Re: [RBW] Long shot: 52 Clem L in Butternut

[Stephen W.]

Lol. Sorry Madam. 


Stephen 

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Re: [RBW] Long shot: 52 Clem L in Butternut

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Hey Ma'am
There has to be one out there that someone is willing to part with.
Jon

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[RBW] Re: King's Crown on Easter Morn

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That makes sense, Andy. Climbing is still work, but it is tra-la-la work on 
Boots. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Long shot: 52 Clem L in Butternut

[Leah Peterson]

Stephen, what is this Ma’am stuff?!?  

I’ve tried most of the dealers, but not the few that either don’t have a 
website or seem to do a lot of business. 

Our preference is absolutely to give the dealers the business. So if a dealer 
is found to have such a bike, we will be on the phone quicker than a jackrabbit 
on a date! Thank you, Friend!

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 6:52 PM, Stephen W.  wrote:
> 
> Ma'am, 
>   Have you attempted to contact all the dealers from Riv's website? 
> 
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/dealers
> 
> I'll keep my feelers out. ✌
> 
> Stephen (@mountnormal)
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[RBW] Long shot: 52 Clem L in Butternut

[Stephen W.]

Ma'am, 
   Have you attempted to contact all the dealers from Riv's website? 

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/dealers

I'll keep my feelers out. ✌

Stephen (@mountnormal)

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[RBW] Re: King's Crown on Easter Morn

[ascpgh]

Tom Teesdale made mine too. It had me in just too much of a Superman posture 
that was not a good starting place if much dynamic riding was dictated by the 
trail. 

A neutral riding stance seems so much better to move from in any direction as 
needed and geometry with a stable climbing behavior instead of feeling like you 
are at a continuous tipping point. The quivering forearms and sense that not a 
single round pedal stroke had occurred throughout most climbing efforts 
discouraged me after collecting and assembling the bike. 

Your wonderfully natural climbing on your new bike was easily recognized by me!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

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[RBW] Long shot: 52 Clem L in Butternut

[REC (Roberta)]

I'm wishing that a butterscotch Clem L comes her way soon.  If not, perhaps she 
could persuade her husband into working from home until July, making his bike 
available for a daily ride?!  :)

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[RBW] WTB: large shopsack

[Drw]

Bumping in case someone has one.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[ted]

Yes, thanks Steve. Very cool.

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[RBW] FS: Switchback Hill tires (650b x 48)

[esoterica etc]

Howdy gang,

I’ve got a pair of Compass Switchback Hills, tan sidewalls with standard 
casing, less than 150 miles on them.  Very good condition, tread is still great 
and never had a flat with them. They were run tubeless, so some slight sealant 
residue. Selling because I want something a wee bit narrower (42-43mm) and a 
wee bit more tread, like the Soma Cazaderos. Asking $100 shipped anywhere in 
the US. Thanks for looking and have a great day!

~Mark 
Raleigh, NC

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand-Cranked Coffee Grinder Recommendation

[Chris L]

I have a skerton and the glass jar is very thick glass and it is overall, 
pretty heavy duty. 

 I rarely use my Aeropress so I don't know what size grind you will be 
shooting for, but the Skerton does a good job for finer grinds.  It's not 
so good for courser grinds, like French Press.  




On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 10:12:03 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote:
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> Thanks again for all of your comments.  After doing way more research than 
> seems necessary, I [think] that I have decided to purchase a Hario Skerton 
> - Pro model.  This seems to offer the best combination of performance and 
> durability at a cost that seems fairly reasonable.  It is a bit larger than 
> the Porlex.  However, it is not so large that I cannot carry it with me on 
> a bicycle camping trip.  I also feel fairly confident that the glass on the 
> Hario grinder is thick enough that durability will not be a problem.
>
> Sean
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19 AM ant ritchey  > wrote:
>
>> Hario Skerton!
>>
>> Was $40 new, been going strong for 7 years now.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:05:47 AM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I will be living in a hotel for three weeks this summer.  As a coffee 
>>> geek, the thought of being forced to drink hotel coffee during this time is 
>>> a bit frightening.  Rather than hopping in a car and driving to a coffee 
>>> shop, my plan is to put together an on-the-go coffee kit that can be used 
>>> for this hotel stay -- as well as future hotel visits and on-the-bike / 
>>> coffee outside adventures.
>>>
>>> I've pretty much decided that the AeroPress coffee kit is going to be my 
>>> go-to coffee maker.  As I will be staying alone, I am after quality of 
>>> coffee rather than volume.  In addition, this seems to provide reasonable 
>>> easy hotel room clean-up, which also seems pretty important.
>>>
>>> I did some searching on the coffee outside threads on this group and 
>>> found several coffee grinders that are often spoke of.  One of them, the 
>>> Porlex Mini, is currently available for about $65. 
>>> Porlex Mini 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Some searching also led to some positive comments for a much less 
>>> expensive JavaPresse grinder ($26)  
>>> JavaPresse 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I'm not opposed to spending money to obtain a quality product.  I am 
>>> just trying to decide if the extra cost of the Porlex grinder is worth it 
>>> in this particular situation.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts / comments / recommendations would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sean
>>> EA, NY
>>>
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[RBW] Long shot: 52 Clem L in Butternut

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Today marks the first day it was warm enough in Mnpls for my sister to do her 7 
mile bike commute. She stole her husband’s Clem L in 59 cm as he wasn’t riding 
it today and it is significantly nicer than her old red Birea. She was nervous 
about being late for work today and nearly talked herself out of biking, but 
for whatever reason, she slammed the saddle and took off down her unfairly 
gorgeous bike superhighway. She called me mid-ride screeching with joy. She was 
effortlessly flying down the road, eating up the miles and was, for the first 
time ever, FAST. She was just delighted and when she was done raving to me, she 
informed her husband she would be the one riding his bike to work now. He 
objected but encouraged her to purchase her own Rivendell Clem L. 

You guys. I have checked everywhere and RBW and their dealers are OUT of 52s. 
718 initially told us they had a Butternut in 52, but alas, turns out it was 
the Clem H. Butternut is her absolute favorite color. Which brings me to this.

Does anyone have a like-new butternut 52 Clem L that they might part with? 
She’s a little skittish about buying used and trusting someone with this much 
cash, but I think you’re good folks. If not, she’ll probably get one later this 
summer in whatever color is offered. But July is a long time to wait. 

Thanks!
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[ted]

Enough about the brakes.
Now please tell us all about those down tube shifters.

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[RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

[masmojo]

I didn't really read those thumbnails before, because (at least on my computer) 
the photos & attachments are never "clickable", in other words I can't pull 
them out & enbiggen them to read them without enlarging the whole web page.
If you follow the copy down the rabbit hole it does mention 2 (or 3?) Other 
bikes!? Seems ambitious! Still, the double toptube mixte would seem to be the 
fabled 25 anniversary bike.
Fingers crossed!

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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 4/24/19 3:34 PM, phil k wrote:
My one dislike for the Rene Herse cantis are the roller yokes. They 
are bulky and take more real estate and interfere with the fork crown 
mount of a rack, they are also finicky to set up considering the rest 
of the brakes are a breeze to set up. I had to use a more traditional 
yoke like your second picture to get more clearance on traditional 
Nitto rando racks.



Admittedly, I didn't set mine up, the LBS did - but unlike some other 
roller yokes where have to cut the cable to exact length with these you 
just put the cable through the hole and fasten it. And, of course, 
although the rollers come with the brakes they're not required, you can 
use any yoke.



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[RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

[Garth]

There was some about it here  
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rbw-owners-bunch/Ya-zjaUyqcw/FtFuGNm1AgAJ 
. 

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[RBW] Mystery bike in April Blahg

[masmojo]

Interestingly, the file name for that is F25for_blahg_grande which kind of 
confirms my suspicions.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[phil k]

My one dislike for the Rene Herse cantis are the roller yokes. They are 
bulky and take more real estate and interfere with the fork crown mount of 
a rack, they are also finicky to set up considering the rest of the brakes 
are a breeze to set up. I had to use a more traditional yoke like your 
second picture to get more clearance on traditional Nitto rando racks.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 1:59:07 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 4/24/19 1:30 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Darin: I daresay you are wary before being weary of cantilever advice. 
>
> All: General question: What are the respective benefits and defects of 
> high profile and low profile cantilever brakes?
>
>
> Biggest benefit to low profile cantilevers is their low profile: less 
> likely to interfere with feet, bags, etc.  Biggest drawbacks to low profile 
> cantilevers are tricky setup, sensitivity to straddle cable height, 
> geometry works against you as you get closer to the rim.
>
> Flip those for mid-profile.  Drawbacks, Possible interference w/bags & big 
> feet | small frames, benefits easier setup in that not sensitive to 
> straddle cable height.  
>
>
>
> Which style, and which make/model of that style, would you (singly) 
> choose, and why?
>
>
> I like the mid-profile cantilever brakes.  My new bike was designed to use 
> the Rene Herse cantilevers and built by a master craftsman and they're 
> simply brilliant.  The aesthetics are amazing: beautiful, almost 
> jewel-like; as simple and minimalistic as it is possible to be; they weigh 
> next to nothing; there's virtually nothing to adjust; and they work and 
> feel just great, better than any other cantilever I've ever used before.  
> And they don't squeal, either.  With a frame my size, there are no concerns 
> about hitting bags or feet.  The classic solution to supporting a front 
> rack was designed for just these brakes.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
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[RBW] Mystery bike in April Blahg

[masmojo]

Grant posted the drawing with no explanation and every time I look at it I scan 
the page looking for an explanation!? AND Nobody has mentioned anything about 
it .  . . 
So . . . here I go . . . 
Looks like the Gus Boots in side profile, until you realize it's got a twin 
curved top tube? Is it possible this is the "anniversary" bike? 
Kinda what the internet calls an "Easter egg" these dayz? Maybe?

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Mike Williams]

Hey Reid,  I gave the builder the forks specs ( of the older Joe App,  I 
believe V2 has a slightly beefier fork) and he said it was ok.  

Jeff,  Walt from Waltworks did the mods.   Awesome to deal with.  $150 total 
for front/  rear tabs.  I did not have the canti studs removed,  also no cable 
guides added.   This would’ve increased price by a little.   I just used the 
canti posts/ rack brazeons and some zip ties to keep housing in place.   Works 
pretty good.  I’ll post some pics when I get a chance.   To my eye, the 
discs don’t seem out of place at all on the Joe and I prefer them for the 
rainy/ cold weather.  -Mike

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 2:06 PM, sameness  wrote:
> 
> +1. If I may ask, who performed the mods? Apologies if you already posted 
> them somewhere, but any chance I/we can see some better detail pics? This may 
> be my MIT Atlantis tipping point.
> 
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 10:51:43 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>> Wow Mike, very cool. Probably opens up some very nice lightweight wheel 
>> options with the discs. Did you have a new fork made, or did the builder 
>> deem the Joe sufficiently burly for the mod? Asking for a friend...
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Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Friend]

The Portland problem is so real, and the Spring Water Corridor can be super 
sketchy.  I almost got jumped there once.  My brother and I parked our 
bikes by the MODA Center for a few hours one evening.  We knew it was 
sketchy.  We brought every lock we had and had our wheels, frames, seats, 
all secure to eacht others bike and to the rack.  We come back to find my 
brother grips were stolen...

The biggest suggestion I have for bike security is, unfortunately, don't 
lock up your rivendel on the sidewalk.  That's why I am keeping my 1999 
spray painted Trek 520.  One more thing.  Put ball bearings in all your 
allen wrench bolts.  Smear them in there with wax.  They are hard to get 
out without melting the wax.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 12:15:56 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
>
> Portland has had a real problem with bike theft. About the best you can do 
> is to make your bike more  inconvenient to steal than the next guys. 
>
> Suggestions:
>
> 1. Get the best lock you can and always take it with you. I like the Abus 
> Bordo Granit plus 9500 because it’s very strong and since it folds up and 
> goes in a carrier it’s always with me. Plus heaven forbid I need it, it’s a 
> close quarter self defense weapon. On the Springwater trail there were 
> stories of cyclists being forced off their bikes and “bike jacked” 
> especially women cyclists. 
>
> 2. Never leave your bike outside at night, locked or not. With a battery 
> powered angle grinder a thief can cut any lock or even most staples pretty 
> quickly and be off with your bike.  If people are around they are unlikely 
> to be so bold. 
>
> 3.  If you keep your bike in a garage or shed install an anchor and lock 
> it up there as well. Sheds and garages are frequent targets of bike thieves 
> and are soft targets. 
>
> I commute by bike daily. When we lived in Portland I was able to park in a 
> bike corral (which had actually been robbed when someone got the 
> combination) but I got called up for jury duty which meant parking on the 
> sidewalk in an area with a lot of dodgy characters. 
>
> So I used an Abus U lock on the front wheel and triangle, my Abus Bordo 
> 9500 on the rear wheel
> and triangle and an Abus Bordo 6000 and cable for my seat. 
>
> But the most important thing was I parked next to the space reserved for 
> motorcycle cops!
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:44 AM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Erl: I'll happily photograph the chain lock, padlock, and rubber sheath, 
>> but it will have to wait until I next ride to Sprout's, and I will have to 
>> remember to do so.
>>
>> Basically, it's just heavy thick towing chain, ~3 feet, slipped into a 
>> section of 2" mtb tube, and locked with one of these:
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Best, Patrick
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:43 PM WETH > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>> I have created an image in my mind of Towing chain securing your bike at 
>>> Sprouts, but I would love a photo that also captures the tube covering the 
>>> chain. 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Erl
>>> Kensington, MD
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[RBW] Re: King's Crown on Easter Morn

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Andy! I searched and found this, so I had an idea of what a Kona Hot is: 
http://cog.konaworld.com/tag/kona-hot/

Interestingly, it doesn't look as snug in the geometry as many bikes I see. 
Fascinating that it rode so poorly on the inclines. Of course, my eye for 
geometry is doubtless poor. Grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Will]

Abus mini U-lock for frame. Pitlocks for wheels and seat post. The U-lock 
is light and compact. The Pits weigh less than my regular skewers. 

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-5, Cinza wrote:
>
> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves 
> as of late. 
>  What locks do you like and why? 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[masmojo]

The old barrel key locks are easily defeated with the barrel of a Bic pen. 
Fortunately, you don't see the pens that were ideally suited for that much 
anymore & really who even uses pens very much nowadays anyway? So in reality 
these locks are probably safer than they were 20 years ago.

I believe a multipronged approach to locking is best. I use the biggest 
beefyest lock I can conjure at work and leave it permanently locked to the 
rack. For day to day errands I use either a middle weight Kryptonite chain or 
the Abus folding link thingy. Those are both middle security locks & will deter 
all but the "serious" bike thief.
For my bikes that are not "thief bait" or if I am just popping in & out of 
somewhere. I'll sometimes use a coiling cable lock (although these just keep 
someone from jumping on the bike & riding off & are easily defeated with bolt 
cutters (which is how I lost my Rosco)) or a little Odessey light weight U lock 
I recently got.
Horses for the courses as they say.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 58 Ram on EBay

[Sean Steinle]

post of the week, lol

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 11:24:09 AM UTC-5, John McBurney wrote:
>
> I’ve heard 6 fingers can be a problem. 
>
> https://images.app.goo.gl/2cctQ9QbPdy3Y6ybA
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:02 PM sameness > 
> wrote:
>
>> I scaled the photos and figured out it was indeed a 58cm, sent an offer 
>> because I need it like a sixth finger, and then somebody else nabbed it. 
>>
>> Bikes. Shrug.
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 4:24:27 AM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
>>> Whew!  I was struggling not to buy this and held firm with:  What does 
>>> this have that my 1972 LeChampion cannot do?”  I’m glad it is over. 
>>>
>>> Did anyone here buy it? 
>>>
>>> Best regards, 
>>> Matt B 
>>> Oswego, IL
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[sameness]

+1. If I may ask, who performed the mods? Apologies if you already posted 
them somewhere, but any chance I/we can see some better detail pics? This 
may be my MIT Atlantis tipping point.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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> Wow Mike, very cool. Probably opens up some very nice lightweight wheel 
> options with the discs. Did you have a new fork made, or did the builder 
> deem the Joe sufficiently burly for the mod? Asking for a friend...

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[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

[Brian Campbell]

On a Riv related note: 

I live in SE PA outside Philadelphia. Most drivers are pretty nice but I 
would get the occasional " Get off the road" etc. until... I started riding 
with the Riv reflective triangle on the saddle bag of my bike. Now in no 
way is there anything scientific about this but since I have been using it, 
almost 3 years now, I have not had another incident of yelling etc. Not 
sure why but it seems to be working. I wondered if it made look so unlike 
(less serious) than the other road cyclists out there that somehow it 
differentiated me, so as not cause anger? Weird but true.


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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Reid Echols]

Wow Mike, very cool. Probably opens up some very nice lightweight wheel options 
with the discs. Did you have a new fork made, or did the builder deem the Joe 
sufficiently burly for the mod? Asking for a friend...

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Mike Williams]

Hey Tom,  thank you!   Rims are Velocity Blunt SS/ tires are 29x2.25 Rocket 
Rons/ I think the fenders are planet bike cascadia 29er fenders.   I had disc 
tabs put on the bike which allows me to run the Blunt SS.   Really loving the 
JoeApp

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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 12:54 PM, tom coppedge  wrote:
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> Mike, awesome Joe setup!  What rims, tires and fenders (make, width) are you 
> running?  Also, Is that a Wavie bar?
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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Patrick Moore]

Darin: I daresay you are wary before being weary of cantilever advice.

All: General question: What are the respective benefits and defects of high
profile and low profile cantilever brakes?

Which style, and which make/model of that style, would you (singly) choose,
and why?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:24 AM DarinM  wrote:

> ...I'm weary of any claim that a given high quality cantilever brake is
> objectively better than the rest.
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[RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[DarinM]

This is a good take. I'm weary of any claim that a given high quality 
cantilever brake is objectively better than the rest. Of the high quality 
options, pick one that fits your frame requirements, aesthetics, and/or 
mechanical aptitude. Even the lower quality ones can be coaxed to work well 
enough.

I avoided smooth post type for a while but came into a nice set for very 
cheap that fit my builds aesthetics (Shimano M373). I've figured out how to 
set them up properly and now they work as well or better than any other 
model I've used.

Darin

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>
> The best cantilever brake is a pretty broad topic & all the ones mentioned 
> here are great, but I  personally like first generation Shimano XTR cantis 
> myself. I think they only made them 1 or 2 years before switching to V 
> brakes, but they are quite pretty, light, strong and stop good. You can 
> pick them up used on Ebay. I've got a couple extra sets stashed away. Used 
> sets can be pricey, but sub $60 is very fair. Will likely need new pads.

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[RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[masmojo]

The best cantilever brake is a pretty broad topic & all the ones mentioned here 
are great, but I  personally like first generation Shimano XTR cantis myself. I 
think they only made them 1 or 2 years before switching to V brakes, but they 
are quite pretty, light, strong and stop good. You can pick them up used on 
Ebay. I've got a couple extra sets stashed away. Used sets can be pricey, but 
sub $60 is very fair. Will likely need new pads.

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[tom coppedge]

Mike, awesome Joe setup!  What rims, tires and fenders (make, width) are
you running?  Also, Is that a Wavie bar?

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: 58 Ram on EBay

[John McBurney]

I’ve heard 6 fingers can be a problem.

https://images.app.goo.gl/2cctQ9QbPdy3Y6ybA

John

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:02 PM sameness  wrote:

> I scaled the photos and figured out it was indeed a 58cm, sent an offer
> because I need it like a sixth finger, and then somebody else nabbed it.
>
> Bikes. Shrug.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 4:24:27 AM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>> Whew!  I was struggling not to buy this and held firm with:  What does
>> this have that my 1972 LeChampion cannot do?”  I’m glad it is over.
>>
>> Did anyone here buy it?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Matt B
>> Oswego, IL
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[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[John Phillips]

   If you choose to use a Kryptonite U-lock, be sure to read the 
maintenance info. IIRC, Kryptonite recommends using a chain lube containing 
silicon, Teflon or graphite to prevent corrosion and/or rust.  I've read 
complaints from commuters whose locks failed in a month because their bikes 
were locked up outside in wet weather.

>From the Kryptonite FAQ manual from the FAQ page:


   1. 
   
   CARE & MAINTENANCE 
   
   Lubricate the lock several times a year to keep the lock in its best 
   working condition. Always use a lubricant that has only a silicone, 
   graphite orTeflon base. Face the lock cylinder upright and spray or pour 
   the lubricant into the cylinder. Let it sit for 5 minutes. Place a rag on 
   the workstation and turn the lock over onto the rag for a few minutes. 
   
   Note: Do not use WD-40! WD-40 is a solvent, not a lubricant and will 
   remove lubricant in the cylinder. 
   

   I use 2 - Abus 540 U-locks around town, or Tigr Mini+'s if I'm a few 
feet away getting a sandwich or coffee, but after seeing that video of 24" 
bolt cutters making short work of a Tigr Mini, I doubt I'll use them again.

John

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cinza wrote:
>
> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves 
> as of late. 
>  What locks do you like and why? 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: 58 Ram on EBay

[sameness]

I scaled the photos and figured out it was indeed a 58cm, sent an offer 
because I need it like a sixth finger, and then somebody else nabbed it. 

Bikes. Shrug.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 4:24:27 AM UTC-7, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> Whew!  I was struggling not to buy this and held firm with:  What does 
> this have that my 1972 LeChampion cannot do?”  I’m glad it is over. 
>
> Did anyone here buy it? 
>
> Best regards, 
> Matt B 
> Oswego, IL

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[sameness]

Karl! I do miss that frame, but so glad she's back out on the the road! 
Probably the most stable, well-mannered roadie I've owned.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 6:27:48 AM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>
> Did a little horse trading over the winter with Sameness. Jeff, I finally 
> got her together (well actually I gave up on time, and let me local shop 
> get her all together!) First decent ride yesterday, and all I can dream 
> about today is taking her back out. Rivendell Road Custom in 59cm. Wish I 
> could find 4 more Baggins bags like this one... 
>
> Karl 
> Nashville, TN
>
> [image: uctChnaURoSDX+VnCjVjWA.jpg]
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

['C.Wilson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you for the comprehensive answer. I agree on parking inside whenever 
possible.



> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Lynn Haas  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know those barrel-key locks were even around anymore! Be aware that 
> combination cable locks are also super easy to open. Any lock can be defeated 
> with the right tools and a little time. I've heard it said that the easiest 
> way to steal a bike is to go in broad daylight with an orange safety vest and 
> power tools.
> 
> When we bought our first house 10 years ago, a previous resident had left a 
> barrel-key U-lock locked up to a patio rail. Our real estate agent kept 
> making a big deal about the seller removing the lock before we closed on the 
> house. She couldn't believe me when I said not to worry, I would deal with 
> it. 
> 
> The best lock is on the front door. I have arranged inside parking at every 
> job I've ever had, and at university I was able to rent a bike locker for 
> $60/year. Bike lockers are marvelous.
> 
> For outside parking, I use a modern flat-key U-lock (I own a Kryptonite but I 
> usually use an OnGuard borrowed from work because it's about 2 pounds 
> lighter) and a keyed cable lock for the wheels. I once came back to my bike 
> to find the cable lock cut 1/2 way through. I guess the would-be thief got 
> that far, saw the U-lock, and moved on to the next bike.
> 
> I tried a TIGR Mini. It was phenomenally light in weight and seemed very 
> secure, but it was too small to easily fit around my wheel or frame + most 
> bike racks. I think that it would be OK for a skinny road bike.
> 
> Good technique is important. Make sure you lock the frame and not just one 
> wheel. It's ridiculously easy to release a front wheel, take the unlocked 
> frame, grab an unlocked front wheel off of another bike, assemble the two, 
> and ride away. Lots of fun to demo for a crowd, too. If you set it up right 
> it only takes about 30 seconds.
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[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Lynn Haas]

I didn't know those barrel-key locks were even around anymore! Be aware 
that combination cable locks are also super easy to open. Any lock can be 
defeated with the right tools and a little time. I've heard it said that 
the easiest way to steal a bike is to go in broad daylight with an orange 
safety vest and power tools.

When we bought our first house 10 years ago, a previous resident had left a 
barrel-key U-lock locked up to a patio rail. Our real estate agent kept 
making a big deal about the seller removing the lock before we closed on 
the house. She couldn't believe me when I said not to worry, I would deal 
with it. 

The best lock is on the front door. I have arranged inside parking at every 
job I've ever had, and at university I was able to rent a bike locker for 
$60/year. Bike lockers are marvelous.

For outside parking, I use a modern flat-key U-lock (I own a Kryptonite but 
I usually use an OnGuard borrowed from work because it's about 2 pounds 
lighter) and a keyed cable lock for the wheels. I once came back to my bike 
to find the cable lock cut 1/2 way through. I guess the would-be thief got 
that far, saw the U-lock, and moved on to the next bike.

I tried a TIGR Mini. It was phenomenally light in weight and seemed very 
secure, but it was too small to easily fit around my wheel or frame + most 
bike racks. I think that it would be OK for a skinny road bike.

Good technique is important. Make sure you lock the frame and not just one 
wheel. It's ridiculously easy to release a front wheel, take the unlocked 
frame, grab an unlocked front wheel off of another bike, assemble the two, 
and ride away. Lots of fun to demo for a crowd, too. If you set it up right 
it only takes about 30 seconds.

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[R Shannon]

Karl, that’s a beauty. Good horse trading! Enjoy the ride:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL

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> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Karl  wrote:
> 
> Did a little horse trading over the winter with Sameness. Jeff, I finally got 
> her together (well actually I gave up on time, and let me local shop get her 
> all together!) First decent ride yesterday, and all I can dream about today 
> is taking her back out. Rivendell Road Custom in 59cm. Wish I could find 4 
> more Baggins bags like this one... 
> 
> Karl 
> Nashville, TN
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand-Cranked Coffee Grinder Recommendation

[Sean McAtee]

Thanks again for all of your comments.  After doing way more research than
seems necessary, I [think] that I have decided to purchase a Hario Skerton
- Pro model.  This seems to offer the best combination of performance and
durability at a cost that seems fairly reasonable.  It is a bit larger than
the Porlex.  However, it is not so large that I cannot carry it with me on
a bicycle camping trip.  I also feel fairly confident that the glass on the
Hario grinder is thick enough that durability will not be a problem.

Sean

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19 AM ant ritchey 
wrote:

> Hario Skerton!
>
> Was $40 new, been going strong for 7 years now.
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:05:47 AM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will be living in a hotel for three weeks this summer.  As a coffee
>> geek, the thought of being forced to drink hotel coffee during this time is
>> a bit frightening.  Rather than hopping in a car and driving to a coffee
>> shop, my plan is to put together an on-the-go coffee kit that can be used
>> for this hotel stay -- as well as future hotel visits and on-the-bike /
>> coffee outside adventures.
>>
>> I've pretty much decided that the AeroPress coffee kit is going to be my
>> go-to coffee maker.  As I will be staying alone, I am after quality of
>> coffee rather than volume.  In addition, this seems to provide reasonable
>> easy hotel room clean-up, which also seems pretty important.
>>
>> I did some searching on the coffee outside threads on this group and
>> found several coffee grinders that are often spoke of.  One of them, the
>> Porlex Mini, is currently available for about $65.
>> Porlex Mini
>> 
>>
>> Some searching also led to some positive comments for a much less
>> expensive JavaPresse grinder ($26)
>> JavaPresse
>> 
>>
>> I'm not opposed to spending money to obtain a quality product.  I am just
>> trying to decide if the extra cost of the Porlex grinder is worth it in
>> this particular situation.
>>
>> Any thoughts / comments / recommendations would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> EA, NY
>>
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[RBW] Re: 58cm Rambouillet

[Jonathan D.]

I sent a private message. Let me l know if it didn’t go through. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: SOMA Fabrications San Marcos - 58cm

[Robb Myer]

Correction: according to the SOMA spec sheet the frame size is 59cm rather 
than 58cm.

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:16:10 PM UTC-4, Robb Myer wrote:
>
> Tiburon Blue, sport touring road frame designed by Rivendell's Grant 
> Petersen. This is a fine ride on black top, smooth trails and light loaded 
> touring (i.e. week long event and credit card tours). Features include 
> Tange Prestige heated treated CrMo steel frame with genuine Rivendell lugs 
> and Tange Infinity CrMo steel fork. Includes Brooks B-17 leather saddle, 
> Shimano and Sakae drive train, Tektro R559 brakeset, Michelin Dynamic white 
> sidewall tires, Jandd handle bar and seat bags, kickstand, full size frame 
> pump, cyclometer, bell, two water bottle cages with water bottles. 
>
> asking price: $1275
> condition: excellent
> frame size: 58 cm
> manufacturer: SOMA Fabrications
> model: San Marcos
> location: Hampton, VA
> pack/ship: at buyers expense. 
>
> [image: SomaFab_SanMaros_01_600x450.jpg][image: 
> SomaFab_SanMaros_04_600x450.jpg][image: SomaFab_SanMaros_02_600x450.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Cinza]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:18:31 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> I was just the other night looking at a couple of youtube videos that 
> showed the TiGr mini (1) being picked in less than 30 seconds, and (2) 
> being cut with bolt cutters also in a matter of seconds.
> On 4/24/19 12:04 AM, Doug Bloch wrote:
>
> I have the TiGr mini and I love it.
> https://www.tigrlock.com/
>
> I also using security bolts on my wheels, stem, seatpost, and saddle I bought 
> from Wabi Cycles.
>
> Doug 
>
>
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Cinza]

Thank You, this is most helpful .  . (I'm guessing it is a barrel  if it 
looks like a barrel?  I got my last one 7-8 years ago, round key)

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:26:09 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> But Kryptonite hasn't used barrel keys locks in many years.  The "barrel 
> of a ball point pen" vulnerability dates back to the early 2000s, and their 
> locks haven't used cylindrical keys in certainly the last decade or more.
> On 4/23/19 11:13 PM, Cinza wrote:
>
> Definitely going to check Pitlocks, but the  reason I asked about locks is 
> my bike mechanic just informed kryptonite locks are no longer safe, bike 
> thieves seem to have an easy technique for the barrel key locks. 
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 7:57:30 PM UTC-7, David Bivins wrote: 
>>
>> With the pitlocks and a Kryptonite u-lock, you can put a mount on your 
>> bike for carrying the u-lock and you don't have to worry about chains and 
>> cables. The weight is integrated into your frame, kinda. It's also really 
>> ugly. 
>> There's another lock/chain combo called the Hiplok - the chain integrates 
>> a plastic clip so that you can wear the chain/padlock combo as a belt. It's 
>> not uncomfortable for me. But it's heavy. I bring it sometimes when I don't 
>> know what the lockable situation will be, or as an extra lock when we're 
>> biking as a family.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:28 PM Cinza  wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder if there will be some really good lightweight locks one of these 
>>> days.  I hate hauling a basket full of chains, cables and  locks.
>>>
>>> -- 
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Steve Palincsar]

But Kryptonite hasn't used barrel keys locks in many years.  The "barrel 
of a ball point pen" vulnerability dates back to the early 2000s, and 
their locks haven't used cylindrical keys in certainly the last decade 
or more.


On 4/23/19 11:13 PM, Cinza wrote:
Definitely going to check Pitlocks, but the  reason I asked about 
locks is my bike mechanic just informed kryptonite locks are no longer 
safe, bike thieves seem to have an easy technique for the barrel key 
locks.


On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 7:57:30 PM UTC-7, David Bivins wrote:

With the pitlocks and a Kryptonite u-lock, you can put a mount on
your bike for carrying the u-lock and you don't have to worry
about chains and cables. The weight is integrated into your frame,
kinda. It's also really ugly.
There's another lock/chain combo called the Hiplok - the chain
integrates a plastic clip so that you can wear the chain/padlock
combo as a belt. It's not uncomfortable for me. But it's heavy. I
bring it sometimes when I don't know what the lockable situation
will be, or as an extra lock when we're biking as a family.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:28 PM Cinza > wrote:

Wonder if there will be some really good lightweight locks one
of these days.  I hate hauling a basket full of chains, cables
and  locks.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Steve Palincsar]

I was just the other night looking at a couple of youtube videos that 
showed the TiGr mini (1) being picked in less than 30 seconds, and (2) 
being cut with bolt cutters also in a matter of seconds.


On 4/24/19 12:04 AM, Doug Bloch wrote:

I have the TiGr mini and I love it.

https://www.tigrlock.com/

I also using security bolts on my wheels, stem, seatpost, and saddle I bought 
from Wabi Cycles.

Doug


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Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?

[Thomas Blak]

If you are taking about the round keys from Kryptonite, they were phased 
out well over a decade ago and even then, not all were opened easily. I 
could never open the three I owned at the time using the pen method.Take 
your mechanics advice with a grain of salt. Kryptonite and ABUS are the two 
leading companies for bike locks and they are for a reason. 

The Lock Picking Lawyer has a YouTube channel where he just picks locks. I 
watch these because of the entertainment value but he is very good at what 
he does. Have a look at the lock he chooses for his own bicycle. More 
importantly listen to why he chose that particular lock. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpVOTEOMRuE






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[RBW] Re: 58 Ram on EBay

[Matt Beecher]

Whew!  I was struggling not to buy this and held firm with:  What does this 
have that my 1972 LeChampion cannot do?”  I’m glad it is over. 

Did anyone here buy it?

Best regards,
Matt B
Oswego, IL

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Choco Bars

[tc]

I have a new, never-mounted Billie bar I’ll sell. Contact me off list if you’re 
still interested. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Choco Bars

[tc]

Hey, 
I have a choco bar that’s never been mounted I’ll sell. Contact me off list if 
you’re still interested. Riv sells them for $92. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: King's Crown on Easter Morn

[ascpgh]

Complete opposite of a Kona Hot I built for myself BITD. It seemed like an 
assertive road racer’s take on an off road bike, optimizing rider position for 
long high output pedaling but not for terrain of much challenge.

That bike was tippy fore and aft on climbs out of the saddle like those you 
describe and show yourself riding seated. I’d not had an off road bike that was 
so oddly challenging at trail riding and it (and a couple of moves) snuffed my 
interest for a good while. Trail riding shouldn’t  be as hard as that bike made 
it. 

Selling that thing to a loving buyer funded my Rambouillet, which is a better 
trail bike than most late NORBA geometry MTBs.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh 

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