping in the first place. 

Now I take salt tablets on my rides, and take between one and three during 
the ride, or one or two when I finish, or if I feel a cramp- twinge. So far 
I have had zero cramping issues, even on longer and hotter rides. I use the 
"Salt Stick" brand capsule from REI, which have no added sugar. A 
listmember turned me onto them on a ride where I could barely walk the bike 
up the last hill, due to nasty cramps. Within a few minutes of taking the 
tablets, the cramps dissipated and I could ride again.  

Philip 
Santa Rosa, CA 


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> Marty, if the issue is cramping, is it not far easier to address that? 
> Try: 2x daily bioplasma cell salts, and put them in your water bottle when 
> you ride.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Garth]

Still,  for any and all personal experience/aka opinions, including 
this, is so utterly biased, limited and non-sensical it cannot see past 
it's nose/knows/opining ..Aahahahaahahaha !  

Regardless of the bike or where, for every so called rule you will see 
someone that contradicts it, where it is not applicable, because such rules 
are not rules at all but personal opinions , and you know what they say 
about opinions and everyone having one ;-)

 

just gotta smile with it ALL !! ... or not ... and smile about nothing  
or frown  and smile about frowning ... .. hardy har har ! 

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Drw]

excellent idea. doing it now. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Patrick Moore]

I agree with -- sorry, don't know name; "this." I like a high saddle, or
full leg extension, and I have never, ever thought twice, or even once,
about sliding off the saddle to put my foot down while straddling the top
tube, even on a 60 cm (c-c) frame.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 3:53 PM CMR  wrote:

> I think Rivendell and Grant are actually pretty forward about raising the
> seat to the proper height. My first time at Rivendell Grant spent 15
> minutes helping me get a proper height on my Mercian, raising it 2-3
> centimeters. So not so much a Racer thing as just a fact of riding bikes,
> you can't ride comfortably and still put your foot down t easily. Low
> bottom brackets help a bunch with this though. I absolutely recommend you
> keep the proper leg extension and just hop off the saddle when you need to
> put a foot down, or find a curb. I think if you lower it you will be
> sacrificing ride comfort in exchange for stop comfort.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rosco Bubbe Head Badge

[Paul M]

On Tuesday, 11 December 2018 19:44:22 UTC-8, Paul M wrote:
>
> Howdy, I just removed the head badge from a new Rosco Bubbe frameset I'm 
> about to build up. If you need one or collect head badges this one is 
> available. $23 shipped. Thanks, Paul
>



SOLD! It went to macncheese. 

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here’s the link to the bioplasma I was suggesting: 
https://www.amazon.com/Hylands-Bioplasma-Homeopathic-Combination-Cellular/dp/B00126349K/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8=1544636904=8-3=bioplasma

A Google search gives results for other than the 12 cell salt combo. Basically, 
the concept of bioplasma is it aids the body in accessing the minerals in the 
body, which greatly aids muscle function.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[nemomom123]

I'm in too - what a great idea!!! D 

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 7:02:07 PM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> Riv says they need at least 20 people to commit to buying a Hubbuh before 
> they'll be able to justify an order.  25 committed orders would be even 
> better.  They're close; but only 17 folks have committed.
>
> I can't justify one.  However -- ever hear of the Blind Tandem Cycling 
> Association ?  Wow...just wow.
>
> How cool would it be for us, as a group, to pool funds enough to add 1 to 
> the 17 already committed, and donate it to this wonderful organization?  
> Hubbuh's are $1875 for F/F/H/BB.  So, if 25 people put in $75
>
> Anyway, just one way to help a great org, and also help some fellow 
> Rivsters who missed out on the 1st run.  If there is enough interest maybe 
> Riv could set up a way on rivbike.com (similar to the Hail Mary last 
> year) to accept funds for this.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 57-59cm All Rounder Frame

[Jock Dewey]

I do believe 'College Park' Larry Black also owns Mt. Airy, and ~ yes ~ big 
collection of old bikes and must assume big warehouse. I do also believe he 
has no need to sell any of them.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA 

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:52:00 PM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> I've never been there, but probably should just to see in person what he 
> has in his collection.  I understand that he has loads of bikes on hand.
> All the best,
> Kevin
>
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 11:12:13 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I agree. I checked with him in 2011 so he's had it for at least 
>> that long. Strange way to run a bike shop. Have you been there? Does he 
>> have a big warehouse to store all those bikes? I envision something like I 
>> see on American Pickers.
>>
>> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 6:24:52 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>>>
>>> Jim -
>>> As it happens, Mt. Airy Bikes is only about an hour from my house and 
>>> I've been in touch with the owner more than once about that bike.  He 
>>> doesn't seem anxious to sell it, despite the fact that it's been in his 
>>> shop for several years.  At any rate, in my humble opinion, he's either 
>>> charging too much for it or I'm not making enough money, 'cause it seems 
>>> excessively expensive.
>>> All the best,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 8:27:01 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:

 This one has been at Mt Airy Bikes for a long time: 
 http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3804

 Pretty high asking price last time I checked, which was 2011.

 jim m
 walnut creek, ca

 On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 1:05:41 PM UTC-8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> A bit of a long shot here, but does anyone happen to have a 57 or 59cm 
> All Rounder frame that's looking for a new home?  If so, please PM me and 
> let's chat.
>
> Kevin Lindsey
> Alexandria, VA
>


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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Jeremy Till]

In my experience, riding with a saddle lower than "the optimal" is has led 
to significant knee pain while pedaling. I have plenty of experience doing 
so, as guy with long legs who has worked as a mechanic, and thus spent a 
fair bit of time test riding bikes with saddles lower than mine. I don't 
see it as a racer thing, but rather a element of a high quality cycling 
experience whether you're"just riding," riding to the store, or out for a 
century. 

What's optimal? I used to tell people that they're shooting for about 80% 
leg extension at the bottom of the stroke, but that was just to give them a 
starting place. My real rule of thumb is this: if the front of your knee 
(i.e. under the kneecap) is hurting while you ride, your saddle is probably 
too low.  If the back of your knee (i.e. your hamstrings) is hurting while 
you ride, your saddle is probably too high.  No pain around the knees? 
You're probably in good shape.  

All that being said, I've come to discover that "the optimal" seat height 
for me is significantly lower than most systems based on measuring inseam 
or PBH would recommend for me. My current saddle height, which has worked 
well for at least the last 5 years and plenty of long rides, is 5-6 cm 
shorter than my Rivendell-recommended seat height. I have a few theories as 
to why.  The first is that I have very tight hamstrings, as I am reminded 
at every single yoga class I attend. The other is that I've gone completely 
over to riding flat pedals, and riding with my foot farther forward on the 
pedal than I did when I was using retention systems (I've used clips and 
straps, power grips, and clipless pedals). Doing so effectively shortens my 
leg, requiring a lower saddle height.  

To the OP, I would say that I think that riding with your seat "too low" 
for any kind of significant distance is probably a recipe for pain and 
injury. However: 

1. You might be able to get by with a lower saddle than you think, or is 
recommended for you.  Some experimentation based on the front/back of knee 
rule of thumb might help here. 
2. There are ways to setup your bike to achieve both a lower overall saddle 
height while maintaining good leg extension: flat pedals with a midfoot 
positioning, sliding your saddle farther back on the rails, thinner pedals, 
thinner shoes, etc. If your braking system and frame allows it, fitting 
smaller wheels than those for which your bike is designed will lower you 
down, but potentially at the risk of increased pedal strikes. 

If you look at the bikes ridden around European cities, you'll see that 
they incorporate many of these design features: flat pedals, very slack 
seat tube angles, and low bottom bracket heights, so a bike like that also 
makes it easier to put a foot down while riding with a good leg extension.  
There have been some bikes marketed here in the U.S. for the same purpose: 
the RANS referenced above, Electras, Day 6 bikes, etc. Although since we're 
on the RBW forum I'm guessing your talking about it in the context of 
riding a Rivendell bike. They tend to have low BB's and slacker seat tube 
angles (but maybe not Dutch-bike-slack), so they are definitely easier than 
some other bikes in this context. 
 
Finally, and depending on what bike you're riding with what kind of 
seatpost extension, there's always the high tech solution: a dropper post. 
There are a few 27.2mm dropper posts out there and I've seen a picture of 
at least one Clem (set up for mountain biking) with one. Roll up to the 
beer stop, hit the lever on your handlebars, and the ground is instantly 
80-175mm closer, depending on the model of dropper post.  


On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 3:27:14 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
>
>   Lower your saddle and/or take no thought about it.   Take a look at your 
> "average" European cyclist you see in the streets... the people for whom 
> cycling is simple a part of everyday living. The men and women who ride in 
> everything business suits and loafers to full dresses and high heels.  What 
> I see is no one adhering to any such subjective "rule" about saddle height 
> and leg bend angle and all the techno mumbo jumbo that really has no basis 
> in truth because if it did, everyone who didn't adhere to it would "suffer 
> the dire consequences" that  "saddle position theories" claims will happen 
> if you don't worship it.  Tell that to grandma in Amsterdam who's been 
> riding here whole life her saddle is too low, that she can ride 
> better/faster/stronger ... that what she's doing is "wrong" and can be 
> "improved",  and see how that goes !   
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:21:53 PM UTC-5, Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>> Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" 
>> position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not 
>> have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have 
>> an ancient echo in my head that tells my how 

[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Great!  Thanks again Tom

FYI for anyone who wants to be on the fundraising "Team" all you need is 
the link aboveand you'll be able to easily share via social media and 
email etc.

Cheers!


Alex 
Rochester, NY

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 10:46:37 AM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> Fantastic - thanks so much Alex!  Just donated - very easy, and nice to 
> see PayPal can be used. 
>
> Really hoping this works out!
>
> Tom
>
>

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[tc]

Fantastic - thanks so much Alex!  Just donated - very easy, and nice to see 
PayPal can be used. 

Really hoping this works out!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: FS: Woolrich coat and pants

[lambbo]

Hi Steve - maybe a better photograph of the pants and jacket, unfolded?  Hard 
to get a sense of these, especially with the elastic cuff description

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

And here we are:

https://www.gofundme.com/rbw-owners-bunch-hubbahhubbah-tandem-fundraiser?teamInvite=LonZ64WsAAvcB4R2ONiVpXOPD5ulwHh1GWK0FrqVvNIYQhXR82olEgW7LEonHrAq


All donations go directly to the US Blind Cycling Tandem Connection in 
Californialet's make it happen!

I'll turn on Riv HQ to the effort...

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[RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Stand by, starting a go fund me page...

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 10:02:07 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> Riv says they need at least 20 people to commit to buying a Hubbuh before 
> they'll be able to justify an order.  25 committed orders would be even 
> better.  They're close; but only 17 folks have committed.
>
> I can't justify one.  However -- ever hear of the Blind Tandem Cycling 
> Association ?  Wow...just wow.
>
> How cool would it be for us, as a group, to pool funds enough to add 1 to 
> the 17 already committed, and donate it to this wonderful organization?  
> Hubbuh's are $1875 for F/F/H/BB.  So, if 25 people put in $75
>
> Anyway, just one way to help a great org, and also help some fellow 
> Rivsters who missed out on the 1st run.  If there is enough interest maybe 
> Riv could set up a way on rivbike.com (similar to the Hail Mary last 
> year) to accept funds for this.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Woolrich coat and pants

[Steve Butcher]

Well, folks, I've had a few inquiries but no takers.  A couple of persons 
asked about breaking up the set which I don't really care to do.  That 
said, I'll bump this and lower my price a bit to $140.00 shipped CONUS.  
The box to ship the suit will be bulky and somewhat heavy so shipping will 
eat up a considerable amount of the price; especially if it is shipped to 
either coast.  Please send my a private message if you have any questions.  
Thanks,  Steve

On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 6:29:08 AM UTC-6, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> [image: 20181206_111859.jpg]
> Good morning Rivendellians!
>
>  As it is evident that Rivendellians appreciate wool garments, it got 
> me to thinking about this coat and pants set I've had hanging in my closet 
> for several years.  This could be considered New Old Stock as I don't see 
> that Woolrich offers this pattern of plaid at this time.  First, I will 
> offer some backgroound information.  Some years ago, I was in Bass Pro 
> Shops Outlet store in Springfield, Missouri and found this coat and pants.  
> I was rather taken by the look, construction, and quality of the product.  
> Both the coat and pants were brand new and not returned items (the rack 
> actually had several) but I decided to have them dry cleaned.  I never wore 
> them because they are really intended for very cold and snowy weather; 
> which we were not getting at the time.  So...the set has remained in the 
> cleaning bag and hanging in my bedroom closet.  I really need to make some 
> room in the closet and this set should be in the possession of someone who 
> will use them.  The coat is a size Large which, according to the Woolrich 
> size chart should be a 42-44 chest.  The pants are a 36 inch waist.  The 
> blend is 85% Wool and 15% Nylon for both.  The coat is lined with a tan 
> cotton twill lining and is all button closure for both the coat and 
> pockets.  The pants are not lined but have an elastic cuff at the bottom of 
> the legs.  Now, wouldn't these pair up nicely with a Rivendell Granfors Axe 
> or Hatchet!  Would bring out one's inner Paul Bunyan, eh?   I'm asking 
> $150.00 shipped CONUS.  Please send me a private message for any questions.
>
> Steve Butcher
> Stockton, Missouri 
>

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[RBW] Re: Phil Wood bottom bracket, complete, and tools

[stevef]

Sold!

On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote:
>
> I have for sale a Phil Wood bottom bracket spindle, steel, 108mm length, 
> with stainless steel, English threaded rings, polished press-in mud guards, 
> and a pair of installation tools.  I had this installed on my Rambouillet 
> for a number of years but it still spins smoothly and has no play.  Good 
> stuff.  Mud guards show some sign of rub.  It's not bad, maybe something 
> got stuck in there for a bit because I can't believe the cranks rubbed for 
> the entire time I had the thing.  $80 shipped in conti-US, or make me an 
> offer!  
>
> Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI
>

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Marty, if the issue is cramping, is it not far easier to address that? Try: 2x 
daily bioplasma cell salts, and put them in your water bottle when you ride.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Palmer]

+1 to Ted Durant’s post. A low BB is key and shallow seat tube angle if 
possible. I had a Soma Wolverine that I put 26” wheels and 2” slicks that was 
an easy foot down bike. BB height was 255mm and even lower with me on it. Only 
1 pedal strike in a year of riding when I was aggressively crossing the uneven 
ground between road and parallel bike path. It also had huge platform petals 
which do not help the strike issue. Seat height same as my higher BB bikes. 
Not a cheap or easy way to go, but very fun for me. 
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Garth]

  Lower your saddle and/or take no thought about it.   Take a look at your 
"average" European cyclist you see in the streets... the people for whom 
cycling is simple a part of everyday living. The men and women who ride in 
everything business suits and loafers to full dresses and high heels.  What 
I see is no one adhering to any such subjective "rule" about saddle height 
and leg bend angle and all the techno mumbo jumbo that really has no basis 
in truth because if it did, everyone who didn't adhere to it would "suffer 
the dire consequences" that  "saddle position theories" claims will happen 
if you don't worship it.  Tell that to grandma in Amsterdam who's been 
riding here whole life her saddle is too low, that she can ride 
better/faster/stronger ... that what she's doing is "wrong" and can be 
"improved",  and see how that goes !   



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:21:53 PM UTC-5, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
> Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" 
> position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not 
> have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have 
> an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly 
> bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my 
> foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when 
> I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the 
> expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or 
> unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some 
> racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me 
> and embrace the low-down. 
>
> So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your 
> foot down? 
>
> Marty
>

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