[RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Ash]

Had planned on attending.  This week my wife's aunt said she and her family 
are visiting us that weekend :(  can't make it..

You guys have fun!


On Monday, 8 July 2019 14:43:20 UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Chaingang, 
>
> Coming up Real Soon Now is the RBW25 weekend at Samuel Taylor State Park - 
>
> Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 2pm Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 12pm PDT 
> Devil's Gulch Group Site 1&2 
> http://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com 
>
> - And while we can thank Justin in Oakland for laying the groundwork 
> of the event (read: HE RESERVED US THE GROUP SITES), it's going to be 
> up to each of us to make it happen! 
>
> So: Who is planning to attend? What level of riding are you hoping 
> for? What ideas or adventures would you like to have? 
>
> Speaking for myself, I can only make it over for Friday (will stay 
> over in camp) and Saturday riding. I'd like to make a ride from camp 
> around the Pine Mountain Loop, and then either return to camp via 
> BoFax / Bolinas Ridge OR, down into Fairfax via Repack. 
>
> I think it'll be "each-their-own" in terms of food, but it might also 
> be fun/nice to bring something to share for (either) evening? 
>
> Let's hear some enthusiasm and make this happen! 
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>

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[RBW] Life is better after 35

[George Schick]

35mm tires, that is.  The weather this Spring in much of the Midwest has 
made for difficult bicycle riding on limestone trails.  There have been 
numerous deep ruts, muddy puddles, and loose fine gravel from wash-outs due 
to heavy rains.  So I decided to switch from the regular 32mm Pasela's to 
this 
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/equipment/cycling-components/bike-tires/hybrid-bike-tires/bontrager-connection-hybrid-tire/p/02499/
 
35mm "hybrid" tire and the difference has been dramatic.  Not only has the 
wider tire made riding more tolerable, but the smallish knobs on the tires 
have made riding through sections of loose fine gravel much more 
manageable.  And they're relatively cheap at under $20 and relatively light 
weight weight as well.  Just sayin'


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[RBW] FS: Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross

[Eric Karnes]

Hi all-


This is the final bike to sell before my move to England. This is 
cross-listed with the iBob. I know it’s not a traditional Riv, but many on 
this list are hearty supporters of Mike and Black Mountain Cycles. The 
bikes are steel, the ride is excellent, the geometry allows the handlebars 
to get up fairly high (even with a treadless setup), the drivetrain is 
pretty Riv-ish, and other than my Rivs, this BMC is the only bike I’ve 
owned that didn’t feel twitchy with drop bars. As such, I hope nobody has 
any objection to me listing it here…


I would like to sell the entire bike for obvious reasons. But if there are 
no initial takers, I would be open to selling only the frame, wheels, and 
brakes (and parting out the rest). The bike is about six months old. I put 
in my deposit a month before I found out I would be moving overseas. I 
received it in January and have been riding it off and on since the 
beginning of the spring. Like all BMCs, it rides great, but a serious 
multi-surface bike like this won’t be as useful for the kind of riding I’ll 
be doing across the pond. For reference, my PBH is 90cm. I ride a 62cm 
SimpleOne and a 63cm Hilsen. It fits me very much like the 62cm SimpleOne, 
but due to the sloping top tube would be great for someone slightly shorter 
as well. The saddle height in the photos is 79.125 inches and the 
handlebars are about an inch-ish above saddle height (with room to go 
higher if desired). Condition is like new, not a scratch on it that I can 
see. The full geometry and technical details can be found here:


https://blackmtncycles.com/tech-info/mcd-frame-tech/


New BMC Monstercross Disc frames go for 700 and Mike’s standard builds go 
for 2700. I’m asking the following:

$1450: Complete with the following build (Note: pedals, saddle, bags, and 
bottles/cages not included):


Frame: 56cm Black Mountain Cycles MCD 

Headset: Cane Creek 40

Wheelset: Shimano 105 Hubs to WTB KOM Tubeless compatible (hand-built by 
Mike at BMC)

Tires: Compass Steilacoom 38mm (Very Light Use)

Cassette: XT 9sp

Rear Derailleur: Deore 9sp

Chain: SRAM 10sp

Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN-55

Crankset: Sugino XD Low Double with Chainguard

Chainring: Wolftooth 40t

Front Derailleur: None

Brakes: Shimano R317 Mechanical Disc Calipers with Shimano 160mm Rotors

Brake Levers: Shimano Tiagra

Shifters: Shimano 9sp Dura Ace Barends

Stem: Dimension 60mm w/ Spacers

Handlebar: Salsa Cowbell 2 44cm

Tape: Black Newbaums

Seatpost: Kalloy Silver


All of the above parts were purchased new with the frame with the exception 
of the crankset and seatpost. The current setup is obviously 1x, but I can 
provide two options depending on your preference:

(1) Shimano bar-ends (both L and R included), Wolf-tooth ring w/ Sugino 
chainguard, and no front derailleur, or…

(2) Shimano bar-ends (both L and R included), Standard Sugino wide-low 
rings (40 and 26t) and chainguard, and Deore front derailleur (uninstalled)


Photos here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/35128198@N02/albums/72157709524085561


Bike will be well-packed and shipped and insured via BikeFlights at buyer’s 
expense. (FYI: It’s not yet packed, so I’ll need a week together a box and 
get it done properly). Any questions, feel free to PM me. Thanks for 
looking!


Eric

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[RBW] Re: "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[Johnny Alien]

I seem to remember a Blahg not so long ago in which Grant spoke about them 
fearing about the lug manufacturing stopping.  I remember he said that they 
worked out something that made him feel a bit better.  A huge stockpile of 
lugs or something? I can't remember but I do think this was a concern so I 
am not shocked if it's true.

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 6:30:36 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I don't know anything about the details, or even if it is true.  If it is 
> true, that sounds pretty scary for Rivendell, unless they've known about it 
> and are proactively transitioning over to more lugless work.  Or maybe they 
> have stocked up.  That's Rivendell's lug supplier.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 12:19:27 PM UTC-7, M Talley wrote:
>>
>> I wondered if anyone here knew of this or more about the circumstances of 
>> the closing of Long Shen?
>> https://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/fnl-531-a-52498.html
>> I stumbled on this info while searching for the meaning of R. 
>> Sachs B.I.F.I.™ . . .  YAS - Yet Another Sachsism
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[dougP]

Can't make the event (heavy sigh) but I bought the patch anyway.  Looks 
good & I couldn't resist the biketinker one as well.  

I wish everyone a good time this weekend, and expect to see photos of the 
action.

doug

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 3:42:18 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Coincidentally, I just ordered the commemorative patches to be made. Get 
> them on Etsy: https://etsy.me/2L9smrG 
>
> I can’t add an image from my phone, but the patch is a riff on the Riv 
> logo, and a Reader-style headline that plays off the Rivendell slogan. 
>
> Note: Grant approved the production of these, and my goal is to cover 
> costs and donate profits and unsold patches to Rivendell at or after the 
> Rivmoot (aka Fellowship of the Rigs). 
>
> Thanks a ton, 
> Philip

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[RBW] RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Philip Williamson]

Coincidentally, I just ordered the commemorative patches to be made. Get them 
on Etsy: https://etsy.me/2L9smrG

I can’t add an image from my phone, but the patch is a riff on the Riv logo, 
and a Reader-style headline that plays off the Rivendell slogan. 

Note: Grant approved the production of these, and my goal is to cover costs and 
donate profits and unsold patches to Rivendell at or after the Rivmoot (aka 
Fellowship of the Rigs). 

Thanks a ton,
Philip

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[RBW] Re: "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[Bill Lindsay]

I don't know anything about the details, or even if it is true.  If it is 
true, that sounds pretty scary for Rivendell, unless they've known about it 
and are proactively transitioning over to more lugless work.  Or maybe they 
have stocked up.  That's Rivendell's lug supplier.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 12:19:27 PM UTC-7, M Talley wrote:
>
> I wondered if anyone here knew of this or more about the circumstances of 
> the closing of Long Shen?
> https://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/fnl-531-a-52498.html
> I stumbled on this info while searching for the meaning of R. 
> Sachs B.I.F.I.™ . . .  YAS - Yet Another Sachsism
>

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[RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

[Ian A]

If using a Shimano sealed bottom bracket with the plastic spacer, check the 
spacer is not cracked. A cracked spacer can cause a rhythmic click.

IanA

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[RBW] RBW at 25: The Fellowship of the Rigs

[Joe Bunik]

Chaingang,

Coming up Real Soon Now is the RBW25 weekend at Samuel Taylor State Park -

Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 2pm Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 12pm PDT
Devil's Gulch Group Site 1&2
http://rbwxxv.eventbrite.com

- And while we can thank Justin in Oakland for laying the groundwork
of the event (read: HE RESERVED US THE GROUP SITES), it's going to be
up to each of us to make it happen!

So: Who is planning to attend? What level of riding are you hoping
for? What ideas or adventures would you like to have?

Speaking for myself, I can only make it over for Friday (will stay
over in camp) and Saturday riding. I'd like to make a ride from camp
around the Pine Mountain Loop, and then either return to camp via
BoFax / Bolinas Ridge OR, down into Fairfax via Repack.

I think it'll be "each-their-own" in terms of food, but it might also
be fun/nice to bring something to share for (either) evening?

Let's hear some enthusiasm and make this happen!
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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[RBW] Tweed Bags

['Robert Latson' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi List, I am looking for the bigger Nigel Smythe bags.
A country bag, large loafer, and Boxy Bar Bag. 
All in tweed, Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal click driving me batty

[Will Rhea]

Thanks Steve, I can check this also.

Cheers,

-br
Napa, CA

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:03 PM 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I recently had a super annoying click on my the titanium bike I'll be
> riding at RAGBRAI.  I reconnected the pedal with lots grease and still have
> the issue.  I didn't think the sealed bearing Shimano SPD pedals were the
> culprit.
>
> I mentioned this to a rather nice mechanic, who asked me it it was
> clicking when I was standing off the saddle, and I said no.  So we thought
> it might be the Brooks B-17 saddle I use, it being all floppy and such with
> the missing middle.  So I tightened the leather on it and the clicking
> remained.
>
> Turns out, it was the seatpost connection that was doing the clicking.
> Something about the titanium on the Thompson seatpost, or the seatpost
> connection itself.  Slathered everything up with some (mountains of) grease
> and the clicking is now gone.
>
> Steve Seelig, DC
>
> On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 1:57:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Rhea wrote:
>>
>> Reaching out in case y'all have any remedies for this phenomena...
>>
>> So many times I've used a pair of pedals for a while, and then they start
>> making a little click 1x per pedals stroke, usually when putting pressure
>> on the RH pedal. I'm pretty sure I've isolated the click to the pedals
>> themselves, throwing on a new pair and the clicking ceases.
>>
>> Pedals where I've experienced this phenomena (going back historically):
>>
>> Sealed-bearing types:
>> Thin gripsters (
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001
>> )
>> Velo Orange Sabot pedals (
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/pedals/products/grand-cru-sabot-pedals
>> )
>>
>> Traditional bearing / cone type:
>> MKS Sneaker pedals (
>> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/mks-rmx-sneaker-pedals
>> )
>> MKS Touring pedals
>>
>> I don't have access to a bench vise otherwise I would have just cleaned
>> and re-packed the loose ball ones.  I suppose I could get a new bearing set
>> for the Sabot pedals (which I'll likely try).
>>
>> Am I missing something else that could be causing this click? Open to
>> hearing any possible remedies for this, short of exorcism
>>
>> Thanks (in advance),
>>
>> -br
>>
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Noodle, Bosco, Sim Works Get Around, SOMA Gator

[Conway Bennett]

I was organizing the garage and this stuff has got to go.

The details:

44 cm Noodle WITH 10cm extension/26.0 clamp Technomic Deluxe stem (NOT Tallux) 
- $65

NEW 55 cm Bosco Bars - $68 

Sim Works Get Around Bar in silver - $75

SOMA Gator Bar in Black - $55


All prices are net to me shipped in the lower 48.

 
Fair winds,

Captain Conway
Chicago

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[RBW] WTB 650b wheels for fiance Sam H build

[Adam Leibow]

hello

as title states i wanna hear what you have for 650b wheels with the 
following criteria:

- all silver
- rim brake 
- quick release
- 135 OLD rear spacing (100 front)
- something like a dyad/synergy/atlas rim with silver or deore hubs. 
- ideally dynamo hub front
- $200 tops if no dynamo, $400 tops if dynamo
- ideally local pick up in San Francisco or East Bay (i live ocean 
beach/outer sunset)

you may text me @ three won cero nien sixz free sizx nien fiev nien

Thank you!

Adam


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[RBW] Re: Does anyone have any knobby tire suggestions for a 52 Clem H?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Och, nae apology needed, Matthew. Enjoy the ride getting to the rides! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] "Sadly, Long Shen is closing" Another loss to lugged steel frame production

[M Talley]

I wondered if anyone here knew of this or more about the circumstances of 
the closing of Long Shen?
https://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f2/fnl-531-a-52498.html
I stumbled on this info while searching for the meaning of R. 
Sachs B.I.F.I.™ . . .  YAS - Yet Another Sachsism

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[RBW] Re: Pedal click driving me batty

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I recently had a super annoying click on my the titanium bike I'll be 
riding at RAGBRAI.  I reconnected the pedal with lots grease and still have 
the issue.  I didn't think the sealed bearing Shimano SPD pedals were the 
culprit. 

I mentioned this to a rather nice mechanic, who asked me it it was clicking 
when I was standing off the saddle, and I said no.  So we thought it might 
be the Brooks B-17 saddle I use, it being all floppy and such with the 
missing middle.  So I tightened the leather on it and the clicking remained.

Turns out, it was the seatpost connection that was doing the clicking.  
Something about the titanium on the Thompson seatpost, or the seatpost 
connection itself.  Slathered everything up with some (mountains of) grease 
and the clicking is now gone.

Steve Seelig, DC

On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 1:57:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Rhea wrote:
>
> Reaching out in case y'all have any remedies for this phenomena...
>
> So many times I've used a pair of pedals for a while, and then they start 
> making a little click 1x per pedals stroke, usually when putting pressure 
> on the RH pedal. I'm pretty sure I've isolated the click to the pedals 
> themselves, throwing on a new pair and the clicking ceases.
>
> Pedals where I've experienced this phenomena (going back historically):
>
> Sealed-bearing types:
> Thin gripsters (
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001
> )
> Velo Orange Sabot pedals (
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/pedals/products/grand-cru-sabot-pedals
> )
>
> Traditional bearing / cone type:
> MKS Sneaker pedals (
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/mks-rmx-sneaker-pedals
> )
> MKS Touring pedals
>
> I don't have access to a bench vise otherwise I would have just cleaned 
> and re-packed the loose ball ones.  I suppose I could get a new bearing set 
> for the Sabot pedals (which I'll likely try).
>
> Am I missing something else that could be causing this click? Open to 
> hearing any possible remedies for this, short of exorcism
>
> Thanks (in advance),
>
> -br
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

In my experience, this is a bearing issue 100% of the time. I run Crank Bro’s 
in all my bikes, and have become adept at rebuilding them to correct this. 

–Eric N


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 10:57 AM, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> 
> 
> Reaching out in case y'all have any remedies for this phenomena...
> 
> So many times I've used a pair of pedals for a while, and then they start 
> making a little click 1x per pedals stroke, usually when putting pressure on 
> the RH pedal. I'm pretty sure I've isolated the click to the pedals 
> themselves, throwing on a new pair and the clicking ceases.
> 
> Pedals where I've experienced this phenomena (going back historically):
> 
> Sealed-bearing types:
> Thin gripsters 
> (https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001)
> Velo Orange Sabot pedals 
> (https://velo-orange.com/collections/pedals/products/grand-cru-sabot-pedals)
> 
> Traditional bearing / cone type:
> MKS Sneaker pedals 
> (https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/mks-rmx-sneaker-pedals)
> MKS Touring pedals
> 
> I don't have access to a bench vise otherwise I would have just cleaned and 
> re-packed the loose ball ones.  I suppose I could get a new bearing set for 
> the Sabot pedals (which I'll likely try).
> 
> Am I missing something else that could be causing this click? Open to hearing 
> any possible remedies for this, short of exorcism
> 
> Thanks (in advance),
> 
> -br
> 
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[RBW] Pedal click driving me batty

[Bill Rhea]

Reaching out in case y'all have any remedies for this phenomena...

So many times I've used a pair of pedals for a while, and then they start 
making a little click 1x per pedals stroke, usually when putting pressure 
on the RH pedal. I'm pretty sure I've isolated the click to the pedals 
themselves, throwing on a new pair and the clicking ceases.

Pedals where I've experienced this phenomena (going back historically):

Sealed-bearing types:
Thin gripsters (
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001
)
Velo Orange Sabot pedals (
https://velo-orange.com/collections/pedals/products/grand-cru-sabot-pedals)

Traditional bearing / cone type:
MKS Sneaker pedals (
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/pedals/products/mks-rmx-sneaker-pedals)
MKS Touring pedals

I don't have access to a bench vise otherwise I would have just cleaned and 
re-packed the loose ball ones.  I suppose I could get a new bearing set for 
the Sabot pedals (which I'll likely try).

Am I missing something else that could be causing this click? Open to 
hearing any possible remedies for this, short of exorcism

Thanks (in advance),

-br


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[RBW] Re: Servicing Silver hubs?

[David Carner]

I have a production Silver hub.  My memory is not as detailed as Jeremy's, 
but I took the hub apart to add grease to the pawls when I first received 
it. It required no special tools and Jeremy's description fits what I do 
recall. I have had no problems with the hub over approximately 3000 miles.
David

On Sunday, July 7, 2019 at 5:13:03 PM UTC-5, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Has any one serviced one of Rivendell's Silver free hubs?  I want to 
> grease the pawls to quiet things down back there (I have Phil Tenacious Oil 
> for this), but the only free hub I've worked on is a VO, which doesn't need 
> any tools.  I've figured out that the Silver hubs were made by KT, but they 
> seem to make different designs.  Do I need any special tools, other than to 
> remove the cassette?  Or is there something I should be watching out for so 
> I don't muck things up?
>
> Thanks for any help or advice,
> Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: Does anyone have any knobby tire suggestions for a 52 Clem H?

[Adam Leibow]

i have a set of WTB beeline 2.2 and WTB nano 2.1 (both 27.5/650b & wire 
bead version) for sale if either of those treads looks like it could be 
good. 

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 12:01:09 PM UTC-7, Matthew Naftis wrote:
>
> I'm travelling to Colorado in a couple of weeks, and think I may need 
> something more than the stock Kendas that have, so far, been perfectly 
> suitable for paved and gravel bike paths of Dallas.
>
> But maybe I'm wrong?  Although I've ridden bikes my whole life, putting 
> much thought into what and how I'm riding is a fairly new thing for me.
>   
> Thank you.
>

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[RBW] Re: Does anyone have any knobby tire suggestions for a 52 Clem H?

[Matthew Naftis]

Deacon Patrick,

Please don't take my delayed response to your last set of replies as a sign 
of lack of appreciation.  We were out of town visiting family over the long 
weekend and I didn't have the technological means to reply.  That being 
said, thank you very much for your insight!  You saved me hours of research 
and gave me something perfectly tailored to our capabilities.  I am 
literally counting down the days (29 days from today) until I can explore 
these trails with my family (and maybe for a few hours without them).   

Thank you,
Matt

On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 4:15:03 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Looking at Trails Illustrated maps, Breckenridge falls as a confluence of 
> three maps (108, 109, 104), so there may well be a better local map 
> solution if you don't want to buy $40 of maps. Grin. The advantage of TI's 
> maps is they give enough detail to actually navigate by them, vs. most maps 
> that are too far out to be much help.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Re: Servicing Silver hubs?

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you Jeremy, for all that detail!  

Based on my experience with the VO hub, just lubricating the pawls 
themselves and not the interface was enough to make a huge difference in 
noise level.  I'll make sure the interface stays clean.

Best regards,
Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Homer Hilsen size 46

[Elisabeth Sherwood]

Hi Drw,

Of course everyone's experience varies, but my 48cm Sam Hillborne has an 
ETT of 54cm, and even with swept-back handlebars the bike just felt too big 
to me (I'm 5'2").  We converted it to drops for my 5'8" boyfriend and he 
absolutely loves the bike -- rides it for everything.

It's great that it works for your 5'0" partner, though!

Liz 
Washington, DC



On Monday, July 8, 2019 at 12:10:13 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> Apologies if this has been mentioned before, but what about a 48cm Sam 
> Hillborne? My partner is like 5’0” and her’s fits great.

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