[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?

[tc]

The greenway where I ride 90% of the time seems not to follow the weather 
report to know what it’s supposed to be doing. No matter which direction I’m 
going, I’m facing a headwind. 

Just last Sunday I was thinking about how the headwinds seem to follow me like 
the smoke of a campfire. I was preturbed by it; I mean, I was working too hard 
to keep my pace!  I was having to use that (perfectly good) bend up front on my 
Wavie bar just to keep my upper body sail from slowing me down further. 

How stupid. I’d bet it was blowing no more than 12-15 mph. It was a gorgeous 
day.  Saw the first red-headed woodpeckers of the year that day, and realized 
how perfectly great the bike felt, very natural. Everything was where it needed 
to be. Why think of pace?  Really?!

I really like the Deacon’s perspective - whatever’s there, go with it, have fun!

Tom

PS:  windproof outer shell, eye covering (prevents dry eyes and dirt), and a 
geometry that allows just enough tuck while still being comfortable and 
producing decent power.   That’s all I got, nothing earth-shattering. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

[Mike K.]

In a straight line, it's 23"/58.4cm, but a geo tool I plugged the other 
specs into gave me a reading of 60.01cm.

On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 6:27:53 PM UTC-6, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Mike
>
> Nice bike.  Do you know or can you measure the Front Center distance, the 
> distance from crank center to center of the front hub.  Need 61 cm to 
> prevent TCO
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

[Mike K.]

I measured 23"/58.4cm.

On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 6:27:53 PM UTC-6, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Mike
>
> Nice bike.  Do you know or can you measure the Front Center distance, the 
> distance from crank center to center of the front hub.  Need 61 cm to 
> prevent TCO
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Cranks! Ritchey, VO, Sugino

[Daniel Jackson]

A crank sale! Prices include CONUS shipping. 

1.  *Velo Orange* Grand Cru 50.4 BCD Crankset 46/30 175mm arms. New in box. 
$110 shipped

2. *Ritchey Logic *110 BCD with 46/34. 175mm arms. $88 shipped. 

3. *Sugino XD2 Triple *46/36/24 $70 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Patrick Moore]

Garth: Where do you live? Care to share any photos of your walking areas?

I am very fortunate to live within a couple of hundred yards of the Rio
Grande bosque, and there are miles of old "acequia" trails and dirt Rio
Grande Conservancy District maintenance roads for walking -- with
appropriate seasonal wildlife, for that matter. Walking in wind is rather
fun.

Nick: I recall riding west one winter morning across one of our bridges
over the RG, with heavy winds and huge gusts out of the south -- when you
come to a bridge, the bosque wind shielding trees give way, and you are
open to the full blast of southerlies/SSWesterlies. One of those gusts
suddenly blew me sideways into the roadside barrier wall -- I'd well have
gone into the river were the wall not there. I also recall spinning along
merrily with a huge westerly at my back, big ring/small cog, just blasting
up a hill, and having a large cardboard box pass my by at about 25 mph.

One more anecdote, that you all (y'all, youse) who have heard it 30 times
before can ignore: one early April afternoon, after a longish winter
layoff, back when I worked in Gallup, NM, even more exposed to westerlies
than is ABQ, I decided to go for a long lunchtime ride (I was PR Director
and so was somewhat autonomous). I took my 3X7 east along old Rt 66, with a
howling westerly, barreling along in the top ~96" gear (100+ gears are for
wussies) at 27 mph thinking, "man, I'm in better shape than I had thought."
Made it to the point where 66 dead ends into I-40; turned around; 15 miles
back  against, you guessed it, a headwind. Dropped to the 38; dropped
to the 28 (ring); backed the chain up against the spokes; ran out of water
 got back to the office and cleaned up. Had a local access TV
appearance that night. Eyes red; muscles cramped so badly that when I bent
forward to ease my hamstrings, my abdominal muscles would cramp.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 2:38 PM Garth  wrote:

>
> I really don't mind about what the wind speed is for riding as far
> exertion, it's that with my narrow roads and not being able to have full
> control over the steering in the swirls and gusts it's not worth it. My
> Frankin bike with lower trail handles fairly well in any wind, the Bombadil
> can be downright scary at times as in a high cross wind I'm a mere
> passenger, wherever the winds blows . so blows the bike and I and it's
> non-negotiable. I've been "driven" many a times.This would be fun off
> road and in open land but I have no such place around here to ride.  On
> such days I go for walk in the hills that I walk in the winter. On top of
> the highest hill in summer is rather fun as the wind is highest up there.
> In the winter I don't ride and when we get lake effect micro snow squalls I
> go up there and with layer upon layer of hills watching it all unfold is
> priceless and indescribable. I laugh like a little kid the whole time.
> It's like a living portrait, completely alive ! There is dog that lives on
> that hill in home that was originally built by my uncle in the 70's. Since
> I can recall every time she is outside and sees me she gallops like a horse
> with big grin on her face in eager anticipation of walking with me around
> the neighborhood. That's Shelby girl !
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Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Patrick Moore]

I commuted for years W-E/E-W across town, from the city's low point at the
Rio Grande to within 1.5 miles of the Sandia foothills, a gradual climb of
some 7 miles along Rt 66 (total 15-16 depending on starting point -- I
moved -- and route). This was for by far the most part on fixed gears in
the 67" to 70" range. It was always frustrating that the return leg, again
7 miles downhill, was never any faster than the outbound leg; the reason
being the afternoon westerlies that blow almost all year round. Of course,
the winds only started up about noon.



On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Headwinds- I'll keep my chin up, not looking at the ground, pretending to
> go really fast.
> Tailwinds- hardly exist. In the winter I've always got headwinds on my way
> to work, and they never end up as tailwinds for the ride home. It's  the
> darndest thing, I suppose I'm affected by something akin to tidal currents.
> -Kai
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[RBW] Re: Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Bill Schairer]

Depends:

Most of the time I try to get my ride in early in the morning to avoid wind.  
If I don’t and the wind picks up I will be mightily discouraged from getting 
out.  If I’m out and there is wind, I will admit to having re-routed myself in 
order to catch a tailwind and shoot for a new personal record in Strava on one 
segment or another.  Is that cheating?

On tandem tour years ago in the high plains north of Waterton NP, heavy 
crosswinds forced us to do some walking.  On another tour on a single, I was 
blown off the road into a lettuce patch in Oxnard and later in the day, the 
wind tore my glasses off and blew them across PCH at Pt. Mugu.  At times I was 
in my granny gear on level road.

Last April riding home to SD from OC on the coast I had the most delightful 
tail wind that turned a planned two day ride into a one day ride.  The wind 
wouldn’t let me stop.

Bill S

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

PM sent for wheelset.

On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 1:00:25 PM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote:
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> Everything pending except the wheelset and brake levers. Getting back to 
> PMs now. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

[John Hawrylak]

Mike

Nice bike.  Do you know or can you measure the Front Center distance, the 
distance from crank center to center of the front hub.  Need 61 cm to 
prevent TCO

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


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[RBW] Touch-up paint for blue Joes?

[Ray Varella]

I’ve always brought my bike into a store that sells testers model paint and 
held up the bottles till I found something close. 

I glue a tiny piece of fine sandpaper to the eraser end of a pencil to feather 
the edges of the scratch and prep the area. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Edwin W]

Deacon P, if you ever get blown to Tennessee, look me up!

In Nashville, where the wind doesn’t usually seem to bad factor in to my riding 
decisions,

Edwin

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[RBW] Touch-up paint for blue Joes?

[Joe Bernard]

I had one and tried to match with a powder blue auto color, not very 
successfully (too light). You might have better luck mixing standard blue and 
white model paints..just keep adding white to blue until it looks about right. 
Just realize it'll never be perfect!

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[RBW] Re: Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Garth]

I really don't mind about what the wind speed is for riding as far 
exertion, it's that with my narrow roads and not being able to have full 
control over the steering in the swirls and gusts it's not worth it. My 
Frankin bike with lower trail handles fairly well in any wind, the Bombadil 
can be downright scary at times as in a high cross wind I'm a mere 
passenger, wherever the winds blows . so blows the bike and I and it's 
non-negotiable. I've been "driven" many a times.This would be fun off 
road and in open land but I have no such place around here to ride.  On 
such days I go for walk in the hills that I walk in the winter. On top of 
the highest hill in summer is rather fun as the wind is highest up there. 
In the winter I don't ride and when we get lake effect micro snow squalls I 
go up there and with layer upon layer of hills watching it all unfold is 
priceless and indescribable. I laugh like a little kid the whole time. 
It's like a living portrait, completely alive ! There is dog that lives on 
that hill in home that was originally built by my uncle in the 70's. Since 
I can recall every time she is outside and sees me she gallops like a horse 
with big grin on her face in eager anticipation of walking with me around 
the neighborhood. That's Shelby girl ! 

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[RBW] Re: Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Nick Payne]

When the wind gets strong enough for the gusts to blow me either across the 
road into the oncoming lane or off the road into the ditch is where I draw 
the line. That starts to happen when it's blowing somewhere around 70-80kph.

On a tandem tour of Victoria many years ago we encountered a wind like that 
while heading out of Melbourne. Wasn't too bad as a block headwind, but 
became quite unmanageable when the road turned and it became a crosswind. 
We turned tail and headed back towards Melbourne. With the wind behind us, 
we had our big gear wound right out at about 70kph, and still weren't up 
with the wind speed.

Nick

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

[Derek Atkins]

Everything pending except the wheelset and brake levers. Getting back to PMs 
now. 

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[RBW] Nitto Bullmoose: 1 1/8 & 22.2 Quill versions

[Brian Campbell]

Lots of talk about these bars recently. Saw these for sale from Great 
Britain. No affliliation.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/HBNIBULL901RX/nitto-bullmoose-b901rx-handlebar

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

PM sent for those WI cranks.


On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 12:46:47 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> PM sent with a slew of questions.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick

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[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Headwinds- I'll keep my chin up, not looking at the ground, pretending to go 
really fast. 
Tailwinds- hardly exist. In the winter I've always got headwinds on my way to 
work, and they never end up as tailwinds for the ride home. It's  the darndest 
thing, I suppose I'm affected by something akin to tidal currents.
-Kai

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[RBW] FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

PM sent with a slew of questions.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

[Mike K.]

Bumping the Ram. And dropping the price to $1,200 + shipping.

- Mike

On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 7:08:02 PM UTC-6, Mike K. wrote:
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> Evening all,
> Putting the Ram back on the market. It's 54cm. Pics are here: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fJcLeXudQ5gKt4Ad9
>
> $1,300 + shipping via bikeflights
>
> And here's the build:
> Seat tube: 54cm
> Top tube: 55cm
> Ultegra 6503 triple crank, 172.5mm, 52-42-30
> Ultegra 6503 front derailleur
> Deore M591 9sp rear derailleur
> 11-32 9sp cassette 
> Tektro R539 sidepull brakes
> Shimano bar ends.
> Nitto Tallux Stem
> Cambio Rino aero seatpost
> Gary bars with TRP RRL levers
> Front wheel is a Shimano hub with Sunrim CR18 36h rim
> Rear is Deore hub to Mavic A319 36h
> Panaracer Pasela 32cm tires
> Saddle is not included
>
> Let me know if you have questions
>
> - Mike in ATX
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[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ha! Well, theologically speaking, we are all elves (aveternal), so none of us 
are “mere mortals.” Grin. I don’t know if you want to exclude my response for 
other reasons, though. Still, I’m cocky enough to offer it. Grin. If it helps, 
I turned around once because of wind. Climbing Pikes Peak on the QB, I didn’t 
have a low enough gear for riding into 60mph steady winds while climbing at 
13,000. That, plus a wrong lean at the wrong time could have put me in 
Tennessee by the time I landed. Grin.

But on my regular rides, I’ve climbed and descended both with and against up to 
60mph sustained winds, though 40 sustained with gusts to 60 is more common. 
Swirling is the worst, as there is no way to know which way to lean, so I aim 
for the middle and tuck as low as I go. There is a spot notorious for strong 
swirling winds, including impressive dust devils. It can be the hardest several 
hundred yards of a ride when all comes together just right. Grin. Some rides 
there is a concern that if I don’t pedal hard enough I’ll go east whilst aiming 
west. “I aimed for Woodland Park, honey, but ended up in Limon. Can you, er, 
come get me?” Grin.

Wind is a great example of how fishnet long johns have transformed my riding. I 
used to have to choose between being too warm and boil-in-a-bag but with wind 
block, or too cold. Not now. Today’s ride was 30-38˚F with 40mph winds and a 
tasty squall blustering through. I wore fishnet long john top, medium weight 
cotton flannel shirt, scarf (I can adjust air flow as needed, but this time of 
year it generally keep it snug), and Walz ear flap cap. Warm, dry, and felt 
like a gentle summer breeze keeping me just right in a light shirt (this is how 
the fishnet long john system always feels when dialed in for a given condition, 
be it raining, snowing, calm, blowing, 50, or minus 20.

Oh, and be sure to breathe only through your nose. It eliminates that gaspy 
feeling when the wind creates a vacuum around your mouth and you can’t suck in 
air. It filters out dust and bits of tin roof, barn wood, an occational lamb or 
cockapoo that weren’t properly tied down.

What else did you ask? “What do you consider a strong wind, and where do you 
stop riding? ... What's your technique, mental as well as physical? What gear?”

Strong: above 40mph. Where do I stop riding. I suppose much over 60mph. I’ve 
walked in 100mph winds before and that is something to experience once and 
avoid thereafter. Grin. You wonder my mental technique? Seriously? (I know, I 
know, you DQ’d me. Tough. Grin.). I ride. Like there isn’t a wind. Same as a 
hill. It’s just the conditions that are between me and where I’m going, so why 
let them weigh me down by focusing on them? There are what they are. So what? 
Nothing I can do but tuck and ride and have fun because of how mind blowingly 
moronic I am. Grin. How’s that for mental technique, aye? Kind of gave away my 
physical technique too. Tuck. Elbows too, and head to stem. I relax my hips 
back, roll my back forward and I micro-stand, because if I stand more than 
that, I end up in wheat fields. Micro standing takes more arm work than full 
standing, but still allows for gravity assist via my body weight to aid the 
downstroke enough that it helps. What gear? Whatever gear I’m in. I generally 
do not change gear for the wind until significant climbing/altitude is 
involved, so 72” on the QB, 62” on the Hunqabeam (wet snow necessitates a 
downshift, powder up to 6” does not).

With abandon,
Patrick, too daft to notice the wind much anymore, doesn’t seem to matter if I 
do. Grin.

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[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Patrick Moore]

Spring winds season beginning; winds today moderately brisk at gusts to 30;
but it's also 10* cooler than yesterday, and I was down late last night and
up early this morning for work.

Ride or not to ride? Actually, this is a discussion question. Me, I've
decided not to ride, since I'm tired -- unless I ride to church this
evening.

But the discussion: How do youse handle wind? What do you consider a strong
wind, and where do you stop riding?

I know Dn Patrick rides up glaciated mountain trails with gale-force winds
while smoking a pipe, but I mean more merely mortal (just came up with that
one!) men and mwomen.

I've ridden in 35 mph winds, back when it was warm, I was younger, and
there were multiple gears; in fact I recall one day when winds were gusting
to 45-50 and I was out on my mountain bike: the sorts of wind where you
have to stand to make progress on the flats. Now I think twice if winds
much exceed 20 -- tho' there is dirt riding in the somewhat protected
bosque. I've added middle gears, as well as cruising and bailouts, to the 2
Rivs for this year's winds.

What's your technique, mental as well as physical? What gear? Or do you
take a walk, or just doze by the fire or over your iPad? Me, I'll take a
walk in the bosque.

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[RBW] WTB: Sim Works Little Nick &/or Get Around

[ant ritchey]

Howdy folks,

Helping a friend dial in a cockpit. I love the Sim Works Get Around bar. 
Friend thinks she might dig the Little Nick a little more. I figured I'd 
put a line out here to see if anyone has either of these that they're not 
using.

Sim Works has been sold out of both of these bars for quite some time now.

I have an Ahearne Map 610 in silver I'd be willing to trade or cash is fine 
too. 

Thanks,
Ant R in Portland OR

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[RBW] Touch-up paint for blue Joes?

[Derek Atkins]

Anyone know of a good approach to obtaining and applying touch-up paint for 
the old blue Joe Appaloosas? Pic included for color illustration.
I had a small paint crack I had to file down on my seat lug and I'd like to 
fix it up.



Thanks!

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[RBW] FS: Silver and WI cranks, Nitto bullmoose & chocomoose & billie bars, VO wheelset

[Derek Atkins]

Parts for sales. Will bundle and bundle price if you want. Figure $15-25 
for shipping depending on the item. Paypal, Venmo, Cash, Zelle, carrier 
pigeon, etc. Or I'm in Grand Rapids MI if you are a road tripping kind of 
person. 

Riv Silver brand Triple crankset $175 (used)
White Industries ENO cranks $175 (new... add used 38t ring for $25 more)
Nitto Chocomoose bars $65 (used)
Nitto Bullmoose bars $150 (less than 10 miles use)
Nitto Billie Bars $75 (less than 10 miles use)
Velo Orange 700c wheelset  rim brake (130 rear spaceing) w Sram 10-36 
cassette $200 (all used)
Brake levers $10 (used)



















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Re: [RBW] WTB - 52cm Clem Smith L

[Robert]

Hi Arielle,

I am in Seattle and have a 52 Clem L that my wife used a couple times before 
she got pregnant with our third so it is basically new and nicely set up I can 
send pictures if you are interested still. We would consider selling it if you 
are still interested! DM me. 

R.J.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Hanford Custom (in the Riv / Compass tradition)

['kobe' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I don't know how you stole this one out of Philly Reid, but it looks like 
it went to a good home.  Your setup looks perfect.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Canti Sam Hillborne 51cm, black and cream

[Robert]

I had been looking for exactly this and stopped paying attention to the forum 
for paternity leave. Anybody else have a 51cm Sam they could sell me? Ideally 
just the frame in black. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Canti Sam Hillborne 51cm, black and cream

[phil k]

Sold!

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